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Japan-Korea Undersea Tunnel

Hi NihonJoe 日本穣: Regarding your comment on the talk page concerning societal difficulties involved with the proposed tunnel: many western people, even those who have studied some world history, have scant knowledge of the occupation of Korea. Although I knew previously that Japan had occupied Korea during WWII, until I researched this tunnel article I never knew that Korea had been occupied as early as 1910. Thus it was felt necessary during article creation to have some background info on societal relations between the two countries to explain possible delays or cancellation of the project, as most Westerners wouldn't be cognizant of them.

May I ask a favour please NihonJoe? Since I don't have access to current information on new developments related to the proposed tunnel, and since there's significantly more information on the same article on the Japanese website, I'd appreciate if you could translate the updated and enhanced material from the Japanese article to the English one. Many thanks if you can help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryzilber (talk • contribs) 20:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Weekly Manga Times

Hello! Your submission of Weekly Manga Times at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —Politizer talk/contribs 05:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Weekly Manga Times

Updated DYK query On 15 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Weekly Manga Times, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 22:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Anime (date of release unknown)

I have nominated Category:Anime (date of release unknown) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Anime (year of release missing) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. —Dinoguy1000 22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Bōken Shōnen cover.jpg)

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Took care of it for you, Joe. —Dinoguy1000 17:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:46, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem. ;) —Dinoguy1000 20:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Melonbarmonster2 (talk · contribs)

Melonbarmonster2 deleted massive contents. Imo Incident[1]. Joseon Dynasty [2]. Sukjong of Joseon[3]. And added Anti-Japanese contents without Talk. Koreans in Japan[4]. Category:Zainichi Koreans[5]. So Far from the Bamboo Grove[6].

I think these his edition deserves vandalism. He is also stalking me.

His attitude deserves harassment. Please help, me.

--Bukubku (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. I refuse to get involved in this revert argument. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Manga of 1954

When is this category going to be filled? - Stepheng3 (talk) 19:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

When we create a manga article for a series begun in 1954. It's possible we already have one that just isn't yet categorized. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:40, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
In the future, I think you should create the article first, then the category. Since categories are used for navigation, having a category leads users to expect that there must be articles in it. - Stepheng3 (talk) 21:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Unless they are actually browsing categories (which is not a common thing to do for most people), I don't see an issue here. Articles are being created as quickly as possible, and this will have something in it eventually, so don't worry about it. WP:ANIME does a great job of keeping things organized. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:07, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
WP:CSD#C1 doesn't make an exemption for categories anticipated to contain pages in the future (as well it shouldn't). Please populate this category or it will risk being deleted again as C1. Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 22:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Please stop insisting on a timeline for completion. It's being populated as quickly as possible, as I've already stated. Please go do something useful rather than harass people doing the work. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
The very nature of the C1 speedy criteria is to give a timeline so empty categories can't sit around unused indefinitely. If you disagree with that, perhaps you should propose a change to the speedy deletion criteria. Until then, it is Wikipedia policy we have to abide by (I see it has now been populated, so the issue is, happily, now moot). VegaDark (talk) 03:43, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
They aren't sitting around unused indefinitely. All four of those categories were part of a much larger set which has been being filled as quickly as possible (out of over 60 cats, only those four were remaining to be populated with at least one title--pretty good, I would say). Given the many thousands of manga articles here, it takes a little bit of time to file in the categories, and it's much easier to create the set of categories first, and then fill them (it makes the process of creating the categories much easier). And yes, because of your unnecessary (because the issue was already being handled) pressure to adhere to your personal timeline (and that of Stepheng3), the cats have now been populated. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't want this to end leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth, I actually empathise with your position. The problem is that if we let one empty category stay, why not the next? It's a slippery slope to start allowing some but not others. We could say "Yeah, he's an admin, so he probably knows what he's doing, and he's probably right that it will in fact be populated in the future", but then the next guy will come along and claim that their category is also going to be populated eventually, and so on and so forth. Eventually the criteria would be degraded to "Empty categories that have been empty for 4 days, unless someone insists that the category will in fact someday be populated." I think the problems with that are obvious, and I hope that leaves you with a better understanding of why I and people like Stepheng3 try to enforce this criteria. While this category is an example of one more likely to be populated, for each one like this there are dozens of others that have been empty for very long periods of time that have only recently been deleted. Readers happening upon such categories may be confused, which is the whole central reason for this speedy criteria in the first place. Thanks again, VegaDark (talk) 05:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I understand your POV, but I think you are wrong in this case. As you can see by all the other categories surrounding the four in question here, they are being filled, some more quickly than others. It's not as if this category is all by itself with no other related categories. In fact, as it's obviously part of a series of categories (sorted by year), that makes it even more likely to be used. This is a case, IMO, where WP:IAR applies. Yes, there's a general guideline in the policy to delete unused categories, but you shouldn't turn into a mindless robot when applying these guidelines. Use some common sense. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Nihonjoe here, even policy requires common sense in its application, and this is a case where common sense suggests ignoring policy. That being said, if Joe were to tell you that the category will be filled (as he did), and a month or so from now, it was still sitting there, empty, then that would likely be a problem. —Dinoguy1000 20:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the category has been on this list of empty categories and every subsequent update (except the most recent) since the report was created on October 20th, which is quite a long time to wait. See here. This category is by no means unique as a "by year" category or as a category as part of a series. Common sense here, in fact, tends to show that this one is no different than the hundreds of other categories that appear on that list. VegaDark (talk) 03:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then. There were only ever 5 categories from this series on that list, and now there should be none as none of the cats are now empty, so please, go do something more productive with your time. If you can't see the difference between those "hundreds of other categories that appear on that list" and these five categories, then I can't help you. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

that VAIBS guy

is at it again Special:Contributions/Hasitt. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I warned him. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Advice please.

Hi 日本穣! Please take a look at this. Some of the comments don't sound calm enough. I'd like to ask for a third person's opinion, but don't know which notice board to go. Please tell me which is the most appropriate? Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 07:08, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

that anime+MGM guy again

125.160.185.8 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Please rangeblock 125.160.128.0/18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · block user · block log), as this is the second or third IP he's vandalized from on that range. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 19:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

What are the others? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
125.161.143.56 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). He's actually vandalized from quite a few other 125.16x.x.x addresses, all of which belong to different ranges. There's
both of which belong to 125.161.64.0/19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · block user · block log). Then there's
which belong too 125.161.0.0/18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · block user · block log). I recently filed a notice on WP:AN/I but only the individual addresses were blocked, not the ranges he's editing from. I'd really like some range blocks on these ranges at the very least. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 19:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
125.160.128.0/18 and 125.161.0.0/18 have been soft blocked for 6 months. This means that people can still create accounts if they wish, but they can't edit anonymously as IPs. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

He's back again. 118.137.20.167 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) this time, looks like the original 118.137.x.x range needs to be blocked again. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 19:08, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

And now at 118.137.21.56 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Looks like the range needs to be blocked again. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 01:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Please help. The second address continues to vandalize, and nobody seems to be answering my report on AIV. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 05:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
118.137.20.0/23 has been soft blocked for 6 months. This covers 118.137.20.0 — 118.137.21.255. People can still create accounts if they wish, but they can't edit anonymously as IPs. 05:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

He's back yet again. This time he hopped between multiple IP addresses every couple minutes:

Would like to request another rangeblock again. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 16:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

118.137.0.0/16 softblocked (so account creation is still allowed) for 6 months. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Anime and Manga by year category nav templates

Hey Joe, I've recently performed a complete rewrite of Template:Anime by decade category header and Template:Manga by decade category header that merges the two together, greatly simplifies much of the coding, and automatically inserts lead text and categories. Have a look at the sandbox and the discussion. 「ダイノガイ千？！」 20:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. I commented there. :) ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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Edit battle by Japanese and Korean

"Edit battle by a Japanese and Korean people" started again.[7] This topic of discussion is "In ancient Japan, Korean people was a ruler. "　Will you write your opinion? [8] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.175.255.217 (talk) 12:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of anime series by episode count

I have nominated List of anime series by episode count, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of anime series by episode count. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Remurmur (talk) 02:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Japan-sci-stub}}

Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 23:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

File:Petit_Apple_Pie_vol7_cover.jpg

I have tagged File:Petit_Apple_Pie_vol7_cover.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. Otherwise, it will be deleted in seven days. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Removal of sourcing & birth info

Hi, Nihonjoe. An editor is currently removing sourcing from the Yuko Aoki article. The source is http://i-dic.dorachan.com/, a non-commercial AV-Idol dictionary. Is this appropriate? Dekkappai (talk) 16:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Aria albums infobox

Hi,

While i understand your position on the infobox (fellowing WP:album), i should also inform you that in the long run that Aria (manga) audio franchise will eventually spin-out as a discography and should borrow a lot from WP:Discog.
We are in muddy water as neither WP:album nor WP:Discog can completely satisfy the specifics need of anime franchise related audio soundtracks including oddities likes Drama CDs & Radio CDs.
In the end don't be too surprise on how the Aria discography will spin-out, it will be a bit experimental --KrebMarkt 09:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Futaba Channel

Hi there. You were a participant in the AfD discussion for Futaba Channel, which I closed as "delete." I have decided to relist the article at AfD; the discussion is here. Your further input is welcome. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 18:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ise monogatari

Hello, I'm just a random spanish teenager who loves reading,. I've worked just a few regarding Japanese Literature but anyways, I would like to rebuild Ise Monogatari's page ( with the corresponding "adjustments" from an English native, of course). Though I haven't an impressive curriculum vitae ( I'm still on my first year of Translation & Interpretation), I may proudly say that I've played an active role on Heike Monogatari's page. Do please reply soon, please. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brisk 90 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Another Article War

TOTSE Someone keep changing the article regarding the matter of the ending of totse It's been an official statement from Jeff himself that totsean should move to http://bbs.zoklet.net/index.php (fact) But there's one guy that keep changing it and promoting his site (totse 2) (advertisement) Please solve the problem

I'm tired to keep undoing it He force me to register because you ban my IP —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymus.file (talk • contribs) 08:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Please see this page for assistance in resolving your dispute. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

History of Japan

Caspian blue is demanding to add "The ancient Japanese emperors was Korean descendant" to the history of Japan. To the best my knowleg, His insistence is not common sense of the history of Japan. I requested him to present grounds of the insistence. He said "Could you provide diffs that I insisted that "Ancient Japan was being ruled by Korean."? Many scholars claim as such though. I think I restored your blanking of "rulers of Japan seems to be Korean descendants". Anyway, don't worry. I'm preparing something to please for you. Well, here is just for a quick preview." And, he presented a lot of sources. [9] I reviewed this source one by one. His sources were not all "peer-reviewed". [10] I expected the next step of the discussion. However, he did not object. Instead, he said to me "sockpueppter","racist attack","clear harassment". [11]

Imperial House of Japan is a Japanese symbol. I think that I should carefully discuss this problem. Can you mediate him? --Pkakita (talk) 11:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

"Mediate him"? Please clarify what it is you're asking me to do. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Mechademia 3 request

Since you're listed in the Reference Library as having this: the TOC claims there's a review of Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou in the issue, and it's on the article to-do list to include it. Are you up for digesting it, either into the article itself or as ore in some userspace where I can refine out the useful nuggets? —Quasirandom (talk) 20:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Thankee. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

BTW, as an aside, while you're in the vicinity could you verify I've accurately rendered the basic info in Yokohama Kaidashi Kikō#Novel? I cobbled it together by machine translation of the citation and the Amazon listing, so am none too confident of its complete accuracy. —Quasirandom (talk) 03:45, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Anime+MGM guy redux

He's back, this time from 219.83.106.16 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Range is 219.83.106.0/23 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)). NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 06:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

He's stopped now, so let me know if he starts up again. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
He just started again, this time at Toei Animation and List of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer films. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 06:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
He's already been blocked. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

BLJOU

Please check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BLJOU . This users edits consist of IDONTLIKEIT removals and fact tagging things they don't like which they removed and that I replaced. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Yup. I've seen that. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:18, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


Sheshed

Hello Nihonjoe, I'm a wiki newbie. I watch lots of anime and read lots of manga. It's time to contribute to the literature. Please help me out by pointing me to some small mundane tasks where I can become more comfortable with wiki and the process. For example I hope I've added to this page correctly. I'll check back in a few days. Thank-you for what ever direction you can provide. Eventaully I'll get to the point where I can add my self to the the projects.

P.S. I can read kana, and recognize a few kanji.--Sheshed (talk) 00:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I recommend starting out by reading this, remembering there is useful information here, and making yourself familiar with these. It's a little bit of work, but it will help you in the long run to at least be familiar with those things. Once you're done with that, I recommend becoming familiar with both WP:MOS-JA and WP:MOS-AM as those are the most relevant Manuals of Style when editing anime and manga articles here.
Then, look at the articles listed here as those are the ones the project has noted as needing help in one way or another. Welcome! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank-you Nihonjoe.
Let me poke around the links listed and see about editing a page or two this weekend.
Sheshed (talk) 14:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
No problem. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Konpeki no Kantai

hello sir, that article is now out in the open. feel free to improve it. thank you.--Eaglestorm (talk) 10:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Which article? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Looks like a good start to me. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the comment. Hope you can help with the translation request. --Eaglestorm (talk) 16:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment

I invite no action or comment but I wonder if it might be worthwhile for you to examine what I have posted as a "comment" at User talk:Tznkai#Note on the topic bans (Caspain Blue and Sennen goroshi)? Plausibly useful? --Tenmei (talk) 22:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that topic ban. Where is the RFCU that led to it? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Caveat lector at [12] and [13]. Cui bono? --Tenmei (talk) 04:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I didn't say I was going to comment there or take any action, so there's no reason to emphasize your first sentence. I merely asked where the discussion was. I'll be glad, however, if this silly battle is put to rest. I think both of them should be banned for good from those respective topics as they have shown little self-control and no attempt at being unbiased when it comes to these things. They also tend to accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being anti-Japanese or anti-Korean (depending on which one it is). The whole situation has spiraled way out of control, IMO. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I am prepared to invest in figuring out a way to begin mitigating the problem you identify in the last two sentences. The question becomes, "How best simply to nudge a Gordian Knot of toxic issues in an arguably constructive direction?" This attempt to introduce a modest "comment" into the process was a small step in an arguably constructive direction. --Tenmei (talk) 16:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Can't help you there. I've tried many times to solve that issue, but when some or all of those involved refuse to cooperate or compromise, it make it near impossible to come to a solution. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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