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The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thank you Nihonjoe for all your help. Northernva (talk) 02:19, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Not sure what it's for, but thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:31, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Involuntary Celebacy AFD IV - The Return

Samwalton9 (talk · contribs) has already put together a list of the recommendations, and I've added a section for discussion, if you want to keep everything in one place. Not sure if three concurring closes or one joint close would be better. In any event, thanks for taking a crack at it with us. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 03:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks (2)

Thanks for your help at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems! Iceblock (talk) 21:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

No problem. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hei (Norwegian for "hi"...I posted the Iceoeople page and am wondering...

...sending this unsigned because I can't seem to do anything at all anymore on Wiki while signed in after your block. Anyhow, as I wrote to the user who originally flagged me, I'm rather impressed how quickly you spot obscure entries like mine. And my practical question was is there a way to modify what I felt was a totally bland entry to meet Wiki standards, or do you consider it invalid no matter what if I've wriiten it? Mostly curiosity, since my newspaper and self-worth won't live or die on a Wiki entry...but it's also intriguing to see what happens when a newbie gets pummeled in the "process" here. Anyhow, a PM or e-mail to <redacted> would be appreciated.

You can edit your own user talk page, so please login and post comments there. As for how we notice things like this, we have various tools which can show us things like that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

ChristineAtFreshTV

Hi Nihonjoe, I noticed that you indeffed ChristineAtFreshTV but it doesn't seem in my estimation that the username was in violation of policy. The user was previously named AtFreshTV, but it looks like they recently had a name change. ChristineAtFreshTV seems consistent with WP:ISU, which says, "However, usernames are acceptable if they contain a company or group name but are clearly intended to denote an individual person, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", "WidgetFan87", etc." Thoughts? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:53, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

You are correct. I didn't see that she had been renamed. She still needs to avoid editing articles about shows she produced. I've unblocked her. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Social justice

The page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Social justice was an AfD from February 6, 2005. Please move the current one to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Social justice (2nd nomination) and restore the deleted history of the first AfD. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

No, it was a category for deletion discussion, which didn't belong there. All that was on the page was a link to the CFD. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Sock

The first of Azurachan (talk · contribs)'s socks has showed up on Dance with Devils: 79.81.232.113 (talk · contribs) made this edit changing the spelling to their preferred version. Do you think it would be worth opening an SPI to deal with them, or should they just be blocked as they show up? G S Palmer (talk • contribs)

The article's been protected again. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:48, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

SDAJ undelete

Hi. Could you undelete Socialist German Workers Youth? As the creator of the article, I was not informed that it had been nominated for deletion, and in the edit history there are versions that by no means constitute advertisement. --Soman (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I have restored it to User:Soman/Socialist German Workers Youth, where you can work on it until it meets the requirements for being in mainspace. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Look, this was an article that suffered a weird vandalism on Dec 23, 2015. The reasonable thing to do would have been to revert the vandalism, rather than deleting the article. Checking the edit history is better than rash deletions. I didn't see any speedy template in the edit history restored, nor was there any notification of the proposal to delete it. --Soman (talk) 23:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
It was deleted as part of a group of spamming that was done by an editor (now blocked), and it appeared the article was more of the spam from that article. I undeleted it at your request. There was no "rash deletion" going on. It appeared this was part of the spamming. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:24, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

checking

I hope you didn't take offense to my comment. I assure you that none was intended. — Ched :  ?  01:13, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ched: Oh, I was totally offended. Please excuse me while I go weep quietly in the corner. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
OK .. I literally did "LOL" ... yep - I asked for that one. :) — Ched :  ?  01:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Brianhe

Closing this discussion. Please keep it all in one place. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I think you may have overvalued the rush of votes at the end, and there should have been a crat discussion--but perhaps there was one. DGG ( talk ) 02:43, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) We don't discuss how to close RfAs off-wiki, if that's what you're wondering when you say "perhaps there was one". –xenotalk 03:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Yup, we don't discuss such things off wiki. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:13, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
that's good practice. It would be even better to discuss them on wiki when they fall in the discretionary range. I'm thinking of proposing an amendment that in the discretionary range, a chat must be held. It might well lead to the same conclusion, but it gives it better acceptability. For example, the agreement of all the crats who commented in the chat on Hawkeye should satisfy anyone, whether or not they agree with the conclusion. DGG ( talk ) 07:03, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome to propose whatever you like. However, then we deal with impatient people who want it closed. In this case, there was not a consensus to promote, despite your support. If Brianhe wants to question the decision, that is perfectly acceptable, but when the person whose RfA it is hasn't even said much of anything about it, it really doesn't give you a solid foundation on which to build. You're welcome to invite all the crats to come comment on the RfA talk page where you and Ghost are complaining so much. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 09:18, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems you were unduly harsh. That the twelve year veteran was acting contrary to anything "fundamental" about Wikipedia was obviously rejected by the super-majority, would it not have been better to at least mention that in your close? Eg., Although the majority did not agree . . .. The kind of statement you made seems particularly designed to wound, if not drive that person off the project altogether. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
My comments were anything but unduly harsh (I'm assuming you are talking about my comments at the top of the RfA). I just condensed the discussion into three paragraphs to help people understand the reasoning behind the close. It would be very sad if Brianhe decided to quite after a single disappointment like this, but that decision is entirely up to him. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:23, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
You wrote: "While not specifically mentioned by anyone opposing, many of the comments in that section addressed concerns about the actions of the candidate not being in line with the fundamental principles of Wikipedia. With the large number of editors who changed from supporting to opposing this candidate, and after thoroughly reviewing the comments left by members of the community in this discussion, I must close this discussion as unsuccessful." That's extremely harsh, without noting that it was a "super" minority in light of the so called "large number". It's not the disappointment that would wound or even drive him off - it's the allegation that he is fundamentally at cross purposes to Wikipedia, for goodness sake -- an allegation which was overwhelmingly rejected. Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Multiple people expressed concerns about Brianhe caring more about getting rid of alleged COI editors than creating a neutral article. Multiple people expressed concerns with actions bordering on incivility toward alleged COI editors. Multiple people expressed concerns about a thought process and stance which did not support Wikipedia being content that "anyone can use, edit, and distribute." You may choose to discount those opinions, and it is true there were fewer of those opposing than those supporting, but there were enough expressing those concerns that I could see no consensus to promote. I have no doubt that Brianhe does everything he does here out of concern for making Wikipedia a better place. No concerns at all. My summary and reasoning expressed there was merely a reflection of the discussion, and there was no solid consensus in that discussion. I'm sorry you don't like the decision, but everything about my decision in this case was very solidly based. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Your over-lengthy re-cap is just non-responsive to what I have brought to you. I have not argued the "fewer opinions" were not enough to find no consensus (of course "no consensus" is never mentioned in your close, so that should tell you right there that your close lacked, at the least, clarity) - it is the harshness in which you chose to express yourself in your express lack of acknowledgement that, that aspect of opinion regarding Brianhe's alleged malfeasance against Wikipedia fundamentals was in the fractional minority. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
You are correct I didn't mention that in my close. For some reason, I thought I had. I have corrected that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Although, not quite all the way there, that is better. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

I did not read it as harsh. It was just a summary of the debate. What a tempest in a teapot! HighInBC 15:21, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Failing to put you in others' position and thus to not recognize what motivates those uncomfortable with the procedure does not empower you to reduce our tempest to a teapot (I was unaware of this discussion). Caballero/Historiador ⎌ 16:30, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
It is not a declaration of fact, just my opinion. I am very much empowered to give my opinion. Assign whatever weight to it you see fit. HighInBC 16:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:Analysts of Kashmir conflict

Thanks for closing Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_October_16#Category:Analysts_of_Kashmir_conflict. The proposal was actually for renaming, not deletion as stated at Category talk:Analysts of Kashmir conflict. Deletion was suggested by some, but there was no consensus to delete. IMHO the close should have then gone back to see whether the non-deletion votes supported renaming – which they did. Would you be prepared to reconsider your close? – Fayenatic London 14:35, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

There was no consensus on what needed to be done there. I suggest taking it to the appropriate talk page determining a course of action there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

When closing RfA as successful

Don't forget to send our new admins to WP:ADMINGUIDE! :) — MusikAnimal talk 18:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

It's linked from WP:ADMIN (as are a bunch of other useful pages), and I sent him there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:18, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Recent

Earlier today, you changed the close on the Brianhe RfA from "unsuccessful" to "no consensus". Shouldn't that change also be made to the Recent list of the seven most recent closes, since that's what most people will see going forward? (As I'm not an admin, I thought it would be inappropriate for me to edit the page.) Thanks, and sorry to bother you if it would have been an appropriate edit for me to make. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:35, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Xeno already took care of that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:36, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
  • re special:diff/704012863: Don't we use UTC specifically so there's no confusion over "my time" / "your time"? –xenotalk 00:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
    • I know for talk page edits we do. For that template, it doesn't list things like that, so I don't know. It was somewhere in the 5pm hour for me when I did that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
    • @Xeno: My UTC offset is -7, so it would have been just past midnight UTC. That template doesn't list the timezone information, however. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
      • Your signatures say 6 Feb, so that's why people are listing 6 Feb on the relevant pages. –xenotalk 00:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
        • To me, they say 5 Feb. Maybe we ought to change the instructions to put in ~~~~~ instead of manually entering a date. That would avoid confusion. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
          • Ahhhh- that explains it. You're using some kind of gadget to show your local time. –xenotalk 01:01, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
            • It's not even a gadget. It's just one of the preferences where you enter your local offset from UTC (the Appearance tab). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
              • Right... I remember now. I turned it off years ago and learned to live in UTC, probably for similar reasons. –xenotalk 01:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Counterfeit (Band) - Notability

Hi,

Thanks for your help, I'm pretty new to all of this wiki editing stuff. What sort of secondary sources need to be added for the article to be legitimate? I just assumed the iTunes, Kerrang! & AMBY links would be enough grounds for the article to remain.

Regards, --- Scrotestotes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrotestotes (talk • contribs) 19:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

@Scrotestotes: There needs to be some sort of claim of notability. See WP:BAND for more details. Please also review WP:RS and WP:COI. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:11, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Not really sure I understand, because it seems as though criterion 1, 2, 4 & 5 on WP:BAND have been fulfilled. The iTunes, Kerrang! & AMBY links are all credible organisations WP:RS It's pretty clear what you think if you link this as a sidenote: WP:COI, I have no stake in any part of their business, nor do I know them personally.

Clearly I'm missing something? Could you explain further?

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrotestotes (talk • contribs)

@Scrotestotes: You need to use reliable sources in order to provide verification that it meets those criteria. You can find direction on using sources here. The iTunes link is just a listing for a single. Listing on iTunes does not help establish notability. The Kerrang! post is just a list of upcoming shows, and also does nothing to establish notability. I am not familiar with AMBY, so I can't speak to whether they would be considered a reliable source per the criteria here. I suggest asking at WikiProject Music to see if they can help you fix up the article. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh! My God!

Hello Nihonjoe - Before leaving this accusation at my talk page,

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blue_Indigo&diff=703888306&oldid=702401437

and thanking me (how ironic!) for my contributions [1], wouldn't it have been wise to actually take the time to have a look at my contributions, and also at the [2] history of my talk page, which has been vandalized by a certain [3] and his colony of sockpuppets who, for a while now, has been using in his socknames "Blue Indigo" with spelling variations, and lately in a very vulgar manner. That guy has been vandalizing all the articles I work on with the result that these articles had to be protected. To get an idea, please check my contributions since last August.

Consequently, if you are an administrator, I am requesting of you to solve the problem, and find a way to keep people from signing into Wikipedia with the sole purpose of vandalizing.

Also, if a "contributor" with a name that has "Blue Indigo" or something similar in it comes & vandalizes your talk page, which is likely since that guy follows my every step, please be sure to investigate before accusing me of being that vandal using multiple accounts.

Under the circumstances, I do believe that, instead of being warned, accused and/or threatened, I should be thanked for my doggedness in my continued participation at en.wiki in spite of the conditions created since August 2015.

Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 10:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, since leaving that, I have determined that you are correct. Someone else pointed that out for you, too. I left an apology at your talk page. Even admins make mistakes sometimes. We're all human. Again, sorry for the trouble. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Nihonjoe: The whole affair is beginning to hit me as rather humorous, a comedy of errors, and all I can say is that if humans (aka administrators) make mistakes sometimes, this was a case of overshooting way beyond the target!
When I have time, I will gather a few other names Aubmn has signed & vandalized under, and which you or other administrators may want to add to that list [4]
Thank you for the apology: nothing wrong on your part.
Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Debianux

Do you believe that the page User:Debianux should be deleted? I noticed that you deleted the user's page which they were named after "Debianux" and before the name they have now. (I originally noticed that this was a broken redirect, and honestly have no other opinion about the redirect's fate.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Same question for User:Debianux/Editcounter ... the only subpage of User:Debianux. Steel1943 (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Steel1943: No, they are fine the way they are. They did not request they be deleted when they vanished. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:24, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. Just thought that they might have been overlooked since they were broken redirects prior to me correcting them. Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 18:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing them. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

NOI BAI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

Dear Nihonjoe, All of my images are not copyright. I asked the person who took the picture to let me use their pictures to put on wikipedia. I even asked the Noi Bai international airport to use their logo. I'm Vietnamese, i live in Hanoi so i'm trying to make the airport a more informative place. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finn.nguyen (talk • contribs) 08:47, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Please discuss it on the talk page of the airport. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Sock of Otwebmaster

Oakland.dan.williams, as WP:DUCK as it gets. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 00:48, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The block notice I placed on Otwebmaster's talk page states in part "You may simply create a new account", so there's no problem as far as the new account goes and being a sock. There may be WP:COI issues, though, so feel free to keep an eye on the account. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:32, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Or, if they continue vandalizing, they can be blocked for that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:36, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

ね

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is quick block on 180.191.143.176. Thank you.--Shirt58 (talk) 10:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Ms. Gemma Linas Buquiran Live At Hashtags

Are you aware that there is no policy prohibition on long usernames? The relevant policy at WP:UNCONF says "Some usernames appear problematic without fitting clearly into any of the above categories. This is often the case with confusing or extremely lengthy usernames, which are highly discouraged but which are not so inappropriate on their own as to require action". Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:00, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware. Go read my comment on ANI. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan!
Will do, thanks. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:13, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Persondata

Is it worth asking for bot assistance with cleaning this mess up? Nobody can be expected to manually revert nearly 10,000 edits. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:33, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

I raised it at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Persondata template removal, this might get overlooked otherwise. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:00, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
My bad, I should have asked T.seppelt and waited for a response before opening an AN/I. It turns out the transfer of information was already finished, so the templates can be removed at will. —Xezbeth (talk) 11:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
No problem. I wasn't aware of it either since KasparBot's summaries seem to imply the data is being transferred at the time of removal. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:36, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!

The user was blocked by Materialscientist just after you posted that - thank you for the link. Best, --Ches (talk) 21:44, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Yup, I saw that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:44, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Indeed you did - thanks once again for your advice at UAA. :-) --Ches (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Username concern re: User:Iyogiemployee

Hi Nihonjoe. I'm just wondering why you declined action against Iyogiemployee. As I understand WP:ISU, a username that refers to a post within a company/organization is considered shared use and therefore disallowed. It may be singular but it doesn't necessarily mean that only one person can occupy that position. If you could clarify this for my benefit, I would appreciate it. Thanks. --Drm310 (talk) 18:53, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Because it's singular. You are welcome to encourage them to change to an even more specific username, but this one does not violate the username policy. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:12, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Sojitz entry

Hello,

I was wondering if you would consider moving the Nichimen and Nissho Iwai history sections of the Sojitz page to separate entries. It might be more instructive to include more about Sojitz's history over the last 10 years, with the auxiliary information about its predecessor companies located on their respective pages. For example, rather than a "History" section, why not organize the description according to its different business divisions, like the Japanese page (although that information is also out of date). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 双日 (talk • contribs) 04:30, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

@双日: You should bring this up on the talk page of the article, not here. That way, any interested editor can participate in the discussion. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Revert vanishing

[5] has been blocked, can you revert the vanishing? Capitals00 (talk) 08:40, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Whether we should be doing that is in flux. We'll leave it alone for now. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:39, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Oldest nominations needing DYK reviewers

Hi, perhaps you aren't aware of the purpose of this list. It's to alert DYK reviewers to nominations that are more than a month old, and which therefore should be reviewed before ones that have been nominated in the past month. Your addition of all the nominations through the end of February pretty much negated the purpose of the list, so I deleted it. In future, please know that this is a special list which User:BlueMoonset regularly updates for us. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:17, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, Nihonjoe, Yoninah, I include only the oldest nominations needing a reviewer, limited to between 36 and 42 (I don't break in the middle of a date), to keep it from overwhelming the talk page. When I restarted the list, they tended to be over a month old, but lately they've been over three weeks old. Then, when the list is a week old and ready for archiving (or just archived), I make a new one. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
I don't see how it negates the purpose of the list (since it's just a list of links, rather than the entire discussions), but whatever. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:29, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

New contributor to the English Wikipedia

Hi Nihonjoe. Thanks for your evaluation on Template:Did you know nominations/Hyperloop pod competition!

On a somewhat related note, there is a new article on one of the pod competition teams, and the only Japanese team that made it through to phase 2 (build a pod; test it in summer 2016) of the competition. That article is at Keio Alpha. I've made a few additions to it since it was created (pretty obviously, by the leader of the Keio Alpha team; but I've not flagged the WP:COI issue with them yet).

If you'd happen to care to take a look, and maybe help mentor a new Japanese contributor to the English Wikipedia, this would be a good opportunity. The contributor is a graduate student, and can clearly write decently, but is obviously quite unfamiliar with basic Wikipedia practices, WP:V, WP:RS, citations, COI, etc. Cheers. 18:47, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

POSTSCRIPT: The creation of that article, Keio Alpha, was likely the result of a very recent email that I sent to many of the teams, at least those that I could find. That email is copied here, for transparency. You'll note, that in that email, I had specifically suggested how team members might get their info into Wikipedia, and improve the encyclopedia for all, withOUT running afoul of WP:COI. N2e (talk) 18:59, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Question on approving edits on Shinto page

Greetings Nihonjoe. I recently edited a garbled sentence on the Shinto article. [6] You seem to have reverted it along with another user's edit. Was my edit reverted in error? If not, what's wrong with it? I haven't changed the substance of the sentence in question, just the phrasing, which was ungrammatical. Best wishes, Tigercompanion25 (talk) 23:35, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Weird. For some reason, it did two reversions instead of one. It has been fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:42, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Cool. Thank you kindly for your time! Tigercompanion25 (talk) 23:43, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Aquaveo

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Picture of Eibl Eibesfeldt

Hello, im looking for a nice picture of Eibl Eibesfeldt. I found one on his wikipedia page. The image has the following description: File:Portrait Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt 01.tif Do you have any information about the right of this image? It would be great, if you can help me out. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.195.1.207 (talk) 14:04, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Not sure why you're asking me about it as I have never edited anything related to this person (as far as I know). However, all you have to do is click on the image (I linked the title in your message) and you can see the licensing information. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:10, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Sanderson edits

Hey Nihonjoe, you removed my edits on the Brandon Sanderson article for lack of references, but currently the only source to confirm my edit is in his published works. The fact (and even phrasing) is readily verifiable in one of his novellas, but has not be stated formally online yet. Is this out of bounds for edits? Heylukeatthat (talk) 23:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

@Heylukeatthat: Which novella? Which edition? Page number? If you provide that, I can check and then add the citation. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 14:47, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Mistborn: Secret History, 1st edition, page 119 of the kindle edition. It's electronic only for now. Quote: “Anyway, there was a God. Adonalsium. I don’t know if it was a force or a being, though I suspect the latter. Sixteen people, together, killed Adonalsium, ripping it apart and dividing its essence between them, becoming the first who Ascended.” Heylukeatthat (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Aha. I haven't yet read the latest two Mistborn books, so I haven't read that novella, either. I'll see what I can do. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:09, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
@Heylukeatthat: Okay, I've added it back with the reference. I didn't include a page number as that can change depending on the font size when reading the ebook. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

thanks for your interest

Thanks for signing up on our GLAM page! I'm hoping to get an edit-a-thon organized this fall at BYU. I'll try to remember to cross-post on Wikipedia:Meetup/Utah when I have a date. I noticed that you're interested in Japan. I'm thinking of starting a project to extract pictures of uma-jirushi from one of our books and put them on the commons and possibly a gallery on the Uma-jirushi page, does that sound useful? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:25, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Sounds like fun. Right now I'm deep in studying to finish up my degree, but I will have time here and there until I graduate (after which I will have a lot more free time). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:41, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Page protection templates

Please could you add the appropriate protection template when protecting a page, such as Cornish language? Doing so is helpful to editors, as the template includes links for making edit requests. I had to google how to make an edit request just to add the request for the template! Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 17:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Bots often add and remove them, so I usually don't. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:34, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Cornish language

Thanks for the ping on the subject. I've spoken with the student and they understand not to edit the article further. We're going to work through adding proposed changes on the talk page, so there's likely no further need to protect the page. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Okay. I don't see a problem with them editing the page. It's just how they were editing the page. I think they would be a fine contributor with a little guidance. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
We communicated about that and they're going to work with me to update the page after taking a short break this weekend. Thanks. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

talk of keikyu-line

Hi,I am takahiro4.Although I have ever ridden on that train everyday except holiday,you can decide what about that article at disposal.See you later.--Takahiro4 (talk) 05:46, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

About citations

Hello Nihonjoe! I am continuing to edit the Hyuga page (being careful to only state what which I can find sources for), and I have a small question. I am talking about the origin of the city's name. Apparently that goes back to the Nihon Shoki, which I obviously don't have easy access to. I did find the quote I was looking for on a different website. How do I cite a website which is just a list and simplification of info from other sources? This is the website Macnar28 (talk) 02:49, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

@Macnar28: Use the Cite web template. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
As always, thank you! Macnar28 (talk) 01:04, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Blocking Dravecky

Hi Nihonjoe, Could I ask why you blocked Dravecky?, Deceased editor-accounts never get blocked (The account could be used but it's extremely unlikely it ever would be so personally I believe it's silly to do so (and you may want to see [7] aswell)), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Actually, they often get blocked to prevent anyone from using them. It is not an uncommon practice. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Hmm...looks like they are no longer blocked. I've unblocked the account. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:08, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 19:17, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Conduit (convention) for deletion

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What do I do when I believe Twinkle has been misused?

I am asking for help. This is not for a second opinion on content or to have the content in the article. This is because I think Twinkle was misused with false summary edits. The situation is solved but I still question some things. In short what happen, I edited some nonconstructive edits that was half accurate and my edits were done in verified accuracy when I corrected them. It seems those nonconstructive edits were in the wrong place but instead of looking at the original edit it was reverted back to them and in both summaries did not fit what happen, twinkle was used both times. In the first one the summary had nothing to do with my edits. And the second one called my good faith edits vandalism with rv.

I am coming to you and asking what to do because I think both misused twinkle. Since I am a new user, I have been reading around and found out from vandalism that " Mislabelling good-faith edits as vandalism can be considered harmful." and also here: Twinkle Abuse It says "Never forget that one takes full responsibility for any action performed using Twinkle. One must understand Wikipedia policies and use this tool within these policies or risk having one's account blocked. Anti-vandalism tools, such as Twinkle, Huggle, and rollback, should not be used to undo good-faith changes unless an appropriate edit summary is used." If I knew about this sooner, I would had did something sooner. I know it could be to late now but I am hesitant, if I make other good faith edits with verifiable accuracy would it always be made into "vandalism"? I don't like that my good faith edits was revert being called "vandalism".  :/ Never foreseen this trouble of verifiable accurate edits. :/ It seems it was not really my fault because what I edited was in the wrong place and considered trivia to the article. Some of the material was removed not sure how that makes the page better. However, now if anyone reads those summaries they will think I was trying to vandalize the article I wanted to help grow and make it the best it can be.

I can explain it to you if you want me to.

Thanks for your time and telling me about the templates. I still had to figure out I had to go to a page and copy that for the template then used what you put. lol. Truthseeker1022 (talk) 00:16, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

@Truthseeker1022: I'm glad the templates helped. If you have a concern with how something was done, I suggest using the steps found here to solve the concern. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 03:41, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Hana Usagi for deletion

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't even remember creating the article, so do whatever you want. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:50, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Yumiko Shibata for deletion

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Substing archive templates

Hi Joe, re this edit, why do you prefer to subst these templates? Substing them creates horrifically ugly code, I've never encountered them being substed, and subbsting is not mentioned in the documentation at {{archive top}}. Deletion-closing templates are substed, but not regular archive closures, as far as I'm aware. Graham87 14:43, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Because there is no reason to have them not substituted when the discussion is just going to be archived. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:25, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Template:Science fiction

I put Hard and Soft science fiction in the outline section of the template rather than the subgenres section because these are not subgenres, but categories. Hard and soft science fiction define science fiction differently than the subgenres which are theme-based. And that IP editor kept putting science fantasy into the subgenres section when it's a mixed genre as it's intro clearly says.

I'm going to request semi-protection to stop that IP from always moving it around.--Taeyebaar (talk) 23:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

@Taeyebaar: It won't be granted because it doesn't happen often enough to merit it. As for the other things, it seems to be a "poe-tay-toe" / "poe-tah-toe" thing, to me. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:43, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Angel's Egg

No problem, next time let's solve it on the talk page or something then. If it wasn't clear to me, I'm sure it wasn't clear for other readers. Sorry, I didn't feel my edits were specifically erratic or anything. Thanks for finding a good source for the Japanese release date btw.Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:03, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

If you had looked at the history, you would see that I was editing it. The date was easy to find, though, so anyone could have done it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:15, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Please come by

Could you look at this please?

I'm not sure if ping works from there. --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

A complaint about the same article has also been opened at WP:AN3. What would you think about a really long period of full protection, such as two months? Thanks for any opinion. EdJohnston (talk) 04:10, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@EdJohnston: If they still aim to misbehave, then sure. They both seem to be adopting a more reasonable approach for now, so maybe something good will come of it. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Chibiusa#Requested move 29 May 2016

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Chibiusa#Requested move 29 May 2016. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Yup, I saw it at the project talk page. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:34, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Nihonjoie/Infobox Harry Potter book

User:Nihonjoie/Infobox Harry Potter book, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Nihonjoie/Infobox Harry Potter book and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Nihonjoie/Infobox Harry Potter book during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:12, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: Thank you so much for asking me about it first. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 15:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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Where Did They Film That Italy

This editor whom you blocked for their username was one of three (including an IP) who mysteriously showed up at the article once I had PROD-ed it. The IP removed the PROD and I've now nominated it for deletion. Voceditenore (talk) 05:55, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

@Voceditenore: Okay. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Utah Wiknic

You should finalize a date and location asap (pick something that works for you!), we'll be doing major publicity for this soon.--Pharos (talk) 11:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd love to, but no one is responding to my post there. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 15:15, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Just pick a date and venue that works for you, and they'll follow. If you build it...--Pharos (talk) 15:17, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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You're going about this the wrong way. If you just pick a date and location, I can help you to send out a massmessage and other things. "Pinging" isn't going to do anything, however,--Pharos (talk) 22:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
I just don't have the time right now. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:22, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
It seems like there is some interest on the page for July 23, if you have a park location and time on that day, we could publicize it ASAP.--Pharos (talk) 21:03, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
@Pharos: Date and time decided: Wasatch Front Wiknic 2016. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Takahashi River

Hi, thanks for agreeing to look at this tricky one. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:05, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Small edit to your sandbox

I made a small edit to User:Nihonjoe/sandbox to fix passing a positional parameter whose value contained an equals-sign. DMacks (talk) 19:32, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

No problem. I just blanked it since I don't need it anymore. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:41, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Jewish people

Here's my concerns on the topic of people you cite as Jewish:

  1. Just because a person's parents are Jewish it does not make them Jewish. Say one or both parents converted to Judaism from Christianity. This is why a reference is needed especially if the person is still living.
  2. Why do you consider being Jewish an ethnicity? It's a religion. You need a reliable source to call it an ethnicity. Just ask a rabbi or Clergy.
  3. Why do you consider it necessary to cite that a person is born to Jewish parents when it's irrelevant to their work? Would you say a person is born to Baptists parents? If not then you should remove Jewish parents from the name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.150.246.74 (talk) 23:00, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
@212.150.246.74: Go read the article about it. It is extremely well referenced. Stop trying to force your view on everyone else. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:54, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your reference, Nihonjoe. Now I understand and it's no big deal. I won't make any changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.150.246.123 (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
@212.150.246.123: Thank you. You are welcome to create an account. There are all kinds of benefits to having an account, including having a watchlist (to keep track of articles you are editing), a talk page that is just for you (and not for anyone else who happens to use your IP), and more privacy (your IP address can be used to find out a lot about you, including location, ISP, etc.), so it's a good thing to do. Hope to see you around. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

March Comes in like a Lion

Hello,

"Like" is a preposition, and prepositions of four letters or less aren't capitalized in a title, as per Wikipedia's rules. I'm not sure why you didn't even check before moving the article, really, but could you please move it back? Erigu (talk) 04:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello. Coming here and saying, "I'm not sure why you didn't even check before moving the article" is not friendly or conducive to a collaborative environment. Please try to use more polite language in the future when asking others to do something. You'll get a better response that way. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:00, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Apology accepted! Erigu (talk) 11:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
It wasn't an apology. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For the best user page I've seen till now. Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 14:51, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Crystal Geyser is located on the east bank of the Price River approximately 4.5 miles (7.25 km) downstream from Green River, Utah.

Nihonjoe,

I was the Division Engineer for the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad's Utah Division for 30 years before I retired in 2005. As a result I am very familiar with the Crystal Geyser as it is in close proximity to our trackage and within the realms of my former jurisdiction. The city of Green River, Utah is several miles away from the geyser as well as the Green River. I don't know if this will work, but I will send you a google maps link that describes the Crystal Geyser as being an orange colored circle within the middle of the map, the adjacent D&RGW RR tracks, and the adjacent Price River. It would have been an easy mistake the original editor would have made, however I believe it should be clarified for the sake of those interested it reading about the Crystal Geyser. Also, the map link will also describe to visitors the exact location and how to visit the cold water geyser.

Here is the Map link https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2649876,-110.3481869,527m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Thank you for your patience and Best Regards.

Hank Smith Jr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hank Smith Jr (talk • contribs) 14:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Crystal Geyser

Nihonjoe,

Please disregard my previous message concerning the Crystal Geyser. You are correct and I am wrong. The geyser I referred to in my previous letter is called the "Cold Water Geyser" and not the Crystal Geyser which are both in the same approximate vicinity, but are two different cold water geysers. The Crystal Geyser is right next to the Green River while the Cold Water Geyser is nearby the Price River. Again, thanks for you diligence in correcting my mistake and have a wonderful day.

Regards,

Hank Smith Jr Deer Ridge, Utah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hank Smith Jr (talk • contribs) 15:11, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

@Hank Smith Jr: No problem. I knew there was another one around there somewhere, but Crystal Geyser is the only one I've visited. I look forward to more contributions from you. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Bessatsu Shōnen Sunday

I know you created this article so I wanted your input, can you throw me some sources? Im looking at the Japanese article, and see next to nothing regarding this article so don't know if it would pass WP:GNG. If there are no sources to be found then would a redirect to the list of manga magazines article be okay? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:53, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

@Knowledgekid87: I've redirected it since I can't find anything in my sources that would let it be kept. I also updated the format for such entries in the List of manga magazines. I think this format will be useful, allowing a brief description for those magazines which can't have their own articles. See List of manga magazines#Bessatsu Shōnen Sunday. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 03:26, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Okay, and thank you. I will try the short descriptions out to see how it goes. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 11:52, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

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