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I Said is an article about a single but doesn't say it charted, just was released and was on a mix cd. Not sure how to check to see if it charted, but sounds like it doesn't pass. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 18:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Time 2 Move is another one. The author seems to have a habit of creating articles without sourcing them. Probably more hiding. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 01:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, sorry that I took a bit to reply - I've been rather busy this weekend. Anyway, I'm still slightly concerned about the vandalism on the page - there have been many reverted edits, but notably, many were IP addresses trying to be constructive, but making unreferenced or non-notable contributions. I've discussed it with other editors who are active in GAN, and decided to wait a few more days to see if negative vandalism continues or increases or not - if so, maybe we can semi-protect the page to fix the problem, but I'm not sure if the article passes criterion #5 at this point. Otherwise, the article looks really good, though. On a side note, I think that the article may be misinterpreting xkcd comic #485, or at least, the statement does not seem to have much to do with rickrolling itself, only Astley. Maybe it's that the computer is being rickrolled? Firebat08 (talk) 01:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying
Thanks for clarifying the category-name situation for "The" Oak Ridge Boys. --Orlady (talk) 17:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Speed
Congratulations on the speed with which you cleared the 'helpme' tags on my talk page.
The first reply suggests that only the first sentence of my query was read.
The follow-up was enigmatic. What did "weird" mean? Weird that it was moved? Weird that I objected to the move?
The suggestion to "take it to WP:MFD" seemed odd. Isn't WP:MFD for pages that one doesn't want to exists _anywhere_? Clearly, that isn't what I was after.
The page is moved back now. In what was a bad precedent, the hijacker was appeased.
Nice speed. -Ac44ck (talk) 23:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Look, I'm not trying to be uncivil, I am trying to remain civil, I just didn't appreciate the template, and I saw you rethought it. So I should be less curt. And you're right, my edit summary probably wasn't appropriate. Some days aren't the greatest, so I apologize if I offended you, I meant no foul. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Well I am sorry, and I guess the article benefits from this pointless spat, all ends well in Wikiland today. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Now I shall listen to the song on YouTube, lament our e-fisticuffs, and breathe a sigh of joy and relief, for once. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
RE:My talk page
Please do not elliminate content without asking me first.
Thanks, MHLUtalk 01:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit busy on my march to the sea, but it would be nice if you could take a look at DJ, Take Me Away and the pile of not-traditionally-notable songs in its navbox. Perhaps a list, instead?—Kww(talk) 02:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Could I persuade you to do it? I've got 500 more articles on my list of "Articles with bad charts" to visit, and then I have to build a new list of them. I'm trying for 100 a day, and that gets pretty damn tedious. I'll get to it next month if you haven't got the energy or inclination.—Kww(talk) 02:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
I headed to the library here today and found "The Encyclopedia of Popular Music" on the third floor with other reference materials. I promptly got out Book 7 and located the article on Kenny Rogers, photocopied the three needed pages (30 cents well spent IMO), and noted everything I need to reference the article in case I add to Kenny's article page itself. While leaving, I recalled you were looking for some Alabama info. I am considering heading back and finding Book 1 (which I figure it'd be in) and photocopying those pages should you want help with that article as well. I won't be able to return to the library until next week after today passes, but are there other groups or country artists for which I can provide information? Just ask and I can make a weekly/bi-weekly trip to get info, maybe spending time editing the article from the library itself instead of bringing more paper home (at the cost of a dollar to park for 48 minutes LMAO - might be better to just photocopy).
They might have the books at your library, too. They list artist discographies, too, though sometimes novelty albums may be missing - see Kenny Rogers' Short Stories album, for instance, which was not in the encyclopedia but I know came in 1985 - I have pictures of the record itself thanks to the eBay seller I got them from!
If an otter wants to help out a fellow editor, I could really use someone to archive my usertalk pages as it would take me two or three hours to figure it out. Thanks. Atlantabravz (talk) 22:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Q on formatting discographies
I am admiring your discography tables and wondering how you do that? I'm about ready to post a stub for Oh Boy Records, and have assembled the company's discography in Excel form, but really don't want to type in a zillion || and -- to make the tables nice. I think I can insert new rows in Excel with the characters needed, then post it, but thought you might have a better way? Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 04:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh well, I'll start typing. Thanks for the insight. Chuckiesdad (talk) 04:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
How did you ever come up with the comment that "Nobody ever released it as a single"? The song was released by the Everly Brothers as Cadence #1350, in 1958. The song hit the TOP 10 charts, of all things. Your proposal for deletion seems to be based on a total lack of knowledge of the details of the song's history. -- BRG (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I think when I created the article originally (this was over 2 years ago, so I'm not certain) I didn't have the chart data on it; I only had chart data prior to 1954. And in fact, I just copied the data from Mookie's comment on the deletion page, rather than check it out, assuming it was correct; I knew the song was a major hit, so I believe what he gave. -- BRG (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Moving
Time for me to learn something new. How do we go about moving pages? I went to create "Greatest Country Hits", which is a Kenny Rogers album. I loaded it up, expecting it to be a disambiguation page. Instead, a Glen Campbell album has the page owned. Can we rename it to "Greatest Country Hits (Glen Campbell album)", which will be the same title style that I use for Kenny's, and let the title page be a disambiguation? I personally find this preferable compared with just slapping a disambiguation note on Campbell's page as a user searching just the title doesn't get confused then.
The coincidence? Both albums were released in 1990. Who knew?
Reply copied from CycloneGU's talk page and retitled topic here to match.
To move a page, you click the "move" tab at the top. I moved the Glen Campbell album, you can fix the links left behind so they point to the Glen album. Then when you've done that and made the page for the Kenny album I'll make a dab for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:59, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Sure thing, I'll get right to work on that.
In the meantime, Greatest Country Hits (Kenny Rogers album) is now up and I'll get to a disambiguation page for the pair as well. I think that completes Rogers' 1990 history; I'll put in the chronology later after a couple more years are up.
That was quick. I only found one link to fix, on the discography. That's done, and the disambiguation page is there. While, according to disamb principles, there are only two uses and the page may not be needed, I will differ in that both are titles of albums, and I'm sure other albums have shared the same name over the years, making the page necessary. =)
Dab = disambiguation page. It's since been done. By the way, please use the full names of the writers in all pages you make; see WP:ALBUM for formatting information. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
You mean on each album page (such as this one)? I don't have full names, the information I have comes from AllMusic directly. Even in the linked case, I have pictures of the disc and thus don't have the full names there either. If you don't mean the album pages like the linked one, please clarify what you mean. Maybe I can get something else from AllMusic, I'll check into it. CycloneGU (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
To the reply on my page, you mean create a page for each song title and include full name info there? I haven't created any song pages yet, I've merely been linking to what's already there. Or do you mean on AllMusic? CycloneGU (talk) 19:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I get it now. =) I noticed while going through the 1999 A&E disc that, on some songs, you find only an initial, not a full name. I did find what you refer to on AllMusic. I'll see what I can do, but for now, I'm going to at least get the albums in place then I can perhaps include links for each song on each page, too.
Would linking to a page about an artist from their last name be amenable? Or is having it on the album page preferable?
Cheers for all the advice! One more question. Do we follow the same principle for compilation albums, or just studio albums? CycloneGU (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Please note that the character does get a number of references on Google News, which I have begun adding to the article. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 17:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Resilient Barnstar
Your contribution and commitment to Wikipedia has been undetering.You are a true Wikipedian and honesty Wikipedia works because of people like you Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Really sad that your RFAs have not gone through and you along with User:Wisdom89 have been really very unlucky not to be an Admin.But you like him have been undetered and your commitment has not gone down a bit even after each RFA fails and actually I see you only getting better .I have seen one wikipedian who took 15 hours for one edit and sadly left after on the wire closure.[1] Sadly this Wikipedian who used to work for 15 hours for one edit sadly is not around and his drawing where truly outstanding.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Talk About Fast Turnaround
No need to reply on my page for this one, it's a quick one.
The Kenny Rogers Singles Album is complete, names and all, and baring adding info in the future, I foresee no future edits. I have decided to go to a few compilation albums for now to get those main ones out of the way, and I'll go to the studio albums later on a single run-through, noting ones that still need info. Shockingly, there was a single track on this compilation whose composer was not on AllMusic; fortunately, an eBay seller was able to identify the composer of the song "Sail Away" as Rafe Van Hoy.
Clearly, I cannot source the info to another site, but it comes from someone who was looking right at the record as she typed it to me (I got track times too). I think album articles are one of few that can break sourcing rules (acquire the record and there is the info), but WOULD having this completed this way break Wikipedia boundaries for sourcing? I presume not since it's right on the record; I have pictures of the "Short Stories" album as I noted, and it gave me a few missing artists too. Do I just have to submit the reference as independent research and not published online, or how can I handle that?
Again, I'm keeping this page up, just reply here and I'll see it. I'll be visiting your page quite a bit in the future, I feel. =)
Did you find the music encyclopedia at the library, BTW? If not, just let me know if you ever need anything from it, I can look and update articles.
No, please do...sorry, it's getting late over here and my eyes are giving out on me :) --Eustress (talk) 05:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Flagicons (...again)
Hey, thanks for trying to help me out, but I'm not sure I completely understand your answer. Maybe I'm completely off the mark on this, but are you saying you understand WP:FLAGBIO as saying not to put flags anywhere in the infobox because, as it says, "[...] putting a German flag in his infobox, for any reason, might lead the casual reader to assume he is or was a German citizen."? The policy only says that goes for "the birth and death information in [...] an infobox". But if one assumes it goes for the entire infobox, what about flags before a person's uncontroversial and verifiable nationality? They wouldn't give anyone false assumptions, which is the rationale behind FLAGBIO. Again, I might have completely misunderstood your answer, but I can't figure out what else you could've meant...
Also, the reason I'm asking about this is because I've seen an admin removing the flags, but can't find a policy/guideline on it, and don't want to start removing them myself without being able to point back at something. I hope I'm not bothering you too much with this, especially after finding out you're (surprisingly I might add) not an admin - and hence haven't signed up for this :P Thanks again! --aktsu(t / c) 00:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
TPH is wrong - MOS specifically makes the difference between using a flag icon for nationality and place of birth/death. --Vintagekits (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem mate.--Vintagekits (talk) 16:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: The First Step
That would be just fine, but we should wait for the AfD result first, which, if the result is anything other than keep, will allow you to freely rewrite the article to be about a different subject. -- Ynhockey(Talk) 22:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Australia country peaks
I certainly will help. But it is hard to find all peaks since there is little resource (if you found one please tell me). Also some Australian artists didn't even have a page yet...... Langdon (talk) 23:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080
Hey, I'm really sorry that that took so long - I got sick last week, and between recovering and the work I had to catch up on, I didn't get any time to go on Wikipedia. Anyway, I think that the page has developed very well, and all of my concerns have been dealt with, and I have thus passed the article. Great job! Firebat08 (talk) 23:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
If you want to speedy-delete an article with an AfD template on it, just indicate this on the AfD page. Obvious speedy-delete candidates can be speedy-deleted through the AfD process, using WP:SNOWBALL as a justification, if there is no significant dissent on the AfD page. -- The Anome (talk) 18:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello again. Please don't add speedy delete tags to articles undergoing AfD. You really don't need to do it: once an AfD is under way, speedy deletion is still possible, under the WP:SNOWBALL provision. Re-adding the speedy delete template actually makes things harder for admins who are trying to speedy-close AfDs, because it makes the client-side Javascript on the deletion form give the wrong prompts. If, on the other hand, there are significant reasonable arguments in the AfD for keeping the article, it would need to go through the entire AfD process anyway, and the speedy delete template would pjust confuse the process. -- The Anome (talk) 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for sending it up to CSD. See my talk page for an interesting discussion I had about it with an admin. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: removing personal blogs from articles
Thank you for your quick response about removing personal blogs from articles. Could you please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Theserialcomma_-_Wikihounding, as the editor who threatened me originally has filed an ANI against me anyway, even though your response was clear, and even though he said if i removed the blog again, he'd file a report. I didn't do remove the blog again, and he still filed the report, so I think he's just trying to goad/harass me. it's like saying, if you step over this line, i will shoot. and then shooting regardless of whether the person stepped over the line. Theserialcomma (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Years in country music
Sure thing. Just one question: how should it be handled if a song peaked in America and Canada in different years? Eric444 (talk) 06:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I guess with a name like yours, you get used to swinging a bigger hammer than I do. If there's even the slightest grain of plausibility, I generally take these things to AFD just in case someone else can find a source.—Kww(talk) 01:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Sol Melia
I left a message for you on my talk page. OneCyclone (talk) 02:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Speedy A9
Hi, You used WP:CSD A9 for December's Keep, but it wasn't appropriate: that's for recordings only and specifically says it doesn't apply to other material. A song (widely available as sheet music etc) is not the same as a recording. See my discussion with Gogo Dodo at User_talk:PamD#Re:_December.27s_Keep. PamD (talk) 08:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I do put effort into my album entries. I always try to get both names in but was short on time and intended to go back. I'll pass on Mattea's then and go to other artists. I'm not being defensive here and appreciate your efforts to make the entries complete, as do I. Keep up the good work. Regards, Bruce. Airproofing (talk) 17:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. I've done virtually the whole Chet Atkins discography albums over the past year and do have questions here and there. If you notice anything that could be improved or clarified in the entries, let me know.Airproofing (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Re:Help
Thanks for responding, I'll try asking elsewhere. Mayank12 (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Lookit who got Gr*wp'd!
Wear it as a badge of honour, as anyone who has been the victim of move vandalism knows it simply means you're doing the right thing and the vandals are aware of that. Anyway, you deletionist pig, hope the move-prot does you well and time is still against you on the other thing yknow. Pick up the pace as me and Gorgy will keep making it add up! treeloradda 22:24, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Re Help
Thanks for response.
I found who I was looking for via his contributions on related pages. Seems he hasn't been active in two years
and won't be interested (my guess).
Still, if I google "John Reppy" I get my user page on Wikipedia........Don't fully understand....
Calamitybrook (talk) 23:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Category stuff
Hi, Thanks for taking the time to alert me to Category:Vocal trios. I also wanted to let you know that I just repositioned the top part of the closing template at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_December_8#Chaotic_articles_categories, which wound up in the preceding section because you had inserted it above the section heading, instead of right below. Btw, I would have closed it out myself, but since deletions were involved I thought it should be closed an admin. Am I wrong about that? How did they get deleted so quickly? Cgingold (talk) 00:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you!
Man, it is HARD to list stuff on AfD nowadays! More fun from MascotGuy even when he isn't creating sockpuppets...and more work for me. Anyway, thanks much for putting that speedy notice on the page. Owe ya one. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Please read my response to your !vote. It wasn't me who made G5 not apply. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Uh, you neglected to do what I say...
...so I did it for you. I removed the link to my wiki for The Powerpuff Girls on the article due to ELNO.
Wait, you knew the link wasn't any good but you added it anyway so someone else (TPH) would have to remove it and have the audacity to turn around and say "you forgot to clean up my mess but I'm not angry" when you finally remove it? Bit wp:pointy if you ask me. treeloradda 04:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
But I do have a few questions. First off, what exactly is a "copy edit"? What do I need to do to fix those that are in need of one? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 00:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Ha! :) I'm getting there. I just feel terrible that your the only one who cares about country music pages. I love country music, and am passionate about it, but sometimes I just don't know exactly what all to add to articles. Thats when I ask. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 00:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Mark L. Walberg not a game show host?
Why did you remove him from the category? 71.72.160.230 (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Normal templates like time and date. Also display your edits
Dont take this the wrong way, but Im fairly new to Wikipedia.
Could you help me format my userpage as it looks like a dumping ground
Thanks
--Reallikeunreal 17:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallikeunreal (talk • contribs)
Thanks man you are well cool
--Reallikeunreal 17:11, 11 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallikeunreal (talk • contribs)
Howdy TenPound, thanks for the note. I've added a sentence to the lead discussing the song's reception and chart performance. I wasn't sure about Country Universe, so thanks for resolving that. Kaldari (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Also added a sentence about the video to the lead, so that should cover pretty much everything in the article. Kaldari (talk) 00:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Notice of request for deletion of editor TenPoundHammer :)
TenPoundHammer, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#TenPoundHammer and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). Stwalkerster [ talk ] 21:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
RE: Review
I usually take a day or so, and expect the review by tomorrow afternoon/night, as right now I have been trying to fix stuff up over here (As noted by the fact that editing has been minimized over the past few days.) The article, from a quick look through, looks very good, and as promised, a full review will be forthcoming tomorrow! Have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 21:59, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
The article has passed! Please see the talkpage for details. Congratulations and have a nice day! CarpetCrawler (talk) 03:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Speedy delist FAs
Hi Ten, regarding your comment on speedy delist of FAs, the list of articles that haven't been reviewed, or are in the process of being reviewed, since 2006, is down to around 40 Wikipedia:Unreviewed featured articles and being whittled down quickly. people must have decided over the last couple of years that normal featured review process would be sufficient, i'm assuming that part of this is the spirit that the editors' work was promoted when inlines weren't required so a big delist would be pretty harsh. cheers, Tom B (talk) 15:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi TPH. I've added sources to this article, which might address your concerns at this AfD. Cheers, Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 17:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: MoreStream
That's been happening a lot lately, what should I do? Thanks.--Cssiitcic (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!Cssiitcic (talk) 18:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the help.Firio (talk) 19:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Take a look
The other day, I seperated Billy Ray Cyrus discography in different parts. I put singles from 1992-1999 in one, and 2000-present in another. The thing is, I did it because of:
I think I'm done creating pages! No matter what I do, they always get deleted or redirected. Everything that could happen, does happen. So, I'm done doing that because apparently I can't do them. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Joey + Rory is about the only one thats stayed. Other than that, they've all got the boot. No, it hasn't been a year yet, it's only been about 7 months or so. Well I still can't ever get images correctly uploaded and gets on my nerves! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
How'd I come up with 7? I guess it's been 4. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: TF:ROCKO RfD
I don't see it on the RfD page. Are you sure you nominated it? Besides, it's meant as a shortcut. --Dylan620ContribsSign! 03:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The interest has kind of fizzled out. There doesn't seem to be as much need, as there aren't as many articles in the middle ground - they're either OK already, or too bad off to salvage and in need of deletion. Plus my time on Wikipedia has been reduced thanks to a new job. Let me send some messages to members and see what they think. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Trouble
My toolbar isn't working, you know the one to help install tables, add footnotes, etc. How do I get it to work again, do you know? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 19:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I mean the one that's right above the page when you edit it. It includes the Bold icon, insert table icon, and the cite web icon. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I just fixed it by myself, thanks anyways. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi TenPoundHammer, could you please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JLS (X Factor Group). I feel this qualifies for a speedy closure and the article in question should be redirected to the bands semi-bio at the place specified at the AfD. I'd close it myself, but I feel a neutral user taking a look and performing the closure (if one is warrented) would be better. Cheers! JS (chat) 01:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Wha?
OK, we saw you add a sockpuppetry case for a SPA who came back under a different guise and then turned tail and removed it, why? I'm guessing it might have been my mention of the inefficiency of the SSP process but I'd like to hear your reason. treeloradda 17:21, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Heya
Heya, you can delete my page. Didn't know how to delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MynameisJelly (talk • contribs) 01:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Kurt
I actually didn't delete his user page under the auspices of WP:RTV, which is sufficiently vague that there's not always much agreement over what it does and doesn't cover, but under speedy deletion criterion U1. If he requests the deletion of any other page in his user space, I'll do that too, but as yet I don't think he has. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your help; I am still stumbling my way through. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeebleBrox6 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Another Album Referencing Question
While assisting with someone asking for album tracklist advice (I believe in passing on knowledge *LOL*), I noticed that another editor for the album in question had quoted every single track time. Is a track time something that should be quoted as a reference, or can that be omitted without removing from the standing of the article? (The one I'm currently helping with is in GA status ATM, and I'm sure they want it to be FA someday.)
Was just curious about that. CycloneGU (talk) 13:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
In the interest of keeping the conversation in one place, Cyclone's referring to "Weird Al" Yankovic wherein I cited each of the tracks' lengths. FWIW, I did so because I generally believe in citing everything that could be questioned to preclude any referencing challenges. — pd_THOR|=/\= | 22:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
You could add something at the top that says "The track listing is as follows:" followed by a singular reference to Allmusic or some other similar source that verifies the track names and lengths. That would be much simpler. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
True, and thanks, I'll keep that in mind for when we're done discussing the listing's formatting itself. Also, if you're inclined, we're discussing that album's track listing at it's discussion page; you're more than welcome to join in (Talk:"Weird Al" Yankovic (album)#tables v. numbered lists). — pd_THOR|=/\= | 22:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry for always bugging you, but this user, User:I7114080, seem to think s/he knows everything about everything. If there is a page that the user has edited before, like in the past week, and if I or anyone else changes anything, it'll be always be reverted back to his/her edit. And the thing that aggravated me the most, no edit summary is ever used to say why it's being changed back. For instance, yesterday I formatted Sugarland discography to everything new, and well guess who changed it back with no edit summary...??? Again, sorry for bugging you all the time. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 14:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
The thing is, though, everything is denoted at the bottom of the table. "—" denotes the album/single failed to chart, not released, or not certified. And there is "Some peak positions are unknown", or "Canadian chart positions are unknown from 2000-2004". EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in. I put in an edit earlier and I'm going to see what happened afterwards right now. I'm interested in whether the user quoted tried to revert MY edit, which restored some useful information you (EnDaLeCoMpLeX) put in while allowing a citation of his you'd removed to stay in. Heading there after typing the tildes here. CycloneGU (talk) 03:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism?
I don't see what I recently did that you said was vandalism. Could you please explain what I did wrong so I can avoid making that same mistake?--NumberOneDisturbedFan (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Help
When you answered my question about rating, that wasn't really an answer to the question. If you could go back and reread the question, I think you will understand why I am not completely satisfied with my request. (Say hello to Kirk for me!)
--timothymh (talk) 23:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Thx 4 answering. You dont see the rudeness, hmmm.
Did u read/look @ the wiki page. The pics is an additional source, not the sole source.
But what may we do as pink & I dont agree on the page. Thx.23:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
User trouble
User:EnDaLeCoMpLeX keeps adding dashes. I keep revert his edits because some peak positions are not found or the charts did not exist. Basically he just fill the table with dashes. But he denotes that some positions are not found. Well that means the song did chart, not fail to chart. So there should be no dashes. I don't know what to do with him. I don't think empty boxes are bad?! = = Langdon (talk) 01:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080
Help (reprise)
I understand about that part, but what I don't get is how at the top of the page it says "A stub-class article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" or something instead of "An unassessed article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia."
--timothymh (talk) 01:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Persia White part deux
Thank you for reverting the article while I was asleep. I'll figure out the best recourse for this user. PinkadelicaSay it... 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Template:Tim McGraw and Template:Faith Hill
For artists with as many hit singles as Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, I think it's a good idea to split their templates. Eric444 (talk) 13:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Alabama template
Hey... I've seen that you needed help with the template of the band Alabama, so I decided to create it..Hope you don't mind!Olliyeah (talk) 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
will be done..and I think I'll do the single template too..Olliyeah (talk) 13:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to you!
Have a very merry Christmas, and a great new year! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Regards (and Season's Greetings!) from Stwalkerster [ talk ] 21:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
A quick point
10lb, I agree wholeheartedly with your recent prods (and let me know if you ever need help), but consider if you were an editor logging into your account and saw this. That could be a bit upsetting. I know this is probably a bot assist, but it may be worth reviewing the editor notifications and in such instances adding a personalised comment to soften the blow. Eusebeus (talk) 21:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Ooops! Never mind. Good for you. Eusebeus (talk) 21:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Right now the disc is on my page but Im should move it to the perisa talk page right? Thx. 70.108.137.50 (talk) 22:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
10 lb, The refs are pics,scans,& written text of the article. When u initally intervened u left it is. So now why is that other 1 haveing a hear attack? Thx. 70.108.137.50 (talk) 22:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Your closure of Articles_for_deletion/SOLED
Why did you close the discussion after only an hour? Only me and one other had voiced their opinion. No consensus had been reached. Dubidub (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Nice u deleted ZXCVNMM, now delete zxcvnmm. Wilkos (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC).
{{helpme}}
Something seems messed up with the locator map at my article Protected areas of Kerala. Problem appeared by itself without my making any edits and I can't figure it out. Thank you.Marcus (talk) 19:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi. You seem to have much experience with music articles. I was cleaning up the dab page Rough Diamond, and it seems odd that the 2006 article Rough Diamond (album) doesn't have a corresponding article for their one-album band Rough Diamond (band) (which has notable band members though). What's the usual practise with such articles, like e.g. page moves or doing nothing? – sgeurekat•c 20:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I knew of A9 (since yesterday), but it was a weird situation. Let's see if the speedy gets accepted. Thanks for the quick reply. – sgeurekat•c 20:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I do have the mop, but I like to learn by watching what others do so that when I screw up I can point at the precedent and say but they did this too!!! :-) – sgeurekat•c 20:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, you already had my support in your last two RfAs, and it's silly that people get opposed for not waiting long enough in-between RfAs... – sgeurekat•c 21:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Little edit please?
Hello! As far as I see you and your otters are currently active and experienced in music-related edits, so I've finally decided to ask someone of your cohort to add a single line to that disambiguation page. Please see this conversation for details. Guy seems quick to revert and I'm unsure how to meet his standarts. Thanks for your time! 78.37.200.40 (talk) 23:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Schools
If you see an article about a school below the secondary level which doesn't seem to be notable, you can merge it or redirect it to the relevant school district (or locality, if there is no school district). In the case of Burger School for Students with Autism, I have commented at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burger School for Students with Autism that it should be kept since it includes the high school grades. Unless an article about a school is a hoax, it should not be deleted; mergers and redirects are more appropriate. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
The article is updated to say it is the largest public autism school in America, with a source. Granted, it's a primary source but government web sites don't have incentive to use hyperbole like a corp. site might. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 06:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
CFD closings
Hi there, TPH - First I want to let you know that I had to reposition the top close-templates on the two Dec. 17 CFDs that you just closed out. I also mentioned the same thing to you about this one. So please be more careful where you place those templates: they belong immediately under the section heading, not above it.
Also, I think you kind of jumped the gun when you closed out that CFD for Category:The Beatles people after placing a {{Category redirect}} tag on the category page. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with doing that, but I really think the CFD discussion should be allowed to run its course, to allow other editors to put their two cents in. There is, after all, a reason for the procedural rules that have been developed for CFD. Even though I'm sure that both you and Silk Tork were acting in good faith, the sequence of steps here amounts to an end run around the CFD process. So all in all I think it would be best for you to revert your own close & reopen the discussion. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 05:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow, that has to be the fastest reply I've ever gotten. Listen, I understand that you didn't think there was a problem -- that's why I took the time to explain to you why it really IS a problem. The point is, it seriously undermines the CFD process. If everybody dealt with things that way, it there would be no point in even having CFDs. Who would bother?? Cgingold (talk) 05:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas, TenPoundHammer!
If you are either a firm friend of mine, have signed my autograph book, are a member of WPTC, or are someone I simply like or admire:
Dylan620ContribsSign! is wishing you a MerryChristmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
A glass of milk, to wash down that cookie, and to promote more WikiLove!
Don't forget to put this on top of your Christmas tree...
BTW, what are the names of your otters? --Dylan620ContribsSign! 10:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
"NAC" closing
I noticed you referenced "NAC" on a closing at MfD recently. I have no problem with the close nor with you closing discussions in general and actually think you ought to be an admin but I am concerned that only regulars would have any idea what "NAC" refers to. If you could either (or both) write out the words or wikilink them (to the guidelineWP:DPR#NAC, not the essay WP:NAC), users would know that they could ask an admin to summarily undo your close rather than taking it to DRV. Thanks.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 14:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
RE: HELPME
Thanks. I couldn't remember where I saw that info. ⊥m93talk. 19:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Ten Pound - Thanks for the offer. I am Rae Earl-Johnson on wikipedia but professionally just Rae Earl. Can you change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteakTartare (talk • contribs) 21:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I hope I have written this in the right place by the way..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteakTartare (talk • contribs) 21:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I want to ask, if i will need to replace for example |article= with the articles name or if i just needs add the articles name beside like this: |article=Valery Kobelev? The Rolling Camel (talk) 23:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Please, check fast now, I have tried to do a nomination now but what is wrong? The Rolling Camel (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
No it is fixed!! i dont know how i did it but i did it now i am happy:) The Rolling Camel (talk) 00:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm in unknown territory with this one. This would be a terrible article I can imagine, with links to that god awful gossip site. *Shrug* — Realist2 16:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christmas Tree (Lady GaGa song)
How can you tell if something has had an AfD nom? Is that something you always check before nominating? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
And if I nominate something and it's been nominated before, how do I fix the AfD?ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I suspect if I used any kind of automation process I might bring all of Wikipedia to its knees. :) Perhaps after I get a handle on some of the basic stuff I will check Twinkle out. Thanks for the suggestion. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm concerned it's only a letter away from tinkle. Once renoming something what do you do? How do you fix it? ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Unusual? Quite made quite a strong case for merging or redirecting. Could you please revisit the AFD and consider altering your stance? (or at least comment on the point he makes?) - Mgm|(talk) 00:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
appreciate the quick help ... you have a good holiday Ched Davis (talk) 05:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
k ... thx again ... kinda figured it would be something easy like that ;) Ched Davis (talk) 05:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
You'd be surprised. One of these days, I'll write the article about the charity girls of the 19th and early 20th century, who were known in the slang of the time as "charity cunts". Uncle G (talk) 05:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 03:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry For My Bad Faith
According to a recent accusation, I admit that I have used a second account by the name of NumberOneDisturbedFan, and also used IP addresses for bad faith here. I know this may have given you some trouble, and I would just like to apologize before all of my accounts get permanantly banned. Please forgive me, and I'm sorry for the trouble I have caused. I swear on my life to renounce my ways only for the good faith and leave all the bad faith behind me.--Almax999 (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Relatively New To Wikipedia
I have a question about notability guidelines when it comes to articles such as this: Daniel_Louis_Rivas .. This is a prime example of many articles I have come across recently.. can you help me understand how an article such as this one, for a basically unknown actor, should possibly belong in wikipedia rather than in a film database such as IMDB? I would nominate them for deletion myself, if I knew how to, or understood the guidelines enough to know that that was in order. Cheers. (LAmusic3 (talk) 07:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC))
- It looked crazy to me, so am glad to see I am not alone! If I see future articles like that should I just let you know or what is the procedure? Thanks. (LAmusic3 (talk) 00:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC))
DYK for Tim Nichols
On 22 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tim Nichols, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Could add the content to "She's Not Cryin' Anymore"? I'm no good at that, and I think you do a good job at those. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
TenPoundHammer, here's hoping you're having a wonderful Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho(talk) 00:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Happy holidays
Thanks for making 2008 an interesting and enlightening year for me; at some point, our paths have crossed and I've found your comments amusing, helpful or thought-provoking—I'll let you guess which!
Wishing you and yours a joyous holiday season, and happiness, health and hopefulness in 2009. I trust you'll enjoy this little token, a favourite performance of Baby, it's Cold Outside, for your holiday amusement. Best, Risker (talk) 00:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Category:Introductions CFD
There wasn't much point in prolonging that, was there? I probably would have closed it out myself if I hadn't taken part in the discussion. Just one tiny detail you should fix: you stuck the top template below the first element of the CFD proper, but it needs to go right under the section heading. Happy holidays! (whatever you celebrate) Cgingold (talk) 00:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
A NobodyMy talk is wishing you a MerryChristmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Hello! I was skimming the Recent Changed page and noticed "oddly enough, Michigan has both" and honest to God, I though to myself, wonder if he's talking about Rally's and Checkers?
So I clicked on it, and sure enough you were.
I then decided to get stalkerish and view your profile page, and I read the first few lines. Well, I too am a 21 year old male from the Great State of Michigan who plays in his church band. I just wanted to shout out a hello in light of this, so hello!
Whereabouts in Michigan might you be from? East side, West side, Northern, U.P.? Good Tidings - Navarro (talk) 07:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Sara Evans' albums
It seems that user:CloversMallRat disagrees with my revisions of Sara Evans' albums. I designed the albums in the syle of the albums on the discographies of Diamond Rio and John Michael Montgomery. However this user keeps reverting the edits. Can you help me because obviously he won't listen to me. What do you think about it? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I find problems with it because of her specialty albums list... the studio albums are fine. But unlike other artists, she has a lot of special releases that can't support the "detailed" album listing as well. Besides, most country music discographies look much cleaner without the details, because they have fewer charts and they are thus shapen differently... so there's less need. Carrie Underwood discography needs it because she charts in places besides just U.S. and Canada. But there's no need for it on Sara Evans discography. CloversMallRat (talk) 22:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
It seems that it might be settled for now. Thank you. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Creating entries for Greg Hanna and Dean Tuftin is on my eventual to do list, although most of Dean Tuftin's peak positions will be missing. And no, Lisa Dames never charted in Canada. Eric444 (talk) 06:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Thats what I meant, my bad. I do agree with you on more sources, but how can you source something that can't be found? How did Diamond Rio discography get by without those? Again, I agree with the main article. It does need some work, and will take a while, but if you and I could round up a few country editors, I think it can be done. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:07, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on a few bits and pieces of it now. The only thing left to be sourced is the music videos. But, on CMT, it only has maybe 6 or 7 videos last time I looked. And on YouTube, again, not all the videos are there since he left Mercury. I'm really proud of the way it looks, and flows and all. I think it looks great! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Will do. So, have you looked? :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:19, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, the music videos are sourced now. But still not all the directors can be found. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Ha! When your right, your right. Do you think it's ready? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh shoot, I like the info big. But I guess I fix that. Oh, your not in the same time zone as me. Hmm... EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I've nominated it, if you wouldn't mind taking a look. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
LeAnn Rimes, Rascal Flatts discographies
I'm so sorry to have to bother you again with my problems. But it seems I have another problem user. However user:I7114080 keeps making a color key for certain discographies. See Rascal Flatts discography for example. I keep telling him not to do it but he keeps doing it. I just made new albums tables for LeAnn Rimes's discography (looks in the style of Sara Evans discography) and he changed it back to the way he did it, saying my idea was not good. However I told him on my edit summary that it is a requirement of discographies. Can you please tell him exactly what I said and that it is a requirement. He's ruining the format of discographies. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: "Various Artists"
"Hope" featured John Berry, Terri Clark, Vince Gill, Faith Hill, Tracy Lawrence, Little Texas, Neal McCoy, Tim McGraw, Lorrie Morgan, Marty Stuart, Travis Tritt, and Trisha Yearwood and it peaked at #57. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 05:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw your request at WT:OH and started digging. I managed to snap this photo right before eating everything. If you'd like a better picture of the beef stick, which is what the founder started with, I have a better picture of it. I hope my comments on the Talk: page prove useful and I'm trying to figure out how to cite a TV episode. I have an episode of Unwrapped that goes into a brief history of Hickory Farms. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Wrote down the info for the episode and left it at Talk:Hickory Farms. Hope they're helpful. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of E. Upton and Sons
I have nominated E. Upton and Sons, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/E. Upton and Sons (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. B. Wolterding (talk) 22:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Brad
1 in AUS is Brad and Keith (3 weeks). I have no time know.Langdon (talk) 23:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080
Happy New Year!
A cat to ease all of your troubles
Happy New Year!
Hey there, TenPoundHammer! Happy new Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
Would you happen to know if the Gary Allan single "She's So California", is the same as Adam Gregory released in 2006? I haven't been able to find an audio clip of Gregory's, but I looked on both the album pages, Living Hard, and Adam Gregory, and the songwriter's aren't the same. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Well in the music business, you never know what could happen. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Dear TenPoundHammer,
Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.
No problem. Looking at the template's talk wouldn't have helped anyway. The closer of the original discussion forgot to put a link to the discussion on the talk page, I fixed that. I also removed all the redirects from the template, it does look better now. Garion96(talk) 00:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Re:Pinky and the brain
Maybe it does and there's just a delay, I dunno. I still don't see it on WP:GAR. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 01:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Seger's discography could use some help. I'm afraid to do it myself, because I'll mess it all up and not know how to fix it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello!
Hi! I just noticed that my page regarding Pirates Online was deleted and read the discussion coming from it. I'm totally fine with the deletion and just wanted to clear this up with all users who were nominating it, so maybe if you could spread the word around! First: I didn't know you couldn't have your own personal pages with information, because I had seen other users with the same sorts of things on their personal pages (e.g. Brethren Court, etc.). Second: I wasn't aiming on threatening vandalism tags with everyone – there was a specific person, whose IP and various accounts (accused of sockpuppetry) had been personally harassing me and it was agreed between myself and a few administrators that the more he put my mainpage/talk pages, etc. up for speedy deletion, the more vandalism tags he would be given. Hence, I had posted a notice, specifically for him. I'm sure I should've been more clear about that. That is all, and thanks so much for telling me what I should've been doing, I didn't know I couldn't have my personal page on that. Regards, BlackPearl14[talkies!•contribs!] 21:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant this one? right here. I just wanted to clear things up with you! I'm actually a pretty good editor, have been on for a while, but wasn't aware is all. BlackPearl14[talkies!•contribs!] 21:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Haha, all right. Yeah I've never done that before so it was kind of a new experience ;) Thanks so much, BlackPearl14[talkies!•contribs!] 04:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your speedy response at [[2]]. What do I do now, sit and wait? Syntacticus (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Kmweber's subpages at MfD
Wouldn't be better to merge the recent Kurt Weber's MfDs in only one? I was checking the page when I saw all those MfDs flooding the page xD. Greetings, —macyes: bot 04:33, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Psst, as I said here, your nom overwrote the old MfD. I don't know how to fix it. StarM 22:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Messages from urban_dealt
It says source where the edit thing's supposed to be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.56.45 (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Which means? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.56.45 (talk) 23:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. You've been helpful. I see now that Wikipedia doesn't include half as much crap as many people say, especially if their new article criteria are so tough. --70.48.56.45 (talk) 00:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
(Note: All of these edits were made by User:Urban dealt signed out)
Flub!
A year after you started the article, and here I am having finally found it. I have to thank you, because I had been trying to figure out the name of this show for years. I had only vague memories of a couple aliens throwing a birthday party for "Miss Boomdeeyay" - who that was, other than their boss, I couldn't remember. Nor could I remember who they were. Thanks. I've finally found my answer. Pw33n (talk) 09:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for you all your edit help
I'm up for nominating you as an admin when you're next ready to go for it.
Just let me know at the time.Astral highway (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
K50 Dude's Barnstar to YOU!
The Original Barnstar
I see you everywhere and you do great work. You deserve this barnstar for all it! K50DudeROCKS! 20:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Only 6?
You otter get anotter otter. OK, I'm otter here.
PS - I promise notter do it again, just had to.
...
OK seriously, I enjoyed the otters. Do you really have 6? That a lotter! *drat it just slipped out*.sinneed (talk) 20:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
That was a punishing respunse, upun my word. It was otterly awful. Heh.sinneed (talk) 21:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't mean to badger you, but I wanted to second Sinneed's comment on noticing you beavering away. It's fur certain that you're doing a good job. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I hope he doesn't get furious about these puns. Maybe we should stop beaver he gets mad. ;0)~ sinneed (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
You'll just have to do botter. *blink*sinneed (talk) 21:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
This happens a lot to you, doesn't it? Bad otter puns everywhere. treeloradda 01:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
...so...hard...must...not...pun! sinneed (talk) 03:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
OT - otters - OK, no puns, but... an unreasonably large number of years ago, we went to the White River near the Bull Shoals dam. There was a (to me) largish group of otters there, with burrows in a cut bank. I spent HOURS watching them play. One would be "it" and run into the burrows. The others would sit on shore below, and watch for the "it" otter to stick a head out. When it did they would ... well... chitter? Chirp? Whatever it is you call it when Otters "speak", and then it would duck back in, to appear at some other hole. They played this game a lot. When the "it" otter came out, they would roll around and tussle, then either go play some other game (slide down the bank was popular), or another otter would go in. Sometimes they would storm the tunnels and drive out the "it" otter. They were great. sinneed (talk) 03:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Valerie Burns
I undid a couple of those speedies. This is one of those frustrating editors that mixes the occasional valid article in with a series of hoaxes.—Kww(talk) 21:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Should Adult Swim task force cover anime and off-network programming?
There's a dispute over including the CN project banner on anime pages, because the CN project doesn't cover anime, and the AS taskforce would have the same scope. I'm inviting members of the project to discuss whether the scope should be changed. - The New Age Retro Hippieused Ruler!Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
You've uploaded File:Logo-value-city.gif, and indicated that it's used under Wikipedia's rules for non-free images. However, it's not presently used in any articles. Wikipedia policy requires that non-free images be either used or deleted, so if this image isn't used in an article in the next week, it will be deleted.
I can't find any sources either, the only Google hits I was getting was the Wikipedia page for the album the song is on. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 01:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
1-6-08
I meant when you add a template, it automatically categorizes it. But thanks for the help of categorizing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MHLU (talk • contribs) 17:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Michael Flanagan (former Minister)
Many thanks for correcting the problem with the AfD, much appreciated. What was the problem out of interest? PasteTalk 18:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Never could type! Thanks again. PasteTalk 18:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
List O'Malls
I didn't say it's unverifiable, please re-read my comments. It's just not maintainable - the category serves the purpose just fine. And, of course, there is the definitional problem of "malls" which range from the Mall of America type, to strip malls, to "antique malls", to the piece of gov't acreage adjacent to the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
You say it's manintainable, I'll take your word for it. If it's contents - other than by some transient vandalism - differ from the category's (which if maintainable, would never really happen) will you consent to its deletion? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
RfA
Hi! Would you be interested in nominating me for an RfA. I left you a message a couple months ago and since then have gotten involved in vandal-fighting and did some XfD's and GA nominations. I think I'm ready. Would you be interested? The reply you made on my talkpage could be found here here. Thanks!!--Cssiitcic (talk) 22:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll be back in April. Sorry for bothering you.--Cssiitcic (talk) 22:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
AUS Country
Articles on Australian country artists are definitely lacking, but I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm not familiar with any of the artists that I7114080 added to 2009 in country music. Eric444 (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to the Australian country chart. I'll update it every week when I update the Canadian charts (if it hasn't already been done). Eric444 (talk) 12:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Otters!
Hello, TenPoundHammer.
I must say, I was greatly amused when, on the "1,000 Things Not to Write Your Article About" page, I read that "TenPoundHammer (and his otters)" had made contributions. I laughed heartily.
I'd like to know, what do you feed your otters to make them happy? ZackTuren (talk) 16:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Heh heh, scales, eh? Interesting. I have two birds, so the feathers sometimes get in the way... ZackTuren (talk) 16:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I kind of figured. Not to mention Wikipedia has entire articles on the fictional Wiki-roaming animals. Dragons included. Although I do actually have two birds. Cockatiels. Gotta love 'em. :-P ZackTuren (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Pop 100
I've also noticed country songs are charting fairly low on the Hot 100. Taylor is about the only country artist charting on the Pop 100, but I don't exactly consider her country anymore, so it's all good. I agree, I do think it should stay, just because they either can't chart or their just not charting, doesn't mean to remove it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
You're going to be the death of me... just so you know, I've never helped expand an article before, so any tips would be helpful. I did some extensive digging for sources of Anderson's earlier years, since that would seem to be more difficult to find verifiability for.
The issue date is every Saturday. New chart come in online every Wednesday at [3]. Langdon (talk) 01:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)i7114080
Closing TFDs
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Backstory: I strongly suspect user urbanfunkmaster was Morgan Khan himself. I base this view on the fact that on his edits on articles about himself (Urbanfunkmaster created the article Morgan Khan), he forgot not to repeatedly use first-person plural ('we' did this... 'we' did that...)), and I received a message which indicated that MK had admitted to his use of the username in another forum. As he is Tigriss's promoter and possibly manager, then his POV is up the spout. The two third-party online references quoted are known here in the UK not to be at all objective - especially the entertainment pages of the Daily Mail - they print whatever plugs they are sent.
Article is marketing hype and subject is non-notable IMHO. Accordingly, I have listed the article for nomination again.
By the way - I noticed your impressive SHA hash, and am interested in how the committed identity system works, but I didn't gain much knowledge of the practical application of the system from the links. Centrepull (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The contemporary name for the label was generally StreetSounds (one word)
There is little of relevance on the page aside from the ridiculously long discography
What is on the page is mainly blatant advertising, marketing and promotion, and links to more promotional material
Rather than rewrite the article, I have created another [here]
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Centrepull (talk) 13:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah.
Thanks for the heads up. ₰imonKSK 21:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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I added sources showing coverage and have remarked such at the AfD. Further, User:PC78 and I merged all the pertinent informations from the 14 satellite articles into the one (now sourced) master article. It now seems worthy of Wiki. Schmidt,MICHAEL Q. 18:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
BRC discography...again
Can you format the references using that cite web thing, please? I'm not familiar with that. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough. I haven't really felt like doing anything large or major for a few days now, myself. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Emilio
I got your message a while back about improving the article on Emilio. Here are a couple of tidbits that can possibly be added:
[4][5] and [6] The first two links mention that it was his first Latin grammy win, but also say that he won a mainstream grammy in 2002 with another album. The final link just talks about a setback in his recovery, but not sure how to word it in the article if it even needs to be there. Atlantabravz (talk) 18:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Subpage deletion
Hello 10 lb (4.5 kg) hammer (and affiliated otters). Thanks for the tip.--Jeffro77 (talk) 00:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, how are the otters? :) Much as I love WP:HAMMER I don't think it applies to this case, see my comment there. Thanks. the wub"?!" 12:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
(Preamble: if you split this by replying on my talkpage, you will be hurt as I'm forever watching your talkpage and won't miss your reply) I'd like your input on Pinocchio in popular culture, yeah it's another 'in popular culutre' article with a bottomless pit of possible examples and terrible prose but that's not simply what concerns me. What concerns me is just how the maintenance tags happen to predate the creation date of the article by a good few months and were included upon creation. I'm thinking a speedy deletion but nothing in logs and nothing in the AfD archives so what do you think? Recreated "content" which would still get deleted under an AfD? I'm fairly sure I will be putting it up for AfD, just need your filthy deletionst opinion of it. treeloradda 05:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd say just afd it. Most likely the tags that predate the article were the result of someone copy-pasting the tag from elsewhere and forgetting to change the date. I've seen it happen before. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 01:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Nah, you do it. I have no real rationale for deletion in my noodle and people expect this of you. treeloradda 02:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Didn't figure you were going to nom there. Anyway it seems like a keeper to me which is almost odd but it feels like as if it seems to be inheriting notability from the subject. Huh, you'd figure that because the article was little more than a overgrown cruft section it'd be deletable but no, apparently not. Lesson here, some cruft can be deleted but some can be kept even if it's Wikipedia's Japanese knotweed, sources are so easy to find that people forget to bother and add any old junk. treeloradda 02:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Consensus was speedy delete, same day. Makes one wonder how on earth it survived the first nomination, but your effort was not wasted - it made me aware, so that I could play a part. Thanks for flagging a disgraceful page masquerading as information. Centrepull (talk) 06:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Big & Rich
Found some free pictures on Flickr. Nothing great, but here is one of the better ones: [7] If you want to, you can upload something now - or wait a while and I will get around to it eventually. -Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Quit adding inappropriate warnings in my mailbox. Don't you realize that you're not an Administrator?!? And may you please stop deleting sorced triva which you claim the triva is "unsoured". It is considerd Page Blanking Vandalism. God bless. 68.34.4.143 (talk) 15:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
After looking at the article more closely, I decided to delist it anyway. Apologies if I trod on your toes. Geometry guy 22:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
IP stupidness
Okay, so pardon my French, but this IP is pissing me off! On Kevin Rudolf's singles table, apparently s/he thinks that "Let It Rock" has gone "double platinum", but I posted a source from the RIAA database showing "PLATINUM". And the dude said that my source was outdated. I'm pretty sure it's not. Oh, and read his edit summary for the last edit. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I need help archiving again? I can't seem to figure it out...I'm retarded I guess. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Truth redirect
Please note that according to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(books), "Book titles, like names of other works, are exempt from "lowercase second and subsequent words"." Additionally Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(capitalization) states that words in titles of books are capitalized, except for a few stated parts of speech that do not include pronouns.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
User:Archola
Just a short note to say that Archola hasn't been very well and is recovering from brain surgery (lung cancer spread to his brain). Information is from his talk page. I'm sure he'll be back as soon as possible. Kathleen.wright5 09:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I would like to nominate you for RFA (deja vu). Please let me know on my talk page if you want another RFA. Jonathan321(talk) 01:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Copied from User talk:TerriersFan:
I think you missed the point of the RFD. "Country Tracks" is misleading since RPM, a Canadian magazine, actually did have a chart called Country Tracks. Therefore, I've retarged the redirect to RPM (magazine). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Please don't assume that I am not capable of understanding a discussion. Your arguments were considered but did not find acceptance at RFD. I have therefore restored the agreed target. If not happy, the way forward is to take it to WP:DRV. TerriersFan (talk) 17:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Kid Pix article
Hi, I saw you had tagged the Kid Pix article as being written as an advertisement, I was wondering if there was anything specific you wanted improved since it didn't seem too advertisement-y to me. Might there be a general reference page as to how to go about correcting these sorts of article? I tried the page for the advert tag but no luck. Thanks! Banjaloupe (talk) 18:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Thoughts
Hi, This was a GA review for one of the Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2008 articles: Talk:Osteitis fibrosa cystica/GA1. I was contemplating a response to the GA review and scanned the editor/reviewers talk pages. I may be way off here ... but are you perhaps a mentor of sorts? A bit cryptic I guess. But in summary: a) are you familar with the reviewer b) if so is there any reason to question the review itself or show some restraint and/or tact with this individual or c) you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about! --JimmyButler (talk) 01:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (File:Ismfofalbum.jpg)
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Hello
You are really nice!Thanks for all the help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikitotalmesser3 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Main pic
Howdy! I started a topic on Talk:Billy Ray Cyrus about adding a new picture from this year. But as you well know, I'm not the best at that. I did, however, find a great pic on Cyrus' website of him and Miley performing at the Kid's Inagural Eventshere. Maybe you could help? :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 17:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
The user has reverted your close of his help request, stating you did not give him an answer. the sock report on him is open now, so he won't be around much longer, but no need to clog helpdesk up, either. ThuranX (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: User:Oldpeoplegodumb42
Re your message: So I see. Not very creative on the insults, which adds to my statement about being bored students. I removed the comments from the MfD as there is no place for personal attacks like that. If they continue ranting, they probably are headed for a block. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Re your message: Oooh.... show's over for him! Roll the credits! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Courtesy notice
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I support Oldpeoplegodumb42
I have no idea why you dislike this person's page (Oldpeoplegodumb42). It's not harming anyone is it? Besides, if you took the time to find that person's page and read the story then I'm sorry but you have no life. Why do you care so much about what they wrote? At least they didn't write about their life story, now that is a waste of time to read about about.
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I have made some changes to American Idol Hot 100 singles and since you voted Delete in the AfD, I would appreciate you looking at the article and telling me what you think. Aspects (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
...apparently had his own show. Regarding the DVD release, Filip Vukcevic of IGN writes, "Thirteen years later and a droll skit featuring Mr. Skullhead...is still worth a chuckle."[1] Tyler Shainline contends that "Some of the best characters were the ones that never got the chance to be overused, like Mr.Skullhead, a mute skeleton whose clips were narrated by Motel 6 spokesman Tom Bodett..."[2] What these sources demonstrate is that in the first case, the character has longevity or continued relevance to the reviewer. In the second case, the character is described as among "the best" from the series which is a measure of notability. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Keith Whitley
TPH,
I noticed that you added a "refimprove" and "Citations missing" tag and changed the birth year to 1955.
I left 1zackman a note on his talk page that I changed it back to 1955, and left him references.
Now, my contributions so far only involve his death, birth year and full name, and his family.
If you can go to the article and see where more references are needed and maybe adjust your taglettes accordingly it might help in cleaning up that article.
My sources (for BIRTH year; I added 11 sources for the other material):
Whitburn, Joel (2006). - The Billboard Book of Top 40 Country Hits. - Second Edition. - New York: Billboard Books. - p.382. - ISBN9780823082919.
Stambler, Irwin, and Grelun Landon (2000). - Country Music: The Encyclopedia. - New York: St. Martin's Press. - p.533. - ISBN9780312264871.
Carlin, Richard (2003). - Country Music: A Biographical Dictionary. - New York: Routledge - p.427. - ISBN9780415938020.
Larkin, Colin (1995). - The Guinness Encyclopedia of Popular Music. - New York: Stockton Press - P.4462. - ISBN9780851126623.
Stanton, Scott (2003). - The Tombstone Tourist: Musicians. - New York: Pocket Books. - p.395. - ISBN9780743463300. — (It has a photo of his marker and the year 1955 is one the marker.)
Hicks, Jack. - "Singer Keith Whitley's Memory Alive Through Songs, Love in Home Town". - The Kentucky Post. - September 25, 1991.
"Country Music Star Keith Whitley Dead at 33". - Lexington Herald-Leader. - May 10, 1989.
Hurst, Jack. - "Whitley's Last Days". - Chicago Tribune. - May 14, 1989.
"Alcohol Kills Country Singer Keith Whitley". - United Press International. - (c/o The San Francisco Chronicle). - May 10, 1989.
Keith Whitley at Find A Grave — (It has a photo of his marker and the year 1955 is one the marker.)
Can you prove that "Till We Ain't Strangers Anymore" is a single? Not From the chart movement. That doesn't tell you anything. Although the song has a video, it doesn't necessary become a single. It only reach #47. It is low. Also some songs stayed on chart really long. Thanks. Langdon (talk) 06:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
"which means it was shipped to radio as a digital single". I don't understand what you meant. I believe that "Digital" means the song is a digital download-able song. That doesn't mean the song automatically become a single. For example, all tracks from Taylor Swift's Fearless album are all download-able.(here) Also, the song could reach #23 on Bubbling Under Hot 100 in July just because it is a download-able song. I still don't see that "Till" song is a single. Langdon (talk) 23:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
You know what, the CD single is not sold in U.S. or Canada, so it is not a prove. Let's say the second article is correct. How do you know that it was an album cut before? There is only one week gap, and I don't think the position before that is unsolicited airplay. Langdon (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
You're right. The country positions are all offical. That's what I thought. Thanks!! Langdon (talk) 23:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
AFD redlinks
Something I tend to do is to preview the article with the subst:afd1 macro in it, do the rest of the work, and then do the save. Otherwise, the AFD notice frequently gets stuck as a redlink. I do a lot of null-edits to articles being deleted just to get the redlink to go away, like the one you just created for the MYX charts. You missed one, BTW, so I added it.—Kww(talk) 18:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I did what I could, but Allmusic wasn't a lot of help. Eric444 (talk) 16:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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Warren Hill
Hi, just thought i'd say I have disambiguated Warren Hill to Warren Hill (musician). Warren Hill is also the name of Warren Hill (HM Prison), a prison for male juveniles in Suffolk, England. I have updated all wikilinks to the new Warren Hill (musican) article. Just thought i'd let you know, as you created this artice in the first place. Cheers guv'nor Bleaney (talk) 00:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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Seeking experienced-user help
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I've only been to that mall a few times in my travels and have never lived in the Burlington area so I have no idea of what was there before McGregor's. --Iowahwyman (talk) 23:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Deana Carter
It is notable, I can add the source CloversMallRat (talk) 20:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Videos
CMT Canada used to have their entire music video library listed on their website. It's still available through the Internet Archive Wayback Machine. Eric444 (talk) 03:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
AfD nomination of List of minor characters in Peanuts
...and the request for a speedy, please look at the article again--the version you looked at, which showed up in AfD, was fiction put in there by a vandal. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I read you're letter on User talk:C.Fred and I thought about it. Is it that you don't like me? Do you remember when I was IP 68.34.4.143? You were deleting triva and you keap accusing me becuse of WP:Triva. Let me know when you tell somebody else about my faults. God bless. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Retail wiki
Nope, the guy/gal who started it came by finally after 6 months absence n I think said they were gonna start workin on it soon.. and 1 other anonymous person added a mall to it, but thats all. You should contribute! =) CloversMallRat (talk) 03:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Sure =D (S)he posted the link on Labelscar.com when they got the idea, but few people picked up on it. How do you propose to get more people to it? CloversMallRat (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is Adult Comtemporary chart more notable than Mainstream Top 40 and Adult Top 40 charts? They are all pop charts, so what's the biggest reason for keeping the AC chart but nit the other two?
I have recently edited Kings of Leon discography. I have cleaned up, removed a lot of unneeded things, and rearranged. the page after my edits However, User:Kiac keep reverting my edits, and say it is wrong. He listed many mistakes I made in my talk page. The main point is, Kiac insists that the certification and chart positions must be in the same table. He says that we must follow the samples in Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style. Do we have to follow? Are my edits okay?
Is acharts.us a reliable source? I think it is. However, it is not original. I use that in Kings of Leon discography to replace about 12 sources because those 12 sources are all covered under acharts.us. Is that okay?
by Langdon (talk) 00:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
For #1, you did not tell me why AC is more notable. I have seen that page, and I don't think the reason is good. All those three are pop charts. Also, I think if Adult Top 40 should sometimes be kept, because some songs only charted on that chart. Langdon (talk) 06:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
I resent your accusations that I would stoop to such a stance, likening me to some troll. I've been a trusted editor (for the most part, no one's perfect) for a couple of years now. And again, if you'll take a closer look at my AfD, I made a point of resolving a middle ground, suggesting a merge with Penis. Not to mention, being bold is sometimes the best way to go and that's exactly what I did.
--AmaraielSend Message 19:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your apology. I probably should have done merge first, because now trying to do a merge would seem suspicious. Pointy, maybe. But without cause, absolutely not. I'll grant that it may have encyclopaedic material, but It really probably doesn't deserve it's own article. --AmaraielSend Message 19:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Dale McBride
I see that that page is create-protected, but here's a site I found with enough info on him to be article-worthy. [10]Daniel Christensen (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Lyrics
What's wrong with having a link to the lyrics of a song? Daniel Christensen (talk) 06:38, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
user:Rowdy the Ant
I'm willing to write a lot of it off as n00bism, except for the conduct at the rollback request. I told him that I was declining the request, and his response was not exactly a polite "Okay, what do I do to get the privileges?"
I think the best approach would be to get him a mentor/have somebody adopt him and get him acquainted to policy. I can't make the time commitment, or I'd do it myself - plus he might not be receptive to me after the rollback issue.
I think his heart's in the right place (though I'll disclaim opinion on the non-free images right now); he just needs to be nudged toward the guidelines and gotten on track. —C.Fred (talk) 22:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:WHAT?!? ADOPT ME?! Please tell me whats going on here! Rowdy the Ant (talk) 04:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Never Mind. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 02:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry if you had difficulty reading my point as I was highly affected emotionally. But please take a look into the matter and track down the user contributions of User:Rjecina. You will see that he/she is violating NPOV policy by not letting one of the competing viewpoints exist on Wikipedia regarding the Pacta Conventa and Hungarian-Croatian relations. He/She does it based on pure nationalistic feeling and abuses his/her admin rights by doing so. He deletes several edits of various Wikipedian Users that attempt to address WP:NPOV#Balance and "do not hide the facts"
See Crotaia, Croatia in the union with Hungary, Pacta Conventa etc and their relevant talk pages, especially for Pacta Conventa.--Bizso (talk) 00:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to say here, but I do know that {{helpme}} was not the right way to go. You've been blocked multiple times for gross incivility, and this just seems like more of the same. The material that Rjecina added looks neutral to me, and I don't see any policies being violated by that user. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 01:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't been blocked once! There was one instance of incivility when I saw that in this matter one viewpoint is being censored. I wrote that Wikipedia is unreliable!
I have been contributing for 1 month approximately and added an entire section for treaty of trainon and did tons of other edits and not just copy edit, but I mean content edits. So I wouldn't say that I am a vandal.
What is happening here is that this is a highly sensitive issue. It concerns whether the Croatian people were independent for 9 centuries or were part of the Kingdom of Hungary as a province. Understandably, the Croatian people and editors on Wikpedia support the formal view and includ it in every possible article in Wikipedia. However this fact is still disputed among historians today so it is undecided even on academic levels, whether that Croatians were independent or not for 9 centuries. Therefore, what they do is omit the compteting viewpoint and mention the "independent" version everywhere. If someone, like me and other previous users for example user:Torokko, attempt to draw attention to the fact that the validity of the documnet that defined the Hungarian-Croatian relations as "equal" is disputed, the Croatian editors and admins simply remove it and discard it. Even if there are references to relaible, verifiable english sources, they delete them. They are effectively censoring Wikipedia on this matter due to patriotic feelings for their recently independent country. This is what is happening. See the talk page of Croatia/ Congratutalons! and the recent ones--Bizso (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread something on your talk page and didn't think to check your block log (which for the record is clean). I haven't seen any sourced information being deleted from the article; can you provide a diff? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 01:20, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, most of the sources you're using are things like NNDB that aren't reliable for the most part. Furthermore, some of the other changes you made didn't have sources (like the population). This edit in particular changed numbers without a source. I'm sorry, but I still think that the admin is acting properly as you're not properly citing sources, or what you're citing isn't a reliable source. If you have concerns with the sources, take it up with the admin or on the talk page, but I'll tell you right away that NNDB can't be used. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Maybe you need to check interesting discovery of another user which is part of this discussion ? [18]--Rjecina (talk) 02:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for accusing me again of being someone else. If you admitted that there was some interesting material in the talk page history then why did it have to be removed in the first place? After all, the talk page is for the Discussion of the topic isn't it? And indeed, what was censored had valuable material and sourced reference that was clearly relevant to the topic. The reason I found it is because I noticed that although this matter is dipsuted, it isn't mentioned in the talk page everywhere. So I checked the page history and that proved my doubts right...--Bizso (talk) 03:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
In my thinking case is too weak for checkuser. If you look checkuser reports it is possible to see that everybody on talk page is banned (2 users:Washington or Belgrade IP), but in my thinking this is weak case (only 1 talk page)--Rjecina (talk) 03:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
[19]In this edit the 1097/1102 is disputed, the 1526 is not. The proper date is 1918. That's why I added a Citation needed template for that, which he deleted[20] (The first period of personal union between Croatia and Hungary ended[citation needed] in 1526)
Also it was him who changed the population, not me!
Are the sources that He uses more reliable? Please take a look at this and look for the sources in the article itself:
For the first part, I only readded what had been previously removed. [21] "About the non-existent Kingdom of Croatia"
Then I added more references. [22]"Croatia-Slavonia in the Kingdom of Hungary"
Then both the readded comments and the sources I provided have been deleted.
Are the sources that He uses and that were left untouched, more reliable tha the ones he has removed?[23] untouched sources under "Hungaro-Croatian reign"
The two competing viewpoints are/were referenced under "About the non-existent Kingdom of Croatia","Croatia-Slavonia in the Kingdom of Hungary" on the one hand and "Hungaro-Croatian reign" on the other. Now, only one of the viewpoints is represented, just like before. --Bizso (talk) 02:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Nice to see you Rjecina here! Are you tracking me? :)--Bizso (talk) 02:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
After this message and without any other information I must look right place for my defense arguments :)--Rjecina (talk) 03:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
This Rjecina is actually Barry Marjanovich - earlier well-known as a spammer on google newsgroups.--Indexheavy000 (talk) 22:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to tell you that the nominator, TheFarix, has not withdrawn their nomination. I withdrew it so I can look at the situation further. If you are aware of this I'm sorry. ~ItzjustdramaC? 00:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Non-admin closure in RFD
Hiya! :) I realise that very few people hang around RFD but do please be careful when doing a non-admin closure. Your NAC of Food channel --> Food network, as can be seen here screwed up the formating and preventing discussion of Heathens for Progess --> Neopaganism in the United Kingdom. I have fixed it for you as can be seen here. (Don't fret too much, I've screwed up NACs before too!:-) )Cheers! :-) fr33kman-s- 03:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
For some reason, Hammer time! kept ringing in my head as I was preparing the AfD... and I never cared for the MC's recordings (I'll take the Rick James original every time...). This one's for you. B.Wind (talk) 04:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
M.C. Brown Shoes
What happened with M.C. Brown Shoes? It seems that tags were placed for speedy deletion (both on the article and on a contributor's talk page), but no tags were placed for the RfD (not by you, at least), meaning that there is now an open RfD for a non-existent page. BrianJasonDrake 08:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Compilation albums
By the way, the "Compilations" section of my profile contains a list of other articles I started for compilation albums. You are welcome to take a look at those to see if they meet requirements. While I am not sure if deletions impact my contributions or whatever, I admit that I started some of those articles before I was aware of notability requirements and references, etc. -Another Believer (talk) 19:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you just give me some time to work on them to see if they can meet requirements? I promise to follow up with you on this issue. I have no problems with deletions, but I'd like to see if they can be "saved" first. --Another Believer(Talk) 20:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 01:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Album cover
You could be right. I will check the copyright rules again, but I don't have time now as I'm in the middle of a DYK update. Give me a few minutes. Gatoclass (talk) 06:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it looks as though you are correct, I have removed the image. Gatoclass (talk) 06:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Might as well, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
User:91.153.136.16
Hi. Those links struck me as spammy as well. Many of the same pages also have links to nyc-architecture.com. Turns out there are several hundred ELs to this site from English WP. As I wrote to Mentifisto, nyc-architecture appears to be a personal website: the pics are nice and all, and the author appears to be an architect, but the simple fact of being an architect doesn't make you a "recognized authority" -- and ELs to personal webpages are to be avoided unless the author is a "recognized authority". What do you think? --Rrburke(talk) 18:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I made the page for Chuck Wagon and the Wheels, but it is in desperate need for some TLC. I'm not too familiar with them, actually I've never heard of them at all, but I've talked about them with you before. Care to take a look? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Please
Close the dussusion for Heroes of the Bible. I said delete and it should be deleted. if you were an admin, you'd try to your to delete the dumb page and get it over with. Thanks. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 19:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey there
Hey there 10 Pound, how are the otters doing today? I came here today to ask a couple questions. Mostly about AfD stuff. I haven't really tagged anything (other than {{db-author}} for cleaning up my own user space), and since I do run through the new page patrol sometimes, I thought it was time to get edu-ma-kated. I've been reading through some of AfD policy and guideline pages, and my first question is this:
When I see {{subst:prod|reason}}, am I right in assuming that the subst: part means to substitute your explination in the part that says reason ... so that it would look like {{prod|Article ABC does not meet policy XYZ}}?
It's not that I want to go delete a bunch of stuff, I'm more a keep and fix kind of guy; but, I have seen some stuff on NPP that makes me say "huh?". The second question (before I head out for a few hours) is:
Is there a good starting place (other than wp:afd), that gives a good simplified starting point to this (like WP:SR for editing).
Well, thanks for your time, and tell the otters I said hi. ... Just curious, do you actually own otters in real life? Might sound like a dumb question, but I just had to ask ... lol. — Ched (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Unnecessary Deletion of an article
The deletion of Jeopardy! Set Evolution was highly unnecessary, as it appears to have upset some Jeopardy! fans. If anybody is reading this message, please reconstruct Jeopardy! Set Evolution.--Tomballguy (talk) 23:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)Chris
worth submitting back to AfD?
Sorry to bother you - This article was AfD'd (result: redirect) back in 2008. Another editor has resurrected the piece, but the subject has not proven notability (this is a standard issue with many articles for reality-tv contestants, practically all similar articles end up being redirects to the show). I was curious about your feedback, based on the previous AfD as well as whether you felt the article subject can stand on its own. We're discussing at Talk:Christina Machamer. SpikeJones (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Why are links to architecture site considered spam?
I see you've removed links to an architecture site for the General Motors building. The external site appears to be personal and not commercial. Paul (User:Lpgeffen) (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Because it's a personal site, and personal sites are generally to be avoided. There's no proof that the site is made by a reputable person; they could just be pulling facts out their @$$ for all we know. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 00:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I see that the links are against Wikipedia policy, but not for "spam" exactly. The site is an amateur effort that has some useful (and apparently accurate) resources. Paul (User:Lpgeffen) (talk)
They may be "useful", but still, they don't meet the external links policy. Also, dumping a link on a ton of articles at once is considered spamming, no matter how reputable the site. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 01:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Kings of Leon
Can you please review Kings of Leon discography for me? Thank you.
Langdon (talk) 06:01, 24 February 2009 (UTC)i7114080
closing
Hey there 10 pound, how's the otters today? ;). Anyway - if you end up closing this one] - you may need to refactor some of TO's delete edits. New, trying very hard, and doing very well. He's learning quickly, and I'm trying to answer his questions as quick and accurately as I can. (but it's not like I'm a seasoned veteran either) I mentioned it once on the page, and maybe he's just not sure how to change the votes to comments - and I don't want to make him feel he's doing something terrible either. Anyway, just a head's up if you're the one who's going to be closing. — Ched (talk) 01:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Automatic edit summaries
Quick question... how are the automatic edit summaries put in? I've seen like reverted edits by ... to last revision by ...', or reverting vandalism....get the jist? I read the page for the AES, but no, didn't work. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 02:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Howdy Hammer - I'm tempted to put The Autumn Offering on the AfD stack (I also stumbled across articles about the band's unnamed demos in prod patrol), but it's likely that you know more about this group than I do. Is this one worth saving, or should it be put on the stack? B.Wind (talk) 06:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks, TPH. I'm not too sure about redirecting the titles for the current "unnamed" demos - I might take them to AfD as I cannot think of an alternative for them. We'll see, I suppose. B.Wind (talk) 06:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
You do realize I'm not an admin, right? An obvious oversight, I'm sure, but still, an outsider opinion if you have a chance. My response is surely not going to go over well. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Son of a Preacher Man
Please, just go ahead and delete that file. It messed up when I put it in. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You know about malls. This seems to me pretty un-notable: I PRODded it, but the PROD has been taken off. Do you think it would survive an AfD? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I did look at Google, but the references all seemed fairly trivial, mostly about things that happened there rather than substantial comment on the mall itself. My question was really about what effective notability standard gets applied to malls these days - if an AfD would bring out a bunch of supporters waving press clippings, then I won't bother. JohnCD (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Redlinked AfDs
"I'm the ONLY editor on the whole project who ever notices when a discussion is red linked." Of course you are, Hammer; that's why we're never going to let you leave. If you try, we're going to come and get you and throw you and your otters into the WP oubliette, where we'll make you spend every waking minute looking for redlinked AfD discussion pages. Because, after all, none of us want to do it. :-) Deor (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hello TenPoundHammer, and your otters. I'm sure you will be glad to hear that I applied your rule in nominating a music album for deletion. Obviously, it fails both WP:CRYSTAL and WP:HAMMER. The entire article is completely unreferenced too, so there is no assertion of notability. If you wish to participate in this AfD, please feel free to.--DisturbedNerd999 00:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
your user page
"After my last failed RFA back in August '08, I decided to give myself a full year before running again. Please do nominate me until then."
Please DO nominate me? Is that a kinda Freudian slip thingy?
I've been sitting on that since his last batch of RfA indecision and figured he'd have noticed it by now. I didn't change or tell him as he's a big boy now and can figure that out on his own. treeloradda 12:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
About 2009 in country music, and the previous years in country music.
I think that it would be best to add all the top 30 or top 25 songs back onto those pages. I originally said for all top 40 songs to be added on, but i figured that it probably was too many, like Langdon told me, and so i cut back my idea to top 30 or top 25 songs. To me, i think that every top 30 or top 25 song deserves to be on those pages, and deserves to be recognized that way. I figured that since you were the one who said that you decided to cut back all the top 25 songs to top 20 songs when you said that you had suspicions of the Australian chart, i figured that you could give me some ideas about why or why not add all the top 25 or top 30 songs onto the years in country music pages. - (Ryanbstevens (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC))
I listed this article for AFD about a week ago, and I have been having a conversation via talk pages with the author about how the article can meet WP:N, and WP:V. He mentioned the idea that there might be print sources that would satisfy WP:V but never put them up, and he messaged me a few days ago asking what he could do to get the article in compliance. The problem is that without those print sources I'm not sure anything can be done at the present time - none of the sources he listed were WP:RS - mostly press releases, trivial mentions, and directory entries. I couldn't find anything through google. The article has been deleted for spam and copyright violations, and beyond the removal of infringing content the article hasn't changed much - it still looks like a catalog and company prospectus. I would love your thoughts on the article or the AFD discussion. Cheers... Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 02:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Your request at the above page was not processed until now because it was added using the "new section" link rather than being placed in the "sites to unblock" section. Please place new requests in that section in future. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 12:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Paul Harvey
I'm not certain how you cite a detail like this, but Gil Gross said on the air (not sure which day or which broadcast) that Mr. Harvey considered advertising to be a form of news and he could only advertise products he believed in.
I'm sure this information (mentioned by Gross, not the proof he said it, which is all I asserted) is out there somewhere, though I had other things to do besides search for it. Vchimpanzee· talk·contributions· 18:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
There is a web site broadcast, and I think that's the best we can do. I can't remember which one, though, and I don't have sound here.Vchimpanzee· talk·contributions· 19:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Stuff your ennui in a sack buster, I've got stuff to ask...
Now then, remember Rowdy the Ant(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log)? Slightly asinine, prone to screwups at an alarming rate and slightly rude to boot? Yeah well I hope you haven't been keeping an eye on his talkpage because it's sad. Sad that he's still there and editing his talkpage but sadder an admin seems to want to keep him around though he has little aptitude to behave and that might be because of his age which nobody can get around. I think his talkpage should be blocked to prevent him editing but he's not being loud-mouthed or disruptive, just doing odd things like feeling self-pity and wanting an unblock even though nothing will change should it be granted. No, I know WP:COMPETENCE isn't more than an essay but I feel that in this case RTA fails it. Strongly. Allowing him to go fart around on his talkpage is like a partial ban where all spaces but his own personal plantbox are forbidden and I just don't like it especially when the only reason he has to use his talkpage is to request an unblock which he doesn't want to do using a {{unblock}} and I don't think any reason he can make will be good enough. Maybe I should disengage but I don't want to find him continuing the very reasons he got blocked in a few weeks time. treeloradda 00:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the deletion help! Your reply was super fast. I wasn't sure about where to put the help tag, either; I was worried if I put it at the bottom, nobody would see it. Shows was Sarwicked knows. Sarwicked (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
DHowell just added some references. Check it out. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Bobby.
I have noticed that someone keeps scewing with the jypsi page. Has chamged Cowboy Jack Clements name twice. It now reads Cowboys "Bebop" Whoever keeps changing it should be nailed for it. "Clements" is correct.. not "Bebop! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.191.162 (talk) 21:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Wellworths (GB), it's something about retail and deletion so I thought of you...
Got a new article, I'm a bit edgy about nominating it for deletion as it has only existed for less than twelve hours now but I question its notability and if it has any. Basically a victim of recentism in the wake of the collapse of Woolworths here in the UK, this single branch store has one call to notability in it being ran in a former Woolworths location by its manager and replicating much of what the former store sold. For me, it's just one store replicating a failed business model and has little going for it besides being a nice human interest story for a local paper in terms of notability. You could argue it's the first of such a store and Wellworths could expand and become notable but right now, it simply isn't.
So, what would you do if this was something occurring in your neck of the woods? treeloradda 20:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Just as an FYI, it does fulfil GNG but seems to be a WP:BLP1E but not in a BLP sense, just a shoddy nostalgia clusterfuck way. Probably should have said before you went and nom'd, expect a snow close for this first shot as recentisms rarely seem to acknowledge the future and their place in it should they even have one. treeloradda 20:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone has been altering the page and has removed the Afd block. Has the matter been resolved?82.29.215.181 (talk) 14:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
The The
That's better indeed. Difficult these one man bands. :) Garion96(talk) 20:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
Really appreciate the help! :D LychosisT/C 20:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Alan Jackson album
I figured that would happen. I own all the songs off this album not to mention it was listed on ebay several times but it's too late for that. One of these days TenPundHammer!:)
(Publichall (talk) 03:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC))
It is only your opinion that the source isn't reliable. Doug Limerick and Gil Gross are not on the air, and my revision is going back. You can't get more reliable than not hearing them at all.Vchimpanzee· talk·contributions· 13:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Now that I look at the source again, it doesn't look right as a definite source. But my station isn't airing Limerick or Gross. Vchimpanzee· talk·contributions· 13:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
There IS an apparently reliable source that you have to pay for. Someone found it when it was new and free. I deleted it from whichever article when it didn't work and used the other one you didn't like. But it quoted the "reliable" source.Vchimpanzee· talk·contributions· 13:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Country music plight
Hi otters — I've long heard of your trying to hold up Wikipedia:WikiProject Country Music by yourself, and observing the state of desperation within its articles. I know what it's like to be in a wikiproject that doesn't seem to be moving sometimes. ;) So I've decided to go ahead and help with the project; try to revive it some, and most of all, improving country articles when I have time. I've been involved with music articles ever since I joined Wikipedia, so my general experience should probably lend some asset to the project. :) One question, though: is there any participants list? Even if there's not, I'm considering myself as a member of the project now. Cheers, Jamie☆S93 15:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
With a topic I'm less familiar with, I'll unfortunately be more of a gnome than anything else at first (expanding isn't so easy when you're not familiar with a topic's common reference websites). But from how I look at it, even if an article is lacking some information, at least we can try to make that present amount of information look good, referenced, staying neutral and flowing well. What are some of the sources that you commonly use (besides the major ones like Billboard and Rolling Stone)? Jamie☆S93 15:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good. Thx, Jamie☆S93 15:38, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, TenPoundHammer. You have new messages at IRP's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Thank you for your positive comments. I went through and redid the sources. Please review the sources.
William was an important member of the Providence community, the first of his surname to make permanent residence in America.
Anything else you can help me with before the article gets deleted?
John R. Carpenter
Jrcrin001 (talk) 02:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you!
If you have time, please show me how you did it! Philologia (talk) 23:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
It's dead, Jim
In case you missed it, I nuked that article. It's ridiculous that it stuck around since May of last year with no references... Pretty solid hoax, even the Myspace page is hoaxed up. I'll leave the images for that deletion process, though, as I still don't know my way around the image rules and don't want to do something wrong there... Thanks for the heads-up! Tony Fox(arf!) 03:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I've seen an "anti-canvassing" banner used on some AFDs, but I can't find the right template for it. If you remember, could you put it up? The canvassing is at [24], or more specifically on page 3. Thanks! VF10 (talk) 18:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Happy April Fools!
Happy April Fools' Day!
Hey, it's finally the day...! Some of you have been really anticipating it, and helping Wikipedia by preparing nonsense for the Main Page or doing other silly stuff. It's only 1 day out of 365, so us overstressed wikiholics should use the day to look at things a tad differently. ;) Have fun! Jamie☆S93 02:02, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I know it is April Fools and all, but in one of your edits there you signed as an editor who has left the project and did so by invoking his right to vanish (hence why I am not mentioning his name as I am sure you know who I am referring to). As such, I am not sure it is in the best of taste to bring him up as a pretend editor as a joke; it actually kind of borders on a personal attack to him, as who knows if he would find that amusing given how he left and we really shouldn't dig at editors who aren't even around to react. I don't mean to be a kill joy, but it just doesn't feel right. Thanks. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 04:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
You know how this could go Robert, don't make us force you to do something you might later thank us for. treelothe cake is a lie 15:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Death to you, repeating a non-meme meme like that. treelothe cake is a lie 15:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Just be glad I'm not a Simpsons fan, otherwise I'd bring up the "'Milhouse is not a meme' is a meme is not a meme is not a meme is a meme is Numberwang is Treelo/Yngvarr's squeedly spooch" (that was fun to say). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Then who was phone? That I could live with but no YouTube Poop "memes", they're disgusting putrid meatcows. treelothe cake is a lie 18:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
(merp) Really? Good... I've called Yng over, he'll laugh and point at you like in a bad dream where you have no pants at a big exam. treelosqueedly spooch 18:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Insolent otter boy! Yngvarr(t)(c) 18:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to clean up this process and start over? We seem to be tripping over each other. I found the "AfD in 3 steps" page, and will probably be able to follow that successfully. Chonak (talk) 20:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Ronald Conte
Hello,
I saw that you nominated this for deletion. I would like to keep it for perhaps 6 more months if that is OK.
The reason why is that I believe he has done quite a bit of work gathering otherwise devout Catholics like myself, and using a combination of smooth talk and bullying threats, he has lead many astray.
He has made some bold predictions that are going to be proven untrue in the next two weeks. I mentioned them with the additonal info I added, but after his date comes and goes, I want to add a lot more information, backed up with links to prove them.
I want anyone else that comes across this man to have the history behind his predictions/prophecies so that they won't be led down the wrong path like I was for a while.
This is the only wikipedia contribution I have done, so I don't know if I am doing this right. I just want to show that the emporer truly has no clothes.
You closed it? You are NO fun! :P~ Umbralcorax (talk) 03:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
yeah, i know it needed to be closed, i ws just saying it in an "oh darnit" kind of way, not really serious. I have to admit though, as far as jokes went, it was pretty amusing. Umbralcorax (talk) 16:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
TenPoundHammer's Law
I just wanted to say that I'm delighted to cite your Law after having discovered it recently. I hope to use it more in the future and will be looking for opportunities to extend its reach. Thanks for thinking of it! Accounting4Taste:talk 04:20, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes! Wait a minute... No.
Glad someone recognized it! :D Years later and I still call my GPS the "guidey chippy thing." -Sketchmoose (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Rehoboth Carpenter family
Can you please review the history of Rehoboth Carpenter family, I am afraid that "Iwannafish" is starting an edit war. Over many months GeneZub has tried to get "Iwannafish" to work together to create a better article. I have seen the dozen plus emails sent to the person behind Iwannafish. He is known in Carpenter Family circles for over 10 years. I have emailed him and asked him to communicate and not get stuborn. I have encouraged him to use the discussion page. While, he can provide good material, he has his moments.
Maybe you can write or say something to stop the edit war?
I would really appreciate any help.
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
Jrcrin001 (talk) 05:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
@n1m0$!ty speedy deletion
Hi there. Of course you can delete it at WP:AFD before the 5 days are up. However, I think it's wrong (bad form) to tag it for both at the same time. If you tag it for speedy at the same time, there is a high risk that an admin who has not read the discussion might delete it, while the discussion back at AfD goes on. If someone removes the speedy tag, then one should send it to ProD or Afd. Once at AfD, you can delete it in less then 5 days - in effect a speedy deletion. In fact, I've done so myself - and I label all of them at User:Bearian/Deletions. I have no idea if this article is a hoax or not. It appears not to be notable in any case per WP:BAND. Bearian (talk) 00:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
P.S. It can be verified that it exists - see a Google Search. So much cruft ended up on WP over the past 2 days that it's hard to tell what's real on April Fools Day. Bearian (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but I didn't see that part of the hoax. ProD can the better solution when WP:BLP is not invoelved - it's likely to be a non-controversial deletion. I try to assume you know what you're talking about from your reputation. Bearian (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Readding removed speedy tags.
I'm sure you don't need me to quote policy at you, but you should be aware that re-adding speedy deletion tags that have been legitimately removed on Tiffany the Superstar constitutes disruptive editing. Please stop and make your concerns known in the AfD that is already running. Jenuk1985 | Talk 20:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Please stop re-adding speedy deletion tags from pages where they are legitimately removed. If you still feel Monsters, Inc. 2 warrants deletion, I suggest nominating it via the AfD process. Jenuk1985 | Talk 01:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Category:Actors-singers Singers-actors
Hello TenPoundHammer. I just created a category for singers who have become actors, and for actors who have become singers. I just need your opinion on this idea, and to see if this was a good idea to you or not. I have created some categories, and on this one, I just thought that I should let you know about it, and for you to give me any ideas about if this category was a good idea or not. I just thought that it was a good idea because there are plenty of celebrities who are both singers and actors, and I just need your opinion on this kind of category. Ryanbstevens (talk) 03:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Lionel Cartwright
I got the musicians and writers on the article but the cassette I own doesn't list the lengths. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 20:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Seemed you were mad keen on a delete, I got no probs with a redirect but only because there's not one reliable review out there, if there was one I'd still be saying keep. It doesn't need that hammer of yours every time :D Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 00:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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Toby Keith article
You might want to take a look at the Keith article. Some editors are adding contentious material about a disagreement between Keith and Kris Kristofferson. Even their source (the not too neutral Huffington Post) says that Kristofferson doesn't recall the incident happening. That sounds like a rumor to me, which doesn't belong in BLP articles. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Re:Dakota Moon
T40 Mainstream is a component chart but Adult Top 40 is not, so far as I can tell, and we do include it in articles (e.g., Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks number-one hits of 2008). I'm going to revert, and if you feel real strongly about removing the mainstream placement, I won't stop you again. Chubbles (talk) 13:06, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't know where that fellow has gotten his information. it's not clear to me that the Adult Top 40 is, in fact, a component chart; it is a rather unique market indicator, and in any case, that rubric should be amended to allow for its inclusion on this chart where a song did not chart anywhere else (not the case here, but it should be done in theory). But that whole page you linked me to is trouble with a capital T. He talks about 'notability' of chart data, which is indicative of the massive scope creep of the idea of notability, which is supposed to determine what articles are allowed, and not what components of the article are allowed. I disagree with this usage of the term 'notability'. He discounts the use of the Dance Maxi-Singles chart based on current sales! Obviously he didn't live through the disco era, when this chart was a gold standard. And the fact that he disallows the ringtone charts based on "Donkey Kong, 'nuff said" - well, suffice it to say not enough said for me. That's information that's entirely germane to include in the music section of the Donkey Kong article, for instance; the enduring popularity of a decades-old video game song is of encyclopedic interest.
I really don't want to talk policy. I hate it. I treat as wasted any time I spend arguing with people about Wikipedia's policies; I have no real shot at changing the policies or people's minds, so I don't try. All I'm doing is trying to prevent the erosion of useful and encyclopedic information in an article I created. So please, just treat it carefully, that's all I ask. Chubbles (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Rehoboth Carpenter family
Thanks for intervening. But don't expect any cooperation from Iwanafish. Please see "Clarification" section on Rehoboth Carpenter family discussion page.GeneZub (talk) 04:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
ITunes originals AfD
I closed the AfD as delete, and have already had one talkpage response pointing out that the sub-articles were not tagged with the AfD banner, which I hadn't realise when I closed it. Whilst I believe the closure was correct, if the AfD is taken to DRV I am sure this omission will count against such a result, as many editors will have been denied a chance to comment. Black Kite 17:46, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi!
Your name is mentioned here - just thought I'd let you know! Cheers, Majorlytalk 02:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Happy Easter!
On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 08:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi TPH. Quick question as you're one of the most music focused editors I know. When/if you have a moment, can you have a look see at My Shiralee? I declined the speedy because context was easy enough byt I have no idea how to determine album notability. Thanks! StarM 03:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the eyes and the info. Glad to know it's probably notable. I'll leave it for someone more familiar. Happy Easter StarM 01:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Enjoy Your Day
Happy TenPoundHammer Day! I've watched your contribs ever since I first saw you and I must say that I am impressed with your work regarding music articles and even AfD. I'll be glad to support you at your next RfA in August (or whenever you decide to run again).
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Huh, hell is now somewhat temperate apparently. Who did you pay off to get a day? treeloradda 16:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
It's called Easter. My otters went off to snork up Jelly Bellys and chocolate bunnies before having Easter dinner (ham and mashed potatoes for me, clams for them). Of course, they ate Dylan's gifts too. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 20:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, yeah, I'm sure you guys did (I don't get the relevance really) but still, who did you pay off? Remember how unrepentant otter loving deletionists don't get official days of niceness? Even made a userbox to explain that. Next you'll tell me you'll be given the bit by leafdropping season. treeloradda 00:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't think you're a jerk, an incompetent chef's apprentice sure but not a jerk. treeloradda 01:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
western flyer article
Hey Bobby
My name is Chris Marion. First, i want to thank you for your efforts on the Western Flyer article as well as my own personal entry. Since i will always be the first to scoff at the question of my own significance in the grand scheme of music history, i will overlook your recommendation for the deletion of my personal article...
I realize that your efforts are voluntary and even more admirable under those circumstances. You seem to have a genuine interest in music and making factual information available to masses.
The other reason for my note is to ask you to stop changing the Western Flyer article to show Texas as the state the band was started in. Danny Myrick and I started the band right here in Nashville, TN in 90's. I see that you've changed this back to Texas citing Joel Whitburn's 2004 book concerning top 40 hits. Joel's information is wrong and I have no idea where or why he would have obtained the Texas misquote. The only press or promotional information concerning our founding detailed the location as TN. We both had been living in TN for a few years at the point we started the band.
I realize that this is a trivial detail in the bigger picture. In the same sense, it is a detail that those of us involved in founding WF care to have represented correctly in wikipedia regardless of Whitburn's mistake. His information concerning the band is most likely page filler since we had a top 40 song listed on the page and i doubt that he did any more than casual reseach in the matter.
While it's obviously helpful to include citations in wiki articles, i would lean toward omitting links to incorrect information.
If you play piano and admit to being a church keyboardist, you must be a pretty decent guy. I do the same myself when i am not on the road. Thanks for your understanding on this point and again for your contributions to the articles concerning projects i am involved in.
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I wanted you to know that this article started out as an article for Gary Allan's version of "She's So California", which was a #24 hit, where i originally wouldn't have created it, but i found a source for it, and so i just went ahead and created the article. Despite the source, it was redirected by another user (because it was a low-charter i suppose). Then another user turned it into a disambugation page. Anyway, i reverted the article back to the way it was when it was first created, and before it was redirected to Living Hard. I just need your opinion on the action of reverting the "She's So California" article. Thank you. Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Tammy Rogers
On April 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tammy Rogers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Please check out City of London School is there a TOC table in the middle of the article? I can not see it with my browser. But others say they can see it. Any ideas how to move it?
Thanks in advance.
John R. Carpenter
Jrcrin001 (talk) 03:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
What You Don't Know (John Randall album)
Noted. I picked up the date linking thing from other articles. I was trying to conform with them. whatever! Publichall (talk) 23:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Giant Records
Please don't move pages without first asking for a consensus, preferably at WP:RM. "Giant/Warner Bros. Records" goes against naming conventions, as the label's true name was indeed "Giant Records". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 03:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
The true name of the label wasn't "Giant Records (Warner Bros. subsidiary label)" either. I also don't remember there being a consensus to give the article that name. Despite how the article is titled, the labels legal ("true") name "Giant Records" is plainly stated inside. —The Real One Returns 04:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of categories.
Thanks for the note on my page. Category deletion policy says
"See WP:CSD. Categories that are patently nonsensical, vandalistic, test pages, substantially identical recreations of earlier deleted content, or requested for deletion by their creator and sole contributor can be deleted immediately." Your reference to G8 is correct, but applies to articles, not categories. At least that is my understanding. It's not as if I haven't done shedloads wrong according to WP policy, and, really no harm has been done to anything this time. FWIW, last time I speedied an article for being badly written unreferenced spam I got rapped over the knuckles for not notifying King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table or some other individuals. LOL. Take it easy, you are doing a great job. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
CSD Question
Quick policy question for you, the Andy Nees article is obviously a hoax (you just tagged it as such). It was originally tagged db-empty [25] which was declined [26].
Since it wasn't empty (but obviously fabricated), I nominated it as db-bio [27], which was then speedily declined [28] as "already been declined, suggest AfD."
From there I PROD'ed it (removed by author) and sent it to AfD, but should I just have returned to the article and put the db-hoax up, in spite of the fact the second CSD attempt was ignored?
Just asking for future reference, so I'll fully understand the policy. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 21:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Gracias, I appreciate it. When I tagged it as a db-bio, he hadn't added the obviously fabricated details. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 21:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
()*&(%^%$*( I was just finishing up an eloquent, well-argued note for any admin to close it quickly, and you already did it. Listen, I also asked for any passing VIP to apply Rollback to the Brenden Foster article and restore it to the condition before that editor started messing with it. Can you do that? or find someone who can? I put some effort into it the last time around. Also, I left a vandal-3 warning on the editor's talk page; are sterner measures necessary? Thanks for the snowy keep, Drmies (talk) 17:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey Hammer, please check the AfD again--editor felt free to re-open it and restore the AfD template to the article, and the 'improvements' they made to the article. I undid those changes. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Editor has reverted three times, [29], [30], [31]. I've reverted that twice and don't wish to fall afoul of WP:3RR; I've left them a warning. Editor has also twice reverted your closure of the AfD--I can't easily undo that, because of intermediate edits. Drmies (talk) 19:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey TPH, this AfD came up here in a discussion of non-admin-closures. Not as a positive or negative commentary on how you personally handled it, but just as an illustration of some difficulties with the process (like how NACs get reopened). Just letting you know as a courtesy. Townlake (talk) 16:38, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
'Removing backlinks to Bioptics because "red link"; using TW'
Please stop removing redlinks willy-nilly. They should only be removed if they link to articles that are unlikely to ever be written (or which if written would not be likely to survive AfD). Redlinks to topics about which a good article can plausibly be written actually encourage article creation; they are valuable to Wikipedian efforts. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 05:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I removed that particular red link because I noticed it only had one incoming link, and the only other mention of the term at all on Wikipedia is in this article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 18:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't see how that's really relevant. Even a very cursory reading of the off-WP literature on albinism shows that bioptics are real, important to people with albinism, and (in WP terms) both notable and sourceable. Someone will eventually write the article. I've thought of doing it myself, but have had too many other things on my plate. A piece of very specialized equipment like that isn't likely to ever be linked to from more than a handful of highly relevant articles. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 07:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
PS: The term as used at the Zaldivar article is clearly something different, a surgical vision correction technique. So, there'll need to be disambiguation. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 07:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I've just created the DAB and both articles as sourced stubs. I honestly don't think I should have had to go to that much trouble to prevent deletion of redlinks that obviously should remain, as extremely likely targets of article creation. That being the original point of my message here. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 08:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Related behaviorial dispute
I just now noticed your reflexive, flippant, and falsely justified re-revert at Albinism. Your edit summary incredibly claimed "There only seems to be one scientist/whatever who supports bioptics. I've checked, there're NO SOURCES about whatever the heck they are." This is absurd on several levels.
After an edit of yours has been challenged on your talk page by another established editor, you should work to resolve that dispute rather than just editwar/revertwar over the matter.
The article on the doctor you mentioned already cited sources.
If you'd read the plain wording of that stub and its sources, you would've seen that the claim that he is the only supporter of the procedure is nonsensical; he was simply its originator, and the procedure is increasingly popular according to a reliable medical source.
It is glaringly obvious from the text at that bio and at the albinism article that the surgical procedure in question cannot by definition be the same thing as a pair of extreme-magnification glasses. Your edit summary's justification, echoed in the thread above, simply isn't applicable at all, as the doctor and his "bioptics" had nothing to do with the albinism article and your deletion edits in it.
You cannot possibly have "checked" in any meaningful way, since it took me less than five seconds at Google to find multiple sources (I only bothered citing two of them, but there are plenty more) for the device and its relationship to albinism in particular.
So, finally, your claim that "there're NO SOURCES about whatever the heck they are" is patently false.
Please be less judgemental about subjects you do not happen to be knowledgeable about, clearly don't care about given your dismissive "whatever the heck" language, and are unwilling to do any research on at all. No incivility is intended; this is constructive criticism, even if a rather large amount of it. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey
I came across you browsing AfD and just thought I'd drop you a line. Actually, I thought, since you have such an awesome username, I'd check your credentials (yes, I'm nosy like that and yes, the are VERY impressive)! I also read your userpage- I just do that, mainly in the vain hope that somebody might read mine, even if it is mainly for my own reference! I was wondering how I could help with your country music drive. I'm not an expert, but I am a fan and there's always google- the second most useful thing on the web- and I've plenty of time to spare and I'm always happy to help out a fellow wikipedian, so drop me a line and I'll see what I can do. Also, having read your userpage and checked your credentials, I was wondering why your RfAs all went sour? Kind regards, HJ Mitchell (talk) 17:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
You and others have taught me well that some singles aren't really notable, but are some albums (such as Make It Home by Dan Seals) not notable enough to have an article either? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Make It Home
You and others have taught me well that some singles aren't really notable, but are some albums (such as Make It Home by Dan Seals) not notable enough to have an article either? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Make It Home
You and others have taught me well that some singles aren't really notable, but are some albums (such as Make It Home by Dan Seals) not notable enough to have an article either? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Getcha Some
A user has requested me to undo a redirect on Toby Keith's "Getcha Some". I made it a redirect page, knowing that although a top 20 hit, still not high enough or notable enough. However, a user has said that he found sources on it, and knowing that although not notable enough, should still have an article because of Toby Keith's rap-like style. However, since i didn't really know what to do about a low peaking song such as this one in all the confusion, i just decided to follow his request and undid it. Then you added the redirect back. So did that mean that this song can't have an article no matter what due to it's low peaking? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (File:Cagleanywhere.jpg)
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Shelton Brothers
Despite what the article said, the Shelton Brothers never charted on the Billboard country charts. Eric444 (talk) 10:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Store lists
Just letting you know, I've removed lists of former locations from a number of department and grocery store chain articles after having been reverted, and there's also some discussion going on regarding this practice at Talk:May Company Ohio and User talk:Pubdog, as well as back-and-forth in the history of Big Bear Stores. Would appreciate your opinion on these matters. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I see you've been in touch with the authour of this article. I must say, I have a few concerns over it, which I have expressed on the talk page of the authour (I can't remember the name offhand, sorry, but the revision history only has three entries). Having stumbled across your signature for the third time in under a week, I wondered if you'd take a look at it and clarify the point of notability. Many thanks, HJ Mitchell (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. However, it doesn't cite anything! no references, not even an external link- the only link is to a WP article on some music database which, if checked, merely seems to allow one to listen to the track. It doesn't seem to give any info on it (assuming, if it did, it would qualify as a WP:RS in the first place). I'll see what I can do later on if it's any help, though I'm working on something else at the minute (I just patrolled the last new page on the backlog as a distraction, though, as is often the way, I got further tied down!) regards, HJ Mitchell (talk) 20:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
I know it was a blog, but it actually was documentation (albeit not great documentation) of store locations. I don't much care, anyway. I just thought somebody ought to look at the content before deciding it was WP:linkspam. Personally, I've never been in a Caldor store in my life. I thought calling it WP:vandalism was a bit much, however. SINBD. No worries. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Stan
It would be nice if you would mention the "WP:vandalism". I thought it was a wee bit of an overreaction.
You two can do what you want with Caldor. I've already lost interest, and it will have to develop without me. Happy, happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Stan
[Wynonna]
Hey there :) A Wynonna fan here. I spent a lot of time finding references for all of the claims in the Wynonna article, and I did find a lot from her official sources. :) I removed your biography addition for a few reasons: 1) The writing was a little mediocre (not to mention Wynonna was misspelled), and 2) inaccuracy (her career began in 1992 :) ) I'm going to revert the article back to the references I added, and if you'd like to go through it and remove what sources are bad, this would be considerably less destructive than the current revision. Let me know what you think. Thanks ! :)
Wynonnastff (talk) 23:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to remind you that Wikipedia is a COMMUNITY project, not just the work of one person :) A good editor would keep reverting back to the last "acceptable" article - but a GREAT editor would flag latest, sourced article, and make revisions, as it is less destructive. Thanks!!!
New Wynonna Edits
I understand that and I agree. I do not, however, understand your reasoning for reverting the article back to such a messy, primitive one, instead of trying help out the latest edits I've made. I feel like the constructive aspects of my recent edits were cleaning up the copy for errors, and moving things around for cohesion. I did obtain permission to use the image directly from the copyright holder. I have written proof, and thoroughly read through the fair use guidelines before uploading. I do feel like it qualifies. But..until we get that resolved, I understand that a free one should to be used. I hope we can collaborate on this and find a middle ground between the article I edited and one that meets Wikipedia's guidelines more effectively.
So, shall we start right now? I'd like to at least start with the bulk of the copy that can be seen on this revision: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wynonna_Judd&oldid=285951599, as I feel like it's pretty clean, and a good start from where the article is now. Judging by just the text & sources, what parts do you feel like would need to be removed? Also, I'd love for you to expand the lead section. Let me know what you think, as I can tell you have a lot more experience with this :)
Cool, we'll if you're working on it right now, I'll let you do your thing for a bit and come back see if I can contribute somehow! Let me know if you have any specific "tasks" or significant work you'd think would get the article moving again...I'd love to help. :)
Checked out the new edits. This looks great - well done. I'll do some work in the coming days digging up some of these sources, especially the chart ones. I have access to a lot of Billboard back issues from the archives in my college's library... Some things that catch my eye right now - the header of "Appearances in Television" is H3 while the two headers preceding and one following it are H2. I feel like they are all equally significant, so perhaps it was overlooked. Also, in the same paragraph, according to Wiki's MoS, I believe the comma after "Wynonna: Tribute on Ice" should fall outside of the quotation marks. Additionally, same paragraph, the end quotation mark is missing from "Nashville Star". One last thought - I feel like the image right now, although compliant with Fair Use and Wiki standards, is very outdated, and a better one could be found. I do have express, written permission from the copyright holder of the image I uploaded (plus a few others) and would like to discuss the possibilities of using this image, or another current image. *** Whoops - forgot to mention that I'd let you make the call on those edits in the "Appearances in Television" paragraph. Just pointing them out :)
Cool. PS - phonetically, my user name is read as 'Wynonna's Tough'. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wynonnastff (talk • contribs) 04:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (File:DanSeals.jpg)
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Coloring in singles on track listings on album articles
I thought i'd show you this idea. On every album article, unless they're already linked (have an article), we should color in the songs on track listings that were released as singles green or some other color. Take a look at this album article Family Tradition for example. The title track has an article so it's linked, and doesn't really need to be colored in. The other three singles charted low and don't have articles, and so i colored them in green to identify that they were released as singles. Is this a good idea? Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I would like to thank you for your participation on the AFD for this article, which is important to the quality of wikipedia (whether your opinion is in agreement with mine or not). I'd like to ask you to revisit your vote, considering user:Paul Erik has begun sourcing the main article to the point where I believe it establishes the topic notable enough to be discussed in major publications like Billboard, and The Hollywood Reporter, and there are likely more sources out there to be discovered. My opinion is that the main article is clearly notable, while the subarticles should be looked at on a case-by-case basis, as some may be notable, and others not. I'd appreciate you considering your vote again, based on the new sourcing. Thanks. TheHYPO (talk) 15:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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Vijay Kangutkar
My previous proposed deletion was denied so I requested AfD, why don't you just comment there? I'll remove the speedy deletion template, although I agree with it. Thanks Hekerui (talk) 15:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Well if they can, then fine. I thought that if a proposed deletion is denied that also pretty much means a speedy would. Hekerui (talk) 16:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Your message page was blanked. I presume this is a mistake.
On another note, per my Bonnie Tyler comment earlier, I feel slightly better now. The World Starts Tonight is complete and I shall carry on next time I'm on. Since I'd previously asked you for advice on discography pages, do you mind taking a quick peek and seeing if I overlooked anything? I'm trying to get back into good habits and will rework this whole thing if I have to (I just wish I knew what these 1977 compilations were on the discography page, her first CD was in 1977 and AllMusic has no compilations until 1991...hmm...). =) CycloneGU (talk) 04:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I replied on my talk page per the album discussion. My reference to a mistake was because the archive for it hadn't been set up yet. =) CycloneGU (talk) 21:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps you would consider changing your opinion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PureVolume since non-trivial reliable sources have been found since your input, and the fact that I have rewritten the article using these sources. ~EdGl★ 18:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Love Your Love the Most
Why did you merge the single's article into the album article? Should i have waited until it got higher? Because i know that the article on Jason Michael Carroll's single "Where I'm From" was created when it was only in the upper 30's. "Love Your Love the Most" is now in the lower 20's. So shouldn't it have it's own article? Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I really thought it was beyond all hope. Great first edit - way to be bold! Lawtype!snype? 20:57, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Great, now i'm worried The League of Inclusionist Wikipedians will recruit you, a dyed in the wool deletionst pig-child. The end is nigh. treeloradda 21:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
What many don't realize is that inclusionist/deletionist ideologies generally refer to article information that is not properly cited - not the article itself. TPH removed all unsourced information in a splendid effort to keep the article. Keeping is not the same as inclusion. If anything, he acted as more of a deletionist in an effort to save an article that was brought to AfD mainly because of inclusion of unsourced material. He is still your beloved deletionist, lol. Lawtype!snype? 23:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
O I realized that. I just felt like clowning back ;) Lawtype!snype? 23:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Wait, now I'm lost... I suppose this is how you feel on occasion. Tell me again as if we're at simple.wiki as I became lost just after Yng got the fatherly "Very funny". It's all the full names, not that anyone is shortening my name and they damn well better not. Radda. treeloradda 00:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Aww gee, Wally, we were just having fun. Yngvarr(t)(c) 00:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
T'werent you, was them and their there book learnin's. I's just simple folk'n, undoin' an' revertin' allas time, ain't doing none of that fancy buildin' shenanigans and speakin' all long like. Why shoot, a guy could get lost in allas tha'. treeloradda 00:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Rescue is a practice with a long and honourable tradition at AFD, going back many years. Goodonyer! But on that very subject, see the rescue at Title track (AfD discussion), performed by some other article rescuers. Uncle G (talk) 13:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hm, nice {{On AFD}} template there, classy. Anyway, I wouldn't consider converting a page into a dab a rescue but I guess I should be happy it's Chowder's nom which was rescued. treeloradda 15:39, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Stuff (Header)
Hello!!! I've been creating articles left and right (you should know)!
I've just created List of songs written by Kostas. If you know of any songs by him that aren't on the list, add 'em! good day. Publichall (talk) 02:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
John Anderson
I have created all the missing album articles for John Anderson, so you can remove him from your list. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 05:08, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Assign me something!
Hey, saw your cry for help on your user page, and thought I'd volunteer - point me at an article you think needs some love, and I'll give it a run. I need some inspiration, and I'm too lazy to get anything going on my own. =) Tony Fox(arf!) 22:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
On May 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leon Ashley, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I didn't think this was appropriate for the Dead Flowers AFD, but I'm just curious, not being all that familiar with the various American charts, whether a hit on the "Hot Country Songs" chart is considered reliable or applicable for the purposes of notability. Billboard states that Miranda Lambert's single was a promo, which suggests the chart is not based on sales, and that the single wasn't actually even 'released', so I wonder how much legitimacy it has. I also wonder whether number 40 on such a specialist chart (presumably equating to way outside the top 100 of the 'proper' singles chart, the "Hot 100") can really be considered a 'hit single'? I know I've come across people claiming that number 40-50 on national singles charts doesn't constitute a 'hit' in previous AFDs. I'm not planning on nominating the article for deletion or anything, just curious to know how that chart is thought of. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Carolwood Records is apparently owned by Disney; does that make a difference? (Watchlisting) - Dank (push to talk) 17:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Sigh
When I prod, I want to draw the attention of the right wikiproject. Does that mean for bands, I have to figure out which one they are in this list? " Alternative • Christian Metal • Christian • Country • Electronic • Emo • Hip hop • Jam bands • Metal • Musical Theatre • Punk • Rave • R&B and Soul • Rock" If so, where do I find the talk page tags for those wikiprojects? Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 20:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Wayne Massey
On the album cover, "Black Hawk" is written on his guitar, so it's possible that his guitar is named Black Hawk.[33] That's all that I've been able to find. Eric444 (talk) 07:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
AfD protocol
Good day Sir,
I hope this message finds you well. I want to ask you about the removal of two of my AfD nominations. In your edit summary, your succinct reply was "did it wrong". That's all well and good, and I shall defer to your judgement on the matter. However, I do take exception to a lack of explaination on *how* to do it correctly. Would you, sir, be so kind as to explain this procedure to me? I appreciate your help. Sincerely, Kale Weathers (talk) 18:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Bent Banana
You can't just put a speedy tag back on. I am not the author and I didn't do anything illegitimate; I removed a tag that's inappropriate, and the next step, AfD, is already happening. Please don't do that again. Chubbles (talk) 02:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Look, I don't like to start edit wars, but I also disagree. Where do we go from here? Chubbles (talk) 02:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
There's no urgency; nothing happens if this article stays up for a couple days. I can't believe everyone is just taking my word for this; they don't take my word on the notability of anything else. Chubbles (talk) 02:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
AVON LAKE, OHIO
My edit was not vandalism. I simply rv red-linked names for non-notables (including a Playboy Playmate) and added a name (Brett Kirwan) that I planned to create an article for. (see Avon Lake's edit history here) You may or may not agree with the edit, but you should not label it as vandalism when it clearly was not. That term is very objectionable. [email protected] (talk) 07:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I tried creating the category, Category:Billboard 200 number-one albums, a number of months ago before knowing the previous history and it was speedily deleted. However, because there are so many number-one singles categories and zero number-one albums categories, I sought some feedback from User:Good Olfactory and User:Ericorbit, and neither objected to me trying to recreate the category again based on my reasoning and seeing that the last CFD occurred nearly three years ago. I'm uncertain as to why singles are able to get categorized by every country and every Billboard chart where they hit #1, but albums don't get the same treatment. Thanks. --Wolfer68 (talk) 07:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Sekritwikicookie.png
Alright, I CSD G7ed it. Hopefully it's kosher to G7 my own image; I'm guessing it is, since the image was non-controversial and created for a one-off and now deprecated joke page. One (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Notice:
Major Fred C Dobbs is not a character but an episode. Please review your comment at AfD, the article, adn correct your comment and !vote as needed. Thank you for your efforts in reviewing my submissions at AfD. ThuranX (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. ThuranX (talk) 20:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
You removed this guy from country songwriters. I knew him as a country songwriter, but I could be wrong, OTOH, he is listed in his article as "country." However, as genre is an arrangement rather than anything to do with songwriting which is purely melody and words, I am not sure if you can categorise songwriters by genre anyway. I'll leave it for you to decide. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 22:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
"The Future" Lonestar's next single?
I did a little bit of investigating on Lonestar's discography through the edit history. "The Future" was listed as the next single for three months now. It should've been released by now. It being listed as the next single for three months has led me to realize that their next single "The Future" is false information, and not really sourced, in addition to that next single being put in by an unestablished user. I was wondering, am i right that their next single "The Future" could be false information? It was listed there for three months, and it still hasn't been released. Ryanbstevens (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
AWB task
Does this still need to be done?--Rockfang (talk) 04:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi TPH. I encountered your speedy tag at CAT:SD and, initially, I didn't intend to take any action. However, I read through the entire article; in my opinion, it did not cross the G11 threshold, so I decided to decline it. To quote the criterion: "Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Pages that exclusively promote some entity and that would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic." I agree that the article is quite unencyclopedic and has neutrality problems (seems to match the "fundamentally rewritten" part of that sentence). It's not "unambiguous advertising", though, with the sole purpose of promotion. There is some neutral info, for example, the "production and controversy" is not an advert. CSD is generally for irretrievable, obvious cases, and this is not really one of those.
If the AfD runs its one-week course, the article will probably get deleted from lack of notability, anyway. For now, I'm letting another admin handle this case. Best, Jamie☆S93 19:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
It looks like DGG just declined the speedy himself. Jamie☆S93 19:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
As an aside, if you read the article it in fact says that the company is out of business. It's rather hard to make an argument that an article is advertising when you can no longer buy the product. --BlueSquadronRaven 14:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, TenPoundHammer. You have new messages at DGG's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I've created all the album articles for Eddie Rabbitt, and I have re-written his biographical article. You can now remove him from your list. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 06:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
New Kadampa tradition
Hey man
I just got unblocked on the above page-Im sorry about the rant-I did a shorter expl there after your request. Please can you help on this?See the NKT talk page, last section. I dont know how to deal with these people-they are slippery customersYonteng (talk) 20:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I recommend not closing this early. Although I favor keeping and I am skeptical of the nominator's motivations, I don't think there's harm in letting the discussion run its course. I can think of at least one established editor who will support the nomination to delete. --A. B.(talk • contribs) 23:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to know why people are so anxious to get you adminned up, it still reminds me of a kid with scissors who likes to run. A lot. treeloradda 16:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I dunno, but I'm still waiting for my box of Krispy Kremes from the last time I gave support. Yngvarr(t)(c) 20:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Good luck with that, if you do end up getting one expect a near empty box of doughnut holes with a few clam shell fragments. I speak from experience though he'd deny it, YOU CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON THEM OTTERS ALL THE TIME!! treeloradda 21:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
(merp) Huh, usually we'd have been replied to by now. This is what you get when you make friends with people who have passion and time to burn, us dilettantes get nothing from them, not even a doughnut holes box covered in paw prints with two left and they're both the crummy powered sugar type. treeloradda 16:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, TenPoundHammer. You have new messages at Talk:Big Bear Stores. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Would a song in the 1990's or 1980's that peaked lower than #10 deserve an article, or would they not be notable enough. Ryanbstevens (talk) 17:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey
Can we briefly semi-protect the Eurovision Song Contest winners page? People are already scrambling to update results that are not yet official. I'm watching the show on the Web site myself as I type, BTW. =) CycloneGU (talk) 21:51, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Whoops - thought you were an admin. Please ignore that. I will update the page myself the moment it's done, in any case - I may post the points table. CycloneGU (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Pipe links
What are you talking about? I haven't edited that page in months.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
May 9 was the last time you told me about piping links.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
It's okay. As soon as I finish Spirit Dancer, I'm going to start working on the missing Ronnie Milsap albums. I will be sure to pipe my links.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Edit summary
HelloYour recent edit to Cracked Rear View contains a virtually unintelligible edit summary. I think that you're delinking John Nau, but I don't know why; it seems like having a link to him is valid according to WP:REDLINK. If you wish to respond, please do so on my talk. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Help!
Alrighty, this has been bugging me forever! And I've asked your assistance on this matter before. I still don't have the reverting edits thing down yet. Wikipedia:Reverting didn't help that much. I'm trying to do like what you did here, but I can't seem to do it on my own. Could help...again? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
But I already have Twinkle on my gadgets selected. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Umm nope! Unless I'm just not looking in the right spot. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
No, nothing is different at all when I do it. I even went to the rollback page I think and made a monobook with the text it said to copy and save it. But nothing different happened. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
k, I did. I don't get what the problem could be? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
But I just created the monobook like 5 minutes ago, if that. I did exactly what it said to do and it said it should work after I save the monobook with the code. But it didn't...EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 02:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Country music
I'm curious on the country music question... are alt-country style offerings within your request? Ryan Adams (AT TIMES), or Drive by Truckers, or even Dylan? Outside of that sphere I don't know much.
Also, if you ever [want to] come up for admin again, drop me a line. I'm annoyed you're not in there yet. Shadowjams (talk) 06:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Make It Home
Hey, I was just tossing websites off the top of my head. I wouldn't call Amazon unreliable, it's just too commercial. Publichall (talk) 10:59, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Nudge the user with a clue-bat
Re: the silly episodes AfD, do you think you could try some nudging? Another voice might add to the message! Thanks. ╟─TreasuryTag►contribs─╢ 11:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Jolly good show, let's hope it works! ╟─TreasuryTag►contribs─╢ 11:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
hi there, pls reply to me asap. thanks. warmest regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreams20 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Khymera
Ah, thanks for tagging the page. I'm pretty sure I completed the process of deleting it though :S NPervez (talk) 14:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Re: Jeopardy!
Sorry, not worth the hassle anymore. Sottolacqua (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Glen Campbell discography
Hi TenPoundHammer,
I saw your remark on the Glen Campbell discography page. I have reread the guideline you mentioned and compared with other discographies, including ones you edited, but I could not find something that is "way, way afoul" of those guidelines. Could you please some examples of what you mean? I would be happy to rewrite the parts that need improvement.
Please note I've nom'd two others so far, and will probably continue to. There's a lot of crufty nonsense there. ThuranX (talk) 02:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it's the comment AFTER your 'bwuh', in which he makes the suggestion of collusion. "You did not nominate the MASH pilot, that was completed by 10 PoundHammer and you started on deletion of season two before you finished nomination of all of season one. " he says, implying that you 'completed' my actions in some bizarre way. ThuranX (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
I guess I read it differently, having already once been a victim of his antics. AN thread is up to you. Since he commented against me in the thread about me, any actions I take against him for his behaviors will be portrayed as tit-for-tat or vengeful, no doubt. ThuranX (talk) 20:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
No sooner do I complete my reply to you than I see that he's again at it, carefully crafting his words to reflect hidden machinations on your, or our, part. Go look. He could have quite easily said 'oh, I'm wrong, Ten Pound did nominate that on his own', but instead he continues to use 'completed', implying that you worked with me to 'finish' something, perhaps the first season. I'm really getting tired of his attempts to poison the entire AfD set there. ThuranX (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Categories to look at
Hey there TenPoundHammer, I know you work extensively in categories and I was wondering it you could take a look at Category:Singers by time period and its sub-categories. They're probably best to be deleted, but I just wanted to make sure. — Σxplicit 20:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Can you believe a year has passed by already since the last time I needed your help? Editors have made many changes to the subject BLP, but there has been little improvement.
I´m hoping you will have the experience to place the images [34] & [35] into the current version of the BLP with the appropriate tags.
Unfortunately you did not read the Talk link above. I came to you requesting you put the images in the Subject Biography, not nominate them for deletion.
I am the sole owner of both images. There is no copyright restricting their use whatsoever. If I knew the proper tag to attach to them, I wouldn´t need your help. The tag currently attached to them outside the article gives all the information necessary. I OWN THE IMAGES 100%. If THERE IS A COPYRIGHT, I OWN IT. I HEREBY RELEASE BOTH IMAGES INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN UNDER THE GNU FREE LICENSING. What more is required to satisfy Wikipedia?
Thank you Ten Pounder. Now if you would please post them in the Article, I would be most grateful. The current photo was a gift on turning 65 on May 21 this Thursday. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I suppose the current photo should be near the intro somewhere and the poster belongs in the Section: Early Life and Conversion It´s funny! You thought it was a hi-res scan and I think it´s a low-res scan.
When you find the time to read offsite, check out this. I wrote a letter to CNN last year thinking it was for internal CNN use, but to my surprise I found it online last Tuesday. Because it is a iReport, after reading the main story. click MORE under my comments starting with comment 1 then moving up to The Way to Kansas City, .1, .2, &.3. Hope you like this part of my biography.
Thanks again, Ray DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Much appreciated, Ten Pounder. In my opinion, this is the first real improvement to the Article since July last year. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 19:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, could you reply my msg asap. Thanks a lot. Dreams20 (talk) 12:20, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Love & Gravity
I know this is getting old but I'd really appreciate it if you removed the tag on the article. There are currently 27 sources and I don't think I can find any more. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
All but one of their singles were credited to The Geezinslaw Brothers. Eric444 (talk) 13:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Swap. My help for your advice!
TPH, I was wondering if I could offer you a swap? You point me in the direction of a new Country stub you need, and you can help me with an odd problem I have? I'll assume you say yes and write about my problem!
Puebla F.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is a perfectly normal looking page, I'm not sure how I came across it, but I did. An editor was having a problem with an IP editor who keeps adding a whole chunk of information (doubles the page size from 13ish kb to 30+ kb) which is unsourced and poorly written, but could well be correct and useful. I've been watching the page for a few days now and seem to have taken over from the previous editor in reverting the additions, on the basis they are unsourced and might be OR. I have posted numerous messages on the IP's talk page 76.235.130.49 (talk·contribs) but can't get a response, and an RfC on the talk page has drawn zero attention. What steps should I take from here to look after this article, encourage the IP editor to play the wp game and generally make the place a bit nicer?! TIA, Bigger digger (talk) 23:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Following your assistance I've picked out an article and looked up some sources. Could you have a look at Talk:Billy Gilman#Sources and briefly comment on their suitability? Cheers, Bigger digger (talk) 21:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Make It Home
The information actually was in the link. Look under "Moods" on the left side.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
That doesn't count. It's still a directory listing and is trivial. No other article mentions the moods that Allmusic uses, and they shouldn't. There are no significant sources at all. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 00:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
"In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable (which Dan Seals is), then officially released albums (which Make It Home is) may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." (WP:NALBUMS) I feel the directories do verify the album's existence, and mentions in the press verify the album's notability. I don't understand why a "review" must exist to prove an album's notability. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Track lyrics and listings are not trivial information, neither are commentaries on the album's mood and style. The information about 1990 is to help explain the context of the album and that the performer was at the end of his career. I probably would've voted to keep the Collin Raye album, because I assume at the least the above information was available and it applies to the principle I quoted. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 00:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
You can't claim the article can't be expanded because it can, descriptions of the content can be added from track lyrics from CMT. And wikipedia is not a democracy, thankfully, and I don't believe the votes are a reflection of wikipedia policy. This isn't some garage band or a non-notable individual, its Dan Seals.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
By just explaining what the songs are about, and not going any further, like a synopsis.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:18, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Why? It's a legitimate use of a primary source.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
The cutoff should be at whether enough reliable sources exist to create an article that can be more than a track list. If the lyrics are available at a reliable source, and if the album is documented in several directories, then an article that is more than a track list can be created.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 04:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I did some measuring, and Blackhawk's page is long enough to split. They have had enough singles and albums, and their biography's long enough to split. Like i said, i did some measuring, and artist's pages such as Phil Vassar and Craig Morgan have been splitted, and this page (the biography) is about the same length, which is long enough to split. Would you agree or oppose this split? I already put it on the band article's talkpage, so you can comment there if you'd like. Ryanbstevens (talk) 02:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Help offered
After your advice above, I've offered to have a look at Billy Gilman. As requested above, but possibly missed by you, could you just quickly comment on the sources at Talk:Billy Gilman#Sources. I can write an article, and copyedit, but my confidence in country music reliable sources is not so good! Bigger digger (talk) 12:07, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Gwinhurst, Delaware
Just curious why you think this community doesn't deserve an article, seeing that longstanding consensus has held that all communities are notable? Nyttend (talk) 18:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I've made a policy-based argument at the AFD; would you please revisit it and respond, either by changing your vote or explaining why you continue to believe that it shouldn't remain a separate article? Nyttend (talk) 21:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
AFD repair
Thanks for that repair work, I wasn't sure what I had done wrong there. Alastairward (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the message on my talk page. I know I'm not currently actively editing Wikipedia (mostly due to time limitations), but I do try and keep up. :-) Jude (talk) 05:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I fixed the Stew Herrera WP:AFD for you. You forgot to include "subst:" in the formula when you first initiated the WP:AFD for Herrera and the "this article's entry" prompt was thus still red-linked.
Yours, [email protected] (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey - can you explain what "Glitchy Twinkle is glitchy. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat" means? I have no idea what you're talking about. [email protected] (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
According the tag at the bottom of my post which was incorrectly (and rudely) deleted, it states that I can request the page. Can you please send it to me? Thank You.
Nedla detsmlo (talk) 16:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Infobox musical artist
I've seen you edit {{Infobox Musical artist}} a lot. Do you think that a bot could be made that points out blank or incorrect "background" fields? I've seen tons and tons of blank or incorrect entries in the "background" field, and having a bot find them all in one fell swoop would be a great idea in my opinion. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 03:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply; I had real-life matters to attend to. The bot sounds like a good idea, even though, if I'm not mistaken, there is a bot for that purpose already running around somewhere. You should raise the isse on the infobox talk page, or at the project talk at Wikipedia:WikiProject Music. I've had expreiences there, but none were particularly pleasant. Orane(talk)
Hello. I strongly urge you to avoid stuff like "slobbering fanboy" in these discussions. Please focus on the articles and not readers/editors. Also, given the existence of a ride of the same name at multiple amusement parks, I think a valid case could/should at least be made for a redirect in at least this one's case. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 00:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I warned him about using that term, it might be accurate to some extent but it's not for someone of some kind of repute to be saying, dilettante idiots like me might get away with it but not you. Sometimes I wonder if Cheyenne shouldn't be circling closer to home, can't be having a bat of clues without knowing what clues the bat dispenses... or something. treeloradda 00:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Cheyenne's too busy clue-batting others to clue-bat me. Maybe I need a second clue-bat? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 00:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I think so, six otters and only one bat seems a bit unfair. Anyway, you do seem to need it given now your stand for el presidénte admin has been kicked way back to 2010 now and likely to creep to 2011 then never. treeloradda 09:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Userboxes
On userboxes, is there a way to find images that are legal to use? I did notice images on three of my userboxes disappearing, and was wondering if i should find some images on my own, and uploading them onto the userbox, and of course put the right type of copyright license. Ryanbstevens (talk) 00:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
One more question. What was wrong with those images that i had put in there before they were removed? Ryanbstevens (talk) 01:04, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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Yes, I see here about your weary complaint. There are some of us who care for you, but not retail stiores. LOL. Bearian (talk) 20:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Nobody will help me destroy oddly formed fanwank lists but you don't see me over-using <big> tags like a kid with a new word. treeloradda 21:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
For the Love (Tracy Lawrence album)
I have put up all of the songwriters for every song on Tracy Lawrence's For the Love album. The only two songs that I did not put the songwriters on were the B-Sides, for which I do not know who wrote those. --Tristinarocks (talk) 18:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
The Oak Ridge Boys albums
Should the "The" be included? The reason I didn't include it on The Boys Are Back (Oak Ridge Boys album) was because I noticed that all the other Oak Ridge Boys albums were formated without the "The" [36]. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm in Pikeville, Kentucky right now, and i'm going to go see Jason Aldean at the Expo Center tonight. If i manage to get a picture of him, would it be appropriate for use on Wikipedia? (By the way, thanks for the happy birthday message. It really means a lot.) Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Yup, just license it correctly and that'll be great. Come to me if you need help with licensing, this goober knows little about licenses. treeloradda 22:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for pinch hitting for me, Treelo. I was out of town most of yesterday. Yeah, that would definitely be acceptable. Just tell me when you've uploaded the image and I'll help you pick a license. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 13:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Please check an article's history before you add a speedy tag. You never know what you might find. In the past, I have found previous revisions that asserted notability when the current version did not. Also, if you disagree with an admin's assessment, re-adding a speedy tag can be viewed as admin-shopping. Not a good idea. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 17:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Non-charting singles aren't listed in the Whitburn book, unfortunately. The best places to verify them are LP Discography or Rocky 52. Eric444 (talk) 11:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Deana Carter
I disagree, because even though it peaked low, there's enough to be said about it, in my opinion. Expanded her actual artist page is a great idea, but you can't expand it with information on a song. Besides, "Angels Working Overtime" wasn't a stub - it was quite full of info. I'll try to find some sources. CloversMallRat (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know I went ahead and expanded Deana Carter's arist page =) It is now relatively long and contains much more detail CloversMallRat (talk) 06:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I'd rather it be in its own, seperate page where it belongs. The song didn't peak as high as some of her others, but compare the length in that article to her No. 1 hit "We Danced Anyway" - it really is suitable for a page, despite the lower peak. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Question re Number one singles in Canada category
Since you were the nominator for this category deletion, I just wanted to check in with you for a question. I've moved a few of the constituents to the correct category per the split. However, as I've been going, I noticed that there are sub-categories here as well, including the three to which the individual articles are being moved. Did you have thoughts about where the sub-categories should be moved, or were you less interested in deleting the category itself than you were in just making sure everything was sub-categorized? Mlaffs (talk) 18:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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DRV
I have challenged the CfD of :Category:Fast Folk artists, which you nominated again for deletion last month, at WP:DRV. Chubbles (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thank you for offering to help, I think I fixed it
the afd script doesn't work I've noticed (loss of session data)Thisglad (talk) 16:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Home (Michael Bublé song)
May I ask what's wrong with my formatting of this article? I think that it makes more sense to have an intro that summarizes all three versions, a section for Bublé's version, a section for Westlife's and a section for Shelton's. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
That's simply not how it works. The song is not an independent entity. It is owned and copyrighted by the original artist, and other artists pay/ask to sing their interpretation of the original. It is Wikipedia convention to mention the original version first, then separate additional versions later in the article. I also think this version is best. See "Jai Ho", "Against All Odds", "Without You", "Ain't No Mountain High Enough", "Open Arms", and basically every other song that has been resung. As, such, I'll revert your edit to the Buble's version. Orane(talk) 23:04, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
If you feel strongly about this, you may wish to bring up the issue at WP:Wikiproject Music. Orane(talk) 23:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Told otherwise by who? That's how I've always known it to be. Orane(talk) 23:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
So if you don't want to use the term, "sophomore slump" (which makes sense to me, being as its used in reviews and what not), then you should provide an alternative. Please feel free to change it to something else when you edit it next time. CloversMallRat (talk) 00:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Music Barnstar
For your outstanding and almost single-handed dedication to creating country music articles in Wikipedia, I award you the Music Barnstar. Congratulations! Chris (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
TPH, I noticed that you had put a headah template on this article. It was a victim of some vandalism that got away from us, so the first section header was removed. I solved it by going way back, to an early-May version, just to be safe, so that removed your template. Thanks, if you hadn't had done that, the bad version would've continued. So you helped me catch it! This article gets a moderate level of vandalism, so no administrator thinks it's bad enough to need protection, so this happens from time to time. And it seems to get the most juvenile of vandalism, too. Thanks again. --Christine (talk) 14:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I'll help you with Zim! I know a source that may state more about Zim, BTW. A book by Jerry Beck, Not Just Cartoons: Nicktoons!, may have some info on it. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Non-Admin snow closure?
I think you have been too hasty closing the AfD on Enectali Figueroa. My nomination was in good faith, and I expected to have some debate. I presented evidence that his h-index failed WP:PROF, and that he was not the pioneer of the type of sensor clamed in the article. As "Enectali Figueroa" he has three Google News hits, none of which say much, and as "Figueroa-Feliciano", none. The wave of Keeps was to be expected when the AfD was listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Puerto Rico, but aside from David Shankbone we did not hear from the Wikipedia community-at-large. Also, there was a not-vote for deletion on the Talk Page of the article that predated the AfD, indicating that somebody besides me thought this article was questionable. Thank you, Joey the Mango (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Forthcoming band article
I know you despair at the contentless "forthcoming album" articles we get: how's this for the entire content of a "forthcoming band" article which was speedied this afternoon:
The Sound Of Perseverance is an uncreated Progressive Metal band from Monroe, Louisiana. They hope to find members and write songs in the future, but the actual formation of the band could be unsuccessful.(the name may change in time as well.)
We maybe need a corollary to WP:HAMMER to say that if a band hasn't finished recruiting its article is unlikely to survive. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
R&R and Mediabase
R&R is ceased. Should we use Mediabase instead? Canada is now chartless, and I think we can trust Mediabase. Langdon (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080
I did not mean US, because thay have Billboard. But why don't we use Mediabase? Well, before Billboard and R&R merged, R&R is like Mediabase right now, but we approve its Canadian country positions. Also, 2 charts are extremely similar for the Top 20, or even Top 30. Please tell we why we shouldn't use mediabase. Langdon (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080
Chasin' the Sun
Would you like it listed under personnel or in the infobox? Publichall (talk) 00:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Music articles to be created
What about Rob Hajacos (fiddler)? he played on many country albums in the early 1990's. I know nothing about him, I was just making a suggestion for your list. Publichall (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Guidance
Hammer,
JClemens suggested that I should talk to you in seeking guidance about deletion, AfD, redirects, etc. So I'll start by broadly asking for guidance in general. I primarily ask because I've apparently been a hair too zealous (I know I have jumped the gun once or twice at what looked like a hoax on first glance) and could probably use some. Thank you very much.Tyrenon (talk) 20:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Exactly how many does your keyboard have?! ZabMilenko 08:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Wait! How can a man with a article rescue barnie also have a barnie for reliable deletionism? This would usually set things in balance given the minor panic induced last time by inclusionist slurs being popped around but I'm not feeling that it's forthcoming. treeloradda 08:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Deletionism does not imply recklessness (the meta:Association of Deletionist Wikipedians would be offended at the thought). I have learned quite alot reading TPH's WP:XFD stuff over the last month and have nothing but respect behind this award. ZabMilenko 09:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Buuuuuut it's nothing to do with his reckless abandon with the wifflebat of deletion, it's to do with him being liked by both somewhat opposing factions. How can this be? One cannot be considered one of both as he is then of neither... or something. treeloradda 09:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Ahhhhh what you are proposing is a paradox for pondering! ZabMilenko 09:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Indeedy do, it's them Article Rescue types who dropped him a barnie a while back and usually what gets slapped with the rescue tag is that which would get a speedy tag from the opposite side. So when someone who is a reliable deletionist gets praise from someone of the AIW ilk you wonder how and if you'll still be here tomorrow should the universe not kill itself. treeloradda 10:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
You fools! You have no possible idea what power you toy with! Yngvarr(t)(c) 12:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Invader Zim
I'll take a look at the article to see what else it needs (besides sources) WhisperToMe (talk) 01:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I would not use it as a source. In general fansites are not reliable sources. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Do you know if Jhonen Vasquez has a website? You could use web.archive.org to see if he said any additional information about the series. Also did you check out the Not Just Nicktoons book? WhisperToMe (talk) 23:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Real life took me away before the PR was finished. I'll complete the job this evening and post everything to the PR page. Finetooth (talk) 23:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I just posted the complete review to PR. I'm glad to hear the good news about the photo. Finetooth (talk) 01:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Mohawk Mall
Hi, regarding the Mohawk Mall article, the reason it had a qualifier was because there are/were multiple malls by that name. At this point I am not aware of any of the others having a Wikipedia article. That could obviously change in the future. I have no problem leaving it as is (without the qualifier), but thoughts on whether it would be better to have the qualifier to be prepared? Yx7791 (talk) 01:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Also, just noticed the message on my talk page. You know, I spent hours and hours of research listing the tenants. It is the history of the place. Without tenants, a mall is just a shell and ultimately faces demolition. For those interested in retail history in the NY Capital Region, it was made available. Clearly, it was a total waste of my time. There are plenty of places on Wikipedia where there are lists that could never be complete. I can see why people get frustrated with Wikipedia with these kinds of ridiculous policies. This was not vandalism; it was well-researched information and I strongly take exception to its removal. However, it is obvious my well-researched contributions are unwelcome here. In the future, unless there is some serious need to correct something blatantly inaccurate here on Wikipedia, when I feel the need to post well-referenced historical information, I will make it available on an alternative web site (one which lacks so many bureaucratic rules and lacks the reputation for so much inaccurate information!). Yx7791 (talk) 01:24, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
It's not a question of being let down; it's a situation of hours of sourced historical research being wasted. I started it out as prose and found it was too boring. As a historical researcher, I like to know opening/closing dates and that's too messy in prose. Regardless, I see numerous lists of information that could never be complete on Wikipedia. If it's a policy not to have these, then they should all be removed. It's not like a sentence was reworded or something; it was a major section which listed the components of a place with historical opening/closing dates that was fully sourced which was removed. I do not have the time or interest in contributing to a site with these kinds of ridiculous rules. Having been a message board moderator on several sites, I'm all for common sense rules and keeping things in order. I understand there are tough calls to make. This, however, is not common sense. But, it's your call. It's my call to choose to make my well-sourced contributions elsewhere. Yx7791 (talk) 01:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for putting the information back. I appreciate it. The important point is that it is available as it is history for the area. While I believe the list format works better to clearly provide dates and/or other notes where available, I'm certainly interested in seeing someone else's way of doing it in prose, provided the same information can be retained. I will resume contributions as time permits. Yx7791 (talk) 02:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
By the way, sorry for confusing you as an admin. I assumed you were and had I realized you were not I would have approached the situation differently. We do have a number of things in common in that I am a conservative, like country music, and am interested in dead malls. Yx7791 (talk) 03:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, can you list the notified parties for the above FLRC as described at WP:FLRC? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Replied on my talk. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
When I Get Where I'm Going - cover
I don't think this single ever was issued with cover art but I do have an image of the back cover and disc (ebay). Would either of these suffice as a placeholder? Publichall (talk) 03:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Paisley's song "Alchohol" does have a cover (similar to the one for "Ticks" but I haven't found a good enough quality scan to use so just leave it blank after the old image is deleted. Publichall (talk) 03:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Big Green Tractor
My article on "Big Green Tractor" has been nominated for deletion. There's nothing wrong with it, and it's just like every other song article. The song is moving quick enough up the charts to have an article. Could you please help me save the article? Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I dont typicaly deal with music articles, but wp:NSONGS seems to direct us not to create articles about specific songs. In any event, the article itself lists the songs peak at #30, hardly a chart burner. If im wrong about my reading of song notability feel free to say so on my talk page, as I said, im new at new page patrolling. Thanks Bonewah (talk) 19:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes That's my understanding: they should be named ...(1998 album) and ...(2005 album), rather than ...(1998 Garth Brooks box set on Columbia Records) or somesuch; use the most generic name you can. E.g. Join Together (1982 album) and Join Together (1990 album). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Done I moved both. I'm not 100% sure why you wanted me to do it—I don't have special moving privileges—but I'm happy to help. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Bruce Van De Velde
Your speedy was declined on Bruce Van De Velde, the AfD is still running if you'd like to chime in. Gigs (talk) 23:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Spotsylvania Towne Centre
Hey TPH...
You have Spotsylvania Town Centre listed on your main user page as a redlink, but you're missing an 'e' to point to the correct article. There was already something there, but I just overhauled it because it was 99% advert, .5% infobox, and .5% bad lead. It's still a rather spartian article, and the local paper, the Free Lance Star, loves to write about it (www.fredericksburg.com has most of the paper's articles archived) if you want to dig around for more info. I'd remove it from your talk page, but I'm kinda fussy against editing other people's user pages, even if they give the OK. :)
If you want to collaborate on this some more I'd be happy to, but Cafaro has one of the most uninformative websites ever, and the searching/indexing ability of the Free Lance Star isn't much better. I lothe research, so I'm tapping out for now, but I'll gladly write prose if you come up with some good sourced info.
Take care and see 'ya around XfD. Livitup (talk) 16:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
AfD
Hey, thanks for closing. I really need to get into AfD. Sorry for any disruption, I'll try to evaluate better next time. Cheers, ZooFari 19:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
DYK nomination of It's Your Song
Hello! Your submission of It's Your Song at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3talk 20:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien episodes. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tavix | Talk 15:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
The article looks good and the hook is almost good. The only minor issue is that there was something added to the article stating that Strait wrote 4 songs for Ace in the Hole. But if you are ok with adding the word "solo" to the hook, it should be good to go. Rlendog (talk) 21:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Look at Strait Out of the Box, the first three songs were written by Strait. I think it should be noted in "Living for the Night" that he did in fact write these songs. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Re:Rollercoaster (Phineas and Ferb) DYK
Hm, I believe I choose that as a second ref because it mentioned the pitch in it. I don't believe anything but the DVD extra mentions it, though there is a podcast interview. I'll check and cite that if it's needed. The Flash{talk} 23:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. The hook you wrote for DYK concerning the article, United Methodist Hymnal, is 216 characters. 200 is generally considered the limit; would it be possible to shorten it? Thanks, TheEarwig(Talk | Editor review) 03:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Pop 100 closed
Starting this week Billboard closed Pop 100 chart. There are some changes in rock genre, and Billboard is not picking up Canadian charts. I know that the chart pages from R&R are still on, but who knows when they will disappear? And the closure of Pop 100 has proven that Pop 100 is not significant - not as important as Hot 100. I think we should drop Pop 100 from discographies, espically country ones. Langdon (talk) 03:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080
I did have problems with AC charts before. I wonder why in pop genre, only AC charts can be included. Mainstream actually have more audience and have more impact on Hot 100, but it is forbidden to list it. And I don't know the significance of Pop 100. The only thing I know is that Pop 100 was created for those Pop listeners who complained only R&B songs reached #1 on Hot 100. Also, the chart only represents Pop genre, so why bother listing it if the highest chart entry for a country artist is #90 or lower? Langdon (talk) 04:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)i7114080
Ok then, I will re-add Hot AC and CHR positions for country artist, since Pop 100 is listed.
Orphaned non-free media (File:Mila sgw.jpg)
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DYK for Walk on Faith
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Disneymania/Sher'quan Johnson Vandal
A SPI is definitely needed. AIV has been very touchy about blocking any of their socks (aka either 'no proof' or 'they haven't vandalized in X hours'), even with proof of the many AfD's that have occured with him over the last seven months. Nate•(chatter) 03:50, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry
I replied your talk now. I can not reply that anymore because i online rarely MuhammadAzmi 12:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Okie, Let's Figure This Out
You cut out about six Kenny Rogers albums due to them not being considered notable, and in a later comment on my talk page said to look at the label to make a call on an album in the future. I'm now looking at the AllMusic compilation page for Bonnie Tyler. There are too many in the list, so which of these would you consider worth writing an article about?
I'm going to automatically choose any with checkmarks because they are being listed as Album Picks, which tells me they are potentially important inclusions (and obviously reviewed). If any are not (such as the 1996 compilation by Castle - aren't they one of the budget labels?), I'd love to discuss your views on why before I see a future article AfDed. Can you review the list at AllMusic and tell me what you think? The list is at http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3ifwxqr5ldde~T21 - and thanx. =) Plz reply on your talk page, I'll be refreshing it. CycloneGU (talk) 23:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Reply copied from CycloneGU's talk page for reference.
I usually go with the ones that have ratings and/or are on major labels. By that standard, everything before "Love Collection" is good, and from there just skip the ones without star ratings and the CBS ones. I've checked and found that most of the ones without ratings turn up virtually no hits. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 04:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
All right, I'm going to then make a point of listing compilation albums under certain conditions, then.
1) As you recommend, skipping without ratings. Already planned this one as well.
2) I need to recognize the label. If the album art looks like a budget CD, I may also use that with the label listed.
3) I will not list ones that AllMusic doesn't have a track listing for. What's the point? If I think one is otherwise important, I'll add it after finding another reference.
4) If it's not reviewed, I question whether it should be added. Thus, I'll skip those for now. I'll make exceptions, though, if it's obviously a major release; see Comeback: Single Collection, '90-'94 for instance, which will be included eventually.
5) If it meets the above criteria, my final criteria is whether I feel like creating it.[/humour] In other words, do I have enough compilations that are more notable compared to this one, etc.
Hopefully this limits the number of compilation albums on the page, we don't need all 24 of those (through 2000 alone, not counting after). I've already cut a couple from my list, one based on the album cover (which resembles a budget CD image and seems to be one of those labels). CycloneGU (talk) 00:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
My bad syntax, LOL. Bearian (talk) 15:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Feh, I've heard better humour but if he-who-is-verdy-verdy-serius-biznus is making funnies then fine. treeloradda 15:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
That one was Cheyenne's idea. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 15:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Heh, I thought it was funny...sounds like something I'd say. Disgusting indeed. CycloneGU (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Protest
This is flat-out wrong, I think you do an excellent job. Tim Vickers (talk) 03:05, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
AfD comment on Cinemagik
Agreed, if sourced then there may be some semblance of keeping the article. But it's not, and if you take a look at the page history, you'll see that it really has been a random listing of programs. SpikeJones (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
DYK for It's Your Song
On June 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article It's Your Song, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Actually, until someone mentioned it in the AfD WP:MUSIC, I had no idea that was a passing factor. Thanks though. Can I close the AfD, could you close it as WP:SNOW, or should I just let it run the course? Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of that. I'll have to keep in mind a bit more before I AfD something in the future. What are some of the various subject guidelines for Notability I should look over before I AfD anything else? Thanks Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 13:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Harikela on AfD
The AfD was created but not listed on the day's logs which I did now. Can you check if it's ok or if I goofed up, since you seem to be the red linked AfD expert? Thanks -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 00:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Re:Phineas and Ferb
Every ref is using the Cite web template. Check again if you don't believe me. The Flash{talk} 01:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah, so pretty much name the website it's from? Okay. I'll gradually work on that, as due to the exceedingly large backlog on the GA nomination page, it'll take some time for it to be reviewed. Thanks. The Flash{talk} 01:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: File:Big Jack Jackson.jpg
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You closed this deletion as SNOW but it is not fit the things it says there so reopen it and the other ones which are Harikela and Govindachandra . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janc6 (talk • contribs) 10:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Heroes Wear Red
Please do not delete "Heroes Wear Red" wikipedia article, that would be extremely upseting. They are a notable band, there exclusive to South Africa. Please leave the article as is, I'm still finding sources.
Agreed. They definitely fulfil the criteria for notability in terms of WP:MUSIC. this deletion nomination was premature and incorrect. Please correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.208.40.67 (talk) 10:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Family Business (album)
I have replied to your comment. Please read it. Ale_Jrbtalk 18:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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I'm blaming Gorgy for the break in proceedings, he has been reprimanded suitably under Extraordinary Rendition terms to a place only of my knowledge. treeloradda 19:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Of course, they do deserve articles. I will start making pages tonight for them. By the way, if you can find single covers for any major hits by any country artist that doesn't have one, feel free to add them because they are not apparent on most articles and I cannot find any. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I only picked the ones I was more familiar with (I don't know too many Martina McBride songs, except the more current ones). If I do make an article to "Life #9," I will do what you had said, but I might stick with the more recent ones that I'm more familiar with. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 00:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Since you're a regular at AfD discussions, I thought you might be interested in this discussion I have just initiated. -- Blanchardb-Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 23:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
AfD on Soviet Union and state terrorism dab page
Please see my note and P.S. on the nomination page. The dab is simpler and neater than hatnotes given the topic. PetersVTALK 02:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Hey thanks, I'll use that template from now on. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 17:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, that's been taken care of. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 21:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Boo
Yeah, I'm just a bit bored... sorry. :) TubularWorld (talk) 22:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I'm bored too. Lost my job two days ago and I also like country music, so I follow you too TPH. That's why I always ask you for advice (or chime in every once in a while, LMAO). =) CycloneGU (talk) 03:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid I feel the need to request that you stop attempting to police WP:TFD and keep your actions there to nominations/discussion. You continue to improperly close discussions using {{Tfd top}} and {{Tfd bottom}}, and have recently relisted a template ({{Invader Zim}}) both incorrectly and for an improper reason. While your eagerness to help out is both admirable and appreciated, it is not necessary. Thank you. JPG-GR (talk) 05:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
How come you put in a REDIR without any discussion? Or did I miss something? Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
LOL, we agreed for once
Feel free to drop by my talk page if you find stuff like that (i.e. that qualifies for bold userfication) and deletion of the leftover bits - to avoid going thru MFD. P.S. You should register User:TPH as a doppel and shortcut - I'm lazy. cheers, –xenotalk 17:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, wow! I thought that "One in a Lifetime" was the worst single he's put out. I kinda like "Kiss a Girl", but I do agree, it's a little too pop. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Billboard categories
Hello, thanks for adding the Modern Rock → Alternative category rename. I had to read so much of that procedure I almost went cross-eyed, and I'm glad it apparently worked. Other than the two we've proposed, are you aware of any other Billboard charts that were renamed that might affect existing categories? Zephyrnthesky (talk) 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: Speedy deletion nomination of File:File-Alistairdarling.jpg
FWIW, I play keys at church on Sundays as well. If you haven't seen the photo on my user page, take a look.
I'd like to suggest that you refrain from db-tagging articles already under consideration at AFD. It rarely helps. If someone else has already gone to the trouble to list something at AFD, you might find it more effective to comment there.
Also, you might find my talk page amusing. There are several users taking me to task for being such a deletionist. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Take a look at the hymn medley and at the prelude portion of the G minor prelude in the 8. You can leave off the fugue and just play the prelude. My daughter can play it and she's only 10, so you can too. The Brahms chorale is a good one to look at if you don't use pedals, since it does not require them (well, except for one note). The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Chiropractic controversy and criticism
...."no one else could be arsed as usual." Actually, you saw I was on it. I am now here to ask you to post the text, as it has now been posted by the ip on his talk page in response to my express offer to create it for him if he provided the text, which would already be done, seamlessly with the text in place, except that now there's no way for me to overwrite your message properly, so you should do it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
To do this properly I will have to overwrite your post. All it should say is the IP's text, followed by "procedural nomination for Ip___, just as I posted on his talk page. I don't overwrite people's posts without permission. So either you do it, or give me permission. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, since you seem to be away, I will do so, and assume you will not mind.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
AFD / Deaf Havana
On the AFD page you comment "The above user has yet to prove that said sources exist" What is the best way to prove these sources exist? I have hard copies of the Magazines which I have referenced fully on the page including issue and page numbers. I would like to prove notability for this page, but I am fairly new to wikipedia so could you possibly tell me the steps that I need to take to prove these sources exist, I believed a reference was sufficient? Many Thanks As far as mongolia (talk) 08:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Gary Alt (American musician)
Can you take a look at Gary Alt (American musician)? I normally stay away from music/musicians, but this one I thought was a bit straightforward so I PRODded, but it was unPRODded saying that the artist has released several albums. I'm still not convinced, but just wanted to check what you think. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 15:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: Ron Chancey
Understood dude.
It's cool.
Izzy007Talk 16:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for fixing my bungled AfD. LuvGoldStar (talk) 18:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
He's already in an encyclopedia. In-depth enough? diffSchmidt,MICHAEL Q. 08:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I've now given the article a cleanup, expansion, and decent sourcing. Might you consider a wirthdrawal? Schmidt,MICHAEL Q. 09:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't you worry none, I'll see what I can do... treeloradda 09:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the supportive input. It was a pleasure to be able to improve it. Schmidt,MICHAEL Q. 07:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Stephanie Davis
On June 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stephanie Davis, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
While surfing around, I noticed that Otterathome claims that you're one of his/her sockpuppets. It seemed a little fishy to me so I thought I'd let you know. Out of curiosity, is it true? OlYellerTalktome 15:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Me and TenPoundHammer are the same person who control a network of user accounts, infact, most of the messages left on this page are actually all the same person.--Otterathome (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
This is true. treeloradda 19:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
A while back I searched for "Confirmed tracks". It's a search that is worth doing on occasion. Two even more informative searches that are worth doing on occasion are searches for "Rumoured tracks"/"Rumored tracks". They bring up such doozies as Love, Tweet, which tells innocent readers such as me the mutually contradictory facts that the subject was confirmed as released last year and is scheduled for release this year.
I highly recommend these searches. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
More A9s
PleaseThe Endless (band) and Rolo Tomassi both have a number of albums/singles (almost all of them entirely unsourced and malformed.) They should be simple dbs. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Tagging I just figured it would be 1.) easier to notify you than tagging all of them, 2.) you could delete them outright instead of me waiting for another sysop to see them, and 3.) it would be less perilous, should someone go around removing db tags and me not notice (which apparently happened when someone decided that the db tag applied to Rolo Tomassi's afd that was too old.) Anyway... —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh bother I get confused for one as well, I guess because we've been around for years and edited a lot. I've even been asked to arbitrate disputes. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
This Bonnie Tyler album is confusing me. I have a torrent source referencing one version of the album, released in the U.K. I have an eBay seller's page referencing the other, from France. They have the same artwork and the same title, hence why I've placed them together. What do you think? The Best Bonnie Tyler is the other page that has the U.K. edition, and I'm considering deletion of it (already took it off the discography NEway as it's not from 1994, but 1993). The fact that neither page on Wikipedia was sourced or even had an infobox to start with made this album very confusing to edit.
I also noticed a discussion on your talk page regarding Rodger Bumpass's article and clicked the article out of interest. I noticed no free image on it. I found this: http://en.spongepedia.bimserver.com/index.php?title=Image:Rodger_Bumpass.jpg It's another "pedia" site, do you think it would suffice for encyclopedia purposes if we also upload it here, or would it still be violationary? CycloneGU (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
That wiki is terrible if you want to use content, there's no licensing information and there's no sources for images so it's little more than a convoluted fansite, no good to us here. For biographies, it's generally accepted to use free images over non-free ones if the subject is still alive, given this image doesn't look too free (and is tiny to boot) I'd give it a miss. treeloradda 14:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I realize the sources are not considered valid sources, but the pages had already been created a year ago by someone and I am not sure myself of the information. Whoever added them listed the album as having a certification; if true, it should be easy to find. I unfortunately don't know [much] French and thus can't execute a proper search for things like certifications. I did find one of the albums on the French site, however, and could reference that for the tracklist. If you have an idea on where to go to find certifications in the meanwhile, treelo, feel free; if the information already provided is in fact false, I have no issue over the page being removed if necessary (I'm just using what I can find, that matches the information, to spruce it up as I'm currently working on Tyler's discography). I had a hard time looking for the #4 peak on the French charts, in fact, and both pages that existed for The Best listed that as the peak (see the other above, that one I already think I'll request deleted). The English chart I haven't verified yet (it was already there on the other page, I moved it to the combined page). As for Bumpass's image; isn't Spongepedia similar to Wikipedia? It even has a domain starting with "en." like we do. The only thing I can't see is information on the license to the image. CycloneGU (talk) 15:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
It looks like Secondarywaltz found a source that is valid for the U.K. version. I found one on last.fm (which is on his talk page; I will omit it here to avoid cluttering this discussion) that combines BOTH albums into one page; quite confusing, but proof that the other tracklist is valid as well. CycloneGU (talk) 17:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Hmm. They most likely are the same album. I'd say play it safe and merge. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Done. I actually speedied the unnecessary page just before you replied; now to see it away...=) BTW, how was your vacation? CycloneGU (talk) 17:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Was fun. Saw a river otter at the Chicago zoo, stayed at a ratty Howard Johnson's, went to a rather strangely laid-out mall, walked my tail off at Navy Pier... and found out the hard way that I-94 through Chicagoland is in a permanent state of traffic jam. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Since you're the expert..........to me anyway
And music isn't really my strong suit, would you please take a look at these two articles about upcoming albums and see if they are candidates for AfD? As I see them, they haven't been sourced by WP:RS's, but mainly by the artists website and myspace. I don't mind being bold and nominating, but I'd prefer not to waste people's time if I'm doing it because I misunderstood the criteria: The Art of Dying (Cashis album) and Euthanasia LP. Also, do you consider charting at 106 on Billboard to meet the criteria? Thanks in advance. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The one charting at #106 is that same artists first album. But there is also a claim about being #37 on the Heatseekers chart, but I don't know if that is considered notable enough or not. Thanks a lot of your input. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Please take back your nomination, see WP:BEFORE. Bearian (talk) 18:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey (again)
I'm still working on Bonnie Tyler; so far I'm up to and starting 1996, amidst my constant job search (lost my job a week and a half ago due to "overstaffing", which really sucks). I almost wrote a new article for "The Very Best of Bonnie Tyler (1996)" and caught myself suddenly when I found out that AllMusic - as with other artists - has two identical albums with two release dates that are exactly the same. Kind of an annoyance, aye. *LOL* One source said 1995 with the image that AllMusic has in the 1996 one, but the giants at AM have the 1995 album with no image and the same tracklist - plenty of giveaway there, makes you wonder who to believe nowadays.
BTW, these same giants have Jo Dee Messina as a performer on a 1956 CD which happens to contain an original version of "Burn", a single from her third CD in 2000. The humorous thing is that she was born in 1970. I'll watch to see if they ever fix that, I reported it. Look under Credits on her page, they haven't fixed it as of this msg. I even sent her a msg. on MySpace about it in case she gets a chuckle out of it. (Also, staying with the giants, the Kenny Rogers album Short Stories - I reported errors with it twice dating back to November 2008. They still haven't fixed it. Gotta love the giants. My editor's note remains on the article page.) CycloneGU (talk) 04:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
RE: Parkway Drive
Those articles pass WP:Songs, and furthermore, when redirecting so for future notice, you are supposed to link the redirect to the album it's from NOT the artist's article. - GunMetal Angel 01:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, ok, Allmusic is the best source for that material, you are right on the capitals issue, my bad but if your argument is that people can`t understand bckgr as background, is not enough, now i agree on making sure not more "musician" o "band member" comes up, but sorry, is not that i want to do things my way, is just that i don`t see that big of a problem. Zidane tribal (talk) 05:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah is neater, don`t worry, i`ll make the proper changes sccord to the manual of style from here on. Zidane tribal (talk) 17:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Signature
Did you recently change your signature? It seems like there were previously only two things in parentheses, not the current three. Nyttend (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
He did. See the "Country Music" topic on my talk page for the old one. CycloneGU (talk) 02:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
The Greatest Hits Collection III (Unofficial)
I got rid of the information on the Brooks & Dunn biography page saying that they were releasing a third greatest hits album, as it was unsourced. Since it was unsourced, and an unestablished user put it there, i got rid of it. Was that right? Ryanbstevens (talk) 23:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
it must have wandered off under the table...
The Editor's Barnstar
Remember how I said before that there'd be a barnie in it for you should you manage to corral the Zim articles? Guess what. treeloradda 23:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OxiClean (2nd nomination)
Hi TPH—I'm trying to AGF on this nomination, but it doesn't appear that you did sufficient diligence in determining whether the topic is notable. The deletion criterion isn't "article doesn't demonstrate notability of the topic", but "topic is not notable". Some amount of burden is on the nominator. I would suggest you withdraw the nomination. Bongomatic 03:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I did do a search for sources, but all I was finding was press releases. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 03:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I recommend the Google news archive search under all dates. The "All dates" option is tricky, and its availability depends on what country you are in. When you first do the news search if you don't see the "All dates" link on the left, you may need to remove the country-specific top-level domain from the url manually. If it's still not available, then re-search (web, not news) the term you want, and then click "News" at the top and try again to remove the country-specific TLD from the url. (If you have modified the search in any way from the initial news search under the original TLD, removing the TLD will not cause the "All dates" option to reappear.) Bongomatic 03:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.
Huh, that's exacty what I did, too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 03:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, Hammer, I'm trying to assume good faith too, but come on--how could you nominate this? THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 03:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I find it ironic that you would nominate OxiClean for being "not notable" by using a spoof of the sales pitch with the expectation that most people would recognize it. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Now I get to ask your help. Staying with Bonnie Tyler, I'm trying to find The Love Collection, which is her biggest album in terms of a compilation, even bigger than The Definitive Collection in terms of number of tracks (though not as time-covering as the former). AllMusic doesn't have a rating for it, and the Amazon product page has user reviews - not the official one, but user reviews - stating that it's the best album ever, etc. as far as Tyler goes. That page also doesn't have track times, which are the item that is eluding me.
How should I handle this album? I haven't done much to the page yet (since I might end up having to kill this one), but if you can find a source that would be most useful, I'd use it. So far my requests for the track times from the CD itself have gone unanswered, but maybe I can get an eBay seller to read them off to me...if that copy isn't sealed, that is... CycloneGU (talk) 03:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Got your reply. I was wondering if an Amazon selling page is enough reference. What do you think of this as a source? No times tho. CycloneGU (talk) 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough, I never created that one so it's not a problem for me. I was just wondering what you thought about the album's listing, since I couldn't find coverage myself. =) CycloneGU (talk) 06:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Sara Evans' band
I actually wasn't the one who added that, but I think I could bullet it and change it to "Evans" not "Sara". I don't know how I could find a reference to it, it doesn't seem like something really referenceable... but I know that its correct info because I've seen her perform live and she introduced everyone in her band. CloversMallRat (talk) 04:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. Greg Martin was very helpful. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 05:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I've been working on Trisha Yearwood's article, but seems there are no free images of her anywhere and I mean everywhere. Its really unfortunate because pretty much all of the other female singers have free images and she doesn't. You probably don't know of this, but just to be sure, do you know of any free-licensed images of Yearwood? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, well thank you anyways. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Please remove the CSD tag. There is an RFC in progress on this page. Manning (talk) 17:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Regarding your comment here, I received that as being uncivil. Please note the instruction on the article page to see the talk page, and then read the lengthy RFC comments. Manning (talk) 17:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
My reasons for brevity were clearly laid out in the RFC. Manning (talk) 17:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
List of fictional deer
I know it's somewhat silly, but I thought you might be interested to see what I've done with the article "List of fictional deer", which you helped to save from "nominated for deletion". Ironically, I had nothing to do with the article until then. I hope you enjoy it. --AuthorityTam (talk) 20:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
References
Ugh, I hate to do this to you...but remember when I tried to get Billy Ray Cyrus discography to FL? Well one of the things was fixing the references with {{cite web}}, it still hasn't been done and I'm so afraid to do it. That's a big ass job to do, too...so, basically what I'm trying to say is, would you wanna help me? Like you take half and I'll take the other half? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 03:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha, well thanks! Sick, huh? I might start on this tomorrow sometime, just to let you know. It's too late to start something huge. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 03:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
What spaces? It's making me so mad! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh! I would never have thought of that! The Some Gave All ones didn't get fixed, though. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Re:P&F
Alright, thanks. I'll start doing that - some of them generally don't have authors/published dates (mostly just the IMDb ones) but all of them are able to have accessdate. Thanks for helping me with this, BTW. The Flash{talk} 18:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
A note...
If you're thinking of asking DragonflySixtyseven to lock up the Chowder articles, now's as good a time as any other. treeloradda 18:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Huh, figured you'd have said something by now. treeloradda 23:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I tried asking some people on IRC but nobody thought it was bad enough. The only offending IP is blocked now. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 23:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Which seems weird because the last time a semi-prot got plonked on those articles there wasn't much then and always the same admin. Guess people have simply gone off the idea of adding nothing to the articles these days though now there's also people just going totally apoplectic about scheduling (again) which can and will affect more than simply Chowder. treeloradda 12:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Multiple/single entry for songs
As somebody who appears to be interested in song articles I thought you might like to have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/coverversions and make known your feelings on the matter. Regards. --Richhoncho (talk) 11:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Any ideas for sources?
Do you have any suggestions for sources for Number One songs in Canada or the U.S. in the 1990s? Anything besides allmusic. If any, please let me know. Martin4647 (talk) 23:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
I mean like, reviews, sources for critical reception and stuff like that. Martin4647 (talk) 02:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Apparently so, people add his reviews on Roughstock as they do for say... oh, Billboard album reviews, that I do not understand. treeloradda 16:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I'm writing for Roughstock now. I don't write for Billboard yet, but you never know. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I do and doubt you will but as you say, you never know and hopefully nobody will notice your ottery ghostwriters either. treeloradda 18:05, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Good for you! I'm happy for you. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Spotlight relaunch
Some users have decided to try and relaunch the spotlight project, and I am informing all users that were on the previous list of participants.
We thought that, rather than discuss it, it would be more effective to simply start, and try to make it work again. Therefore, we are currently working on an article.
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For God's sake, do you think a #1 country song only reached #107 on the Hot 100? On Hot 100 because there are 2 version of that song, so they just removed Nettles' credit on Hot 100, just like they removed Chesney's credit for the song "Every Other Weekend". Langdon (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
see this page, the duet version was released to country radio first, then when the solo version debuted on Hot Adult Top 40 chart, Nettles' credit was removed. Langdon (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
ANI
When you open the discussion of a user (such as Hell in a Bucket) at ANB or AN/I, please notify them. Even they have have treated past notices in an impolite manner. For one thing it's only fair, for another we want them to see what we have to say about them. DGG (talk) 19:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
sorry, probably he removed it along with the other complaints. (it helps to say you did at thee ANB or AN/I ) I'm going to try to watch him more closely. DGG (talk)
A little trigger happy are we? I wasn't avoiding your questions at all. I am going camping and had to go to walmart not once but twice to get all the materials I needed. To be quite honest the fact that you were willing to go to Ani over something that petty is laughable. Now that being said I will happily answer your question. The malls aren't notable. This is my own opinion only but just because they exist doesn't give them notability. I could write about a local mom and pop butcher story that Recently had an article in The Pueblo Chieftain. Does it make them notable, certainly not. The great mall in minnesota i believe is notable,. It's a world class mall, these aren't even in the same ball park. I sympathize because I do live in a smaller town and undersrtand the wwant to make others aware about it. Is anyone going to remember Franks Meat Market in Pueblo Colo in 100 years? No, the same holds true to your malls. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 22:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Joey (song)
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First of all, you shouldn't have reinstated the Trashwomen speedy after I removed it, given my point about the rejection of my speedy nomination of the article yesterday.
Second, although you declared in your edit summary that I hadn't read the article "carefully," the editor who wasn't reading carefully would be you. I was careful to point out in my comment today that the notable label involved wasn't mentioned in the article, which makes your discussion of the article text pointless. The admin who reviewed my speedy nom yesterday did better research than I did or you did. Estrus Records. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Since you are my "go to guy" for music questions: At what point does an artist merit a discography article? I nominated Cashis discography for deletion because the guy really only has released one album and a bunch of stuff that didn't chart. He has supposedly been a "featured performer" on some songs that did chart (Don't get me started on the who rap "featured performer thing) etc. Am I on the right track or am I totally misunderstanding what qualifies for a discography article? Niteshift36 (talk) 04:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
So, if I understand you correctly, nominating the Cashis discography isn't out of line in your opinion since the artist article is pretty short and he really has little in the way of releases, correct? Niteshift36 (talk) 16:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. You've been a help as always. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for redirecting that article to the album article. Your change was reverted and I reverted it back. The editor in question left me a nice "why cant you just leave this article alone" message to which I replied "why cant you provide the required sources to show its notability". Might be worth keeping an eye on and protecting if necessary.--RadioFan (talk) 14:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The creator of this article has reverted it again, I dont want to reach the 3RR. Could you redirect it again?--RadioFan (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Why can't we just redirect this page like you did with Justin Moore (album) (Which i undid the redirect on because i found a track listing)? Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I've redirected it. Ryanbstevens (talk) 19:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I was at a Blake Shelton and Aaron Tippin concert last night and got quite a few great pictures of them both. I was wondering if you think either one of them could use any new pictures some place in their articles? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 21:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
What do I do about the summary for them, though? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the summary below the picture after it's uploaded. Like the author, permission, etc. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 01:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
That's probably be the easiest thing to do. Should I go ahead and upload them, and you can decide if they're good enough to use. Now that I looked close enough, the only good picture I got of Aaron is a little bit blurry from a lady next to me hit my elbow while I was taking it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:04, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Besides, I'm not that upset you'd put my article on the Snow Cap in Seligman up for deletion. :) Ah, but seriously: I should've put more inline citations, sources and such. I was going to when I nominated it for DYK, but I went on wikibreak. The reviewer said the same thing about the lack of sources. Keep yon otters chirping. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Categories
You once told me to ask before creating a new category. Where and who should i ask? Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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Wayne Massey
I'm very happy that you have created a page for Wayne Massey, however user:Cindy1000 consistently continues to add B-sides to his singles chart. The user has also added a very large (and unimportant) B-side table for Charly McClain's discography. According to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style, B-sides should be avoided on a discography. I tried to explain this to her, however it seems that she says she didn't like Wiki's policies. I cannot straighten this out it seems and she keeps reverting my edits on both discographies. Can you help me solve this dilemma? 18:42, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Crap, I can't believe I forgot to sign my name well that never happens, sorry! I think you mean an administrator right? Ok well I think I will do that you don't have to get involved thanks! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey you guys... Have a heart... The b-side issue is being debated on the proposed discography policy page and there are very good arguments in favor of allowing this information. There is certainly no harm. It is not true that I simply don't like Wiki policies. This is not a policy, it is a guideline and Wiki encourages challenges to guidelines. There are in fact several pages of other artists that include this info. I honestly believe that this is pertinent and sought after information. Dottiewest1fan, you deem it unimportant, but that is your opinion and it is not shared universaly. TenPoundHammer, I too am very happy that you have created a page for Wayne Massey and you know how much I have contributed to it. (Cindy10000 (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)).
I just left the following response to you on my talk page and repeat it here because I don't know if you get responses left on another user's page. Please consider.
"Yes, B-sides are much harder to source. All the more reason to compile the information. In time, this info will be lost if not documented. I happen to have original copies of all the 45RPM records in question and so know the info to be absolutely factual. (I can scan them for you to prove it) Accuracy is extremely important to me and so is completeness. By the way, it is not correct that there not other pages that include b-sides, because there are. I would hate to see those deleted and other people who went to the effort to compile the information upset too. Also, as I stated in another communication, the guidelines are not policy. There has been and is current discussion on this topic going on. (Cindy10000 (talk) 22:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC))." (Cindy10000 (talk) 22:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)).
Not specifically asking your advice because I know this discog is pointless, the musician might be notable but his music doesn't seem to be by enough and it's created by a well known dumb kiddie vandal so yeah... Anyway, what I do want you to do is basically do my dirty work and push it along to AfD because I'm unable to state just how this article is flawed in a way which doesn't read as being based on some bad guy doing it and me not liking it much. I looked hard through every single policy and guideline related to musical notability but came up empty. treeloradda 14:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
You couldn't just redirect it like I did? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 14:50, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
You couldn't have replied here like I did? Well, OK, I'm very lazy and a redirect just seemed... like not much more than a blanking. S'alright though, all is cool for now but just be careful keep an eye on it should it return to an article... xe's a sneaky one! treeloradda 14:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Definitely a lot worse than the atlantic page. At least atlantic is a single label/operation, what can we say about sony bmg as a parent company with hundreds of labels and operations in 75+ countries? Imperatore (talk) 21:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
This user is on a roll, creating so called discography pages for a variety of other labels, label groups and parent companies. What angers me the most is that these pages are blatant vandalism; he puts in brackets the labels/companies behind the releases, and they have no association to the page of the label he's created. This user needs to be dealt with under a vandalism context accordingly (I'm not familiar with user warnings and such). Imperatore (talk) 22:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
User has now been reported at WP:ANI. Imperatore (talk) 15:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
A Good Day
I've noticed you still haven't done a review for this song yet. Urgg.. :) EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I saw it now! Thanks. I really enjoyed that review, you didn't bash him like most losers (critics) do. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk)
August 2009
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DYK for Toes (song)
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Hi! It looks like someone reverted you and restored the article. Would you mind withdrawing the RfD as no longer relevant? Thanks, Jafeluv (talk) 08:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I would recommend keeping the RfD open, since myself and one other user have !voted for the page to turn back into a redirect. Either that, or re-list it at RfD based on consensus from the AfD. --Bsay@CSU[ π ] 19:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, since RfD is for discussing redirects, and the page in question is an article rather than a redirect, the correct place to discuss it would be AfD. The fact that the nominator turned the article into a redirect before listing it does not change the fact that we're discussing deleting an article, not undoing a redirect. Jafeluv (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Geffen Records discography
I have listed Geffen Records discography for Deletion along the same lines as your other discography nominations. --Bsay@CSU[ π ] 20:33, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
E1 Music
Another culprit: E1 Music discography. Of particular note for Koch and E1 is to stress the distribution-only component in the nomination. It looks like this is the last one. Imperatore (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I am not sure exactly where you are getting your information from, but I would say that something in your research is missing. A broad statement like " the theater was never completed" is too broad for the information that you did find. I don't have any paper documentaion showing the theater was ever there, but I do remember hanging out there as a kid and even going on my first date there in the summer of 1994. You should get your facts straight before you post them.
Hello. I'm getting increasingly puzzled by your behaviour regarding this article. The first two AFD's both resulted in a consensus for Keep, the first after you withdrew the nomination, the second with a clear consensus for keeping. Despite a lack of consensus for doing so you then redirected the article to Atlantic Records and listed the redirect at RFD, with no mention there that this is a long-standing article that had been redirected by yourself shortly before listing it there. You then opened a third AFD for the article in which you claimed "Previous AFDs resulted in redirect", which is patently untrue and misleading. You are perfectly entitled to a view that this article shouldn't exist, but this project works by accepting community consensus - I don't understand why you are unwilling to accept consesnsus on this issue and why you appear to be behaving so disruptively.--Michig (talk) 08:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
I have never seen consensus for a label discography to be deleted, so long as it's a notable label. The Sony BMG one wasn't a label discography, it was including records distributed by the Sony BMG company and was never going to work. Atlantic Records is a different kettle of fish, and there are plenty of other label discographies out there that are encyclopedic and in good shape, e.g. Creation Records discography and Island Records discography. Since a book has been published (in several editions) cataloguing the Atlantic Records releases, I think we can assume that a good, well-sourced article is possible here, and since this information has been documented in a published work elsewhere, I don't think it can be argued that it would be unencyclopedic. Don't take the Sony BMG one as consensus to go deleting label discographies willy-nilly. --Michig (talk) 19:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
See the talk page (Talk:Atlantic Records discography) - I've listed three sources found from a quick search, which should help to expand and source the article enormously. As for labels distributed by a bigger label/company (as opposed to sub-labels, which are common), I would exclude them and go for a separate list (if justified re. notability of label, etc.) with a pointer from the main label's discog.), but that's just my view. --Michig (talk) 20:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm Alive
What I did really didn't add any length to the intro at all, it just added the references so that the need to repeat everything was eliminated. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I've never heard that... I see references in leads all the time. Makes no sense to me why not. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Boy Like Me
Thanks for the smaller cover =) CloversMallRat (talk) 16:47, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
poke
pokes it with a stick* you alive? Yngvarr(t)(c) 14:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Ow. Yes. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Why haven't you been around us recently? treeloradda 19:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Haven't been touching the cartoon articles as much. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
We're not that much fun anymore then? Aw, com'mon! treeloradda 19:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
You are. Summer heat melts my brain. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but nothing numbs the brain quite like battling the ocean of inane trivia that just keeps washing up, like so much flotsam on the beach. Yngvarr(t)(c) 19:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
(ec) Not enough to slow his edit rate in other... lesser areas I see. Anyway, come play, Yng may have ideas. treeloradda 19:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Go ahead, give me something. I just can't seem to find any more Invader Zim sources, and Chowder is tough to google. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I just had to say thank you for this glorious edit. I've been trying to build up the courage to delete that utter crap section for the longest time but I kept wussing out. Kudos to you! Pinkadelica♣ 03:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Marc's
Please read my response at the AFD. Nyttend (talk) 19:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
CM images
I saw your list. http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/fist.php?doit=1&language=en&project=wikipedia&data=American+country+music+groups&datatype=categories¶ms[catdepth]=2¶ms[random]=50¶ms[ll_max]=5¶ms[commons_max]=5¶ms[flickr_max]=5¶ms[include_flickr_id]=1¶ms[picasa_max]=5¶ms[wts_max]=5¶ms[gimp_max]=5¶ms[esp_max]=5¶ms[ab_max]=5¶ms[geograph_max]=5¶ms[forarticles]=noimage¶ms[lessthan_images]=3¶ms[default_thumbnail_size]=¶ms[jpeg]=1¶ms[png]=1¶ms[gif]=1¶ms[svg]=1¶ms[ogg]=1¶ms[min_width]=80¶ms[min_height]=80¶ms[output_format]=out_html&sources[languagelinks]=1&sources[commons]=1&sources[flickr]=1 tool can make finding images pretty fast and easy. I was going to try and do some, but my crappy internet connection made uploading the image for Barefoot Manner take about 15 minutes (plus I guess there's problems with the toolserver, so the fastest way isn't working). Anyways, you've probably already seen the tool, but with a fast connection and some practice you can do about 10-15 images an hour. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 05:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for letting me know. I nominated it. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Shea Fisher
Ok, no problem. I don't know a whole lot about the Australian charts. Thanks for letting me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilliganfanatic (talk • contribs) 22:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Terri Clark
I have a question.. you're aware that My Next Life wasn't released, correct? Well since it wasn't, and "Dirty Girl" and "In My Next Life" are on her new live album, should the album name be changed to Terri Clark Live: Road Rage? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 22:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I was just checking. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 14:08, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
AfD socks
Hi TenPoundHammer - I was in the midst of writing you a note to see what could be done regarding the obvious socking at the Bob Taggart AfD when I saw that you filed an SPI. Thank you most sincerely for the effort, perhaps now I can actually follow cogent arguments on the page without constant interruptions and edit conflicts. Cheers, --ponyo (talk) 17:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for this TPH. His comment saying "what did he ever do to you" did make me laugh though. Lugnuts (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
DYK for I'm Alive (Kenny Chesney and Dave Matthews song)
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Be Here
What is the alternative cover adding to the article? If it's so important, why is it not discussed in the article prose? J Milburn (talk) 16:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
No, I can't see anything. You can hardly use original research to justify the use of a non-free image, and the fact it is now described in the prose surely means it is even less needed. Honestly, ask yourself whether the article is significantly improved by that cover. I can't see why it is. J Milburn (talk) 16:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
There are people who will fight to keep anything non-free. If you think it's worth it, go for it, I'm not going to fight about it, as someone will happily swoop in to make my job Hell. I'm certainly not posting it on a noticeboard, as it will be the same nonsense it always is. I believe the current guidance based on no policy at all is to use an alternative cover if it is significantly different, and has been widely distributed. As I say, I have no idea why that suddenly makes it significant enough to compromise our free content goals, and I can't wait to see the article in which about ten covers are justified because of that... J Milburn (talk) 16:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye
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thanks for the more creative solutions at his article and associated articles, i forgot about redirects (still new here by my standards).Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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L-men of the year
Thanks for catching the parent had been deleted. I did find it odd that no parent existed but could not find an indication that such an article had existed. --Cameron Scott (talk) 18:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Categories for artist's albums
Hi, TPH. When creating categories for artists albums, and the artist's name is a disambiguation – e.g. Jim Smith (musician) – do you know if the category should be Category:Jim Smith albums or Category:Jim Smith (musician) albums. Because, do you know what? I haven't got a clue! :) – B.hotep •talk• 11:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Jake
Yeah, the "by the gay community" is important in that sentence. DS (talk) 13:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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Most just say "was number 1 in Canada". I put a request on the cat. Also I found a couple that only made number 4.... RichFarmbrough, 00:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC).
That is, if there was a period when the the videos were producted by Deaton-Flanigen without the word "Productions", then that would be a problem. If not, then I agree completely. Debresser (talk) 15:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Can I ask you a question?
I'm confused. How does the GA system work? After the nominations, what happens? (I know what basicly happens, but I would like to know what's past that) Cheers, Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 22:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Radney Foster & Co.
Hello,
I just made articles for all 4 Foster & Lloyd albums and was wondering if I should create a wimpy template for just them or should I add them to Radney Foster's template..
good day,
Publichall (talk) 03:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
As I haven't plagued anyone with puns lately.
"Silly boxes that the otters won't let me get rid of"
You really otter get those otter there. Ok not really, just an excuse for otterly awful puns. - sinneed (talk) 19:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
A good pun is its own reword. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Please don't bother to return to an edit war over banner tags on this article. If you have issues with the article, be bold and make the changes, or discuss them on the talk page. Drive-by tagging isn't useful, I don't agree that the practice of placing such tags has consensus on the encyclopedia, and to the contrary, such practice is contentious. Robert K S (talk) 21:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
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Hi! You posted a message on my talk page about the date Trisha Yearwood peaked. The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits lists the date the song reached the Top 40, not the date it peaked. In this case, it reached top 40 on July 12, 1997. I'll add it there as a guess, with a sidenote. Holiday56 (talk) 08:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
PS: I've now found this guidance, which states "When a track is not strictly a song (in other words a composition without lyrics, or an instrumental that is not a cover of a song), disambiguation should be done using (composition) or (instrumental)." Would you object to it being moved back? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
PPS. No response, and WP:NAME seems clear, so I've moved it back. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Reba McEntire
Hey, I just wanted to get some other opinions on my work. I completley rewrote Reba McEntire's article, beginning last Sunday and I finally finished it today, with tons of references and biographical information. What do you think of it? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 03:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Lol silly, there already is a section on her "musical styles". Didn't you see it (or is not good enough)? Do you think it will make GA status I never imagined that to be possible. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 04:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Awesome! I seriously thought the section sucked lol and that's why you didn't notice it. GA really? If so, could you help me with that sometime? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 04:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, well if you could just give me the link to the GA site so I can nominate the article. Who knows, maybe it will be a featured article in the future, I mean it's at the perfect time, with her new album out. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 05:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Would it seriously be a burden if you did for me? You seem to have more experience, since you got the Diamond Rio discography to FA status. I am mainly worried that the article doesn't have any music samples. I would add them if I knew how to, if they're required for GA, I will do it. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 05:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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This has been on my mind for a while. I always thought you got kind of a raw deal, and some users seem determined to perpetually oppose you, but is it maybe time for another run at it? See, I remember numerous interactions with you when I was new user, and you were always very helpful. Now, I am a newly minted admin myself, and somehow it rubs me the wrong way that you've been shot down so many times and I got the bit after only two tries. Surely, no one could claim now that it's "too soon" since number six closed over a year ago. A quick survey of your recent talk doesn't reveal any nasty drama, you have a hell of a lot of edits,(I think I almost made WikiChecker crash by asking it to analyze all of your edits[41]) and your edits are heavily weighted in article space. Combined with all the DYKs you seem to have racked up, I'm having a hard time finding any obvious "ship sinking" issues that would cause another crash and burn. I'm not sure I'm the one to write up a nom, there are probably better people for that who have worked directly with you more extensively, but I thought I'd just run this up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes... Beeblebrox (talk) 01:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm still on the fence. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I'll agree about the fencesitting, not so much as to why. So far, every RfA has always landed at a middling 60-70% support because of deletionist concerns. Basically you've been filibustered by others who figure with your deletionist ways, suave Latin charm and an otter cadre (and a bat) at your bidding you're not worthy of holding the mop and having to take the crap that comes with deleting precious articles given it is hard to get it back from you once you get it. The differing thing between me, you and Gorgy is that you do the junk Wikipedia wants, we do the junk Wikipedia has to put up with. You do craploads of junk like I don't get or don't want to really fathom and that's good, why exactly your love of cleaning as well as creating holds you back I can't say. Anyway, you've been blocked by what seems like petty reasons of being too fun (not entirely but a lot more fun that some of those guys with rods way up their asses) and a raving deletionist kook who'll shoot first and ask questions later, nothing else. No, it ain't no good but to be fair, I don't want you with the tools because I will bug you senseless regarding it and still mock you for it some 5 months down the line... if it gets you to talk. Get the tools, feel happy you survived the Thunderdome and simply let them slide, make sure your detractors know it truly ain't no big deal. treeloradda 08:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah, what the hey. Shnitzel's been the most encouraging here. I do think I've toned down a bit. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
So, what, you're a go-go for RfA #7 should someone choo-choo-choose to nom you? treeloradda 17:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah, great. Well then, update your notice on your userpage, right now everyone reckons they cant nom you at all until sometime in late 2010. treeloradda 17:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Say more, right now as a regular gawper at your page I'd reckon the conditions still applied and that noming you is a big no-no. treeloradda 18:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, go ahead. I'm feeling a little more confident now, take me. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Huh? Naw, I can't nom you, it feels weird and also I have to answer to people for the nom which I can't shoulder because whilst I have the confidence of your adminability, I don't have the words to explain it or feel I can respond to questions posed to me in a manner which won't torpedo your chances. Also, I have little to no standing, every nom thus far has come from people with standing. Not saying it'll make much in the way of a difference, just if Beeblebrox has said words to the effect of saying he wants to nom you then I feel he should do if you're alright with it. That and having to appease the cabal which seems to turn its collective nose up at non-admin noms for some reason in the same way self-noms do. So yeah, I can't nom you not for knowing what to say or none but because I think I will scupper your chances. treeloradda 18:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I self nommed and they went for it (on the second try). Anyhoo, if nobody else steps up in the near future, I could take a crack it, although I'm not sure someone whose only been an admin for one day has much "standing" either. OK, other TPH talk page stalkers, make yourselves known, I know you're out there! Beeblebrox (talk) 18:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been spotted! *peers out from under his rock* If TPH is amenable, I'll take a shot at writing something up. Tony Fox(arf!) 03:39, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, just go ahead and then tell him he's been nom'd for RfA, it's not really a nom unless someone pounces it on you unexpectedly. treeloradda 07:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to set something up in my userspace once I've finished salvaging some material from a slowly dying computer. =P Tony Fox(arf!) 03:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Okay, here's the workspace; I'd appreciate any other interested parties jumping in from there - please give me suggesitons on the talk page, and it can be tweaked then moved to the proper spot. TPH, you could answer the questions there as well if you'd like... Tony Fox(arf!) 04:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Huh, that's interesting. Not sure how kosher it is given the nominee can look and pass advice on the nom itself, I figure if something can't be done there it's the questions and acceptance elements of the nom. I don't think anything is wrong with it as it stands and hits more than what I'd say in the same position so yeah, Chowder gets last say. treeloradda 07:59, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Far as I know, there's nothing in the rules that states the nominee can't see the nom before it's transcluded and offer thoughts - I'd think that would be a better way to go, honestly, and in this case I'm trying to make sure I don't leave anything to chance. I'm more hoping that there might be a co-nominator who wants to weigh in. I'm pretty happy with my statement, though, so if I don't get any feedback in the next while I'll just fire it over to the proper spot and y'all can have at. Tony Fox(arf!) 15:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Go for it, fox. That's a good rationale if I've ever seen one. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 15:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, OK, I'm up for a co-nom for whatever it is worth. treeloradda 16:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Reba refs
Instead I added my book reference I have: Will the Circle Be Unbroken: Country Music in America, which lists all of those influences and whom she has influenced. I had no idea it was in my book until I looked harder today lol, so fixed those and removed your [citation needed] tags. Thank you for noticing, I had no idea. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, well I probably can add it to her personal life section about Pake and Susie because they did have successful careers. I will try to find references to it and add them. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Induced Dyslexia
Dear TenPoundHammer,
Thank you (seriously) for your criticism that there was insufficient documentation to allow the topic "Induced Dyslexia" to be posted on Wikipedia.
I decided to rise to the challenge and created my own web page www.induceddyslexia.com.
I then discovered a technique for quantifying the dyslexic areas of my vision when wearing my progressive glasses. That discovery a year ago has led to the patent I filed two weeks ago for measuring visual acuity. My discovery allows for a test that is about 20% more accurate than the Snellen test, about 40% faster to administer, and because it is based upon the physiology and sensitivity of the photoreceptors of the eye rather than subjective interpretation of English letters, it not only lets you accurately test acuity without the subject being able to read English, the subject doesn't even need to be able to read to accurately have their acuity tested.
I currently am working with three optometry schools (including the school in Hong Kong) to have my test and discovery clinically validated.
All of this in part because of my (legitimate) "rejection" by Wikipedia and my inspiration and refusal to ignore the problem.
I am also hoping that shortly there WILL be sufficient documentation to restore the subject.
Thank you and regards,
hold2file —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hold2file (talk • contribs) 20:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Officially...
Tony Fox would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Tony Fox to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/TenPoundHammer 7 . If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
(after screwing everything up a couple of times, it's up and ready...) Tony Fox(arf!) 16:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
And to think I was going to fix half of that too.. Nevermind, got my short co-nom in. treeloradda 17:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Bleah. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Inclusionist swine? treeloradda 18:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't go that far. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:06, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Me either but it does seem as if your cavalier ways are standing against you... just don't flip out, quit halfways through the nom and never do it again until some distant future in the year 2020. treeloradda 18:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Huh, yknow, I think if you're going to want this, you need to address the opposer's issues (even though some are still hung up on the whole IRC blowout) and build a little action plan of what you need to change within your mental processes so you can improve and fit the admin jumpsuit which is one size fits all, no exceptions. This all reminds me why I'm not exceptionally fond of the RfA procedure, it still strikes me as incredibly biased to certain vocal opponents of an nominee and the past rather than the present. Be patient young padawan, time will show the tale. treeloradda 18:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
That description pretty much jives with my recent experience. People were still bringing up the one thing that sunk my first RFA three months later at my second, but it does seem RFA has grown somewhat more forgiving of late. The newest drama/controversy/whatever is over how much questioning and challenging of oppose votes is appropriate. I tried to limit myself in that regard to clear logical flaws, and one case of an outright lie. Of course I bit my tongue and didn't actually call it a lie, I just asked a polite question asking for diffs to back it up. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
There's no pleasing some people. Addressing the opposers issue is one thing, but FFS, some of the opposes aren't really actionable. Protonk (talk) 03:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
RFA
How come on your user page, you have 7 RFA's, and on your RFA page, you have 7. What is missing here that I am not knowing of. I would bring this up on your RFA, but I don't want to get an editor encouraged to oppose you. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
The 7th was first made earlier this year, and was deleted because the nom filed it without asking first. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I'd consider moving the current one or putting an explanation on your page, as it looks odd. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to see things didn't go your way with the RfA. I do hope you plan to remain fully active, because there is really nobody on Wikipedia that could do the work you do. I wish the past wasn't always dragging you down. Just try and relax and do what you enjoy best and don't worry about the parts of Wikipedia that stress you out. -- SoapTalk/Contributions 03:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I feel like an asshole for getting this ball rolling. It really seemed to me like RFA of late had been a more forgiving place where ancient history wasn't permanently held against someone, but clearly you have some wiki-enemies who intend to hold a permanent grudge against you no matter what you do. Some of them even said as much, which turned my stomach. Have one on me with my apologies for instigating this fiasco. Beeblebrox (talk)
And...whoo boy, this comment is gonna get saved by the usual suspects, but it is a fucking death sentence to be labeled a deletionist at RfA. Protonk (talk) 03:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
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I see that your RfA was closed and I can imagine that today was an incredibly stressful experience for you, especially in view of the seething stupidity that some people demonstrated in their comments about your candidacy. I will say that I deeply appreciate what you are bringing to Wikipedia and I hope that you will stay with us and continue with your fine work. Peace be with you. Pastor Theo (talk) 04:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
You failed me (in regards to withdrawing rather than yknow, failing) again! Ah well, what did we learn today from this baptismal of fire and brimstone? RfA proves all the mysteries you only hitherto thought were only rumour, like there being a cabal of inclusionists hence why schism-creating groups like WP:ARS and WP:AIW get to survive and progress whilst opposing groups are rejected at every turn, there's a set idea and groupthink aspect to what an administrator is and no deviations from that template are permitted and your not so great past actions define you more than any action you ever made or will make. Still, the tools may elude you now and forever but for something which is such a piddling little piece of crap it may as well be one step above autoconfirmed it sure seems only the few can have them. RfA still needs reform but you don't need to be able to delete or block in order to write a good article, keep at it chuckles. treeloradda 09:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Some people call WP:BACK Wiki-Hell. I don't. Wiki-hell is WP:RFA. RFA is home to some of the most heated, hurtful discussions anywhere on the 'pedia. While I opposed, nobody can take your immaculate article writing history away from you. I hope you survived the intense heat of the Wiki-hell, and that I will see some more great work from you soon. You are irreplaceable. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 12:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I know that was tough. You do great work. - Dank (push to talk) 13:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
H8
"…loved by many, hated by just as %#@$#*!ing many."
I am happy to be able to say I have GREAT confidence that isn't true of you, TPH.
In a sense, people want to support only admins they feel are going to agree with them. Even the kindest way to present concerns about ones decisions ("Will this person make the decision I would make if I were ("an" or "the reviewing") admin...which, of course, would be the correct ones?") is really unpleasant. And there are not enough who bother to approach the matter with kindness.
RfA is one of the few places in WP where people can be REALLY ugly and get away with it. Most of the rest of the time we say "Focus on the content, not the editors...", and mean it, and more than one editor will fall on offenders from a great height if they just...can't...stop. But in RfAs and such, folk can let the mean out. Couple that with the fact that many who would say good things simply never go there; it is just too unpleasant, and I am rather amazed that anyone who edits heavily ever makes it. If one has opinions, they will be "wrong" every time to someone... and if one has enough opinions, one will eventually be "wrong" to everyone.
I am sorry that I don't have any real words of wisdom to offer, and hope this poor attempt is in some small way helpful. All the very best, and I am sorry that was such a nasty experience.- sinneed (talk) 23:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I am very troubled that you think people hate you. Hate is to strong a word to be tossed around online.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 01:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, TPH, I did not mean to draw even more negativity. I apologize.- sinneed (talk) 03:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
This is the anger, fear and self-loathing period of the RfA fallout. It, much like a day-old burrito, will pass, just going to take some time and might be a little noxious on the way out. Remember to jiggle the handle. treeloradda 07:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Lord Have Mercy on the Working Man
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The way it was worded made it sound like an unimportant detail. Since it has an article, then its fine to have it there. I did, however, word it better so it doesn't sound like a useless fact. Its not like songs leaking on YouTube is some sort of new thing - it happens all the time. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Adminship
I heard you withdrew the nomination. Sorry. Just in case you get too angry you lost, I have to do this:
Just making sure. :D Rowdy the Ant (talk) 14:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all the words, everyone. I'm honestly surprised that even more people hate me than ever. What did I do wrong? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 15:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't hate you, I just think you're a poor judge of what needs to be deleted when it comes to redirects and miscellany. If I don't see any (or many) wrongheaded noms from you at these venues in between now and your next RFA (if such a thing is to come to pass), I might be more inclined to support (or at least abstain). I may have even switched to neutral or support had you indicated you realized where your noms in the past had been unnecessary, instead, you dug in your heels. –xenotalk 15:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't hate you either, but I was real dissoppointed when you got me blocked. I really almost didn't support you on the RFA, but then I thought "What did he do wrong?" so I supported. Rowdy the Ant (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Um, what's with the trout dude? treeloradda 16:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The people who were making bitter, nasty and sarcastic comments weren't saying anything about you -- but they were saying volumes about themselves. There is a point I sometimes make in regard to faith-based miracle healing: there are endless recorded testimonies of the blind receiving sight and the lame receiving mobility, but there is no recorded testimony of the stupid receiving brainpower. Think about it! :) Pastor Theo (talk) 16:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
That trout is way out of order. I supported, btw, and should you choose to run again I will support. ƒ(Δ)² 16:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I just did the trout to be a joke. If he wants to he can eat it. lol Rowdy the Ant (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
...Yeah. treeloradda 17:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't hate you either. ;) And the opposes shouldn't be perceived that way. I don't commonly oppose RfAs, but I simply have a firm opinion that you lack proper judgement with the deletion area of adminship, similar to Xeno. Good luck, JamieS93 18:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't think many people who opposed that RfA, including myself, hate you in the slightest, we all appreciate the work you do around here. Contrary to popular belief, I feel adminship is really a big deal afterall, and with errors still occurring comparatively frequently in your work, I just didn't feel I could support. 7 RfAs only really reinforced my oppose, but it didn't decide it. If you continue to improve in the way you have done, I'm not opposed to supporting you in future. Truly, I just didn't feel you were ready for the mop yet. Best of luck with editing. Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 18:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
For the record, I don't hate you. Don't like you as a person all that much, for the same reasons I opposed: immaturity, lack of judgement, and an almost aggressive lack of clue. These things can be overcome with patience and dedication and, most importantly, listening when people tell you things and not doing the same thing over and over and over and over. As an editor (outside of projectspace, specifically deletions) I think you are generally fine, and contribute a lot. However, it is your reactions when balked, your questionable judgement when it comes to deletions, your not-infrequent demands! for! something! to! be! done! now!, and particularly your sulkiness when people won't jump when you say frog and don't feel like contributing to your pet areas (a frustration I share, given my relatively obscure interests) are each individually good reasons why you are unsuited for adminship. Taken together, while they are all fixable, they add up to someone who simply should not be given the ability to delete pages or block users. I understand that you mean well, but we all know what the road to Hell is paved with.
Seven failed bids for adminship have produced a few clear patterns of why people think you should not be an admin:
RfA 1: communication (lack of edit summaries), communication (rudeness), poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), maturity, poor judgement (hasty decisions)
RfA 2: poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), maturity
RfA 3: poor judgement (accepting nomination 21 days after RfA 2), concerns about too much hunger for the tools
RfA 4: poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), poor judgement (misapplication of CSD criteria), poor judgement (hasty decisions)
RfA 5: poor judgement (too many RfAs), concerns about too much hunger for the tools, poor judgement (hasty decisions)
RfA 6: poor judgement (misapplication of CSD criteria), poor judgement (failure to substantively address and fix concerns from 5 previous RfAs)
RfA 7: poor judgement (misapplication of CSD criteria), poor judgement (over-eager with AfDs and speedies, poor evaluation of what should/shouldn't be deleted), poor judgement (too many RfAs), poor judgement (failure to substantively address and fix concerns from 5 previous RfAs)
So the bottom line: almost nothing about your behaviour or the reasons people oppose you becoming an admin has changed in nearly three years. You addressed the concerns about edit summaries, something that is trivial to do. You have in some ways addressed the incivility, but it comes and goes. Your poor judgement with regards to any portion of the deletion process, particularly CSD tagging and XfD noms, has unfortunately been almost completely unchanged since your first RfA. And those concerns have been raised--indeed, by people who rarely agree with each other, and by people on the deletionist side of the inclusion/deletion spectrum--on all seven RfAs. To those of us voting, that looks like either you: a) are unable to recognise there is a problem, b) don't care that there is a problem, and in either case are uninterested in making any sort of change.
Speaking as someone who is unlikely to pass an RfA anytime before the heat death of the universe, there is no chance whatsoever that you will ever pass one without addressing those issues. As it is, even if you do fix those problems, I think it highly unlikely that you will ever pass; you seem to see adminship as some sort of prize to be won or a status you deserve, as opposed to a position of trust that is earned. The community is--rightly in my opinion--leery about people who view adminship in that way. And with seven failed RfAs, no significant changes in behaviour since the very first one, the third three weeks after the second (did you really think everyone's opinions would change in 21 days?), and five within the timespan of twelve months, it is entirely reasonable for the community to believe that you feel you deserve to be an admin, without putting in the actual work to get there. Indeed, your apparent anger at not passing only serves to reinforce this interpretation.
I'm sorry if all of this comes off as harsh, but in my many conversations with you I have learned that the only way to get through is to be blunt and unequivocal. The really condensed version is this: in almost three years and six subsequent RfAs, you have still failed to fix the concerns raised at the first one. Once you come to terms with that, you'll be a lot closer to understanding why you are opposed every time, and you may have a chance in an eighth try if and only if you finally fix those issues. → ROUX₪ 04:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
I have to take offense to some of the comments here; this time around, TPH had to be convinced that it was time to give it a shot - he didn't ask people to nominate him, he was hesitant, even after a year of waiting, and I know that if I thought he just wanted it as a prize, I wouldn't have bloody well nominated him. I've been watching his talk page, his activities, and his work for quite some time, and felt that he had matured significantly since the last time around; the fact that he's been praised by people from both sides of the inclusion/deletion spectrum suggests that. It's my opinion that a lot of people who bother to vote at RFA hold grudges far, far past where they should be let go; they vote based on actions far in the past and refuse to accept that someone they are opposed to could possibly change, in a lot of cases. I'm thoroughly disgusted with the process based on what I saw here, and hope that it either gets reformed to something sane soon or crumbles into a heap under its own self-righteousness at some point soon. Tony Fox(arf!) 04:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
I would have to say, then, that your judgement as the nominator was flawed, as was his in accepting. The fact that people were bringing up recent concerns that are indistinguishable from those raised at the first RfA is evidence of this. He has been praised by people from both sides of the D/I spectrum, yes, but he has also been roundly castigated by same. So that's not really a selling point. Take as much offence as you like, really, but hundreds of editors over three years have not changed their consensus. Doesn't that say something? → ROUX₪ 04:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
You in particular cannot believably claim that your vote was based on a careful analysis of his recent contribs. You voted to oppose less than two minutes after it was posted, and when I questioned you about it you said " I'm afraid there is not a single thing that could possibly make me change my mind. TPH is unsuited for adminship, period. " So, you have stated that you intend to oppose him in perpetuity regardless of any change or growth. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Beeblebrox, I believe that under no circumstances will anything change my mind about TPH becoming an admin. I do not believe he will change--note the points above; the same concerns were raised at RfA 7 as at the first--and I do not believe he has the temperament or capability to be an admin, and certainly not without a community-driven desysopping process in place. There are several others I feel the same about, and I am quite sure there are people who think that about me. So it goes. However, and this is important, other people do not feel as I do about TPH (obviously, given the number of supports), and I am attempting to explain to him what their concerns are as I see them, and how to fix them. Whether or not I reviewed his recent contribs is immaterial; I had my own reasons for opposing that frankly will not be changing. Others, however, did review his recent contribs and noted that there has been no change since the first RFA. If you would spend your time addressing that elephant rather than shooting the messenger, this conversation would actually be productive. → ROUX₪ 16:47, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it suggests that RFA is pretty much screwed. Tony Fox(arf!) 05:11, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
It's the paradox of Wikipedia, you got a thing which is vastly considered not fit for purpose but nobody can agree what the issue is or a means to fix the issue. Because of not being able to figure out what to do with it and being part non-crucial backwater, part meritocracy window-dressing, part tribal ritual and part oligarchical BFF circlejerk, you're stuck with it and nothing can change it besides pointing to the shitlist and ignoring the issue. The system proves Schrödinger's cat theory wrong, everyone is looking and yet it is neither dead nor alive. treeloradda 14:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Just overhauled his bio. Could you proof-read for mistakes and/or add anything that may be important that I missed. Thanks alot.
Publichall (talk) 07:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Re: WDTW
I left a note as well. Those lists probably fail WP:NOT#DIR as well and should be deleted from all pages. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 22:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Re. Postal Service Discog
Thanks for the NAC. I should've done it myself, and not wasted AfD time, but I obviously wasn't thinking very clearly. Thanks again, and happy editing. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 22:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Cowboy Casanova
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Dead Flowers - EP isn't any less of a notable release for Miranda Lambert because its available at only Best Buy. Its a popular trend these days. The article isn't going to be very large and as heavy on the references because its an EP... no different than ones recently released by Caitlin & Will and Gloriana, for example. And now that I have the EP, I have added the info for the tracklisting. CloversMallRat (talk) 01:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
You were right to tag this as a speedy delete, because it's a hoax. In fact, the article creator has a history of creating hoax articles of the sort. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 21:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Jewel discography
What is your opinion of the singles chart on the Jewel discography page? Do you think the singles should be separated into two separate tables, or should it be one unified table. To me it doesn't make sense why it's split up, but User:EnDaLeCoMpLeX thinks otherwise. What do you think, I don't know if he's right or I am. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
It shouldn't be split in my opinion. Most tables aren't split unless they're much larger. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 11:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Howdy
Hi there, I know that you've worked on a bunch of articles with User:BravesFan2006 and I'm asking if you could do me a favor and please assist me with watching his edits pertaining to chart information? I know that in the past, he would look up, for example, the US country chart on Radio & Records' website a day before Billboard, but now (at least according to this conversion), he is pulling information from a message board. Looking though his Talk Page it seems that other people have asked him where he gets his "early" chart information and he doesn't answer. I don't want to have to start issuing warnings, but I will if I have to. You and I know forums can't be used and I'm pretty sure he knows this too. Thoughts? - eo (talk) 02:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
If that's the case, then cool! As he is a longtime editor who does decent work I didn't want it to come to warnings and all that stuff. Thanks. - eo (talk) 10:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
You Can't Spell Slaughter Without Laughter (ismfof album)
Mind cluing me in on what's going on with You Can't Spell Slaughter Without Laughter (ismfof album)? The version of the article before you turned it into a redirect had a number of professional reviews listed, which appears to meet WP:MUSIC. Then you changed it to a redirect with a cryptic edit summary, and the next day nominate it for speedy deletion. I'm very confused -- on the surface, this appears quite out of character for you, so I'm sure there's backstory I'm missing.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I was recently contacted by User:Rowdy the Ant. He seeks to be adopted by me, and I did so before I read up on his history. I know that he was blocked, and came back after he supposedly learned his lesson. Unfortunately, this seems to not be the case, as he is doing exactly what he said he wouldn't do. How do you want me to proceed with this? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
He just reponded to me and says that he is changed. I basically warned him with the Pastor thing still in my mind. I'm willing to help him now, but I'll still listen to anything you advise. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey Ktr, I really wish do not wish to do any bad anytime soon. I already said I'm a changed user and won't do what I did in the past.
So is this some sort of new policy because I've never seen this used before? I went to the Wiki page and it has no info about the Heatseeks chart, while it does for all other charts. I still see it as a worthless chart. CloversMallRat (talk) 03:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
According to that, the Heatseekers is redundant and should be used only if they haven't charted on the Billboard Hot 100 at all. Which makes more sense to me. CloversMallRat (talk) 19:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Can you please take a look at her article when you get the chance? I started to clean it up but my edits have been reverted by the artist herself. Eric444 (talk) 02:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Nothin' but the Wheel
Please don't delete pages by simply blanking and replacing them with a #redirect. You are well aware of the procedure for deleting pages, please use it instead of subverting it. Also state your justification for deletion so it can be discussed. This is also why I restored the links to this page on the Only What I Feel and Classics (Patty Loveless album) pages. Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
redirecting is using a different name for the same item, or MERGING the information on the page into another article, leaving the page with a #redirect. You are simply deleting the page, leaving a #redirect, which is not the intent of the #redirect function. Again, if you want to delete a page, to through the proper procedures to do so. Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
A merging is defined by the movement of information from one page to another. If you want to delete a page, please use the proper procedures and your justification so it can be discussed. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Clearly you do not understand that merging means moving all of the information from one article to another in a coherent manner which contains the substance of the page into the merged page. All you did was essentially state that it was a single release. None of the information in the infobox as merged. Please perform your editing properly. Also, I fail to understand your reason for desiring to blank the page, as you had edited the page several times in June, also in 2008. It appears that you are wanting to do whatever you want, irregardless of the proper method established by Wikipedia. Page blanking.. IS vandalism and that is exactly what you are doing. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
There is an established procedure for deleting pages. Please follow it if that is what you want to do. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:32, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Your method of "merging" is not actually moving information. It is deleting. Please follow the proper procedures if that is what you wish to do. Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I have advised User:SarekOfVulcan of your actions. Please cease deleting this page and go though the page deletion procedure used by Wikipedia. Bwmoll3 (talk) 20:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Kent Blazy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! cmadler (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Your tagging of Conker's Bad Fur Day
I noticed that you tagged Conker's Bad Fur Day as having a plot summary that is too much. As of this typing, it has a word count of 472. I can pull 100 words out without any effort, but I wanted to know that you're sure about it being too long first. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 04:20, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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Re: Category:Shopping centers by year of establishment
Ah, no, that was my mistake. Somehow I missed the "all subcategories" part of the nomination. I'll put them in the bot work queue now. Thanks for pointing that out. Jafeluv (talk) 17:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Hammer, I'm worried about the fruit loop. He's posted a plethora of AFDs on today's page, and the pattern I've seen is alphabetical - it's all people whose last names start with 'Aa'. He's doing it right, so I suspect there's little cause for concern, but what are your thoughts on it? --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 23:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll watch him, if anything. Like I said, it's probably nothing, but an ANI might be worth it if it keeps up. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 00:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I, E, III- King Oomie, the third. It's from an inside joke that it's been far too long to remember. And there's a reason I've since dropped the 'III' from my signature :P --KingÖomie 19:10, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Kent Blazy
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Hi there putting aside out views on the raptor Jesus article I was wondering if you could explain how the articles for deletion work and how the verdict is chosen . Also how long is to going to be left open for ? ( it was started on the 29th of September ) the old article was open for 4 days but had a lot less posts than ours. --Fansoffans (talk) 16:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Revolution
You never said that to me, and I didn't add those reviews to the infobox. You may want to give the person(s) who did the heads-up as well. CloversMallRat (talk) 01:33, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Stop blaming me for these things, please. Someone else added the bulleted list to critical reception, not me. I was going to remove the list format the other day, but I didn't get around to it. CloversMallRat (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Sorry
I'm sorry. I was wrong. I still respect you alot. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 18:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
George Barne III
The page for George Barne II needs to be detached from George Barne III's page. Barne II was his father and a Lord Mayor; needs different page, but was confused and redirected II to III.
Wiki Historian N OH (talk) 11:14, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey TenPoundHammer, I noticed you've re-tagged Cartel (band) with a {{tooshort}} tag. After extending the intro the first time, I honestly didn't feel as though it could be any longer without going into too many specific details (ie. listing the album history) which are supposed to be discussed in the main sections of the article. Remember that the article itself isn't all that long - it's difficult to have a large summary for a relatively small article! If you still feel a longer intro is necessary, could you please provide me with some ideas for extending it? Thanks. SMC (talk) 02:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
AfD and CSD; re: Johnny Action Figure
In simple words, AfD is about determining consensus whether or not to have an article on a given topic while CSD is for deletion of articles against specific criteria where the criteria have consensus but the deletion itself should be uncontroversial. (Why need I be saying this, we both contributed to the consensus for the current version of A9.) AfD assesses potential and gives interested editors the possibility to weigh in. The CSD are summary judgments according to which it is best to throw away an existing article. Ideally speedy deletions would be done equally by admins and universally endorsed at DRV (without resulting in a listing at AfD). With respect to A7 the threshold for deletion is therefore lower as that of notability, around which many AfDs rotate.
Where an AfD would have to asses whether the two albums of Johnny Action Figure are on a sufficiently important label that happens to have no article yet, two albums are some indication of importance, at the very least with respect to the thousands of bands whose article's are deleted here speedily.
Now, while I understand that in reality judgments with respect to A7 differ, such discussions are moot and counterproductive, if there is already an discussion on the merits of the topic itself at AfD. And repeated tags even more so.
So the real problem is how you arrived at the tags and that you did so repeatedly, bypassing the AFD on the album and applying an - at best - borderline A7 tag on the band's article, then re-adding that once I had declined and added the article myself to the AfD. That gives the impression that at best you think you know the outcome already and at worst that you want it deleted regardless of whatever consensus might evolve at the AfD. Normally I'd have let another admin handle the second tag, but it was still lying around this morning as one of ca 170 in the CSD queue (so bumping it over doesn't really save any time either). As already said with an open AfD to settle this, there was little benefit in waiting for a second opinion on the A7 criterion. There should in general only be few reasons to apply a speedy tag twice unless there is an obvious error in removal that cannot be clarified.--Tikiwont (talk) 19:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, asserting importance doesn't necessarily require an explicit explanation. As already said, if we consider two albums on a major indie label notable, then having two at all is something for a start and to be assessed in more detail, not to mention that they are around for ten years. Now it may be that I am with respect to CSD on the more cautious side or that I simply delete too many self posted articles form bands, and there are probably also be admins that would delete it, but I'd rather assume that 'blatantly obvious A7' is the extreme position here, noting that the article is around since 2007 when someone considered it notable.
Now, this particular AfD is somewhat stale, but in general I simply can't follow your concern that it would 'rot' there in limbo. I think that points back to the question what is driving you personally when you tag articles for CSD that are already at AfD. Isn't this this whole place in limbo anywyas?.--Tikiwont (talk) 20:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
TPH, I'm not sure what to do at this point to get you to stop being in such a rush to speedy away articles. Re-tagging articles where the speedy is already declined borders on being disruptive. You've been told before, by me and others, that this has the appearance of admin shopping. Please stop. Pretty please. Etc. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 22:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK nomination of American Ride
Hi TenPoundHammer! Just letting you know I had a minor concern with your DYK nomination of American Ride, in that it seemed slightly confusing. Maybe there is an alternative hook that is more clear ... or maybe it's just me. Your input is appreciated, cheers! Arbitrarily0(talk) 14:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Yep, your alternative hook sounds good to me! Nice work on the article by the way. Arbitrarily0(talk) 23:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for American Ride
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The bigger picture when it comes to new articles and new editors
As much as I do appreciate this, I'm concerned that the larger point might be lost in all this. I'm hoping this does not come across as patronizing (I really don't mean it to), but let me try this from another angle. Do you see the potential problems that might result from this edit that you made, including its edit summary? Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 04:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not being clear enough. What I'm trying to do is initiate a discussion with you about ways in which your approach (not just a single edit or edit summary) has the potential to scare away new editors. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 19:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. Okay, so one issue is very specific: you accused a new editor of adding "blatant lies". That's a pretty serious violation of the WP:BITE guideline. (You apologized to me for seeming snippy but haven't said anything to the editor in question.) But again, the bigger picture here is much more long-term with you. You respond to feedback as if you are taking it seriously, and you acknowledge that you are hasty sometimes (adding tags and making other edits that are careless at best, and hostile to newcomers at worst). You say the feedback has been received, but later you are right back at it, the same kind of behaviour again and again. As I said further up your talk page, I'm not quite sure what to do about this. I'll ask you: if you saw a valued, experienced editor doing things that could scare away new editors, and continuing to do so despite many instances of feedback about it, what would you do? I'll say again, I'm not intending to come across as patronizing, so I am sorry if it does. I'm honestly interested in any suggestions you have about how to approach this. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 00:09, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, those are some good ideas, and yet the problem persists. I don't know if I have any other bright ideas. I will say, though, that you seem to be at your very best when you are focussed on adding new articles and expanding articles. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 00:18, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Here's another pattern that I often see with you—some of your nominations at AfD seem to involve an indirect threat: source this article or it will be deleted! There's generally been a consensus among the community that AfD is not intended to be used in this way, the familiar phrase being "AfD is not for cleanup." It's possible that these might be more examples of how you are overly hasty when it comes to deletion. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 03:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to add that closing your own AFD with a comment of "The result was Ugh, fine. Let it rot in its unsourced, crappy state for all I care." would indicate that maybe you might want to take a break from Wikipedia. -- Whpq (talk) 17:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
TPH, I do get frustrated too about the sorry state of some articles, and how long they've been in that state. I think one avenue to pursue is to nurture new editors to help out. This is part of what I'm trying to convince you of: your behaviour (although it's clearly not your intention) can scare away new editors when we really need more editors who could do the kind of work you're saying is not getting done. Hasty deletion taggings, sarcastic comments at AfDs—it's counterproductive to the goal you have of seeing more work get done on all kinds of articles, including ones that have been "rotting" for a long while. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 00:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Eastland Mall (Bloomington, Illinois)
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Thanks ... Do think about one for Halloween! Victuallers (talk) 18:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
The Resilient Barnstar
The Resilient Barnstar
For closing an AfD with good humor. Bearian (talk) 21:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Huh, good humor? From this guy? For realsies? With good humor in the literal sense of good "haha" humor, not good "walk it off, it's just a sprain you pussy" humor? I did read it, felt it was pretty much you getting down to the level of resignation me and Gorgy are affected with regularly when it comes to unwanted articles but I'm sure I wouldn't get away with being so arch in a XfD closure. And a resilient barnstar too? So, what, were they out of Good Humor barnies? treeloradda 22:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Indices
After commenting that we don't need yet another way to categorise articles, I found that there are 316 index articles at Category:Indexes of articles. WikiProject Index consists of Transhumanist and one other editor. Perhaps the concept of indices of articles be put to an RfC to judge whether there is any value to them. Fences&Windows 02:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Thinking a little more, don't these indices need to get out of articlespace and be properly integrated into Wikipedia:Contents? Same with Outlines. Fences&Windows 02:13, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for The Shoppes at College Hills
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I'm having an issue with another user on the Linda Ronstadt discography page and I need your opinion. I just revamped her singles chart added all of the Canadian peaks and separated the singles chart into different ones. However the user continually reverts my edits because he/she thinks that the original artist who covered the song first should have a section on the chart to indicate it. This was first seen on the old singles chart before my edits and he/she says it's fine the way it was. I talked to an administrator but, they for some reason have not responded. So, to sum it up, do you think that the original artist who recorded the song should have a column on the singles chart? Perhaps I'm wrong, I just need some clarification. In any aspect, there is no reason for him to delete my hard work with removing all of the Canadian positions. What do you think? Dottiewest1fan (talk)
Thank you sir, you did not have to leave a message to the user, but thank you so much! I left a second message at the administration board, but I think it was ignored. Again thank you so much! I worked all weekend looking up Ronstadt's Canadian peaks and formatting the discography. Now I think I can move on to her albums, so thank you again =) Dottiewest1fan (talk) 17:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Your own work doesn't trump earlier work others put in. You may want to consider that next time you trash others' work. Or look to editors more experienced than yourself. --Don1962 (talk) 17:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I was referring to the post of Dottiewest1fan, not TenPoundHammer. --Don1962 (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I saw what you wrote. I'm planning on it, I had no idea there was rule. I should probably be more insightful to see the rules on Wiki for these kind of things. I don't think I will edit until around Wednesday perhaps, but thank you for telling me of that rule. I wasn't planning on reverting anyways. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello
You recently chimed in on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WoWWiki (4th nomination). Since that time, many 3rd party sources were found and added. This is just a note to see if these additions would alter your thoughts on the articles Deletion nomination, as you indicated sources were your concern. Hooper (talk) 00:18, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Boba Phat
Hi TenPundHammer:
Thanks for your review, however EVRY SINGLE reference on the site IS about Boba Phat. Have you even checked the references? they are ALL about him.
You question the notability of Boba Phat, (and yes I have 3rd party links I can reference, albeit the links are nobody of significance, just some YouTube convention attendees referring to him as an A-List Cosplayer, which he is.)
EVERY single reference provided is ACCURATE and expresses his notability among common cosplayers alike as well as a multitude of celebrities. Additionally, this past week alone he was featured in 2 print publications - Long Beach Press Telegram as well as the Daily Titan, along side his numerous online media sources. He is recognized at EVERY Comic Con & Star Wars event. His links are NOT just FICKR, Facebook & YouTube - there are a myriad of first-rate news sources who additionally address him as notable, including the LA Times, LB Post, Long Beach Press Telegram, SeattlePI, Metromix, Casey Pugh (creator of Vimeo), The Daily Titan, The Craig Ferguson Show, + more.
Additionally, he has been interviewed & will be a feature in Lucasfilm's upcoming Star Wars fan movie, as well as is presently featured in a documentary called Crashing the Con which is available for purchase through Amazon. Boba Phat makes NO MONEY off of this; he was featured simply due to his notability as an underground icon. He is also scheduled to be featured in the next issue of Star Wars Insider as he was interviewed & photographed at the latest Long Beach Comic Con for the article due to his recognizability among the copsplayer scene. Every single reference cited will take you to a link expressing his notability. There should be no issue here whatsoever. As soon as that issue hits stands, it will be referenced here.
As far as his relationship to Miss Clit, the same person worked on both Wikis, and she is notable as well, perhaps to a lesser degree, but still worthy of publicity, as she attracts crowds to Blowfly shows. Headlining with the the original inventor of rap music & multiple award-winning artist, as well as being a fixture on several of his top albums should easily convey her notability as well.
If there is anything specific you require - links or photos of the print articles or what not, please advise & I will gladly provide. Thank you for taking the time to address this. SheighZam (talk) 07:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Category:Country songs by songwriter
I expected you to see my nomination for the merging of the above category. Just in case you didn't, please have a look and comment, should you wish. --Richhoncho (talk) 12:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Picture Perfect
I'm hoping you will offer your opinion and help me figure this out. It concerns a redirected article whose AfD you recently weighed in on: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Picture Perfect (album). The decision was made to redirect Picture Perfect (album) to the performer, Soil (band). We also have the recently created Picture Perfect (Every Avenue album), which should probably also be redirected (just a track listing for a forthcoming album). But both the Soil album and the Every Avenue album will probably have real articles within a month or two. So I was wondering if you thought it would make sense to move Picture Perfect (album) to Picture Perfect (Soil album)--still redirected for the time being--and then redirect Picture Perfect (album) to the dab page Picture Perfect, where both albums are listed, as well as two others without articles (past or present). I was just trying to sort this out sensibly. Any thoughts?--ShelfSkewedTalk 13:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the second opinion. Will do!--ShelfSkewedTalk 16:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
More Linda Ronstadt discography info
Hi again. User:EdJohnston (and administrator) said that before I decide to edit the Linda Ronstadt discography again, I should speak to someone who edited it previously and let them know what they think if I edited it. I want to format the discography like all of us have done in the country music discographies. This includes formatting the albums, creating an overview, adding an "other appearances" table, etc. It would of course follow the Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style, with references and such. What do you think about this? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Lol that's not my intention. Thanks. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:12, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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Sorry. I did not want to keep that ridiculous content I made on Wikipedia. Seriously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoesquashfan5000 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
LOL, epic fail, haha. But yes, maybe the Korn's ninth can stay, but as for any more very popular groups that are title "[Name of artist]'s [nth] studio album" I'll keep you informed if I find any more. -- GunMetal Angel 19:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Why Don't We Just Dance
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Gatoclass (talk) 08:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC) 09:42, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
If you don't think you deserve the award Hammer, just remove it, I'm sure no-one will mind :) I just post the credits as they are given on the suggestions page, I don't necessarily check to see whether everyone nominated deserves the credit or not. Gatoclass (talk) 10:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
railfan close
Thanks for closing the Railfan AFD. I was trying to decide whether to close it or to !vote, and figured !voting was a better thing to do at that time. tedder (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
k.d. lang not K.d. lang
hi there,
I noticed that you moved the page k.d. lang. I think that the consensus of the debate was to move it to k.d. lang (no capitalisation at all), but it has actually been moved to K.d. lang (capitalised first letter). Is there any reason for this? Thanks. Jenafalt (talk) 09:37, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
University Mall
There's nothing I'd like better than to merge it. But then the problem is, what do we do about monstrosities like this[42] or the other Ohio malls that have articles of their very own? To be consistent, we'd have to merge them too. Given the current practice of allowing articles on Ohio malls, I don't see any alternative but to keep it. We can go on a warpath like Geronimo, proposing these articles for deletion, but then I'll bet somebody will mention that there are articles on malls in North Dakota and Saskatchewan. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 15:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps. I'm just not comfortable singling out this particular mall, when the Indian Mound Mall has a full color spread!--JohnnyB256 (talk) 15:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Requiescat in pace
I don't quite understand. The article Requiescat in pace looks like a dictionary definition. So I think it should be deleted and the content should be moved to wiktionary if appropriate. Then why not AFD? --Quest for Truth (talk) 16:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Dixie Rose Deluxe's
Why did you delete my page? I worked so f**king hard on that! I add content, I added categories, I even added a template. What else do you want???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoesquashfan5000 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Because Hickory Records is owned by Sony/ATV Music Publishing which also owns the classic Hickory Records catalogue, the revived Hickory Records is an extension of the classic Hickory Records so albums by current Hickory artists such as Elliott Yamin and Ruben Stoddard can be counted. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Actually, the article states twice that Sony/ATV Music revived Hickory Records in 2007. Steelbeard1 (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for B. Dalton
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An article whose AFD you participated in before is up at AFD again
The article Kemonomimi has been nominated for AFD a second time. I'm contacting every editor who participated in the first one, since if they were interested in it that time, they'd probably want to know the same exact article is being targeted once again. DreamFocus 03:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
He doesn't have issues, that is something all people need to learn, and I for one am sick of seeing people continously making the error as well. • GunMetal Angel 23:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Westminster Mall (Colorado)
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Hi TPH: This is a bit of a random comment from me, but when someone complains about an article on themselves, you must see how it can look really awful to disdainfully accuse them of a COI.[43] This is the stuff of satire: "I'm sorry, we can't accept your complaint about our biography on you, since clearly you have interests that go beyond ours." Your comment raised my curiosity what specifically the journalistic standards are for this sort of thing; I see the following from the Code of Ethics of the Society of Professional Journalists,[44] that journalists should "Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing." See also under "Minimize Harm," that journalists should "Recognize that gathering and reporting information may cause harm or discomfort. Pursuit of the news is not a license for arrogance." Let me acknowledge that this isn't exactly journalism, I know there's a history, and perhaps you didn't mean to dismiss his complaints. I'm just saying that you probably don't need to hammer COI on a bio-subject unless he's actually claiming editorial neutrality, as their interests are still a matter of our concern. Don't you think? Mackan79 (talk) 09:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure, I guess sometimes when my head gets to a certain velocity I like to transfer it to someone else. Anyway, it's just one place where I think WP really needs to be attentive, and to provide a clear path, even if only so that others know they'll be directed courteously through that process. Thanks for listening. Mackan79 (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Will the link to the article on Shannon Butcher from www.womenspost.ca be satisfactory in keeping the link there? That site is for an official published Canadian magazine that is actually available in physical form.[3]
My apologies if I seemed a bit defensive when I first undid your edit, but perhaps it's because I'm totally supportive of indie music artists who don't always get the attention that big, Top 40 "notable" acts do. Mentioning that an up and coming artist did a cover of a song by a big group like No Doubt doesn't hurt anyone, does it?
No hard feelings?Teknocrat123 (talk) 04:00, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I understand about the "cart-before-the-horse". However, I have noticed there have been numerous cases where an artist who is referenced briefly in another artist's Wiki article later receives his/her own. In other words, people first hear about them through one source, and as knowledge of them builds up, they eventually "earn" their own page. My question is that if you randomly create a brand new article for some topic, what guarantee is there that some diehard Wiki editor won't delete it right away as they see fit?Teknocrat123 (talk) 04:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I understand that policy...but in similar incident where I had tried to add a link for an indie artist's cover song (in this case, the song "Say Say Say" by Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson) the watchdog editor there felt it wasn't enough just to include a reliable and credible news source. It had to be an article from one of the most major newspapers like the New York Times, which is rather extreme. I think this particular person was just being overly protective and anal-retentive because they were a diehard Michael Jackson fan. And truthfully, much of the appeal of this website for me and many other people is reading articles about lesser-known or more obscure topics, not just the notable ones. For example, if Wikipedia only featured articles on big name music artists whom everyone has heard of, and on whom you can find the exact same information elsewhere, where is the value in that? Just to clarify though, I do not know Shannon Butcher nor do I represent her. I simply discovered her cover of No Doubt's "Just A Girl" recently and thought that mentioning she recorded a cover of the song on Wikipedia might interest other No Doubt fans, or music fans in general who enjoy cover songs. Nothing more. Again, I'm sorry if I got a little defensive but I think it was from my previous experience with that other Wiki editor. Teknocrat123 (talk) 04:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for The Truth (Trent Willmon song)
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Myspace.com/lisashaffer 00:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
You have a message
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Hi TenPoundHammer. Just thought I'd let you know that I reverted your A9 tag of Chasing Lights (song), then realised I was mistaken and the artist had been deleted under a different name. I'm sure you'd have lost copious amounts of sleep if you'd even noticed so, for what it's worth, sorry about that. Olaf Davis (talk) 19:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Scruples
Why do you keep adding your username to song articles citing a review that you wrote? [45] First off, it's not entirely ethical for writers to cite themselves; Secondly, it's unprofessional to use an obvious "username" to identify the author of an article; it appears rather pedestrian and amateurish. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 05:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Huh, I'd just say that it feels slightly arrogant to use his own reviews as a reference and a COI should he use any review from Roughstock, be it his or someone else's, given he does write for it. Personally, I don't have much confidence that what is being done is actually kosher even if there is disclosure of it and I question if Roughstock is a reliable publication given all cites are generated by one person. However, WP:COS seems to allow it and nobody seems to have taken you much to task besides that one time I did but it's a grey area where the policies allow it to a point but general practices and reasonable ethics say otherwise. I'm concerned, was before and don't feel this problem being swept under or just considered fine because one person said it was reliable to be the right way to deal with this issue. Hm, might be reasonable to goto WP:COIN to find out what (part of) the community thinks, it's no way a WP:AN issue yet but one for concern unless of course TPH addresses or at least comments openly on the problem itself. Here is good. treeloradda 10:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm fully aware that it's a conflict of interest, but after the discussion (seen here), and WP:COI says "Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is notable and conforms to the content policies." Similarly, as Treelo said, WP:NOR says "If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, the editor may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our neutrality policy." Roughstock is considered a reliable source by the community, and an album or single review is a useful secondary source when writing about that work. When I cite my own work, I try to quote it in a neutral fashion, and I try not to give undue weight to my own review. Regarding the use of my username, I think I'll talk to Matt and suggest re-crediting my reviews under my real name. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
You asked about it at COIN but you didn't get an answer? That isn't a discussion at all, just you asking and getting no answer at all never mind for or against. I know that silence can equal consensus but sometimes it doesn't, this may be one of those times as no answer leaves you right where you started. I have no issue with Roughstock being considered reliable if that is a general consensus but even with that, there's still the issue of you adding citations from that website. If it wasn't you citing the reviews from Roughstock it wouldn't be a big deal but I guess the issue is even if you do use your real name over a pseudonym, it's still you writing it and doesn't do away with the problem, just obfuscates it. Like I said before, I have as much issue with you adding any citation from Roughstock whether or not you wrote it because you still have an interest in it as a writer. Concerns mean nothing though if WP:COS says it's fine as long as you're writing for the right publication which seems pretty much like flipping WP:COI the finger and being allowed to use your own work as long as you're neutral in your wording. Hmm, it still doesn't sit right but what can I do? It's a net positive to the articles the cites exist in, right? No harm, no foul... yeah. treeloradda 18:31, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words. Best, Cunard (talk) 23:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Green Oak Village Place
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Gatoclass (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 01:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
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Done. By the way, I put all of Taylor Swift's singles on my watchlist as well. Eric444 (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Stupid Question, Mebbe
I've always respected your opinion, and you might have a better view on this than I do.
iTunes has many lists of songs under the category of iTunes Essentials. Most, I know, would not qualify for Wikipedia inclusion (80s Indie Rock or Alternative Christmas Hits for example). If, however, there is an iTunes Essentials listing for an artist (Bryan Adams, Big and Rich, Tim Mcgraw, Barbra Streisand, etc.), do you think it would be appropriate to list this as such on the artist's discography listing as a compilation?
My initial guess is no, but you might have a better understanding of what would qualify or disqualify it. CycloneGU (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Looks like we agree. I was also leaning towards no. Thanks for letting me run that by you. =) CycloneGU (talk) 01:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Stupid Question, Mebbe
I've always respected your opinion, and you might have a better view on this than I do.
iTunes has many lists of songs under the category of iTunes Essentials. Most, I know, would not qualify for Wikipedia inclusion (80s Indie Rock or Alternative Christmas Hits for example). If, however, there is an iTunes Essentials listing for an artist (Bryan Adams, Big and Rich, Tim Mcgraw, Barbra Streisand, etc.), do you think it would be appropriate to list this as such on the artist's discography listing as a compilation?
My initial guess is no, but you might have a better understanding of what would qualify or disqualify it. CycloneGU (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Looks like we agree. I was also leaning towards no. Thanks for letting me run that by you. =) CycloneGU (talk) 01:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Okie, coming back to this one. My question might not be so stupid, after all. iTunes Originals are worthy enough to be considered albums, but iTunes Essentials are not? Maybe there might be some light to my question...see the Alanis Morissette album iTunes Originals – Alanis Morissette. Can the two be classified distinctly? Albums can be released only on iTunes and listed defunct of notability, so should iTunes Essentials be listed? Would give me a project...mind, many discographies would omit BOTH works while iTunes would show both, of course... CycloneGU (talk) 03:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Other "attacks in Australia" articles
You may want to research their histories. About half of them Every last one of them was created in the last 2 weeks by the same editor. All of them are dubiously sourced and contain the same WP:SYN problems. There's been a centralised discussion about it at WP:AWNB for a few days, including about the POV nature of the word "attack". Orderinchaos 06:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi there;
This edit summary can be seen as a personal attack/uncivil, try and avoid those please. Thanks, GrooveDog • i'm groovy. 18:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you're right, that was bad. So much wikistress. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Heh, 'tain't no dingus that's for sure though dumbass is much less classy. treeloradda 19:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Not a big deal, just a heads up. :) GrooveDog • i'm groovy. 19:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikinfo
I don't know why you are suddenly yelling at me, or why you think that this is an article. We don't disagree that this shouldn't be an article. This is a project page draft. Yes, I haven't touched it in a long time, but MfD has long since established that there are no deadlines to such things if they are not being disruptive and do hold some realistic chance of finally being updated (which I've now done). I'll gladly dig up prescient to support me on this, if you wish, but that's not really relevant anymore.
Do you oppose this becoming a project page? -- Ned Scott 22:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
If I had not put {{doing}} on however many hours ago, the bot would have archived it on its next pass through WP:PR. I will review it in the next 6 or 7 hours. I have read through it quickly and it looks pretty good to me so far, but there are some nitpicks I can mention ;-) Ruhrfisch><>°° 19:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
P.S. I've always thought you had a great user name and signature. Take care, Ruhrfisch><>°° 20:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for letting me know. My only other thought is to search on Shenadoah and the name(s) of the band members - that might filter out some false positives. Ruhrfisch><>°° 18:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it is OK - I just checked one of those refs, current 43, here. I assume there was a magazine called "Country Weekly" and this is a reprint of the original article (courtesy of the Internet Archive to make things confusing). Anyway, there is an author cited (it appears) listed: Nick Krewen. I would add the author's name too. Ruhrfisch><>°° 02:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I still think you can use it - even if it were jsut the band's website I think it would be OK, but since they are quoting a reliable secondary source, I would make that clear (give the author and magazine name) and use the ref. Ruhrfisch><>°° 02:53, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
GAN Reba McEntire
A few months ago (sorry about the wait) you nominated Reba McEntire for GA status. I have done a review at Talk:Reba McEntire/GA1. I have some comments/questions there. -maclean (talk) 20:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Approval to nominate you for adminship?
Although your previous nominations seemed to have failed, most seemed to have more supporting users than opposition. You most likely may be tired of these nominations popping up but that is what leads me to believe that you indeed have pontential to become a administrator. The-Giant-Andrew (talk) 23:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
He has been been given the scarlet letter some time back, he may never be an admin here. Also, admins are waaay too high falutin' to be calling people dingus and dumbass, don't need his straight-talkin' type there none. treeloradda 00:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, guess what? I don't like this Giant-Andrew fella either, got into the creation game pretty sharpish with a new article and then goes off to AfDs and SPI cases? His new articles seem a bit suspicious too, just copypastes of whole articles in one edit, not the usual way you'd expect but then this little gem doesn't really go to any great length in trying to dispel my suspicions but only seems to re-enforce them given only a banned user would feel their constructive edits should stand even though said banned user shouldn't even be making said edits, good or otherwise. Hm, don't know who it is but I do know it's someone who is returning and under a shadow. treeloradda 00:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Delete all except the duo categories per Postdlf. Most groups that aren't duos change numbers over time, so categorizing by number will be very difficult. Also, I should point out that Category:Sibling trios was deleted, so Category:Sibling musical trios should go as well. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:13, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you removed the part of the Rax Roast Beef article referring to Rax being cobranded with Long John Silvers at certain locations. I have eaten at a combination Rax/Long John Silvers in Hillsboro, Ohio and at West Union, Ohio within the last month so I can verify that there are indeed co-branded locations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.11.6.14 (talk) 16:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Roll, roll, look, repeat
Really? OK, this is another one of your "why won't anyone join in my toil?" Sisyphean complaints, I get that but really? If you can share with me or anyone else how to fix the incomplete AfD noms then you won't be alone in fixing things. It's an undocumented dark art to me so sharing is good especially if you have a fairly simple method of doing it which doesn't require cross-checking. treeloradda 17:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm still serious about you telling me yknow. I did see the Tony Bonello redlink too but then I wasn't feeling overly prone to leaving jerky edit comments or bugging a guy for not nominating straight. A wikibreak might be due until you feel less tense, it's reflecting bad on you right now. treeloradda 20:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Okay, yeah. Just remove the redlink from the log, remove the redlinked afd template from the article if it's there, then file a new AFD in Twinkle, which should automate everything. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:10, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Huh, sounds sweet. What about those AfDs which miss the third hurdle, how do you find those out, is it the same way? treeloradda 20:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Third hurdle? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, step 3, the posting on the log itself. treeloradda 21:14, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
If they did steps 1 and 2 already, all's you have to do is transclude it by putting {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/whatever the AFD page is}} on the log. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
But then that's expecting you to already know what AfD needs to be added, sometimes you don't because it hasn't been transcluded. See, someone does all the stages upto transclusion in the log, how do you find that AfD out there alone and get it onto the log? Categories? treeloradda 22:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I actually noticed the redlink also, but my approach is to message the editor who started it, because often they just don't know the correct process. If they still don't complete it, then I either untag the page or complete the nomination myself. Don't worry, you're not alone. MrKIA11 (talk) 19:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Sorry
Sorry, I was just trying to help. I found that page and it said it needed volunteers to clear the backlog. Mayor of Gotham City (talk) 01:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayor of Gotham City (talk • contribs)
The link above should take you to the Google Maps streetview picture of the Long John Silvers/Rax in West Union, Ohio. The signage is clearly visible in the photo showing both LJS and Rax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.11.6.14 (talk) 01:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I meant to tell you a few days prior, but thank you for making Reba's article a GA, I just saw the rating on her talk page. =) Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh ok then, but I also meant all of the corrections you made. I saw that some users kinda messed it up a little after I did and I saw that you fixed it up, so thanks. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you
The Cleanup Barnstar
For cleaning up the mess I made at AfD, and for all of your other work there, I thank you. Danger (talk) 05:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Your personal assessment of the quality of the citations is not relevant as a criterion for speedy deletion. I see the article has been deleted with no discussion and despite the placement of the hangon tag. Please don't leave Wikipedia-related messages for me on the Jeopardy! message board, [47] or use the Jeopardy! message board to further deletion agendas. Robert K S (talk) 20:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
"I showed the article to an administrator; he looked it over and agreed that an A7 was valid even with your hangon." Yes, I see that. In other words, you have decided to bypass the basic consensus process by which the encyclopedia operates by exploiting a personal relationship with an editor who has administrative tools. When a speedy delete is contested, the article deserves to go through the standard deletion process.
"I have no sort of 'agenda' regarding your articles"--this isn't about "my" articles, but you do have a deletionist agenda. You would much prefer an article describing a notable subject to be removed from the encyclopedia than improved if you are unaware of or disinterested in the article subject matter and if the article is not already self-proving in several other respects (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OxiClean_(2nd_nomination))
"I have noticed in the past that you are viciously defensive of anything you edit"--you're implying a causation when it's just a correlation. I'm defensive of articles and content that I see as significant and deserve to be in the encyclopedia, because there are editors like you who make it a mission to destroy content, and, inevitably, things get whittled away to nothing if no one is present to defend them. The fact that I am defending the article in question is a consequence of having been notified about it, by you, on my talk page. Your adjective "viciously" is merely an ad hominem pejorative, one that might be applied to any editor's action, and using language like that doesn't constitute a step toward productive consensus building. In this case, a contested deletion wasn't even given a chance. I don't see how placing a "hangon" tag can in any way be construed a "vicious" action. Cheers, Robert K S (talk) 20:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Your hangon was laughably weak, chummer. The onus is on you to prove that an article does not satisfy a speedy deletion criterion by using the article's talk page, and providing ampleproof of your position. Otherwise, the article will be speedied.
And, to clarify, I was in the process of deleting the article when you posted the hangon; I never saw it and even if I did I would still have speedied because the hangon rationale was incredibly weak and lacked evidence proving it. -Jeremy(v^_^vStop... at a WHAMMY!!) 20:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
A7 states that an article must indicate its subject's significance. The article did do that, in several ways (it stated correctlly that the organization is a decade+ old national quiz tournament and also that the tournament's trophy is the new home of the trophy of a large but now-defunct professional wrestling organization, among probably a few other significance-qualifiers which I cannot now point to because the article has been deleted improperly). Your first message to me only indicates you have a misunderstanding of A7, as you were asking about cited sources. A7 doesn't relate to an article's sources. An article with no cited sources is not properly deleted under A7 for that reason alone. Further, a hangon tag is simply that: "hangon, don't delete this without discussion". It does not need to contain an extensive rationale. It needs merely to be placed. My intent in placing it was to place it quickly. By deleting the article in spite of the hangon tag, the purpose of the hangon tag has been subverted by you and your administrator friend. Robert K S (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I never saw the hangon, Rob, and even if I did I still would have speedied. Please pay attention; I'm not TenPoundHammer. -Jeremy(v^_^vStop... at a WHAMMY!!) 20:42, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I know you're not TPH, and I wasn't replying to you. There was an edit conflict and I simply posted my message after yours. I don't think you are following the established process (speedying even in view of a hangon). Robert K S (talk) 20:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I will say this again: I never saw the hangon tag because you posted it while I was on the deletion page. How many times do I have to say it, chummer? -Jeremy(v^_^vStop... at a WHAMMY!!) 20:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome to call me Robert instead of "chummer". The fact of the matter is that the hangon tag was placed and it was improper to speedily delete the article with such a tag in place. The tag does not require an elaborate explanation. It does not require any explanation; it merely requires having been placed. Robert K S (talk) 20:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Wrong. A hangon tag means that an explanation as to why you think the article should be kept is forthcoming on the article's talk page. And the article did not establish notability. -Jeremy(v^_^vStop... at a WHAMMY!!) 20:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
As an uninvolved admin, I can affirm that the article was an easy A7, and even with a hangon tag applied the deletion was well within policy. I suggest, Robert K S, that if you feel it was incorrect, you take it to deletion review, where you're likely to get the same response; in the meantime, hounding the deleting admin, who's well within his rights to remove messages from his talk page, is a bad idea and you should stop now. Tony Fox(arf!) 22:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do that, although I don't understand why there seems to be a need for secrecy and subversion of the typical deletion process, and I don't see why, given the timely hangon tag and the opposition to the article's speedy deletion, it would not be appropriate to simply restore the article and allow it the usual deletion discussion. I think it's unusual for an administrator to unceremoniously scrub his talk page of civil, appropriately signed remarks that address administrative issues--it smacks of hiding something. Robert K S (talk) 23:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I told you why I kept removing your messages, chummer (to keep the discussion from being splintered here and at my talk page). Users are permitted to remove any message or warning they want from their talk page (barring block notices for active blocks, unblock requests concerning same, and shared IP headers); it doesn't mean I'm hiding anything because it's all still in the page's history. -Jeremy(v^_^vStop... at a WHAMMY!!) 00:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Wanting to keep a discussion in one place is not a reason for scrubbing one's talk page. Robert K S (talk) 00:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Robert, drop it. I've every right to remove messages from my talk page, as has been pointed out several times by others, and now I'm telling you to stay off my talk page and restrict any more discussion of this here. -Jeremy(v^_^vStop... at a WHAMMY!!) 01:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
And I was just getting used to being called "chummer". Robert K S (talk) 02:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Only You Can Love Me This Way
Thanks for reminding me that "my" grammar was terrible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoesquashfan5000 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Only You Can Love Me This Way
I was actually being sarcastic, hence ""My"". That grammar wasn't mine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoesquashfan5000 (talk • contribs) 01:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
DYK for The Yellow Rose (song)
On November 4, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Yellow Rose (song), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I see what you're saying, but each of the listed disadvantages were true by reasons of logic, not of research nor opinion. For example, a roundabout, because it has a central island, must therefore be larger than an intersection without a central island, therefore, it takes up more space. This is not original research nor opinion, it is readily obvious fact. Likewise, one would not need to cite a source for saying that 2x4=8 or that an apple grows on a tree, as they cannot be challenged nor is likely to be challenged. The advantages section was also free of sources but was not deleted, but the same is true. Roundabouts do not rely on electrical signals, therefore they function equally during power outages: This fact cannot be challenged and thus should not need a citation. In spite of this, I will dig up some references, but the deletion of this section appears to be arbitrary. If there was challengeable content, it should have been tagged as needing a citation rather than deleted in full.Bigfitz79 (talk) 19:14, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Rickrolling
Hey there. Some guy is trying to readd all the In popular culture text to the Rickrolling article. I'm not really in the mood to get into an edit war with him, so could you chime in on the talk page and give your thoughts? — HelloAnnyong(say whaaat?!) 20:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
On November 5, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Village of Rochester Hills, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Someone vandalized the Gary Allan article beyond my ability to repair it. Can you take a look at it? Thanks!Wikibones (talk) 19:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Wheel of Fortune wheel configuration
The Wheel configuration redirect was an outdated link to the sub-article which was AfD'd quite a while ago. No further need for it. JTRH (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I posted the above on the deletion discussion page, but it seems to have been speedied before I got there. No problem. JTRH (talk) 23:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
FAR
TPH, both YM and I have explained the one nom rule to you; I've had to remove your noms twice at FAR. Yet you just put up another nom, when the Sly and the Family nom has only been up about a week. Please follow the instructions at WP:FAR. You can nominate another FAR once the status on your first one is more clear. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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On the "Bubbling Under the Hot 100" page, you say that Joel Whitburn says that the ever-mysterious "Ready N Steady" by D.A. does indeed exist. Do you have a cite for this? Thanks.RMc (talk) 13:14, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of User:Septemberboy009/Blades_(band). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Gigs (talk) 14:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
You actually removed a hangon tag?
Resolved
This dogpile on TPH thread is a disgrace. One or two messages would have sufficed.—S MarshallTalk/Cont 18:32, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
First of all, there are only three contributors here, and only one of them was actually led here by the discussion I began at the Speedy policy page. Secondly, it's been like pulling teeth to try to get TPH and the other admins he involved in the speedies at issue to see why what they did was not in line with policy. They were not even willing to concede there might have been any issue, or that anything was done inappropriately. I had no idea that TPH had deleted my hangon tag until the article was undeleted and somebody brought it up in the DRV discussion. I found it more than a little outrageous. Coupled with the off-site communications, the virtually instant speedy zappings, and the deletions of messages to an administrator's talk page, this case has all the trappings of a conspiracy and cover-up. When something like that happens, a respectful confrontation cannot be called a "disgrace". It's simply appropriate. Robert K S (talk) 18:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
How am I refusing to see what I did was not in line? I admitted that yes, it was a mistake, and I asked for an overturn in the DRV. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm satisfied that you now have fully acknowledged all the many ways this incident was mishandled. But do you realize how much time and effort it took to get to this place? If at any point along the way you had just said, "Gee, somebody opposes what I'm doing, maybe I ought to give them a chance to see if the opposing position has any merit"... Food for thought. Thanks. Robert K S (talk) 19:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
What were you thinking? [48] What's the purpose of a hangon tag if it just gets removed instantly by the nominator? And why did you never even mention this little point when your administrator friend kept pleading that he hadn't seen the hangon tag? Robert K S (talk) 15:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
TPH, I'm becoming very concerned about your editing and some of your failure to understand Wiki policies, procedures and guidelines. Please try to better understand Wiki policies, or I suggest that an WP:RFC/U to examine your editing might be warranted. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
We went over this. The hangon simply said "does not meet A7" or something like that, without explaining how it didn't meet A7. The other admins thought that my removal was justified — if you put a hangon, you're supposed to explain why you think it needs a hangon; and even then, hangon isn't a free pass from an A7. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
No, that's not how it works. Nominator places speedy tag. Opposer places hangon tag. Opposer then adds additional commentary to talk page. In this case I was being extra thorough by filling in the optional "reason" parameter. Challenger has no obligation to list an elaborate rationale inside the tag (the whole point is to get the tag placed quickly as a notification that more is coming, hence "hangon"). On the contrary, nominator has obligation not to remove the tag. This is apparently so obvious that there is even opposition on this very basis for not adding a guideline explicitly making this clear. [49] "It's a user-specific issue rather than something that needs to be addressed in policy." The article was deleted before there was even time to write up a full rationale on the talk page. Robert K S (talk) 17:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
(ec) Err, if you refer with "we went over this" to above section, you're drawing a wrong conclusion: They merely say that the article was a clear A7 even with the hangon tag, considered weak. That still does not change a bit that the author has a right to speak ( wekaly if you want), that removing it is (another) bad idea with respect to speedies which is explicitly advised against in the template itself. See also Wikipedia_talk:CSD#Speedy nominator should not be allowed to remove hangon tag which brought me here.--Tikiwont (talk) 17:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) You know what? I fudged that up severely, I admit. I'm not making a good case for my status as a good editor, am I. That's why I suggested an overturn at the DRV. I was wrong, and it seems Jéské and Tony Fox were too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:00, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't notice the related DRV, otherwise I might not have piled on. I can't offer you a full appreciation of your good contribution here right now, but relaxing about the speedy stuff is the one advice I have here. If it so god-dammed obvious as you always think, surely some else will notice too, and things will sort out without you pushing, no? --Tikiwont (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
TPH, I have to second that query. Your edits have had me chasing my tail at FAR and AFD for several days now. Please slow down and be sure to read and understand Wiki policies and instructions before initiating processes. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Everything seems to take too long here; that's my main problem. I've seen stuff that's been sitting here since I was a n00b just because no one could be arsed to "sort it out." Like say, a four-year-old article whose notability is now in question by two editors. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
TPH, by failing to understand policy and read instructions, you only make things take longer, while taking time that other editors might use more constructively. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:14, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Two editors out of how many on Wikipedia? At least we now have the full admission that your impatience is behind all this wikistress. Chillax. Things take time. Robert K S (talk) 18:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
TPM, since you closed the AFD yourself, please be sure to complete the templating on the talk page. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Cryin' for Me (Wayman's Song)
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Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 05:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
I think it makes sense to reformat this as a page on the original Fleming version, minus the OR on NBC's programming strategy unless it can be sourced, and make the main page about the current show with no background on the original, sort of the way the Wheel of Fortune daytime show page was spun off from the original article. JTRH (talk) 00:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Maggie Bandur
re:"Where were all those sources when I googled her?" - They were to be sifted from among 18 thousand+ of web litter. I simply refined search, like, "maggie bandur was", "maggie bandur said", etc. For me, it is a larger part of fun: solving puzzles, untangling threads, filling gaps, etc. I mostly play these games and leave writing for "graphomaniacs". I am usually careful not to leave too vulnerable stubs (how about nominating some of my recent ones, for a bet :-)?), but this one was done sloppily indeed. - Altenmann >t 05:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
P.S. That said, I am a deletionist myself. How about applying your hammer to numerous rappers and their garage record labels? I've spent several months patrolling the area and mopping them out, but finally decided let them 'hood gangstas make some buck in peace. - Altenmann >t 05:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
The Fame
Please chime in here, I am interested in your opinions. Note my comments are for the second thread, not the first. Bit of a discussion on whether a special edition should be included and it was omitted right after I placed it. CycloneGU (talk) 12:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Shenandoah
Sorry I don't have this issue --Caldorwards4 (talk) 03:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Do you know the issue date? The article was first posted to their website in October 2003 and reads like it was written in 2001 ("It's hard to believe the group Shenandoah celebrated their 15th anniversary last year.") Eric444 (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I've been through every issue that I have from 2000 through 2003, but I couldn't find the article. Eric444 (talk) 22:13, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
CD singles
That's not true, because they send the CD singles out to country radio stations. They just don't release them in stores very often. A country song can't chart purely on a digital download-only release, because country music charts are strictly airplay, which would come from the CD singles. CloversMallRat (talk) 23:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Well forgive me for not being aware that your DJs don't use the CD singles. Anyway, it changes nothing - that's the whole point of the Musicrow calendar, because those dates have nothing to do w/ digital release dates. For example, Sara Evans' last single "Feels Just Like a Love Song" came out to radio about a month before it was digitally released. CloversMallRat (talk) 23:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
The two speedies that were overturned
[Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2009_November_4#Game_Show_Congress_.28closed.29] Should the articles be sent to AfD? Enigmamsg 02:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Feel free for yourself or anyone else to list at AFD, the deletion review only overturned the speedy deletions it did not decide that the articles should not be deleted at all. Davewild (talk) 19:53, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
WP:HAMMER needs some tweaking?
I adore HAMMER and it's likely saved thousands of hours of user time in trying to explain some basic concepts. I see it's been a few months without updates and I wanted you opinion on perhaps changing a few things. 1) Text between sections seems somewhat randomly throw together and might be made a bit more clear (such as the band that doesn't yet exist being included in the top section related more to music), and then 2) some unofficial pointers on applying it to other things, video games and other software specifically. Say, set a bland standard of needing screenshots some kind of article besides a short "has announced"? Even that might be generous, but it would be in line with other games that were canceled during production that do have articles. Thoughts? I figured asking you directly, though you don't own it and I could have done this anyway, but I'd say you have the most comprehensive view on the matter and a consult couldn't hurt. Thanks! ♪daTheisen(talk) 23:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Home-Made Barnstar
Regarding WP:HAMMER I think you have done a fine thing in creating this page. I think it will be extremely helpful to newer editors. Kudos Hell In A Bucket (talk) 23:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Pop Songs
Hi, can I ask a question of you? Wouldn't you agree that the Pop Songs chart is acceptable on articles on songs? Candyo32 (talk) 01:28, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
TPH, Wikipedia:Featured article review/Sly & the Family Stone/archive2 provides a good illustration for how FAR should work: "The aim is to improve articles rather than to demote them." Once a nomination moves to the FARC phase, it will be there for at least two weeks, during which time hopefully improvements will occur. Sly is much improved now over the article that came to FAR two weeks ago, but premature declarations make YM's job harder. Before a Keep is declared, when all else is in order, it is helpful to ping in someone to review sources and images. In this case, there are several sourcing problems, and some editors who may be willing or able to improve the sourcing. It may be helpful to wait until further along in the FARC process to declare Keep or Delist. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but if I recall, awhile back there was some questioning over whether Patsy Cline's posthumous discography should be merged in with the regular discography article. I'm doing some editing on both pages, and I want just to clarify my reasons before anyone else might argue. I personally think both articles should be kept separate, but here's why:
Unlike most deceased artists discographies, Patsy Cline's has one of the far lengthier posthumous ones. After her death, Decca/MCA Records released and issued quite a number of compilation albums that should be referred to as notable because of the amount of records they have sold, chart positions, RIAA certifications, etc. Plus the singles chart is also large because of the amount of singles/hits released after her death. It is much to overwhelming to try to include everything into one discography. I think it would be easier to read, and people would be able to understand ever more about what was released during her lifetime as opposed to what was released after her lifetime. Do you follow what I am saying? It wouldn't work with someone like Keith Whitley because he hasn't had as much success after his death. It just makes more sense this way. If the Jimi Hendrix discography and the Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography are equally separated, then why can't this one be? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Roy D. Mercer. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").
Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy D. Mercer. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).
You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.
Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:09, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Just thought this interesting. CycloneGU (talk) 16:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
TaskMaker
A month later, he asks... ;) No, it's OK, there is no time limit - my offer stands until I die, leave Wiki, lose/break the CD-ROM, etc. I'll leave it up to you as to what you want to add, so check your e-mail! It's a big-un, so let me know if you got it. BOZ (talk) 14:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Ready, Set, Don't Go
Sorry for saying that and sorry for adding unsourced info. I already removed it. And I didn't see the pursue thing. One thing, the digital download part should be the way I had it. Many articles are GA and have it like that. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:27, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
"The Long Haul"
This is a Brooks & Dunn song, I'm hearing it right now but I see it nowhere on their discography. Was this scrapped as a single or something? --Lost Fugitive (talk) 19:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
How's this for an opening line from the (now deleted) article Necrokinesis?
Necrokinesis is a Speed/Thrash Metal band from Cambridge, UK, we have started out very recently and are still looking for a permanent drummer. If we had to compare our sound to another band (which we do not like to do), we would most likely compare it to the controlled chaos of bands such as Megadeth and Testament.
Your law works well! Stephen!Coming... 17:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
That's a good one. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Here's one I nom'd under the Law...opens with...
Bright Black Heaven is the second studio album by American electronica band Blaqk Audio...The album was first made known in an interview with jade on myYearbook.com. --SquidSK(1MC•log) 00:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Talkback from Gongshow
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Hi, thanks for the information, but I fail to see how using language that is grammatically incorrect can be tolerated simply because the RIAA uses it on their website. If that is the rationale, doesn't that also mean that it has to be in capitals as well? i.e. "5 TIMES MULTI PLATNIUM", as the RIAA website uses that font. Darwin's Bulldog (talk) 03:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Why? Because the otters are on strike for better pay! :) I couldn't get an archive bot to work for me at all. I gave up. - Sinneed 04:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Need You Now
I would really much appreciate your assistance. I uploaded the album cover for Lady A's Need You Now, but I didn't change the file name so it uploaded to the single cover page and it's just all a mess now...EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 23:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
There's some problem with the AFD notice in the article which is not linking correctly to the discussion. I'm not sure what the problem is or I'd fix it myself. Please can you correct this as this makes it difficult for editors to locate the discussion.
In the discussion, I have commented that you have changed your views from the previous nomination without explanation - you may wish to clarify this. Also, please see the discussion at Talk:List_of_female_stock_characters#List in which an editor expresses his appreciation for this work. Why did you nominate this article for AFD without joining such discussions first? My theory is that this tends to happens because AFD is made easy by Twinkle and similar tools which do not provide similar options for ordinary talk page discussion. As you're a regular, your input would be helpful. Colonel Warden (talk) 13:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Note
Hello! I apologize for posting on your talk page, but I do not know if you have the discussion watch listed. Anyway, please note that I am undertaking a significant revision here using sources found on Google Books to add definitions of the characters as well as academic analysis of the concept in general. Given your stance in the previous discussion, please reconsider this time around. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 18:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Is that your doppelgänger (Eight Ounce Kitten is similar to TenPoundHammer?) and the link is bad, or is someone impersonating you? Шизомби (talk) 01:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found this a few times, and I wonder if this is an example of hitting one's self with a hammer? Whilst monitoring the CAT:NNSD page, I came across Carl hudson. Looking at the page history, I was surprised to notice that it only had one entry. Looking at the edit, the editor had created the article, including the {{db-bio}} tag. Puzzled, I looked at the editor's other deleted contributions, and found it was an almost exact copy of Carl Hudson; the only bit that was removed was the {{hang-on}} tag - the one thing that might have preserved it for a few minutes longer. So with that in mind...
Buxton's colliary to Hammer's Law: If you recreate a speedily deleted article and tag it yourself for deletion, do not be surprised if it gets deleted. This is like carrying a snowball to the lake of fire in Hades, pouring on lighter fluid, and wondering why you can't build your snowman.
Hope you and the Otters have a fun Christmas! Stephen!Coming... 00:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
TV Tropes
I'm just wondering, what's your opinion of TV Tropes? --LordNecronus (talk) 00:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, nice to see another troper, then! :) It's just, I noticed your recent edit to the TV Tropes article (unsourced claims template), and I was wondering what your stance on TV Tropes was. Also, I'm personally curious as to why you put the template there - the article is pretty well-sourced in my opinion, but I'd like to see your take on it. --LordNecronus (talk) 01:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I added the "Metallica Rejects" portion of The Kentucky Headhunters page because that's what myself and my friends called them. I don't see this as being a bad thing at all! I've always liked the band and have had nothing but respect for them! It's not a bad title!!! After all, Metallica has sold over 100 million albums! Whisper Goodguy (talk) 07:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I have come across the album on your to-do list and have filled in the songwriters so you can take it off. Happy 2010, I feel so alone without you watching out for things around here!. Publichall (talk) 07:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Your opinion
Hi! I'm not very experienced with notability in music, but I've decided to ask you this (since you're a member of WP Music): What's your opinion about the article I Don't Speak the Language/Bouncin' off the Walls? It's short, the article has poor track listing format and "Break My Stride" is probably one of the only songs that claimed Matthew Wilder's popularity. I don't know if it should it be deleted (all of the other songs do not have articles on their version), but I just wanted to hear from you! :-) Schfifty3 02:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
The article Shenandoah (band) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Shenandoah (band) for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations upon reaching the 50 DYK milestone with your contributions of article creations and expansions. Marvelous! Binksternet (talk) 19:08, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Congratulations, you're funny
The Barnstar of Good Humor
This may have been "poor timing", but it was absolutely hilarious. SwarmTalk 04:21, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Baa is greatly tickled by this even if it was a way easier slamdunk than this barnie indicates. baa!radda 11:51, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Great job on this! I'm a huge Krauss fan. Staxringoldtalkcontribs 00:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Music Barnstar
For your great work on country music articles, I award you this much overdue barnstar. Chris (talk) 04:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Mediabase
It is true that on Wikipedia, we only use the Billboard charts and not the Mediabase ones? After all, I have never seen anything but the Billboard ones included in song article charts. That is until recently, user:Emgee1129 continues to make edits to several country articles, in particular "Unstoppable (Rascal Flatts song)" and continues to revert edits by myself as well as user:Caldorwards4. I'd appreciate it, if you'd maybe step in and do something, because you seem to be pretty good at dealing with stuff. =) CloversMallRat (talk) 16:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for actually explaining why instead of just giving me a random "it's not a valid chart" line. I won't post that chart anymore.--Emgee1129 (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I rescued two well-sourced subsections of the "example farm" that you removed from this article 3 months ago (citing lack of sources). The resulting section can be found here. Any objections? Ks0stmIf you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 05:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Actually, someone else undid my edit afterwords saying the example formats haven't been covered in the media, and I decided, upon them saying the article should have no examples, to just let it be. That discussion is on the article's talk page. Ks0stmIf you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 01:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Becker
Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Becker (TV series), without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. TomCat4680 (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
1. Please don't template the regulars. 2. The tone is totally informal and inappropriate (i.e., referring to a character as "bitchy"). 3. None of these characters seems important enough to warrant even a section. We don't need to list every character. 4. The content was entirely unsourced original research, and it is perfectly acceptable to remove unsourced original research within reason. I probably should've explained this in my edit summary. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong
I never said it was an abbreviation, but somehow on the charts its ended up shortened for whatever reason, even though the song itself is "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong" not just "Wrong Baby Wrong" ... for one thing, that makes no sense, because the lyric from the song refers to it being repeated as such in the title, and without that its not proper. CloversMallRat (talk) 04:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
CSD I simply cannot be bothered to remember all of the different deletion criteria and where what is to be posted and how. I know that smacks of some amount of laziness and intransigence, but I simply have other things to do. Please don't think I'm being rude; I genuinely appreciate your note, but my policy is to simply mark it as C/A/T/MfD and if someone else knows the rules better than me, it will get closed and deleted. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
"We certainly can connect several of them," said Tom Crowley an agent with the ATF who spoken to CNN[55]
--Dashbullder (talk) 02:44, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I decided not to include this bit of information because it doesn't come from a major news source but investegators are now also looking into churchs that burned last december.
In other words the list of Churchs in the article may be growing soon in two directions.
It's also of note that this person (or group) is only burning churchs which makes this smack of a hate crime. --Dashbullder (talk) 03:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
If you think the article needs to be improved then help improve it. You clearly know how to keep it from being synthesized or whatever --Dashbullder (talk) 03:07, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Erik Baker to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. (talk→BWilkins←track) 11:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
...and I removed the PROD, now that I see the AfD. Must be too early in the morning. Cheers. (talk→BWilkins←track) 11:15, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
reverted restoration of PROD
Im aware that there's a proposal to change the PROD policy as it applies to BLP's such that PROD's cannot be removed without first adding sources to the article. As far as I know, though, that policy has not passed yet, and so I've removed the PROD tag on Sarah G. Buxton and I recommend AfD. ♥Soap♥ 16:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems your attempt to get Here Comes The Kraken speedy deleted was declined by a subjective consideration of WP:MUSIC. The AfD, however, is still in progress. Thanks! Warrah (talk) 02:54, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Black sitcom
To be honest, I think I've got too much on hand, my main focus is on Bosnian subjects where there's an awful lot of mess to be cleared up and additions to be made. I get infuriated at Wikipedia's destructivist, otherworldyist, Anglophonist and in this instance (hopefully) unconsciously racist tendencies but these visits to the Articles for Deletion tend to suck too much energy out of other endeavours. But if I have a moment or two I'll try. Opbeith (talk) 22:43, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
I've now expanded it but it could do with review by someone with a closer acquaintance with the issues. Opbeith (talk) 12:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
If the article is speediable, a CSD tag should be put on it. An admin will review according to the WP:CSD criteria. Once the CSD tag is on it, there's no need to put it up for AfD.
If the article is up for AfD, it's being discussed by the community. Therefore, anyone tagging it for CSD is subverting the process. If, however, an admin decides (during the AfD) that it really *was* CSD-able, they should close the AfD and delete the article.
I just have to ask... what's a "trout writer"? TJRC (talk) 00:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah; I thought you were calling the guy a "trout writer": I was thinking maybe a Kilgore Trout connection. Thanks for the clue. TJRC (talk) 02:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Court Yard Hounds
Hello TPH. I have reviewed your recent nomination at DYK and have left a small concern. Thanks in advance. Kindly CalmerWaters 01:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the response. You're right, it could use a source & I'll sort it.--BelovedFreak 22:24, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For clearing out a massive backlog that's been up for nearly 3 years, I hereby award you this Tireless Contributor's Barnstar. Great work! Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 03:23, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
James House (singer) birthday
Uh, you reverted it to March 21 in the box listing. It's March 22. You had it right before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.62.133 (talk) 17:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Oops, sorry, it was JuventiniFan's mistake, not yours. (Sugar Bear (talk) 20:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC))
DYK for Chris Waters
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Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Isaacsolomon/Isaac Solomon, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This is a draft in userspace - some leniency that editor understands WP:COI and WP:N. Thank you. (talk→BWilkins←track) 16:59, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Are you aware if anyone's ever proposed making prod removal limited to autoconfirmed users? Or even, limited to users who didn't create the article they're editing? It'd be easy to implement with abuse filter and would save the trouble of the AfD like above. Shadowjams (talk) 18:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Sources
Added sources to both Steam-Con and 2d or not 2d animation festival's pages. Anything else I need to add? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaacada1 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
So off deletion now
Excellent. Thanks. So will both Steamcon and 2dornot2d be taken off the up for deletion now? I also added a bunch of sources as well for Rainfurrest. Isaacada1 (talk) 19:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)isaacada1
Removing links after merges
After merging content and converting a page to a redirect, there is no reason to remove the links to the redirect. Especially in the cases where ambiguity remains, removing hatnotes or removing links from disambiguation pages like this creates problems with the navigation of the encyclopedia. Links to redirects are acceptable and often useful. I've restored the links necessary for navigation, but others that aren't circular redirects after the merge should also be left intact. -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
PROD nomination of Dean Aspen (formerly Dean aspen actor)
Hi, you prodded this article. Do you find acceptable if it's redirected to List of Hollyoaks characters instead? Jarkeld (talk) 21:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
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Hi Hammer, I'd recommend withdrawing your nomination for deletion of Fourth Studio Album (Rihanna album) as its previous RfD was closed as "keep" a week and a half ago. The current discussion now has a link to the previous one. B.Wind (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree with your closing sentiment, but we can't fight consensus. At least we can watch the prod of Fourth Studio Album as a "consolation prize." On a side note, what do you think of ARC Weekly Top 40 and its sister pages? B.Wind (talk) 05:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I would like to let you know that this information has been gathered from Mr. Kent Emmons specifically for the wikipedia posting and there is no copyright violation.
This content is not a "copy and paste" material from other websites.
Perhaps, we have posted some part of the available information to our primary website as well, http://www.kentemmons.com/ since we are maintaining and managing content for website and Wikipedia listing both some information is obviously similar.
I have tried updating the wiki page with the correct information, perhaps, you have deleted it again, I would like to request you to allow us publish the correct information.
For,Kent Emmons, CEO / Founder
Emmons Media Group
Kent Direct!
K-Bank Equity Partners
Beverly Hills CA 90210
Hi Woogee,
If possible, can you see how much of the information can be re-added to the article?
As you said Kent Emmons' own website, http://www.kentemmons.com may be cited as a source within the text, as a means of verifying to the readers that the information is accurate.
RE: this. I think I just peed myself a little. Thanks for the laugh! - CobaltBlueTony™talk 19:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Ashley Monroe
Sure, but I know nothing about this particular artist. I just got rid of the "personal life" section, as it was completely useless gibber. CloversMallRat (talk) 21:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Small Town Girl
"This is regarding your edits to Small Town Girl. The Digital Songs and Radio Songs charts are components of the Billboard Hot 100 — that is, their data are used to compile the Hot 100 positions. Also, the Radio Songs chart is still officially Hot 100 Airplay, even though the website says Radio Songs. Those charts should be used only if the song didn't enter the Hot 100 proper. For instance, Mark Wills' version of "What Hurts the Most" entered the Digital Songs chart but no other chart, and before 1998, it was common for songs to enter Hot 100 Airplay but not the Hot 100 proper (for example, Bob Carlisle's "Butterfly Kisses"). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 13:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)"
None of that matters. Just because you and "CloversMallRat" want less information doesn't give you the right to remove it. There is no Wikipedia rule or limit on chart data and I sourced it, so there's no valid reason to remove it. When valid information is removed it is vandalism, plain and simple. You should review the vandalism article. I also looked at your requests for adminship
and some of those opposing called you "delete happy." I see why. Wikipedia IS information and information is priceless so why on earth would you want to delete it? Usually that indicates some sort of bias or other issue.
"Those charts should be used only if the song didn't enter the Hot 100 proper."
Hello - I don't believe that consensus was reached to delete the page. One criteria that you asked for was more external sources, which were provided in the AFD discussion. Do you agree that the discussion was still ongoing, or do you believe that it was complete with "delete" as consensus? Thx. SpikeJones (talk) 01:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
I left a note there, but since it was your AFD submission, thought you deserved to share an opinion as to whether the discussion was complete or not (regardless of the outcome, since I know you to be fair and wise). SpikeJones (talk) 01:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Recent edits
I just wanted to congratulate you on your recent edits, great job and keep up the good work. Western Pines (talk) 20:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Sex abuse non-admin close
Thanks. I was trying to say essentially that when my connection went wonky. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
So I have proposed it here. Of course I may be the only one in step. I'd welcome your and other editors' input. As one might expect opposing the proposal is perfectly acceptable. I would not like to be accused of canvassing! Fiddle Faddle (talk) 21:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
"To date"
I'm absolutely certain that someone will update the article within five seconds of the airing of the second million dollar win, and it'll no longer be an issue. It's perfectly appropriate to use "to date" as long as it's not outdated - which it isn't, in this case. Without "to date," the article only tells you that Michelle Loewenstein is the biggest winner in the show's history, but it's also relevant that she's the only $1M winner so far. How else would you phrase it? JTRH (talk) 21:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree that "first and only" is redundant, but "only million dollar winner" might lead (IMO) to the assumption that she's the only one that will ever be, which "only million dollar winner to date" (or "thus far," or "as of yet") doesn't imply. It's hardly a "recentism" to say that something has only happened once as of the time the article was written. It can be updated as soon as it needs to be, which is as soon as someone else wins the $1M, but not before then. It's a perfectly accurate statement. Note that I'm not edit warring on this, I just think the way it was phrased is both perfectly appropriate and more precise than your version. JTRH (talk) 22:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Not to belabor the point, but how is "as of early 2010" any less "recentism" than "to date"? "To date" or "as of yet" wouldn't need to be changed until someone else wins the $1M, since it will be accurate until that happens. "As of early 2010" will be (or at least look like it is) out of date as soon as it's no longer early 2010. JTRH (talk) 13:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
"To date" means until now, so far, as of this writing. It's perfectly precise and its meaning is perfectly clear. JTRH (talk) 13:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Eminem is Back, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Per Talk page, let the AfD discussion run its course. Thank you. — Malik ShabazzTalk/Stalk 00:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Since the AfD looks likely to close under WP:SNOW, the issue will be moot soon. — Malik ShabazzTalk/Stalk 02:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Deletion
I didn't mean to nominate the talk page. I'm just going to keep the article as I originally thought that it was just the page. Thanks for the heads up there. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
I saw this taggged for deletion. I've been out of circulation for a while, so me knowledge of deletion reasons may be obsolete. I would have sent this to MfD, but I saw it was you and decided to open a dialogue instead. This looks like a work in progress by an established user, so I'm hesitant. Probably there are those that will proceed as tagged.
Why'd you gut it? I recall from the AfD that sources existed, but article needed improvement.--Milowent (talk) 05:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Guess I should have looked closer :P Thanks. --Milowent (talk) 17:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Removel of superbike video game section
I would just like to put the point forward that the section has a point because it shows where else you could find world superbike as thats what the article is about. Its like going to the football section and removing the fact they have ever had any computer games made on that subject. Its referenced and its linked to other pages within wikipedia therefore it has a big valid point in that article! Xrateddan (talk) 20:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Fixed the discrepancy. Re-nominated it so it would generate a debate, not a request for merging. Thanks. Reyrefran (talk) 23:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Choking Victim, Leftover Crack, and INDK pages
Why are you doing this? "semi notable" "not notable" what is this? Just because you havent heard of it doesn't mean it isn't notable. Wikipedia isn't a place for top 100 bands only. These are very significant ska-punk bands who deserve articles on wikipedia. The deletion of an album page, or even an artist's page in the case of INDK, because of source is not a just thing to do. How do you get sources for a tracklisting? Most of the time, wikipedia is the source. Please reconsider the deletion of the many significant pages you have recently put up for deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.63.53 (talk) 07:05, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Inlight
I initially added the db-band, but then changed to a prod when i saw in the page history an attempt at speedily deleting the article had been made 3 years ago. Upon closer examination again, I changed the prod to AfD because a prod had also been tried sometime ago.--TM 19:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
AfD tools
Thanx for fixing the AfD. Do you happen to know of any tool to automate the procedure? --JokerXtreme (talk) 23:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I can't find evidence of any project-level discussion of this page that would justify its deletion, so I've declined the speedy. If you have a URL for such a discussion, would you please leave a note on my talk with a link? Nyttend (talk) 01:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
We could use your help dealing with these articles!
Hi there! Thought you might be interested in WikiProject Notability. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (5000+ articles), and we need your help! If you have a spare moment, please join and sort an article or tell your friends.
I have closed this as delete and zapped all the articles. That leaves a vast number of redlinks from every song that ever got listed - if I had realised that, I might have hesitated to close it! I will get round gradually to tidying them up, but if you do any of them I will not complain. I zapped the template: are there any other loose ends like categories? JohnCD (talk) 17:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the note regarding mfd. In general, what are more appropriate uses for mfd? CopaceticThought (talk) 03:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Could you look at a sandboxed article and see if it passes?
Could you take a look at User:Coral135/Blackbook2 and provide an opinion about whether it clears notability? It seems a bit borderline to me on the references, and a similar article has been speedied three times. Thus I'd like to get a few additional opinions on it before making a determination that it's ready for prime-time. See User talk:SchuminWeb/Archive 22#Blackbook2 need to be unprotected for some background on it. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Another set of Price Is Right games recently closed as delete here. Tangentially relevant at least. Shadowjams (talk) 05:12, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I suppose you knew about that since you'd commented there. Nevermind then. Shadowjams (talk) 05:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Category:EOKA struggle
No problems, go right ahead... Cheers, Constantine ✍ 08:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello again! Another admin removed the csd tag as the category was "not empty". Shall I open the last CfD post or open a new one (this time including the subcategory, which is similarly redundant per the same rationale)?
MGM Records Nashville
I have a prime candidate for an AfD, MGM Records Nashville which seemed to be active in the late 1990s but can't find any verifiable citations regarding its existence. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Please take a look at the Spanish Wikipedia's article, which looks pretty good and has some references. Isn't there some procedure to import and translate such as article? I'm not sure how GFDL works with a cut/paste/translated article, unless there is just a notice that it was translated from the foreign language source, to attribute the authorship. (If it were machine translated to some other language, and then machine translated from that garble to English, it would be even funnier). Edison (talk) 18:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, you said you were fluent in Spanish in the AFD, and you removed most of the text from the article. I am maybe semi-fluent in Spanish, but it does not look that difficult to clean up the Google translated version of the Spanish Wiki article as it was before you stubbed it. But that still leaves the GFDL issue. Thanks. Edison (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Ctrl-Alt-Del
Hi.
Can i ask why was it removed for the list of Self-sufficient webcomics?, i mean apparently the comic has been absolutely removed for wikipedia, i don`t understand why, but at least it deserves to be in the list, it is a self-sufficient webcomic. Zidane tribal (talk) 23:57, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I see. It can still be on the list without actually having an article, doesn`t it? Zidane tribal (talk) 00:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Harry Partch instruments
Hi,
Harry Partch's instruments were an important part of his career and music, and the details of their construction, I would argue, is not trivial information. I wanted to ask you to reconsider that edit.—Chowbok☠ 03:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!
Thank you for killing the trivia sections. It's a thankless job, like your finger in the dike, but thank you anyway! --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 12:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I don't want to get involved with this article because of a possible COI, but it seems to me to be a candidate for speedy deletion. Feel free to take any action you choose. It appears that the editor who started the article is fairly new, and if you have some encouraging words of advice for him/her, you may wish to fire away, since you are experienced with article deletions. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
--Morenooso (talk) 01:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)== I think the user you just tagged might be a sockpuppet ==
George Sterner might be a sockpuppet of the userpage he editted. An Admin permanently blocked the other masterpuppet userpage (I believe the userpage name was highyack or something to that effect). Shortly after this block, I notified that Admin but he took no further action.--Morenooso (talk) 00:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
highyack07 caught my attention because he editted Ronald Reagan to read that he was RR's VP and then redirected that VP wikilink to his userpage. You can read about that on RR's talkpage Talk:Ronald_Reagan#Train.3F where another user noticed he had inserted someone named Train as RR's VP. I followed the editor's redirects and found highyack07 and made a comment that any Admin visiting his talkpage should take a look at his userpage where there edits like George Sterner made.--Morenooso (talk) 01:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
George Sterner just reverted his userpage which I just restored to the sockpuppet tag. He pretty much confirmed he is a sockpuppet or the meatpuppet because he editted his userpage to reflect the Train character mentioned in my second post on 4 March 2010. The Train character was linked to Ronald Reagan's article and can be seen by going to his version just prior to my restoration.--Morenooso (talk) 22:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
User talk:69.122.40.229 just blanked highyack07's page. He might be a sockpuppet too. Might be George logged out because I just placed a warning on his page.--Morenooso (talk) 22:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
FYI, an Admin just blocked George. I was having problems keeping up with the revisions to his userpage.
Emily (Dave Koz composition)
Hi, You have redirected the above article citing no sources. But in fact it had another source apart from the one you removed, Allmusic. Take a look at this Allmusic page. Therefore I think redirection is little unfair. I'll look for more sources. Best--Chanaka L (talk) 04:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
If this is a bad source, shouldn't you have removed the text from the article that cited that source? The article information from the removed reference is now uncited, so no one knows that it came from the www.musicianguide.com source, bad or not. Do you plan to systematically go through the over 500 articles that use www.musicianguide.com as a source and delete the reference citations? Thanks --hulmem (talk) 05:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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Re kmwebers indef ban.
Hi, I think you should consider arguing for his unblock and request for clarification regarding his sanctions. Specifically I think we need to get some guidance on whether he can defend articles he is the main contributor to, and if not, how such issues should be resolved going forward. Unomi (talk) 08:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
You replaced a referenced text with a citation reqd notice. Your edit summary just said "rm" which was little help as to rationale; I reverted and for good measure then added a further reference so that a fairly minor biographical fact is now looking rather weighed down by 2 refs. However, looking at the comments in prior sections above, I'm guessing that your issue was/is maybe with "www.musicianguide.com" as a source rather than a specific concern with the Cherry article? If so, it would be worth at the very least saying so in edit summaries? Beyond that, though, a consequence of things like this is just a sequence of edits stored in the WP Database, which finish up more or less where they started as people look for alternative sources for uncontroversial facts. AllyD (talk) 09:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Sure thing, I just added a content section, the chart debut info, and fixed a few things. And many thanks for the compliment, btw! CloversMallRat (talk) 17:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 March 4
Thanks for cleaning up after my deletes! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 15:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Music of Minnesota
Hi, TenPoundHammer. An editor has kindly copyedited Music of Minnesota. I wonder if you have time to revisit your delist vote? Thank you for taking an interest in this article. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
County music portal
Hello i am wondering y you deleted the County music portal?...portals are not related to wikiprojects, they however do help them..so now we have 2000+ articles that link to a dead wikiproject and not a useful portal. Not sure y you deleted it we had all decided to keep it Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Country Music ...So pls tell me y you did this??..Buzzzsherman (talk) 19:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I have declined your CSD tagging of this article because it does not qualify as a test page at all. Additionally, even if it were, the article is in the editor's user space and CSD G2 would not apply. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Early Wynn Salter
Thanks for your message. The article has been deleted under A7. — Malik ShabazzTalk/Stalk 02:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of The Fab Shield 8 Band, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I feel "considered to be the pioneers of..." is enough of a claim of importance that we should leave it to the AfD. Thank you. Olaf Davis (talk) 11:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
copyvio
There are simple bio-facts that you cannot copyright; a job title, for example - besides the original university profile from which the linkedin one is copied is properly cited in this bio and it has been fully re-written to address all similarity/uniqueness issues. Please pay a careful, objective look at the latest version. Thank you. --Yellowfinjp (talk) 11:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I just caught a user, User:Train12, while on recent change patrol editting his userpage to reflect the Train persona ala highyack07. I contacted the Admin who closed the case and recommended reopening it. I also tagged this new user. I have a feeling this guy will continue to pop up. I wonder he can keep popping up? I wonder he uses a virtual IP or other cloaking mechanism to get back here.--Morenooso (talk) 16:18, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Here is where I meant to be. Don't know if you have the investigation still open, but clerk re-opened it. I think the masterpuppet has an alia we haven't seen yet.--Morenooso (talk) 02:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Are they mentioning you (I couldn't find you by the way) because they think you're a "deletor"? I'm amused by the whole thing; unfortunately, it appears I have a singular wit. :-\ - CobaltBlueTony™talk 19:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Zor2711's only edits have been to place this message on the talk pages of editors, none of whom is mentioned in the linked pages. I can only assume it's meant to be irony. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:34, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Edit summaries
Please review Your recent edit to American VI: Ain't No Grave left an unintelligible edit summary. I would like to politely request that you review the summary you have in AWB and amend it accordingly. If you need to respond, please do so on my talk. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Whoops Make that Twinkle, obviously. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
T.I.'s seventh studio album
You started a debate for an article I created about two weeks ago. The debate ended as a deletion (which I do not agree with). But I am asking you if the new version of the article would be able to be considered notable with your law? There is no title or track listing, but a release month has been confirmed and a single has been released on the artists official website. SEKinG. User page.Talk. 22:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't see what the big deal a title is. It doesn't make sense that one piece of information separates an article from worthy to unworthy. There are MANY sources that are presented in the article, and a bunch more that are not in the article. Why isn't that enough to sustain an article? SEKinG. User page.Talk. 23:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I appreciate you reverting the edits on my page, but apparently the living person "Maged N. Kamel Boulos", on whom the article was made, has a problem with it being on my talk page. It doesn't make any difference to me, so I've reverted your edit. Again, I understand why you did it, and I commend you on your good work so far. 120000+ edits! You're a living legend for me. Shashwat986 (talk) 04:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Re: Boy Like You
Sorry, I'd add the angon tag myself if I could find the article again apoligies. --Wintonian (talk) 19:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Same source I'd found, so I eliminated the repetition in defining the source. Thought I'd let you know! Yngvadottir (talk) 20:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Lyrics
It says to avoid articles comprising of just lyrics, but it doesn't say we can't include a snippet of the chorus, as been done traditionally. If a source needs to be there, I'd suggest you find one and add it if you must be nit-picky, rather than removing them completely. CloversMallRat (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
DYK for My Best Days Are Ahead of Me
On March 10, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article My Best Days Are Ahead of Me, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
One of them is the official blog of VH1, meaning it is not a blog that would be an inappropriate source; VH1 has editorial powers over that blog.
http://maxim.com/entertainment/reviews.aspx?p_id=13738 is a review from Maxim Magazine - again an acceptable source
There are two secondary sources, so a section about Lemonparty is warranted. However I did remove much of the examplefarmish stuff (the stuff not referred to in secondary sources) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Kudos
Just wanted to say kudos on this. I'm a big believer in WP:EGG and have long considered starting a discussion on "year in film" links, but never thought it'd amount to anything as their use is so widespread. I'm glad you stepped up to the plate, and I'm surprised to see so many members of WP:FILMS agreeing with the logic of ending the practice of linking "years in film" by default. Good call! --IllaZilla (talk) 04:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Turning Home
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Hiya, not quite sure if this is up your alley, but I'd like to know if you've got an opinion on a talk section I started regarding the various Billboard albums charts. here.
If this isn't your thing, could you at least point me in a direction to where this request could get some additional feedback?
Further to your comments about the Mendip Hills article at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Mendip Hills/archive1 significant improvement has been made by several editors & I'd be grateful if you take another look and let us know about any issues which you feel are outstanding and still needed to improve the article.— Rodtalk 21:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
There has been no activity on this for a while & I believe issues have been addressed - could you take a look and indicate anything else you feel is needed.— Rodtalk 09:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Country portal
Message on my talkpage....but basically can i get you to put it all back? this would save lots of us undo work!!Buzzzsherman (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I restored per request. Perhaps MfD would be better that an edit summary saying "screw it", no? --Jubilee♫clipman 21:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
your note regarding John Calvin
Although I am referencing the intro section, also see the Legacy section of the article - which is where I am disagreeing with the use of fn 94 and 96, and suggesting an inclusion of 3 more sources and other historians and critiques. See the discussion for more details. thanks.
Oghmatist (talk) 20:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Re Songfacts
Something should be done really, but blacklisting wouldn't directly deal with the 1334 links already in place.. a bot would need to sort them out. As a related note, would you so kind as to give your opinion on Sparksmedia's contributions? Seems to be spamming something called Metal Call Out. Rehevkor✉ 21:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I'll help work through them, slowly. Rehevkor✉ 01:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Did you get hit ? the vandals blocked, check my page at link above. Mlpearc MESSAGE 14:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Template:Domingo Faustino Sarmiento
Hi, TPH. Could you take a look at {{Domingo Faustino Sarmiento}} again and decide if you still want to !vote "Delete" in the TFD for it? It looks like the redlinks have been filled in, and the nominator has withdrawn. However, since there is a "Delete" comment in the discussion by someone other than the nom, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to close it at "Nomination withdrawn". No pressure; if you want to stick with "Delete", I'll just let the discussion continue. --RL0919 (talk) 02:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
You Ain't Woman Enough
The way I see it is, that because it was there it was announced as a single back then and while there may not be record of it because it failed to chart, that doesn't negate the possibility of it being released. Sara Evans' "Love You with All My Heart" failed to chart in 2008, but I know for a fact it was released because I saw the dates on MusicRow's calendar at the time and its been documented that it was released on June 23, 2008 (or something close to that). This is a bit harder though, since its older I guess, but its been there for a long long time and for to just come along and take it down is pretty suspect. CloversMallRat (talk) 17:21, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
It sounds pretty outrageous though to come along 3 years and call the single a fraud, because it didn't chart. CloversMallRat (talk) 23:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
That makes sense, I guess... Deana Carter's discography started out with 2 singles from 2005's The Story of My Life but a user, I believe Caldorwards (?) found and added 2 additional singles from that album, neither of which charted... so maybe this guy is the one to clarify it? CloversMallRat (talk) 02:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I added "You Ain't Woman Enough" years ago after seeing on some site I don't remember (I though it was McBride's site but if it was, it's not there anymore). The song may have been planned to be a single but canceled. Now for the Deana Carter songs, those I found from promo singles for sale on eBay. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 03:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
James Otto
Because "Just Got Started Lovin' You" was the only peak. I thought the Pop 100 was to only be kept in the singles table if more than two songs charted on it. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Mkk. Thanks for clarifying. Since the lackluster success of his songs after "Just Got Started Lovin' You", it'll be miraculous if he makes the Hot 100 or Canadian charts. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Wow, really? I haven't heard it yet. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I Get Paper Close
Very nice close on the RfA AfD this morning. I think everyone is happy with that result. -- RP459Talk/Contributions 16:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Aw, c'mon
[56] surely you were new once too? Hopefully they won't see that edit summary. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:37, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
This article scares me. I think it needs hacking or killing. But it's Friday afternoon and my brain can't take it. - CobaltBlueTony™talk 17:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Eh
...and you had been doing so well. Surely you aren't falling back to your old habits of nominating harmless minutiae? –xenotalk 18:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Meh. One man's harmless minutiae… Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
MJ song
It was just my opinion that it needed more references. Also you're right, I can't be arsed looking for references. I only edit article I find interesting. IJA (talk) 16:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
All I was saying that it was a weak keep and that if references do exist we should add them to the article. It was something to make note of really. Regards IJA (talk) 16:37, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi User:TenPoundHammer,
Thanx for the change!!
Also I wanted someone to co-copyedit the Nat & Alex Wolff article with me, so it can receive a WP:GAN.
Do u want to help me??
Thanx! ATC.Talk 01:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Steamin' and Dreamin'...
The article was originally userfied as the outcome of the first AfD. He made a few changes (not enough), the posted it back. I reiterated my objections and opened another AfD, the result of which was to delete. That was four months ago, and frankly I forgot about it. Lo and behold, another move from user space to main space shows up in my watchlist. Forgetting we had already deleted this via the second AfD, I initiated a third AfD. Twinkle found the first two and created the usual AfD-list box that showed all three discussions. I then said, "Doh!" and remembered we already canned this, so then I added the postscript on the third AfD, and off we went. I think both the main space article and the one in user space should both be deleted. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 04:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
It Just Comes Natural
Hello TenPoundHammer,
I did not realize Tony Brown was listed as "Tony 'Hit Man' Brown" in the liner notes.
User:Lost Fugitive and I only reverted his name back when I asked for his input on the matter.
However, I have this CD and checked the credits and I cannot find where this is the case.
Anyway, wouldn't it be better to leave his proper name as is?
Not sure if it was changed later, Thanks for the response TenPoundHammer, Ngs61 (talk) 15:32, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
The House That Built Me
Oh, ok, no problem. And I looked back at it and I actually didn't add that, I just added the sentence after it! So you were right, sorry about that. CloversMallRat (talk) 18:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
WTF?
What the h*ll are you thinking? Deleting and vandalizing my Wikipedia Talk Page? What is wrong with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RSprings123 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
page notes
hey man, Im just tryin to set up a page for Jerrod Bettis. He is a music producer/songwriter who use to be in OneRepublic. He is about to be very busy and will have plenty to contribute to this wiki page...Ive included a small bio for his page as well and any help of feedback would be a awesome. Thanks..
Jerrod Bettis (born July 20, 1984) is a Musician/Producer/Songwriter from Colorado Springs, Colorado. Now currently living in Los Angeles, Jerrod writes and produces for some of the top artists from around the world.
Jerrod was born in Abilene Texas, but moved to Colorado in summer of 1992. At age 3 he started playing drums after his parents got him a drumset for christmas. Jerrod took to music very naturally, listening to his fathers old records and learning how to play along. In 1995, he taught himself how to play guitar and piano, and started pulling double duty as drummer/guitarist in his bands that he was playing in, even at the young age of 10. After playing around the state of Colorado in a few semi successful local bands, Jerrod was contacted by his friend Ryan Tedder about starting a band in LA. Jerrod moved to California to help form the band OneRepublic with Tedder and Zach Filkins, but left the band in 2005 to pursue songwriting and producing more. Since then, he has performed with many national acts such as, Search/Rescue, Rockstar Supernova's Dilana, and has written and produced tracks for Kelly Clarkson, Hanna Montana, OneRepublic, Eva Simons, Kay Boutilier, plus many more. Jerrod has also co written music with, Ryan Tedder, Nick Hexum, Frank E, Stephanie Fair, Evan Bogart, The Cab, and more.
This is a Dancehall/Reggae group and thus our mutual knowledge on them is probably next to nil. I have made an attempt to create pages for the albums that were not listed on their own pages (some lazy people decided it made perfect sense to leave the track listing on the discography on that page...see the history, it's unbelievable). Two albums I am confused on, however. The three albums listed under "Albums" (makes sense) are correct studio albums for T.O.K. I've moved two to a new header called, well, "Other Albums", assuming they are solo efforts. Here are some external links (followed by pages I've created as links):
Mind following up on this one and seeing if maybe I'm misinterpreting these as solo albums? Or even if they're T.O.K. albums specifically? =) I'm adding the album art for both right after sending this, so that may still be coming when you see the pages.
Please reply on THIS PAGE, BTW - I'll be watching it and then the convo. is all in one place. CycloneGU (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
They look to be multi-artist compilations put out by the same label. I would probably list the individual tracks as guest appearances. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
So add another extra column for that? That would just become extra2 or something like that? I found the details confusing on both pages, but would you still consider them solo efforts with guest appearances?
BTW, merged from my talk page. I really want to keep everything together. =) CycloneGU (talk) 17:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually it looks fine now. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Should I just put guest appearances under the individual songs, then, as an addendum? I've done the first song on D'Link as an example. My concern though is tracks like #4, "Advice", which says it's by Beenie Man ft. Tami Chynn - nowhere does it say Flexx himself is in that song, so I guess we can't call it a solo album for him either. That's where I'm a bit confused. =) CycloneGU (talk) 17:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
That works. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Y Done. Take a look if you would like. Also, I did more editing on Our World and I'm done with the pages unless something crops up somewhere. Only did this because I was going through my g/f's song collection, came here to find T.O.K. songs, and found the mess. =D CycloneGU (talk) 19:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Your edit summary and edit to this article removing links to Jeff Hastings was entirely unwarranted and unreasonable. Jeff Hastings, the former athlete, IS the president of Pro-Cut, and before you every fly off the handle like that again, you damn well better do your research. Rklawton (talk) 17:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Not to butt in (I'm just here already), but the page sourced doesn't list the company on it at all. Is there a better source? CycloneGU (talk) 17:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Check again:
Jeff Hastings fourth-place finish on the large hill at the 1984 Winter Olympics is the best modern finish by a US ski jumper at the Olympics. He also placed fourth that year overall on the World Cup circuit, and won a large hill World Cup event in 1983 at Lake Placid. Hastings was a four-time national champion, and his younger brother, Chris, was a two-time national champion and competed at the 1988 Winter Olympics. Jeff Hastings graduated from Williams College, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth, and later became a senior executive for the automotive supply company, Pro-Cut International.
My apologies, I missed that. Still wondering if it's enough to save the article from deletion however. CycloneGU (talk) 18:04, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Hell no it's not notable. It's a small company with under 50 employees. I just don't like experienced editors who grief the noobs for no good reason. Rklawton (talk) 18:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Wow, What A Mess
I thought you'd like to chuckle - or perhaps cringe - at The Tea Party before I begin working on it sometime Saturday. I have dishes to do ATM (odd for 1 a.m. Saturday morning).
What a strange discography format...CycloneGU (talk) 05:01, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
FOLLOW-UP: Found the original person who put it in (Anthony S, January 20, 2007). Did you know we have an "Infobox Discography" template? This guy put the track listing for each album on the page, which someone later separated into individual articles...before this edit, the discography actually looked quite normal...I think I'll look at that edit and use it as a copy and paste after making sure everything's there, then work further from there. CycloneGU (talk) 05:25, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Monte Yoho
No, I'm not done working on it yet. I'm moving back to userspace. ~EDDY(talk/contribs/editor review)~ 16:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't know, it's easier when you are working on several different articles at once. It is also one way to bend the rules at DYK. If you want to work on Yoho's draft, be my guest. No one is stopping you. ~EDDY(talk/contribs/editor review)~ 16:51, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I mean no offense when I say this as I have respect for you, but for someone who claims to have an interest in improving country music articles specifically, putting a CITE note on a track labelled as an "iTunes Bonus Track" without simply opening iTunes and looking up the album (which takes less than a minute, searching "Trace Adkins" and then clicking the album cover - less time than it takes to type this message) is a bit lazy. I've gone ahead and placed the citation for this track.
If you don't have iTunes, on the other hand (if not, why not?), I can understand this. In this case, just contact me and I can quickly confirm these things for you and give you the source URL (which actually opens within iTunes, see [57] for the one I used on this occasion). I tend to keep iTunes open 24 hours a day unless it's causing my computer temporary grief (which happened during a period that I didn't immediately apply an update, my research area - the store - didn't work). Thus, any research can be done in less than a minute. =) CycloneGU (talk) 16:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
My problem is I don't know how to cite iTunes itself with a link. Can we even do that? Are iTunes-exclusive bonus tracks relevant? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
The point is that everyone will buy the album in different ways. In different places or countries, the track listing will be different. Someone purchasing in iTunes will not know that the standard edition does not include that last excellent track. Someone purchasing in Latin America won't know they're getting content that Canada or the U.S. does not, or that Japan has even more material. True fans want to hunt down every single track; even if they already purchased one version they want the bonuses (which I assure you they'll download illegally, it's ridiculous to expect someone to buy two copies for different bonus material). We are cataloging each edition because each person purchasing the album will otherwise try to edit one main track listing to say theirs is correct. The truth is, there are different versions. Even if it's iTunes, it's our job to note them. =)
(BTW, I copied your msg. on my page to here for similar reasons as above.) CycloneGU (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
[Outdent] To cite iTunes links, open the album in iTunes and right-click the album art, select Copy Link. Paste into your text editor or Wiki edit page. CycloneGU (talk) 17:32, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, TenPoundHammer. You have new messages at Sligocki's talk page. Message added 17:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I went ahead and created its own page. However, I must note that I copied everything from a prior edit and have yet to attempt to verify any certification and such. Also, do you have any clue how to look up their singles? I haven't found a good source for that yet...but then, maybe that's only because I've been busy editing the heck out of the original page. =)
I'll see what I can do for certifications shortly. Also, PLEASE REPLY ON THIS PAGE. =) CycloneGU (talk) 01:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Done what I could for certifications; have any way to find their singles now? AllMusic doesn't list anything until 2002, so I'm not sure it's reliable. CycloneGU (talk) 04:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Not sure where Billboard's hiding its archives anymore. You could try acharts.us to get some; maybe drop a note at WT:CHARTS. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, I found Canadian and Australian certifications (and made corrections). Those were the ones in the original article; U.S. would have separate figures I think, either that or the sales figures ARE a total and the original article writer didn't get American ones...I dunno. =) CycloneGU (talk) 16:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Hot Country Songs
Whilst i understand what your saying... its been brought up several times. So in the process of designating which Billboard Charts are components and which are genres some of the charts were renamed and i thought renaming the chart U.S. Country songs would be better. Just because the Rap chart is called Rap Songs so we renamed that U.S. Rap Songs. It was an attempt to standardise the charts. But perhaps i was being a little too bold? what do you think?
Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
im guessing you don't see the standardization of billboard charts as important then? Its just that Billboard.com shows the chart as one thing to the public (Country Songs) whilst its Billboard.biz which shows it as 'Hot Country Songs'. Do you not see this as a slight issue...? Ok i know its not the worst offending example but there worser examples.Lil-unique1 (talk) 00:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Also since you did not like my proposal i reckon you should give your opinion here because it is an issue which is being discussed all input be it in favour of or against is helpful.Lil-unique1 (talk) 04:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Heatseekers
One of the commentors said that it shouldn't be used at all if a song charts on the Hot 100. Plus, I don't see the point... its a really useless chart, where the position depends upon where it is on the Hot 100, ie: a song at #50 on the Hot 100 usually is near or at #1 on Heatseekers: whats the point of including it? Their really isn't one... CloversMallRat (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
I feel terrible knowing it'll get delisted, but the source quality really is pretty bad and I just don't think I can fix it. Staxringoldtalkcontribs 03:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
That article was written largely through Googling during the summer after high school. With higher source requirements now (rightly so) you really have to be used to editing in the field to know how to go about getting sourcing. I'm fine baseball wise, but I'd be lost on an article like this now (though I am proud of her awards list I wrote). Staxringoldtalkcontribs 03:08, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
It's kinda sad, but I'm not in a place where I can edit a major article like that. Thesis due in a week, gotta find something for the summer, etc, etc. I doubt I'll return to this (though I hope you fix her up), but maybe I can get another 2009 World Series going this summer. :) Staxringoldtalkcontribs 03:15, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
About that edit summary...
Until I took a closer look, I thought [58] was vandalism judging by the edit summary. Try not to use the CAPS LOCK too much. Just a bit of advice. DaL33T (talk) 20:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, if people would follow instructions when using complex infoboxen... Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I understand, but when you're a vandal fighter, like me, edit summaries in ALL CAPS tend to be vandalism, that's all. DaL33T (talk) 20:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
1- I haven't read the instructions for that box in years, it's not exactly difficult to know that for "born=" you put the birth date/place etc. 2- It's a minor cosmetic change that is meaningless to anyone who doesn't pay very close attention to the infoboxes of musical artists. It doesn't even put him in a category. Shouting about it is a bit much. --PresN 20:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, sorry for snapping. Still, the fact that it's labeled "mandatory" in the documentation... well, it kinda means "mandatory." Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
(Sadly?) your reply was the happiest moment of my day. :-) - CobaltBlueTony™talk 21:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Over 4 years on and I finally feel wanted. :D Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Obviously, you haven't been paying attention. :-) - CobaltBlueTony™talk 11:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
RfA
lol. too funny. That was clever!. CalmerWaters 02:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi TenPoundHammer, and thank you for reviewing this article that I nominated for GA. However, I disagree with you not promoting an article you yourself said was mostly fine because critical reviews were lacking. As you said, they are all hidden behind paywalls. If I could find an editor who could assist with getting to the paid websites and print sources, that certainly would be nice, but I nominated this for GA, not FA. It doesn't have to be as complete to be a good article.
See the note on WP:GA?, criterion 3a: "This requirement is significantly weaker than the 'comprehensiveness' required of featured articles; it allows short articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics." I am leaving this note to request that you consider the status of the article again, but if you still believe that it doesn't need to be GA, that's fine; I'd be glad to take this to reassessment if you do not agree with me. But thank you again for your comments, I sincerely appreciate them. I'll be trying to look around for any extra information. –Chase (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
It does exist but it's not easy to access... if I were nominating this for FA status, I think you would have a point, but it's just GA so not covering every aspect is permitted. Also, the liner notes of the album don't provide instrument information, though I would include that if that info were available. But I guess I'll be opening a reassessment soon. Thanks again for the review and comments. –Chase (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
1227.com
Nooooow you tell me. ;)1 Dlohcierekim 18:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
It's clear of viruses. I checked ad nauseum. — BQZip01 —talk 19:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Still, it's a Rickroll trap. I had to forcequit Firefox to get it off. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Just attempt to close the window, click through the lyrics, and click "ok" and it will close. A little annoying, but harmless. — BQZip01 —talk 22:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
In case this comes up again, unblocking an individual when the account included an IP autoblock, how the heck do I fix that??? - CobaltBlueTony™talk 18:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Xeno, I did eventually find that tool, but he's already been unblocked. So... yeah. Thanks anyway. I should bookmark it.
10lb., you talk to me like we admins are all in some sort of club. I assume Jaranda is some admin by the context, but I don't have the tolerance (read: time) to dig into the deep seedy underbelly that is happyadminfuntimeland (my tiptoeing through an ArbCom debacle is evidence enough of that). - CobaltBlueTony™talk 19:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, if he can do it so can you!!! ;-) - CobaltBlueTony™talk 19:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Oppose, was recently blocked. Amalthea 20:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
We blocked the trout?! Tony Fox(arf!) 20:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The troutee blocked the trouter. Amalthea 20:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
That's nowhere near as funny. =P Tony Fox(arf!) 21:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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Hey there – I started a special page in my userspace to condense the two Wheel of Fortune articles for both network and syndicated into one concise article. There's no reason there should be two articles now that the gameplay article has been spun off. The article in my userspace now is just slapped together and contains sections cut & pasted from both articles. Feel free to make any contributions, edits, etc. you want to it and then we can propose a merger of the two current articles. User:Sottolacqua/Wheel of Fortune (U.S. game show)
I'm having a problem with this guy, he seems to think that Feels Just Like a Love Song is non-notable simply because it peaked at #59 on the country chart, while its clear that the article is substantial and sourced. Meanwhile, he believed this LAW song is notable simply because it charted much higher than FJLALS, which is clearly not the case, being as it is a perma-stub. So if you could help me out, that'd be great. CloversMallRat (talk) 02:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help! --DarTar (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind GA review you gave the article... um, to whichever nice otter decided to pay a visit.
I do have a question... this is my 1st article I've essentially written (2nd is almost done). What does the article need to reach FA status?
Hmmm, now I know the name of the clue-bat who has been bonking me. I curse you Cheyenne!!! Bgwhite (talk) 06:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Messiaen FAR
I am sorry I overreacted at the Olivier Messiaen FAR. Your comments were valid as opinion, even though I thought they were unsympathetically stated.
Contributions such as the one I am talking about, when signed "TenPoundHammer", are I think likely to be misinterpreted as bull-in-a-china-shop overstatement, and adding "a cluebat" to your signature adds a perception of smugness. I am sure this misrepresents you. May I suggest that perhaps you might like to rethink your signature? I assure you, this suggestion is made in an entirely friendly spirit. --RobertG ♬ talk 08:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Heya. Noticed four new works today from the above user, and they appear to be promotional. I don't feel comfortable doing even a PROD, but want another opinion. Your thoughts? --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 00:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
You said "If there are more than a couple, lump 'em in the blues portal" Did you mean to say "Unless there are more than a couple, lump 'em in the blues portal."? --SPhilbrickT 21:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at this article? [[59]] Looks to me like an awful lot of OR and unsourced/verifiable info. You're good at weeding that out. Thanks. JTRH (talk) 01:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Good job of weed-whacking. JTRH (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Want to take a shot at this one next? Same issues, probably same author.[[60]] JTRH (talk) 02:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
I've expanded this article with more references and information. I'd suggest that the AFD be closed early, so that the article can be moved to its proper title and links added without introducing messy redirects and such. Please take a look when you get a chance. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 17:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
DYK for I'm In
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Hey there, TPH. I saw that you passed U.S. Route 113 on the talk page, but you didn't leave any sort of indication on GAN (not even a {{GAReview}} template) and you didn't add it to WP:GA. I was wondering if you can clear this up. Thanks, Mm40 (talk) 22:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. B.Wind (talk) 07:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Degrassi
Hi. You've commented at the FAR for Degrassi: The Next Generation. I think that I have taken care of all the points you have raised. Please revisit the review to see if your delist !vote still applies. Thank you, Matthewedwards : Chat 04:51, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
GAN backlog elimination drive - 1 week to go
First off, on behalf of myself and my co-coordinator Wizardman, I would like to thank you for the efforts that you have made so far in this GAN backlog elimination drive. It has been nothing short of a success, and that is thanks to you. See this Signpost article about what this drive has achieved so far.
We're currently heading into the final week of the drive. At this time, if you have any GANs on review or on hold, you should be finishing off those reviews. Right now, we have more GANs on review or on hold than we do unreviewed. If you're going to start a GA review, please do so now so you can complete it by the end of the month and so that the nominator has a full 7-day window to address any concerns.
If the reviews field in {{Infobox Album}} isn't supposed to be used anymore, then it should probably be disabled in the template itself — because as long as it's still visible in other albums, people will continue to add it to new ones. So if it's deprecated, then it should be made invisible so that people aren't led to believe that it's standard. Bearcat (talk) 19:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
<sarcasm>The last track from Joe Nichols' album is my favorite!!</sarcasm> — Timneu22 ·talk 17:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, how did you get a custom header when people are editing your talk page? — Timneu22 ·talk 17:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I administer a few MediaWikis... surprised I didn't know that! — Timneu22 ·talk 17:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of country songs (2nd nomination)
The opening line says they have to be notable. In other words, already have (or likely to have) an article on WP. Lugnuts (talk) 18:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Crap
You do not undo the work of others simply by dismissing it as "crap". DuncanHill (talk) 18:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
You really need to reign back your edit summaries generally, or take a break. DuncanHill (talk) 19:03, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Advice
Some unsolicited advice you can take or leave. If you want othet editors to help with something, maybe a talk page post would help. This[61] just looks like you're throwing a tantrum and likely won't get the sort of attention you want it too.--Cube lurker (talk) 19:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello TenPoundHammer. May you please offer some additional comments to the featured article review you began? Thanks, Airplaneman ✈ 00:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
You Belong with Me
OK, I'll go check the GAN in just a moment. As for the screenshot... it shouldn't matter. If Swift has a VEVO account (I believe her label is an imprint of Universal Republic so she should), the video there should be of high enough quality. –Chase (talk) 20:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
The best bets look like 1:56 and 2:00 as they clearly show Swift donning both the marching band and cheerleader personas. –Chase (talk) 01:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
DYK for The Summit (Wheatfield)
On April 30, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Summit (Wheatfield), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your participation in the April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive
GAN backlog elimination drives chart up to 1 May
On behalf of my co-coordinator Wizardman, I'd like to especially thank you for your efforts over this past month's GAN backlog elimination drive. It has been nothing short of a complete success, which hopefully results in more expedient good article reviews, increasing users' confidence in the good article nomination processes. Even if you made just a small contribution, it still helped contribute to the success of this drive. Here is what we have accomplished this last month in this drive.
661 total nominations were reviewed. 541 of them passed (~81.8%), 97 (~14.7%) failed, and 23 (~3.5%) ended on hold.
Excluding extremes, the longest wait for someone's GAN to be review was about 11.5 weeks at the beginning. (I mistook the figure when I reported to the Signpost that it was 13.) At the end, with the exception of one that was relisted, the longest wait is now at 10 days.
63 different users participated, each having completed at least one GAN, with others also having helped out behind-the-scenes in making the drive a success.
The drive started with 463 GA nominations remaining and 388 unreviewed. At the end of the month, we ended with 89 remaining (374 or about 80.8% less) and 47 unreviewed (341 or about 87.9% less).
For those who have accomplished certain objectives in the drive, awards will be coming shortly. Again, thank you for your help in the drive, and I hope you continue to help review GA nominations and overall improve the quality of articles here on Wikipedia.
Hi. I'm about to declare war on the "episode status" sections of all these game show articles. They're composed of a combination of (1) speculation ("tapes of the show are believed to have been wiped by NBC"); (2) far too much information about GSN reruns (stuff along the lines of "the 1984-1985, 1986-1987 and 1990-1991 seasons of the CBS daytime version reran on GSN at 5:30 PM from January 4, 2001 to April 6, 2004, when it was replaced by the 1986-1987 season of the Bob Eubanks version of Card Sharks, which ran until September 4, 2007"); (3) discussions of people's private tape collections, which are neither verifiable nor encyclopedic to begin with (should the Wheel of Fortune article include the fact that I own a DVD of the episode on which I was a contestant? I think not); (4) and miscellaneous OR and uncited trivia. A Google search for the phrase "Episode status" in domain en.wikipedia.org brings up 610 hits. I'm going to need some help. Care to join me? I'm also afraid that this is going to spark a conflict with the editor who's responsible for much of this. We've both dealt with him in the past. Best, JTRH (talk) 22:43, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
TPH, I have some new information posted on Sottolacqua's talk page. Let me know what you think. JTRH (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Please continue this discussion on your own talk pages. I appreciate your consideration for my opinion, but I am not interested in helping with the project. Thanks for understanding Sottolacqua (talk) 19:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I re-posted the new info on my own page. JTRH (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Big Kenny
Hey, I just wanted to respond to your Big Kenny comment you left on my talk page....I deleted the information that was wrong. His name is not Bob Alphin and I replaced the photo of John Rich with one of him that I found online that is licensed for public use :-). I also went through google and found a bunch of new articles from the news section and cited them about what is currently going on with/has gone on with Big Kenny. Please don't delete my entries :). I spent a really long time going back and forth and reading the Welcome page and citing the right sources and finding out true and current information. :-) Thank yoU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.157.51 (talk) 22:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Big Kenny 2
I didn't wipe it out, I moved it to his bio part and deleted the info that wasn't correct according to the news articles online. I researched every place I could find and never saw him referred to as "Bob" Alphin. I even went to his website and there was nothing. Also, it never said that he worked with RPM Management (I could only see that Tim McGraw did) so I deleted that part. I am trying really, really hard to help make his wiki accurate since I am a big fan. I don't want to break any rules but everything I have up there is correct according to news articles I sited. Can you please help me figure this out??? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.157.51 (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject Country Music
I have decided to open up a new debate at the WikiProject Country Music talk page, and am hoping you'll participate in this new discussion. The topic concerns what information we should include in the notes field for those No. 1 songs boxes we've included in the years in country music articles. This discussion grew out of an edit war at the List of number-one country hits of 2010 (U.S.) article, and was over whether to include songwriter information for the song "Gimmie That Girl" by Joe Nichols. An editor listed Rhett Akins as a songwriter (since he had a previous No. 1 hit as a performer; he thought that because of that, that bit of information should be included). Others disagreed with the notability, an edit war ensued and the page was locked from editing. So here's where I ask for your help. What do you think should be included in these notes section? Please post your thoughts at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Country Music (preferred) or the List of number-one country hits of 2010 (U.S.) talk page. Thank you. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)]]
You Belong With Me GA
I believe you misunderstood what I said. Regarding the Billboard charts, you can definitely use the AC and HCS charts, just don't use the word Billboard in front of it. Only the Hot 100 and 200 are known as Billboard Hot 100 and Billboard 200. The others are just left as their chart names. --Legolas(talk2me) 03:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
You have addressed the issues. Anyways the GA was passed so that's great :) --Legolas(talk2me) 03:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
GAN backlog elimination drive award
The Good Article Reviewer's Medal of Merit
For reviewing 23 good article nominations during the April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive, I hereby present you The Good Article Reviewer's Medal of Merit. Congratulations! –MuZemike 22:59, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
It is strange that it hasn't been mentioned anywhere else, but I see no reason not to trust Billboard. Unfortunately, that particular issue was sent out with a generic country_update URL. Eric444 (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
T. Yearwood
How do you like the new free image I found for the Trisha Yearwood article? Yes, it's a slight bit blurry, but that's only because the main infobox only let it fit to that size on the article. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 19:58, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
A pinch of too much hyperbole
Hiya,
yeah, I know I'm probably biased here since I'm a reader of the Webcomic, but I feel in the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jack_(webcomic) discussion you used a pinch too much hyperbole. Calling something a "cheapo award that's apparently doled out like free samples at Costco" is not very nice, and using it to essentially slap some user (or at least his opinion) in the face with it is even less so... So I'd like to offer you some nice Ice Cream so you can chill a bit. Let's be all friends here. Best wishes CharonX/talk 11:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Merger question
Hi Hammer- I nominated The Soprano's character, Phil Leotardo, for deletion or merger and the consensus was "merge to List of The Sopranos characters" [62]. I only nominated the one character but mentioned all the secondary characters with individual articles and the votes were merge all. Should I simply transfer the one whole article unchanged to the List of The Sopranos characters? That article currently has no biographies and is simply a list with links. I did not notify the principle editors of these other secondary characters that their articles were subject to being mergered. I'm concerned about editor reactions if I merge more than Phil's. Eudemis (talk) 00:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand what you're getting at here. CloversMallRat (talk) 19:29, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
I think I realize what you're talking about now: if you meant the comma on She Won't Be Lonely Long, I didn't add that... my edit only added italics to his previous album, Fall. CloversMallRat (talk) 19:32, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
One, the reason I couldn't list their real estate website is because in 2010, a smaller/private company purchased the mall. They're called Bel-Air 8 Mile LLC. The former realtors were Developers Diversified Realty. However, Bel-Air Centre does have a Twitter & Facebook page that are updated frequently, and if you have any other concerns about whether it's a legit regional/major shopping center, you can call Arthur G. Rosen at 1-888-365-0107. In fact, they even have a new anchor as of May, and it's a realtively major naitonal retailer alled Cabinets To Go (inside hte old Builder Square/National Wholesale Liquidators space). And according to te twitter page, additional retailers are expected to open in the near future. Finally, thwy are listed on the website Mall Walker. I would love to start correcting my page that was deleted and get it plavrf back on wikipedia if I knew how, but I can't find the page so I can make any edits. Really, the mall is pretty much equivalent to (if not larger than) Tel-Tweleve Mall Of Michigan, Southgate Shopping Center Of Michigan, Arborland Center of Michigan, Shoppes At Gateway Plaza Of Michigan, Brighton Mall Of Michigan and now Universal Mall Of Michigan, all of whic hhave wikipedia pages and none of them have been deleted. Besides, I don't think a real strip mall would be as large as this place is and house (or previously house) so many big stores.
RE: Deletion Of Bel-air Centre (Detroit) Article...
How much proof exactly fo you want?
Even Tel-TEleve Mall only has 2-3 reference (Arborland only has one news article, and just like what I had in my Bel-Air Centre article a real-estate listing plus Tel-Televe Mall only has two news articles).
That said, there are plenty of "news" artciles available that "proves" Bel-air Cetnre is a "Real" regional shopping mall, but they're all archived so one wouldn't be able to see them unles stehy paid for them.
Deleting messages from established users' talk pages
Hi TPH, deleting messages from talk pages of established users without their permission, like you did in this edit to User talk:Guppie, is completely unacceptable. Don't ever do it again. Graham87 12:16, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
hey
Under the denominations section of Islam we are trying to get a reference on percentages on the adherents of each denomination. But so far we only have sources on statistics for Shia and Sunni, not other sects such as Ibadi, Sufi or Ahmadiyya (which has led to edit warring). Could you add that to the list of substantial concerns in Islam please?
By the way, i think the article is almost ready for featured status. Leave a message on my talk page please. Thank you
Iwanttoeditthissh (talk) 11:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello, a while back I got the idea to write an article on Eddie Bayers from your list of 'Music articles to be created'. I just put the article up for Good Article Assessment. Since there are not too many active editors that are interested in country music I thought I would invite you to assess the article. I see that you are on vacation, and I will also be on vacation from June 20-30 so there is no rush. If you don't have the time or just don't want to do it no big deal, I'm sure it will get assessed sooner or later. Either way thanks for the idea for the article, I had fun writing it. Enjoy your vacation, J04n(talk page) 03:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Songfacts article
Thanks for the note on the Songfacts article. I'll take a look and see if I can improve it and pass the notability test. Most of the press coverage the site has received has been on the radio, which is impossible to cite, but I think there is some stuff online that will help. I appreciate your help with this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ndugu (talk • contribs) 00:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The guy whos been reverting your edits is the CREATER of tvtropes: Fast Eddie!Super mario fan (talk) 20:13, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Grab some glory, and a barnstar
Hi, I'd like to invite you to participate in the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. In May, about 30 editors helped remove the {{copyedit}} tag from 1175 articles. The backlog is still over 7500 articles, and extends back to the beginning of 2008! We really need your help to reduce it. Copyediting just a couple articles can qualify you for a barnstar. Serious copyeditors can win prestigious and exclusive rewards. See the event page for more information. And thanks for your consideration. monosock 18:07, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Why am I getting this message? Mono's delivery method is random, so you probably showed up somewhere Mono went. :)
Upun my word
I was otterly convinced I otter drop by and otter a word or two to welcome you back from your vacation. Hope you had fun.- Sinneed 18:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
GA
Looks like I'm about to get another GA. Please refrain from destroying this nomination. Thank you.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 23:15, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Trying again
Hello again. On WT:CSD, I have reproposed (after discussion was archived) the "A11" criterion for deletion of how-to articles. I am not including essay articles at this time. Since you are familiar with the topic, I thought I'd let you know so that you could voice your opinion on this. — Timneu22 ·talk 15:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Country charts
I haven't got good coverage of the country genre in {{singlechart}}, or in WP:GOODCHARTS, for that matter. Could you give me a quick rundown of sources for the most frequently used charts?—Kww(talk) 00:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Are people generally sourcing modern country songs to paper books? I was assuming that I was missing things when I scanned country articles and didn't see a pattern of common genre charts. I've got Billboard's country chart, and am planning on adding the UK country chart at http://www.theofficialcharts.com/country-charts/ . I know there's an ARIA chart as well, but I can't find a convenient archive of it.—Kww(talk) 01:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Greenwood Mall
Hello! Your submission of Greenwood Mall at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 16:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Changing user name
I've been thinking about changing my username, which would mean I probably have to create another account =( would I be able to do that as long as I don't use my old account ever again? I don't want to be part of a case of sockpuppetry. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 21:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
New user name
Hello. I just changed my user name from "Dottiewest1fan" to "ChrisTofu11961". Any messages can be left at the same talk page. Thank you =) ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 22:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Help with people editing articles about themselves
This is a comment I sent to Wasted Time R- I'm not good with WP policy, but he also feels these people don't reach WP:Notability. Please help with this- he recommended you as being effective with this kind of problem.
I ran across this here: Saadat Awan. I am currently a Washington, D.C. resident. I usually hear about new producers, DJs, clubs, and especially, musicians. I have worked at times in some of the best venues, not just in this area, but in Rio de Janeiro, Toronto, and a couple other places, which proved helpful in knowing performers and getting photos. I never heard of this one. The article history shows he's writing it about himself. While it's possible he's somehow recording something, the bands he lists are even another matter! The Metropolitan boasts a member named John Masters, (1914–1983)! for example, and the article is written entirely as the sole project of someone without a user or talk page, really. Another band he claims as his, The Cassettes consists of himself, another "new" editor who wrote 99% of that article, Shelby Cinca who appears to have some musical experience, but also wrote his own article about himself, and then, comes bandmate Arthur Harrison, (3 February 1886 – 23 April 1918 of the English Royal Navy!?!), and a fourth who at least didn't leave horrific trails all over all these articles. I really don't want to bite the newcomers, but it appears that they are all writing articles to bolster their career aspirations with some dubious notability, leaving poor references, if any, with all these various multiple articles to cleanup in their wake! I know I was bad at first, but my intentions were not self-promotion!! I am not known for diplomacy, nor do I like handling stuff like this. Pretty please, would you help put an end or something to this insanity? It's hard enough cleaning up after all the actually notable people in the Wikipedia as it is!! AAAGH %&5!?#@@!--Leahtwosaints (talk) 06:11, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I focus on editing and adding photos for the musicians' biographies, spending an incredible amount of time in cleanup and making infoboxes and such. I have little contact with other editors, so I really appreciate your help with this. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
While I didn't work on the article, mainly due to me asking for it to be demoted, I'm here to ask if your decision on delisting Half-Life 2 still stands as that the review can close. GamerPro64 (talk) 13:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Pinging just in case you didn't notice this post. GamerPro64 (talk) 21:09, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Greenwood Mall
On June 21, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Greenwood Mall, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I saw you posted comments on the Mac FAR. There is a new push to close the nomination, and any uncited material will be sourced or removed immediately. We've made a lot of progress. HereToHelp(talk to me) 04:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
WP:SLOBBERINGFANBOY
You stated you were going to write that essay in past AfD's. I was just wondering why you didn't write it. STAT-Verse 01:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Bizarre edit summaries
Apparently, someone has a beef with you. Please see recent edit summaries here. I left a warning on their talk, but just wanted to give you a heads up. Have a good one. — Satori Son 20:05, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
John Anderson
Explain to me how lifting the entire liner notes verbatim isn't a copyright violation. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 03:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay smarty first I did not lift the entire liner notes verbatim, yes I used them. However I did get permission from John Anderson to do this. He and I live close to each other and have quite a few friends that are the same and I was told that it would look better, than just erasing everything the way you did. When you deleted what you seem to think is the "entire liner notes verbatim" you erased quite a lot more information than you realize. So please do not delete the information go ahead and edit it to what you feel is comfortable but he wants the page to reflect the album as much as possible
MDSanker ([[User talk:MDSanker|talk]]) 26 Jun 2010 (UTC)
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Jimmy Pitt (talk) 17:05, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not saying you're wrong -- I missed the chart entry in the table! -- but you really should familiarise yourself with WP:CSD, which states, "The creator of a page may not remove a Speedy Delete tag from it. Only an editor who is not the creator of a page may do so." If you'd asked, I could have removed it, but you're not supposed to.Jimmy Pitt (talk) 17:21, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Heyo! Hey, you being great with music articles, do you think you could drop by this one? I just responded to a post at WP:EAR that appears to be from the artist herself, who doesn't like the article as it is; I've encouraged her to go to the talk page and start working on it that way, but she's going to need an experienced editor or two to help her along. I'll try my best, but my workload lately has been insane and I'm not sure what time I'll have for it. I'm going to stub the article down because she claims it's totally incorrect, and hopefully allow for a rebuild of the bio sections from there. Thanks for any help you can provide! Tony Fox(arf!) 18:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't know what he has to work with, and I frankly don't care. Judging by the list of articles he created located on his user page, he is a capable editor, so I think he deserves a chance to at least try, it won't hurt anything. I saw you strike out his response, which seemed a bit strange, do you have something against this user? Nowyouseemetalk2me 18:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I left him a nicey-nice comment on his talk page, I'll see if he responds to me. Would you mind telling me what all this otter stuff is about? Nowyouseemetalk2me 19:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Article Deletion, hoping for revival
Hi, I'm fairly new to editing Wikipedia but I'm interested in reviving a deleted page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Friars_(musical_group)
I have compiled additional sources and information that I think will help meet the notability and citation standards and am looking for some help in getting the page back up. Any advice? Thanks Drewbo19 (talk) 20:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Explanations
Here are my explanations of the regretful actions I have commited on Wikipedia.
1. The "'How Far Do You Wanna Go?' -- Gloriana (album)" redirect, I just thought that low-charters had to be redirected no matter what. Take "It's a Love Thing" for example. Before I edited it, it was redirected, and it was still a minor Top 20 hit (#18 specifically). I have been on Wikipedia for quite a while, but I don't know everything there is to know about Wikipedia.
2. The "censored profanity" edit, I, for whatever reason, had the idea that you were ALLOWED to use censored profanity. I noticed on an edit you made on "Keith Urban discography" on 00:56, 20 October 2009. You said "can't cite another article as a source dumbass." So, there you go. Also, "can't cite another article," that IP was actually ME. I am not offended, but, again, I was new to Wikipedia back when I made that edit.
3. The use of ALLCAPS, some idiot kept changing "corn" to "porn."
4. The chart performance vandalism on "Rain Is a Good Thing," once again, I was new to Wikipedia. Some idiot made the previous edit, and I was stupid enough to believe that it was true.
5. Now is it bad that I don't answer my talk page? Indeed. Maybe I've been busy. I have another account on another website, and I usually check that one more often.
6. And finally, the "Suite Life On Deck" future episode edit, someone uploaded the episode to YouTube, and I was able to watch it and summarize it in the "list of episodes" page, even including a source. Little did I know that TV.com is not reliable. I just need to know what sources are reliable and unreliable.
So, am I problematic? Yes, but rather unintentionally. And for the last time, I still don't know that much about Wikipedia, despite creating numerous articles. So hopefully, I won't be as problematic as I was. --Shoesquashfan5000 (talk) 22:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted your help with this article. Recently, there have been several editors adding in information about the Temple Layouts. While some of it is verifiable via the original episodes themselves (which clearly satisfy WP:SELFPUB), a lot of the information added reeks of original research. If you could help make the article better in that regard, I would appreciate it. Thanks. RJaguar3 | u | t 18:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
TenPoundHammer,
The page for [Sweeney] has been updated with an image (Sunny_Sweeney_2010.jpg) that was chosen by the artist, Sunny Sweeney. The previous file (Sunny_Sweeney.jpg) however keeps showing back up on her Wiki page. I was instructed by the artist to upload the new file which is a better representation of what her appearance truly is. For whatever reason the older image is re-edited back to her page every time I correct it. Since I am new to Wiki my hopes are that you would be able to provide some guidance as to how I may correct this issue. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
If I offended you personally, I apologize. It was not my intention.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
If I am blocked, please do me the favor of writing and bringing to DYK Lovin' Her was Easier (Than Anything I'll Ever Do Again). I hoped to write an article on this song, but I fear my days are numbered. Just so you know, when I called you monkey boy, I meant it in an affectionate way. I thought you would like the mammal reference. Anyways, farewell.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 07:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
CfD
Thanks I have withdrawn it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
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DYK for Cunningham Drug (U.S.)
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this song charted in more countries and has more information than the original version so deserves a article to itself. see WP:SONGS. thanks Yids2010 (talk) 21:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Can you restore the chart references that you deleted when you moved the article. Yids2010 (talk) 21:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
52nd Gramy Awards
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I do have to say though, please don't template the regulars.
Like I always say "A template is always the best way to say something". TbhotchTalkC. 02:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Lovin' Her Was Easier (Than Anything I'll Ever Do Again)
I have an idea of merging the album section and the EP section into one. Reasons are:
Albums and EPs are both collection of tracks
EPs appear in all Billboard album charts.
If bonus tracks are included in an EP, is it still an EP? (e.g. 1 or 2 bonus tracks added to a 8-track EP; see The Fame Monster.)
It is a new idea and it hasn't been use anywhere yet. Please do not included this as a reason. An example can be seen here. Please add responses here. Thank you. Langdon (talk) 20:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Afd Filing
Thanks for the assistance. I'll review the proper procedure again; I thought I was doing it correctly but I'm still new to this. Thanks again! BrianSfinasSSI (talk) 15:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
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Carrie Underwood discography
EnDaLeCoMpLeX & myself have worked on this to try to make it featured list again, and I believe most/all of the problems listed here have been addressed, and I wanna see if you can take a gander at it and tell me what else that it needs done. The only thing we couldn't address is sourcing the Canadian country peaks, since there is no archive for them, so do you think they should be removed or left unsourced? thnx Nowyouseemetalk2me 05:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Roll To Me
It just seemed weird to have a redirect to a redirect. Nowyouseemetalk2me 02:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
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Could you look and see what's wrong with the track listing template? I do not see anything that would cause it to be messed up. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 19:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I actually nominated it per WP:NALBUMS because the album actually provides very little context and doesn't really have enough information to reliably warrant a detailed indepedent page. Therefore I don't appreciate messages like the one you left on my talk page. If you disagree with a reason feel free to voice your opinion at the AfD discussion. But leaving messages like the one you did on my talk page appears to scold me for nominating something for deletion. The whole point of AfD is to open discussions about articles and give people chance to improve them if they do not meet the criteria set out out WP:NALBUMS (in this case) and WP:GNG. Nowhere does it say that providing one external link is a sufficient form of referencing. I have a concern that it is not notable. I tagged it back in June and no one has done anything about it therefore I'm well entitled to (just as anyone else would be) to nominate the article for deletion. I am well aware of the deletion policy and I've have not ignored it. If anything I've acted upon it. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Per the relevant deletion policy of WP:NALBUMS if there is no specific information about the albums itself then what is the purpose of the album page. Information about the charted singles could be given at John Conlee because the album page itself doesn't really provide any information about the album other than information which is already on the singles pages etc. I've seen a lot of things go through AfD and certainly by albums this is a weak example. Also why create a disambiguation link for Rose Colored Glasses (John Conlee song) when the likelihood is it will never exist? --Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
In fact I'm going to ask that you delete the Disambiguation page. The hat-note at the song "Rose Colored Glasses" sufficed. And you felt otherwise it should have been discussed first. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the explaination it helps. Hmmm but creating a page to just say that a song charted is not notable per WP:NSONGS. There has to be sufficient detail to warrant a stand alone page.--Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
By all means please go ahead and create the article if possible. Yet if there is not coverage from independent sources about the song seperate from the article it will not be notable. In that case the info should be added to the album's page. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
At quick glance it does seem to be relatively detailed given its age and given that the article was written miles after the release. Well done. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Also thank you for going through and correcting all the pages that previously linked to "Rose Colored Glasses". Not every user does this. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
has been restored. This could be userified for you, as in the state it is presently in, I could see it being sent to AFD before too long. Courcelles (talk) 21:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I disagree with the assessment that Daily Tortilla Intake is a blatant hoax. I think it's more of a case of a neologism lacking reliable sources. However, as the article appears to have been created in good faith, and it appears to be on a legitimate concept with an uncommon name, I don't think it's a hoax.
That said, I've recommended deletion in the AfD, and I don't see the article surviving deletion. A snowball delete might be in order, but I don't think a speedy delete as a hoax is. If there's something in the article I've missed, please let me know, and I'll take another look. —C.Fred (talk) 18:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: At That Point
Yes thanks for heads-up. I've gone back and reexplained by nomination. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Is it still confusing? --Lil-unique1 (talk) 03:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I think your "frakking" comment at the above AfD was both inappropriate and counterproductive. It mocks several Wikipedia guidelines and has definitely earned chastisement. While you are the "TenPoundHammer", perhaps you can reserve some of its weight when dropping it on a new user. The true measure of your own value may now be measured, at least to the eyes of this Wikipedian, in weather or not you choose to retract. I am interested to see if you qualify your remark at that location. My76Strat 22:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Template:The Wreckers
Somebody made like a dozen edits to Template:The Wreckers, and they aren't good ones, and its not really possible for me to fix it all. I think in the past I've seen you show the ability to revert multiple edits? If you can do that, I'd really appreciate that. CloversMallRat (talk) 16:32, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Faith Hill discography
I think it's fine
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I've been doing a lot of work on Legends of the Hidden Temple the past few weeks, and I've been thinking of putting the article of up for peer review or another good article nomination (it's definitely come a long way since the first nomination in 2008). I was wondering if you could help with these issues:
Sourcing. Most of the controversial statements are now sourced. However, I haven't been able to find much about Legends's run on Nick GAS or the 2007 Nickelodeon run. Also, I need to find more sources to demonstrate that Legends has a cult following: I have read articles in student newspapers about events themed on Legends, but that Loftus Newsweek current article went dead and I haven't been able to find it again. Also, while the gameplay section doesn't appear to be referenced, I think it doesn't need to be, as any controversial statements can be sourced by a reference to any episode ever aired (which qualifies as a reliable source under WP:SELFPUB).
Content. The only places I could see expansion is in a "reception" section, which I might write.
Copy-editing. You might be a better judge of prose quality than I am, seeing as how I wrote most of the content that has changed since the first nomination.
Let me know what you think. Thanks again. RJaguar3 | u | t 18:21, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! I like Pam too, I think she is one of the most under appreciated female country singers. I saw her perform riverside at the CMA Music Fest in June and she was awesome! Nowyouseemetalk2me 20:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Sources
Does anyone even AGF anymore? Did it perhaps occur to you that I was looking in the wrong places? The searches I did turned up plot summaries of the south park episode, and advertisements, along with a single news source that wasn't strictly about the singular item, but it, and other items; a passing mention. Sure, the binders were quite common in those days, but a specific brand? And last I checked, the single south park episode was based on the Terminator series, the fact that it is under the guise of 'trapper keeper' is just a plot device; a mask, etc.
Again, what does it take to AGF? Why is this so much to ask. Instead of pointlessly posting with a confrontational/possibly even insulting tone, please, please, assume good faith.— DædαlusContribs 04:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if the above came off a little harsh. As said on IRC, I've been heavily distracted by research and script realization. I've not been doing much, if anything on WP. Either way, night.— DædαlusContribs 04:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Mine (song)
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Hi. I started the RFC at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Naming conventions for United States federal buildings close to four weeks ago. As I understand it, these things should run for about thirty days, and the discussion has pretty much petered out anyway, so I'm looking for a neutral admin to delve into the discussion, determine whether and what consensus has been reached, and bring the discussion to an appropriate close. Would you like to take on this task? I ask because you've been popping up on my talk page a lot lately, so you seem usefully active. Cheers! bd2412T 03:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that's kind of a surprise. Are you interested in becoming one? bd2412T 00:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to hear that. It's unfair, to be sure. bd2412T 00:30, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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You prematurely merged, in the wrong direction, power centre as the major article, retail center, which has a neutral, non-self-congratulatory title, as the subsection. The proposal was to submerge the smug name, not the objective one. Time for the merger discussion has not lapsed. Not sure why you did this. Student7 (talk) 16:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The pr industry may want it to be known as power centre in the US. I live in the US, and have never heard any shopping center called anything but that or a shopping mall. More importantly, I read quite a bit, including business publications, and haven't seen it there either. I know a lot of real estate people. They have never mentioned it. If this were mentioned in the circles I travel in, it would be laughed at! So I dispute the claim that it is "often" used in the US. I would say more like "never" or "seldom, except by developers."
Second, there was a merger proposal to have the opposite done, after a discussion in the Wikipolicy on titles. The merger was proposed there. The merger was not concluded. In any event, the commonly used name, "Retail center" or "shopping center" should not be a tiny part of the never/seldom used name. Student7 (talk) 16:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Regarding Cass Heights, Michigan, first of all, I applaud your determination that the article was a hoax. However, as you lack the sysop bit at this time, I believe you overstepped in closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cass Heights, Michigan. Per Wikipedia:Non-admin closure, you should not close a discussion where action by an administrator is required to carry out the result. In a situation like this, you should tag the article for speedy deletion (which you did), but rather than close the discussion as a non-admin closure, you should put in a !vote for speedy deletion on the AFD page, and then let an administrator review the speedy deletion nomination and determine whether or not to carry it out. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 20:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Twinkle
I'm wondering if you could stop using TW for MfD. As you can see, it's been creating a bit of a problem with date headers. Thanks. Kayau VotingISevil 06:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: Bubbling Under
Hey TPH. The problem is that there are two charts: Top 100 and Bubbling Under. To put Bubbling Under chart numbers in the Top 100 list doesn't make sense to me, for the obvious reason that the song isn't in the Top 100 chart (thus making the inclusion somewhat OR and synthesis, in a fashion), and for the less obvious reason that inclusion in the Top 100 list ascribes a degree of notability to the song that doesn't exist for the Bubbling Under chart. Yes, there's exactly one position that separates the two charts, 100 and 101; but in the end it is the Top 100, not the Top 125. They simply weren't good enough to break the surface. Oh, and the otters are adorable. — Huntster (t@c) 03:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Photon Wave Orchestra
Thanks, that was very painless. Nuujinn (talk) 12:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Connie Smith
What do you think of the Connie Smith article? I finished rewriting it. Could it possibly be a GA article? I'm not sure. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 19:11, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok. Could you possibly help me with that? ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 19:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't on yesterday to additionally fix grammar mistakes and what not, but thank you so much! I really appreciate it. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 01:24, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Canadian Country Charts
I disagree with that completely. No way it needs to go anywhere. I've also responded to the discussion. CloversMallRat (talk) 21:20, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Dialog?
If you'd like to talk, I'd be happy. Contact me off-wiki at [email protected] —Tim Carrite (talk) 23:42, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
not equal sign
Hey, where'd you get that. I don't have one on my keyboard. Dlohcierekim 15:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I was just wondering how much better my life might have been if I'd bought the Mac instead . . . . Cheers, Dlohcierekim
Please consider group nomming the pages using {{mfd}} instead of creating multiple mfds like that. Thanks. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 18:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
2009 in country music
Sorry, I just got back from vacation. Let me get caught up first and then I'll see what I can do. Eric444 (talk) 01:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I deleted Josh Willhouse, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:43, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Relisting an AfD in which you are involved
I'm not going to revert you on it, but this is probably not ideal. WP:RELIST refers to "the closer", which as you know is by necessity someone who has been uninvolved in the discussion. With your comment that it had been open for 8 days, I imagine you were treating this as a routine housekeeping measure (and I'm also imagining you were feeling impatient that more comments were not forthcoming), but really it should be someone uninvolved who makes a decision about whether to close it or to relist it. It's not inconceivable that an admin might have closed it as "no consensus", which I'm guessing was not what you wanted. Sorry if I'm making any faulty assumptions, though. Paul Erik(talk)(contribs) 18:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Alyak, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to software. Thank you. GedUK 20:49, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't really know where people are.. a lot of country music editors (Caldorwards, BravesFan, EnDaLeCoMpLeX) never really voice an opinion during discussions, I think they just want to be neutral or can't be bothered. Either way, even if every one of them wanted to 'keep' these unverified positions, it wouldn't matter, since they are violating WP:V. It is a bit frustrating having to say the same thing over and over on that page, they just aren't hearing it. Basically their argument is "Even though these positions are violating Wikipedia policy, lets make an exception and keep them anyway." It can't and won't hold up. I just saw that Clovers is restoring all the country positions, saying "the discussion isn't over", like there is going to be an agreement to keep unsourced material x_o Nowyouseemetalk2me 03:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Just start removing the CAN country positions, they are not sourced and can legitimately be removed no matter how much they don't like it. If they try to add the content back, they can be legitimately warned with Twinkle, the one I used on BravesFan (addition of unsourced or improperly cited material), it describes this situation perfectly. With enough warnings they can be reported, and maybe temporarily blocked, which I'm sure would be the wake up call needed. Nowyouseemetalk2me 03:15, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Well eventually that's an argument she won't be able to use since we've started adding refs, we just gotta keep adding. Personally I would wait to put that category up for deletion until the 2010 number ones article is taken care of, but it doesn't really matter, whenever you want to. Nowyouseemetalk2me 21:01, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Sandbox
Can I help with this this, too? I'm pretty sure I understand on what to do with each ref. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 18:51, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi TPH, would you mind restoring this to how you had it earlier please, as it may not really seem all that notable, though if this had no proper article to link to, it would be David Bowie's only single not to have an article. Best, --Discographer (talk) 01:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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Dude, I followed the steps outlined for listing an article for AFD. Check out the article talk page and the AFD talk page. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 22:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I tripped over you. I guess we were both trying to complete the nom at the same time: you won. I think there's a guideline that says that means you owe me a beer. I swear: I read that somewhere. -- Rrburke (talk) 22:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Fixing Liza Jane
Perhaps I will. In the meantime I would like to remind you that civility is a policy. Both of these edits[65][66] appear to be incivil to me. --JD554 (talk) 05:38, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Charts
Don't you think it would be better to source the American peaks when you remove the Canadian ones? Eric444 (talk) 07:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't know what the precedent is but the article itself is nothing more than a list of the chart's number one songs. For a topic to have its own article, it should meet general notability requirements, but this is just a stub that offers little information and should be merged to Billboard charts#Rock and this one could be moved to List of number-one songs on the Billboard Rock Songs chart (ok, a bit wordy and it's going to have to be split by years eventually). A few of the other individual chart articles would be better off being merged as well. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 21:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Why? The Rock songs chart itself offers no information that isn't already in Billboard charts beyond the list. And I don't see what difference it makes if the list just goes to redirect. The information is the same and a separate article is not warranted. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 22:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I notice you do a lot of work on the notability of musicians and music could you throw your eye at this article I have nominated for deletion, I feel it doesn't pass our criteria but another established user does. Could you let me know if I am way off the mark with the nomination or if it is debatable thanks. Mo ainm~Talk 19:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
TPH, would you mind revisiting the FAR of Chess, found at WP:Featured article review/Chess/archive3? I think that most of your concerns have been resolved, and if it has been fixed up, it would be great if it could be kept before going to FARC. Thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 23:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
DYK for R.C. Bannon
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Yeah, of course. But I'm going to be really busy today and I'm not sure if I'll have a large amount of time to work on it right off the bat. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 13:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: your message: DMFA draft in my user namespace
Yes, I'm aware I had to pause editing it for a month or so; things came up at work. It's next on my to-do list ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sim (talk • contribs) 03:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Category
hey.. the 2010 Canada number ones article has been deleted, so u wanna go ahead and put Category:Canadian Country Singles number-one singles up for deletion? Nowyouseemetalk2me 19:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Article: Jeffrey Vinokur
Hello TenPoundHammer,
I am the original editor of the article Jeffrey Vinokur which you suggested for deletion. This was the first article I have written for wikipedia and I admit it needs a lot of work, but I do believe the subject person is notable. The subject has appeared significantly in 3 different reliable news sources:
He has also appeared in the Badger Herald, the largest independent student newspaper in the nation, and also pictured in the Chicago Sun Times.
According to the General notability guidelines the above newspapers are reliable sources and Vinokur was the main person covered in three of the independent sources. I believe this serves as reliable evidence.
What are your thoughts? I would appreciate your help greatly. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeghersh (talk • contribs) 20:28, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
A Little Bit Stronger
Thanks for the tirade, because accidently linking to Hillary Scott was the end of the world as we know it. Since you fixed the problem yourself anyways, you went out of your way to act like a jerk. CloversMallRat (talk) 22:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Batch-nom
Thanks for the reminder, I'm tagging the articles now. Claritas§ 21:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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And please stop renominating the same article for speedy deletion over and over. That kind of behavior is starting to border on disruptive. SchuminWeb (Talk) 17:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
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Generally speaking, unless it's really controversial, non-free images don't need to go through FFD. There is a "deletable image" process that ends at speedy deletion after a waiting period. On Twinkle, it's the "DI" link on the TW tab.
Reason I bring it up is because I noticed File:Foxtrotfarscape.png in the FFD list, and it appears you might be unaware of the other process. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
The World Is Ours Tonight
I merged the important info into the album article, which, btw, was very limited on info to start with. Piling what little important info there is about the song into a perma-stub article is not preferrable to a small chunk of info in the album page. You've redirected articles in the past w/ out discussing them, why does this have to be any different? CloversMallRat (talk) 03:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Succession boxes
hey.. you might wanna take a gander at this. Nowyouseemetalk2me 03:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Re: The Steeldrivers
Congratulations! Chubbles (talk) 18:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Canadian Country.
Do you have any idea why the charting positions for the Canadian Country charts are disappearing? Both Jason Blaine and Dean Brody only show where their singles peaked on the Canadian Hot 100. Seen your name in a few of the histories so figured I'd ask if you know. It's kinda pissing me off that they're gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanenrake (talk • contribs) 14:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Dear Ten Pound person and your otters - your arguement has NO basis whatsoever. If you are removing chart history then you might as well go ahead and remove everything else in the bio as well. You cannot call some magical Government agency or outside organization and confirm that **anything** in these artists bios are true either so what is the difference?
As has already been stated by another poster, these charts have been on Wikipedia for the last 5 plus years without issue. Why all of a sudden do you feel it necessary to mess with them now? I find it very suspicious that you are doing this during the Canadian Country Music Awards, wonder what your motive is? As I stated preivously, you are being selective in who and what you are removing, not all charts have been removed and some of what you have removed has been replaced with incorrect numbers and also dashes, which, according to you, denotes the song did not chart.
I already gave you names of charts you can access and people to call so you can verify and satisfy your needs yet you refuse to. As such, I can only surmise that you are creating havoc for these artists to be malicious and I would like to know why. Snowback22 15:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowback22 (talk • contribs)
I am starting to think that you are targeting our page unfairly. I have viewed posts and changes on other pages, made by the representatives for the artists and you are not citing them with "conflict of interest" so please stop doing so to me with changes pertaining to Chris Cummings page. I have no conflict of interest, it is my duty to ensure that the information on the page is correct, and it was and is not! so when I see something that needs updating, how is it a conflict to do so?
The website links that I updated today have been out of date on this page for quite some time, never updated by anyone else so I did it. That is not a conflict of interest that is called maintenance. For verification, you can click on the newly updated links to confirm they now take you to the proper location. The out of date website your group had posted directed traffic to an ADULT website, I have since corrected that link. Please kindly refrain from accusing me of anything further. Snowback22 21:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowback22 (talk • contribs)
Just so you know, there is a whole series of these. I have been documenting them for a few weeks now, and the fruits of that labor are here: User:Uncle_Milty/Hoax_page_links I brought them to the attention of one admin, but I think he may have been too busy to care. I think the whole series is a waste of resources, but there are so many other things to be fixed that I have just waited and documented new additions as they popped up. Let me know what you think. --|Uncle Milty | talk| 19:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
The admin who carried-out the deletion has been notified of my tracking page. Thanks. --|Uncle Milty | talk| 22:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Hey TPH. What's up with this edit? GamerPro64 (talk) 00:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
What about the bottom of the review? GamerPro64 (talk) 00:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Alright. Just wanting to know. As you were.GamerPro64 (talk) 00:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Your AFD speedy close
You mean apart from clearly stating my reasons for reopening, and the fact that another delete comment had been made in the meantime? I must request that you overturn your action as premature in an ongoing discussion: if not, I shall take this to WP:DRV. Physchim62(talk) 01:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
CSD Newman
I tend to agree, but CSD had been tried and declined previously, so I went AfD. Your thoughts at the AfD would be welcome. GregJackPBoomer! 02:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I noticed your recent edit to Tokyo Mew Mew, and while the edit itself was good, I thought that your edit summary was rude. Perhaps you meant that as humor, but regardless, I think it was out of line. I don't think using all caps, profanity, and tons of exclamation points, as well as telling someone that they fail, is ever justified on Wikipeida. Certainly it isn't appropriate for a minor correction to punctuation. Even if you thought the comment was humorous or ironic, please consider that the person who you are correcting could be offended by it (if I had been the person who had written that sentence, I know I would have been offended). I ask that you please try not to use edit summaries like that in the future. Calathan (talk) 03:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Yup, I second Calathan's comments. Please keep your edit comments professional and mature. Thanks. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I assumed that blending Wikipedia and non-Wikipedia sources would be acceptable. As the article is under construction, I would hope that the dominant sources will end up being non-Wikipedia sources. As an example of where I hope to go here, see Play Something Sweet (Brickyard Blues), where I have referenced both a Wikipedia and a non-Wikipedia source for the chart position of the version of the song by Three Dog Night. Hope all of this seems reasonable.
I have seen that you have simply deleted all of the references, without seeing why they are being used in context, or appreciating that the article is under construction. Referring to someone as "Hey stupid" indicates that you have absolutely no business editing Wikipedia, and reflects more on your own intelligence than mine. Please provide me with the authority that strictly prohibits the use of Wikpedia articles as sources. I am certain that you have the time to do this in your big smart life. I notice that this is not the first time you have been criticised for your arrogance. Maybe it's time for you to take yourself out of the game, or be taken out through objections of others. I have a Ph.D., but am obviously not as intelligent as you--right? We are supposed to be encouraging contributions to Wikipedia and your attitudes in that regard are simply not needed in an editing role.
Um, yeah, TPH, what's up with some of those edit summaries lately? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
All the stupidity I have to deal with daily on this wiki. People who say "keep but needs more sources" but make no attempt to provide it; people who fail at basic grammar; people who use OTHER WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES as references within the same; et cetera. But either way I still like the project too much to leave it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 16:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
C'mon now! You just can't use an unreferenced Wikipedia article as a reference. D'oh! It is stupid to think otherwise. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Mr. Hammer, I think your otters screwed up again with this nom. If I slapped them with a trout, would they eat it? LOL. Bearian (talk) 20:08, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
PROD tag
Hi TPH. I don't know what happened with A Matter of Time (Mike Posner album), but I have removed the prod tag. It was legitimately removed, so shouldn't have been readded, although it looks like there was a bit of crazyness in the edit history. It should probably be taken to AfD if you still think it should be deleted - but I'm sure you already know that as it looked like you may have started to do it already :) The same with One Foot Out the Door, although it wasn't you that readded the tag. Dana boomer (talk) 01:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, it looks like everything is good now, with both articles being nominated for deletion. Dana boomer (talk) 01:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
House episodes
Have you discussed removing articles on House episodes? Cresix (talk) 04:12, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I have all the episodes on my watchlist and have removed all unsourced trivia (except for a few references to music in some episodes). I'm in the process of reading the page you linked. I disagree with what you are doing, although you may very well be editing within Wikipedia policies. A bit of discussion would have been the courteous thing to do. Cresix (talk) 04:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
BTW, some of the articles do have sourced information that is not part of the plot summary. I trust you will be able to exercise a bit of restraint on those articles. Cresix (talk) 04:20, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm giving this some consideration. One point that I would ask you to consider is that articles pertaining to unrelated TV shows that are loaded with trivia and "personal essays" have no bearing on articles about other TV shows. I've made my opinion clear, so I'll not belabor this point. Am I to assume that this self-appointed mission you're on will be applied to every TV episode on every TV show that you encounter (excepting those that have a bit of sourcing)? Or is it just certain TV episodes that you target? And for those that remain after your wide path of deletion is complete, will the plot summaries be removed because they have not sourcing? Cresix (talk) 04:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I have never said otherwise about "precedent". As I said, you may very well be editing within Wikipedia policies, although you approach (in my opinion) leaves something a lot to be desired. You failed to answer even one of my questions above. That's your choice, of course. But it would be the courteous thing to do. Cresix (talk) 04:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree with Cresix here - I think the least you could have done is announce your plans to wholesale remove/redirect so many articles before doing so. This kind of unilateral action is rude and inconsiderate to other editors, and is so massive that there should have been discussion. This isn't a one-man show - it's a collaborative environment, and there are no hard and fast rules here that required you to take such drastic action without even attempting to get consensus. Tvoz/talk 06:39, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
And regarding the guideline, did you read the section WP:EPISODE#Dealing with problem articles? Did you tag articles with the notability tag first and allow for discussion by the editors who worked on the articles? I see nothing in WP:EPISODE that requires action in the way that the policyWP:BLP does, for example. So I think you've acted in a rash and rather discourteous manner here and should revert your redirects and instead post your objections in a way that engenders discussion, and perhaps improvement, of these articles which represent a great deal of work by many editors. Tvoz/talk 06:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
What are you doing, I contributed heavily to those pages. they were previously marked for citation and sources, I provided sources to most of the info on those episode pages. Like the above editors said, this is a collaborative process.--Theo10011 (talk) 15:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
"Collaborative process"? "Discussion"? Obviously not ever given a moment's thought. Not even considered important. Cresix (talk) 15:34, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Almost all of the CSI-series episodes had been tagged for notability and/or sources for as far back as 2007 and 2008, so I saw no problem there. The House episodes may have a couple sources here and there, but most of them are unreliable sources like TV.com or IMDb. What I want to know is what we gain from keeping unsourced articles consisting entirely of plot summary and trivia. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:07, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Regardless of the answer to "what do we have to gain", your tactic here has been entirely inappropriate. Wikipedia in general certainly doesn't have anything to gain by such behavior. You don't seem to have understood that blindly following a guideline and ignoring everything and everyone else is not the way things are done here. Considering how long you have been around, I'm more than a little surprised at your behavior. Regardless of how these disputes turn out, I hope the one good thing to come out of this is that you have learned something about common courtesy and the process of discussion on Wikipedia. Cresix (talk) 18:50, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
First, the issue is the lack of sources than the quality of sources, Tv.com has been used as a source for many TV related articles,if you're issue is with the sources then you could have tagged them instead of deleting everything. Those sources are for everything from Medical facts to songs used in an episode, as trivial as you may consider that, the episode or the show itself would also be deemed trivial in that light. Your issue seems to be with the nature of the pages itself, why don't you start with the countless pages on Anime and games first, they are almost on the same level of notability. All I know is that a large number of editors contributed to it over a period of years, you can't undo all that in one instant. If your issue is with the notability of these episode pages itself then please take it up at the appropriate place.--Theo10011 (talk) 19:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Maybe, but I still think that other editors can cite other "reliable" sources for some of the info on those pages, whether we should have that chance or not is what the above discussion is about.--Theo10011 (talk) 19:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Further House episodes Discussion
I'm not here to ask about why, or even to oppose you in this matter. In fact, going off of what I've seen everywhere else (such as Monk and Psych), I have to agree with you. However, I don't really agree with Wikipedia's policy on this. Is there somewhere this can/is being discussed? Thank you. Kevinbrogers (talk) 06:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Lake Lobake National Park
Hi. In future if you come across a duplicate article please have the sense to redirect/merge one into the other. AFD is for encyclopedic subjects and content which you think are unencylopedic and want deleted. If you truly had wanted this national park article deleted then I wouldn't have removed the AFD tag but as far as I could see it was a redirect case. Anyway, glad you came across it as we've expanded it. Dr.Blofeld 08:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Reason not supplied
You have twice removed links from Sadism and masochism in fiction, which is on my watch list, with an edit summary similar to Removing backlinks to Love Hurts (House) because ""; using TW. Could you make sure to give a reason other than "" please? Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 11:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Please discuss on talk pages
I won't template you, but I'll kindly ask you to discuss changes on article talk pages rather than repeatedly reverting, especially when there is a dispute. Others have pointed out that the guideline you are using does not require you to make all the wholesale removals that you are making in article related to the House TV series immediately. There is some room for discussion. I realize that discussing differences of opinion is not your typical manner of editing and that you don't consider others' opinions as important as yours, but there are policies involved here, including WP:CON, a policy that takes precedence over any guidelines that you have used to justify your massive deletions. Thank you. Cresix (talk) 18:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Triggering a tag in an edit summary does not confirm a policy violation. It sometimes occur with non-vandalized edits, as is the case here. Cresix (talk) 18:11, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Please discuss your concerns on article talk pages so that others can see, not my talk page. There are now numerous editors in this dispute. Cresix (talk) 18:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you didn't see my message immediately above. Please discuss your concerns on article talk pages so that others can see, not my talk page. There are now numerous editors in this dispute. Cresix (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Stop
In the last few minutes, I count multiple abuses of rollback and Twinkle in content disputes. Please don't edit war to redirect an article. Discuss it on the talk page. Keep it up and you'll lose rollback and Twinkle and possibly end up blocked. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:13, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I actually had the screen open to revoke your rollback privileges because of this. Really should have pressed the button. The only thing- and I mean the only thing that stopped me was looking here and seeing HJ didn't do it. The way you used Twinkle to remove the backlinks made life very, very difficult for anyone to follow the bold, revert, discuss cycle and actually revert you, due to the massive number of pages you affected. This is a classic example of doing something that is perhaps right, but doing it the wrong- bull in a china shop- way. Courcelles 18:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
HOUSE
why are you deleting all the House articles? people have already told you to stop! you have to restore all the links to House episode articles and the articles themselves. SuperJew (talk) 21:38, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Disruptive editing practice
It is absolutely unacceptable to restore disputed redirects by characterizing the actions as minor edits, using essentially empty edit summaries suggesting you are reverting vandalism or otherwise nonconstructive edits. It will, for many editors, operate to call your own good faith into question. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
House Navbox Deletion?!
I am the creator of the article Template:Navbox House episodes, I feel I have to ask why you got rid of all links on the page and then complained on the deletion page that it had no links?
I struggled to comprehend the reasoning behind the proposed deletion of the article and your removal of its' content, only to realise that you have done it many times before. Your edits have now turned into vandalism towards the House portal and I feel that if you continue I may need to contact an administrator to block you from Wikipedia editing. Thecheesykidtalk 12:35, 19 September 2010 (GMT)
How is it that you justified the removal of over 100 articles from the House portal, a portal that was, by the way, in constant improvement? If they did not have proper sources then put the unsourced template in the article, or find the sources... surely their deletion is worse than having the article unsourced?
Sorry little miscomprehension there, I was under the impression that you had deleted everything and created redirects in their place... but why would you redirect everything? Even if those articles were unsourced... surely... an unsourced template?
So across the entirety of the internet, you believed that there was not one source reliable enough to sustain the information contained within the articles?
"Most episodes are just that way — there's nothing you can say about them."
I'm sorry... what?! These articles had content... and if they weren't sustainable content... then delete the unsustainable content... or... put a tag that it has unsourced information within it... I really don't feel as if it is necessary to redirect all articles...
Could we perhaps come to an agreement that the articles should return to their previous state and we can collectively try to improve them? Thecheesykidtalk 01:04, 19 September 2010 (GMT)
Can we have our articles back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crystalfiji (talk • contribs) 00:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay... I'm going to undo all of the redirects and the House wikipedia team (lol) are going to source the articles for you... how's that? If, within a few weeks, the articles are still not quite as perfect as you want them to be, then by all means, do what you want to them.
Thank you very much for your understanding. Thecheesykidtalk 01:23, 19 September 2010 (GMT)
Actually, I personally would amend Thecheesykid's comment as follows: "If, within a few months, the articles are completely unsourced, then be courteous enough to discuss before going on a deletion rampage". Cresix (talk) 01:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for alerting me to that "T.U.F.F. Puppy" thingie. There's now a stub article at the link, to which I say "thank goodness." Way too much "kiddie wiki" being drawn to that title beforehand. :) Enjoy the rest of your weekend! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:18, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
well sry again
i didnt see this advice. sry i made this mistake, and ur otters are cute >.< :D--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 19:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Concerns
TenPoundHammer, it would seem that multiple editors are expressing concerns about your recent editing practices. I would like to add my voice here as well. For example, you created an AfD on an article that just passed a few months earlier as a "Keep", and you recently resorted to making comments by putting them in very large font.[67] These kinds of things can be considered disruptive, so perhaps it's time to take a break for a bit? --Elonka 19:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
I agree. First we have all the deletions with no discussion (until two admins got involved) despite concerns expressed by multiple editors. Now we have the yelling; actually it should be described as screaming to the top of your lungs. I think you need to stay away from disputes for a while. Cresix (talk) 20:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Have we all gone stupid or something? I mean, blindly stating that a webcomic's notable because it won some ticky tacky award, without a SINGLE reliable secondary source in sight? Are we all turning into Kmweber clones?! Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 01:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
TPH, do you really not see the real issue here? It's not the AfD issue. It's your screaming temper tantrum in your comments. Does that not seem inappropriate to you??? Cresix (talk) 01:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Being civil hasn't been any more effective, so what do I lose if I scream? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 01:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Do you really think it's all about you? Once again, I'm quite astonished that I have to say this to someone who has edited as long as you have. I think you need to review WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF, and WP:NPA. I'm not commenting any more in this section; I really don't think I need to stir up your temper any more than it already is. Cresix (talk) 01:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
TenPoundHammer, this comment is uncivil,[68] and you should know better. Please re-think your attitude here, before things escalate further. You've been on Wikipedia a long time, do you really think personal attacks are the way to get your point across? Wikipedia is a collaborative environment. If you hold an opinion that is different from consensus, the proper thing to do is to stand down and bow to the will of the community, not to escalate and scream that everyone else is wrong. If you feel that guidelines are not being adhered to, then maybe the consensus is showing that the guidelines need to be changed. --Elonka 01:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Bubbling Under
I've just ordered a copy of the book you've mentioned to me, along with copies of his latest Country Songs and Adult Songs - I'll see if they really are as comprehensive and reliable as Eric444 claims; but even if they are, I think it'll still be hard for people to use them as a source b/c if your sourcing something by book don't you need the actual page number that the information is on? If so, that would mean people'd actually need a copy of the book. Nowyouseemetalk2me 21:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
These two contributions from AlphaJP (talk·contribs): [69], [70], might indicate why he believes he doesn't need his talk page. He has also already been advised that user talk pages are generally not deleted. —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
hi TPH - i undid an edit you made on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emit_Bloch citing it for notability because there were so many pages that seemed comprised of less notable material amongst emit's contemporaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_T._Pearson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Sartain) and because Emit is getting so much airplay and critial acclaim right now and has a had a career spanning 15 years with attachment to many other notable artists. i hope we can discuss this amicable before any further action is taken - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.59.82 (talk) 00:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Douchey McNitpick
Thanks for thepetname. Maybe next time I'll do it the TenPoundHammer way and delete the entire article. Eric444 (talk) 00:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. It looks like you're nominating pages you created for deletion, which is quite odd IMO since you're a experienced editor. Could you enlighten me as to why you're doing it? Netalarmtalk 04:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
TPH- I have again undone your citation of notbility for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emit_Bloch - although i am aware it does not meet the most stringent criteria here, it ranks above the vast majority of musician related reference on wikipedia. With a 15 year history that has touched on the careers of many other cited artists, chart positions, extensive radio play, 5 years on a major label and 6 releases, this article should not be cited for deletion or plagued with notability requirements. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirut Divad (talk • contribs) 08:16, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Civility in edit summaries
Hi TPH - Just wanted to mention, I can't help feeling that a number of your edit summaries contain comments aimed at other editors that are fairly uncivil. this and this and this are just not necessary, regardless of the merit of the edits involved. I realise that none of these are aimed at me so you might wonder why I'm getting involved, but I've noticed an enormous number of this sort of thing from you on articles that I watch or work on, and so I feel it's fair to point it out. I'm sure you don't mean to be rude, and just get frustrated at poor editing, but in my view it's going too far and it ought to be toned down. Thanks! --Korruski (talk) 11:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
It is clearly promotional, the album has no note at all. Issue arose at the BLPN and I had a look and there has clearly been promotional additions to the person and his music, multiple articles would perhaps make one article of actual noteworthy informative value, there are multiple articles in that persons promotion at wikipedia that should be merged, mostly there is no one reading them anyway (because they are not noteworthy) a few bots and wikipedia editors. Off2riorob (talk) 19:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Way to dodge the question. There's a long standing precedent that Allmusic is clearly a reliable source and can be used in articles. What's your beef with it? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
All I am bothered about is that the album is not notable in any way. Is that to difficult to understand? Go ahead show me how notable the album is? You say it is notable because it has this fantastic review, to me that means zilch as regards noteworthiness. I saw it and it was screaming at me, not notable album, review or no review it is not notable, whatever, I have done my job as an editor and on seeing it I nominated it for deletion. Off2riorob (talk) 19:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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Re: Brett Beavers
I should be thanking you, this is the second time I've used your list to start an article. Take care, J04n(talk page) 07:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Apologies
TPH, I apologize for ignoring you about the reference thing. You're right, I have to do that. A lot of the songs I make articles for I memorize most of the info. But still, I have to add the source. If I need any help finding another version of a certain song, I'll drop you note. Thanks. David829 (talk) 13:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Canadian Country Albums
Unfortunately, no, I haven't been able to find an archive. I've alreadystartedremoving them and you can go ahead and kill any more that you come across. Apparently, nobody cares about Canadian country music.
Also, when you replace the Billboard Canadian Country Singles chart with asterisks, like you did to The Wilkinsons, can you make sure to get the songs with dashes as well? If we don't have an archive, we can't prove that a song didn't chart any better than we can prove that a song did. Eric444 (talk) 01:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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Down syndrome FAR
I'll have a look over the weekend, but, contrary to what WikiSense would have you believe, I am not a primary contributor to the article. Ninety per cent of those edits were reversions of vandalism :) I also suggest you contact NCurse (talk·contribs) of the Medical genetics task force. He's been quite busy off WP, but may be able to lend a hand.
I really would like to help, but honestly, I don't have the time to do a large project like that at the moment. I'm under a lot of stress right now with school and things. I'm surprised I'm even on right now as I type. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 20:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
When closing RFD discussions please place the top template below the heading (this is the opposite of the procedure for AFD closures). I have fixed this close. Bridgeplayer (talk) 21:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
References
TPH, getting back to you, can you show me how to add a link to the actuall song. I didn't think it would be this hard. It's sort of like writing a term paper isn't it. Eventually I'll get it.
Thanks. David829 (talk) 19:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: Oak Ridge Boys
That is not what I asked you. I did not say the fansite was a reliable source. I am trying to figure out if some user made a mistake by posting that the single did not chart. I have no idea what source you personally use to figure out the charting. I do not have access to such sources.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 20:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Removing backlinks
How in the world do I do this correctly? I was trying to remove the links to the Mike Posner song "Please Don't Go" on his album 31 Minutes to Takeoff. When the I clicked the "unlink" tab, I un-clicked all of the links except for the song, but when it finished, it removed all the links to the album, and not the song. I'm very confuzzled... EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 21:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. But how do I know that won't happen again the next time I use it? I tell ya, I've had this Twinkle app for maybe a year, and I still don't understand how it all works. Especially the removing backlinks. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 21:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, okay. Thanks again for your help. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 21:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
References
Thanks again, TPH. You've been helpful. David829 (talk) 19:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Ohh okeydokey. In your essay, the very last sentence is expand it yourself...however I know absolutely nothing about him or his music. And I'm not familiar with Shenandoah either. I just happened to come across him and saw it needed some love. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 23:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
The Shake discussion
Thanks so much for your feedback (and the extra edits). I hadn't intended to appear lazy; but not being savvy about the AfD process, I opted to quickly illustrate just a few of the "markups" needed while the article's "future" was in limbo or jeopardy (plus, my intention was to double-check the original info against some Aussie Billboard- and Variety-style sources, as time permitted this evening, in case there were different USA and UK release dates & record labels).
Also, Shirt58's helpful comment regarding the Australian pop charts link had just appeared as I was leaving for work this morning, and I had to leave the article for discussion with my strike-thru edits still there. (I was initially inspired by your nifty strike-thru's on your "Pages I created" Userpage.)
Was hoping that User:Playboy_rich (initial author) might respond to your AfD note & put in some of the effort, but now I see his User_talk track record isn't exactly stellar! Was glad to see that mind-numbingly long music-video "blow by blow" narrative go away.
Best regards to you & the otters! DennisDallas (talk) 00:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks - Reba
thanks for fixed the reba all the women i am page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coderebavids (talk • contribs) 09:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: List of Number One country hits
You respond to this, I'll go fix them all. —Gendralman (talk) 22:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
It would probably be better if you did it. Thanks for the help. —Gendralman (talk) 00:29, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Wtf?!
HOLY &#*$ - how in the world did he make those number one pages so fast? I don't even see any sandbox edits in his contributions! I'm not complaining though, thank god for him! haha. I'm not sure what was up with that RPM week I couldn't see, no matter how I searched for it it would just skip over Feb 27 - I'll work on it some more later. Nowyouseemetalk2me 02:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Hell!!! Reba even comfirmed it, so stop frickin changing it,youre beginning to piss me the hell off!!!!!!!!!!!!!, if ur referring to what reba said on facebook, it was a mistake she made, she makes mistakes ALL THE TIME, just like how she calls turn on the radio - turn on YOUR radio, she probably mixed it up with the CMA Awards, Now, for the last time, STOP CHANGING IT AND DONT CHANGE IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi TPH, I was wondering whether it would be worth renominating XYZ (band) for deletion again. Without having to repeat myself, see my comments on a similar AFD here Telephone Secrets. The result to "keep" was flawed. I don't have enough experience on wikipedia though to judge whether the AFD for it should be reopened. 10:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulHammond2 (talk • contribs)
Hello TenPoundHammer. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Karsin(novel), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not really vandalism or a hoax - which I take to mean intent to deceive or damage the encyclopedia. I think the hopeful lad probably has written or thinks he's going to write a book. Let the AfD take care of it. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 15:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to WP:DTTR you - I was using a helpful script, but if I'd seen who it was I wouldn't have sent a form message. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 15:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Hank Smith (singer)
I haven't been able to find anything that says one way or the other. Thanks for creating an article about him. Eric444 (talk) 12:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Invitation to comment: Formatting changes to WP:DISCOGSTYLE.
Hello. I'm not sure how much you know or care about the formatting changes brewing for discogs, but as you edit a lot of music-related articles I'd like to invite you and your otters to drop a word or two at the link shown at the bottom of my "brief" summary.
Quick summary: Over at the Talk page for WP:WikiProject Discographies/style, there's been quite a bit of (at times tedious and technical) discussion about the formatting of discographies. Although WikiProject Discographies/style hopes to be part of the Manual of Style some day, it does not, currently, conform to WP:ACCESS, itself a part of the MoS. This is a problem because articles which conform to the WikiProject Discographies/style ought not be acceptable for promotion to FA or FL status, since they don't conform to the MoS.
After much discussion at Accessibility issues, followed by what was meant to be a conclusion at Time to update, we would be ready to actively address the problem, with discographies eventually being reformatted to appear as currently shown here (already changed from its earlier form). Column order and formatting would be noticeably changed, chart headings would typically be bigger, a few other differences in the coding would be made.
The only hold-up (as far as we know) is lack of wider consensus; I think too few people have participated and I'd like to see more editors register their opinion (be it support or criticism) before we move ahead with a rather significant change. (At the very least, you may consider this fair warning.) Your comment is welcome at Are we ready to apply this updated guideline?. Thanks. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
No interest? No time? Too long? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
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Did you happen to notice this? I don't even know what to say about it, and what creeps me out the most, is that it's the users only contribution. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 20:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.
For posting a oversight request publicly on WP:ANI – one of the most public noticeboards on WP.
(from the top of the ANI page) To request permanent deletion of sensitive personal information, see requests for oversight. DO NOT make such requests here; reports here are visible to everyone.
Next time, think before posting something that needs oversight publicly on-wiki; email an oversighter or email [email protected]; contrary to popular belief, they are very fast in handling oversight requests. Regards, –MuZemike 14:47, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stealing Angels
This is clearly going to be kept, but I was closing a different AfD which you started and saw
this. Now given that #48 in the country charts is notable but 50-something in the main charts isn't, I'm wondering where the notability cut off line for low chart positions actually is? (whilst this is slightly tongue-in-cheek, it does raise a point for when a release has nothing but a low chart position to prove notability). Black Kite (t)(c) 12:37, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
User article copies
Thanks for the note. If they were mere sandboxes, then I would say they're ok; but when they start trying to turn them into pseudo-articles and even cross-namespace linking them from the mainspace, I agree that's a problem. –xenotalk 20:25, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
DRV
Just so you know I didn't intentionally keep you out of the loop here; I just didn't think of notifying you, even though it's pretty obvious. Of course, you ended up !voting "my way" anyway, but nonetheless, it probably would have been a good show to give you the heads up. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:35, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
On 23 October 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bill Rice, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I just wanted to get your opinion on this edit, 1. I wanted to know if you believe http://www.roughstock.com/ is a site is a "non-professional review site", as the editor has called it such. Roughstock doesn't have a wikipedia page, but it has been widely used in many Country music related articles, mainly for their reviews. Care to share your thoughts? Thanks. GaBe19 03:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
New discography formatting
Have you seen the new formatting that is now in effect for all discographies on Wikipedia, according to the sample under WP:DISCOGSTYLE? Is this something we should start adhering to right now or can it be held off? Let me know. Thanks. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 03:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: Megatokyo
At casual glance, reference #s: 5, 8, 9, 13, 68, 77, 78, 79, 81, 85. Keep in mind also that (minus the plot summary etc.) it's a relatively short FA. --Cybercobra(talk) 23:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi TenPoundHammer! --
You recently made a revision to an article I wrote re: Rick DePiro -- I APPRECIATE your concern but I also wanted to explain the reason for the "undo" (Undid revision 392908363 by TenPoundHammer (talk)) (undo) )
--Mr. DePiro lived half his life in the Buffalo NY area and draws from that fan base considerably -- A large portion of his 2011 Tour in Canada in because of his affiliation from Buffalo-Niagra. Also, he got his main Professional start in Cleveland Ohio with a couple of significant happenings INCLUDING the Cleveland Indians AND his Record Contract with Cosmic Records -- Because the Cleveland Portal AND People from Ohio are BOTH interested in including his article in their articles about their City and State due to his contributions (see his discussion page) and theyre about to RATE it individually, I feel it is IMPERATIVE to leave those references in.
As far as some of the others, ESPECIALLY Stadium Organists, Baseball people, American singer -songwriters and American Pianists, these are COMPLETELY different categories with DIFFERENT lists of people than the others like "Country singer-songwriters. He is a known singer-songwriter in BOTH and one of only 9 Stadium Organists in that entire category.
PLEASE dont take those references away IF you're ok with leaving them . The other two, American Jazz pianists and American Jazz organists can be eliminated, Which I have now done! -- he is in the list of jazz organists and pianists -- but I fear that the removal of the others would really hurt his article especially since NONE of these is actually redundant.
PLEASE understand that I APPRECIATE you taking your valuable time and skill to even care about my article -- I REALLY do!! I just figured I should explain my reasoning in hopes you'll kindly understand!
All the best and PLEASE know again , Im grateful! --A&RBoss (talk) 02:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi TPH. Could you please give User:Daniel Benfield a heads-up about the AfD, since most of that article is his work? Thanks. JTRH (talk) 03:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
H.W.
Hi, I happen to have noticed your recent posting.
My exposure to HW has been somewhat limited, but it definitely was not a pleasant, mutually beneficial experience.
Good luck with your current endeavour, Varlaam (talk) 19:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Silvermoonn Drive-in deletion
Concerning the deletion of Silvermoon Drive-in, the first notification I recieved said "You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the -dated prod- notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.". I removed the banner and explained doing so, then recieved a second notification which said "You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article." Which of these directions should I follow? If there is no other discussion, besides mine, how long should I wait before doing so? Or is the -dated prod- something besides the banner? Thanks :) Michael1115 (talk) 20:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. Michael1115 (talk) 20:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Message I left to you on HW talk page.
TPH, I don't know the history here, but you left several comments in quick succession, partly answering your original question but then complaing about HW not talking to you even though it had been less then 8 minutes since your first comment (and at some stage complaing to ANI). I would be a bit miffed if someone complains about me not talking to them after only 8 minutes too. Also please remember HW is entitled to remove whatever comments they want from their talk page. It's considered a sign they read it. You shouldn't edit war over any comments someone removes from their talk page. In this particular case it appears HW has chosen not to communicate further on this matter. For the matter of not communicating, I would let it be in this case given the circumstances. And any issues on the article are best dealt with in the article talk page. So I would drop this specific discussion. If you have wider issues, regardless of what mistakes HW may make, I would also suggest you consider whether there may be a better way to approach this in future. Nil Einne (talk) 20:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Sigh....
TPH, much as I regard your content work as excellent, you need to calm down. I was watching the kerfuffle about the Tears, Lies and Alibis article with a certain amount of bemusement. I came across it on ANI and saw that you linked to the metacritic page for the album. But rather than put your hands up and admit that you might have got it wrong regarding the albums notability (by which I mean that the deletion rationale of "Article is a clear permanent-stub, no sources, no notability. Label doesn't have an article, no reviews or anything were found" was way off beam), you decided that it was all HWs fault, even going as far as asking SilverSeren to have a word. Chill out will ya. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 21:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Album reviews
I wasn't aware that the infobox parameters had lost the reviews as I generally cut n paste it from another article rather than the template page, so cheers for letting me know. I got to admit, I almost didn't believe you at first til I hunted out the discussions. Someone's gonna be busy moving all the reviews out of featured article infoboxes.... Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 09:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
So why do you hate drive-ins so much?
Have a bad experience at a drive-in as a kid or something?
Seriously, I was going to nominate a few myself last week... all the drive-in articles are the same: If the articles are kept, someone should create a template for it, something like: {{drive-in|theatername= ABC Drive_in|opened=1937|renovated=1998|screens=1|one of only=10|instateof=fl}} to make drive-in article creation easier. And the newspaper articles cited are all the same: "The ABC Drive-in harkens back to the era of ___. It was opened in 19XX. It was renovated in 19XX. It has a spaceship shaped ticket booth, consession stand with neon lights, and/or a playground." The articles all need to go... VictorianMutant(Talk) 18:46, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't hate them, they just don't seem to meet WP:GNG as you pointed out. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello, TenPoundHammer … Just a ping to let you know that I'm still around, even though we have not encountered each other for a while … as a matter of fact, I stumbled across you in an archived WP:AfD from 2007. :-)
Thanks, and thanks for the heads-up on MOS:POUND. Eric444 (talk) 06:55, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Miranda Lambert self-released album
...Allmusic mentions it in her bio. It says, and I quote, "In 2001, with financial help from her father, Miranda Lambert released an independent CD, Miranda Lambert." EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 15:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Chris Stapleton wikipedia
I work with the Jompson Brothers, so anything that I post is accurate. Please do not delete my additions. Thank you.
I work with a keyboard and mouse, so anything that I post is infallible. Please do not revert my edits for any reason whatsoever. Thank you. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 19:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Personnel Sections
Hmmm... this edit is very civil of you isn't it? I understand your comment about posting the composers in the personnel section being "redundant", since your comment on my talk page, but I just find it funny that you say that in your edit summary, more than a week after I posted the personnel section on Cowboy's Back in Town. I do plan on going back to all of the pages I posted the personnel sections on and removing the composers in them, but I surely don't appreciate the rudeness. GaBe19 02:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Alright, I just wanted to clear this up :). GaBe19 02:55, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Michigan Dogman
On 31 October 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Michigan Dogman, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
On permission from Cirt I have restored the article and reclosed the AFD as "no consensus with leave to speedy renominate". I did this because it became apparent that User:Truebobjohnson originally attempted to nominate this article because he thought the subject was a different "Yuri Rutman". If you decide to renominate then I suggest that you keep an eye on the afd (and so will I) and remove any comment suggesting that he is anybody else besides the person described in the article per WP:BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
The article Joe Diffie you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Joe Diffie for things which need to be addressed. Aaronnorth (T/C) 06:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I've declined your PROD on Hull's Drive In based on sources I found (as per WP:BEFORE) on the theater in the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and MSNBC. They weren't in the article as you PROD'd it, but were on the first page of Gnews results. I've added the latter two sources and removed the less reliable references. No complaints if you'd like to take this to AfD, but there's enough available on this theater that it isn't an obvious notability PROD to me. Cheers! --j⚛e deckertalk 05:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
uncivil history with hullabaloo wolfwitz
if you have a problem with a user, don't go to their talk page and call them names (such as douche which you have done over a few days), if they want you to leave them alone leave them, you seem to have a history with hullabaloo going back to october the 28th, I suggest you leave hullabaloo alone--Lerdthenerd (talk) 20:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree, there are other ways to address your issues with HW besides WP:3RR on his talk page out of all things. [71][72][73]Morbidthoughts (talk) 21:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
What do you think of this so far? After I have completed the "renovations", think it could make FL? I think it's time country music discographies get back on that list. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 22:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Major General's Song
I asked you to discuss this on the article's talk page first, please. I object to what you are doing I am willing to work with you, but WP:OVERLINK does not justify wholesale deletion of these links. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know that Robertson Bullies EP was not a candidate for WP:CSD#A9 as it did not meet both of the requirements (An article about a musical recording that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant and where the artist's article does not exist) Whilst it did not state the significance of the recording, there is a band article. I would suggest PROD/AFD/Redirect/Improve. Cheers! Stephen!Coming... 10:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I was given a notice calling for the deletion of the article The Biting Pear of Salamanca. However, I only made it as a redirect page to the image's creator's page. The user you want to notify--the one who turned it into an article on its own according to the history list--is Maizesmagikarp. Just thought you should know. --DanMat6288 (talk) 22:47, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
David Sidoni
Bah, I completely forgot about Mad Libs (mainly because it was on for about three weeks and very forgettable), I will change my vote. Nate•(chatter) 09:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Okay
Admittedly, I didn't check the citations. It just "looked" like a good article....Thanks very much for the review and reply.--occono (talk) 10:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Suicide, the Beatles song
It does exist, there's a piece of it from the the Let It Be sessions; here. Demos aren't worthy of articles though, though if there's an article for unreleased Beatles songs in general, it may be worth a redirect there. Tarc (talk) 13:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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How come you never responded back to my message I sent you a week ago?... ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 03:16, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh ok. I don't think it's something that needs to be done right away, but when it begins to appear on more discographies in artists of other music genres, I think that's when it needs to be added I guess =/ Yeah, I can't stand it either, it truly is ugly, but whatever. I'm not doing anything to any discographies now. Thanks for the reply. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 20:05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
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Yes! Thank you so much for nominating it for me! ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 06:00, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Wholesale deletion of 'other cover versions' and 'appearances in popular culture' of "The Rose"
The Rose (song) Why delete everything in one go? I think this is overreach...it's a song not an article on econometrics. OK every article no matter the subject matter should have standards. Maybe it would be better to write something like the song has been covered numerous times, and mention a few of the more noteworthy examples. I think it noteworthy that the song has been covered so many times. It indicates its popularity over and above its chart success. So just to delete it all in one shot, really?--Nyctc7 (talk) 18:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
RfC
Hi TPH. I don't log in very often these days-- have been busy on another project-- so I just got your notice on the RfC. I'll see if I can piece together some diffs & such. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 18:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Be careful, I will report you to the administrators for over-stepping boundaries. --Discographer (talk) 19:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
With the exception of badly written articles about them here on Wikipedia, they all charted as hit singles on the charts, making them notable. Best, --Discographer (talk) 20:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes. Let us get back to that. Best, --Discographer (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Cottonwood Mall Anchor Stores
I was wondering, is there any particular reason why you removed the list of anchor stores from Cottonwood Mall (Albuquerque, New Mexico)? I personally think this is an important section and provides a nice history on who occupied the stores. I noticed that the article for Albuquerque's other indoor mall, Coronado Center, still has a list of anchor stores. I don't see why Coronado Center should have it but not Cottonwood Mall. ANDROS1337TALK 17:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Jeopardy! Kids Week
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Shoo, shoo
waves you off your high horse and kindly asks that you stop stroking your e-peen so Wikipedia can actually become an open platform instead of a totalitarian state.* Aveilleux (talk) 12:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Twinkle
My apologies, Mr. Hammer.
I assumed otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maizesmagikarp (talk • contribs) 23:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Yep
I know. I think it does count toward notability and I think this specific award (black and white) is more relevant than some of the others (which are really quite narrow in some cases). But I realize I'm running uphill here and I hope my language in my !vote made that clear. Hobit (talk) 03:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Brandy Norwood
a user Noboyo is removing sourced content from globally respected outlets pertaining the car accident and breach lawsuit. please seek process to suspend this user and undo edits.
also consider locking norwoods page.
this user is repeatedly vandalizing pages of african american singers (view its talk page)
I’m actually pretty shocked to read that this unsigned user calls me a „hacker.“ I’ve been a frequent contributer to the Brandy Norwood article ever since its creation – and it was not my intention to delete material. I rather thought this was unessential to her biography. – Noboyo
I trimmed the section back rather than deleting it. Based on history, I suspect the IP is Marc Mysterio or someone related to him. He's a fairly minor Canadian act that tries to use Wikipedia as a promotional vehicle.—Kww(talk) 13:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Halloween Adventure
Hi. Thanks for help, but next time please include specific urls or citations to support your removal of a prod tag. You provided a generic google link with absolutely no indication of notability from reliable sources. All i found were promotional primary sources. I suggest we put back the prod tag. If you disagree, then I will send the page to AfD due to no verifiable notability. --Eclipsed(t) 05:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Proposed userfy and undeletion of article Fire It Up (EP)
Hi, I'd like to request a userfy for the deleted article Fire It Up (EP). The article has been deleted before, but I'm not exactly sure why, considering its an official release by Kid Rock and is included on most official Kid Rock discographies. Its significant for being the first release of the song I Am the Bullgod which was one of Kid Rock's first hits. If you userfy the page for me I'll be sure to add references and sources to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrblinky (talk • contribs) 21:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Done TPH is not an admin so he can't restore it to your userspace but I can. It's here. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I just thought you might like to know how the article from this AfD you participated in is doing. It has been cleaned up and is nearing completion. And it looks good.
By the way, the guy (User:A Radish for Boris) who nominated it for deletion was discovered to be a sock puppet, and has been indefinitely blocked. So I guess the AfD was invalid to begin with.
Thank you for your support. The Transhumanist 05:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I would be happy to be of assistance. But when you say "corroborate the information from the print sources" what specifically would you like me to do?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:27, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
OK, I looked at the good article feedback and saw what needs to be clarified. I will do so forthwith :) --Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Uncontested CfDs
Yes, if not contested action can be taken after a week. However this does not always happen without some support. So on the last day, I try to get in and comment for the purpose of cleaning up the backlog when I don't have a reason to object to the proposal. Of course if it is my proposal... Vegaswikian (talk) 23:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Darius Rucker GA review
Hi, sorry I'd already logged off last night when you left your message. I've finished the review (made a few last changes myself) and listed the article as a GA. I left a last comment on the review page. Well done & thanks for the work you put in.--BelovedFreak 12:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Invitation to public disputation
I would like to invite you to make a public disputation of the substance of my essay "What Wikipedia Is" on its talk page. I'm just glad it's getting some notice, since the ideas it contains are important and need to be publicly and openly discussed. Kurt Weber (GoColts!: 16-0 and Super Bowl XLIV Champions) 16:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Thanks for the note on my talk. I'm sure they're on it, but the otters need to remove the AfD template from The Chair (Grand National) and stick that other thing on the talk page. I would do it but not quite sure how to do it / how WP:BOLD to be, and it's important the otters follow through! Cheers, Bigger digger (talk) 21:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
If your point is that an editor shouldn't try to improve an article unless he's prepared to fix every unsourced, badly researched and poorly written item he comes across, then you need to get a life. Yeah, my time's too precious. Yours obviously ain't, though. How long did it take you to trace the edits and waste your time commenting on my page? Find another outlet, champ. Cloonmore (talk) 03:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I totally agree with the deletion of the Usagi Yojimbo template. I feel enough information has been provided to justify a solo article for Miyamoto Usagi. Dwanyewest (talk) 04:14, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
A discussion has begun about whether the article List of shopping malls in Michigan, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.
You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. --Divebombis not British 18:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
RE: Shopping mall lists
I'm holding off on the other lists until a consensus develops on the ones I already AFDed. Plus, I don't want to have to keep track of over eighty AFDs. ----Divebombis not British 14:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Arborland Logo
Why did you remove the Arborland logo from the "Arborland Center" article?Dwight Burdette (talk) 17:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering why you didn't think to contact me and suggest a merger like 1920s in jazz, 1930s in jazz, 1940s in jazz, 1950s in jazz, 1960s in jazz, 1970s in jazz, 1980s in jazz, 1990s in jazz, 2000s in jazz rather than going all out nuke. Surely you can't argue that the pages aren't encyclopedic? Well it practically contains all the info which were in the lists and related, just smartened up. 1926 in jazz and 1979 in jazz are both valid articles, I'm sure eventually the others can be built in the same way. But for now I am happy to merge the ones which are unedited until somebody wants to write about events and do it properly. To the hammer and nail I say eh?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:08, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
This [74][75][76][77] is harassment and you need to knock it the hell off. It's not an appropriate scale of response to some dab links. The lists are 90% done. If you're that upset that they're not finished, you're completely free to delete them all and start over. —Gendralman (talk) 04:28, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
"My Grown-Up Christmas List" article deleted???
Please explain the reason why you deleted this article. It's not only an Amy Grant song on her 1992 "Home For Christmas" album, and it wasn't even originally recorded by her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliv812 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Uhm
This is absolutely ridiculous, and has been reverted. All featured song articles (such as 4 Minutes (Madonna song)) and good song articles (such as You Belong with Me) have equally long introductions, which is what all song articles should be aiming for. Nowyouseemetalk2me 08:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Do you always post such condescending comments on other individuals talk page? I know how to contest a proposed deletion; I'd certainly hope I do, anyway, seeing as I've been an administrator for nearly five and a half years. I remind you of the importance of not biting the newcomers, or in this case, veterans. Secondly, if you researched correctly, you'd see that it's not a new article - Indeed, it's been here for years - And so the use of "hangon" would be a little inappropriate. If you contest it further, it should be taken to AFD, as I see it now has been. Esteffect (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Odd that it's used as an automated template, then. It bites a little to me, mostly the use of "please refrain". Esteffect (talk) 02:13, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, that's what the "keep" votes said. But these aren't sourced. It's just someone sitting at their TV and typing in the shows that come on the air (or "coming soon", with no citations as to how they know it's coming soon). Take a look at what's added over time, you'll see what I mean. Thx for the reply. SpikeJones (talk) 06:57, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi TPH. I see you tagged this G3 (hoax) - exactly what my first impression was too, until I started more methodically going through the references that I began tagging as 'failed verif.' I believe the creator just wrongly named the page and that they intended it to be Blue (Da Ba Dee) for which all the claims are well referenced and factual. It's entirely up to you what you do - if the article deleted it will be a lesson for the creator whose other edits often appear to be far less within our policies.--Kudpung (talk) 00:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I have decline speedy deletion TPH. If you want the article be deleted, just take it to WP:AFD. JJ98 (Talk) 09:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Take it to AfD - you have my absolute support. --Kudpung (talk) 13:32, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
It's not a mistake. You can source the 'Time To Rock' song, it charted in 2002, but I re-directed to the artists per WP:NSONG. Regards, SunCreator(talk) 01:19, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Monk reply
No need to be uncivil. If sources can't be found, or if the sections aren't built, go ahead and go on a deletion rampage. In fact, I'll support it, as I did with a few episodes of Monk a few weeks ago that I know will never be notable enough. I even nominated some for deletion. However, in this case, I think the sections can be built. Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:14, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Don't Want You to Go (Lani Hall song) (2nd nomination)
Hi TPH. I've left you a long-winded reply on the AfD page. Just for the record, I respect you and the work you do here, despite the fact that I think that nomination was a bit of a clunker. And on the topic of that nomination, I just noticed that you essentially called the other !voter an idiot; I'm not going to go all "civility police" on you or anything, but let's try to keep the focus on the song's notability if we can. 28bytes (talk) 05:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
I commented on another nom of yours, but I don't want you to think I'm Hullabalooing you, so if you've got any more noms out there right now, I'll leave them be. Just noticed that edit summary of yours... yikes! 28bytes (talk) 06:12, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
You can technically get in trouble for that; it's disruptive. Just saying. HalfShadow 03:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Years in Jazz
Thanks for the work you did on the AFD issue, however I am not at all satisfied with the result. Instead of the logical result, merging 100 articles into 10 decade articles, there are now 10 additional articles, which lowers the quality of every article involved. The decade articles are a good compromise, but it makes no sense to have individual articles as well. Get back at me. Cosprings (talk) 18:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I am aware you requested deletion of this article back in September. I am currently thinking about re-creating it with the references that I found [78][79][80][81][82][83]. I would take this to deletion review but since only one user voted in the deletion discussion, I am asking you, if I can go ahead and re-create. QuasyBoy 20:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
There is an ongoing debate on the above page about whether to include the top 100 on similar pages. What is your view on this matter?--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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Pipe band project
OK a bit slow in tidying up - viz - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pipe_Bands&action=edit§ion=3 but it will happen - to suggest speedy of a project container category is a bit ripe! - but cheers anyways - I find trying to do a john carter and create a project from scratch is beyond my current focus of attention span - however despite your reminder call will try to fix the group of the project pages soon SatuSuro 23:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea why the author User:Rtkat3 started this one back on 2006 and then pretty much ignored its possibilities for 4 years. What I am myself finding through my google-foo, is that besides this fellow's numerous film and television voice projects, he is also an accomplished stage actor and has received more coverage for THAT than for anything else. I am now expanding and sourcing the BLP, and am exploring the DYK possibilities. More to do.... just thoght to check in. Bst, Schmidt,MICHAEL Q. 07:25, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Dyk for Matt K. Miller
Since you were inspiration for the article's expansion, I have nominated a DYK for the article HERE. Might you have a suggestion for a better hook? Schmidt,MICHAEL Q. 21:12, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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As a contributor to WikiProject: Country Music, your input would be appreciated. Thanks, Seniortrend (talk) 23:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Reception of country music
Well I did have one, granted it was just one word. :) haha Nowyouseemetalk2me 02:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Welding FAR
Hi TPH - Could you please return to your comments at the Welding FAR (review page located at WP:Featured article review/Welding/archive1)? Quite a bit of work has been done on the article, so if you could review the changes and leave an update with your vote, it would be much appreciated. Thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 15:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Completely unsourced bio of a photographer, who does his job. Latest edition of Outdoor Photography contains a list of 40 most influential nature photographers - Matthews isn't there. Size of the article pumped up by unsourced lists.
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Hello! Your submission of This Is Country Music at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey Hammer, I proposed two alternate hooks. Please have a look, and please tell the otters I said hi. Drmies (talk) 04:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Twinkle edit-summary problem
You've got a bunch of changes today with edit-summaries like:
Removing backlinks to Lauren Lipson because "";
The suspense is killin' me man! DMacks (talk) 04:42, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
DYK for This Is Country Music
On 19 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article This Is Country Music, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Brad Paisley released "This Is Country Music" as a single long before the album was to come out, even though it was "bad timing for his label"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I had/have a reliable reference for the canadian country charts, so maybe you need to learn how to read before you delete a chart with a working reference. How dare you just come and delete the chart just like that, it took me a long time to find the suitable references for the album and for you to just delete it like that is very rude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coderebavids (talk • contribs) 01:32, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
The same way how you kept the source for the australian country charts, WHICH IS FROM THE SAME SITE, leave the frickin canadian charts alone!! YOU ARE BECOMING A SERIOUS NUISANCE. Why dont you go mess with someone else's chart because you are really beginning to piss me off.
A stupid user changed all of the titles from 'hits' to 'singles'. Nowyouseemetalk2me 22:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
I think so; talk about being a baby, that guy is outrageous. Nowyouseemetalk2me 23:03, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
RFC courtesy notice - succession boxes
As someone who has taken part in previous discussions regarding the use of succession boxes in articles for songs and albums, I'd like to notify you of a request for comment that is taking place at WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. It would be nice to finally come to a resolution on this. If you have already participated in this RFC or do not wish to participate, then please disregard this notice. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 00:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
shouting edit summary
CHECK YOUR FREAKING LINKS TO MAKE SURE THEY LINK TO THE RIGHT ARTICLE. HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE THIS?!?!?!!??!?!?! CHECK YOUR LINKS!!!!!!!)
I have some pictures I'd like to let you see if you can use from a recent concert in Nashville. Please email me (wikiusername at gmail dot com) to discuss further. Thanks, Valerie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vmdesign (talk • contribs) 20:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Poorly written crap?
I have never liked these sections, and I am glad to see them removed. However, I'm unable to determine how or why you classify them as either "pooly written", or as "crap". (Much less so as "pooly written crap".) Please enlighten me. Pdfpdf (talk) 23:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
1. Improperly made hatnote. You don't use the colon to make them. 2. No sources. 3. "X's song was used in an episode of Y" runs the risk of turning into a sprawling list of other such entries; best to kill this kind of listcruft before it spreads. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 01:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Jolly good. Pdfpdf (talk) 09:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Gary Martin Link Repaired
I repaired the link you removed on the Watership Down TV series page and directed the link to the British Actor for whom did record the narration for Frith's Blessing on the original 1999 TV series soundtrack CD, of which I happen to own this rare title and I make sure that the info I provide on the page is acurate. I hate to post wrong infomation, the only info I post on Wikipedia is true or at least i try to stay as true as possible. I also just mended some damage done by a Wiki vandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David31584 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Gary Martin Link Fixed
Ah I see, yeah as I recall it went streight to the page where several Gary Martin's were listed. Fair enough and that's OK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David31584 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Merry Christmas from the DYK Project. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 18:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Monte Yoho
I almost forgot about that. I'll be moving it to mainspace now. ~EDDY(talk/contribs)~ 16:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Please stop removing Template:Expand
Would you please stop removing/replacing {{Expand}} while the DRV is in progress? [84][85][86][87][88][89][90][91] (plus many others [92]) ...and please stop using this sort of language and hostility [93][94] in your edit summaries. --Tothwolf (talk) 09:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
And then there's a shouty summary at [95], uncivil sarcasm at [96], and getting snarky at ANI, [97]. I don't know what's put you in such a bad mood at the moment, but you need to stop lashing out at people like this. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think your edit summary here was helpful. Aren't we supposed to assume good faith? --Thomprod (talk) 17:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Wildlife
You know, otters, ferrets, the Panther, and other stuff. RichFarmbrough, 19:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC).
DYK
Hi TenPH,
I have a quick question about the DYK you approved for my self-nominated "Coming Home" by Diddy-Dirty Money. its more of an after thought really... If you could take a look at the DYK I've posted directly beneath your approval. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk] 22:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I removed your CSD from this page. Although I am not judging it's notability and you're welcome to tag it with something other than db-hoax, I just wanted to let you know that after a very short search, I found out that not only is this a real writer, but the movie is also real and I was able to verify a few other facts about him. Infact, the writer has won 3 independant awards. I realize how easy it is to tag with TW, but please make sure your tagging correctly.--v/r - TP 02:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi. I have declined your speedies on these. They took enough checking that I don't think they come in the blatant category, and the point of AfD (rather than PROD) was to get more eyes, particularly Australian eyes, on them. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, I really didn't want to have to take this to AN/I, but you really didn't leave me any other options. --Tothwolf (talk) 23:32, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
re: Talkback
Yep, I'll have a look tomorrow. Lugnuts (talk) 20:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
NOMINATION
I am officially nominating TenPoundOtter for a Hug. We all love you. Yinzland (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
A few links needed disambiguation, instead of disambiguating them, you unlinked them?
Checking your contribs, I see there's mountains of this stuff. This is disrupting wikipedia to make a point, so I'm indef-blocking you until can explain this. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 21:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.
I had never been told before that the unlinking was disruptive. Most of the links I removed seemed to be pointing to people who didn't have articles and it looks like I picked up a couple that should've been fixed instead. Please unblock me so I can go back and fix the links; I won't do a mass unlink like this again.
Accept reason:
I've unblocked specifically so you can clean up that edit run. I'll be raising the issue on AN/I, if it hasn't already been. "Nobody ever told me not to" would not ordinarily get you an unblock. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
As the blocking admin, I will not handle the unblock myself, but so far as I am concerned you need to do better than that before unblocking.
After a brief examination of these edits it seems that you did little or no checking at all. For example in this edit to David Dixon Porter, you removed a hatnote link.
Secondly, removing links to "people who didn't have articles" is not the right approach, per WP:REDLINK. Instead, you should check whether intended subject of the link is someone who is likely to be notable.
Thirdly, you removed in rapid succession links to David Porter from here and here and here. A little bit of minimal scrutiny would have shown that all three of those links related to a Member of Parliament, who is automatically notable per WP:POLITICIAN.
So what exactly were you doing? This just looks like blind delinking en masse, with a ridiculously long edit summary "Removing backlinks to David Porter because "CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CHECK YOUR LINKS CH".
I request that you respond to my comments at Talk:2010 in country music. I feel that the edits should be implemented since there was not any refutation of my arguments. For space purposes, I believe additional articles could be created for the higher charting songs. Thank you.--Lost Fugitive (talk) 01:40, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Happy New Year, and all the best to you and yours! (from warm Cuba) Bzuk (talk) 08:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Northern Exposure characters
Just redirect them to List of Northern Exposure characters. They are certainly reasonable search terms, and redirecting them would preserve the edit history in case anyone can make something less plot-ty from them. postdlf (talk) 14:29, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Michael Urbano
Per WP:MUSICBIO#C6, would you like to withdraw the AfD so I can speedy close it? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
an offer....
As your google-foo sometimes breaks down, if you are willing to toss an occasional film title at me to see if I can dig up sources, I'd be more than happy to assist. Really. Best regards and Happy New Year. Schmidt,MICHAEL Q. 02:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Bold
Perhaps removing expand templates is not something to be bold about. I'm perfectly willing to help you replace them individually with better ones, & devise better ones where there appears to be something needed--I have some ideas there. (you in fact suggested something like this at the closing admins talk p.) If you are willing to work with me in this direction, please let me know. Perhaps between us we can avoid continuing this extremely long conflict, because, if you decide to be drastic about removing them without finding replacements, there is almost certainly going to be further proceedings to reverse the result, though not necessarily from me. DGG ( talk ) 16:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Rebecca Cardon
Thanks for the help on that. I have never done this before, so please verify that now everything is in order... I went back and expanded my reasoning, also. 842U (talk) 21:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
problem with signing posts
Regarding this >>>>>>>>>>> SIGN YOUR POSTS ALREADY.
Well Mr. hammer, I would sign my posts but they will not sign. I have used the auto sign function ( --Warrior777 02:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC),) have signed it myself in two other ways( Warrior777 02:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC) & User talk:Warrior777 ), yet it will not sign. Please advise. Though they appear to be working here at least in part, in the articles they do not. Perhaps there was a problem with the server my accounts was on at the time. I have had three user names since signing up as a volunteer to Wikipedia. I rolled one of them back and it still would not sign. One more time >>>>>>> --Warrior777 02:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Re: Swiss charts deletion
I have read the response and I still stand by my vote. I was perfectly aware of the points raised and if anything they more enforce my views that such lists should be deleted. I've added my opinion about postdlf's response and why I believe it doesn't hold against the nomination, why I still think the article should be deleted. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1[talk] 23:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for being big enough not to have a tantrum over this. :-) Bearian (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Template deletion
Helloooo there, not to be a bother, but I just wanted to know if you could possibly list Template:Infobox Hip-Hop Nation and Template:Hip-Hop Nation years for deletion, I'm still confused on how to list them and don't want to mess up. :) Thanks! - GaBe19 21:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
The page created by mine has new layout and I really hope that it will be kept, as I will make further improvement to it.
Have your say here, thank you. I will notice other users joined above AfD, too. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 08:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Portal Vrilissos/Userbox
A note that I have declined your speedy deletion nomination of this page; the rationale given was not a valid CSD rationale. I would suggest taking your opinion to MfD, where this currently sits. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 00:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Again, Trini & Carmen's Mexican Cuisine. It's got multiple references in the media, which is a prima facie claim to some kind of notability; it clearly doesn't pass A7, and was already at AfD. Please try to be more cautious. Ironholds (talk) 00:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing my articles.
Thanks for your help with disruptive edits on Rick Mofina, Passing Parade, etc. Much appreciated.--Dmol (talk) 02:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
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Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordyn Shellhart
The article had been previously relisted only yesterday, I missed that relisting when I deleted it. LFaraone 05:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Cita publicación
All right, thanks for letting me know. I wasn't sure if a misguided template creation would meet the criteria for G2, so I decided to err on the side of caution and go with TfD. --- cymru.lass(hit me up)⁄(background check) 20:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
IAR
Yes I am familiar with WP:IAR, but if you read my explanations for taking the matter to DRV (at DRV) you will see that I believe invoking IAR as a rationale for speedy deletion is always wrong. Again, why I beleive this is detailed at the DRV discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 02:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
RE: If I Were a Boy
The strange is that she confirmed it last week, I do not you, but that is enough time for being covered by any other sources. Maybe tommorrow or on Friday it is released with sources covering it. TbhotchTalk and C. 07:27, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
RE:
Actually, that's about exactly what it is. --ĈÞЯİŒ1ооо 20:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with liking it. I don't care a whole lot for Beyonce, it's because it's a great addition to Wikipedia and provides a lot of info on a well-cover track from B'Day. Try again --ĈÞЯİŒ1ооо 21:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
It's needed to provide adequate coverage on the song is is much more detailed than a lot of GAs. --ĈÞЯİŒ1ооо 21:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Consensus to Merge
Hey TPH, I'm surprised this has never been raised before, but there was consensus to merge Led Zeppelin songs to their albums, see [103]. User:Alcuin without any discussion reverted the merger redirect a month later. Very strange no-one said anything at the time about it. JacksOrion (talk) 07:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Summertime Clothes
There is a whole page worth's of info about Summertime Clothes....Why would you simply re-direct it to the album page?????
Ill source it then. There is valuable info their to Animal Collective fans. Plus if your argument is that It didn't chart that's ridiculous basically none of their other singles did either. --Pastoryam12 (talk) 19:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
You got rid of all their singles......You basically just deleted a bunch of info from Wikipedia.....I'll source everything......... --Pastoryam12 (talk) 19:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
TenPoundHammer, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#TenPoundHammer and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). Stwalkerster [ talk ] 21:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, TenPoundHammer. It seems I have fallen into something that could or could not be a content dispute. I need a neutral third-party, and you may fit that need. Please visit this section of my talk page to see some relevant messages regarding edits at South Park Mexican. Thank you for your time. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me!←at≈:→ 16:46, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure you don't need me to quote policy at you, but you should be aware that re-adding speedy deletion tags that have been legitimately removed on Tiffany the Superstar constitutes disruptive editing. Please stop and make your concerns known in the AfD that is already running. Jenuk1985 | Talk 20:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Please stop re-adding speedy deletion tags from pages where they are legitimately removed. If you still feel Monsters, Inc. 2 warrants deletion, I suggest nominating it via the AfD process. Jenuk1985 | Talk 01:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
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does your keyboard have?! ZabMilenko 08:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of It's Your Song at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Allen3 talk 20:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Done. By the way, I put all of Taylor Swift's singles on my watchlist as well. Eric444 (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
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. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Shenandoah (band) for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Done. Take a look if you would like. Also, I did more editing on Our World and I'm done with the pages unless something crops up somewhere. Only did this because I was going through my g/f's song collection, came here to find T.O.K. songs, and found the mess. =D CycloneGU (talk) 19:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Done TPH is not an admin so he can't restore it to your userspace but I can. It's here. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
