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Sydney Newman

Sydney Newman (April 1, 1917 – October 30, 1997) was a Canadian film and television producer who played a pioneering role in British television and Canadian cinema. During the 1950s and 60s, he held the role of Head of Drama at ABC Weekend TV and later at the BBC. During this time, he created the spy-fi series The Avengers and co-created the science-fiction series Doctor Who. After his return to Canada in 1970, Newman was appointed acting director of the Broadcast Programs Branch for the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission and then head of the National Film Board of Canada. He also occupied senior positions at the Canadian Film Development Corporation and Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as well as acting as an advisor to the Secretary of State. His obituary in The Guardian declared that "for ten brief but glorious years, [he] ... was the most important impresario in Britain", and that his death marked the "laying to rest of a whole philosophy of popular art". (Full article...)

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Finding in the Temple

The Finding in the Temple, also called Christ among the Doctors, the Disputation in the Temple and variations of those names, is an episode in the early life of Jesus depicted in chapter 2 of the Gospel of Luke. It is the only event of the later childhood of Jesus mentioned in a canonical gospel. In the episode, Jesus – at the age of twelve – accompanies Mary, Joseph, and a large group of their relatives and friends to Jerusalem on many pilgrimages. On the day of their return, Jesus remained in the Temple. Mary and Joseph returned home believing he was among their group when he was not. After a day of travel they realised Jesus was missing and returned to Jerusalem, finding him three days later. He was found in the Temple in discussion with the elders, "listening to them and asking them questions". When admonished by Mary, Jesus replied: "How is it that you sought me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?" The Finding in the Temple is frequently shown in art. This representation, titled The Finding of the Saviour in the Temple, is an oil-on-canvas painting produced by William Holman Hunt in 1860. It now hangs in the Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery in Birmingham, England.

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The Importance of Being Earnest is a drawing-room comedy by Oscar Wilde. Premiered on 14 February 1895 in London, it depicts the affairs of two young men about town who lead double lives to evade unwanted social obligations, both assuming the name Ernest to woo two young women. Other characters include the formidable Lady Bracknell, the fussy governess Miss Prism and the benign and scholarly Canon Chasuble. The play, celebrated for its wit and repartee, parodies contemporary dramatic norms and comically satirises late-Victorian manners. The triumphant opening night was followed within weeks by Wilde's downfall and imprisonment for homosexual acts and the closure of the production, and Wilde wrote no more comic or dramatic works. From the early 20th century onwards, the play has been revived frequently and adapted for radio, television, film, operas and musicals. (Full article...)

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The Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) was a NASA space mission aimed at testing a method of planetary defense against near-Earth objects. The target object, Dimorphos, is a 160-meter-long (525-foot) minor-planet moon of the asteroid Didymos. DART was launched on 24 November 2021 and successfully collided with Dimorphos on 26 September 2022 while about 11 million kilometers (6.8 million miles) from Earth. The collision shortened Dimorphos's orbit by 32 minutes and was mostly achieved by the momentum transfer associated with the recoil of the ejected debris, which was larger than the impact. This video is a timelapse of DART's final five and a half minutes before impacting Dimorphos, and was compiled from photographs captured by the Didymos Reconnaissance and Asteroid Camera for Optical navigation (DRACO), the spacecraft's 20-centimeter-aperture (7.9-inch) camera, and transmitted to Earth in real time. The replay is ten times faster than reality, except for the last six images, which are shown at the same rate at which the spacecraft returned them. Both Didymos and Dimorphos are visible at the start of the video, and the final frame shows a patch of Dimorphos's surface 16 meters (51 feet) across. DART's impact occurred during transmission of the final image, resulting in a partial frame.

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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a disabling chronic illness. People with ME/CFS experience profound fatigue that does not go away with rest, sleep issues, and problems with memory or concentration. The hallmark symptom is a worsening of the illness which starts hours to days after minor physical or mental activity, and lasts from hours to several months. The cause of the disease is unknown. ME/CFS often starts after an infection, and many people fit the ME/CFS diagnostic criteria after contracting long COVID. Diagnosis is based on symptoms because no diagnostic test is available. The illness can improve or worsen over time, but full recovery is uncommon. No therapies or medications are approved to treat the condition, and management is aimed at relieving symptoms. About a quarter of those affected are unable to leave their bed or home. People with ME/CFS often face stigma in healthcare settings, and care is complicated by controversies around the cause and treatments of the illness. (Full article...)

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Suffolk Wildlife Trust (SWT) describes itself as the county's "nature charity – the only organisation dedicated wholly to safeguarding Suffolk's wildlife and countryside." It was founded in 1961, and is one of 46 wildlife trusts covering Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The trust manages 3,120 hectares (7,700 acres) of land in 60 nature reserves, most of which are open to the public. The whole or part of nine SWT reserves are Ramsar internationally important wetland sites, thirty-one are Sites of Special Scientific Interest, four are national nature reserves, and ten are Special Protection Areas. One SWT reserve is in Dedham Vale, which is an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB), and seven are in another AONB, Suffolk Coast and Heaths. (Full list...)

Thecacera pennigera

Thecacera pennigera, also known as the winged thecacera, is a species of sea slug in the family Polyceridae. It has a cosmopolitan distribution, being found in temperate waters on either side of the North Atlantic Ocean, in the Mediterranean Sea, around South and West Africa, Brazil, Japan, Korea, Pakistan and more recently in Australia and New Zealand. There is a significant difference in colouring between Atlantic populations and Pacific specimens, however. Thecacera pennigera has a typical adult length between 15 millimetres (0.6 in) and 30 millimetres (1.2 in), featuring a short, wide head with two lateral flaps and two sheathed olfactory organs called rhinophores. The body is wedge shaped, being wide at the front and ending in a slender foot with a lateral keel on either side. The general colour of the body is translucent white and the upper side is covered with orange splotches and small black spots. Like other sea slugs, T. pennigera is a hermaphrodite with internal fertilisation and a mating mechanism whereby pairs of animals exchange packets of sperm. This T. pennigera was photographed in the Mar Piccolo of Taranto, Italy.

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Giant golden mole, type host of H. niekerki
Giant golden mole, type host of H. niekerki

Heptamegacanthus is a genus of acanthocephalans (thorny- or spiny-headed parasitic worms) containing a single species, Heptamegacanthus niekerki. This worm is a parasite of the endangered giant golden mole (example pictured) found only in isolated forests near East London and in the Transkei, both in South Africa. The worms are about 4 millimetres (0.2 in) long and 2 millimetres (0.08 in) wide with minimal sexual dimorphism. Their body consists of a short trunk and a proboscis with 40 to 45 hooks arranged in rings, which are used to pierce and hold the rectal wall of its host. The life cycle of H. niekerki remains unknown; however, like other acanthocephalans, it likely involves complex interactions with at least two hosts. Although the intermediate host for Heptamegacanthus is not definitively identified, it is presumed to be an arthropod, such as an insect, which is eaten by the giant golden mole. The worms then mature and reproduce sexually within the mole's lower gastrointestinal tract, creating eggs which are released in its feces. (Full article...)

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Ice eggs, also known as ice balls, are a rare phenomenon caused by a process in which small pieces of sea ice in open water are rolled over by wind and currents in freezing conditions and grow into spheroid pieces of ice. They sometimes collect into heaps of balls on beaches where they pack together in striking patterns. The gentle churn of water, blown by a suitably stiff breeze, makes concentric layers of ice form on a seed particle that then grows into the floating ball as it rolls through the freezing currents. This formation of ice eggs was photographed in 2014 on Stroomi Beach in Tallinn, Estonia. The temperature was around −20 to −15 °C (−4 to 5 °F), and the diameter of each ball around 5 to 10 centimetres (2 to 4 in).

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Susanna Hoffs

Susanna Lee Hoffs (born 1959) is an American singer-songwriter. With Debbi Peterson and Vicki Peterson, she founded the Bangles in 1981. Their second album, Different Light (1986), was warmly received by critics and was certified triple-platinum in 1994. The group's third album, Everything (1988), included the US-top-ten-charting "In Your Room" and number-one "Eternal Flame", both written by Hoffs with Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly. Following tensions including resentment at Hoffs's perceived leadership of the band and the stress of touring, the band split in 1989, reforming in 1999. Hoffs's first solo album, When You're a Boy (1991), was followed by Susanna Hoffs (1996). Neither of the releases proved to be as popular as the Bangles's albums, although they yielded two US-charting singles. Her most recent solo album is The Deep End (2023), and her first novel, This Bird Has Flown, a romantic comedy about a struggling musician, was published in the same year. (Full article...)

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Ice eggs

Ice eggs, also known as ice balls, are a rare phenomenon caused by a process in which small pieces of sea ice in open water are rolled over by wind and currents in freezing conditions and grow into spheroid pieces of ice. They sometimes collect into heaps of balls on beaches where they pack together in striking patterns. The gentle churn of water, blown by a suitably stiff breeze, makes concentric layers of ice form on a seed particle that then grows into the floating ball as it rolls through the freezing currents. This formation of ice eggs was photographed in 2014 on Stroomi Beach in Tallinn, Estonia. The temperature was around −20 to −15 °C (−4 to 5 °F), and the diameter of each ball around 5 to 10 centimetres (2 to 4 in).

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Giant golden mole, type host of H. niekerki
Giant golden mole, type host of H. niekerki

Heptamegacanthus is a genus of acanthocephalans (thorny- or spiny-headed parasitic worms) containing a single species, Heptamegacanthus niekerki. This worm is a parasite of the endangered giant golden mole (example pictured) found only in isolated forests near East London and in the Transkei, both in South Africa. The worms are about 4 millimetres (0.2 in) long and 2 millimetres (0.08 in) wide with minimal sexual dimorphism. Their body consists of a short trunk and a proboscis with 40 to 45 hooks arranged in rings, which are used to pierce and hold the rectal wall of its host. The life cycle of H. niekerki remains unknown; however, like other acanthocephalans, it likely involves complex interactions with at least two hosts. Although the intermediate host for Heptamegacanthus is not definitively identified, it is presumed to be an arthropod, such as an insect, which is eaten by the giant golden mole. The worms then mature and reproduce sexually within the mole's lower gastrointestinal tract, creating eggs which are released in its feces. (Full article...)

Susanna Hoffs

Susanna Lee Hoffs (born 1959) is an American singer-songwriter. With Debbi Peterson and Vicki Peterson, she founded the Bangles in 1981. Their second album, Different Light (1986), was warmly received by critics and was certified triple-platinum in 1994. The group's third album, Everything (1988), included the US-top-ten-charting "In Your Room" and number-one "Eternal Flame", both written by Hoffs with Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly. Following tensions including resentment at Hoffs's perceived leadership of the band and the stress of touring, the band split in 1989, reforming in 1999. Hoffs's first solo album, When You're a Boy (1991), was followed by Susanna Hoffs (1996). Neither of the releases proved to be as popular as the Bangles's albums, although they yielded two US-charting singles. Her most recent solo album is The Deep End (2023), and her first novel, This Bird Has Flown, a romantic comedy about a struggling musician, was published in the same year. (Full article...)

Union artillery in action at Cane Hill
Union artillery in action at Cane Hill

The battle of Cane Hill was fought during the American Civil War on November 28, 1862, near the town of Cane Hill, Arkansas. Union troops under James G. Blunt had pursued Confederate troops commanded by Thomas C. Hindman into northwestern Arkansas, and Hindman saw an opportunity to attack Blunt while the latter was isolated. Confederate cavalry under John S. Marmaduke moved to Cane Hill to collect supplies. Blunt moved to attack Marmaduke on November 27. The Union advance made contact with Confederate troopers the next morning. The Confederates fell back to an elevation known as Reed's Mountain. Blunt continued to pursue after the Confederates abandoned Reed's Mountain, but his leading elements ran into an ambush. The Confederates then presented a flag of truce as a ruse to buy time. Hindman's army and Blunt's reinforced command fought the Battle of Prairie Grove on December 7, which retained Union control of Missouri and northwestern Arkansas. (Full article...)

Santa Cruz entering the field before a game in Belém
Santa Cruz entering the field before a game in Belém

The Suicidal Tour took place when Brazilian professional football club Santa Cruz Futebol Clube toured the North Region of Brazil from 2 January 1943 to 29 April 1943. Over almost four months, they played either 26 or 28 friendly matches in six cities. The tour gained its name due to the misfortunes endured by the club. Looking to recover from a financial crisis, Santa Cruz arranged five matches in Belém, Pará. Traveling up the Amazon River for another round of matches, they first started experiencing problems in Manaus, where two players left to play for other clubs and seven members of the team's delegation caught dysentery. Two players went on to catch typhoid fever and died. Unable to return home through the sea, and needing to cover growing costs, Santa Cruz had to return to Recife by land, playing matches along the way to earn money. The return had further problems, including a fake arrest warrant for a player, a trip alongside thieves, and two train derailments. (Full article...)

Lord Curzon, winner of the election
Lord Curzon, winner of the election

The January 1908 Irish representative peer election was held to fill a vacancy among the 28 Irish representative peers at the time elected for life to the British House of Lords, with ballots sent by post to the 134 Irish peers eligible to vote. The winner was Lord Curzon (pictured), the former viceroy of India, who had never been to Ireland and owned no Irish lands. A former MP, he ran to return to parliament after being denied an earldom by the prime minister, Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman. As he had not asked the House of Lords to affirm his right to vote in Irish representative peer elections, as required to vote in them, some stated that Curzon was ineligible for election. Despite a late start and opposition to him as non-Irish, Curzon led with two votes more than Lord Ashtown, who had two more than Lord Farnham, but the official return noted Curzon was not among those who could vote. When the House of Lords convened, the Lord Chancellor, Lord Loreburn, declared Curzon the winner. (Full article...)

Benty Grange helmet

The Benty Grange helmet is a boar-crested Anglo-Saxon helmet from the 7th century. It was excavated by Thomas Bateman in 1848 from a burial mound at the Benty Grange farm in Monyash in western Derbyshire. The grave had probably been looted by the time of Bateman's excavation, but still contained other high-status objects suggestive of a richly furnished burial, such as the fragmentary remains of a hanging bowl. The ornate helmet was constructed by covering the outside of an iron framework with plates of horn and the inside with cloth or leather, now decayed. It would have provided some protection against weapons, but may have also been intended for ceremonial use. It was the first Anglo-Saxon helmet to be discovered; others have been found at Sutton Hoo, York, Wollaston, Shorwell, and Staffordshire. The helmet is displayed at Sheffield's Weston Park Museum, which purchased it from Bateman's estate in 1893. (Full article...)

Ichiko Aoba
Ichiko Aoba

Windswept Adan is the seventh studio album by Japanese singer-songwriter Ichiko Aoba (pictured), released on 2 December 2020 by her label, Hermine. The concept album follows the story of a young girl who is sent away by her family to the fictional island of Adan. Aoba and composer Taro Umebayashi wrote, composed, arranged, and produced the music for the album, which was preceded by one single, "Porcelain". Windswept Adan is a chamber folk and psychedelic folk album with elements of jazz, classical, and ambient music. Marking a departure from Aoba's earlier minimalist instrumentation, it includes a celesta, wind chimes, string arrangements, and vocal performances. The album received widespread critical acclaim for its arrangements, instrumentation, and worldbuilding. Upon its release, the album debuted at number 82 on the Billboard Japan Hot Albums chart and number 88 on the Oricon Albums Chart. Aoba supported the album with her first international tour between August and October 2022. (Full article...)

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Ice eggs, also known as ice balls, are a rare phenomenon caused by a process in which small pieces of sea ice in open water are rolled over by wind and currents in freezing conditions and grow into spheroid pieces of ice. They sometimes collect into heaps of balls on beaches where they pack together in striking patterns. The gentle churn of water, blown by a suitably stiff breeze, makes concentric layers of ice form on a seed particle that then grows into the floating ball as it rolls through the freezing currents. This formation of ice eggs was photographed in 2014 on Stroomi Beach in Tallinn, Estonia. The temperature was around −20 to −15 °C (−4 to 5 °F), and the diameter of each ball around 5 to 10 centimetres (2 to 4 in).

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Francis L. Sampson
Francis L. Sampson
  • ... that German soldiers did not believe that Francis L. Sampson (pictured) was a non-combatant after his capture during the D-Day landings, because they had never seen a paratrooper chaplain before?
  • ... that the hips of some 19th-century Fijian young women were tattooed with veiqia when they reached puberty?
  • ... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?
  • ... that two best-seller lists initially classified The Children's Book of Virtues as non-fiction, but later moved it to their fiction charts?
  • ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being noticed while walking home from school?
  • ... that the U.S. Air Force considered a bomber version of the F-22 Raptor known as the FB-22?
  • ... that a new soccer team in Boise, Idaho, plans to play at a converted horse racing track?
  • ... that geologist Gilbert Wilson was the fifth Wilson at school, so he was known as "Quintus"?
  • ... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?
Atrium of The Empire Brunei
Atrium of The Empire Brunei
Nayib Bukele
Nayib Bukele
  • ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) has referred to himself as the "coolest dictator in the world"?
  • ... that both the Old City of Gaza and the Old City of Nablus have been repeatedly damaged by Israeli invasion and bombardment?
  • ... that Ragnvi Torslow, a five-time Swedish figure skating champion in the 1920s, was a founder of the Bilkåren, an organization that trained 3000 women to drive during World War II?
  • ... that St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill, contains a font designed by John Francis Bentley and in which he was later baptised?
  • ... that the 1983 Spanish floods were the most economically damaging in Spain until the 2024 Spanish floods?
  • ... that the medieval Castle Knob was the site of a Cold War nuclear monitoring station?
  • ... that Zhou Houkun wrote a thesis on the use of bamboo to reinforce concrete?
  • ... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California?
  • ... that weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu drank six huge glasses of beer to help himself urinate for a drug test?
Head of the God of Amiens
Head of the God of Amiens
Zooming In on the Andromeda Galaxy
Zooming In on the Andromeda Galaxy
Former tin mining pit in Belitung, Indonesia
Former tin mining pit in Belitung, Indonesia
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TFA/TFL requests


Summary chart

Currently accepting requests from February 1 to March 3.

Date Article Notes Supports Opposes
Nonspecific 1 Benjamin F. McAdoo African-American for Black History Month 2
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February 4 Prostate cancer TFA re-run from 2006. World Cancer Day 1
February 6 John Silva Meehan 235th birthday 1
February 12 Ragnar Garrett 125th birthday 1

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Nonspecific date nominations

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Benjamin F. McAdoo

McAdoo, 1946
McAdoo, 1946

Benjamin F. McAdoo (October 29, 1920 – June 18, 1981) was an American architect mainly active in the Seattle area. Born in Pasadena, California, he was inspired to study architecture by a mechanical drawing class and the work of Paul R. Williams. After working as a draftsman for local architectural firms and the Corps of Engineers, he pursued his Bachelor of Architecture at the University of Washington. The first licensed Black architect in the state of Washington, his work featured a modernist aesthetic influenced by the Northwest Regional style. After designing a number of low-income houses and apartments throughout the 1950s, he was hired by the Agency for International Development to design modular houses in Jamaica. He returned to Seattle after a period of work in Washington, D.C., and pursued civic architectural commissions. Outside of work, he participated in the NAACP, hosted a weekly radio show on racial issues for several years, and unsuccessfully ran for a seat in the Washington House of Representatives. (Full article...)

  • Most recent similar article(s): I cannot find a recent article on an architect at TFA, though correct me if I'm off base here.
  • Main editors: Generalissima
  • Promoted: 16 November 2024
  • Reasons for nomination: I think it would be nice to have an article on African-American history in February to mark Black History Month in the United States & Canada.
  • Support as nominator. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 07:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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Specific date nominations

February 4

Prostate cancer

Diagram of prostate tumor pressing on urethra
Diagram of prostate tumor pressing on urethra

Prostate cancer is the uncontrolled growth of cells in the prostate, often detected through screening with a biopsy required for diagnosis. Most prostate tumors cause no health problems, managed with surveillance. Dangerous tumors can be destroyed with radiation therapy or surgically removed; those whose cancer spreads receive hormone therapy. Most tumors are confined to the prostate, and 99% survive 10 years post-diagnosis. Metastasized tumors at distant sites have five-year survival rates of 30–40%. Those with a family history of cancer or inherit cancer-associated variants of the BRCA2 gene are more likely to have the disease. Each year 1.2 million cases are diagnosed and 350,000 die; it is the second-leading cause of cancer and cancer death in men. Prostate tumors were first described in the mid-19th century while radiation treatments and hormone therapies were developed by the mid-20th century. Hormone therapies were recognized with Nobel Prizes to Charles B. Huggins and Andrew Schally. (Full article...)

February 6

John Silva Meehan

John Silva Meehan

John Silva Meehan was an American publisher, printer, and newspaper editor. Born in New York City on February 6, 1790, he served in the US navy during the War of 1812. He then moved to Philadelphia, publishing a Baptist religious journal. When the firm moved to Washington, D.C. in 1822, Meehan edited and published a Baptist weekly newspaper. In late 1825 he purchased the City of Washington Gazette, renaming it the United States' Telegraph and taking a partisan stance. He was appointed as librarian of Congress in 1828. A large fire in December 1851 destroyed much of the Library of Congress's collection; Meehan oversaw its reconstruction. The election of Abraham Lincoln prompted Meehan's removal in 1861, and he died suddenly in 1863. Historians were critical of Meehan's tenure, noting that he deferred to the Joint Committee on the Library for policy, did not change the library's catalog system, and failed to make progress in transforming the institution into a true national library. (Full article...)

February 10

Siege of Baghdad

Siege of Baghdad

The siege of Baghdad took place in early 1258 when a large army under Hulegu, a prince of the Mongol Empire, attacked Baghdad, the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate. Hulegu had been sent by his brother, the Mongol khan Möngke, to conquer Persia. He expected Baghdad's ruler, Caliph al-Musta'sim, to reinforce his army, but this did not happen. Provoked by al-Musta'sim's arrogance, Hulegu decided to overthrow him. The Mongol army of over 138,000 men routed a sortie by flooding their camp, and besieged the city, which was left with around 30,000 troops. After Mongol siege engines breached Baghdad's walls, al-Musta'sim surrendered on 10 February, and was later executed. The Mongol army pillaged the city for a week; the number of deaths is unknown, but Hulegu estimated a total of 200,000. The siege, often seen as the end of the Islamic Golden Age, was in reality not era-defining: Baghdad later prospered under Hulegu's Ilkhanate. (Full article...)

February 12

Ragnar Garrett

Ragnar Garrett

Ragnar Garrett (12 February 1900 – 4 November 1977) was Chief of the General Staff in the Australian Army from 1958 to 1960. He completed staff training in England just as the Second World War broke out, joined the Second Australian Imperial Force, and commanded the 2/31st Battalion in England before seeing action with Australian brigades in Greece and Crete in 1941. Promoted to colonel the following year, he held senior positions with I Corps in New Guinea and II Corps on Bougainville in 1944–1945. He was appointed a Commander of the Order of the British Empire for his staff work. After the war, he served two terms as commandant of the Staff College, Queenscliff, in 1946–1947 and 1949–1951. Between these appointments he was posted to Japan with the British Commonwealth Occupation Force. He took charge of Western Command in August 1951, became Deputy Chief of the General Staff in January 1953, and took over Southern Command as a lieutenant general in October 1954. He was knighted in 1959. (Full article...)

February 22

Eddie Gerard

Eddie Gerard

Eddie Gerard (February 22, 1890 – August 7, 1937) was a Canadian ice hockey player, coach, and manager. Born in Ottawa, Ontario, he played professionally for 10 seasons for the Ottawa Senators, as a left winger for three years before switching to defence. He was the first player to win the Stanley Cup four years in a row, from 1920 to 1923, three times with the Senators and once as an injury replacement player with the Toronto St. Patricks. After his playing career he served as a coach and manager, working with the Montreal Maroons from 1925 until 1929, and winning the Stanley Cup in 1926. He coached the New York Americans for two seasons before returning to the Maroons for two more seasons, then ended his career coaching the St. Louis Eagles in 1934. Regarded as one of the best defenders of his era, Gerard was one of the original nine players inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1945. He is also an inductee of Canada's Sports Hall of Fame. (Full article...)

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Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance

Living Colour in 1993

The Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock Performance was an award presented at the Grammy Awards to recording artists for works (songs or albums) containing quality vocal performances in the hard rock genre. The honor was first presented to Living Colour (pictured) at the 32nd Annual Grammy Awards (1990) for the song "Cult of Personality". The bands Foo Fighters, Living Colour, and the Smashing Pumpkins share the record for the most wins, with two each. Alice in Chains holds the record for the most nominations without a win, with eight. (Full list...)

Thanks for your consideration! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Anjelica Huston

Anjelica Huston is an American actress and filmmaker who has received numerous accolades throughout her career. She had her breakthrough role in the black comedy film Prizzi's Honor (1985), which won her the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, making her the third generation of her family to win an Oscar, following her father John and grandfather Walter Huston. She received two additional Academy Award nominations for Enemies, A Love Story (1989) and The Grifters (1990). She received two BAFTA Award nominations for the Woody Allen–directed films Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) and Manhattan Murder Mystery (1993), and two Golden Globe Award nominations for her interpretation of Morticia Addams in The Addams Family (1991) and its sequel Addams Family Values (1993). (Full list...)

--Leo Mercury (talk) 18:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Outline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is an American media franchise and shared universe created by Marvel Studios. Beginning in 2008 with the release of the film Iron Man, the franchise has since expanded to include various feature films and television series produced by Marvel Studios, television series from Marvel Television, and other media based on Marvel Comics characters. The franchise's most recent release is the film Thunderbolts*. Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige (pictured) oversees the main MCU productions. The MCU, similar to the original Marvel Universe, was established by crossing over common plot elements, settings, cast members, and characters. It has been commercially successful, becoming one of the highest-grossing media franchises and the highest-grossing film franchise. This includes Avengers: Endgame, which concluded its theatrical run in 2019 as the highest-grossing film of all time. The franchise's success has influenced other studios to attempt similar shared universes. (Full list...)

I would like to suggest this for May 2, 2025, as it is the 17 year anniversary of the release of the first MCU film, Iron Man, to a tee. I know 2025 is a ways away, though I felt it was best to get this submitted sooner rather than later. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I have made a few modifications to this blurb since I originally submitted it, including swapping the image and mentioning what the most recent release of this franchise will be by the time of the date I have requested, because that film's release coincides with the intended date. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

77th Academy Awards

Clint Eastwood
Clint Eastwood

The 77th Academy Awards ceremony, presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), honored films released in 2004 and took place on February 27, 2005, at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood, Los Angeles. During the ceremony, AMPAS presented Academy Awards in 24 categories. The ceremony, televised in the United States by ABC, was produced by Gilbert Cates and directed by Louis J. Horvitz. Actor Chris Rock hosted the show for the first time. Million Dollar Baby won four awards including Best Picture and Best Director for Clint Eastwood (pictured). Other winners included The Aviator with five awards and The Incredibles and Ray with two. The telecast garnered over 42 viewers in the United States. (Full list...)

I would like this list to be posted on March 3 since the 97th Academy Awards are scheduled for March 2 (or March 3 00:00 UTC), and it will have been 20 years since this particular ceremony occurred. Birdienest81talk 06:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

List of presidents of the United States

Since the presidency of the United States was established in 1789, 45 men have served in 46 presidencies. The president is the head of state and government, elected indirectly for a four-year term via the Electoral College. The officeholder leads the executive branch of the federal government and is the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces. The first president, George Washington, won a unanimous vote of the Electoral College, and was the only one never affiliated with a political party. William Henry Harrison's presidency was the shortest at 31 days. Franklin D. Roosevelt served the longest, over twelve years, and is the only president to serve more than two terms. Since the Twenty-second Amendment in 1951, no person may be elected president more than twice, and no one who has served more than two years of another's term may be elected more than once. Four presidents died of natural causes in office (William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin D. Roosevelt), four were assassinated (Abraham Lincoln, James A. Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy), and one resigned (Richard Nixon). The incumbent president is _____, who assumed office on January 20, 20__ (Full list...)

Feel free to copy-edit the blurb or make any other appropriate changes. As for the image, I decided to go with this group pic rather that simply the presidential flag or the White House. The portraits of Joe Biden/Donald Trump might be a bit controversial. I, alongside many other editors, helped promote this list to FL status a few years ago, and what would be a better date to run it than January 20, 2025 (Monday)! The only hurdle would be that we'll require assistance from an admin to update it real-time to change it from Biden to whoever would be. Let me know what your thoughts are. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 19:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

What if it was worded as "The most recently elected president is ___, who takes office on January 20, 2025."? I don't think that would have to be updated during the day. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
"45 men have served in 46 presidencies" will also be needed to update; as the things stand, Biden is not seeking another term, so this figure, for sure, would have to be changed at 12 noon Washington DC time, or whenever the next president takes the oath. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Good point. If we end up having an admin update this, I don't think that would be too challenging as long as the exact change is specified in advance. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

United States congressional delegations from Arizona

Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022
Map of Arizona's nine congressional districts for the United States House of Representatives since 2022

Since Arizona became a U.S. state in 1912, it has sent congressional delegations to the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives, beginning with the 63rd United States Congress in 1913. Before becoming a state, the Arizona Territory elected a non-voting delegate at-large to Congress from 1864 to 1912. Each state elects two senators to serve for six years, and varying numbers of members of the House, depending on state population, to two-year terms. Arizona has sent nine members to the House in each delegation since the 2010 United States Census. A total of 57 people have served Arizona in the House and 14 have served Arizona in the Senate. The first woman to serve Arizona in the House was Isabella Greenway. Seven women have served Arizona in the House, including Kyrsten Sinema and Martha McSally, who also served Arizona in the Senate, the only women to do so. (Full list...)

Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:58, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

List of cities in Donetsk Oblast

View of Donetsk, capital and most populous city in the oblast
View of Donetsk, capital and most populous city in the oblast

In Ukraine's eastern Donetsk Oblast, there are 52 populated places officially granted city status by the Verkhovna Rada, the country's parliament. Settlements with more than 10,000 people are eligible to become cities although the status is also typically given by parliament to settlements of historical or regional importance. According to the country's last official census in 2001, the most populous city in the oblast was the regional capital Donetsk, with a population of 1,016,194 people, while the least populous city was Sviatohirsk, with 5,136 people. Following fighting during the Donbas war, 21 of the oblast's cities were occupied by pro-Russian separatists. After the enactment of decommunization laws across the country, ten cities in both Ukrainian-controlled and separatist-occupied territory were given new names in 2016 which were unrecognized by de facto pro-Russian officials in the occupied cities. During the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian troops have occupied an additional eleven cities, of which two (Lyman and Sviatohirsk) were recovered by Ukraine. (Full list...)

List of Johnson solids

The Johnson solid is a convex polyhedron in which all of the faces are regular polygons. Here, polyhedron means a three-dimensions object containing flat faces that are bounded by the edges, and a polyhedron is said to be convex if the faces are not in the same plane and the edges are not in the same line. There are 92 Johnson solids, and some of the authors exclude uniform polyhedrons from the definition: Archimedean solids, Platonic solids, prisms, and antiprisms. The set of solids was published by American mathematician Norman Johnson in 1966. The list was completed and no other examples existed was proved by Russian-Israeli mathematician Victor Zalgaller in 1969. (Full list...)

I would like to suggest two dates based on the international day: either the date of December 5, 2024 as part of the International Dodecahedron Day or the date of March 14, 2025, which coincide the International Day of Mathematics. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 04:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I think March 14, 2025 works better, as it falls on a Friday (December 5 is a Thursday this year so the date would have to be shifted). RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Okay. Date it to March 14, 2025. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 07:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

List of Zambian parliamentary constituencies

Location of Zambia within Africa
Location of Zambia within Africa

The National Assembly is the unicameral legislature of Zambia, a landlocked country in southern Africa, east of Angola. The seat of the assembly is at the capital of the country, Lusaka, and it is presided over by a Speaker and two deputy Speakers. The National Assembly has existed since 1964, before which it was known as the Legislative Council. Since 2016, the assembly has had 167 members. Of those, 156 are elected by the first-past-the-post system in single-member constituencies, a further eight are appointed by the President, and three others are ex officio members. The constitution mandates that the constituencies are delimited after every census by the Electoral Commission of Zambia. (Full list...)

Doctor Who Christmas and New Year's Specials

The TARDIS on the set of "The Church on Ruby Road"
The TARDIS on the set of "The Church on Ruby Road"

Since 2005, Doctor Who has aired 19 special episodes on Christmas or New Year's Day. During its original run, from 1963–1989, episodes were occasionally broadcast over holiday periods, but they rarely made mention of the holidays. Once the programme was revived in 2005, special Christmas episodes were produced yearly until 2017. From 2019–2022, the show transitioned to New Year's Day specials instead. The series then returned to Christmas specials once more in 2023. The holiday episodes have proven to be a success with viewers, by bringing in larger viewing figures than regular episodes of the programme. Doctor Who is a British science-fiction television series that airs on BBC One and releases on Disney+. It revolves around an alien called the Doctor who travels with a companion in a time and space machine called the TARDIS. A twentieth special, "Joy to the World", is set to release on December 25, 2024. (Full list...)

I'd like to suggest this for December 23, 2024, for obvious reasons. Thanks! TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

List of Liechtenstein general elections

General elections in Liechtenstein have been held since the ratification of the 1862 constitution in which the Landtag of Liechtenstein was established. Political parties did not exist in Liechtenstein until they were formed in 1918. Before the ratification of the 1921 constitution, the head of government was not elected, but rather appointed by the prince of Liechtenstein, thus elections were only held to elect members of the Landtag. Under the constitution general elections are held for the members of the Landtag of Liechtenstein, who then elect the prime minister. As of 2021, there have been 48 general elections held in Liechtenstein. (Full list...)

TheBritinator (talk) 21:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Suggesting 7 or 10 February 2025 to coincide with the 2025 Liechtenstein general election on 9 February 2025. Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Agreed. That would be terrific. TheBritinator (talk) 11:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

List of Seattle Kraken draft picks

Matty Beniers was the first ever draft selection for the Kraken, taken second overall in 2021.
Matty Beniers was the first ever draft selection for the Kraken, taken second overall in 2021.

The Seattle Kraken have selected 36 players through four NHL entry drafts as of 2024. The Kraken compete in the National Hockey League as a member of the Pacific Division of the Western Conference and began play during the league's 2021–22 season. The NHL entry draft is held each off-season, allowing teams to select players who have turned 18 years old by September 15 in the year the draft is held. The Kraken's first-ever draft pick was Matty Beniers, taken second overall in the 2021 NHL entry draft. After the 2022–23 season, Beniers won the Calder Memorial Trophy as the league's best rookie after accumulating 24 goals and 33 assists in 80 games. The Kraken's second overall pick in 2021 was the highest they have ever drafted. Only four of the Kraken's draft picks have gone on to play with the Kraken: Beniers, Ryker Evans, Ryan Winterton, and Shane Wright. (Full list...)

XR228 (talk) 18:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Seattle Kraken broadcasters

John Forslund has been the Kraken's play-by-play announcer for all three of their seasons.
John Forslund has been the Kraken's play-by-play announcer for all three of their seasons.

The Seattle Kraken throughout their history have been primarily televised on Root Sports Northwest and radio broadcast primarily on KJR-FM. The Kraken compete in the National Hockey League as a member of the Pacific Division of the Western Conference and began play during the league's 2021–22 season. John Forslund serves as the team's television play-by-play announcer. J. T. Brown is the Kraken's primary television color analyst. In August 2022, the team hired Eddie Olczyk to be a television analyst alongside Forslund and Brown. Everett Fitzhugh serves as the team's primary radio play-by-play announcer. He is the first Black full-time play-by-play announcer in NHL history. Dave Tomlinson served as Fitzhugh's color analyst for the Kraken's first two seasons, before resigning in August 2023. The Kraken hired commentator Al Kinisky to replace him. Kraken games were televised regionally on Root Sports Northwest for the team's first three seasons. On April 25, 2024, the Kraken signed a deal with Tegna, owners of television stations KING-TV and KONG, to air their games throughout their territory, with streaming handled by Amazon Prime Video. For radio, Kraken games are broadcast on KJR-FM 93.3 and KJR AM 950, the flagship stations of the Kraken Audio Network. (Full list...)

XR228 (talk) 20:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by the Linda Lindas

List of songs recorded by the Linda Lindas
List of songs recorded by the Linda Lindas

American rock band the Linda Lindas have recorded songs for one studio album, two extended plays (EPs), multiple singles, and other album appearances. The band consists of guitarist Lucia de la Garza, drummer Mila de la Garza, guitarist Bela Salazar and bassist Eloise Wong. Along with their main catalog, the Linda Lindas have appeared on one cover, one remix, and one tribute album, as well as soundtracks. Among the songs, eight are covers, and most were produced by Carlos de la Garza, the father of band members Lucia and Mila. (Full list...)

{{The Sharpest Lives|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 20:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Seattle Kraken players

Kraken alternate captain Adam Larsson has played 245 games with the team, meaning he has played all games in the Kraken's three 82-game seasons but one.
Kraken alternate captain Adam Larsson has played 245 games with the team, meaning he has played all games in the Kraken's three 82-game seasons but one.

The Seattle Kraken have had 59 players play for the team in at least one regular season game as of 2024, including 59 players, 4 goaltenders and 55 skaters (forwards and defensemen). The Kraken are a professional ice hockey team that is a member of the Pacific Division of the National Hockey League. Adam Larsson has the most games played out of any Kraken, with 245. Jared McCann leads the Kraken in both goals and points, with 96 and 182, respectively. Vince Dunn leads the Kraken in assists, with 113. Each NHL team may also select a captain, who has the "privilege of discussing with the Referee any questions relating to interpretation of rules which may arise during the progress of a game." The first player to have served as captain of the Kraken is Mark Giordano, his captaincy starting in October 2021 and ending five months later. On October 8, 2024, prior the Kraken's first game of the 2024–25 season, Jordan Eberle was named the team's new captain. (Full list...)

XR228 (talk) 00:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Vegas Golden Knights players

Five Golden Knights players warming up before a game in February 2018
Five Golden Knights players warming up before a game in February 2018

The Vegas Golden Knights have had 96 players appear for the team in at least one regular-season game as of 2024, including 84 skaters (forwards and defencemen) and 12 goaltenders. An American professional ice hockey franchise located in Las Vegas, Nevada, the Golden Knights were founded ahead of the 2017–18 season as an expansion team, and play in the Pacific Division of the Western Conference in the National Hockey League (NHL). Jonathan Marchessault leads the franchise in games played, goals, assists, and points, as well as several playoff records, while Marc-Andre Fleury holds most goaltender records. Mark Stone has served as the franchise's first and only captain since 2021. 27 players, including 23 skaters and an NHL-record 4 goaltenders, were inscribed on the Stanley Cup following Vegas' victory in the 2023 Stanley Cup Finals. (Full list...)

International Film Music Critics Association Award for Best Original Score for Television

Bear McCreary
Bear McCreary

The International Film Music Critics Association Award for Best Original Score for Television is an annual award given by the International Film Music Critics Association (IFMCA). Established in 2004, the award is given to the composer of a television score based on two criteria: "the effectiveness, appropriateness and emotional impact of the score in the context of the film for which it was written; and the technical and intellectual merit of the composition when heard as a standalone listening experience." As of 2024, 70 composers have been nominated for the award. The first award was given to Steve Bartek and Danny Elfman for their work on the television series Desperate Housewives. The most recent recipient was James Newton Howard for his work on the series All the Light We Cannot See. Bear McCreary (pictured) has been nominated twelve times and won four. Three composers have been nominated multiple times in a year: Ramin Djawadi, Robert Lane, and Bear McCleary. (Full list...)

I recommend either Feburary 14, 2025 or Febuary 28, 2025. If tradition holds, those dates will be right after the nominations and winners are announced, respectively. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 17:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup statistics

Winning team captain Rohit Sharma
Winning team captain Rohit Sharma

The 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup was the ninth edition of the ICC Men's T20 World Cup, a biennial T20I tournament held between men's national cricket teams, organized by the International Cricket Council (ICC). It was co-hosted by the West Indies and the United States from 1 to 29 June 2024. India national cricket team captained by Rohit Sharma (pictured) managed to win their second T20 World Cup title, equalling the West Indies and England in most tournaments won, while also becoming the first team in T20 World Cup history to win the title undefeated throughout the tournament. India previously won the title in 2007, thus breaking the record for the longest time between successive tournament wins (17 years), surpassing the 12 years set by England. Indian captain Rohit Sharma also became the first Indian player to win the T20 World Cup twice, and the first captain to win 50 T20I matches surpassing the record of MS Dhoni. (Full list...)

Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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Yoav Gallant in 2023
Yoav Gallant

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November 25


2024 Uruguayan general election

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Article: 2024 Uruguayan general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Yamandú Orsi and the Broad Front wins the runoff to the 2024 Uruguayan general election against Álvaro Delgado and the Republican Coalition. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera AP News
Credits:
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I believe this is ITN/R as both a change in the president (according to AP News) and as the results of a general election. Please let me know if I'm missing something; thanks! Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Comment Álvaro Delgado is a disambiguation link. I think you mean Álvaro Delgado (politician). 64.114 etc 04:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Breyten Breytenbach

Article: Breyten Breytenbach (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Plifal (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Nominator's comments: Important anti-apartheid activist and poet laureate.

November 24

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RD: Rico Carty

Article: Rico Carty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

COP29

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Article: 2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: COP29 concludes with an agreement on finance for developing nations to help them address and mitigate climate change. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, Reuters, BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Neither the conference nor our article seem impressive but we should consider the topic while we are planning to promote multiple motor racing events (1, 2, 3). It's certainly in the news and significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:24, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

What relevance do the Motorsports items have to this, beyond ye olde “sports r dumb” comment? The Kip (contribs) 09:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
They all use fossil fuels. The conference agreed a statement about transitioning away from fossil fuels despite opposition from countries like Saudi Arabia. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Ugh, this is irrelevant to whether this conference should get posted or not. We should be considering each event individually on their own merits. I am personally neutral on this nomination, as I do not know much about COP. Natg 19 (talk) 10:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
FYI, the similar COP28 conference was posted last year. See nomination. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: Article looks good and well cited. Moraljaya67 (talk)
  • Oppose on quality, at least. Article may be well sourced but is a mess in terms of tenses (a lot of future tense). In terms of significance, I'm not sure if this result is really as impactful as something like the Paris agreement to merit posting. --Masem (t) 13:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    Oppose on quality per above. I'm neutral, leaning support on notability. The title really should be COP29 though, Climate Change has always and will always be brought here only to not be posted. Departure– (talk) 14:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Fixed the headline. Brandmeistertalk 14:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Have we posted COP before? Scuba 15:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    @Scu ba Yes, indeed we have done it in several occasions, including last year, in 2021 and in 2015. Oltrepier (talk) 15:28, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    Okay, then I'll vote Support, article is of high enough quality, and there is precedent. Scuba 15:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: as much as the final result of this conference feels extremely disappointing, the COPs are still one of the most important tools national delegations and associations have to negotiate on plans aimed to help our planet and its ecosystems survive. So, yeah, I think they should be addressed even when progress is not so significant. By the way, I'll try to go through the article myself to correct the grammar, as suggested by Masem. Oltrepier (talk) 15:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    Right, I've tried to get the article in better shape, and I think I should have solved all of the most glaring issues with tenses and grammar, although I must confess there are a lot of useful bits of information that are still missing from the page... Oltrepier (talk) 21:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per Oltrepier. FlipandFlopped 16:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on notability these summits happen regularly and there's always lots of talk but nothing of note ever happens other than vague meaningless declarations as a result, leaving everyone, particularly those still believing something might change, predictably dissapointed. Having a handful of people fly in on private planes from around the world to an oil-rich dictatorship to pretend to do something about climate change is textbook greenwashing. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose: For the reasons @Abcmaxx succinctly outlines. Also, because we have posted something in the past doesn't mean we should now. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 22:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support These conferences happen annually, but they are the largest regular international conferences on Climate Change. This year's summit notably saw an agreement on a specific numerical goal for climate finance. Jackattack1597 (talk) 04:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Chia-ying Yeh

Article: Chia-ying Yeh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): China Daily
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death confirmed today. Chinese-born Canadian poet and sinologist Greencarp (talk) 13:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article properly cited. Scuba 15:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Zvi Kogan

Article: Zvi Kogan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death confirmed today. Article was just created. Needs expansion. Thriley (talk) 07:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good. Scuba 15:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Fred R. Harris

Article: Fred R. Harris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American politican from Oklahoma. Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Support no problems with the article. Scuba 15:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

2024 World Rally Championship

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Article: 2024 World Rally Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorsport, Thierry Neuville (pictured) and Martijn Wydaeghe win the World Rally Championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In motorsport, Thierry Neuville (pictured) and Martijn Wydaeghe win the World Rally Championship, while Toyota win the manufacturer's title.
News source(s): France 24
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Looks like the article is good for posting. Moraljaya67 (talk) 04:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment tweaked the blurb Added ALT blurb. Unnamelessness (talk) 07:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support The article is good to go. Probrably could issue a blurb together with the F1, something like: In motorsport, Max Verstappen and the crew of Thierry Neuville and Martijn Wydaeghe respectively win the the Formula One World Championship and the World Rally Championship. Unnamelessness (talk) 07:52, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    These are completely unrelated sports, so shouldn't be combined. Yes they both use cars, but we wouldn't combine rugby with football just because they both use balls, or tennis with squash because they both use racquets. Modest Genius talk 15:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    The difference is that both championships are organized by the same organization (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile), and both championships are listed under the same ITNR category (Motorsport). Unnamelessness (talk) 16:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support article looks good. Scuba 15:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment many parts of the text are ungrammatical and unidiomatic, as if they've been through automated translation. I've tried to tidy up the season summary, but parts are still contradictory or difficult to follow. This could do with some attention by someone who followed the season - I don't have time to dig into all the references. Modest Genius talk 15:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Support Also Support unnamelessness’ suggestion 27.96.223.193 (talk) 04:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Sara Duterte

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Article: Sara Duterte (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: The Vice President of the Philippines Sara Duterte (pictured) causes outrage after claiming in a briefing that she had spoken to kill President Ferdinand Marcos Jr., First lady Liza Araneta Marcos and House Speaker Martin Romualdez if she were to killed. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Vice President of the Philippines Sara Duterte (pictured) under fire after allegedly revealing in a briefing if she had arranged and assassination of President of the Philippines Ferdinand Marcos Jr., First lady Liza Araneta Marcos and House Speaker of the Philippines Martin Romualdez if she were to die.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Vice President of the Philippines Sara Duterte (pictured) faces criticism after reportedly admitting in a briefing that she ordered the assassination of President of the Philippines Ferdinand Marcos Jr., First lady Liza Araneta Marcos and House Speaker of the Philippines Martin Romualdez if she were killed.
News source(s): NBC, CNN and Reuters
Credits:

 Royiswariii Talk! 04:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose until this evolves into widespread protests, or a political crisis, or something beyond non-specific claims of "outrage". At least something with article to point towards, feigning the possibility of Duterte's death following these comments. Departure– (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Added bold formatting to bring all blurbs to ITN style. Departure– (talk) 05:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

November 23

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

  • Twenty-four people are killed and 46 others are rescued after two boats carrying 70 passengers capsize when the boats' engines failed in the Indian Ocean off the north coast of Madagascar. (BBC News)

International relations

Politics and elections

Sports


2024 Formula One World Championship

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Article: 2024 Formula One World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorsport, Max Verstappen (pictured) wins the Formula One World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: May produce a combination blurb with the WRC. Unnamelessness (talk) 07:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Support with conjoined F1-WRC blurb. Article should be OK too even without the prose on the latest race. Angusgtw (talk) 08:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Queston What's a WRC? HiLo48 (talk) 08:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
@HiLo48: World Rally Championship. Personally I would not be in favour of a merge because they're 2 different types of motor racing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 09:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
I fully agree. HiLo48 (talk) 09:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Support article looks good. Scuba 15:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Chuck Woolery

Article: Chuck Woolery (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chuck-woolery-dead-wheel-fortune-love-connection-1236070165/
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Filmography needs sourcing. RachelTensions (talk) 06:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft support filmography needs sourcing, but other than that it only has two cn tags. Scuba 15:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

November 22

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(Closed) Russia launches ICBM/IRBM into Ukraine

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Article: Oreshnik (missile) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Russia launches a hypersonic projectile claimed to be an Oreshnik intermediate-range ballistic missile from Astrakhan Oblast in a conventional strike on Dnipro, Ukraine. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Major escalation of Russian invasion of Ukraine. 219.74.216.56 (talkcontribs)
  • What exactly was launched is unclear, as we can't take Russia's own claims to their word, and more reliable sources says it wasn't ICBMs [3]. This is an escalation, but at this point, reasonably covered by the ongoing. --Masem (t) 17:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Strong oppose - this was NOT a nuclear warhead, and we have an article for the projectile - Oreshnik (missile). Let's not puff it up any more than it was. We didn't post Ukraine using West-supplied long-range missiles and Putin's nuclear threats that he always makes, so let's not post the use of Russia's shiny new toy. Also, you may want to use a template for future ITN submissions. Departure– (talk) 17:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Moved to a template. Departure– (talk) 17:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Masem and Departure. Covered by ongoing. The Kip (contribs) 18:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Appears not to be an ICBM, which might be notable. Otherwise, this appears to be suitably covered by ongoing. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, just change blurb according to RS, major escalation. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    Could you point me towards the RS that states this was an ICBM, or anything other than the blurb states, then? Also, this wasn't even the only hypersonic ballistic missile launch that day. Multiple Kh-47M2 Kinzhal strikes were reported in the same Reuters article. Departure– (talk) 20:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    Ok, source state that it was new intermediate-range ballistic missile.
    But also that it was a nuclear-capable weapon [4].
    It was a major escalation and major event in war, Putin addressed the nation, which he only did after the start of the war, mobilisation, and Prigozhin mutiny. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    The Kinzhal also has nuclear capabilities. Prigozhin's mutiny was quite a while ago so it tracks he'd make another address to remind the West there's a war going on, even when it's just a new weapon. I'd prefer not to take Putin on his word that this was something special. Departure– (talk) 21:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Departure- TheHiddenCity| (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose good faith nom. Just another day in a country that's been ruthlessly invaded and subjected to near daily indiscriminate bombing attacks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose not actually an intercontinental ballistic missile nor nuclear. If one of those is launched, would be more likely to fulfill notability requirement. FlipandFlopped 22:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Covered by Ongoing, Editor 5426387 (talk) 22:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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2024 Kurram massacre

Article: 2024 Kurram massacre (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Gunmen attacked a large passenger convoy of vehicles in Kurram district of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan, resulting in the death of 50 people and 30 injuries. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, NY Times, VOA, APP, The Guardian, DW, AP
Credits:

 Ainty Painty (talk) 03:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Support: Seems noteworthy. Deserves attention. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 04:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: Another major attack that should be on the main page. Harizotoh9 (talk) 05:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: A very significant and major insurgent attack, should be on the main Waleed (talk) 05:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality Seems too short, and what reactions there are are the usual "fluff" in the sense that there's condolances and not actual any actions. Likely needs a background section too. --Masem (t) 05:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Local leaders complaining of a lack of security, officials saying the death toll will rise, and the PM and President both commenting on the incident are not "fluff". The entire section is only 5 sentences long. Harizotoh9 (talk) 06:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
I would expect a good reaction section not to be flooded with non-action statements of sympathy and anger, but actual steps towards action to investigate and make sure such events happen again, what they are doing for familes of the victims, etc. (eg: its far too easy for quote anyone with "thoughts and prayers" after a tragic event, that doesn't make for good encyclopedic content) — Masem (t) 13:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Not enough sources, and it reads as a stub. Aneirinn (talk) 06:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality as the article is barebones. Support on notability, however. The Kip (contribs) 07:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Sectarian nature makes it more relevant to mention in the headline.Sportsnut24 (talk) 10:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality, support on notability the ongoing land dispute & sectarian conflict which is at the source of the attack needs to be fleshed out in the background section. As of now, all the article says is "Sunni and Shia Muslims are in conflict in the region over a dispute over land". That is nowhere near a sufficient explanation. We can't put an incomplete article on the main page. FlipandFlopped 22:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
support I don't see the Quality problems that other voter are talking about, it looks fine to me. Scuba 15:11, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Alice Brock

Article: Alice Brock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:
Article updated
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 240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD (talk) 03:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Gautam Adani indicted

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Articles: Gautam Adani (talk · history · tag) and United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al. (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Indian billionaire Gautam Adani and his associates are indicted by federal prosecutors for bribing Indian Government officials and concealing the details from American investors. (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Article updated
 - Ratnahastin (talk) 07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose at least on quality - the trial article, which should be linked, is a stub. Unsure on notability, as we don't often post trials of individuals aside from major world leaders. The Kip (contribs) 07:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al., linking the article. Gotitbro (talk) 09:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality and on notability yet another case of corruption of a local personality. _-_Alsor (talk) 07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose We seem to have a rash of indictments and warrants lately. Per WP:SUSPECT, "A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations, arrests and charges do not amount to a conviction." Andrew🐉(talk) 09:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose posting this as if he were found guilty violates WP:SUSPECT. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. Who is this guy? BilboBeggins (talk) 10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There are lots of reasons why this isn't suitable for ITN. The case article - which should be the bold link - is a stub. This is a domestic case involving a private individual, very different from the ICC seeking a national leader. The case itself does not seem particularly significant, there are fraud and corruption trials all the time. The blurb is misleading, because it incorrectly implies Indian prosecutors, and isn't NPOV. Modest Genius talk 12:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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(Posted) New Lithuanian PM

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Article: Gintautas Paluckas (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Gintautas Paluckas is elected by the Seimas as the new Prime Minister of Lithuania. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Following parliamentary elections, Gintautas Paluckas is elected by the Seimas as the new Prime Minister of Lithuania.
News source(s): [6][7]
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITN/R applies as the PM administers the executive branch (per here, and the posting of his predecessor), and since Paluckas was not previously mentioned in ITN. The results of the 2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election were posted from November 1st to 2nd, but that blurb mentioned Vilija Blinkevičiūtė as the leader of the winning party, and she unexpectedly chose not to become PM. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment: The blurb should get a link to 2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election, also that would satisfy ITN/R better. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 04:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Target articles seem to be of adequate quality. Propose altblurb incorporating election article. The Kip (contribs) 07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: Seems fair enough and ready. Elios Peredhel (talk) 08:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Note After clarifying the issue on the talk page, I just want to point out that he is not technically the PM at the moment. He will officially become PM once his cabinet is finalized, probably in December. I don't think it's a big deal as a lot of changes in political office don't take effect immediately, and this is the stage in the process at which his predecessor was posted to ITN anyway. If we do want to delay it until he is officially the PM, I'm fine with that. If not, perhaps changing the word "new" to "next" in the blurb would better suit his status, although even the Lithuanian public broadcaster doesn't do that or make much of a distinction. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 09:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
FYI: Trump was posted as soon as he was called the winner of the US elections even though he wont take office until January. Prodrummer619 (talk) 11:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. We should post announcement now. BilboBeggins (talk) 10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support alt blurb : Incorporates both election and his article as it seems PM is not directly elected by people in Lithuania, also he is still not the PM (blurb says he's just elected) and cabinet comes from elected officials. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 13:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support no problems quality wise, ITN/R. Scuba 16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support and preferred altblurb. @Admins willing to post ITN: can this be posted as we seem to have consensus? Abcmaxx (talk) 15:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted with altblurb. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jodi Rell

Article: Jodi Rell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Connecticut governor; death announced 21 November. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

(Decision needed) Bolsonaro indicted

Article: 2022 Brazilian coup plot (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Jair Bolsonaro and 36 others are indicted by Brazilian police for their roles in the attempt to overthrow the 2022 election, including the attempted assassination of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Jair Bolsonaro and 36 others are formally accused by Brazilian police for their roles in the attempt to overthrow the 2022 election, including the attempted assassination of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.
News source(s): CNN [AP News]
Credits:

Article needs updating

 Masem (t) 22:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Strong support The fact that Bolsonaro is linked with an attempt to assassinate Lula is notable enough. The indictment is very ITN worthy. The article looks good too aside from two cn tags in the Timeline section (not sure if that section itself needs and expansion). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Note I don't see the indictments added yet. Masem (t) 22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Added a paragraph about it and a sentence to the lead. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • The article does not seem to be updated with the information about the indictments. Natg 19 (talk) 22:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Added some updates. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Strong support on notability - Brazil's equivalent of Trump's indictment(s). No reason this should be treated any different... except maybe on quality, which I've no comment. Departure– (talk) 01:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Support A former world leader is being prosecuted from overthrowing democracy is definitely newsworthy. Rager7 (talk) 22:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
WP:SOAP thread — Knightoftheswords 13:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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Oppose seeing as how Lula got out of prison based on the political whims of a judge and then ran for president again this doesn't really mean anything. Scuba 01:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
WP:SOAP. The Kip (contribs) 07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Lula was sentenced by the same judge who would serve in the Cabinet of Jair Bolsonaro, if political bias has to be talked about at all. None of this is relevant to whether Bolsonaro's indictment is notable or not; it is and we posted the Lula developments back then as well. Personal judgments of political assesments by editors aside. Gotitbro (talk) 07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Highly noteworthy development in the attempted overthrow of democracy. Will be interesting to see if the matter is actually prosecuted properly and justice served unlike what happened in the US with Trump free to run again despite his attempt to overthrow democracy. AusLondonder (talk) 04:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: Of immense notability, and article, especially this particular event, are well cited. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 04:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Former President indicted on serious charges is bigly news. Harizotoh9 (talk) 05:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: Internationally noteworthy and quality articles. Aneirinn (talk) 06:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per Departure. The Kip (contribs) 07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Support While this was only the first of Bolsonaro's coup attempts (followed by 2022–2023 Brazilian election protests, 2023 Brazilian Congress attack), he is more significantly involved here than the others and likely the only event he is to be charged for. Gotitbro (talk) 07:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Support - Former major world leader has been indicted in criminal court, due one of the most significant events in recent Brazilian history. Very notable. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Support, major political event. BilboBeggins (talk) 10:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The blurb and the article falsely tell us that the police have indicted Bolsonaro. In fact, the decision to indict lies with prosecutors, who have not yet made that decision. As per the NYT article cited in the Wikipedia article: "Brazil’s federal police urged prosecutors to charge Mr. Bolsonaro and three dozen others (...) Federal prosecutors have still not decided whether to pursue charges in any of these cases". Sandstein 10:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Sandstein's good point and WP:SUSPECT. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per Gotitbro and WP:SUSPECT. SerialNumber54129 12:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose/Wait per Sandstein on account of the blurb not being factually accurate. These indictments are likely still forthcoming. I think blurb posting on this topic should wait until that time. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. We need to get the wording right per the above, but this is the official report of a long police investigation, which is a major story in and of itself. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb Prosecutors have clarified that although they will indict, it will take time to proceed to that next stage for logistical reasons: see here. However, I think this is ITN now, and so posting now (when coverage is high) is appropriate. It would be different if the prosecutor hadn't yet decided on an indictment: he WILL certainly be indicted, just after the Holidays. As such, I have proposed an altblurb which uses modified language. FlipandFlopped 22:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support unusual occurrence and we have previously posted similar events concerning heads of state (e.g. jailing of Frank Bainimarama). @Admins willing to post ITN: do we have consensus here? Abcmaxx (talk) 15:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as we post convictions, not indictments, per WP:BLPCRIME. Posting Trump’s indictment was a mistake, so it’s better to not make it once again.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
    I tend to agree in principle re: BLPCRIME, but I think for heads of state the indictment itself is notable (for Trump as well as the Netanyahu/Gallant arrest warrants currently posted to the Main Page). DecafPotato (talk) 22:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Kiril Simeonovski The AP (talk) 16:28, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) ICC arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, and Mohammed Deif

Article: International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas leader Mohammed Deif in its investigation of war crimes in Palestine. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: We previously posted warrants being issued for Muammar Gaddafi and Omar Bashir and Vladimir Putin nableezy - 13:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Support Since the arrest warrants of Putin and others' were posted, I think this should be posted too as it is about a incumbent Prime Minister. LiamKorda 14:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Strong support on notability, arrest warrants against world leaders have been posted before. Weak oppose on quality, the article isn't updated to where I think it should be to be posted. Besides that, otherwise it's well sourced. Departure– (talk) 14:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support This will severely limit the travel options for the wanted persons. Grimes2 (talk) 14:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support We did post the warrant for Putin, this precedentially follows. Gotitbro (talk) 14:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support front page news, so meets WP:ITNSIGNIF. Would be good to add more to the section of the article about the warrants, but there's about enough to just about WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support - Support on significance and precedent. I think the quality could be better but not quite to the point where it should stop this from being posted. mike_gigs talkcontribs 14:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Arrest warrants against world leaders are very rare i think Bakhos2010 (talk) 15:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support as per Departure–. Suggest blurb is in present tense. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Important development, rare event, and per ITN precedent. The article is detailed and well-referenced; I find its organisation quite confusing and the update isn't great, but it provides the facts of the case and is in good enough shape to post. Modest Genius talk 15:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support on notability as there is precedent that an international arrest warrant for an incumbent leader is notable, and on quality per Modest Genius above.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 15:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment - an article has been made at International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures. It's not protected yet, nor is it ITN quality, but it should be made the target. Departure– (talk) 15:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Absolutely no need for a separate article for the issuing of arrest warrants. It would have been far better to have an expansion of the ICC case. — Masem (t) 19:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Support per norm. Scuba 16:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment It would be good if we could get the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti posted now given clear consensus in favour. AusLondonder (talk) 16:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Wrong section? nableezy - 16:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Oops yeah, was intending to comment below. For clarity, Support posting this, too. AusLondonder (talk) 16:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong support per nom. Article looks good. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support the general event being posted on notability. I would prefer the target being the International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures article though, which I believe has been brought up to a reasonable level of quality by now. Liu1126 (talk) 17:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted. I used the main article, since it wasn't really discussed if the sub-article should be used instead, and there's an obvious titling/scope issue with it. I used an image of Netanyahu and an additional use of "Israeli" per the choices used for the Russian ones in 2023. [8] These can all be changed if necessary. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment. Mohammed Deif is dead. What would his arrest warrant even mean in this case? 104.171.53.110 (talk) 19:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Our article explains that it's because neither Hamas nor independent sources have confirmed his death, so the ICC cannot determine if he is dead and decided to issue in case he is alive. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) Israel claims to have killed him in July, Hamas claims he's still alive. The ICC has been unable to determine either way, so issued the warrant. Regardless of whether you think either claim is tenable, or if any of these people will be arrested, the blurb is factually correct in stating that the court has issued a warrant. Modest Genius talk 20:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    @Patar knight: would you be amenable to adding the phrase "allegedly killed" or something similar next to Deif's name for clarity (so it'd read "allegedly killed Hamas leader Mohammed Deif")? Dan the Animator 07:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    The claims of Deif's death are weaker than our article suggests. Further phrasing appears unwarranted. Gotitbro (talk) 09:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    Gotitbro, makes sense but I think the claims could still add important context (e.g. the fact that there are legitimate questions regarding his death suggests he is missing/hiding and thus the warrant won't have any immediate effects on him, unlike Bibi & Gallant who have generally been going about their lives). I'm open to other phrasing but I still think it's an important thing to add for context/clarity. Usually also the blurb is supposed to based on the article and the article in this case talks more about the warrant's effects on Israeli officials so I think it's helpful to readers to reflect this dynamic/disequilibrium in impact in the blurb. Open to other ideas though and thanks for the reply, Dan the Animator 16:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    I think this is too much detail to get into for a blurb. A warrant was issued and the relevant part of the article explains the ICC's reasoning for issuing the warrant for Deif. If you have reliable sources that discuss the practical effects of the warrants, I would suggest adding to the article. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    Fair enough. I still think adding two words to some effect would be rather helpful but I don't feel too strongly about it so it's alright. Many thanks for the replies! :) Dan the Animator 04:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 Laos methanol poisoning

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Article: 2024 Laos methanol poisoning (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Four tourists are dead and ten others injured from a suspected methanol poisoning in Laos. (Post)
News source(s): The AgeGuardian
Credits:
 GMH Melbourne (talk) 12:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Sources ok, size ok. Terrible event. Grimes2 (talk) 12:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Terrible event, yes, but there's not a high number of fatalities, and the fact that they are tourists does not make it more notorious or more special.
_-_Alsor (talk) 12:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Note that unfortunately the death toll is likely to rise as there are a number of people on life support. GMH Melbourne (talk) 13:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Seems like mostly a small domestic crime issue (if it was an intended crime), and given the number of List of methanol poisoning incidents, such events are not uncommon around the world. --Masem (t) 13:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Clearly an isolated domestic crime/food safety incident with limited effect.廣九直通車 (talk) 13:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Note also, that there are victims in Australia, New Zealand, the US, Denmark, UK, and Laos, with the news being reported by organisations around the world. GMH Melbourne (talk) 13:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Unfortunate event but death toll is low and seems to be more of a local news event. LiamKorda 14:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on notability. This seems to be an incident of food poisoning the likes of which we've seen numerous times and are likely to see again. Not nearly as widespread or otherwise impactful as a contamination event should be to get posted; this seems to be restricted to a single hotel in Vang Vieng. Weak oppose on quality at the moment. Also, this nomination may be stale as the fatalities happened on 13 November, and this is likely to roll off the news cycle and ITN as a whole before notability gets demonstrated and quality improves. The oldest blurb is Justin Welby's resignation from 12 November. Departure– (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Tragic event, but accidents that cause four fatalities are sadly quite common. Even methanol poisoning isn't that unusual, see list of methanol poisoning incidents - and those are just the incidents that received media coverage and editor attention. The nationality of the victims has attracted media attention, but shouldn't affect our judgement of significance. I see no reason to treat this any differently than a traffic collision that caused four deaths, which would never be an ITN blurb. Modest Genius talk 15:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose routine accident/crime. not ITN worthy despite the tragedy. Scuba 16:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Ursula Haverbeck

Article: Ursula Haverbeck (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, DW, JTA
Credits:

Article updated
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 Count Iblis (talk) 10:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment Its difficult to find sources for the statements of Haverbeck, because Holocaust denial is illegal in several countries. Impossible to post in RD. Grimes2 (talk) 15:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Prescott

Article: John Prescott (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former deputy PM of the UK. A few additional sources needed but it's not in terrible shape.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Support: Lead paragraph has a citation needed flag, otherwise article is in overall good quality. Tofusaurus (talk) 12:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Slow day, huh? Weak oppose - updated for the death but has a few CN tags - there's another in the article's body on a negative claim about Prescott that really should be sourced or removed. Departure– (talk) 15:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support I've cleaned up the tags and added a few extra cites. Well written and sourced now for the man they called "Two Jags". The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 15:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support. The article is extensive and has a lot of citations, but it's very dry prose and hardly a riveting read. There are classic WP:PROSELINE problems, a lack of images, and it often (particularly in the 'life after parliament section) feels like a random collection of factoids rather than a coherent biography. Still, those are stylistic issues that don't actually violate our criteria. Could do better, but good enough to post. Modest Genius talk 19:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. In good enough enough shape, despite stylistic concerns. - SchroCat (talk) 19:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Support The article is good enough, except the one yellow tag. Rynoip (talk) 00:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Support article isn't perfect but I think it is good enough. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 00:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose I've added a few more CN TAGS because there are numerous unsourced lines. The article is not perfect, but it should be close. It is not ready to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    • Support There is still a CN TAG to be fixed, but it does not prevent from being posted. Avanti. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose till  [citation needed] are not fixed. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 13:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, per Alsoriano97 and ExclusiveEditor, who are now glad that they too can offer their fulsome support for this {{cn}}-less article. SerialNumber54129 13:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Marking this as ready and changing my vote per above. Departure– (talk) 13:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Admins willing to post ITN: looks to be ready. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) 2024 Somaliland presidential election

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Article: 2024 Somaliland presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Opposition candidate Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi "Irro" (pictured) is confirmed to have won the 2024 Somaliland presidential election, beating incumbent President Muse Bihi Abdi. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi is elected President of Somaliland.
News source(s): [11][12][13]
Credits:

 Subayerboombastic (talk) 05:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Comment: Somaliland is not fully internationally recognized as a sovereign state. Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Nor is Taiwan, but both are de facto independent and functioning democracies. I'm undecided whether that is sufficient to post, but it certainly isn't a clear-cut case. Modest Genius talk 12:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
The argument for posting about elections in the Republic of China is entirely different than posting about elections in breakaway separatist republics. Scuba 16:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Isn't Taiwan a breakaway rebel province (PRC view) or the legitimate government (ROC view)? Howard the Duck (talk) 01:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Taiwan is much more recognized than Somaliland though. Harizotoh9 (talk) 13:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose we don't post election results for unrecognized states like Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia (whose government was toppled 3 days ago). Scuba 16:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
WP:NOTFORUM. The Kip (contribs) 01:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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@Scu ba: Apples and pears, Somaliland isn't a puppet state propped up by a globe-threatening dictatorship. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
True, it's just propped up by a region threatening dictatorship. Scuba 16:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Support ITN has posted election results from the SADR (Seems I misremembered? Regardless, the distinction for which nation we deem fine and not is quite arbitrary. Somaliland functions as a state with its own independent elections, it is not a micronation or an autonomous region in its current de facto state) and even subnational entities so I would say this is fine. I'm glad someone was able to nominate this, I intended to originally regardless. A change in government too, which is notable. The article looks fine to me. Ornithoptera (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment: For the record, the 2021 Somaliland parliamentary election was not only nominated but also made it to the very top of the front page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/June_2021 check June 6. Yes Somaliland is Unrecognized, but it is a fully functioning democracy same as Taiwan. In the past its articles have been featured and now should be no different. Somaliland is a free standing de facto state and articles from less independent states have been featured before, such as North Cyprus. Main point being there is precedent from their election in 2021 that they can be featured so I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be. Subayerboombastic (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Not ITNR, but there is also is no hard rule against posting. We have posted Somaliland election results before. This one is particularly notable because it represents a major change - such a major change, in fact, that there are articles in reputable sources saying it may lead to Donald Trump's administration recognizing Somaliland as a state. All in all, it is drumming up news coverage and has broader ramifications in international geopolitics. FlipandFlopped 22:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per above, and propose altblurb. The Kip (contribs) 03:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. We look at unrecognized states on a case by case basis. They are not automatically bound. Here it looks like it has geopolitical considerations as well as being a change of a longtime governing party. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Somaliland is a de facto long-standing independent state just like any other, the only exception is that other countries have no interest in recognising them (in some cases it would be against their own interest to do so). Unlike some other examples, it's not a puppet state nor just some rogue separatists controlling a territory. The closest example would be Taiwan, although the geo-political situation and involvement of world powers is very different. I would even propose to make it ITN/R. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • @Admins willing to post ITN: don't want this to become stale, can someone take a look at this? 5:1 ratio and both perspectives have made arguments clear. FlipandFlopped 16:24, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Support as per Modest Genius. Recognition isn't necessary for the election results to be significant enough for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Seems like there is consensus to post; however the prose update in the results section is too short. SpencerT•C 04:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    I exapanded this a little by the way Abcmaxx (talk) 19:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per aboveKowal2701 (talk) 17:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted without the nickname or opponent. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Diane Coleman

Article: Diane Coleman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American lawyer and disability rights advocate. Died on Nov 1. First reported November 19 here: National Council on Disablity 2024TJMSmith (talk) 03:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Support Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 17:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 07:05, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

(Withdrawn) Undersea cables incident

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Article: Transatlantic cables incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Royal Danish Navy detains a Chinese vessel in the first enforcement action since 1959 of the Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables. (Post)
News source(s): [14]
Credits:

Article updated
 Nominator's comment: I threw this article on the 1959 incident together a few minutes ago after news of the Danish intervention broke; I believe it's in good shape but apologies for any errors or omissions due to haste Chetsford (talk) 00:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Strong oppose for now - the target should be 2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions or ideally Yi Peng 3, the ship detained. If something is conclusively proven and charged in a court of law or any escalations or developments to any of the numerous wars going on worldwide come of this, maybe I'll support, but for now it's equivalent to a marginally important arrest of a private individual and therefore not ITN-worthy. Departure– (talk) 01:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Withdraw as nom My apologies, I wasn't aware we had a 2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions article at all. Thanks to Departure– for pointing this out. Chetsford (talk) 01:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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(Requesting review) RD: Tony Campolo

Article: Tony Campolo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MSN
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American sociologist and Baptist pastor. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Support: Article looks good. No obvious gaps in references; If anyone observes any gaps, please point them out and we can get them addressed. KConWiki (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. there is a quote that needs a citation, but the article is otherwise in good shape. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 21:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    • What specifically is the concern you allude to? KConWiki (talk) 22:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
      There is like two sentences thats uncited in the article. Rynoip (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Support Article looks good. Except for like two sentences all other sections are cited well. Rynoip (talk) 22:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: If people with concerns about missing citations can put up CN tags or give which specific areas are of concern, I will be happy to attempt to resolve them. Thanks KConWiki (talk) 00:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Thanks. I have had some issues with power outages and thus lack of reliable internet, so I will do that. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Not the strongest of supports because there is still some referencing work I would like to see happen, but not a dealbreaker for ITN. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 04:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • A whole load of unreferenced works. Stephen 07:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah, typically would want ISBNs or similar or citations. —Bagumba (talk) 13:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
    • I will work on ISBNs today - KConWiki (talk) 14:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Commment: I now have gone through the entire published works section, removed a couple of duplicates, provided ISBNs for all listed works, and provided either Internet Archive or else Google Books links for almost all listed works. Anyone who would care to review and comment, please feel free. Are there any other areas of concern? Thanks to all - KConWiki (talk) 21:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Not ready I've had a look and date and place of birth are unreferenced. Schwede66 20:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
    • Comment: Thanks for that observation - I have now covered both birthdate and birthplace with the recent NYT obituary - KConWiki (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

(Admin attention needed) Hīkoi mō te Tiriti

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Article: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti arrives at New Zealand's Parliament with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest bill that would reform the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Māori rights. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti (pictured) arrives as the largest protest in the country's history at New Zealand's Parliament, protesting the bill that would reform the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Māori rights.
Alternative blurb II: ​ New Zealand witnesses the largest protest (pictured) in its history in response to a proposed bill that would reinterpret the Treaty of Waitangi.
Alternative blurb III: ​ New Zealand witnesses the largest protest (pictured) in its history in response to a proposed bill that would reform the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ New Zealand witnesses one of the largest protests (pictured) in its history in response to a proposed bill that would reform the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi.
News source(s): 1news.co.nz
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  • Small country not used to seeing large marches, first nation issues, covered internationally and with long term effects. SerialNumber54129 16:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment The protest has broad support by Pākehā (non-Māori), hence the blurb isn't quite right. Schwede66 18:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    Thanks Schwede66, blurb now tweaked. SerialNumber54129 18:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    Sorry, I still don't like the blurb and have posted an altblurb for consideration. Schwede66 04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Massive international coverage, largest protests in New Zealand for a long time. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Suppport, though the blurb is inaccurate, proponents of the bill also argue it will redefine the principles, that's the point of the legislation. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 19:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    @TheLoyalOrder: Tweaked. Note it was taken directly from your original lead ;) SerialNumber54129 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Per above Rynoip (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak support Plenty of coverage and it's a nationwide protest with over 30,000 in attendance in Wellington alone after all. The lede could be expanded, though. Departure– (talk) 20:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    Lead expanded. SerialNumber54129 20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose as stale. These protests began on 10 November, and it has been 9 days since then. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 21:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    The protests are in their final day as they reach Wellington and Parliament today. Departure– (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    @Red-tailed hawk: Hello. The marches stated nine days ago relatively small. They garnered very little attention then, naturally, because of their size. This is the climax. ITN shows the Oscars, not the date the invites go out. SerialNumber54129 22:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Maybe put occurs across New Zealand earlier, followed by against .... Kowal2701 (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    occurs across New Zealand is a bit too broad, the hikoi started in Auckland and made its way down to Wellington. This all happened in the North Island, maybe occurs in major cities in the North Island of New Zealand Rynoip (talk) 23:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    Not true. The marches started in various places, in both the North and South islands. They all came together in Wellington. Schwede66 08:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Clarified N. Island. SerialNumber54129 00:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    could do something like: Hīkoi mō te Tiriti arrives at New Zealand's Parliament with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest bill that would reform the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi amid fears it would reduce Māori rights TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Article is of sufficient quality and notability for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Fairly minor in scope as far as protests go. Nsk92 (talk) 01:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    its one of the biggest (possibly the biggest) protests in New Zealand history TheLoyalOrder (talk) 01:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppsee Relatively peaceful compared to other protests, nor yet to shown as impactful (eg like the past India's farmer strike that actually impacted commerce in the country). --Masem (t) 01:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Protests don't have to be violent to be meaningful and impactful. AusLondonder (talk) 19:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    There are protests nearly happening every day around the world. We have no room to cover them all, so we need to look at scale and impact. This specific protest lack either (particularly after it appear no laws will be changed) Masem (t) 20:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support the hīkoi is seven times the size of the notable 1975 Land March led by Dame Whina Cooper. Videos of MP Hana-Rwhiti Maipi-Clarke's haka in Parliament on the 14th, relevant to the hīkoi and the Treaty Priniciples Bill are already viral and in global news cycles. Ladygeekiness (talk) 01:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Link to Māori land march article for context. Schwede66 08:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support I disagree it's minor, it has made all major news outlets around the world even in non-anglophone countries, which usually pay very little attention to New Zealand and even less so to Maori issues. The lack of violence should not be a factor on notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    The barrier for inclusion in major news outlets is extremely low. That should not be used as a judgement of significance, because news reports events big and small. Masem (t) 13:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    That applies to domestic news though, if this protest was not notable nor impactful it would not have gathered so much global attention. Plenty of genuinely important news does not get reported either it's a double-edged sword anyway. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose It appears that the bill is unlikely to become law anyway and so there’s little impact. Such demonstrations and protests are common — for example, there was a big farmers’ protest in London on this day. This one doesn’t seem sufficiently significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose A run-of-the-mill, peaceful protest against a bill the NZ government has said it will not back coming into law. No different from the Farmer protests here in the UK at the moment. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Absolutely notable, and rare significant news from that corner of the globe. Comparisons to other countries of course run afoul of WP:ITNATA. Duly signed, WaltClipper
  • Comment - I'm utterly befuddled by the rationales used to oppose this item so far. One rationale implies that because there wasn't any violence or killing, it isn't notable; another says that because the journey across country took nine days, that it's technically outside the news cycle; and another is speculating that the bill won't become law anyway so there's no point in protesting. Much of this doesn't have any bearing on the actual significance of the item. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support We posted the 2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum, this is perhaps even more significant in that it signals a rollback of already agreed upon law and rights. CRYSTALBALLing aside, about whether this may or may not pass, the protests have to be seen in the context of New Zealand politics where these are important (largest ever?) and a significant point in the country's and Maori history. Gotitbro (talk) 14:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    The difference is the referendum was just that, a referendum with 15,739,686 votes. These are protests 82,000 strong (and that's being generous) in a country of 5.22 Million. Scuba 16:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
A meaningless comparison. Voting in a referendum in Australia is compulsory. All the NZ protesters are there by choice. HiLo48 (talk) 01:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • That's 1.58% then. For comparison, someone above made a curious (and frankly nonsensical) argument that it's the same as a march of 13,000 people out of a population of 65,000,000... or .02% *facepalm* Tight faded male arse. Decadence and anarchy. A certain style. Smile. 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Yeah that's nonsense, the farmer's protest in the UK shouldn't be posted either and if someone nominates it I will vote oppose there too. Scuba 17:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose protests aren't large enough to warrant posting. Any argument to the contrary is just a pro-Western bias. Comparing these protests to the 2024 Armenian protests for example, which had 20,000 protesters in a country of 3,000,000, several hundred arrests, and called for a regime change, the verdict of ITN was that it wasn't notable enough to post. These protests are 82,000 in a country of 5,200,000 and are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others.
It would be a heinous double standard if we post this to ITN. Scuba 17:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • These protests...are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others is a ridiculous and cynical misrepresentation of what the protests are about. AusLondonder (talk) 19:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    So you don't believe that The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders nor that All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties? Bold of you I guess. Scuba 21:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Scu ba, things are a bit more nuanced than what you make out. Maybe it's best to not argue the finer details that are hard to understand when you don't live here. Schwede66 07:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Ah yes, I forgot that you have to live in the country that the ITN/C event is taking place in in order to vote on its inclusion. Scuba 16:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Well your POV is very clear on this one. 13:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC) Secretlondon (talk) 13:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
    How is it ridiculous and cynical? It is precisely what it is. Rynoip (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    82000 in 5200000 is about 1.6% of the country. How is that not large enough to be significant? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    For comparison, an equivalently-sized protest in the United states would be 5.5 million people. Turnagra (talk) 17:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    The 2017 Women's March was posted the day after it happened, with an attendance between 3 and roughly 4.5 million. Departure– (talk) 18:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    The Armenian protests are neither the largest there, and when seen in context of recent Armenian history, nor unique. 6 protests are registered at Protests in Armenia in relation to the current PM Nikol Pashinyan and these were the fourth regular one in the context of the current phase of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict (whose last flare-up, 2023 Azerbaijani offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh, we posted); preceded by 2020–2021 Armenian protests, 2022 Armenian protests, 2023 Armenian protests. I think why these might not be seen as notable is evident.
    Calling the protests, which are against a minor political party's efforts to re-interpret or rather rollback the Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi (already seen as inadequate for indigenous rights in New Zealand), preservation of special treatment is rather disingenous. The view that the bill seeks to enable resource exploitation in indigenous lands without having to specifically consult those people has more currency than any purported equal treatment of the citizens of New Zealand. Gotitbro (talk) 08:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    What? Do you not support equal rights for all kiwis? indigenous lands without having to specifically consult those people is a bit fake considering the bill is to make all kiwis equal without special rights or privileges. Rynoip (talk) 20:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support largest protest that New Zealand has ever seen and has been covered extensively in major news sources across the world - the event is absolutely notable enough to post. The article itself is extensive and well-sourced, and easily of the quality we would want for a front page feature. Turnagra (talk) 17:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support as per other editors. Largest protest in New Zealand's history sounds like something we should post, and it has even made it into German news. Both blurbs are very long however, and a bit arcane. Simpler and shorter blurb proposed. Khuft (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It's in the news and has attracted worldwide attention. ITN shouldn't ignore genuine news from smaller countries. Second blurb sounds better but would be open to other suggestions. AusLondonder (talk) 19:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment It would be good if we could get the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti posted now given clear consensus in favour. AusLondonder (talk) 16:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    Thanks, AusLondonder. I've developed ALT3 based on your blurb and my previous ALT1. Schwede66 20:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Support per @AusLondonder, eyes are on New Zealand especially in part due to Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke's actions. TansoShoshen (talk) 06:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't think we can call it the "largest protest" in the country's history because The Spinoff source in the article merely estimated it as being the largest, and described the difficulty in knowing for sure. The BBC described it as "one of the biggest" rather than "the biggest", so I think the blurb should reflect this. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    The largest protests in NZ were about the 1981 Springbok tour and involved over 150,000 people, which is more than this protest. See NZ history. And then there were events like the 1913 Great Strike when the population was much smaller. What we've got here is hype and WP:RECENTISM. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
    Note that the 150,000 protesters are the sum of the 200 protests in relation to the 1981 Springbok tour. None of them individually were anywhere near as big as the 42,000 people who were protesting in Wellington on Tuesday, as estimated by the Police. Schwede66 07:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    If we are going to say that the protest against the treaty is the largest in NZ history, as alt blurbs 2 and 3 do, this needs to be backed up by a claim in the article with a verifiable citation from a reliable source. The article Hīkoi mō te Tiriti currently cites a writer for The Spinoff who "estimated it was the largest protest Wellington had ever seen, potentially the largest in New Zealand's history." The last part is hedged.
    With this in mind, I would say that:
    • The original blurb, omitting any comparisons, is fine.
    • Alt blurb 1 may be okay but it depends on how you parse it. If you parse it as "largest (protest in the country's history at New Zealand's Parliament)" then it's fine, as The Spinoff makes this exact claim very confidently. If you parse it "(largest protest in the country's history) at New Zealand's Parliament", which I think is the intended and more natural parsing, then it's problematic.
    • Alt blurbs 2 and 3 are not adequately supported by existing sources or the article text, and even though they may be true, verifiability is the most important criterion to judge them by.
    • Alt blurb 4, which uses the wording "one of the largest protests" (mirroring the BBC), is fine.
    • I might also propose something like "New Zealand witnesses the largest protest in its capital's [or: its parliament's] history...". That would be less ambiguously parsed than alt blurb 1.
    Note that the issue isn't even just about comparing head counts of a single protest vs. multiple protests aggregated. The article in The Spinoff mentions a possible 2010 protest with 80,000 people in Auckland, and although the author states that the 80K figure is "hard to prove", and even claims that the current protest is "probably" the biggest single-location NZ protest, that uncertainty may be enough of a reason to avoid outright making the claim that alt blurbs 2-3 (and 1 if you parse it the obvious way) do. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 11:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    The protests you mentioned were against apartheid in South Africa, which is the single largest political matter in its modern history and which involved widespread international pressure, not just from New Zealand. If that's your comparison point, then I think this protest is doing well for significance. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 13:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Per Masem. Thriley (talk) 05:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Sorry, this is a rather long post. Unlike Masem, I suggest that this is a rather impactful protest. The situation reminds me of the 2004 foreshore and seabed situation; when that unfolded, I thought it was a super-big mistake by Helen Clark's Labour government. They did survive the 2005 general election, but the resentment was deep-seated enough that they didn't get through in 2008. This feels much the same; this time for Christopher Luxon's National government. In August, former PM John Key gave the current PM what I felt was a public telling off in his typical style (one of Key's nicknames is the "smiling assassin", i.e. he smiles while he's telling you off). And Newshub's chief political journalist explained yesterday that it's going to be a problem for Luxon for months to come: "This will still be going on at the start of the [next] year and the political calendar is traditionally kicked off with a number of Māori events. That is a problem for Christopher Luxon not to have it voted down by then, not to have it neutered." By the time this is over, it will have inflicted a lot of damage on the government, possibly enough that they don't survive the next election. Schwede66 08:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    As this is a perennial issue which is going to keep rumbling on, why don't we wait until we get a clear impact such as the passing/withdrawal of the bill or an election result? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    I agree with Andrew🐉: it is probably wiser to post to ITN once the bill is voted on, as that is when there will be a clearer impact. However, when that happens, the protests are still important context to include in the ITN blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    The Bill got voted through its first reading last week, the hīkoi was partially in response to this. Turnagra (talk) 17:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
    The bill will get its second reading in six months. This is in the news now, based on the first reading. Schwede66 18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Quite a significant protest with international news attention and also in relation to size. The protest is the story here, since the coalition partners have pledged to vote the bill down after the committee stage at furher reaadings, so it will almost certainly die out.-- Patar knight - chat/contributions 13:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Support These protests are getting worldwide attention and seems to having a quite impact on the native country. LiamKorda 14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Masem. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This is a big deal in New Zealand, but lacks long-term or wider significance. No legal change has occurred and a majority of parties have indicated that they will oppose the bill. In the end this is just a bit of domestic politics, letting a minor coalition party introduce something controversial purely so it can be demonstrated how unpopular it is. If the Treaty of Waitanga was repealed then that might be suitable for ITN, some peaceful protests against a bill that has no chance of becoming law is not. Once the bill is defeated the protests will quickly be forgotten. Modest Genius talk 17:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - we posted the protests in Israel against the judicial reform for example, and that never got implemented either. One of the, if not the, largest peaceful protest in the history of a country, one that is widely covered across the globe, merits posting. nableezy - 17:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support, per nableezy, who puts it quite well. Due to their national scale and international coverage, as well as the lasting effects on the Indigenous rights discourse within New Zealand, I would say it's blurb worthy. Ornithoptera (talk) 18:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support it is already one of the most significant events in New Zealand political history, just by the sheer scale of the public participation. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 20:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support It is getting widespread international coverage, which makes it rise above "mere domestic politics" as implied above. And even if it was not widespread and international in nature, being "domestic" does not make it ITN worthy, so this argument is redundant. Widespread international coverage + major domestic coverage and recordbreaking levels of domestic political participation + lasting impact on Crown-Indigenous relations in New Zealand = suitable for ITN. FlipandFlopped 22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment There are 20 votes in favour and 9 votes opposed – a 2:1 ratio in favour. Both perspectives have hashed out their arguments with reasons. The general ratio is in favour and this will likely not dramatically shift, nor will new arguments emerge. As such, I have marked this nom as ready for an admin decision. FlipandFlopped 22:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support An enormous protest for Indigenous rights that is drawing international attention. -TenorTwelve (talk) 10:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. SerialNumber54129 11:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment I want to note that this article has only 4,475 views since it was created four days ago. Thriley (talk) 16:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Thriley, that is because people who hear about it in the news are not likely to correctly remember or spell the name of the protest movement (it being "Hīkoi mō te Tiriti"). The general wikipedia page for Māori people went from in the vicinity of 3,000 views per day to over 300,000 total views from November 10 (first day of protests) to present. The article for the Treaty Principles Bill also rose to 100,000 views during that same period, from essentially almost zero prior to the protest beginning. These additional page view stats paint a clearer picture that there has been a surge in interest and coverage. So, just looking at that one stat in isolation is very misleading. FlipandFlopped 21:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Support posting Article quality and significance both seem sufficient, and it would be nice to post this before it's too late. As I wrote above in a reply, I prefer alt blurb 4 because the article and its sources don't adequately back up the claim of it being the very largest protest in the NZ history, though that claim is plausible. The original blurb avoids that issue but creates another: pinning down an estimated number of protestors. The 60,000 figure doesn't seem to be consistent with the numbers the article infobox uses anyway, i.e. >82,000 across the country and 42,000 specifically in Wellington/at parliament. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 04:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Hong Kong 47

Article: Hong Kong 47 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: 45 pro-democracy activists and politicians are sentenced under the Chinese law on Hong Kong national security as a results of participation in the 2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: lagrest trial under the HK national security law.-Manchiu (talk) 13:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Wait Tables are not fully filled. Aftermath section is not added yet. Besides, many activists are jailed every year, although this is significant in terms of the number of activists jailed, I don't think we should be giving special consideration to this incident. TNM101 (chat) 14:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
This more than "activists getting jailed", but is a greater geo-political issue of the erosion of democratic norms in Hong Kong. Natg 19 (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose though this court case is notable, we are now in the sentencing phase, which is not as notable. The time to post this would have been in 2021 when the activists were arrested and charged. Natg 19 (talk) 16:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
On second thought, if we did not post this before, it would be fine to post this now. However, the article still needs improvement. Natg 19 (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Support Article quality is now good, although the aftermath section could use some expansion. Rynoip (talk) 19:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Strong oppose on quality - The article hardly seems updated following sentencing. While it is in the article, it's not nearly enough prose to (in my eyes) justify an ITN blurb. Support on notability. Departure– (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support: The article is notable and looks good. Till somebody opposing on quality doesn't put forth on what point is the quality going wrong, I don't see anything wrong. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 20:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support Quality looks good and this is getting worldwide news attention, its certainly a notable news story to see democracy and free speech being sadly eroded in Hong Kong. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support - Looks alright. Also, when it comes to the current blurbs, the last one about the election is Mauritius is so old, even the winner has long forgot about it... Maybe add something more fresh, like this? 51.154.145.205 (talk) 13:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment The democracy movement effectively stopped in Hong Kong in 2020 when the protests were supressed. And while important in the context of those protests, I am not sure if this is an inflection point in the history of the protests or the movement itself. Gotitbro (talk) 15:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support dystopian clampdown by the Chinese government, Also article is of high quality. Scuba 17:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 18:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa

Article: Shuntarō Tanikawa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Japan Times
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Japanese poet. His death announced on this day. 240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288 (talk) 05:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose on article quality, i'd say add detail on what's listed on bro's greatest work, "Two Billion Light Years of Solitude (1952)". Also, if this article doesn't get approved soon, it may risk becoming stale as bro passed on november 13. BlondArkhangel (talk) 13:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Two citation needed tags. Awards section has no sources. Secretlondon (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Now five citation needed tags and twice orange-tagged. Schwede66 18:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality Multiple tags TNM101 (chat) 13:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Colin Petersen

Article: Colin Petersen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deccan Herald
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian drummer for the Bee GeesOllieisanerd (talkcontribs) 17:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Some citations needed, and uncited paragraphs. Secretlondon (talk) 23:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Love

Article: Bob Love (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American basketball player. Needs additional work (orange-tagged). Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Support: Seems notable. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 05:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    • @Stephen: this is why I wanted it included in the header. Might be in the template, but it's not visible enough. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
      You think people read the instructions at the top? Especially what would be points 7) and 8). It's a perennial problem. Stephen 07:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • They're more likely to read the top of the page than somewhere in the depth of the many policies. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Failing to read detailed instructions is normal behaviour – see banner blindness and WP:CREEP. If you don't want people casting such !votes then the format of the process should be changed so that it's a checklist rather than a call for !votes. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    It's not WP:CREEP if it's already a rule. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support The orange banner tag was placed in 2010 which is 14 years ago! Since that time, the article has been expanded greatly and the number of citations increased from 2 to 27. As there's no current indication or discussion of specific problems with the article and the article seems quite adequate, I just removed the obsolete tag. If people think there's a problem, they need to be specific. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Support. Citations have been completed. Marked as ready. Flibirigit (talk) 13:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 20:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

RD: Arthur Frommer

Article: Arthur Frommer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Travel Weekly, NYTimes, LATimes, CNN, BBC, Guardian, NPR, People
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Founder of Frommer's travel guide book series. Thriley (talk) 01:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Soft oppose: Chunks of the article aren't cited, there are also no sections and it's lacking in prose. Scuba 02:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: György Pauk

Article: György Pauk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hungarian violinist, Bartók expert. Grimes2 (talk) 23:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Support article is properly cited. Scuba 02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 03:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

2024 Senegalese parliamentary election

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Article: 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The PASTEF party, led by Ousmane Sonko (pictured), claims victory in the 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election (Post)
News source(s): France 24 Deutsch Welle
Credits:

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs serious work, and needs to be updated, but when that is done this is ITN/R. More of a call to action for people to edit the article at the moment rather than a true submission to the board. Scuba 04:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

These sources are all dated from 18 November so this submission should be moved to tomorrow. Senegal uses UTC. Departure– (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Moved. Scuba 04:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Wait until an official winner is announced. I will say I don't know much about how election works in Senegal. INeedSupport :3 15:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Weak oppose on quality as the article is very short, although it seems well sourced. Per AP, other major parties have conceded defeat to PASTEF and their victory seems all but guaranteed. I'd just like to confirm however, Sonko is the leader of PASTEF but he isn't mentioned in the AP article - I don't know enough about Senegalese politics to draw a major conclusion on this though. Departure– (talk) 17:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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