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October 31

October 31, 2008 (2008-10-31) (Friday)

• Libya pays US$1.5 billion in compensation for past terrorist attacks to the United States, clearing the way for normal diplomatic ties between the two countries. (AFP via ABC)
• Seven people are killed in Tibet's worst snowstorm in recorded history. (Xinhua).
• A new study by the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit shows that the warming of Earth's polar regions is caused by humans. (CNN)
• The third pipeline bombing in the month of October targets an EnCana-operated gas pipeline near the town of Dawson Creek, British Columbia in Canada. (CBC)

ITN candidates for October 31

• A new study by the Climatic Research Unit claims to have uncovered conclusive evidence of human involvement in global warming.(CNN)
  • I'll create the study article in my sandbox; who thinks it's newsworthy? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 06:43, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Since you're all asleep, I'm gonna include it. My reasoning is that a study this notable (covered by a LOT of outlets) that states that humans are actually to blame for warming and provides scientifically conclusive evidence is probably worthy of it. Rewording hook to:
• A study by the Climatic Research Unit claims to have uncovered conclusive evidence of human involvement in climate change in Antarctica.Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 08:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, the blurb says it is a claim. If you want to include it, the wording has to be better. The item itself is ITN-worthy, still. --Tone 09:12, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

The article was somewhat misleading anyway. It suggested people didn't think human induced warming was occuring in Antartica. In fact even the reference used to support the claims said that there were existing theories indeed I'm pretty sure many climate scientists have expected it was or would occur for a long while, there was just insufficient data to be sure. It also suggested there was no data suggesting a change in temperature before this when the reference stated there was a rise but there was insufficient data and the conditions were too variable to link it to human activity. In other words, while the study appears to be significant, it's not in the way the article presented. I've tried to improve it. Nil Einne (talk) 15:22, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

There's a difference between people believing something happens/that there is evidence to prove it and actually having conclusive results from research. As all the sources say, there was no data from the Antarctic to prove anything. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 16:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

What's the new discovery? Everyone knows that global warming has human hand in it. I did not notice any new striking discovery by the research team. Did I miss anything? --GPPande talk! 18:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Up 'til now there hasn't been any conclusive proof, hence the huge amount of global warming denial. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd support this although as Tone has pointed out the wording of the blurb needs changing. It needs to convey accurately what the report is saying, that is they have evidence that climatic change in Antartica has been caused by human action, whilst at the same time being easily understandable. How about:

"A study by the Climatic Research Unit uncovers conclusive evidence that climate change in Antarctica, has in part been caused by human activity"

The 'has in part' bit can be removed although I think it is a necessary clause as these people are not saying that humans are solely responsible --Daviessimo (talk) 19:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I've posted a version of this. The important "new" thing, it should be pointed out, is direct evidence about Antarctica.--Pharos (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I've added some tags on Climatic Research Unit. If they are addressed, I have no further objections. --Tone 22:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

• Is there an article on the current situation in Congo. Its fairly big news on all networks.
  • That's already in the news; see Battle of Goma. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 21:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

• Is there an article about the African trade bloc unification? Spencer^T♦C 01:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

This one would be nice. Can't find the article though. Maybe we should wait for the block to be officially formed, this now was just an agreement. --Tone 10:27, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

October 30

October 30, 2008 (2008-10-30) (Thursday)

• Malaysia recognizes Kosovo. (BalkanInsight)
• A series of bomb blasts in Assam, India, kills at least 66 people and injures more than 470. (Times of India)
• A freak hailstorm hits East Devon, England, causing flooding in and around Ottery St Mary and Honiton. (BBC news)
• Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's new Cabinet is sworn in after the October 14 federal election. (CBC News)

ITN candidates for October 30

• The article 2008 Assam bombings is quite ready. Can some admin quickly post it? The news is in highlight on all TV channels. --GPPande talk! 11:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

This has been added. –Howard the Duck 15:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Whilst I support this particular occurence I think a new consensus may have to be drawn on the whole India terrorism issue given that these events are becoming so frequent. We've had almost 10 since July, which is starting to draw India on a parallel with Afghanistan and Iraq (where only the most severe attacks get on ITN). Maybe something along the lines of a minimum death toll could be used. --Daviessimo (talk) 18:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

But, we do post every incident with such high death tool (also in Afghanistan and Iraq). We should not make India an exception. What could be used as the criteria, is a political significance. Hard to say, really. --Tone 18:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed terrorism in India is at it's peak - never has India seen such horrible mindless terror since independence. Even during the peak of militancy in Punjab and Kashmir not as many innocents were killed. Multiple factors are causing all this - failure of RAW to foil terror attacks, absolutely failed laws to punish militants, worst Home minister India has seen till now and many new terror groups mushrooming across the nation. BTW, this particular attack was the worst attack till now in Assam and entire North east India till date. So I do believe that this news qualify for ITN. There are still a few bombings like 2008 Agartala bombings and Malegaon bombings which did not pass the test and so did not featured in ITN. So you can be rest assured that only significant events reach the main page and not all. --GPPande talk! 19:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I also want to note that Bangalore bombings (2 deaths) was included with a much larger associated item, otherwise, notability would have been much lower. As for a minimum death line, these attacks are unlike anything I've seen in India before, and maybe, instead of having a minimum death rate, we should have articles on the Afghanistan and Iraq ones too. Spencer^T♦C 19:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

you cant compare india to afghanistan/iraq. there are wars going on in those countries. if a bomb were to explode in a country that is supposed to be peaceful then it should be posted. having a death count limit is saying 5-6 lives are simply not important enough for wikipedia. to me its really bad way of limiting indian news.209.82.15.17 (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

60 deaths is a lot, even for Iraq/Afghanistan standards. –Howard the Duck 06:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Daviessimo, should I laugh at your suggestion or actually take it seriously? You are comparing India to Iraq and Afghanistan? Are you out of your mind? Well, apologies for my strong reaction but that really pissed me off. I'm assuming you were joking. --128.211.201.161 (talk) 22:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

• Do we have anything about student protests in Italy? May be relevant. --Tone 18:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

October 29

October 29, 2008 (2008-10-29) (Wednesday)

• The United States Treasury Department spends US$125 billion of its $700 billion bailout fund on nine banks, some of whom had argued that they did not need the money. (CNN)
• The Philadelphia Phillies win the 2008 World Series 4 games to 1, defeating the Tampa Bay Rays 4-3 in Game 5. (The New York Times)
• India's Viswanathan Anand retains the World Chess Championship title in Bonn, Germany, by defeating Russia’s Vladimir Kramnik. (CNN-IBN)
• Danish-based low-cost carrier Sterling Airlines files for bankruptcy and stops all passenger flights after its cash-strapped Icelandic investors were unable keep the company afloat.(The Guardian)
• Suicide bombers attack targets in Somalia: Hargeisa, the capital of the self-proclaimed republic of Somaliland, and Bosaso, a city in the autonomous state of Puntland. (BBC News)
• At least 100 people die after a 6.4 magnitude earthquake in Pakistan in the city of Ziarat. (CNN)
• Mohamed Nasheed of the Maldivian Democratic Party is elected President of the Maldives in the country's first democratic election. (AFP via Google)

ITN candidates for October 29

• Nominating: India's Viswanathan Anand (pictured) retains World Chess Championship 2008 title in Bonn by defeating Russia’s Vladimir Kramnik --GPPande talk! 19:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. And we seem to have run down on Indian in the news items.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The updated section in the article could use some copy-editing and another ref. Spencer^T♦C 21:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. Thank goodness we badly needed an item with a free image. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added the match score + ref now. That should make it elaborate. --GPPande talk! 11:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Sterling Airways

• Nom:Danish-based low-cost carrier Sterling Airways (plane pictured) files for bankruptcy as its cash-strapped Icelandic investors are unable keep the company airborne. --Hapsala (talk) 12:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

How significant is it? The Lehman Brothers case was big, is this significant for Danish economy? (by the way, the article contains an unneeded block of text in Danish) --Tone 12:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Many many low cost airlines across the globe have merged or filed bankruptcy recently due to global economic crisis - including recent mergers for much bigger airlines like Jet Airways and Kingfisher Airlines which seem to have almost double fleet size as compared to Sterling. I think this is not significant. Also, article is too small and just 1 line update. --GPPande talk! 19:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose bad pun. This isn't the New York Post. What's next, "Shipping company sinks under weight of debts"? "Bad investments cause software firm to crash"? Also, is this really that big of a company? Random89 19:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, thousands of stranded passengers might not agree... but I'd agree, though, that the article is barely ready for ITN. --Hapsala (talk) 23:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• Mohamed Nasheed wins the Maldives' first democratic presidential election in a runoff round, unseating incumbent Maumoon Abdul Gayoom who has been in office since 1978. – Zntrip 02:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Looks great; including. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 06:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• At least 70 people die after a 6.4 magnitude earthquake in Pakistan near the city of Quetta. (CNN)

If that stub is expanded it could go on... any voices of protest? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 06:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Included due to expansion and the nearly doubling of fatalities. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 07:11, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• Coordinated suicide bombings kill 56 in Hargeisa, Somaliland and Bosaso, Somalia.

I fixed this one up and included it. Man, there's a lot of depressing stuff in the news... Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 14:11, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The wording on Portal:Current events ("Suicide bombers attack targets in Hargeisa, the capital of the self-proclaimed republic of Somaliland, and Bosaso, a city in the autonomous state of Puntland") does a better job of setting the context. Could we recast this as "Coordinated suicide bombings kill 56 in Hargeisa, capital of the self-proclaimed republic of Somaliland, and Bosaso, in the autonomous Somalian state of Puntland"? Or is that too verbose? Aille (talk) 18:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• In baseball, the Philadelphia Phillies win the 2008 World Series defeating the Tampa Bay Rays four games to one.

One of the four major North American championships. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 02:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Support (despite my regional reservations.) :-) Therequiembellishere (talk) 02:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I posted a variation of the above. --Bongwarrior (talk) 02:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

October 28

October 28, 2008 (2008-10-28) (Tuesday)

• Tamil Tiger terrorists have carried out unsuccessful air strikes on oil tanks near the capital, Colombo, and an army camp in Mannar, north-western Sri Lanka. (AFP via Google)
• At its Professional Developers Conference, Microsoft delivers a pre-beta release of Windows 7 to developers, and announces plans to release a full Windows 7 beta early in 2009. (The New York Times)
• North Korea issues a statement declaring that it will turn South Korea into "debris" if the South does not stop all "confrontational activities". (CNN)
• Iran opens a naval base in the town of Jask, just outside the Strait of Hormuz entrance to the Persian Gulf. (BBC News)

ITN candidates for October 28

• North Korea issues a statement declaring it that it will turn South Korea into "debris" if South Korea does not stop all "confrontational activities". (CNN)
  • Potential of country getting nuked = news? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 07:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

• Also, we have runoff results for the Maldivian presidential election, 2008. If we're willing to wait until tomorrow night (I have to go now, and I have work tomorrow), but if someone would like to write something up and I'll help expand it tomorrow, that'll be good. Also, if someone could add it to Portal:Current events: Here's the link. Spencer^T♦C 01:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

October 27

October 27, 2008 (2008-10-27) (Monday)

• Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens is found guilty on all seven counts of lying on United States Senate financial documents. (AP via Google News)
• The Washington, D.C. Metro announces it will randomly search "backpacks, gym bags and any other containers that riders carry with them onto the bus and rail system" during periods of increased threat. (The Washington Post)
• Kivu conflict:
  • Tutsi rebels under Laurent Nkunda are reportedly advancing on the city of Goma in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Reuters)
  • MONUC peacekeeping forces are engaged in heavy fighting against rebels. (BBC News)
• Nine major US banks will receive a $US123 billion capital injection from the federal government, says a Treasury Department official. (Sky News)
• Line m2 of the Lausanne Metro starts revenue service, making Lausanne, Switzerland, the smallest city in the world to have a metro system. (swissinfo)
• Pakistani intelligence officials claim that a US missile strike in South Waziristan has killed up to twenty people. The BBC claims that about 80 people were killed during US strikes into Pakistan over the past month.(AP via The Guardian) (BBC News)
• Two Neo-Nazi white supremacists are arrested for plotting to assassinate US presidential candidate Barack Obama. (Reuters)
• Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili dismisses Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze, and nominates Grigol Mgaloblishvili as the country's new prime minister, following the 2008 South Ossetian war. (AFP via Google News)

ITN candidates for October 27

• U.S. Senator Ted Stevens, the political patriarch of Alaska and the longest serving Republican in the Senate, is convicted on seven corruption charges.

The "political patriarch" descriptor is from the Associated Press article ([1]). Apparently this guy is as dominant in Alaska politics as Fidel Castro is in Cuba. He's also one of the top Republicans in the US Senate. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Not quite notable, based on the charges, and there's also no real international-interest. Spencer^T♦C 00:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

He's not been convicted of murder, but the conviction will destroy his political career. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

• Two people are killed and one injured at a shooting at the University of Central Arkansas in Conway, Arkansas. (CNN)

This is a potential candidate, potentially, if someone helps work on the article. 2008 University of Arkansas shootings if anyone wants to work on it; I have to get to class. 13:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose -- The fact that a double murder happens on a college campus doesn't make it internationally newsworthy. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with Mwalcoff. This isn't really notable as school shootings go. Spencer^T♦C 00:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

• Line m2 of the Lausanne Metro starts revenue service, making Lausanne, Switzerland, the smallest city in the world to have a metro system.(Le Matin)

This strikes me as the more interesting candidate.--Peter cohen (talk) 17:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this news of international importance? --GPPande talk! 17:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Not really. In addition, the article needs more refs. Spencer^T♦C 00:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed even the key claim (smallest city with metro) is not supported by any refs in the article from what I can tell Nil Einne (talk) 15:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

• Two Neo-Nazi white supremacists are arrested after their plot to assassinate Presidential nominee Barack Obama is uncovered. (Reuters)

Anyone? I'm guessing this will get shot down due to national unimportance (though I think it is important that the world's most powerful country's first black presidential hopeful is targeted for killing). Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Not to be pessimistic, but he wasn't killed, so it isn't worth including. Spencer^T♦C 00:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

True. Meh, I'll drop that then. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Mind you, I don't think he had to be killed for it to matter. Although this received a lot of international attention, it was ultimately two nutcases who had little hope of succeeding (which was why I believe the NYT buried the story). There are far too many of those for this to be noteworthy. If there had been a far reaching conspiracy involving top snipers and secret service agents for example, things may be different Nil Einne (talk) 15:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

• Kivu conflict:
  • Tutsi rebels under Laurent Nkunda are reportedly advancing on the DR Congo city of Goma. (Reuters)
  • MONUC UN peacekeeping forces are engaged in heavy fighting against rebels. (BBC)

These two? Probably the most important item we have right now. I'm just not sure how to form that into an item. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Nord-Kivu war, if anyone wants to help. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 05:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. The date in the box should be corrected though, 2004-present goes for the whole conflict, not for the battle. --Tone 07:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

October 26

October 26, 2008 (2008-10-26) (Sunday)

• United States Special Operations Forces, stationed in Iraq, launch a cross-border raid in Syria, attacking a civilian building under construction near Abu Kamal, Syria. The Syrian government states 8 civilians were killed. (Sky News) (SANA) (IHT)
• A shooter kills two people and injures another at the University of Central Arkansas in Conway, Arkansas. (CNN)
• A light aircraft en route from Gloucester, England, to Kilrush, Ireland, crashes in the Wicklow Mountains of Ireland, killing four people. (RTÉ)
• Kadima Party leader and Acting Prime Minister of Israel Tzipi Livni abandons efforts to form a coalition government and calls for early elections. (CNN)
• Georgian–Abkhazian conflict:
  • President of Abkhazia, Sergei Bagapsh, accused Georgia of 'massive provocations with the use of armed force' after Georgians opened 'heavy fire' on Abkhazian border guards on Inguri river, part of the Georgian-Abkhazian border. (Kasparov.ru)
  • A Georgian source claims a shootout occurred between the Russian 'occupational forces' and Abkhazian 'militiamen'. (Rustavi2)
• Óscar Tulio Lizcano, a Conservative congressman kidnapped by the FARC in August 2000, is freed by the military in Chocó Department, Colombia. (BBC News)
• Municipal elections take place in Chile. The conservative opposition Alliance for Chile reaches 40% of the mayoral vote, winning an election for the first time in 50 years, in what is considered a barometer for the 2009 presidential election. (El Mercurio)

ITN candidates for October 26

• Israeli item maybe? The focus article is titled Next election, what seems a bit funny, though. --Tone 19:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on this for inclusion in the main page. It'll be up at 2008 Israeli early elections; I'm about 3/4 done. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 22:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

K, this will be included. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 22:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Image suggestion. I say we go with this pic of Livni (cropped to the head), it's a newer blurb than the storm.

Random89 00:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• Article newly created and suggested line constructed: A plane crash in the Wicklow Mountains, Ireland kills four people, including the British born pilot. --➨Candlewicke  ^{:) Sign/Talk} 20:29, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Weak Support There aren't many deaths, but in the case of need for a timer-enforced update, this is a good candidate. Spencer^T♦C 00:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

• American special forces conduct a raid in Syria. --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 22:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Did a source rehaul and such; I'll include it.Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 22:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

It appears to have been slightly reworded from the original proposal. One might say the word "reportedly" should be before the claim of dead civilians. I don't know how the Syrian state news agency is viewed as a source by Wikipedia. Danthemankhan 23:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

October 25

October 25, 2008 (2008-10-25) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

• War in Darfur: Human Rights Watch says that more than 40 civilians have been killed in attacks by pro-government Arab militias on rebel-held villages in South Darfur. (BBC News)

Disasters and accidents

• Severe flooding in Yemen kills 58 people and displaces 20,000 more. (Xinhua)

ITN candidates for October 25

• After 25 years of construction the first line of the Warsaw Metro in Warsaw, Poland is completed (pictured). Polish Radio website (en)

  

There isn't much update in the article...Besides, the line has been operating since 1995. I don't know. --Tone 16:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• 2008 Yemen floods is a possible candidate but it is just a stub so far. If anyone could expand it... --Tone 16:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Expanded and included... hopefully that's ok. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 22:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good now. Spencer^T♦C 00:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

October 24

October 24, 2008 (2008-10-24) (Friday)

• Government heads of 45 countries from Asia and Europe meet in Beijing as the 7th Asia-Europe Meeting convenes with financial crisis topping the agenda. (Xinhua)
• The government of Djibouti has said that the country will have to go to war with Eritrea unless the United Nations acts to resolve growing tension over a border dispute. (BBC News)
• The mother and the brother of American actress and singer Jennifer Hudson are murdered. (AP via Google News)

ITN candidates for October 24

Is there an article for the Djibouti-Eritrea border dispute? Spencer^T♦C 02:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Djiboutian–Eritrean border conflict.--chaser - t 03:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

There is no significant update to the article regarding recent events. --Tone 12:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

October 23

October 23, 2008 (2008-10-23) (Thursday)

• The New York City Council votes 29–22 in favor of extending the term limit on the office of the Mayor to three consecutive four-year terms from two consecutive four-year terms. This allows current Mayor Michael Bloomberg to run for office again in the next mayoral election in November 2009. (WCBS)
• Ivo Pukanić, the owner of the Croatian weekly newspaper Nacional, is assassinated in a car bomb attack in Zagreb. (BBC News)

ITN candidates for October 23

• Nom: Chinese dissident Hu Jia is awarded the 2008 Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought by the European parliament. BBC News ––Bender235 (talk) 11:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The is my opinion, but I'm not sure the prize is notable like the Man Booker or the nobels. Also, the article about the person doesn't have a large enough update. Spencer^T♦C 19:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I support this nom. It's an important news story with bearing on China's Western relations. I also believe the Sakharov Prize to be quite important, even in the context of the other prizes mentioned by Spencer. __meco (talk) 11:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• If 23 October 2008 Zagreb bombing was expanded substantially, it could go up. (We've put up Indian bombings that caused similar damage). Spencer^T♦C 19:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "substantially"? Admiral Norton ^(talk) 20:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Most of the news I have read about the event are significantly longer than the present article. More can be written about government response and mention some recent events (Hodak case...). Maybe somewords on Pukanić, though there already is an article. Support from my side otherwise. --Tone 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment is the title really the most suitable? Wasn't an assasination? --Tone 20:33, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd support this. With Croatia a candidate for E.U. entry this could be quite a significant event especially if the rest of Europe decides that there is still too much organised crime in the country for it to join. Also the article looks decent now. As for the title the sources I've seen suggested the bomb was placed under Pukanic's car and as such this has to be seen as an assasination --Daviessimo (talk) 20:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Not that Zagreb is even a moderately dangerous city for an average citizen or tourist (there is very little crime aside from these events, violent deaths stem almost absolutely from car accidents), but as you said, this bears much international importance. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 21:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but there were other casualties. Also, it was taken very seriously by the police (believe me, I spent an hour in a major traffic jam not three hours ago). Admiral Norton ^(talk) 20:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I did some more work on the article, I hope it's fine now. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 21:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Posting. Still, think about a possible alternative title. --Tone 22:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

You need to remove the word "a." -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

October 22

October 22, 2008 (2008-10-22) (Wednesday)

• Western donors pledge US$4.5 billion toward the rebuilding of Georgia, which suffered from damage inflicted during short war with Russia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia in August. (The New York Times)
• The Indian Space Research Organisation successfully launches Chandrayaan-1, the country's first unmanned lunar exploration mission. (The Indian Express)
• The Macau security law draft was unveiled; it is based on the Article 23 of the Macau Basic Law, similar to the failed anti-subversion bill in Hong Kong based on Hong Kong Basic Law Article 23, which drew over 500,000 protesters in 2003. (The Standard)
• Three African trade blocs – COMESA, SADC, and the EAC – agree to merge to form a bloc consisting of 26 countries and 757 million people. (Xinhua)

ITN candidates for October 22

• Nom India successfully launches its first unmanned lunar spacecraft Chandrayaan-I at 6.22 IST - Indian Express -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Support--Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. --Tone 06:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

October 21

October 21, 2008 (2008-10-21) (Tuesday)

• Global financial crisis of September–October 2008: Iceland's Kaupthing Bank fails to pay interest to its 50-billion-yen (US$493 million) bondholders in Japan. (Reuters)
• India wins the second test match of the 2008-09 Border-Gavaskar cricket test series against Australia at Mohali by 320 runs(Cricinfo)
• A trade route opens within Pakistan-administered Kashmir and India's Jammu and Kashmir state after a 60-year barrier. (BBC)
• A bomb blast in Imphal, India, kills 17 people and injures more than 30. The insurgency-racked Indian seven sisters have seen two major bomb blasts this month blamed on Islamists and Communist insurgents.

ITN candidates for October 21

• Nom: India wins the second test match of the 2008-09 Border-Gavaskar cricket test series against Australia at Mohali by 320 runs(Cricinfo)-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 07:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Even though I am all for cricket news to come up on ITN - I think we should wait for the series' end result and post it to ITN rather than individual matches. What do you say buddy? --GPPande talk! 07:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

But I consider this to be a historic win. I think it is India's biggest victory against Australia in terms of runs. Well, well, and such a big win surely needs to be recorded.-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 08:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

If your arguing the result was historically significant so we should have it, then that should be conveyed by the proposed headline AND supported by the article. As it stands, the article isn't ITN standard whatever the case Nil Einne (talk) 09:45, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Are we sure it is India's biggest victory against Australia in terms of runs? Any ref? --GPPande talk! 09:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I got it here it states explicitly - This was India's biggest win against the Aussies, eclipsing the 222-run victory that came in Melbourne in 1977.. My Strong Support for this good nomination from Ravi. --GPPande talk! 09:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sceptic here. Would we put the biggest win in football between England, Germany, France, Italy (choose the match) or something like this? I don't think so. --Tone 10:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, there's not enough prose describing the second test match, and the only prose is in the intro. If it is India's biggest victory, then the article should say that, and with a ref. Spencer^T♦C 11:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I think you're right here, Tone. If it were the record defeat for any major test country, it would become interesting.--Peter cohen (talk) 12:24, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Whilst the victory may be a record for India, it is not a record in the sport as a whole. If this goes up, a precedent is set for all manner of country based records to go up. Would San Marino winning a game of football go up? Or what about if Tahiti qualified for the rugby world cup for the first time in history? --Daviessimo (talk) 18:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Support if this is the biggest margin of victory in all of cricket, oppose if it is not. –Howard the Duck 04:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Well if we use the logic above I oppose. According to List of Test cricket records it's not even close. The record victory is by an inning and 579 runs. This one is only 320 run margin. --138.253.237.38 (talk) 12:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't go as far as all cricket, I think if the Test record was broken it would go up, but as others have pointed out this is nowhere near. 92.11.13.142 (talk) 14:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: I think this maybe remarkable. The equivalent of this in football is when Germany trashes England 10-0, or if the USA blows out one of the Yugoslavian teams 200-75 in basketball. However, with the way cricket tournaments are staged, it seems that the different teams tour each other and they only seldom get together for one big tournament, considering test cricket takes like days to finish, and teams of the same level meet each other constantly (hence no England-San Marino in football comparison, and almost all multi-team cricket tourneys are ODIs.) So I now say dunno on this one. –Howard the Duck 18:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Posting: A bomb blast in Imphal, India kills 17 and injures more than 30. We need another item now. Spencer^T♦C 11:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Support. The article is in a good shape. --Tone 11:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

October 20

October 20, 2008 (2008-10-20) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

• Sri Lankan Civil War: The Sri Lankan military reports that they have breached a key defensive line near the Tamil Tiger headquarters in northern Sri Lanka. (BBC)

Arts and culture

• Former President of Botswana, Festus Mogae is awarded the $5m Mo Ibrahim Foundation Prize for Achievement in African Leadership for 2008. (PA)

ITN candidates for October 20

Definitely the Mo Ibrahim prize story. AndrewRT(Talk) 22:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose. Not that I'm the be all and end all, but if this was like the Nobel or the Booker prize I think I would have heard of it. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Beginning of the trial of the clandestine Ergenekon network in Turkey, marking a historic chapter. Surely merits a mention. --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 18:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

October 19

October 19, 2008 (2008-10-19) (Sunday)

• Afghan officials claim that the Taliban has executed as many as 30 of 50 people captured on a bus in Kandahar Province. (International Herald Tribune)
• A bridge under construction for the Delhi Mass Rapid Transit System in East Delhi collapses, killing 1 and leaving at least 9 injured. (IBN Live)
• Cambodia agrees to release 13 Royal Thai Army soldiers captured during recent fighting in the 2008 Cambodian-Thai stand-off. (Radio Australia)
• Retired General and former Secretary of State Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama for President of the United States. (Reuters)

ITN candidates for October 19

• Do we have anything on the Taliban item? --Tone 16:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

October 18

October 18, 2008 (2008-10-18) (Saturday)

• NASA launches Interstellar Boundary Explorer satellite that will study the edge of Solar System. (eFlux)
• Nine Chinese oil workers and two Sudanese drivers are kidnapped in the province of Kordofan in Sudan. (BBC)
• United States President George W. Bush meets with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and European Commission President José Manuel Barroso to discuss a proposal for a summit of world leaders to discuss the current economic crisis. (The New York Times)
• Russia reports that two soldiers were killed and seven were wounded in an ambush by local Muslim separatists in Ingushetia. Other reports suggested as many as 40 Russian troops were killed. (BBC News)
• Modern techniques reveal several amino acids in vials left from the 1953 Miller-Urey experiment in addition to those that were detected by Stanley Miller. (BBC News)

ITN candidates for October 18

• Nominate Miller-Urey experiment Narayanese (talk) 13:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

In the article, Miller-Urey#Recent_related_studies needs ~3 more sentences in the second paragraph. Can I also have a wording suggestion? Thanks, Spencer^T♦C 20:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what the significance of this news item is. Shouldn't that be indicated? __meco (talk) 07:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I've expanded a bit. It's mostly an interesting insight on the history of science, although it does say a little new about the origin of life, giving some weight to a role of vulcanoes. Narayanese (talk) 15:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't see what's wrong with the wording that is already there, but an alternative is "Scientists analyse vials from the 1953 Miller-Urey experiment on the origin of life, and find many amino acids in Miller's volcano-like setup" (I'm sure there's a grammar mistake somewhere) Narayanese (talk) 16:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't really like this formulation... it should somehow mention that the classic experiment produced amino acids as well. --Tone 16:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, true. What about "Several additional amino acids are found in vials from the 1953 Miller-Urey experiment that probed the origin of life"? Narayanese (talk) 19:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Posting. We need something, and this is the best item here. The article is good. Spencer^T♦C 19:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The wording is better now. It could be probably even better but I suppose one would need more than one sentence to explain it fully. For tomorrow, we have LHC opening as the new big science story. --Tone 19:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

October 17

October 17, 2008 (2008-10-17) (Friday)

• The President of France Nicolas Sarkozy withdraws tacit support for the Quebec sovereignty movement shown by some of his predecessors in a visit to Quebec City. (Reuters)
• U.S. Congressman Vito Fossella is convicted of drunken driving. (AP via Fox News)
• China has made rules which were introduced for the Olympic Games allowing foreign reporters to interview without applying for permission permanent. (BBC)
• Turkey, Austria, Japan, Mexico and Uganda are elected by the United Nations General Assembly to the Security Council. Iran and Iceland fail in their bids. (New York Times)
• Morgan Tsvangirai of Zimbabwe's Movement for Democratic Change states that power-sharing talks with President Robert Mugabe have failed to reach an agreement. (BBC)
• Fourteen Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam members of the Lok Sabha in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, including two ministers and five ministers of state, hand in post-dated resignations to party chief M Karunanidhi. (Hindustan Times)
• The United States Supreme Court overturns a lower court’s order requiring state officials in Ohio to supply information that would have made it easier to challenge prospective voters. (New York Times)
• The United States State Department claims that North Korea has stepped up disablement of its nuclear reactor and allowed surveillance of its nuclear facility to resume. (CNN)
• The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declares that the beluga whale of Alaska's Cook Inlet is an endangered species. (AP via USA Today)
• Global financial crisis of September–October 2008:
  • The Parliament of Germany passes a 500 billion euro ($673.8 billion) bank bailout. (Al Jazeera) (Reuters)
  • The Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper states that Canada and the European Union support an international summit on the crisis before the end of the year. (Reuters)
• Sachin Tendulkar of the India cricket team becomes the highest aggregate run scorer in Test cricket at 0901 hrs(GMT) and the first to pass 12,000 in scoring 88 during the second test against Australia at the Punjab Cricket Association Stadium in Mohali. (BBC)

ITN candidates for October 17

Sachin Tendulkar becomes record aggregate scorer in test match cricket.--Peter cohen (talk) 11:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

If there is a suitably updated article to link to it should go up (IMO), but I can't seem to find one. There is only a short edit to Sachin Tendulkar so far. ReadingOldBoy (talk) 16:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually reading more carefully there are a couple of paragraphs on it. I'd suggest posting with the headline: Sachin Tendulkar becomes the leading scorer in Test Cricket and the first man to pass 12,000 Test runs. Sorry, forgot to sign ReadingOldBoy (talk) 17:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I like your suggested wording. The lede of the Tendulkar article was somewhat garbled and repetitive in the rush to update i. I think I have sorted it now.--Peter cohen (talk) 17:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree, the suggested wording is exellent Cokehabit (talk) 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

For context, this record is considered the highest accolade for batsmen in cricket; there is no greater feat. Tendulkar's dual record of most ODI runs (16000+) and most Test runs (12000+) will likely never be overtaken. 124.180.122.224 (talk) 04:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Adding to this point, when the equivalent bowling feat was achieved last year by Muralitharan it was added to ITN [2]. The two are on a par as the peak cumulative career statistics that can be definitively broken by a cricketer who remains active. (Career averages are also important but only known for sure once cricketer retires.) Neither record is expected to be broken again in the next year or two, if at all. --Peter cohen (talk) 07:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

This news is much more important than the Security Council headline discussed below. Let's post this one. 18.96.7.148 (talk) 07:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Support: This a major record in cricket and first cricketer to reach 12,000 runs mark. Should be posted. Plus, the red banner looks ugly. Some admin please post. --GPPande talk! 11:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Why is this not being put despite similar news having gone up on ITN in past and also no opposition to it this time. --GPPande talk! 13:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I just saw this. Can someone link to me the exact section in the article where it has the test run, because all I see in the article is 3 sentences mentioning the event in question with 1 ref, in the intro. If that's all there is, can you make a one-sentence summary in the intro, and add a section in the article mentioning this? And also, can someone give me clear-cut wording as well? Thanks, Spencer^T♦C 13:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

In lead other editors have mentioned one line summary On 17 October 2008, when he surpassed Brian Lara's record for the most runs scored in Test Cricket, he also became the first batsman to score 12,000 runs in that form of the game. with ref provided. It is also mentioned that he is the highest scorer in both forms of cricket and most centuries in them. In section Sachin_Tendulkar#Career_achievements there is With a current aggregate of 12,027 Test runs, he surpassed Brian Lara's previous record tally of 11,953 runs as the highest run scorer in test matches in the second Test of Australia's 2008 tour of India in Mohali. with ref. I just now added the next sentence there with ref. --GPPande talk! 14:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

The blurb can simple one - India's Sachin Tendulkar becomes highest scorer in test cricket crossing 12,000 runs. --GPPande talk! 14:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

What about this? --

India's Sachin Tendulkar becomes highest scorer in test cricket surpassing Brian Lara's previous world record of 11,953 runs. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 15:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Or even returning (almost) to User:ReadingOldBoy's wording praised above

India's Sachin Tendulkar becomes the leading scorer in test cricket and the first to pass 12,000 Test runs. --Peter cohen (talk) 18:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. I prefer the version without too many links. --Tone 18:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Endorse - some monkey photography on the main page! YellowMonkey (click here to chose Australia's next top model!) 02:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

• The United Nations General Assembly votes to admit Turkey, Austria, Japan, Uganda, and Mexico to the Security Council. [3] Fishal (talk) 19:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

The news seems noteworthy, but the article looks rather sparse. I'll take a look and see what I can do. Random89 19:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I have updated the article, looks good to go. Random89 19:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I think it is important to include mention of the two countries that lost their bids, Iceland and Iran. __meco (talk) 20:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Can I request a little more prose? The article still seems a tad sparse. Spencer^T♦C 23:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

In the annual rotation of five of the 10 non-permanent members of the UN Security Council, Turkey, Austria, Japan, Uganda, and Mexico are selected. The candidates that lost their bids were Iceland and Iran, notably Iran lost by 158 against 32 votes to Japan. __meco (talk) 08:50, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, you meant prose for the article.. I can't help you there (or, I won't, rather), but I still think it is important that the names of the losing canidates be mentioned. __meco (talk) 08:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. ffm 12:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Now somebody pruned the text. It was too long, but the names of the two countries that missed out in their bids should be included. __meco (talk) 13:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Is there a reason you think that Iceland and Iran should be mentioned? I think the winners are good enough. Spencer^T♦C 14:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Both of these countries are highly in focus in the news media and it would be appropriate for readers to be able to connect the stories so as to ascertain how one influenced the other. __meco (talk) 23:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like POV pushing to me... We have no way of knowing why Iran or Iceland didn't make it to the security council. And besides that, the candidates who didn't make it any election are rarely of great interest Nil Einne (talk) 08:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

October 16

October 16, 2008 (2008-10-16) (Thursday)

• An earthquake of Richter scale 6.5 magnitude strikes the Pacific coasts of Guatemala and Mexico. (Reuters)
• An explosion at a coal mine in Shizuishan city in the Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region in the People's Republic of China results in at least 16 deaths. (AP via IHT)
• 2008 Cambodian-Thai stand-off: Cambodia and Thailand agree to joint border controls following a recent clash. (AFP via the Sydney Morning Herald)
• The United States Environmental Protection Agency sets a new standard, cutting the amount of lead that can be released into the atmosphere by 90 percent. (CNN)
• United States economy
  • The United States consumer price index remains unchanged during September as falling costs for clothes, gasoline and new cars helped to offset rising food and medical prices. (AP via CNN)
  • Industrial production in the United States falls by 2.8% due to the impact of hurricanes, a strike at Boeing and the credit crunch. (Bloomberg)
• Ilham Aliyev, President of Azerbaijan wins an 89.04 percent landslide victory in the Azerbaijani presidential election to get re-elected. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe criticizes the elections, though it notes progress. (CNN) (OSCE/ODIHR)
• 2008 British Columbia pipeline bombings: A second blast hits a gas pipeline in northern British Columbia near the town of Dawson Creek. (CBC)

ITN candidates for October 16

• Canadian terrorism is rare enough to warrant a headline. __meco (talk) 08:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure. There weren't any deaths, and damage to the pipeline itself was very minimal. Spencer^T♦C 20:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

That's true, of course. __meco (talk) 07:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

October 15

October 15, 2008 (2008-10-15) (Wednesday)

• 2008 Atlantic hurricane season: Hurricane Omar strengthens to a Category 3 hurricane as it nears the United States and United States Virgin Islands. (AP via ABC News)
• The Philadelphia Phillies defeat the Los Angeles Dodgers 5-1 in the fifth game of the 2008 National League Championship Series winning the series 4-1 and advancing to the 2008 World Series. (New York Times)
• Retail sales in the United States decline by 1.2% in September 2008, a third successive month in decline and the sharpest decline in three years, further evidence that the United States economy is in a recession. (USA Today)
• The International Maritime Bureau claims that pirates have hijacked a bulk carrier with 21 crew members in the Gulf of Aden near Somalia. (AP via the Charlotte Observer)
• 2008 Cambodian-Thai stand-off: Cambodia claims that Thai forces are grouping near the disputed area with later reports of an exchange of gunfire resulting in the death of two Royal Cambodian Army soldiers. (AFP via Google News), (AFP via Google News), (AP via Google News)
• The Waki Commission releases its report into the 2007–2008 Kenyan crisis which followed the disputed Kenyan presidential election, 2007. The Report found that senior politicians and businessmen—including up to six unnamed current cabinet ministers—had planned, financed and perpetrated the violence. (CNS News)

ITN candidates for October 15

• Azerbaijani presidential election, 2008 took place but there is no update on the results yet. An interesting candidate, nevertheless. (when updated) --Tone 07:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Article is now updated. Wording: Ilham Aliyev is re-elected president of Azerbaijan. Posting. Spencer^T♦C 01:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

October 14

October 14, 2008 (2008-10-14) (Tuesday)

• The United Arab Emirates recognizes Kosovo as an independent and sovereign state. (Emirates News Agency)
• Indian novelist Aravind Adiga wins the Man Booker Prize for his debut The White Tiger. (The Canberra Times)
• In Canada's 40th general election, the ruling Conservative Party gains 19 seats and wins another minority government. Stephen Harper is re-elected as Prime Minister. (CTV News)
• Zimbabwe riot police disrupt a student protest in Harare as the students attempt to present a petition to Parliament. (The Times)
• 2008 Cambodian-Thai stand-off: Thailand states that it is prepared to respond militarily if attacked by Cambodia after Cambodia issues an ultimatum to withdraw from disputed border areas. (AP via Google News)
• Double murderer Richard Cooey is executed at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville, Ohio, despite his claims that his obesity made lethal injection inhumane. (UPI)
• United States President George W. Bush announces new measures to attack the current economic crisis including plans for the U.S. government to buy stakes in major banks. (ABC News Australia)
• Yehude Simon swears in as the new prime minister of Peru after the resignation of Jorge Del Castillo following the oil kickback scandal in Peru.(BBC)

ITN candidates for October 14

Nom: Canadian general election, involves the election of a head of state. Natural R_X 02:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Isn't Canada's head of state Queen Elizabeth??? –Howard the Duck 03:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

We can put this on when the results are known. --Tone 07:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes she is Nil Einne (talk) 09:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• The Conservative Party/Liberal Party wins a minority/majority in the 2008 Canadian Elections, making Stephen Harper/Stephane Dion Prime Minister.

Random89 15:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Harper is re-elected as Prime Minister of Canada, as his Conservative Party wins a minority/majority in the 2008 Canadian Elections. (CBC News) --Natural R_X 02:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Definitely a minority now, every major news organization has called it as such. I'd say it's ready to post. Radagast (talk) 03:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Article has been updated to reflect the news blurb. Main-page ready. Random89 04:52, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Suggest this pic of Harper, as that is currently the top item. Random89 05:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

An image of his has been posted, albeit a different one, which looks better at 100x100px. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

'Minority' was changed to 'plurality'; while also technically correct, it's not really the right term for the context (all such results in parliamentary systems are generally called minorities). I'd suggest changing it back. Radagast (talk) 16:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I think you're mistaken. Stephen Harper's party won a minority of seats, but so did every single other party in this election who won seats. So the fact that Stephen Harper won a minority of seats is of no great interest to anyone (well other then it signifies they didn't win a majority). They did however win a plurality of seats and will almost definitely (but not definitely) lead the next government, as a minority government. The current headline which says they won a plurality (i.e. the most seats) is therefore the best headline. I see you're Canadian, so perhaps there is something unique about the Canadian system that I'm not aware of but definitely for Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and the UK I can say this would be the case, even if Malaysia has never even come close to a minority government, nor I believe Australia and they are rather rare in the UK. Nil Einne (talk) 08:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate: India's Aravind Adiga wins the Man Booker Prize for his debut The White Tiger. --GPPande talk! 09:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. I'll note that the Booker Prize is on the list at Wikipedia:Recurring items on ITN. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 10:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The update is 3 sentences with no refs in the update, only on in the intro. Spencer^T♦C 11:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I have expanded the section a little more and added few more refs. --GPPande talk! 11:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Much better now, thanks. Spencer^T♦C 20:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

October 13

October 13, 2008 (2008-10-13) (Monday)

• The Dow Jones Industrial Average increases by 935 points or 11.1 percent as stock markets around the world respond positively to steps to relieve the economic crisis of 2008. (New York Times)
• Summer 2008 California wildfires
  • A second wildfire breaks out in the hills above Los Angeles' San Fernando Valley prompting mandatory evacuations. (AP via USA Today)
  • Santa Ana winds causes an existing fire in the Angeles National Forest north of Los Angeles to flare up resulting in the closure of two freeways. (CNN)
• The United Kingdom House of Lords rejects the Counter-Terrorism Bill 2008 by 309 votes to 118. (Reuters)
• The European Union temporarily lifts travel bans on Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko and other top officials for six months to encourage democratic reforms in that country. (BBC News)
• Nobel Prize:
  • United States economist Paul Krugman wins the 2008 Nobel Prize in Economics for "analysis of trade patterns and location of economic activity".(AP via Google News)
• The U.S. Federal Reserve approves the merger of Wells Fargo and Wachovia after Citigroup withdraws the legal case in a New York federal court to put a hold on the merger.
• The Natural Capital Project releases the first version of (InVEST), an open source ecosystem service evaluation software inspired by the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment.

ITN candidates for October 13

Nom: U.S. Economist Paul Krugman wins the 2008 Nobel Prize in Economics. --Hapsala (talk) 11:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Posting. The article could have some more on the prize but I suppose it will be expanded soon. --Tone 11:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Nom: Massive demonstrations against recognition of Kosovo independence in Montenegro. 10,000 people gather in front of the parliament and read the 3-day ultimatum to the government. At the end civil disorder, 34 people injured.

Do we have an article update on this one? --Tone 07:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Can't find anything... Spencer^T♦C 11:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

October 12

October 12, 2008 (2008-10-12) (Sunday)

Business and economy

• The Prime Minister of Australia Kevin Rudd announces that the Government of Australia will guarantee all deposits in all Australian banks for three years as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis. (ABC News Australia)
• New Zealand and the United Arab Emirates will also guarantee all bank deposits in their banks. (RTÉ News)

Religion

• Alphonsa Muttathupadathu, a nun from Kerala, becomes India's first female saint in the Roman Catholic Church. (BBC), (VoA)

ITN candidates for October 12

• Pope Benedict XVI canonizes four new saints in the Roman Catholic Church, including Alphonsa Muttathupadathu (pictured), the first Indian woman to become a saint. 161.130.178.5 (talk) 17:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

We don't have an article regarding the other three saints, do we? Otherwise, I think this is a good candidate for ITN. --Tone 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

The article could use some updates, though. Spencer^T♦C 20:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Pls post headline and external newslinks at Portal:Current events. --PFHLai (talk) 00:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Just took care of this requirement. --PFHLai (talk) 00:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Posting. An update was needed and this article is now updated enough. --Tone 13:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

October 11

October 11, 2008 (2008-10-11) (Saturday)

• Global financial crisis of September–October 2008:
  • United States President George W. Bush commits to collaborative action with G7 finance ministers. (BBC News)
  • The International Monetary Fund warns of a global meltdown and offers to lend to countries if needed. (BBC News)
• Former South African President Thabo Mbeki will mediate between the Movement for Democratic Change and Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe's government after Mugabe takes control of ministries that command the military and the police, an action that allegedly violates the power-sharing agreement reached last month. (AFP via Yahoo News)
• The U.S. State Department removes North Korea from its list of sponsors of terrorism. (BBC News)
• An earthquake struck southern Russia with tremors felt across five Russian regions. The epicentre was in Chechnya, with 12 dead. (Russia Today)
• 2008 Pacific hurricane season: Hurricane Norbert reaches Category 3 strength as it nears Baja California in Mexico. (Canadian Press via Google News)
• Turkey bombs Kurdish military targets in northern Iraq. (AP via Yahoo News ) (Voice of America)
• Malaysia's opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim says he expects to seize power by December by winning over defectors of the ruling Barisan Nasional government. (Reuters via Yahoo News)
• Singapore Police Commissioner Khoo Boon Hui is elected the new president of Interpol. (Channel NewsAsia)
• European Union monitors in Georgia confirm that Russia has met the withdrawal deadline. (Irish Times)
• Austrian right-wing politician and Governor of Carinthia Jörg Haider is killed in an automobile accident near Klagenfurt in Carinthia, his political stronghold. (BBC News)
• Extrajudicial killings in the Philippines decrease as noted by the Commission on Human Rights. (Inquirer).
• The University of Toledo's Rockets stunned the Michigan Wolverines 13-10 at the Big House, in the first ever match up between the two schools, only fifty miles apart.

ITN candidates for October 11

Jörg Haider

• Nom: Austrian far-right politician Jörg Haider (pictured) is killed in a road accident near Klagenfurt in Carinthia, his political stronghold. --Hapsala (talk) 04:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted Thue | talk 08:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Removing. Posting deaths of people should have a consensus first. See WP:LILP.--Tone 08:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

The whole ITN death debate was only for "expected" deaths of people. This is an unexpected death of a very notable person who has just been reelected, so I don't see how posting it can be controversial. His unexpected death will have real consequences which would not otherwise have occured, and is therefore undeniably news. Thue | talk 09:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I highly object this nomination, and the matter it was reposted. I fail to see how this item merits mentioning when this has been discussed at WP:LILP and in this page when various other deaths were nominated.

All the other people who have been discussed have been old irrelevant people dying, with no real effect on current events. This was a infamous party leader dying while he was relevant for the current government formation in Austra. Don't you see the difference? I also stand by my reposting - no specific arguments against its posting had been made, and I did not believe that Tone's removal was fully though through - it was formulated like a form letter with no specific object to Haiders importance or the consequences of his death. A final point: consider another event (not a death), with similar consequences for the Austrian right wing; that would probably be notable; as far as I can tell it is only because this happens to be a death and there have been some doubtful deaths on ITN in the past that people object here.

In the past the rule for deaths on ITN was "no deaths - except for unexpected deaths of people office or where the death had significant consequences for current events" - has that been revoked? Thue | talk 13:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I must also point out that you shouldn't have reverted the edit you previously posted without seeking proper consensus. Waiting for 1 hour here is insufficient in my opinion given the normal traffic in this page. - Mtmelendez ^(Talk) 12:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I have removed it, as it seems to be controversial, and now disputed. I encourage further discussion as to whether it should be included in the news. Cenarium ^Talk 13:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Let's move on from the procedural questions. He's not on WP:LILP, a page I've only just seen, which IMO is a risible attempt to implement a hopeless idea. Austria is negotiating to form a new government and the leader of the fourth-largest party has just died; I think that's enough extra beyond just a death. How much context should be provided in the ITN hook is another matter. jnestorius^(talk) 13:49, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose, as of now. Jörg Haider#Death is too short right now. That section needs expansion. Sufficient expansion. Spencer^T♦C 14:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted again, by User:Delirium. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:15, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose, why is this posted without consensus? 18.96.7.148 (talk) 04:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Delirium's edit summary included WP:UCS ([4]), although I am not sure what he is trying to say by including this link. "Use common sense" does not mean "ignore consensus", does it? The page specifically states that "you will need to persuade the rest of the community that your actions improved the encyclopedia". --BorgQueen (talk) 04:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed again, one has to seek consensus to post an item to ITN, not to remove it. --Tone 08:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Here's my 2 cents. I agree that anyone who brings up Pavarotti, Hillary and whoever else is missing the point. Also LILP doesn't really apply since the idea was those people warrant inclusion even if they die in their old age when everyone was expecting it (although I'd personally dispute some of the names on the list, e.g. Gordon Brown, Lee Myung-bak; they may be significant now, they have not yet demonstrated lasting significance though IMHO). It's missing a lot of current world leaders for example and most of these should go up if they die tomorrow. So anyway, under the old death criterion (which as far as I'm concerned is still valid), unexpected deaths of world leaders and other people of great current significance should go up. Haider IMHO clearly doesn't fit into this category. However if it's true that his death could have a great effect on the formation of the new Austrian government then this may be enough. But the article definitely needs to establish his death is going to have a significant effect and we do need consensus here Nil Einne (talk) 08:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) I am in favour of the inclusion of this article. He was a politician in office and very much in the spotlight when he died. The update to the article in question (2 short paragraphs on his death, not to mention general expansion the publicity has drawn) is in line for the normal inclusion of a news event. Important people such as the president of Austria have specifically addressed the news. While this should have gained consensus before being posted, it is a worthy candidate. :Random89 16:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

ALSO: It's about time we added a new item and this seems to be the best candidate. Random89 16:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a comment: WP:LILP applies to those that didn't have unexpected deaths, such as someone like Edmund Hillary. Spencer^T♦C 17:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I was going to ask Why are people arguing against the inclusion of this unexpected death of a prominent politician whose death could have significant political effects, I can see it's arguably borderline. Between "if it's true that his death could have a great effect on the formation of the new Austrian government [...] the article definitely needs to establish his death is going to have a significant effect" and "The update to the article in question (2 short paragraphs on his death, not to mention general expansion the publicity has drawn) is in line for the normal inclusion of a news event." I'm leaning towards inclusion also. TransUtopian (talk) 17:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nom: Singapore Police Commissioner Khoo Boon Hui is elected the new president of Interpol. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Needs more refs and a longer update. Spencer^T♦C 13:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

This hasn't been in the news enough to begin with.--chaser - t 15:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nom: 2008 Chechnya earthquake maybe? --Tone 15:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Too short. I'll try to expand this. Spencer^T♦C 17:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Meets minimum expansion requirements. Could use some section headers, but I'm posting. Spencer^T♦C 18:23, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

• Not a candidate for inclusion... I'm requesting the 2008 Chechnya earthquake be removed from ITN. Its notability, with a magnitude less than 6 in an area where earthquakes are not exactly unusual, is questionable. --Kitch ^{(Talk : Contrib)} 01:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Note that the item isn't focusing on the magnitude, but on the number of deaths. Spencer^T♦C 10:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

October 10

October 10, 2008 (2008-10-10) (Friday)

• Pirate spokesman threatens to blow up MV Faina, which has been held off the coast of Somalia since September 25, if $20 million is not paid by October 13. (BBC News)
• The president of Peru accepts the resignation of his entire cabinet in response to an oil kickbacks scandal. (AP via Yahoo News)
• Gunmen kill 11 in a bar in Mexico in drug smuggling related violence. (Reuters via Irish Times)
• 27 people were killed by a suicide car bomb in Pakistan near the Afghanistan border during a tribal meeting planning the eviction of the Taliban from the area. (BBC News)
• Dozens of bodies that washed ashore in Yemen are believed to be from the 130 migrants from Somalia thrown overboard by smugglers; prompting calls for action against human trafficking in the Gulf of Aden. (AP via Yahoo News)
• An Alaskan legislative committee finds that the Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her authority in terminating the Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan. (AP via The New York Times)
• The Connecticut Supreme Court rules that gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry in Connecticut. (CNN)
• Oxfam says those needing food aid in Ethiopia has risen to 6.4 million, nearly two million more than in June . (Radio Netherlands Worldwide)
• NATO ministers reach a deal after overcoming resistance from France, Italy and Germany by agreeing that only willing countries temporarily "act in concert with the Afghans, against [drug] facilities". (Deutsche Welle)
• Nobel Prize:
  • The Nobel peace prize is awarded to former Finnish president Martti Ahtisaari for mediation for the resolution of international conflicts who, as a UN special envoy, guided Namibia to independence in 1990, oversaw the 2005 reconciliation between the government of Indonesia and rebels in Aceh, and mediated a peace deal in Kosovo.(AFP via Yahoo News)
• Former Russian cross country ski champion Alexey Prokurorov dies after he is hit by a car while crossing a road in Vladimir.(RIA Novosti)
• A Swedish appellate court sentences Chilean opera tenor Ernesto "Tito" Beltrán to two years and six months in prison for raping an 18-year-old nanny and molesting a 7-year-old girl.(Associated Press)
• North Korea draws nearer to a compromise in a nuclear deal that would prompt Washington to remove it from a list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. (Reuters via Yahoo News)
• Global financial crisis of September–October 2008:
  • European markets fall steeply upon opening. (BBC News)
  • Fears of a global recession send Asian markets tumbling. (AP via Yahoo News)
  • The Australian Stock Exchange suffers its greatest fall since the crash of 1987 (The Age).
  • The Dow Jones finished down 128 points, after twice reaching down 700 points and below 8000 points. (CNN)
  • The United States Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson says that the Bush administration will proceed with plans to buy stocks in United States financial institutions.(AP via USA Today)
  • Group of Seven finance ministers who met in Washington with International Monetary Fund chief and World Bank president announce a plan to combat the crisis including the use of "all available tools" to support key institutions and prevent their failure. (NineMSN)
• Leaders of the anti-government protests in Thailand surrender to thepolice. (BBC)
• The Republic of China (Taiwan) celebrates its 97th National Anniversary on Double Ten Day, with its newly elected President Ma Ying-jeou. (The China Post)
• Scores missing as migrant vessel sinks off the coast of northern Morocco in a route used by illegal migrants trying to reach Europe. (BBC News)
• Fifteen killed when JEM rebels ambush a government convoy in west Darfur. (AFP via Yahoo News)

ITN candidates for October 10

Procedural note: Martti Ahtisaari item was posted. Spencer^T♦C 02:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

October 9

October 9, 2008 (2008-10-09) (Thursday)

• Narcoterrorist attack on a military convoy by Shining Path guerrillas kills 19 including women and children in southeast Peru. (AFP via Yahoo News)
• Montenegro and Macedonia recognize Kosovo, bringing the total number of United Nations members recognising Kosovo to fifty. (International Herald Tribune)
• The U.S. National Security Agency is accused of listening to Americans' private phone conversations.(ABC News)
• Nobel Prize:
  • French writer Jean-Marie Gustave Le Clézio is announced the winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Literature.
• 2008 Pacific hurricane season : Tropical Storm Odile forms south of Mexico while Hurricane Norbert weakens to tropical storm strength northwest of Odile. (AP via Google News)
• Global financial crisis of September–October 2008:
  • Head of International Monetary Fund says the US financial crisis threatens to send the world into a recession. IMF releases World Economic Outlook report with gloomy projections for the global financial system. (Deutsche Welle)
  • The Dow Jones Industrial Average falls by 678.91 points to 8,579.19 points. (New York Times)
  • Greece introduces a 100,000 Euro guarantee for the 230 billion Euro bank deposits in the country for three years, well above the EU-wide Ecofin-mandated minimum of 50,000 Euro for one year, and gives assurances that the Greek banking system is stable, while the Greek central bank announces a drop in the expected growth of the Greek economy to 3.3% (from 4%) because of decreased consumption caused by high petrol and food prices. (ekathimerini), (ekathimerini), (Forbes), (Wikinews)
  • Kaupthing Bank, Iceland's largest bank, is nationalized by the country's Financial Supervisory Authority. (Bloomberg)
• North Korea has forbidden ships to sail in an area of the Yellow Sea as it prepares for the launch of 10 short-range missiles. (Reuters) (BBC News)
• Democratic Republic of the Congo accuses Rwanda of sending troops across the border, threatening the city of Goma. (BBC News)
• War on Terrorism:
  • NATO commander U.S. Army Gen. Bantz J. Craddock asks member countries for authority to target drug trade in Afghanistan. (Reuters)
  • U.S. claims 27 militants killed in military operations in Afghanistan (AFP via Yahoo News)
  • Suicide bomber attacks police headquarters in Pakistani capital of Islamabad, wounding eight. Two air strikes northwest of Pakistan kill 20 militants. (Reuters)
  • US missile strikes in northwest of Pakistan kill at least nine. (BBC News) (AP via Yahoo News)
  • A roadside bomb in north-western Pakistan hits a school bus and a prison vehicle, killing four school children and at least six others. (BBC News)
• Court in the United Kingdom hears of how two doctors planned car bomb attacks on London and Glasgow airports in revenge for how UK was treating Muslims (BBC News)
• NATO plans on sending seven warships to protect United Nations food aid from Piracy in Somalia. (Radio Netherlands Worldwide)
• North Korea ends its nuclear freeze as it prepares to restart a nuclear facility (AP via Yahoo News)
• No candidate wins a majority in the Maldives' first democratic presidential election; the incumbent Maumoon Abdul Gayoom will face Mohamed Nasheed in a runoff. (Minivan News)
• Los Zetas of the Gulf Cartel suspected killers of 5 police near Guadalajara during nationwide crackdown in Mexico. (AP via Yahoo News)

ITN candidates for October 9

Nobel Prize medal

Nom: French writer Jean-Marie Gustave Le Clézio is announced the winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Literature (medal pictured). --Hapsala (talk) 11:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted, without medal (if you find a photo of author, it would be great). --Tone 11:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Nom: Emma Watson is coming to the United States.

Um...good for her? -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 18:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion made by anon [5] for those wondering. Nil Einne (talk) 21:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment - General Motors lost a third of its value today, and S&P is expected to cut its bond rating even further, which will seriously jeopardize its ability to remain liquid. It may also create additional turmoil in United States financial markets, up to and including the collapse of the company. The article should be updated accordingly as this item might end up in the news sooner rather than later. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 22:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Ditto for Ford Motor Co.. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 22:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC

Er this isn't really the place to suggest people update an article. And items only end up on ITN when their articles have been updated, not before Nil Einne (talk) 21:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Nom: The 2008–2012 Icelandic financial crisis. Several major banks have gone under and the country is on the verge of unprecedented financial collapse, if its not there already. Scanlan (talk) 23:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you have any wording suggestions? Spencer^T♦C 23:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Since I have been trying to have an item on this added for the last two days, I definitely support this nom. Look to Oct 7 noms for possible ideas to rewording. __meco (talk) 06:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Should update to have something like Global financial crisis deepens as markets around the world drop 7-8%

Strong Support - This really should have been on a couple of days ago because a country on the verge of bankruptcy trumps any bank collapse or bailout package. A slightly modified version of User meco's suggested headline should be good:

Iceland's Prime Minister Geir Haarde warns Icelanders the nation may go bankrupt as the country's banking industry starts to collapse under the weight of the global financial crisis --Daviessimo (talk) 18:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Er while we definitely need a story on this and we now have a decent article (even if perhaps a bit too focused on the UK) our article doesn't say anything about him warning Icelanders the nation may go bankrupt. Instead it says he stated "that the actions taken by the government have ensured that the Icelandic state will not go bankrupt". As with all things on the main page, we defer to the article for ITN headlines. Nil Einne (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. You are welcome to rephrase as you see fit. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the initial wording of the blurb is inadequate. Haarde's warning that the country may go bankrupt is well documented in Financial crisis of 2007-2008#Week of October 5, 2008 (and the Iceland article even) and should be copied over to the 2008–2012 Icelandic financial crisis article. My PC mouse isn't working currently, so I won't do it, but others should and the ITN blurb should be updated subsequently. __meco (talk) 09:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

October 8

October 8, 2008 (2008-10-08) (Wednesday)

• 2008 Ukrainian political crisis:
  • Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko dissolves Parliament and calls an early election. (Reuters)
• Former South African Defence Minister Mosiuoa Lekota says that it is "inevitable" that South Africa's ruling African National Congress (ANC) will split. (BBC News)
• The United States embassy in Beirut seeks assistance in finding two US journalists missing in Lebanon. (CNN)
• Nobel Prize:
  • The 2008 Nobel Prize in Chemistry is awarded Osamu Shimomura, Martin Chalfie, and Roger Y. Tsien for the discovery and development of the green fluorescent protein (GFP).(Nobel Foundation)
• Yeti Airlines Flight 103 crashes in the Everest region of Nepal killing 18 passengers. (AFP via Google News)
• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • Britain's Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling releases details of a rescue package aimed at restoring confidence in British Banks. As part of the deal the British Government will provide £50bn of investment, provide a further £200bn in short term loans and guarantee up to £250bn of intra-bank loans (BBC News)
  • The United States Federal Reserve Board cuts interest rates by half a percentage point to 1.5% as part of coordinated activity with the European Central Bank and other central banks. (Los Angeles Times), (New York Times)
  • Ford Motor's Volvo subsidiary tripled the number of jobs it planned to cut to 6,000 positions, or 25 percent of its work force, citing a "rapidly deteriorating" auto market.(CNN)
• 2008 Russian financial crisis:
  • The RTS and MICEX stock exchanges halt trading until Friday after opening for just more than half an hour as prices plummeted in tune with the overall situation in the world's stock markets and falling oil prices. (Interfax via Onet.pl)
• Voters go to the polls in the Maldivian presidential election, the first democratic elections held in the Maldives, with six candidates including incumbent Maumoon Abdul Gayoom. (AFP)

ITN candidates for October 8

Viktor Yushchenko

• Nom: Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko (pictured) dissolves Parliament and calls an early election. --Hapsala (talk) 20:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Article needs updates, and also Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2008 could use expansion. Spencer^T♦C 22:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Some more updates and this can go on. --Tone 11:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nom: Further to my comment below about excessive Nobel prizes, here is an alternative: Voters go to the polls in the Maldivian presidential election, the first democratic elections held in the Maldives, with six candidates including incumbent Maumoon Abdul Gayoom. SteveRwanda (talk) 11:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Article needs updates, I'll see if I can help here. Spencer^T♦C 22:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Updating done. Do we want to wait for results or focus that these are the Maldives' first democratic elections and post now? Spencer^T♦C 01:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe we could already include who will go in the run-off since this will be known soon? Support inclusion. --Tone 11:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Official announcement at 1830 UTC...in about 5 hrs. Can we wait? Spencer^T♦C 13:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure, post it then. And if you have noticed, we have the picture issue again in the template, the image refers to the last item. --Tone 13:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

We can use a picture of Gayoom...there's one on commons. I'll upload it here. Spencer^T♦C 13:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Image is at Image:Maumoon Gayoom.jpg. Spencer^T♦C 14:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to put this up now, because I want to put up the Iceland item, and we need an image. Posting... Spencer^T♦C 16:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Image was a copyvio, so we still need another... Spencer^T♦C 18:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) We have Image:Gayoom1.jpg now, but its tiny and turned to the side. Spencer^T♦C 20:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

• New wording, results finalised: After neither candidate failed to win a majority in the Maldives' first democratic presidential election, the incumbent Maumoon Abdul Gayoom will face Mohamed Nasheed in a runoff.

Posting this update. Spencer^T♦C 23:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Nobel Prize medal

• Nom: The 2008 Nobel Prize in Chemistry (medal pictured) is awarded Osamu Shimomura, Martin Chalfie, and Roger Y. Tsien for the discovery and development of the green fluorescent protein (GFP). --Hapsala (talk) 10:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. Note the change of the wording, noone is awarded the prize until December. --Tone 10:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if this is the right place, but I think having three of the four ITN entries as Nobel prizes is not very balanced. Could they not be merged into one entry? SteveRwanda (talk) 11:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I second that. __meco (talk) 12:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd prefer more various items as well, there are many things going on. At pace one Nobel per day and one other event per day we can keep the balance. --Tone 13:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, all Nobel Prize announcements have been featured on ITN since the birth of Wikipedia. --Hapsala (talk) 21:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate British banking rescue package. The actual value of the deal is £500bn (approx $800-900bn), which is larger than the US deal. Also by making a £50bn investment and not just loaning the money the British Government are in effect partly nationalising the whole banking sector --Daviessimo (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I support this. Stands out as the biggest event of the day so far with respect to the finances crisis. __meco (talk) 12:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to have a little more content in the article but otherwise I support it. What would the blurb be? --Tone 13:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

When I get home in a couple of hours i'll expand it (unless someone gets there first). The blurb should be something Like: The Bank Of England announces details of a financial rescue package aimed at restoring confindence in the Banking sector. Depending on the size issue the clarifying sentence As part of the deal the British Government will provide £50bn of investment, provides a further £200bn in short term loans and guarentees upto £250bn of intra-bank loans could be added although its not neccesary. --Daviessimo (talk) 14:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I've had a go at adding new information to the article so its a bit more expansive now. As for the blurb having read other sources I think it should be:

'The British Government announces details of a financial rescue package aimed at restoring confindence and creating stability in the banking sector' --Daviessimo (talk) 17:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Great, adding. --Tone 19:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

October 7

October 7, 2008 (2008-10-07) (Tuesday)

• Portugal recognizes Kosovo.(BalkanInsight)
• War on Terrorism in Afghanistan:
  • In talks brokered by Saudi Arabia, the Taliban renounces its ties to al-Qaeda and sues for peace with Afghanistan. (CNN)
• Nobel Prize:
  • The 2008 Nobel Prize in Physics is awarded Yoichiro Nambu for the discovery of the mechanism of spontaneous broken symmetry in subatomic physics, and Makoto Kobayashi and Toshihide Maskawa for the discovery of the origin of the broken symmetry which predicts the existence of at least three families of quarks in nature.(Wall Street Journal)(Nobel Foundation)
• 2008 Thai political crisis: The anti-government protester group were injured as police attacked barricades outside Thailand's parliament in Bangkok injuring over 400 people, 2 found dead. (BBC News) (Reuters)
• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • Russia agrees to provide Iceland with emergency loans of 4 billion euros ($5.4 billion).(Reuters)
  • Iceland's Financial Supervisory Authority takes control of troubled Landsbanki Bank.(MarketWatch)
  • The Reserve Bank of Australia reduces interest rates by 100 basis points to 6.0 per cent to combat the effect of the subprime mortgage crisis. (Financial Times)
  • The United States Federal Reserve announces plans to buy billions of dollars of short-term commercial paper to restore liquidity to the money market. (Los Angeles Times)
  • The Chairman of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke warns that the crisis will weaken the United States economy well into 2009 and expressed a willingness to cut interest rates. (CNN Money)
  • The Dow Jones Industrial Average falls by 500 points following Bernanke's comments. (New York Times)
• 2008 Russian financial crisis:
  • President Dmitry Medvedev announces an extra 950 billion roubles ($36.4 billion) of new emergency credit for banks at a Kremlin meeting. (Reuters)
• A Hungarian plane is forced to land in Iran, countering earlier reports of a US military jet being forced to land for violating Iranian airspace. (BBC News)
• A bus carrying farm workers returning from Houtkop Farm plunges off a bridge on the outskirts of Piet Retief, Mpumalanga, South Africa, killing at least 31 and injuring 29.Condolences conveyed after Mpumalanga horror crash (SABC News)30 die, including two kids, as bus plunges off bridge (Sowetan)

ITN candidates for October 7

Nobel Prize medal

Nom: The 2008 Nobel Prize in Physics (medal pictured) is awarded Yoichiro Nambu for the discovery of the mechanism of spontaneous broken symmetry in subatomic physics, and Makoto Kobayashi and Toshihide Maskawa for the discovery of the origin of the broken symmetry which predicts the existence of at least three families of quarks in nature. --Hapsala (talk) 10:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 12:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, a long one! Could not be shortened, like Nambu, Maskawa and Kobayashi are awarded the Nobel Prize for their discoveries in particle physics. No need to go into such details on ITN, I suppose less people know what broken symmetry is that some specific sport championship. I support the inclusion by all means, otherwise. --Tone 13:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, if they don't understand, they should click on the link and learn something new... ;) --Hapsala (talk) 14:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate TC3 meteor impact. Very encyclopaedic news item and something a little less doom and gloom --Daviessimo (talk) 20:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Support this nom for the good reason given by nominator. __meco (talk) 21:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. Nice item. I wanted to link to Impact event but didn't since this was just a bigger rock and we don't want to cause panick. The blurb could be improved, though. --Tone 21:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Nominate Iceland's Prime Minister Geir Haarde warns Icelanders the nation may go bankrupt as the country's banking industry starts to collapse under the weight of the global financial crisis. The króna drops 30% in one day. __meco (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Is there a boldened article you had in mind? Spencer^T♦C 03:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Iceland should be boldened. The article currently has a short section on the crisis. __meco (talk) 07:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I think this is very important and if the article can be updated if should definately go up. I read today that the country is in debt to the tune of 4 times the value of all the national assets. --Daviessimo (talk) 18:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The article Economy of Iceland is the one that seems to have the most comprehensive update on the situation. Now that the UK's Gordon Brown has threatened to sure Iceland over the conduct of the Icelandic banks' UK branches, Iceland only gets more important as far as ITN is concerned. I have an updated suggestion for a blurb:

Iceland's Prime Minister Geir Haarde warns Icelanders the nation may go bankrupt as the country's banking industry starts to collapse under the weight of the global financial crisis. The króna drops 30% in one day and British PM Gordon Brown threatens to sue Iceland over defaulting Icelandic bank branches in the United Kingdom.

__meco (talk) 20:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

October 6

October 6, 2008 (2008-10-06) (Monday)

• The MESSENGER spacecraft makes its second pass of the planet Mercury.(NYT)
• An earthquake of magnitude 6.6 hits near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, killing 60 people. (USGS) (CNN)
• Another earthquake of magnitude 6.4, with two magnitude-5 aftershocks, hits Damxung, Tibet, People's Republic of China, with conflicting casualty reports anywhere from 9 to 30 deaths. (USGS) (CNN)
• Nobel Prize:
  • The 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine goes to Harald zur Hausen of Germany for his discovery of the human papilloma viruses that can cause cervical cancer in women, and Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier of France for their discovery of human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV. (BBC News)
• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • The Dow Jones Industrial Average falls by as much as 800.06 points, its biggest intraday drop on record; the Dow closed below the 10,000 mark for the first time since October 26, 2004. (MarketWatch)
  • Speaking before a U.S. House Committee, Richard Fuld, CEO of failed Lehman Brothers says that he believed all his decisions "were both prudent and appropriate" given the information he had at the time.(New York Times)
  • Significant losses are marked on stock exchanges worldwide: São Paulo Stock Exchange suspended trading after a 15 percent drop in its benchmark index. (Reuters)
  • The UK's leading share index, the FTSE 100 closes down 391.1 points (7.85%), the largest single-day points fall since it was launched in 1984. The French CAC 40 also recorded a record drop of 9.04%, whilst Germany's DAX finished down 7.09%. (BBC News)
  • United States Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson announces that Neel Kashkari will be in charge of administering the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.(NASDAQ)
• 2008 Russian financial crisis:
  • Trading is suspended on Russia's leading stock exchanges after shares plunged nearly 20 percent amid a backdrop of falling oil prices and fears over the global economy. (International Herald Tribune) (MarketWatch)
• A suicide blast in the Sri Lankan town of Anuradhapura has killed 25 people, including the former army general Janaka Perera. (BBC News)
• Nancy Kissel loses an appeal against her conviction of murdering her husband Robert Kissel in Hong Kong in 2003. (Bloomberg via Hong Kong Standard)
• U.S. to rely on Russia for manned space flights between 2010 and 2015. (International Herald Tribune)
• Human Rights Watch says Somalia is the "most ignored tragedy" and the international community has "completely failed Somali civilians" regarding the destruction of Mogadishu. (BBC News)
• Thousands of anti-government protesters march in Bangkok as People's Alliance for Democracy demand elected government step down. (Agence France Press)
• The 2008 Monorierdő train collision in Hungary leads to the resignation of the transport minister and the president of Hungarian State Railways.

ITN candidates for October 6

Nobel Prize medal

• Nom: The 2008 Nobel Prize in Medicine (medal pictured) goes to Harald zur Hausen of Germany for his discovery of the human papilloma viruses that can cause cervical cancer in women, and Francoise Barre-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier of France for their discovery of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). --Hapsala (talk) 11:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  Looks good, posted. ffm 13:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

• Nominate Global stock market falls. I know this is nothing new but for so many major markets to fall so much in one day is something that hasn't been seen for many years now. With the recent US focus maybe this time we could have a focus on Europe, with ftse's largest drop since '87 and France's CAC having its biggest drop ever. Brazils market being suspended may also be worth a mention. --Daviessimo (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose: As you said, nothing new is enough to justify vote. Instead earthquakes might be taken up to bring back balance. --gppande «talk» 19:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Well for both the FTSE100 and CAC40 to have record one day falls is pretty big. In the case of the FTSE it was larger than during the 87 collapse and Sept11th. In France almost 1/10th of the value of the top companies was wiped out. Anyway there is no reason why both cannot go up. --Daviessimo (talk) 21:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Support These drops are record breaking. The Norwegian OBX Index dropped 9.71%, its third biggest fall ever. __meco (talk) 22:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Er I think were getting ahead of ourselves here. Where's the updated article/s? What's the proposed wording? N.B. At the current time Subprime mortgage crisis doesn't mention any drop after 6th October Nil Einne (talk) 10:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Earthquakes striking Nura, Kyrgyzstan and Damxung, Tibet cause the deaths of 72 and 30 people, respectively. (Both articles need expanding, I realise.) Daniel (talk) 05:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Support - --gppande «talk» 06:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

This is big. Could someone please expand the articles so we can put them up? --Tone 21:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I just expanded the Nura earthquake one, but is it too late to go up? Spencer^T♦C 22:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Strong Support. This is very important, but the blurb could be a bit better, and the Kyrgyzstan quake is now responsible for 75 deaths. There's still time, I added an image, but please hurry because I am still upset that we missed the 2008 Panzhihua earthquake a while back. ~AH1^(TCU) 20:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

October 5

October 5, 2008 (2008-10-05) (Sunday)

• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • The German government moves to back troubled Hypo Real Estate with a 50 billion euro rescue plan. (MarketWatch)
  • German Chancellor Angela Merkel announces that Germany will explicitly guarantee the deposits in banks held by its citizens. (MarketWatch)
• Rugby League: The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles win the 2008 NRL Grand Final, defeating the Melbourne Storm 40-0. (AAP via the Melbourne Age)
• Thai police arrest former mayor of Bangkok and protest leader Chamlong Srimuang on charges of insurrection. (AP via Newsday)

• 2008 South Ossetia war
  • Russian President Dmitry Medvedev ordered the Defense Ministry, law enforcement agencies and the Foreign Ministry to investigate a bombing in the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, on 3 October, 2008. A car, carrying weapons, was detained by Russian peacekeepers in Georian village and transported to Tskhinvali, where it exploded. EU and Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development earlier condemned this 'act of terrorism'. Georgian authorities claimed 'Russian special services' 'were behind' the blast that left 7 servicemen of Russian peacekeeping forces dead. (Rustavi 2) (RIAN) (NY Times)
    • Earlier, on October 2, an attempt of assassination of head of the Akhalgori Ossetian administration, Anatoli Margiev failed. He survived the explosion of a bomb planted on a road in Georgian village while driving to Tskhinvali, South Ossetia. (Rustavi 2)
  • Russian troops are dismantling positions in security zones on the border of South Ossetia and Georgia created after the war, a Georgian Interior Ministry official said. (AP via Google News).
• Authorities detain separatist leader and impose curfew in anticipation of a separatist rally to be held on Monday in Kashmir. (BBC News)
• Apirak Kosayothin is re-elected as Governor of Bangkok. (Thai News Agency)
• Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari acknowledges his government's consent to US air strikes in Pakistan and says India has never been a threat. (BBC News)
• Senior British Commander says military victory in Afghanistan is impossible. (CBC News)

ITN candidates for October 5

• Suggest Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles keep the Melbourne Storm scoreless in the 2008 NRL Grand Final and defeat them by a record 40-0 margin. - c4v3m4n 12:34 October 5, 2008 (UTC)

I'm on the fence for this one. It's not on WP:ITNSPORTS, but most of all 2008_NRL_Grand_Final#Match_Summary needs to be filled in if this should have any chance of going up. We may need an update, as we're behind by 47 hours. Spencer^T♦C 16:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I have updated some of the match summary and added some pictures too. - c4v3m4n 17:04 October 5, 2008 (UTC)

• Support: Though I would prefer the wording: The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles defeat the Melbourne Storm 40-0, a record breaking margin, to win the 2008 NRL Grand Final, but I support candidate regardless of the wording. Ben (talk) 20:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

However, the article only has one ref now. Can you add some more? Spencer^T♦C 20:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

More references have been added, I think its ready for the Main Page - c4v3m4n (talk · contribs) 22:35 October 5, 2008 (UTC)

I added still some more, and it could still use some more. But it is suitable to go up now. Spencer^T♦C 01:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Posted. fish&karate 14:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

WTF is all I can say after I saw this put up. –Howard the Duck 17:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

The summary should mention that this is Rugby that is being talked aboutKilrogg (talk) 18:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Really? I know we were starved for updates, but I take a break from ITN and come back to see this on the mainpage? I can't really complain because I didn't suggest anything better, but I don't think the is mainpage-worthy. Random89 23:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I was planning to object when I first saw the proposal but decided not to bother since I often seem to be in a minority of one when it comes to these sort of things. Also I thought since AFL is on the list and we're still discussing sticking the elections, why not? (Although from [6] it does appear there is merit to have the AFL and not the NRL). Perhaps I should have voiced my opinion since for once it appears I'm not alone. Nil Einne (talk) 09:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually it's rugby league not rugby. Note that while Rugby Union is often called rugby it's rare that rugby league is called rugby (instead football or league usually). Anyway be that as it may, I agree with the general point that it should mention what sport if refers to. Nil Einne (talk) 09:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't do ITN very much, but it was worryingly slow at the time of posting, this was the only outstanding suggestions, and it seemed okay to me (we have plenty of other sports finals of limited regional interest only); if there were more good suggestions, this sort of thing probably wouldn't have gotten posted. fish&karate 13:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Just so it's based on the U.S. it means it's not followed elsewhere. Baseball's big in Taiwan (ROC) and Japan, and hockey's big in the Baltics. Can't say the same for the Super Bowl, but I heard it's big in Mexico... –Howard the Duck 13:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Apirak Kosayothin is re-elected as Governor of Bangkok.

• I'm still working on the article, but should be done soon enough. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 19:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Generally, local elections aren't put on ITN, even for capital cities (i.e., I don't think London went up). Is there something different about this election, besides being in Bangkok? Spencer^T♦C 20:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Not really, apart from the fact that PAD leader Chamlong Srimuang was arrested as he went to cast his vote (already in the current events portal), a fact which should more properly be discussed in 2008 Thai political crisis, but isn't very significant all the same. That article also needs a lot of updating. --Paul_012 ^(talk) 20:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to have to oppose this because of notability issues, and the article could also use inline citations. Spencer^T♦C 01:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

October 4

October 4, 2008 (2008-10-04) (Saturday)

• Police find nine more dead bodies around the Mexican city of Tijuana with 50 people having died over the past week as a result of a week of drug trade related violence. (AP via Google)
• Mahir al-Zubaydi, senior commander for al Qaeda in Iraq for Baghdad east of the Tigris River, is killed by U.S. troops. (BBC News)
• 2008 South Ossetia war:
  • Colonel Ivan Petrik, chief of staff of the Russian ground force in South Ossetia, is confirmed dead from wounds he suffered in the Friday blast in Tskhinvali.(Reuters)
  • Switzerland will represent Russian interests in Georgia (Rustavi 2). Sweden will represent Georgian interests in Russia.(Stockholm News)

October 3

October 3, 2008 (2008-10-03) (Friday)

• 2008 South Ossetia war aftermath:
  • An attempt of assassination of head of the Akhalgori Ossetian administration, Anatoli Margiev failed. He survived the explosion of a bomb planted on a road in Georgian village while driving to Tskhinvali, South Ossetia. (Rustavi 2)
  • Two teenagers are injured after blowing up a landmine at the territory of the military base in Gori, Georgia. (Rustavi 2)
  • Seven Russian soldiers die from an explosion in breakaway South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali. (Bloomberg) (Civil Georgia) (CNN)
  • PACE calls for international probe into the 2008 South Ossetia war. (Civil Georgia)
• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • U.S. President George W. Bush signs the US$ 700,000,000,000 bailout bill after it is passed by the House. (NPR News)
• In response to the 2008 Chinese milk scandal, Australia begins withdrawing Chinese-made Kirin milk tea from shops after discovering it contained melamine in tests. (The Australian)
• Greece announces it will follow Ireland's lead and guarantee all bank deposits in the country. (RTÉ)
• 2008 Russian financial crisis:
  • Both of Russia's main stock exchanges, the MICEX and RTS, suspend trading of stocks "for technical reasons" as the markets rally after a 1-1/2 day trading halt that ended earlier in the morning. (Financial Times)
  • Trading is suspended for a second and a third time in the same day at the RTS stock exchange as Russian equities tumble. The dollar-denominated stock index was last down 7.8% in intraday trading. At MICEX, index fell 6.2% in intraday trading. (MarketWatch)
• Investigators in the United States announce that they have found human remains in what is believed to be the wreckage of Steve Fossett's plane, which went missing over California a year ago. (BBC News)
• United States government announces sale of billions of dollars of arms to Taiwan to keep a balance with China's massive arms buildup aimed at Taiwan. (CBC News)
• Russia's foreign minister calls for international action to halt piracy in Somalia. (BBC News)
• The remains of a Viking-era stave church, including the skeletal remains of a woman, is uncovered near the cemetery of the Lännäs church in Odensbacken outside Örebro in central Sweden. (The Local)
• A jury convicts retired American football player O.J. Simpson of armed robbery and kidnapping, 13 years to the day after he was acquitted of killing his ex-wife and her friend in Los Angeles. (New York Times)

October 2

October 2, 2008 (2008-10-02) (Thursday)

• Sarah Palin and Joe Biden have their only scheduled debate for the vice presidency of the United States. (ABC)(WP)
• Ukrainian President, Viktor Yushchenko may face impeachment on charges of undermining national security, and illegal arms trade with Georgia months before the attack on Tskhinvali, South Ossetia, says Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. Yushchenko earlier said the arms trade charges are "unsubstantiated". (USA Today) (Bikilar.Az) (The Times) (France24) (BBC News) (Izvestia)
• The commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service and the most senior policeman in the United Kingdom, Sir Ian Blair, announces that he will stand down from his post in December of this year, citing a lack of support from London Mayor Boris Johnson. (BBC News)
• A search team finds the wreckage of the airplane flown by adventurer Steve Fossett in the mountains of Madera County, California, and what appears to be some of his personal effects nearby. Fossett had disappeared on September 3, 2007. (Sydney Daily Telegraph)
• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • The United States Securities and Exchange Commission says it would extend the short-sale ban to as long as October 17 or up to three business days after the passage of the proposed bailout plan, but will not make it permanent. (MarketWatch)
  • The Wall Street Journal reports that the short-sale ban fails to prevent stock-price declines, increases the volatility in the stock market and makes trading more expensive for investors. (MarketWatch)
  • U.S. House of Representatives Majority Leader Steny Hoyer says that no Democrats who opposed the proposed bailout plan earlier this week have pledged to back it. (Bloomberg)

ITN candidates for October 2

• Nomination - Revised to existing ITN item:

On October 1, 2008, the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act in revised form is approved by the United States Senate and is sent to the U.S. House of Representatives, for reconsideration. Two days earlier the House rejected a different version of the bill, and the Dow Jones stock market index dropped of 777.68 points, or seven percent.

I leave it to reviewers and editors to edit this down as you see fit, and to ascertain its newsworthiness. I'm off line for 10 hours. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 04:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Support, but wait until if its passed by the House and the article is subsuquently updated, or if it fails, the market consenquences it has. Spencer^T♦C 00:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

October 1

October 1, 2008 (2008-10-01) (Wednesday)

• Russia's supreme court declares the imperial dynasty victims of political repression, marking the official rehabilitation of the house of Romanov. The decision overturns a lower court ruling that classified the killings as plain murder, and exonerates Emperor Nicholas II and his family of the alleged crimes the Bolshevik regime used to justify their killing. (Reuters)
• The United States Senate passes the civilian nuclear agreement with India by a vote of 86–13. India has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty, but may now undertake nuclear trade to the States (TOI)
• The National Transportation Safety Board reports that a Metrolink engineer sent a text message 22 seconds before the Chatsworth train collision in Los Angeles, California, that killed 25 people. (CBS)
• Mayor of Melbourne John So announces his resignation. (news.com.au)
• United States Army General David D. McKiernan, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, says that a greater military presence is "needed as quickly as possible." (CNN)
• Subprime mortgage crisis:
  • U.S. Representative Carol Shea-Porter says that "more than 400 economists, including Nobel laureates, appealed to Congress to slow down and make sure [they] got [the bailout bill] right". (NHPR) (Nashua Telegraph)
  • Swedish Minister for Finance Anders Borg slams the culture of "greed" exemplified by U.S. financial institutions and its role in precipitating the current financial crisis. (The Local)
  • The U.S. Senate approves HR1424, a revised version of the proposed bailout of the nation's financial system. (BBC)
• A new U.S. Armed Forces Unified Combatant Command for Africa—AFRICOM—is created. Main functions of AFRICOM include fighting terror, securing oil supplies in Africa, and supporting U.S. foreign policy in the region where Chinese influence is growing. (BBC) (The Nation)
• A series of 4 blasts set off in Agartala, capital of the Indian state of Tripura, killing at least 4 people and injuring 100. Times of India

ITN candidates for October 1

• I'm new to the whole ITN thing, but let me try to give it a shot. From doing a little reading, it seems that ITN should try to be not-stagnant. Since the current blurb on Wall Street losing ~800 points is inaccurate (that happened almost 36 hours ago), I would support its early removal and a replacement with September 30th's data. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 02:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure, the items are changing. However, we don't want to cover everything like in the news but only significant events. The ~800 points drop in one day is significant. If something like a huge sudden rise or another big drop happens, the blurb can be updated. Otherwise, I believe it should stay like this until it is replaces with new ITN items. Did I answer your question? --Tone 08:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

That did indeed answer some of my question. Thank you! However, I was wondering if we could note Tuesday's spike, as it was very significant as well. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:46, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

• Along with the MV Faina article, one could put MV Iran Deyanat, both are pirate hijackings in the news (and they seem almost to be mixed up sometimes in the news, though the first is transporting tanks and the second is transporting who-knows-what, possibly chemical weapons or radioactive waste). zafiroblue05 | Talk 08:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Could be, but what is the recent development here? I can't see this from the article, the hijack happened one month ago. Besides, speculations about the cargo should not be included on ITN. --Tone 08:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

• A series of 4 blasts set off in Agartala, capital of the Indian state of Tripura, killing at least 4 people and injuring 76. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 20:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Support, but the article could use a bit of expansion before going up. Spencer^T♦C 01:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I think the article should have been on the "In news" by now as it is the fourth blast series within a week in India, making it more notable. Disclosure: started 2008 Agartala serial blasts (merged into 2008 Agartala bombings) and contributor to 2008 Agartala bombings.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 16:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment - You say that as this is the fourth blast within a week it makes it more notable but i'll have to be honest I suspect it actually makes it less notable. Just as bombing occurences in Israel/Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan occur too frequently for them all to go up this is becoming the case for India. We have to draw a line at some point otherwise every other news item would be about a bomb explosion. --Daviessimo (talk) 18:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

• Support India-US deal

The United States Senate passes the civilian nuclear agreement between the United States and India by a vote of 86-13. --128.211.201.161 (talk) 02:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)