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Mongolia women's national football team

According to EAFF's meeting, the first preliminary round of 2019 EAFF E-1 Football Championship (women) will be held in Mongolia. As the host, Mongolia will send their women's football team to compete against other women's football team. So can you recover the page of Mongolia women's national football team? — Younis7435 (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

https://eaff.com/news/3786.html, Here's the information that informed Mongolia will host the EAFF event in 2018, as the host, they will send both their men's and women's football team. — Younis7435 (talk) 07:01, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Please read the "wikify!" box that appears at the top of this page when you are editing it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:51, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Template:TTC colour

For earlier parts of this discussion see User_talk:RHaworth/2018 Aug 20#Template:TTC colour

This is Canada - why don't we move it or at least create a redirect at template:TTC couleur?! Nothing is breaking that I have seen but to save {{S-line}} having to go via a redirect every time, the name should use color. Unless Joey objects soon, I shall move {{TTC colour}} back to {{TTC color}}. Another argument comes from Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:TTC colour. There are about 15 templates already using color and the 10 using colour. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

  • My understanding is that redirects are cheap so not sure that's a good reason to move back. Also don't think the 15-to-10 ratio says much of anything since the main template has "lived" at color for quite a while. I assume "couleur" is tongue in cheek given this is 'en'.wikipedia.org. Again, colour and color are valid spellings of the word in English, so really I think this is the S-lime template's limitation ultimately and if that can be worked around by having {{TTC color}} redirect, I think leaving the template at "colour" is most appropriate. — Joeyconnick (talk) 03:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Your arguments do not move me. Yes, redirects are cheap but in this case the need for a redirect would impose a small but permanent overload on the template rendering software. An overload which is easily avoided by using the right name. Surely you realise that nobody except wiki nerds see the title of this template. Be grateful we have redirects - if we were using HTML/CSS we would not have the choice of spelling. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@RHaworth: Thank you for taking care of this. As a Canadian living in the States I am quite sensitive to the linguistic aspects, but as you note, this was a coding issue. — Useddenim (talk) 20:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Jake The Great

Can I know the reason for reverting my edits in my User Page? I have seen many user pages which is similar to mine. So, can I get the reason for reverting my edits in my User Page. — Jake The Great! talk 15:26, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

  • I spent several minutes puzzling over this. I think that somehow I saw this state and thought is was the current state. Feel free to revert my reversion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! — Jake The Great! talk 03:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Please delete...

Hi, can you please delete my Ju 338? You declined it with "unspeedy - perfectly OK redirect" but it was a redirect from Ju 338 to 388 – instead I now created the redirect Ju 388 that is really perfect... Regards and thank you in advance -- Cyfal (talk) 17:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

  • If I did not spot the difference, others might not so perhaps it could be claimed as a plausible redirect. But I have zapped it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! There are so many Ju (Ju 46 Ju 49 Ju 52 Ju 60 Ju 85 Ju 86 Ju 87 Ju 88 Ju 89 Ju 90 Ju 160 Ju 187 Ju 188 Ju 248 Ju 252 Ju 268 Ju 287 Ju 288 Ju 290 Ju 322 Ju 352 Ju 388 Ju 390 Ju 488 Ju 635) thus a redir for misspelling may be misleading... --Cyfal (talk) 21:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deleting CC-BY licensed material

Hi RHaworth, you've deleted two articles - Wentworth Mausoleum and Wentworth Memorial Gardens which correctly used attributed CC-BY licensed material. Can you please undelete these? The nominator was either confused about free licenses or didn't bother to read the attribution section. — The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Nominator more or less acknowledges this. — The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:15, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Wentworth Memorial Church, instead of Wentworth Memorial Gardens refers. Point taken re Wentworth Mausoleum. I will review. With thanks. — Rangasyd (talk) 12:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Syd, I have emailed you your text because you have done formatting and other work but it still needs more work before I would accept it. I hope you have taken to heart my remark about slovenliness - just because a page has a compatible licence does not mean it is suitable as an encyclopedia article. The entire "heritage listing" section must be zapped - we are not interested in the criteria that the Office of Environment and Heritage apply to enter a building on the register. It is just possible that that section contained a few factoids not contained in the rest of the article. If so, please merge them in at appropriate points. Also I am sure there is extensive merging possible of the History and Description sections. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

You are not the arbiter of content for all of Wikipedia. We determine things by consensus: if you have an issue with the article content, the talk page is the appropriate place to raise it. As an administrator, you know these things. This is pretty poor behaviour for an administrator - not to mention refusing to correct your error despite admitting it was deleted on incorrect grounds. — The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:15, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy delete

Hi there, thanks for actioning my request and deleting User:Deon/Userboxen. I did leave a note on the page but it wasn't very obvious so you might have missed it - I was hoping just the most recent revision could be undeleted so the personal information I edited out isn't visible in the page history. Since it's not super-secret stuff, I didn't think it warranted Oversight so hopefully you can just restore the revision that I linked to in the note underneath the CSD banner. Cheers! — Deontalk 11:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Affle

Hi, This is regarding the deletion of the article titled Affle. I was actively editing it to make it comply with Wikipedia policies. I mentioned the same in the article talk page as well. I was in process of editing it as you deleted it (you can see the same if you check the history of the deleted page - if that is even possible). Would you please consider letting me to continue working on it? I am also willing to submit a more neutral version in draft, eventually. However, I'll really appreciate it if you can consider my request to let me work on this version. — Bhatnagar.S (talk) 11:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

  • New messages go at the bottom of this page. All your edits about Affle have now been restored. Any new version must be submitted as a draft. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Broadband Commission Targets

Hi, you removed my page on the broadband commission targets: here. It's actually licences under CC as is indicated on the page. Would it be possible to revert this? — Bquast (talk) 14:21, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

  • No I did not! It was someone else. I hate having to repeat myself: I have already told you here that the list of targets is screamingly unencyclopedic. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that. The targets are used as a benchmark, see e.g. this BBC article https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-44886803 . Regarding the deleting, sorry to accuse you of that, that is what is says here: Broadband Commission Targets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bquast (talk • contribs) 09:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello RHaworth, I would like to recreate this page, it says on the deletion notice that it was copyright infringement, I've solved this issues with the Target section on the Broadband Commission page. With regard to the unencyclopedic content, these targets are similar in nature to e.g. the Sustainable Development Goals, or the Millennium Development Goals. In particular the values such as the affordability target are used as industry benchmarks. Could you please reconsider? — Bquast (talk) 10:09, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

  • If you really insist, re-create it in draft space. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Warina Hussain debacle

Hi. I am sorry about the Warina Hussain - Draft:Warina Hussain - Draft:Warina Hussain/GracyM - User:GracyM/Warina Hussain - User:Iamkreative07/Warina Hussain debacle. I didnt think it would escalate so quickly, and spawn so many pages. I apologise for the mess. And thanks a lot for handling it. — usernamekiran(talk) 17:34, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Perspectives on Psychological Science

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Perspectives on Psychological Science (journal). Since you had some involvement with the Perspectives on Psychological Science (journal) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Ringbang (talk) 01:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Question about article draft deletion

I saw that an article draft I created recently: Draft:The Insurance Emporium was deleted by you with the reasoning G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. I already wrote from a neutral point of view and referenced the content accordingly, so is there anything I can do to improve the content to reverse the deletion? Thanks! DanC345 (talk) 09:33, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Undeletion

Hey RHaworth, could you please help us with this request? We'd like to eliminate copyright issues and continue to edit the article first as a subpage. Regards - Dorgan (talk) 09:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Dear Editor! My contribution has been deleted (Andrew Feldmar) due to unambiguous copyright infringement (G12). I would like to make adjustment in the article and submit it again without the contested parts and checking the references again. I would like to ask you to restore the deleted page or please send a copy of it (as it was suggested to me on the Wikipedia's real-time chat). Thank you! Boribon1990 09:42, 21 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boribon1990 (talk • contribs)
  • You have already been given a necessary and sufficient reply here. You also need to learn about links! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

... ooooh, and you about manner as well. - Dorgan (talk) 10:36, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Deleted the Chainsys page

Dear Sir, I have created the new wiki page for my organization. But due to some reasons deleted my page. Please guide me to how to retain my organization page again to wiki. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSathis (talk • contribs)

Deletion of several pages under G5

For earlier parts of this discussion see here

Talking of context, if you tell me which pages I deleted, I will give you an opinion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, right, here are the pages deleted by citing G5 :— Jawad Rafique Malik; Syed Abu Ahmad Akif; Sikandar Sultan Raja. Whereas, Anthony Appleyard deleted Muhammad Shehzad Arbab and Shahid Mehmood; whilst Younus Dagha was deleted by Tone (talk · contribs). Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 19:00, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
RHaworth Links to what? Sorry, I don't think I follow. P. S. — Sorry for getting on your nerves! Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 18:29, 21 August 2018 (UTC).
  • I don't believe it! You listed three names which, I presume are article titles. Did it ever cross your mind that it might be a courtesy to provide links to those articles like this: Shahid Mehmood? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I am not very courteous (sorry!); here are the links, I guess – Jawad Rafique Malik; Syed Abu Ahmad Akif; Sikandar Sultan Raja. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 21:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC); edited 21:28, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 12:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Mark Edmundson

Dear RHaworth, I would like to appeal the speedy deletion of my Draft: Mark Edmundson. I am puzzled at the allegation of "unambiguous advertising" since Professor Edmundson is a noted educator, author, and lecturer at a top tier university. My draft entry simply recounts what makes Edmundson notable (his teaching, publishing, and speaking) which I was criticized for not doing by my first reviewer. Only two days ago, two kind Teahouse experts literally rewrote my draft to insure that it was disinterested and neutral. After correcting a couple of errors, I resubmitted only to be told by the next reviewer that I needed to make the corrections previous reviewers advised, which I had done across several drafts. It's as if he was looking at my original draft instead of my latest. I had modeled my entry after that of another academic author, Mark Bauerlein, to insure my draft was acceptable. I am mystified by the "advertising" claim and would ask that you rescind the deletion. Thank you for your time. — David Clemens (talk) 20:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

  • You lose a great many points for being unable to copy-and-paste my name and for using <h1> headings in the article. Certainly it was very short on evidence of notability but the tone was not grossly spammy. But you probably have a CoI so the best I can offer is: take your request to DRV. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, Apologies for my faulty typing and headings. I am respectfully requesting a copy of my final speedily-deleted draft Draft: Mark Edmundson. Thank you for your time. — David Clemens (talk) 16:49, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, Regarding a copy of Draft: Mark Edmundson, I have set up my email address as directed and believe that I have provided a proper wikilink. Thank you for even more of your time! I do apologize for my newbie fumbling. — David Clemens (talk) 23:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, sir. Much appreciated. David Clemens (talk) 16:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

User:SanjaAkim123Avelina

I want to tell you about the mentioned user, he is creating hoax articles on television shows, please keep eye on him in the future because he is also doing editing with multiple IPs. If you want the proof, I will give you more than one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.8.235.189 (talk)

Draft Functional Clothing

Hello Sir, The contents which were informed copy right were removed, Kindly check if possible.Thanks and regardsRajiv Sharma (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Requesting to you to check the deleted version.Thanks and regardsRajiv Sharma (talk) 18:07, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Rajiv Sharma (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Tarun Sharma

Deletion of image released in public domain for copyright violation. I am the legal copyright owner of the image file:Tarun Sharma.jpg. I had released this image using the OTRS system. This image was tagged incorrectly for copyright violation twice because it shows up on twitter. But since I am the legal copyright owner of the image I can legally decide whether or not to release it in public. I had also contested the speedy deletion and mentioned on the page that I have mailed a release generated through OTRS system. In spite of that, the image has been deleted for copyright violation. I really fail to understand what's going on? — Knowledge is Power (talk) 06:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

  • The best way to convince me that you own the copyright is for you to let me see the original file with the EXIF metadata - camera name, etc. - still in place. Preferably do so by uploading to the Commons but I will accept email. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:42, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for help

Thanks for help with the outgoing tide of sea level rise archive chaos!! — NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Images in Geological history of Borneo

Hi. You deleted most of the PDF images in Geological history of Borneo and left them as redlinks. While obviously they should be converted to SVGs, PNGs, or something else that makes sense, MediaWiki seems to render them as JPEGs and they show(ed) up just fine in the article. I don't think they should be deleted ... they should just be converted. -- B (talk) 18:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

  • It came as a surprise to me that when a PDF consists of just one image, it can be used in articles. All images used in that article now restored. Most were fine but two had horrible wide borders. I have converted one as an exercise but I will leave the other for someone else. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:42, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I did File:Regional map of SE asia with Borneo Highlighted.pdf as File:Regional map of SE Asia with Borneo Highlighted.svg. Oddly, if you look at the file history of my upload, MediaWiki doesn't seem to handle the text labels correctly. When MediaWiki rasterized my original version, all of the text labels were anchored to the left or top. I fixed it by converting the text labels to generic paths. -- B (talk) 12:06, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Well done. I don't have the tools and possibly not the skills to create SVGs. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Michael J. Daugherty

Please accept my apology for the mess - up upon submission. It was my first creation. I believe I know the process now. If you would consider allowing me to try again, I would be most grateful. — Scott Phillips Griffith (talk) 21:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

  • So what am I doing to prevent you trying again? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Pavlosmouratidis

I hired a company which I was referred to by wikipedia and they were supposed to set up this very professional wikipedia page. I was very disappointed to say the least. Can you please tell me what was wrong with the page? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.0.148.196 (talk) 23:12, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Count yourself very lucky that I am talking to an IP address. I hope you have not paid a penny to the company - it was hopelessly unprofessional. Make me a money offer by email and I may consider writing a bio for you - with a money-back guarantee. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

BitBay

You deleted a draft of BitBay on August 14, 2018 due to unambiguous advertising or promotion. Can you please specify which elements of that article contained that type of content? Also please note, BitBay is a free and open source software, not a company or business. Thank you. -- Tradersnow (talk) 00:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until somebody with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your timely reply.

  1. As clearly stated above, BitBay is not a company, similar to how other open cryptographic networks and protocols are not companies.
  2. If a person thinks that a public, free, open source software is notable, spends significant time researching it, and then writes about it, does that not automatically create a CoI? I am no different than that person.
  3. Please also note that relatively informal sources are acceptable for publicly distributed, open source software.
  4. If this sandbox draft was deleted due to a declared (unpaid) CoI, please call it what it is, and not unambiguous advertising or promotion.

It would be much appreciated if you could please restore this sandbox draft. Thank you. -- Tradersnow (talk) 23:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • You have already been given a lot of advice on your talk page from people with more patience than me. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Rising damp

Help with Batch delete at CURRENT sea level rise. Hi thanks for help earlier today with the sea level "reshuffle". Is there a good way to BATCH DELETE a list of useless redirs? Following a painstaking audit, the situation is described in this section at my test page Back in time there was a move from Current sea level rise to Sea level rise. Under the former article title, the archives were messed up. They were moved in their messed up state. Abundant redirs were left in their wake. I have been through them (painstakingly) to make sure there is no useful anything, and can confidently say its just clutter that might show up in lists of hits when users search, and potentially make some future wikignomes life hell if they have to sort a future archive issue. Is there a good way to ask for batch delete, or do I need to open each one and paste the Db-g6 template one by one? — NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

The Cleanup Barnstar
For help mopping up the flood of useless talk-archive redirs associated with Sea level rise and the former article! — NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 17:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
  • It needed some lateral thinking! Twinkle offers me a batch delete option for talk pages but not for user pages. So as you can see, I had to move the page to be able to do the deletion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Brilliant! Thanks, MacGyver! — NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:57, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • What has MacGyver got to do with anything? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Age of Sigmar page deletion

I am curious as to why Games-Workshop's Age of Sigmar page was deleted. Warhammer Age of Sigmar. It claims copyright infringement of two re-sellers of Games-Workshop products. Did someone use a bunch of their images or blurbs? Was it reported by those re-sellers or by some bot that watches for these things? — LargeGeek (talk) 14:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

1935 Labor Day Hurricane

File:Report to President Roosevelt on 1935 Labor Day Hurricane, dated Sept. 8, 1935.pdf Roger, I'm somewhat confused by your deletion action. The article appears to be unchanged. The link to the subject report (Note 69) is still active. Also I don't recall citing a pdf in my references. But it's been a few years since I worked on the 1935 hurricane page, so perhaps I'm just losing it. Righto, Richard Bcrford (talk) 14:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Richard, I recognise that you may not be as web-savvy as others so I can forgive your inability to provide a link to the PDF in question and to the relevant article. But surely you understand the difference between Wikipedia and flickr? With this edit dated 2015-04-15 21:40:41 you added a link to this album on flickr. That was exactly the right way to do things. Why then, 8 hours later, did you upload the same images as a PDF here? It was totally unnecessary and pointless since PDFs of that sort are useless. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

About deleting page Vushtrria Online

Dear, I'm interested to know whats the reason about deleting a page on Wikipedia which is named Vushtrria Online. This page is about newsmedia portal located in Vushtrri, Kosovo. You can read about it also in the another respective medias in Kosovo. For example this is a link that is talking about documentary produced by VushtrriaOnline. I'm writting to you because of a message showed when I try to rewrite VushtrriaOnline Page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.19.227.181 (talk)

Undoing - Speedy Deletion of Article

Hello there. You recently deleted the page created for Kirk Deviere. If possible to reinstate it so it can be rewritten without sounding so much like an endorsement, I would like to be given the opportunity to correct that. I appreciate your working to keep Wikipedia as clean and thorough as possible and would like to correct it in that matter. I look forward to your response! Thanks, Kirkdeviere (talk) 13:37, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Text emailed but kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Fuchs Lubricants Iranian Company

Hi there, you have recently deleted Fuchs Lubricants Iranian Company page under A7, I had edited the article and added info about the importance of the subject, so I think the A7 criterion does not apply anymore. I also left a note on the article's talk page and got no response. Could you please undo the deletion or provide an explanation about the reason of deletion? — Moham.s.n (talk) 16:04, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

The Admin's Barnstar
For your aid in helping me reduce the stale draft backlog. You have deleted plenty of promotional and stale test pages. Thank you and keep up the good work. — AmericanAir88(talk) 17:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Vogeti Ramakrishnayya

A tag has been placed on Vogeti ramakrishnayya requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. <Rest of template not needed!> If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. I had again posted it and I have also seen your suggestion with the heading rushi-ing into, and I want this to be accepted and not deleted as I have provided all the necessary links which are not dead which was said to be the main problem before. I hope you can visit the page and help me remove the box and make it accepted. — Rushi1122334455 (talk) 09:01, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Dr. Dhulipala Mahadeva Mani

Hi Mr. Haworth sorry for the late responses, but I was busy for a month and can now work on the draft. I updated the talk section of the article can you please respond. Again sorry for being so late but I was busy. Draft:Dhulipala Mahadeva Mani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fhurfu21 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the reply Fhurfu21 (talk) 18:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

NCIFMB

I would have preferred to have had the opportunity to address the copyright infringing text on National Collection of Industrial Food and Marine Bacteria before speedy deletion, however I do appreciate the circumstances under which it was done. I will be recreating this page, with fully re-written text to comply with guidelines. — Dswan (talk) 11:03, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of a page

Hi Roger, You deleted the following page due to 'blatant vanity': User:H.E. Hussain Abdulla Ali Al Shafar. Decision accepted and respect but is there any circumstances where a user page like this would be acceptable? Or if we try again will it simply be deleted again without any opportunity to rectify the issues? What is the criteria for an individual's page to be accepted? Many thanks, Gary Dalton (on behalf of H.E. Hussain Abdulla Ali Al Shafar) — Preceding unsigned comment added by H.E. Hussain Abdulla Ali Al Shafar (talk • contribs) 11:04, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

recreating an article

I have been working on creating few literary articles in wikipedia including biography of poets and writers. I tried to create an article about Sonnet Mondal but I was not allowed to do so. There are many reasons highlighted including an AFD but I think the subject is notable now with wide news coverages as found in google news. The last time the page was deleted was in 2010 and most of the media links and newspaper links are after that. I think the notability of the subject has changed. Also did some research and found lot of international literary festivals mentioning him. So I wish to re-create the article with current details. Can you allow me to create this article with proper links? — Beverfernandes (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

  • So why do you think I am stopping you? Create draft:Sonnet Mondal. If it gets accepted, unprotection of the mainspace title will be uncontroversial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Why

Why idiot. — Pac prime (talk) 11:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Mumbai Express

Hi, I'm confused that you've deleted this. Who was the "one author" who requested deletion - the user who originally created a page at this title, or the one who moved it to Mumbai Sexpress (film) and thereby turned Mumbai Express into a redirect thereto?

Four days ago I changed it to redirect to Mumbai Xpress, on the basis that "Mumbai Express" doesn't seem to have any meanings of its own, but is a perfectly plausible misspelling of "Mumbai Xpress". I argue that this is a significant change from the original content of Mumbai Express, so doesn't qualify as G7.

As such, I would like to request that the page be restored as a redirect to Mumbai Xpress. This can then be protected if you think it's necessary. — Smjg (talk) 17:41, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Song of the Cowherd Erxiao

Hi RHaworth, I just saw that you deleted this article as a "blatant hoax". That's incorrect. This is a famous song in China and a simple search on Google books will show multiple RS coverage about the song. For example, Perspectives on Teaching and Learning Chinese Literacy in China and The Sino-Japanese War and Youth Literature. Please restore. Thanks, -Zanhe (talk) 00:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Restored. It is utter foolishness to try and develop an article in mainspace. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Gamma Sigma Epsilon

As suggested on the Help Desk, I'm discussing here. I don't believe that the table on Gamma Sigma Epsilon represents the level of creativity in order to by copyrightable. — Naraht (talk) 08:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't believe that listcruft represents a reason for a Speedy. Please let me know if you believe the table is a copyvio or not. If you do believe that it is a copyvio then we go in one direction, if not, then we go in another. And yes, I know WP:OTHERTHINGSEXIST, but there are over 100 standalone articles consisting of lists of chapters of Greek Letter Organizations. — Naraht (talk) 15:29, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

In regards to being COPYVIO, I suggest https://copyright.uslegal.com/enumerated-categories-of-copyrightable-works/creativity-requirement/ as a guide to determining the COPYVIO of the list. — Naraht (talk) 16:37, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

  • I am not going to restore it for you. If you can find another admin willing to restore, i shall take no action. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:56, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

CollabDeen

Dear RHaworth, Wishing you well. Thank you for reviewing my write up. Could you assist me by telling me the areas of my weaknesses? Here is the link: Draft:CollabDeen. Yours Sincerely, Ibrahim fergo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibrahim Fergo (talk • contribs) 10:29, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Resuer

Hello Roger, I'm Ylenia Yesterday the article I wrote was deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Resuer, I would like to know why, it was not my intention to write in a promotional way, I did my best to write in an objective and journalistic way Can you tell me how to improve the article for publication? I would like to understand where my mistakes I'd like to write a correct article. I hope you can help me Thank you, best, Ylenia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yleniasart (talk • contribs) 11:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

  • What a kinky idea - piping a Wikilink to its corresponding URL! Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your magazine is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Request for deletion

I need to request you that please delete the page User talk:Misser Boss as the CSD reason "G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup" as that page is not useful, blank, not needed and also created by IP vandals evading blocks (probably of Misser Boss only). I do not have a Wikipedia account so I need to talk with IP address. Thank you. 182.64.25.103 (talk) 17:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

  • On the contrary, the page is needed as a record of "IP vandals evading blocks". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Unreferenced academicks

David Fell (academic)

You mentioned that I should reference authorative sources to show notability. Just to clarify, do you mean references that cite his work? He currently has 12367 citations in all and his book has been cited 1462 times (data from google scholar). — Rhodydog (talk) 15:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Rhodydog: The article needs reliable sources, such as news articles, magazines, or books that discuss the person. Articles about his work are helpful, but the article is about the person, not his work. And referencing his own work doesn't help at all. See the notability guidelines for biographies, reliable sources, and the difference between primary, secondary, and tertiary sources. — Bradv 16:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I came across this page: Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) and I believe that creating a page for David Fell is worthwhile. — Rhodydog (talk) 16:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Jannie Hofmeyr

I see that you deleted the Jannie Hofmeyr page. I understand that the page was a little thin on details. I believe he is a notable Academic. Finally, I should state I am not Jannie Hofmeyr, he lives in S Africa, I live in the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhodydog (talk • contribs) 16:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Athel Cornish-Bowden

I noticed that you deleted (or so it appears, correct me if I am wrong) the Athel Cornish-Bowden page. I understand that the page was a little thin on details but I believe he is a notable Academic. He is after all one of the worlds most famous enzyme kineticists.

If the page is in draft mode I can build it up then send it to you for review. If it was deleted forever, please advise. Finally, I should state I am not Athel Cornish-Bowden, he lives in France, I live in the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhodydog (talk • contribs) 16:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

  • You may think the page was in "draft mode" but it was in mainspace. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Edda Klipp

As you've noticed I have started a number of pages on notable systems biologists. The reason for this is that I was recently searching for notable systems biologists when I found a useful list on Wikipedia. However, I discovered that a number of highly notable people were absent. I decided I wanted to correct this by adding four systems biologists who I consider to be highly notable based on their impact on the field. I probably approached this the wrong way and should have done full drafts of all four pages then had them reviewed. As for Edda Klipp I can support her notability. Finally, I should state I am not Edda Klipp, she lives in Germany, I live in the USA. — Rhodydog (talk) 17:15, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

  • If you wish to acquire any credibility as a Wikipedia editor, you will learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page. It is a problem with academicks that they do not understand the difference between academick references and wiki references. Bradv has given you a good reply above but I will just restate it: your articles failed because you had made absolutely no attempt to provide evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. All four restored to draft space. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
  • I know why my editing failed and I accept being educated on this point, we all have to learn. What I don't appreciate is the scolding tone of the replies I'm getting from you. Is this the right way to encourage contributions to Wikipedia? I've read your User page and you even admit, somewhat jokingly, that this is your approach to those who add content. Take a step back, think about what you're doing. Long-term, administrators who use these tactics will simply alienate further contributions. We all have a stake in Wikipedia and we all want it to succeed. Of course, one has to police submitted material, but be sensible about it. Other administrators also noted my failings in these particular posts but they responded courteously but they still got the message across. I learned without being scolded. Please, no further snide remarks. We are done here. Rhodydog (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

If you wish to acquire any credibility as a Wikipedia editor/administrator I recommend you learn to spell and improve your grammatical skills - touche Rhodydog (talk) 01:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Rhodydog: RHaworth just did you a favour and restored your articles upon request. This is not an appropriate way to say "thank you." Bradv 02:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

He didn't appropriately address me either, he was using his position to discredit when there was no need to do so. As editors we are at the mercy of unscrupulous or overbearing administrators, obviously we will and should defend ourselves in such situations. I am very happy to be educated but it should be done in a civil manner. Is that an unreasonable request? Rhodydog (talk) 03:36, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Rhodydog: There was nothing uncivil about RHaworth's comment. You spammed his userpage with repeated requests, and completely ignored my multiple messages to you about reliable sources and notability, here and elsewhere. He didn't need to acquiesce to your request, but he did, and all you can do is insult his spelling and grammar (which is perfectly fine by the way). And he doesn't need to "acquire any credibility" — he's been here for years and is a very profilic and respected editor. You, on the other hand, do. Bradv 03:48, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Contributing to Wikipedia is hard but it gets much harder when administrators treat editors the way they do. Please delete the drafts, I no longer wish to contribute to these pages. As for spelling, you are right that his spelling is correct but he is using obsolete phrasing when a more modern word would be better. Why he does this, I don't know. Rhodydog (talk) 03:58, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of the Sonna Rele page

Hello, I'm contacting you regarding the page for the British music artist, Sonna Rele. From the edit history on the page, I can see that the page has been deleted in the past for various reasons - most commonly "unambiguous advertising or promotion" - and that you protected the page from creation on 18 July 2010.

I am not affiliated in any way with Sonna Rele, but from a quick search on Google it seems as if this artist appears to have done considerable and high-profile work since 2010 - most notably working with Disney on the 2015 live-action movie of Cinderella. I wonder if you might re-consider your protection of the page? Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amxek (talk • contribs) 17:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

  • Learn wikilinks. Re-create at draft:Sonna Rele. If the article is accepted, then unprotection of the mainspace title will be uncontroversial. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Abdul kissing Candice

Mind restoring Draft:Abdul Gani Vakil and Draft:Kissing Candice (band) for me? I did not manage to rescue them quite quick enough. I was halfway through taking a cursory look at the items in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions when you deleted them. Entirely not your fault, however, but rather a deficiency in the system. G13 should function like PROD, giving interested parties a week to review them. Regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 08:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Page is protected

Hi, I am trying to add an academic page onto Wikipedia but it has protected it and is not letting me create the page. It said to contact you. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contributor2018PS (talk • contribs) 00:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

What Happened

Draft:Vogeti Ramakrishnayya , i had given all the required citations , and made the page very clear and why did you again made it to a draft again , and when will i get this article approved and when will the people be able to see it? — Rushi1122334455 (talk). —Preceding undated comment added 11:00, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

De Ijazat

Hi Roger, you deleted this page on August 7 and it was re-created a week later. Can you please check for me if there's any resemblance between the two versions? -- Saqib (talk) 20:05, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

  • No resemblance - most recent was written by a well-stablished editor. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Fruiticulture

My page Fruiticulture has been deleted although it has public domain copyrigh!! Any action should i take to be able to publish it again? Thanks, Abdulelah1 (talk) 04:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

User talk:MedECUBE

You may wish to revoke talk page access. -- Cahk (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Request for deletion

I need to request you that please delete page User talk:106.205.152.95 as the criteria of speedy deletion reason as g6 (Asserted to be non-controversial maintenance). We don't need that page. 3 more pages, User talk:106.222.97.229, User talk:122.162.80.48 and User talk:171.50.170.146 were also deleted like this by you. I don't have a Wikipedia account so I need to talk by this IP address. Thank you. 182.77.106.88 (talk) 13:09, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

  • To whom do you think you would be talking if I unprotected the page? What is preventing you creating an account? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

I would be talking to you (RHaworth) when you unprotect that page. Nothing is preventing me from creating an account. I like to be an IP only. So, instead of unprotecting that page, please quickly delete that page (User talk:106.205.152.95) as speedy deletion criteria g6. We don't need that page. Thank you. 182.77.106.88 (talk) 17:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

There are no hundreds of similar. I am just requesting deletion as we don't need that page. I don't want to waste more time on it. Without any further more talk (probably an arguement) about the deletion, please just delete that page (User talk:106.205.152.95) quickly as we don't need it at all. Thank you. 182.77.106.88 (talk) 14:31, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker). Some admins will delete these superfluous articles with a db|error, some do not, there is no consistency. I am running at about 50/50 and until there are contrary guidelines it must be worth continuing to nominate - probably picking times to avoid certain admins. -- Richhoncho (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

I am from the same IP address (122.162.235.252) who requested deletion for the three pages, User talk:106.222.97.229, User talk:122.162.80.48 and User talk:171.50.170.146. I was going to request to delete User talk:106.205.152.95 but I forgot to request. All the four pages are not needed and three already got deleted. I don't want to waste more time on it. So, please delete the fourth page also (User talk:106.205.152.95) quickly because we don't need that page also at all. — 182.77.106.88 (talk) 05:08, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Why? And who is "we"? Drmies (talk) 05:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I am sick of your fussing. You have not given a good reason for deletion. Find another admin. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Morph (Twenty One Pilots song)

Hi, can you elucidate why you have turned this db down, when other editors have accepted and deleted similar nominations? Might be an idea if admins agreed too. Cheers. NB. I am not asking for a reconsider, just an explanation. -- Richhoncho (talk) 11:04, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. Check around, redirects are not cheap if everything gets 3 separate redirects, 2 of which are surplus to the primary redirect. -- Richhoncho (talk) 11:26, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Families

Hello, re: International Organization for the Family and the World Congress of Families. As far as I can tell, the World Congress of Families WAS a US-based organization that folded itself into a new organization based in Russia. It is difficult to tell what the proper Wikipedia solution to this should be. They both were international organizations, and some leaders from the World Congress of Families ended up working with the International Organization for the Family. But there is very little mainstream coverage of either group that explains what has actually happened. — Chip.berlet (talk) 22:25, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Babylon.js re-write

I would like to write an article on Babylon.js and it appears that a [draft article] has been deleted by yourself. As I do not know the content of the previous page I do not know whether my contribution will be substantially different or not. If possible would you please be able to provide me with a copy of the content. — JohnK3142 (talk) 08:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Dahlby

Hello editor. My rough draft got deleted due to improper copyright issues on my behalf. I was hoping you could restore the page so that I can make corrections to my rough draft. I am learning wikipedia for a course and would like the opportunity to correct my mistakes and learn the proper way to enter information. I would appreciate it very much, but understand if that is not a possibility. Thank you -- Aswieter (talk) 16:30, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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