Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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October 8

Portal:Current events/2022 October 8

October 8, 2022 (2022-10-08) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Crimean Bridge explosion The Kerch Strait Bridge is hit by an explosion, resulting in a fire and the partial collapse of a road section. Three people are killed. The cause is currently unknown, with a Russian investigative committee saying it was a Ukrainian truck bomb. (The Guardian) The death toll from last Thursday's shelling by Russian forces of a residential area in Zaporizhzhia rises to 17 civilians, including a child. (The Times of Israel) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Two 17-year-old Palestinians are killed and 11 more injured during a raid when three gunmen open fire in a mass shooting at a refugee camp in Jenin, in the occupied West Bank. (Al Jazeera) A shooting attack by Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militants kills an Israeli soldier and injures two police officers and a guard. (Times of Israel) Business and economy Economy of Argentina The Ministry of Economy of Argentina announces regulations on import authorizations in an attempt to prevent fraud and preserve the country's reserves of U.S. dollars, according to the Central Bank. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents At least 12 people are killed and 30 others are injured when a bus collides with a diesel tanker and catches fire in Nashik, Maharashtra, India. (Reuters) At least 76 people are killed after a boat carrying people fleeing floodwater capsizes in Anambra State, Nigeria. (BBC) Four people are killed by flash floods across Cambodia. Thousands of hectares of crops are inundated. (Xinhua) International relations Mahsa Amini protests The Netherlands and France urge their citizens to leave Iran. (Iranintl) Iran–Ukraine relations The Ukrainian immigration center denies visa extensions to Iranian students in retaliation for Russia using Iranian drones during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Middle East Eye) Law and crime All rail traffic in northern Germany is suspended for nearly three hours in the morning after vital cables for the rail were found cut. Deutsche Bahn blames sabotage for the incident and Federal Police launch an investigation into the incident. (Al Jazeera)

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2022 Crimean Bridge explosion

Article: 2022 Crimean Bridge explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A large series of explosions and subsequent fires result in major damage to the Crimean Bridge, the only road and rail connection between Russia and Russian-occupied Crimea. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A series of explosions heavily damage the Crimean Bridge between Russia and Crimea.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Pacific26 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Blurengo (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Certainly notable and should be included in ITN. Article is extremely new and currently a stub, should be posted after expansion and additional references are added. Pacific26 (talk) 07:21, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support on the merits. While we shouldn't post every step in the war, this seems to be a notable one to call out, once the article is in okay shape. 331dot (talk) 08:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - seems to ultimately be insignificant. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 09:25, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

  Could you expand on that? I think we would post large explosions that severely damage and partially collapse an iconic bridge like the Golden Gate Bridge or the Øresund Bridge or the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge. The Crimean Bridge is also strategically significant and this incident (irrespective of the cause) is already disrupting supplies to occupied Crimea. Doesn't seem "insignificant" even if this doesn't merit posting. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

  Russia's stance is that the damage to the bridge would be "promptly restored, since it is not of a serious nature," with independent sources also not differing (note the frequent use of hypotheticals). Unlike Russian cruiser Moskva, this seems like it'll be out of the news rather quickly and the general topic is already covered in ongoing. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 09:49, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

  I don't think the Russians have any credibility really left, especially at this point, so their stance maybe worth noting down but no more than that. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:05, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support once article is expanded a bit more. I think the actual event is notable enough. Compusolus (talk) 10:20, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Neutral, but adding a more concise alt blurb. Sandstein 10:29, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose covered in ongoing. Either we develop guidelines for what events in the war are nonetheless worth posting, or we flat out decline to post all of them. Banedon (talk) 11:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support BBC says "it is hard to exaggerate the significance, and symbolism, of seeing the bridge on fire." BBC. --Bruzaholm (talk) 11:16, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Strong support longest bridge in Europe Bumbubookworm (talk) 11:23, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment more than one explosion, so changed nomination blurbs to plural. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:47, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Moderate Oppose Stub, covered by Ongoing, death toll dwarfed by those of recent similar explosions in several countries (including this one). InedibleHulk (talk) 11:56, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support very significant event, both in terms of military logistics and (arguably more importantly) symbolism. Note that so far, there has been no official claim or accusation of responsibility. Therefore, it seems a bit premature to declare this covered by the ongoing article (in fact, the truck in question came from the Russian side of the bridge). The unclear nature of the explosion (missile, truck bomb, naval sabotage) only adds to the notability of this event. YD407OTZ (talk) 12:01, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Creeslough explosion

Article: Creeslough explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A large explosion at a petrol station in Creeslough, County Donegal, Ireland, left seven people dead and eight hospitalised. (Post)
News source(s): The Journal, BBC News, The Guardian, RTÉ
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Greyzxq (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Quake1234 (talk · give credit) and Bogger (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Notable and should be included in ITN, considering death toll and irregularity, especially in Ireland. greyzxq ^talk 08:40, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose, petrol stations and transports blowing up is somewhat routine (unlike bridges, see above), and the casualty count is not exceptional. Sandstein 10:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support I initially added this to the current events news portal when the story was developing. Reported outside Ireland extensively and also very significant event in the context of the small population and rarirty of such an event in Ireland. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

October 7

Portal:Current events/2022 October 7

October 7, 2022 (2022-10-07) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict During two separate shootings, a 14-year-old Palestinian boy is killed by Israeli soldiers in a village near Ramallah, in the West Bank, while a 17-year-old Palestinian boy is killed and his mother wounded when Israeli soldiers open fire at residents during confrontations with Israeli settlers. (Al Jazeera) Communist rebellion in the Philippines Two soldiers are killed and three civilians are injured when five drug gangs open fire during a attack on a senator's convoy in clashes with airstrikes, prison riots, mass shooting, and mass stabbing between the military and the New People's Army in Eastern Samar, Philippines. (Xinhua) Somali Civil War The Somali Armed Forces kill 19 al-Shabaab militants in Bal'ad, Middle Shabelle, in a repelled attack amid ongoing operations against the jihadist group. (allAfrica) Seven soldiers are killed and four injured during an attack at an army base in Garabtisan, Djibouti, by Armed FRUD gunmen. Both the attackers are killed. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture 2022 Nobel Peace Prize Belarusian activist Ales Bialiatski, the Russian human rights society Memorial and the Ukrainian human rights organization The Center for Civil Liberties are awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. (DW) Eurovision Song Contest 2023 Liverpool is selected as the host city of next year's Eurovision Song Contest. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Creeslough explosion Ten people are killed, eight others are injured, and others remain trapped under rubble after an explosion at an Applegreen petrol station in the village of Creeslough, County Donegal, Ireland. (BBC News) International relations Mahsa Amini protests Canada–Iran relations The Canadian government permanently bans 10,000 IRGC members from Canada. (Iranintl) (CTV News) Denmark–Iran relations An armed intruder damages several vehicles in the parking lot of the Iranian embassy in Copenhagen, Denmark. Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian criticizes the Danish police for not providing adequate protection for the embassy. (Tasnim) (Bloomberg) Politics and elections 2022 Lesotho general election Citizens in Lesotho head to the polls to elect the 120 members of the National Assembly. (Reuters)

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RD: Lorry I. Lokey

Article: Lorry I. Lokey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stanford University; University of Oregon
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (October 7); died on October 1. —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:28, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Peter Robinson (novelist)

Article: Peter Robinson (novelist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; BBC News; The Guardian; Global News (Canadian Press)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (October 7); died on October 4. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:49, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Dave Dryden

Article: Dave Dryden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NHL.com; The Buffalo News; TSN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (October 7); died on October 4. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Nice length and very well cited, very good article in my opinion. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Sara Lee

Article: Sara Lee (wrestler) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article well cited. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Nobel Peace Prize 2022

Articles: Ales Bialiatski (talk · history · tag) and Memorial (society) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to Belarusian activist Ales Bialiatski (pictured) as well as the Russian society "Memorial" and The Center for Civil Liberties in Ukraine. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to Belarusian activist Ales Bialiatski (pictured), and to the Russian society "Memorial" and The Center for Civil Liberties in Ukraine.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Nobel Peace Prize is jointly awarded to Belarusian activist Ales Bialiatski (pictured), the Russian society Memorial, and the Ukrainian Centre for Civil Liberties.
News source(s): NYT, AP, Guardian, DW, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by SoWhy (talk · give credit)
• Created by Løken (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sceptre (talk · give credit) and ArleneHerman (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 SoWhy 12:05, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – Very widely covered. – Sca (talk) 13:12, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
  • We don't care about breadth of coverage, just that coverage there. --Masem (t) 14:05, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

    In the news biz we do, in the real world. -- Sca (talk) 14:53, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

    We're the encyclopedia biz, so we have different metrics. Masem (t) 02:19, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

  Not to be that guy, but this is a INT/R item so that's more or less assumed, no? DarkSide830 (talk) 02:16, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Bialiatski's article needs a lot of work, and the Center's article is barely a stub. The Memorial article needs a bit of referencing improvement. --Masem (t) 14:05, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Not loving any of the blurbs verbatim, is there one prize "jointly" awarded to the 3 recipients; was there 1 prize to a person and 1 prize to 2 organizations jointly, were there 3 prizes, etc? - put up an alt2 to try to clarify that there is 1 prize, with 3 recipients splitting it. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:49, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality: Ales Bialiatski#International recognition is mostly unsourced and reads like a CV. Memorial (society) appears OK. Center for Civil Liberties (Ukrainian civil society organization) is essentially a stub. Sandstein 10:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality for the same reasons as others have pointed out already. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:59, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

October 6

Portal:Current events/2022 October 6

October 6, 2022 (2022-10-06) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian forces shell residential buildings in Zaporizhzhia, killing at least three people, injuring twelve others, and causing widespread fires. (Reuters) War against the Islamic State American-led intervention in the Syrian civil war A United States Air Force airstrike and helicopter raid kill two senior Islamic State leaders in Qamishli, Syria, including the Islamic State's deputy leader in Syria. CENTCOM says that no civilians nor any U.S. military personnel were killed or injured in the operation. (CNN) Tigray War An airstrike kills at least five people and injures 37 others in Tigray Region, Ethiopia. (Reuters) Arts and culture 2022 Nobel Prize in Literature French author Annie Ernaux is awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature for "the courage and clinical acuity with which she uncovers the roots, estrangements and collective restraints of personal memory". (Reuters) The Irish Dancing Commission, Ireland's governing body for Irish dancing, appoints a former judge to investigate claims of prominent dance schools and teachers fixing competitions. (The Guardian) Business and economy 2021–2022 inflation surge Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko bans price increases as part of an effort to reduce inflation in the country. (The Moscow Times) Disasters and accidents 2022 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Ian's death toll increases to 130, with 125 deaths in the United States and five in Cuba, making it the 24th deadliest hurricane in US history. (CNN) At least 15 people are killed and 20 others are missing after a boat carrying migrants sinks off the eastern coast of the Greek island of Lesbos. Five others have been rescued. (CNA) Sixteen people are killed and 20 others are injured when a bus overturns in Bara District, Nepal. (Xinhua) Health and environment 2022 monkeypox outbreak Mozambique reports its first case of monkeypox. (The Star) Law and crime War on drugs U.S. President Joe Biden announces that he will pardon anyone who was convicted on prior federal charges, or who was convicted in the District of Columbia, for marijuana possession. (CNBC) 2022 Nong Bua Lamphu massacre At least 36 people, including 24 children, are killed and 10 others injured when a dismissed policeman open fire in a mass shooting, which started at a daycare centre in Na Klang district, Thailand. The perpetrator later commits suicide after killing his family at his home. (AP) 2022 Las Vegas Strip stabbings Two people are killed and six others are injured, three of them critically, in a mass stabbing on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise, Nevada, United States. (KTNV-TV) Iran's IRIB broadcasts purported confessions from two French citizens accused of espionage. This broadcast comes in the context of the Mahsa Amini protests which began in September as well as the claim by the Iranian government that the protests are an attempt by France and other countries such as the United States and Israel to overthrow the current Iranian Islamic government. (The Washington Post)

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RD: Jody Miller

Article: Jody Miller (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Oklahoman; Associated Press; Toronto Sun (Bang Showbiz)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 08:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Judy Tenuta

Article: Judy Tenuta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A few lists need sourcing but its about 75% of the way there. Masem (t) 00:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Gian Piero Ventrone

Article: Gian Piero Ventrone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Repubblica, BBC, Guardian
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Dr Salvus (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Dr Salvus 21:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment: IMHO, this wikibio could work as an RD if it gets more developed and longer. Right now, it's a little short. Blurbs are more for heads of state while still in office, a world leader or globally-known figure (Einstein, Thatcher, Mandela, QE2, Putin, T'Challa ^{(if real)}, ... etc.). I don't mean disrespect, but I don't think the subject of this wikibio qualifies for blurbing. --PFHLai (talk) 23:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  PFHLai, have removed the blurb. Dr Salvus 08:31, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for the removal. Can the article be expanded a bit more? Not everyone thinks 249 words is long enough. There isn't a strict cut-off number, but when DYK is asking for 300 minimum, ITN/RD shouldn't be too far off. -- PFHLai (talk) 11:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  Couldn't find else but this one. However, it contains only unencyclopedic content. I think Quality > Quantity. Dr Salvus 18:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support RD It's a better blurb than most we see, for giving a cause, but it's a natural cause. Famous as T'Challa or not, that's never much of a story. Article is short, but not glaringly inaccurate (unless an Italian reader can point out what proves me wrong on that). InedibleHulk (talk) 07:08, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Nobel Prize in Literature

Articles: Nobel Prize in Literature (talk · history · tag) and Annie Ernaux (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Annie Ernaux is awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature. (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, CNN, AP, BBC, France24
Credits:

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Rutsq (talk · give credit) and Moscow Mule (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Davey2116 (talk) 11:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose for now For the usual reason. Annie Ernaux has a couple prose spots that need citations and almost the entire Awards section is unsourced. Nobel Prize in Literature should not be bolded, but if it is, that adds more problems, as there are several uncited paragraphs. Curbon7 (talk) 12:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Opoose Ernaux's page lacks a sufficient update per WP:ITNCRIT:

  The decision as to when an article is updated enough is subjective, but a five-sentence update (with at minimum three references, not counting duplicates) is generally more than sufficient, while a one-sentence update is highly questionable.

  —Bagumba (talk) 13:15, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Another stupid, pointless rule. Toss it out. There is no need for an article to be updated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:32, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  So you think we should have posted this article even if it hadn't been updated to note that she won the Nobel Prize? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  That could have been accomplished with a one-sentence update. If someone with a featured article dies, like say Buzz Aldrin, we don't want people adding five sentences just to warrant a blurb. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:01, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  We're not a news website. The entire purpose of ITN is to feature writing that is recently updated. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support blurb Looks pretty good. One citation required left. @Trappist the monk: Can you tell me what the issue is with fn 19? It looks okay to me. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:32, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Is the help text linked from the error message insufficient? If so, what is not clear and why?

  —Trappist the monk (talk) 20:48, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Okay, I got it. It said "Check |archive-url= value" but I checked it and the archive-url was fine. What it meant (I think) is that the archive-url did not match the url, so I adjusted the url card and it is okay now. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Ernaux's article is missing citations at several places. --Masem (t) 02:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality just needs citations on Eranux page and maybe some expansion in certain places. Maybe use 2022 Nobel Prize in Literature instead of Nobel Prize in Literature as it has other information not found on Eranux's page. echidnaLives (talk) 03:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Ready to post with the laureate's name in bold in the blurb (I haven't even looked at the other article). I've gone through and referenced everything that needs a reference. This is based on the assumption that the section "Works" does not need referencing. Quite a bit of content has been posted since she was awarded the Nobel Prize, including about the prize itself and reactions to it. Schwede66 08:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Ready to support The ISBN/source is missing for the last seven books included in the "Works" section. I'm concerned that we are falling behind in Nobel Prize nominations this year. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  I'd still like to see a general reference if not ISBN for those books, then ready to post. Tone 15:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support cited now. - Alanscottwalker (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support – Not overlong, but looks adequate. – Sca (talk) 13:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Sandstein 17:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Nong Bua Lamphu attack

Article: 2022 Nong Bua Lamphu attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 36 people are killed during a mass shooting in Na Klang district, Thailand. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 36 people are killed in a mass shooting at a nursery in Nong Bua Lamphu Province, Thailand.
Alternative blurb II: ​ At least 37 people are killed in a mass shooting at a nursery in northern Thailand.
Alternative blurb III: ​ At least 37 people – including 24 young children – are killed in a mass shooting in northern Thailand.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Last one happened in 2020 as it is rare. Article looks good. Sherenk1 (talk) 09:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support blurb Per nom. Article looks to be in good shape. aeromachinator (talk to me here) 09:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Currently still a stub, but I expect to support this as the article gets expanded. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support at a nursery, bloody hell. Juxlos (talk) 10:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support because it's easily notable enough & the article is good enough. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 11:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The article is written as if the named suspect (not yet convicted from what we have in the article) did it; the attack section should be "The shooter did this" type language. --Masem (t) 12:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

There isn't any doubt as to who did it. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 12:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Until that person's convicted, we assume innocent, per BLPCRIME. Yes, it seems unlikely anyone else could have done it, etc. but until the dust has settled, most such attack articles leave the identity of the shooter/attack vague until the conviction is secured. Masem (t) 12:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

They shot and killed themself, so there won't be any trials. —Bagumba (talk) 12:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

"You can't libel the dead." -- Old saying in the news biz. -- Sca (talk) 12:52, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

You can libel the dead's family. They're a suspect during this period. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:01, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

"Police identified the suspect as 34-year-old former police officer Panya Kamrap." -- AP

"Police named the attacker as Panya Kamrab." "Police say he ... killed himself and his family." -- BBC

"The gunman [was] named as ... Panya Khamrab." — "... before killing himself and his family." -- AlJazeera
– Sca (talk) 13:35, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Identifying the suspect is different from reporting the crime using their name directly. Even in these suicide attacks we try to avoid naming the person in the description of events until an investigation is complete to assure that the suspect actually did it. Masem (t) 13:49, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

when the 2022 cetinje shooting was posted, it looked like this, and also named the only suspect as the perpetrator. i don't know how far into the suspect's family wp:suspect reaches, but the suspect also apparently killed his wife and children. dying (talk) 13:52, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't recall that at ITNC (not that it was here, just don't remember it) but I would have had the same issue there with thst, that until police close the investigation, the description of the event should not explicitly name the suspect. We can identify who the police have named, but avoid using that name is the breakdown of the event until police have settled that as fact with their invesyigation. Masem (t) 13:57, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support ... pending development, cleanup of article. Significance dubious as it's another act of an apparent wacko, but the toll – 37, including 24 children – can't be ignored. Widely covered. Favor Alt2 or Alt3 because outside Thailand very few English-speakers will recognize the name of the province, either. — Sca (talk) 12:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support for reasons stated above. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 12:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Also, if the Robb Elementary School shooting stayed on ITN for days then there isn't a reason to exclude this one. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 12:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  That's a specious argument. The length of time any blurb spends on ITN is entirely a factor of other items being posted. It says nothing about the significance of the item itself. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. All of the articles cited appropriately use the "police claim" language, so we certainly do not want to put the BLP's guilt in Wikipedia's voice. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:12, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Horrific crime. Concerns over BLP don't appear to be a major issue as all of the local authorities are identifying the perpetrator without any qualification and the subject is deceased so there is no possibility of a trial. -Ad Orientem (talk) 13:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Agree. -- Sca (talk) 13:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• BLP update I removed the person's name from the shooting description. He's identified in a later section, which resolve BLP concerns.—Bagumba (talk) 13:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you, that resolved my concern. Masem (t) 13:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Alt blurb comment Nursery is mentioned in most headlines. I've added a new alt blurb. Also the district seems too low of a level to be recognizable, even for most Thais. I'd suggest using the province.—Bagumba (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support alt Meets quality criteria. Various circumstances should (hopefully) avoid the usual shooting posting objections.—Bagumba (talk) 13:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• support. deadliest mass shooting ever in thailand. article quality exceeds minimum requirements. would it make sense to mention that it largely occurred in a childcare center, or that the majority of those killed were children? the blurb for the giza church fire mentioned that it had spread to a nursery, and that it had killed 18 children. the altblurb partially addresses this, but is currently slightly inaccurate as he apparently drove home before killing his family. dying (talk) 13:52, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  by the way, i am slightly wary about using the term "nursery" since i believe most of the sources (or at least the ones i am seeing) refer to the site as a childcare center, daycare center, children's center, or something similar. dying (talk) 14:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Lots of casualties, shocking event, this deserves mention.VR _talk 14:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support and ready! Per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Location in blurb Using "Northern Thailand" in the blurb seems dumbed down and comes off as a Western bias compared to our usual blurbs. Nong Bua Lamphu is in the article's current title, and provides a teaching moment to mention it in the blurb.—Bagumba (talk) 14:30, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Article looks ready and need not be expanded solely for the purpose of ITN. What a horrible event. I also would go with alternative blurb 1 as it is the most descriptive. — That Coptic Guy (talk) 15:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Article is of sufficient quality and this awful event is clearly significant in ITN terms.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted alt1 with '37 deaths.' DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 15:30, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment – The name of the province conveys nothing to most readers of English Wiki. Mentioning the child victims would be much more meaningful. Cf. AP headline: "37 dead, mostly preschoolers, in Thai day care rampage." Not suggesting we use such language as "rampage," only that we say something about the kids. – Sca (talk) 15:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Not to harp on specificities here, but I think it's assumed that if the shooting were at a nursery, most victims would, unfortunately, be children. Perhaps Blurb #1 conveys both that children were the primary victims as well as where the province is for those who don't know much about Thailand or its provinces. For example, the recent ITN story about the stadium stampede in Indonesia was a learning moment for me to understand that Indonesia has provinces too. I absolutely see where you're coming from though. — That Coptic Guy (talk) 16:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  We all can learn, but in ITN we're writing for an audience primarily of quick at-a-glance readers. Those who want to know more can read the article. -- Sca (talk) 16:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Support adding "mostly children"' or similar, but location doesn't require removal. —Bagumba (talk) 16:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

October 5

Portal:Current events/2022 October 5

October 5, 2022 (2022-10-05) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive Ukrainian troops recapture the strategic village of Dudchany on the west bank of the Dnieper following the withdrawal of Russian forces. (Al Jazeera) Annexation of Southern and Eastern Ukraine Russian President Vladimir Putin signs a law formally annexing the Donetsk People's Republic, Luhansk People's Republic, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia into Russia. (Reuters) Tigray War Adi Daero school airstrike More than 50 people are killed in an Ethiopian Air Force airstrike on a school being used as an IDP camp in La'ilay Adiyabo, Tigray Region, Ethiopia. (Reuters) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli soldiers surround a house in the village of Deir al-Hatab, killing a man and wounding four residents and two Palestinian Satellite Channel journalists who were covering the operation. (Al Jazeera) Mexican drug war Eighteen people are killed, including the town's mayor, and three others injured, when a Los Tequileros drug gang open fire in a mass shooting at the town hall in San Miguel Totolapan, Guerrero, Mexico. (BBC) Afghanistan conflict Four people are killed and 25 others are injured by a suicide bomber at a government ministry's mosque in Kabul. (Al Jazeera) Abuja–Kaduna train attack The Nigerian military says it has secured the release of the last 23 passengers taken hostage in late March. (Reuters) Central African Republic Civil War Three United Nations peacekeepers from Bangladesh are killed in a bombing while on patrol in the Central African Republic on Monday. (Reuters) Business and economy Unemployment reaches a record low in Slovenia, the lowest since the country's independence in 1991, despite a slowed economic growth. (Xinhua) Disasters and accidents 2022 Atlantic hurricane season The bridge connecting Pine Island in Lee County, Florida, reopens to the public after undergoing repairs from damage caused by Hurricane Ian. (Wink News) 2022 West Azerbaijan earthquake A magnitude 5.6 earthquake strikes Khowy, West Azerbaijan, Iran, wounding more than 1,000 people. (Reuters) One person is killed and two others are injured by a magnitude 5.8 earthquake in Piura, Peru. (Reuters) Twenty-five people are killed and over a dozen others are injured when a bus falls from a mountainous road into a gorge in Uttarakhand, India. (CNA) Law and crime Lawyers for Maasai herders, who say that the Tanzanian government is trying to violently evict them from their ancestral land in order to make way for a luxury game reserve, have filed an appeal against a court ruling that dismissed their case. (The Guardian) The chief justice of the Supreme Court of Ukraine fires his deputy Bohdan Lvov for having dual Russian and Ukrainian citizenship. (Dzerkalo Tyzhnia) Politics and elections 2022 Danish general election Prime minister of Denmark Mette Frederiksen calls a general election for 1 November, thereby avoiding a vote of no confidence. (The Guardian) Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni fires his son Lt. Gen. Muhoozi Kainerugaba as commander of the national infantry forces after Kainerugaba made a series of tweets threatening to capture Nairobi, the capital of neighbouring Kenya. (AP) Science and technology Nobel Prize in Chemistry Americans Carolyn R. Bertozzi and Karl Barry Sharpless, and Dane Morten P. Meldal are jointly awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for "the development of click chemistry and bioorthogonal chemistry". (Reuters) Sports Carlsen–Niemann controversy A Chess.com investigation finds that Hans Niemann probably cheated in more than 100 chess games. (The Guardian) 2029 Asian Winter Games The IOC states that they were not consulted over Saudi Arabian plans for the $500 billion desert Asian Winter Games and that this was in clear conflict with their policy of using existing arenas. (The Guardian)

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RD: Lenny Lipton

Article: Lenny Lipton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Wrote the poem Puff the Magic Dragon that was later adapted into the hit song. Was also a 3D Filmmaking Pioneer. Thriley (talk) 23:53, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Barbara Stamm

Article: Barbara Stamm (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bavarian Parliament and many others
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: The "social conscience" of Bavaria, member of parliament from 1976 to 2018, its President (as the first woman in the position) from 2008 to 2018, also minister of health, help for children in Romania, support of University of Würzburg's health department, and many other function. Her article so far was a shame, and in a way still is, but I need a break. More could be found in some external links, and more organizations are commented out because I could not find a ref yet. —-Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support I read "Bavaria" as "Bolivia" and so was surprised to see a German politician. Looks to be sourced and in good shape to post, AGF on German language. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 05:51, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Raymond Allen (scriptwriter)

Article: Raymond Allen (scriptwriter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian; Radio Times; British Comedy Guide
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (October 5); died on October 2. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape. Looks ready to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 05:51, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tommy Boggs

Article: Tommy Boggs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:35, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Another short and well-referenced article. Looks good to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 05:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Nobel Prize in Chemistry

Articles: Carolyn Bertozzi (talk · history · tag) and Morten P. Meldal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Nobel Prize in Chemistry is awarded to Carolyn Bertozzi (pictured), Karl Barry Sharpless and Morten P. Meldal for their work on click chemistry and bioorthogonal chemistry. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Meldal's article needs some work and there's an orange-tagged subsection in Bertozzi's. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. But I suggest putting the image of Barry Sharpless, for now he is part of the select list of five individuals with two Nobel Prizes. MSN12102001 (talk) 14:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  it's clear that this's notorious. But let's see if someone can make a collage with the photos of the three laureates. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support, Article is fine for a Nobel prize winner, Alex-h (talk) 15:07, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  Nope, sourcing issues on two of them are blocking this. Masem (t) 15:20, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose for now, Karl Barry Sharpless is almost good to go, there are just two easily fixable cn tags. Carolyn R. Bertozzi has more problems: several awards are uncited and so is a big chunk of the Personal life section. Morten P. Meldal has the biggest problems of the bunch: the entire achievements sections and almost the entire awards section is unsourced. Curbon7 (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Seems pretty much good to go now. Curbon7 (talk) 03:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. @Masem: -- remind me, was it you who had helped create a composite image with all the prize winners combined into a single image the last time? If so, please can you do that this year as well? Ktin (talk) 16:58, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support I've boldly commented out paragraphs or whole article sections that were poorly cited or without any citations. That makes the Morten P. Meldal article look much more sparse but it's still a valid bio. I suggest that in their current form, the three articles make the cut. Schwede66 00:12, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Meldal's page still has lots of unsourced text. They all seem to only have one sentence updates, failing WP:ITNCRIT:

  The decision as to when an article is updated enough is subjective, but a five-sentence update (with at minimum three references, not counting duplicates) is generally more than sufficient, while a one-sentence update is highly questionable.

  —Bagumba (talk) 08:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  What else are you going to be able to say about winning the Nobel? That's at most a one- or two-sentence update as any effects that would have are longer term. Masem (t) 15:11, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

October 4

Portal:Current events/2022 October 4

October 4, 2022 (2022-10-04) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Colombian peace process The Government of Colombia and the National Liberation Army (ELN) announce the resumption of peace talks in Caracas, Venezuela. (Reuters) Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Annexation of Southern and Eastern Ukraine The Federation Council of Russia unanimously approves the annexation of Ukraine's Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions. The annexation documents will now receive final signing by President Vladimir Putin. (Reuters) 2022 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive Ukraine's 35th Marine Brigade recaptures the village of Davydiv Brid in Beryslav Raion, Kherson Oblast, as it continues its ground offensive. The Ukrainian Interior Ministry says that around 3,500 citizens have been freed from Russian occupation in recent days. (BBC News) Business and economy The European Union adds The Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos Islands to its tax haven blacklist, while Bermuda is removed from the list and Anguilla is named a "non-cooperative jurisdiction". (Caribbean News) Disasters and accidents 2022 Atlantic hurricane season The U.S. death toll from Hurricane Ian increases to 109, including 105 in Florida. (CNN) Bangladesh suffers a severe power grid failure, leaving 80 percent of the country without electricity, according to the Bangladesh Power Development Board. (NDTV) Two people are killed and 10 others injured after a plane crashes in Gao, Gao Region, Mali. (Reuters) Ten people are killed and 11 others are reported missing after an avalanche in Draupadi ka Danda, Uttarakhand, India. (AP) Law and crime Same-sex marriage in Slovenia The Slovenian National Assembly codifies the legalization of same-sex marriage and adoption for same-sex couples. (Barron's) Science and technology Nobel Prize in Physics Alain Aspect of France, John Clauser of the U.S., and Anton Zeilinger of Austria are jointly awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for "experiments with entangled photons, establishing the validity of Bell inequalities and pioneering quantum information science". (CNN) Coverage of Google Street View Rwanda is added to Google Street View. (Virtual Streets)

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RD: César Mascetti

Article: César Mascetti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Buenos Aires Times; Página 12; Clarín
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 06:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shigeki Tanaka

Article: Shigeki Tanaka (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yomiuri (in Japanese)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Japanese long-distance runner Dumelow (talk) 07:38, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Appears well-sourced; no issues.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:09, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 04:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jerry Vainisi

Article: Jerry Vainisi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 04:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support I've referenced the only unsourced part. Good to go now.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 15:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joan Hotchkis

Article: Joan Hotchkis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety; The Hollywood Reporter; Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported in a reliable source today (October 4); died on September 27. —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape for posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 15:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Aaron Judge's 62nd Home Run

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Article: Aaron Judge (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Aaron Judge hits his 62nd home run of the season breaking Roger Maris's record, set in 1961, of 61 home runs for most hit in a single American League season. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by TartarTorte (talk · give credit)
• Created by Yankees10 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I am open to new blurb. I more just wanted to see what people thought of this news item itself. TartarTorte 00:46, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Look, I'm a huge baseball fan, and a Yankees fan. Even though Judge is my favorite player since Jeter, I can't support this. The MLB record is 73, set by Barry Bonds. As much as we might like to overlook the steroid champion, we can't. Great for Judge, bad for the Yankees if he signs elsewhere as a free agent. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:07, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Confused What, exactly, has been achieved here? The article linked is behind a paywall or wants me to sign up, so I looked elsewhere and found this. It shows this achievement at seventh place among the MLB all-time single-season home run list. Do American League players not hit as many home runs? (SIGNED: A non-American interested in baseball.) HiLo48 (talk) 01:37, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  There were some records for single-season home run leader, then Babe Ruth came and broke them all. His personal best was 60 in the 1927 season. Then, Roger Maris hit 61 in 1961. Those were both in the American League. Then, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa both broke Maris' record in 1998 while playing in the National League. And Barry Bonds also surpassed it. The issue at play, and the only reason we're talking about the "American League record", is because McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds used performance-enhancing drugs. So, many don't see their records as "genuine", and are putting Judge's accomplishment this season ahead of the steroided seasons. But, MLB still recognizes 73 as the single-season home run record for MLB. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks. I'll think about this. HiLo48 (talk) 02:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  Roger Maris Jr. has been pushing the idea that his father is still the "legit" record holder. Surely he's biased. I am so, so biased in favor of Judge and the Yankees myself, and Judge is having an amazing season. But, Bonds is still the record holder. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  This is one of the biggest records in baseball. The 3 guys you saw were all in peak steroid era (1998-2001, though the steroid era extended deeper into the 90s and 2000s then they started drug testing). The American League actually has slightly more home runs but by luck the 3 highest dopers were in the other sub-league of the top league. Unlike the Olympics major league baseball doesn't revoke accomplishments for cheating (the Houston team literally won the yearly world championship while cheating a few years ago and was punished but they didn't revoke their win). In cricket terms a home run is a six (each bounce boundary only causes a bit under 1 run on average, a bigger dropoff than 6 vs 4 in cricket) but there's only c. 1 home run per game per team on average and they cause 1.something (1.7-1.8 I think) out of 4.3 runs per game per team on average so they're actually rarer than soccer World Cup goals and about as valuable. In baseball you can fail to score even if you safely run 90 yards before fielders can get the ball to you, but just hit it over the boundary (300 to 400 feet away) and your team's guaranteed 1-4 runs (4 if you have 3 "batting partners"). Average c. 27 wickets and 140 deliveries per team in a Twenty20-length game and only 1 homer and 4-5 runs. 5 in the steroid and human growth hormone era. The recordholder literally injected etc so much of those drugs his skull visibly grew and he set it pimply-backed and muscular like a Greek god at age 36 after being skinny as a young man. Our roided up role models also got the side effect of small testicles and low ball testosterone, higher body fat, heart risk etc. Some of this damage is permanent. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  The National League was always better at small ball. Levivich (talk) 07:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose, regrettably. Many people regard this as the real record, but sadly it is only officially the AL record. IMO AL/NL records are not ITN worthy (and very possibly not MLB records as a whole, but that may be a topic for another day). DarkSide830 (talk) 02:15, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose As pointed out, this is not the MLB record, just the AL record. --Masem (t) 02:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose This is literally inside baseball. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:36, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

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RD: Loretta Lynn

Article: Loretta Lynn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes, AP, BBC, France24, Stereogum
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

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 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Blurb - Country music legend. CoatCheck (talk) 14:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support blurb when ready. Being the most awarded female country artist in history and the article calling out "her groundbreaking role" certainly lean Lynn being transformative in her field. rawmustard (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment just don't forget to evaluate the quality of the article. I remain neutral on blurb, because country music is a genre that generally has popularity in a very specific country, so we are hardly in front of a singer massively popular worldwide. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:07, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Lots of sections without sources. Needs a lot of work just to get to RD. Not against a urb, but the quality isn't yet there for it. --Masem (t) 16:22, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. Will likely support a blurb if the article can be brought up to scratch. Subject was a titan in the country music genre. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb I don’t agree that she was so influential in the history of country music. A great singer yes, but no contribution at all in popularising country music worldwide, which is what would make her transformative. She was definitely not of the same stature as Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kenny Rogers or Dolly Parton.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  If that's that's the company we're talking about, Rolling Stone [3] ranked them: 49.Rogers, 8.Parton, 6.Nelson, 4.Lynn, 3.Cash. Wide Open Country has Lynn, Cash, Parton, & Nelson among the 30 greatest. Bilboard [4] has 25.Rogers, 9.Lynn 5.Parton, 3.Nelson, 2.Cash GreatCaesarsGhost 19:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  I don’t say it. I’d rather argue that Hank Williams was perhaps the most influential country singer of all time but can’t include him because he died literally before all these four began their careers. Cash made a global tour to popularise country, Rogers and Parton did popularise it through their crossover music, but Lynn did not succeed in popularising it in any way. Country isn’t a mainstream music genre worldwide so that we can post a blurb for many singers. There must be something else other than a good voice that makes someone transformative.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  You are welcome to whatever criteria you'd like to apply, but "transformative" was removed from the criteria for death blurbs some time ago. [5]GreatCaesarsGhost 20:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Blurb subject to sourcing being fixed - perhaps as she was considered old style country rather than the crossover style she didn't appeal to that mass market like Dolly or Kenny, but a huge star and one of the most important country music figures nonetheless. RIP Josey Wales ^Parley 19:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – Longtime household name among fans of U.S. country music. Widely covered. – Sca (talk) 19:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support more than enough evidence for her to be considered a noteworthy death per above. She may not have crossed over, but the evidence is overwhelming that she was iconic within the genre. If Jeff Carson can be on the front page, so can she.

Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Jeff Carson was posted to RD only. We’re discussing whether Lynn should get a blurb.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:38, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose It doesn't matter how important she was when the article is at least 50 citations short of being suitable for the Main Page. Black Kite (talk) 22:46, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support RD. Article is a long way away, but remember that this woman wrote most of her own material. RIP. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:34, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose ...until a lot more citations are found for the article. It is hopelessly under-sourced. And I can't see why a blurb is needed here. There is nothing blurbworthy about her death. She was obviously well known in her country, but I haven't seen blurbs for performers equally well known in other countries. HiLo48 (talk) 23:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality. Per HiLo48, Black Kite, et al. I also notice that the article is orange-tagged at the top saying it has “Multiple Issues,” which is usually not the best of signs when it comes to article quality. 2600:6C44:237F:ACCB:B043:B00D:FAA5:596E (talk) 00:09, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Way short on references. (Also oppose a blurb, if it ever gets that far.) Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:18, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support She’s way too influential to be ignored. The quality of the article is fine, but I understand we’re picky. Just a shame such a titan is being ignored… Donignacio (talk) 01:10, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Donignacio, this is a long section for someone who is allegedly being "ignored". Help us fix the article and it'll be posted sooner. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion on the “nomination” page is not what I meant. The article itself appears in my estimation to be comprehensive, but I’m not picky. At this point, the time has passed, I’m afraid. I just wonder if there’s other motives at play. Donignacio (talk) 03:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Articles that are boldly linked on the main page need to be of high quality to represent WP's best work. Her article may be comprehensive, but its sourcing is presently shoddy and not representative of WP's best. That needs to be fixed before it can be posted. Masem (t) 12:39, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Why the heck do people expect items to be posted in less than 24 hours? We've had anomalies of items that get posted even faster than that, sure, but it's not the norm around here. I'll never believe that it is. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 14:18, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Just because you don't know how things work at ITN/C does not excuse the lack of good faith you are presuming with that other motives crack. Our motive is posting sourced content. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I’m making an observation that, in my opinion, there is an injustice. An opportunity to highlight a transformative female figure lost. But sure, I’ll make it my personal mission to improve Loretta Lynn’s Wikipedia article. Donignacio (talk) 02:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

That thing you just sarcastically dismissed- making it your personal mission to improve articles- is our entire purpose in being here. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I was being serious. I just can’t improve the article at this particular moment. If I wanted to get sarcastic, I’d have brought up all the cricket players who show up on the front page. Donignacio (talk) 13:48, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb, RD blurbs should be reserved for cases where sourcing could support a separate article on the death and funeral of the person. This occurs quite often, and is an indicator of how important the person was in the real world, instead of in the minds of those debating here. Abductive (reasoning) 06:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  That's not true at all. The ability or existence of separate death article is a very likely reason to post a blurb, but not limited to that. Masem (t) 12:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  Of course it's true, as it is an opinion of mine and of some other editors. I will state my opinion every time a non-blurb-worthy person is nominated. Abductive (reasoning) 15:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb American country music fans is a pretty niche demographic, kinda like French hip hop fans or something. Not known widely enough for a blurb imo. AryKun (talk)

Incredible though it may seem to some of us, there are fans of 'American' country music outside the U.S. – Sca (talk) 19:32, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Indeed, Garth Brooks last month sold out an 80,000 capacity stadium in Dublin, Ireland on each of the 5 nights he performed Josey Wales ^Parley 21:45, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

As did Michael Bublé and Robbie Williams, who are way more famous. I may enjoy a night in with a Bollywood film, a souvlaki take away, and a game of mahjong, but just as enjoying those things do not make those things any less Indian, Greek and Chinese respectively, neither does the fact people may enjoy country music outside the US make it any less American. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:16, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

There are indeed also French hip hop fans outside of the francophone world. Though I would very much love to blurb top-of-their-field people in niche genres, we'll also get Dolly Parton and Bob Dylan as US country blurbs in the future. US country is represented just fine, and Lynn isn't quite up there. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Never mind French hip-hop, we didn't even consider blurbing recently deceased American world hip-hop star Coolio! Abcmaxx (talk) 12:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I can imagine a few world-famous American hip-hop stars we will certainly blurb when the time comes! Hopefully this won't be for a long time, however, as they're all still quite young ^_^ ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

He was 59. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb It's very US-centric fame and a niche music genre. She may be well known in the US and among fans of country music, but absolutely anonymous outside of that. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:58, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality as well. Aside from issues already raised by others, the article is all over the place; lots of content which is all jumbled up in half-prose half-lists, horrible to navigate and horrible to read. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Discography is now cited. Thriley (talk) 16:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support RD now. I would ask for what value of X in "Xth best country singer alive" or "Xth best country singer of all time" a blurb is justified. Clearly we're already in a niche genre, so I'm going to say 1st & 5th respectively, and she is not there. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support blurb Subject to the article referencing being fixed up. Loretta Lynn's fame transcends country music - way more famous than the other people who have been mentioned here except Hank Williams (and would not be their opinion if you asked them). She is an important historical figure associated with the women's movement of the 1970s, through singing about topics previously considered taboo, such as birth control, domestic violence and double standards. Sissy Spacek won the Oscar for portraying her in the movie Coal Miner's Daughter. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:59, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Way more famous than the likes of Johnny Cash and Dolly Parton? I don't think that's likely. Humbledaisy (talk) 21:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Dolly Parton would not agree. Jack White from The White Stripes called her both a "mother figure" and "the greatest female singer-songwriter of the 20th century". "She was such an incredible presence and such a brilliant genius in ways that I think only people who got to work with her might know about. What she did for feminism, women's rights in a time period, in a genre of music that was the hardest to do it in, is just outstanding and will live on for a long time." [6] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:29, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Aye, in ways that I think only people who got to work with her might know about. I think a lot of us have lost a co-worker like that, maybe several, great people once you get to know them. As a mainstream music fan who also knows a thing or two about American pop culture until 2006, I'm almost certain Dolly Parton is the female country star. Then there's Shania, Reba and Faith. Loretta's not chopped liver, but neither are Leann, Tanya and Wynonna. Photo RD, when ready, if ever. No blurb for Jack White, either, whenever. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb – Adding a clearer !vote for the closing admin. I believe US country will be well-represented over time, and Loretta Lynn is just not quite up there. If this were a GA I might've swayed in favor, but all these one-sentence paragraphs just aren't great featuring material anyway. Article doesn't seem quite ready yet for RD either; I hope those citation-neededs will be fixed soon! ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Nobel Prize in Physics

Articles: Alain Aspect (talk · history · tag) and John Clauser (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Nobel Prize in Physics is awarded to Alain Aspect (pictured), John Clauser, and Anton Zeilinger for their work in quantum mechanics. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Aspect's article is ready to go. Clauser and Zeilinger are about 75% there in terms of sourcing. Masem (t) 12:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - Looks good to me(also this is my first time voting, so please tell me if I'm doing anything wrong) PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:11, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• This comment is totally fine, PrecariousWorlds, and I'm sure everyone here will be happy to have another voice in the discussions here. The three articles indeed look quite decent so this will probably be ready to get featured on ITN in the near future. I'm personally going to wait with my !vote until John Clauser's article is expanded a bit more tho. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:17, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you! I hope I can be of help to this project. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:18, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support... although Alain Aspect's article has a missing reference ([10]); there needs to be more references of Clauser's article (there's only two, and his entire biographical section only relies on a single source, not enough); at a glance, there are no issues for Zellinger's article. Been some time I made a nomination, hope my viewpoints arent rusty. Cheers, gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 13:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  In Zeilinger's article, the awards section is largely unreferenced, this needs fixing before we can post. Tone 14:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  Your right. Over 20 awards, and none of them cited. Cheers, gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 15:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  Hello, Are you sure we need to fix this before posting? The news might get stale in the meantime. It happened last year ! Why not just remove the unsourced information and post the news? Varoon2542 (talk) 16:41, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment. Can someone with the ability try to create a composite image that combines the three awardees into a single picture? Is combining three images a tad difficult? Tagging Masem who iirc has created composite images in the past. Ktin (talk) 18:57, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 14:24, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Nobel prize is a major event and comes in ITN. Alex-h (talk) 15:02, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

  that has never been questioned. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:06, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Not ready I've orange-tagged the articles because they still don't meet the quality requirements as the CN tags they've have not been fixed. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose for now: Alain Aspect has a few inline cn tags that should be easily fixable, but also the entire Awards section is completely unsourced. A big paragraph in John Clauser is also unsourced. Anton Zeilinger is almost catastrophically unsourced: there are around a dozen-and-a-half cn tags, and a huge portion of the Awards section is unsourced.
• Not ready I've boldly commented out uncited sections and two of the bios are ready, but Anton Zeilinger is a show-stopper. Schwede66 00:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  I'm sorry but this is getting a bit urgent. Last year, one nobel prize win in science was not posted for similar reasons. Quite shameful. Can't the uncited sections be removed and the blurb published? Regards Varoon2542 (talk) 10:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Varoon2542 There are 28 citation needed tags and not everything that is uncited is tagged. So no, this isn't remotely ready and if you removed everything that's uncited, there would not be much left. Major exercise required to fix this. You are welcome to have a go at this, though. Schwede66 06:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  I do get your point. I can't have a go at it, I'm not that good. Well, we are moving forward to another year when a Nobel Prize in Science won't be featured on the main page. By the time the article is up to standards, the news will be stale. I remember a time when many complained that there weren't enough editors for sociology articles on wikipedia. Apparently, we don't have enough persons for science articles now. So much so for an universal encyclopaedia. Varoon2542 (talk) 15:07, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose All currently fail WP:ITNCRIT with only one-line updates to the pages:

  The decision as to when an article is updated enough is subjective, but a five-sentence update (with at minimum three references, not counting duplicates) is generally more than sufficient, while a one-sentence update is highly questionable.

  —Bagumba (talk) 13:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

  Again, what else can you say about winning the Nobel beyond a sentence or two? Common sense has to apply here. Masem (t) 15:12, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  2/3 articles are fine. Zeilinger's is still heavily tagged with cn on sections other than Nobel Prize. Tone 15:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

October 3

Portal:Current events/2022 October 3

October 3, 2022 (2022-10-03) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive Ukrainian forces advance more than 20 kilometres (12 mi) along the Dnieper towards Dudchany, Kherson Oblast, in what is being called a "major breakthrough". (Reuters) The Russian Defence Ministry dismisses Colonel General Alexander Zhuravlyov in response to a series of military defeats in Ukraine. He is replaced as commander of the Western Military District by Major General Roman Berdnikov. (Reuters) Somali Civil War October 2022 Beledweyne bombings Twenty people are killed and 36 others are injured by two al-Shabaab suicide bombers when fifty-six gunmen and drug gangs open fire in a mass shooting at the local government headquarters in Beledweyne. The health minister of Hirshabelle and Hiran's deputy governor for finance and security are among the dead. (AP) (Shabelle Media Network) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Two Palestinians are killed and another is wounded as Israeli soldiers open fire against a vehicle in the Jalazone refugee camp, Ramallah and al-Bireh Governorate, in the occupied West Bank. (Al Jazeera) 2021–2022 North Korean missile tests North Korea launches a suspected ballistic missile towards Japan with the Japanese government warning residents in Hokkaido and Aomori prefectures to immediately seek shelter. It later landed in the Pacific. The launch comes after a series of balloon launches and placard protests from South Korea and various military exercises involving the US. (Bloomberg) (WNYT-TV) (BBC News) Ten people are injured when a homemade explosive device explodes in Butembo, North Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Reuters) Business and economy American wiki hosting service Fandom purchases numerous entertainment and review sites, such as TV Guide, Metacritic, and GameSpot, for US$50 million. (Variety) Disasters and accidents 2022 Atlantic hurricane season The U.S. death toll from Hurricane Ian increases to 87, with around 10,000 people remaining unaccounted for. (NBC News) (The Guardian) 2022 Pacific hurricane season Hurricane Orlene makes landfall in the Mexican state of Sinaloa as a Category 1 hurricane. (Reuters) Health and environment North Korea restricts movement due to COVID-19. The announcement was made minutes after it launched a missile over Japan. (RFA) Law and crime 2022 Ecuador prison riots Fifteen people are killed and 21 others injured when a prison riot open fire in a mass shooting in Latacunga, Cotopaxi Province, Ecuador. (Reuters) Agriculture in Kenya The Cabinet of Kenya votes to overturn a law prohibiting the open cultivation of genetically modified crops, and William Ruto officially authorizes the use of genetically modified maize. (AP) Science and technology 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine Swedish geneticist Svante Pääbo is awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine for "his discoveries concerning the genomes of extinct hominins and human evolution". (The Washington Post)

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RD: Kim Jung Gi

Article: Kim Jung Gi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, Daily Mail
Credits:

• Nominated by CoatCheck (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Acclaimed comic book artist. CoatCheck (talk) 01:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Article has multiple citation needed tags. The "Bibliography" section is entirely unsourced. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 01:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tiffany Jackson

Article: Tiffany Jackson (basketball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit) and Bagumba (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:51, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support meets RD breadth and sourcing requiements.—Bagumba (talk) 11:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support solid C class bio. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support - RD ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: William K. Brewster

Article: William K. Brewster (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 21:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Another short but well-referenced article. Of course, good to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 17:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ron Franz

Article: Ron Franz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article is short but well-referenced. Looks good to go.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:48, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support G2G. marking as ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:36, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 17:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Eamonn McCabe

Article: Eamonn McCabe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Yorkshiresky (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit) and Pigsonthewing (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Notable sports photographer. Article a bit short but looks in good shape. yorkshiresky (talk) 18:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Not just sports; he has several works in the Nattional Portrait Gallery and other collections, also. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and now meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Article is good and has enough information. Alex-h (talk) 16:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 17:51, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Jerzy Urban

Article: Jerzy Urban (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, EuroNews
Credits:

• Nominated by Bruzaholm (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bruzaholm (talk) 14:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Urban served as official spokesman of the Polish Communist regime in 1981-89. Infamous for press conference after the introduction of martial law on Dec. 13, 1981, during which 100 dissidents were killed. -- Bruzaholm (talk) 14:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment a key figure in Poland. I have expanded the article a bit, ultimately it doesn't really reflect just how much he was generally loathed in Poland, even among those who secretly enjoy the satire of Nie. More references needed regarding his early life. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

probably not blurb-worthy on en-wiki, but a photo may be appropriate? Abcmaxx (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

IAR aside, I thought we had a policy that photos are for blurbs only. The most recent discussion I could find- [9] GreatCaesarsGhost 21:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – RD only. Generally unknown outside PL. – Sca (talk) 14:50, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  agree. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support RD no blurb - former spokesperson of Polish Communist Regime CR-1-AB (talk) 16:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose for now Way too many unsourced paragraphs, including the entire "Court case for offence to John-Paul II" section. Curbon7 (talk) 18:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

2022 Bosnian general election

Article: 2022 Bosnian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ SNSD win a plurality of votes in the Bosnian general election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Bosnian general election, Denis Bećirović, Željko Komšić and Željka Cvijanović (pictured) are elected to the Presidency.
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kirbapara (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article needs a lot more prose. Very complicated electoral system with 3x president's elected too Abcmaxx (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – Bosnia is fairly sui generis as a political system but the elections of the three Members of the Presidency are politically more significant than the election of the House of Representatives. "Winning a plurality of votes" is fairly insignificant as Bosnia and Herzegovina is like Belgium or Lebanon, where the parties are not directly competing with each other. JackWilfred (talk) 10:55, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment agree with JackWilfred. Maybe a better blurb would highlight the 3 people that were elected to the Presidency? AltBlurb proposed. Khuft (talk) 11:15, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  Much better. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:42, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment As usual, the "Preliminary results" section needs prose and a section on Reactions/Aftermath needs to be added. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:47, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment I think there shouldn't be a picture, due to the obvious ethnic implications (we don't want to be seen as preferring one ethnic group). Curbon7 (talk) 18:29, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Good point. Although the image can be rotated or someone can make a collage with three (which I don’t know how to do and I preferred to put the pic of the only woman). In any case, we are in days of Nobel prizes, so it would hardly stand out many days a photo of the new members of the presidency in the event that this nomination succeeds. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Agreed, as much as I love the idea of a rotating one, I think it's just easier not to include a picture. JackWilfred (talk) 09:56, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Support AltBlurb and Oppose picture, as per above. JamesLewisBedford01 (talk) 08:52, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support AltBlurb, I think the article is looking good. The BLPs look alright, but I would recommend fixing up the citations of Željka Cvijanović if possible. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• There is no prose on the actual result, it's all background, electoral system and results tables currently. Stephen 22:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

2022 Bulgarian snap parliamentary election

Article: 2022 Bulgarian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ GERB-SDS alliance (leader Boyko Borisov pictured) wins a plurality of votes in the snap Bulgarian parliamentary election. (Post)
News source(s): DW
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Yet another election in Bulgaria. Article needs a lot more prose. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality For the usual reasons: there's no prose about the results, there's no section on reactions or aftermath and it would be nice if there was more prose in the other sections where there are only tables. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:28, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Still seriously lacking prose, and one of the three short paragraphs is even uncited. Nowhere near the required levels for ITN. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine

Articles: 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (talk · history · tag) and Svante Pääbo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Svante Pääbo is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on extinct hominin genomes and human evolution. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Svante Pääbo is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work on human evolutionary genetics.
News source(s): Reuters, CBS News, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)
• Created by JB Hoang Tam (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Davey2116 (talk) 09:58, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• I guess 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine is not bad as a list article, but it's a bit stubby for my liking. Pääbo's article looks good, though, so I will probably support this soon if the former is expanded a bit more :) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment The "Laureate" section of the Nobel article needs sources and a "Reactions" section should be added. In Pääbo article, there are tags to be fixed and sources to be added in some paragraphs. But in general both bolded articles are fine and will be ready soon. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  I would remove the entire "unofficial possible nominees" section because this is just speculations - or at least condense it to a single-paragraph prose instead of a table with flags and all that. The laureate himself should be the sole bolded article, and it is good to go as soon as the cn tags get fixed. Tone 14:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. As every year, this is brand news and deserves ITN. And tomorrow (and from then on) there's more. MSN12102001 (talk) 23:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment I am concerned on the specific year article here. I don't recall us doing that with the Nobels before (the overall listing of each award, yes), and the fact that the shortlist of candidates for the award are not made public makes that current list there highly suspect and OR (even though those are all pointing to secondary articles saying "These people should get awards". If you take that list out, that only leaves the winner, which is what the other bold link covers. --Masem (t) 01:11, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, lists of people who have been called X (candidates in this case) typically become unwieldy directories with no selection criteria of who is WP:DUE to be included. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ice hockey players considered the greatest of all time.—Bagumba (talk) 13:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Last year (and past?), we just linked to the general Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine page.[10].—Bagumba (talk) 13:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  Can I post this now? I would just like to see some explicit support. Not planning to link the 2022 article, just the laureate. Tone 13:38, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• If Pääbo is the article under discussion then I support featuring it. It looks good. The normal Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine article looks good too. 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine might deserve an AfD discussion? Regardles, it is of insufficient quality for ITN. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:24, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posting. --Tone 14:43, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment. A few unsourced sentences and a couple of tags. Please see if anyone can fill those, now that the article is on the mainpage. Ktin (talk) 01:19, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Pull Only paltry one-sentence update about the Nobel prize at the bolded Svante Pääbo, failing WP:ITNCRIT (emphasis added):

  The decision as to when an article is updated enough is subjective, but a five-sentence update (with at minimum three references, not counting duplicates) is generally more than sufficient, while a one-sentence update is highly questionable.

  —Bagumba (talk) 08:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) 2022 Brazilian general election

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Article: 2022 Brazilian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Lula (PT) wins the 1st round of the general election but has to face Bolsonaro (PL) in a 2nd round run-off. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Lula da Silva of the Workers Party wins a plurality in the Brazilian general election, and will face a runoff with incumbent President Jair Bolsonaro of the the Liberal Party.
News source(s): The Guardian, Washington Post, AP, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by Jvalienforce (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Paladinum2 (talk · give credit), Vcardozobr (talk · give credit), Erick Soares3 (talk · give credit), LucasIII3 (talk · give credit) and Guarapiranga (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Heading to the 2nd round. Article in good shape. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:21, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Would it make more sense to just post the result of the run-off once it happens instead of double posting? Curbon7 (talk) 07:34, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Post the second round results. The first round results of the French presidential election wasnt posted. Only the Second round. Haris920 (talk) 07:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The results from the first round are not ITN/R when there is a run-off. We post when the winner is known, so wait until that happens.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Question Since this was a general election, covering also the totality of the Chamber of Deputies, parts of the Senate, the governors and state assemblies, shouldn't we at least post the results of the election to the Chamber of Deputies? The presidential election can then be posted on 30. October. Article wouldn't be ready yet - results of the legislative part of the elections hasn't been updated yet. Khuft (talk) 08:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Wait for the result of the run off. Then we can post the president and any legislative information relevant at that time.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Nominator comment the ongoing nomination was closed and opposed as it was said that first round should be posted as a blurb. Now this nomination is being opposed too which I find inconsistent; in that case surely the ongoing nomination should be re-considered. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  Neither of those things is appropriate. It is not "ongoing" in the usual sense, where there are daily updates to post. This is just a two-part election, and we'll post the result once the second part is complete.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Usually I would agree, however: most elections do not have daily political violence in the lead up nor the real possibility of an armed coup. Furthermore most elections do not have 156 million eligible voters spanning a large percentage of a whole continent. If anything this result will increase the amount of incidents in between rounds. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

That's a valid point, but would those day-to-day events be significant enough to feature on the main page? Keep in mind we have ongoing wars with thousands of deaths that never make the main page. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

If there is a coup then of course that it would be considered, regardless of everything else. So far, however, the only thing we got are leaked private conversations (which were about personal preferences and not actual plans), and excessive precautions. Lula asked the US to immediately recognize the winner (a part that the article did not mention), and the US accepted, for fear of an incident similar to that of Trump... and because it's the standard procedure, anyway. Cambalachero (talk) 12:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

If violence is part of the significance of this item, then it should probably be included in the blurb. It would be nice if we could quantify the violence. This does warm me up for an ongoing spot. That being said, the violence should probably be quantified better in the lede of the article. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose: Do it when the second election is held and we have a definitive winner. Otherwise, we would have to post this twice this month. And that time, please use the full names, "Lula Da Silva" and "Jair Bolsonaro", not just "Lula" and "Bolsonaro". Cambalachero (talk) 12:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  I definitely agree about using full names. Trillfendi (talk) 15:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment – From what I've seen, Lula's success has come as a surprise, possibly significant enough in itself for a blurb – especially since Brazil is far and away South America's most populous country. – Sca (talk) 13:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Actually, it's the other way. Polls before the election announced that Lula would win by a landslide, way ahead of Bolsonaro, and even enough to win without a runoff election. Although he won, he did so by a lower margin than expected, as Bolsonaro got more votes than expected. He was even wining when the first partial results were announced! Cambalachero (talk) 13:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh.  ;-) ... But still seems significant. – Sca (talk) 13:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose Wait for the run-off.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 2

Portal:Current events/2022 October 2

October 2, 2022 (2022-10-02) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine 2022 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive Ukrainian troops recapture Khreshchenivka as they continue to advance southwards in the Russian-occupied Kherson Oblast, with Russia's 49th Combined Arms Army reportedly withdrawing some troops from the frontline to Beryslav. (Forbes) Israeli–Palestinian conflict A taxi driver is shot and wounded by Palestinian militants near Elon Moreh in the West Bank. A demonstration by local Israeli settlers to protest the incident is attacked with gunfire, wounding a soldier. A Palestinian group called The Lion's Den claims responsibility for the incident. (Times of Israel) (Times of Israel 2) September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes A video emerges showing Azerbaijani soldiers executing unarmed Armenian prisoners of war during clashes between Azerbaijan and Armenia last month. (South China Morning Post) Second Libyan Civil War A mass grave of 42 people is found in Sirte, Libya, after arrested Islamic State militants tip off authorities. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2022 Atlantic hurricane season The death from Hurricane Ian rises to 87. (NBC News) Twenty-six people are killed and ten others are injured when a tractor pulling a wagon with around 40 people on board overturns into a pond in Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh, India. (AP) Health and environment Haitian authorities announce an unexpected resurgence of cholera in the country and report that at least seven people have died from the disease. (Reuters) Law and crime Mahsa Amini protests A stand-off ensues between students, protesters, and Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps forces in and around the Sharif University of Tehran, as gunfire is reported amid an apparent siege of the building. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Annexation of Southern and Eastern Ukraine The Constitutional Court of Russia says that the annexation is constitutional, citing the need to correct the "arbitrary decisions of the Soviet government" and to prevent the claimed widespread repression of the Russians in Ukraine. It was later also clarified that the borders of the annexed subjects are intended to be those at the time of annexation. (RBC Russia) 2022 Brazilian general election Brazilians head to the polls to elect their president, vice president, and National Congress. (The Washington Post) Incumbent president Jair Bolsonaro and former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva will face off in a runoff election on October 30. Lula obtained 48.3% of the vote, Bolsonaro 43.3%. (The Washington Post) 2022 Bulgarian parliamentary election Bulgarians head to the polls for the fourth time in 18 months to elect members of the National Assembly. (Al Jazeera) 2022 Bosnian general election Bosnians head to the polls to elect the three members of their ethnically shared government. (AP) Sports 2022 Singapore Grand Prix Sergio Pérez wins the F1 Singapore GP as his teammate Max Verstappen missed the chance to win the championship. (The Guardian) 2022 London Marathon Yalemzerf Yehualaw of Ethiopia becomes the youngest woman to win the London Marathon while Amos Kipruto of Kenya wins the men's race. (The Guardian) In horse racing, Alpinista wins the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe in Paris, France. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Douglas Kirkland

Article: Douglas Kirkland (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; CTV News (Canadian Press); Variety
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 12:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shirley Englehorn

Article: Shirley Englehorn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LPGA Tour
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 06:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support - looks good. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 15:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support looks ready. Skynxnex (talk) 17:01, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 19:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Laurence Silberman

Article: Laurence Silberman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WSJ, WSJ again
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 03:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support There's a CN tag in the "Academic career". But the article is in great shape. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment I've added a CN tag because I wasn't able to find a source to support the claim that he had written In re: Sealed Case No. 02-001. Other than that, the article looks great.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support, Article is fine. Alex-h (talk) 16:21, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support: I resolved the CN tag, and everything else seems to be in order. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sacheen Littlefeather

Article: Sacheen Littlefeather (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety; The Hollywood Reporter; Deadline Hollywood, BBC, DW
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 03:21, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Her article is ready to go. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:55, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Excellently written article about an outstanding individual, it's ready to go! Ornithoptera (talk) 07:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – Quite widely covered. – Sca (talk) 13:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support: Her death has been widely covered in WP:RS and the article is in a good state. TartarTorte 14:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted already by another admin. --PFHLai (talk) 16:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

RD: Darshan Dharmaraj

Article: Darshan Dharmaraj (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [11]
Credits:

• Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Titanciwiki (talk) 02:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Article is a stub, mostly just a filmography list. Not sure this meets on quality. - Indefensible (talk) 04:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  It's still early. This wikibio still has quite a few days of eligibility remaining. Let's assume User:Titanciwiki and others will beef it up in the next few days. -- PFHLai (talk) 09:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) Ongoing: Mahsa Amini protests

Article: Mahsa Amini protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): JPost, ABC, Time, BBC, Reuters, VOA, Iran Intl, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Updated by LouisAragon (talk · give credit) and rolf h nelson (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Event continues to evolve and receive coverage since posting on September 22. - Indefensible (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose because the blurb fell off ITN 3 days ago, and we didn't post it to Ongoing when that happened. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 23:45, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  Items don’t get automatically posted to ongoing when they drop off. They need a separate nomination, which is exactly what this is. Stephen 00:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Per nom. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support – Article is being actively maintained and the ongoing protests are clearly still of an appropriate level of significantness. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 06:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support definitely ongoing and constantly in the news Abcmaxx (talk) 07:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support The protests are still ongoing & still in the news. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 08:15, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Protests are still ongoing indeed. --HistoryofIran (talk) 08:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted as ongoing – Muboshgu (talk) 21:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks. Significant. [12] – Sca (talk) 12:33, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

• Further coverage: [13] [14] [15] [16][17] -- Sca (talk) 12:39, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) 2022 London Marathon

Article: 2022 London Marathon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yalemzerf Yehualaw of Ethiopia becomes the youngest woman to win the London Marathon whilst Amos Kipruto (pictured) of Kenya wins the men's race. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Created by Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Alibene567 (talk · give credit) and Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I added this to current news portal. We posted the Berlin marathon not long ago, I believe this is just as notable. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment This is on WP:ITNR, so no comparisons to Berlin needed (which incidentally was only posted indirectly because of the world record).—Bagumba (talk) 19:07, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose for now pending sourced prose on the actual race and results.—Bagumba (talk) 19:09, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment: i have added to the nomination the article creator and the editor who posted the results. Abcmaxx, if an editor eventually updates the article with a race summary, could you add that updater to the nomination and mark the nomination as updated? thanks in advance. dying (talk) 00:43, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Done. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

the race summary section hasn't been updated, though; in fact, that section is still using future tense. for comparison, this is how the summary for last year's race looked like when the associated blurb was posted to itn. dying (talk) 22:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

I've fixed the tense issues and updated who of the expected competitors actually ran but a prose summary is still required. Thryduulf (talk) 08:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted, prose summary was added. Stephen 01:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Alpinista wins the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe

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Articles: Alpinista (talk · history · tag) and Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In horse racing, Alpinista wins the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I added this to current news portal. I know very little about horse racing, but both articles are in good shape and from their content I gather this is a notable horse winning a prestigious event. Abcmaxx (talk) 18:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose and snow close not ITNR. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Events that are in a class covered by ITNR but not an ITNR themselves are not immediately disqualified from being posted, just they have the usual ITNC process to review. Masem (t) 19:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• • Agree. -- Sca (talk) 19:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
    • What/whom is it you are agreeing with by the way? Abcmaxx (talk) 19:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • There's no reason to snow close. A recurring event can't become ITN/R until it passes ITN as a regular candidate. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Likewise I do not see why this should be closed just because it's not ITN/R. If we did that nothing would ever get posted bar a small handful of ever-diminishing number of recurring events.Abcmaxx (talk) 19:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
    • Yes, but what you cannot deny is that a sporting event is not the same as a political or scientific event. These last ones can be debated (as it has happened in so many other occasions correctly) and come to the conclusion that in spite of not being listed as ITNR, they might be notorious. But in sporting events, more simply, if they are no longer ITNR, they can hardly be ITN. I remind again that not everything that’s in the news, should be proposed here. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
      • Disagree, all items can be ITN if they are not ITN/R, just as all items can be reasonably debated; that is a core principle of Wikipedia. We also should not be weighting different topics differently either, that us a very slippery slope and poor precedent to set. If you object to the notability of the event then please state your case why, rather than trying to force through a blanket oppose with little merit. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
      • ITN/R is a page designed for more easily pushing through items. You cannot use it to argue that something shouldn't be featured. Is what you intended to say simply "I do not believe this event is at the level of importance required for ITN"? If so, I would like to know more about how it compares with other horse racing events and why it's so much less important. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

      @Alsoriano97: You have it totally backwards. Items cannot be added to ITN/R until they have been nominated and posted through ITN. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 12:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

      ok, thanks for the clarification. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose on article quality and significance. Contrary to the nomination text, most of the article is completely unreferenced and is quite short for a race that dates back to 1920. - Fuzheado | Talk 23:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose – Multiple "This section does not cite any sources" banners. Not appropriate for ITN if the article is not of sufficient quality. Not comment on significance. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 06:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The nomination should actually be for 2022 Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, not the generic race page. In any event, that 2022 page is a stub, so fails on quality. I'm also not hearing arguments on why this is significant for posting.—Bagumba (talk) 11:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose What Aslor is getting at (I think) is a general consensus about how we treat sports with many top-tier events. We don't want any sport to have lots of posts simply because of a lack of consensus about which event is premier. Historical discussions have pared horse racing to four ITN/R events, while explicitly excluding very prominent races (Santa Anita, Belmont and Preakness) to keep the number down. While consensus can change, this event's absence at ITN/R is a reflection of community consensus of its relative insignificance. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  That is circular reasoning. Again, an item doesn't get nominated for ITN/R unless it passes the significance test at ITN/C by showing it has been posted at least a couple of times. And its absence from ITN/C (and by extension ITN/R) in the past does not necessarily mean it's insignificant, but could simply be that someone who had interest in the subject matter finally came along and decided to argue for its posting. I remember in the past that we didn't have any sumo-related items on ITN/R until someone decided to step up and nominate the yokozuna promotions on ITN/C. It was interesting and unusual, and something that none of us had really considered before. We're not omniscient. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 14:23, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

  I agree it would be circular reasoning if I was making that argument you suggest I am. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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(Closed) Ramzan Kadyrov

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Article: Ramzan Kadyrov (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ramzan Kadyrov joins the Russian rightwing, including Dmitry Medvedev, in advocating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ramzan Kadyrov joins the Russian right in advocating the use of battlefield nuclear weapons.
News source(s): CNN. Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by johncdraper (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Majority of Russian right now pressuring Putin to nuke Ukraine Johncdraper (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Strong oppose on the following:

1. Cannot see the ITN/R rationale anywhere.

2. Nominated article is about an individual not an event.

3. Threats of nuclear aggression are an ongoing Russian propaganda tool since February invasion, and arguably since the start of the Cold War.

4. Covered in ongoing.

5. Lacks any significance; all talk no action.

6. Sources only mention this remark in passing, and not widely commented upon elsewhere.

Abcmaxx (talk) 13:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• This is clearly not ITNR. I've removed that from the nom template. --PFHLai (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose and snow close simply not. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Snow close Per above. This is just one of many comments made by various Russian officials during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. ITN is clearly not the place to feature this. Gust Justice (talk) 14:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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2022 Latvian parliamentary election

Article: 2022 Latvian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 2022 Latvian parliamentary election, the ruling New Unity wins a minority. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Latvian parliamentary election, the ruling center-right New Unity (leader Krišjānis Kariņš pictured) wins a plurality of seats.
News source(s): bloomberg.com. euronews.com, DW, France 24, Baltic Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Haris920 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: 97% of the votes have been counted. The center right party is victorious. Haris920 (talk) 10:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose for now This is ITNR, but the article, specifically the aftermath section, will need some expansion before being posted. Also the blurb should use the term "plurality" rather than minority. Gust Justice (talk) 11:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support once expanded and Altblurb added. Quantum XYZ (talk) 11:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality. Lots of stats not nearly enough prose. Only 1 sentence of aftermath. Very little background and given inflation, energy and national security crises currently ongoing in Latvia, as well as language and ethnic tensions and refugee crises due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, these really need to be added to the article and their effect on the election. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Support once expanded looks like the article is in the process of being improved. also prefer the alt blurb. e.b. (talk) 15:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support ALT1 once expanded. ALT1 is more clear of what the result actually was. Curbon7 (talk) 21:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality I've added some Cn tags and there are tables that have no citation either. The "Results" section needs to have prose. This article needs one more push to be ready. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment – The Union of Greens and Farmers will not support a government led by New Unity leader Krišjānis Karinš, Aivars Lembergs says. – Sca (talk) 13:42, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
• Article looks quite decent, especially once I found the Aftermath section at the bottom, but I feel like it wouldn't look good to ITN an article with an "Update" template header at the top. We feature articles here because they are updated with the most recent information. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Made changes Haris920 (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: Brazilian general election

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Article: 2022 Brazilian general election (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by MSN12102001 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

 MSN12102001 (talk) 09:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Wait for results and nominate them as blurb, not ongoing. a!rado (C✙T) 09:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Just post the results the first round results are in. I don't recall having an ongoing section for the French Presidential election which is similar to this. Haris920 (talk) 10:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Strongly disagree, this nothing like the French election. Brazil is a much larger country both in terms of population and area, therefore the gap between the two rounds is much longer. Very different circumstances of the candidates and background to this election too. Furthermore and most importantly, France did not have a president that would realistically decline to recognise the results if lost and threaten reinstate a military dictatorship. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Wait let's see if the 2nd round is needed first; then given the particular set of circumstances this would qualify in between the rounds to have it as ongoing. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose as ongoing Unless the result of the second round is particularly close. Obviously if a candidate wins a majority in the first round, then the article should be posted per ITNR. Gust Justice (talk) 17:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Wait Until theres results, theres nothing to blurb/post; if Lula wins outright, it should just be a blurb; if a second round is needed, given the high profile of this election and the vitriol coming from the candidates and thier supporters, I think ongoing would be warrented. (this is not to say that 2 round election cycles should generally be nominated for ongoing between the votes) ✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  18:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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(Posted) 2022 World Rally Champions

Article: 2022 World Rally Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motorsport, Kalle Rovanperä and Jonne Halttunen win the World Rally Championship. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In motorsport, Kalle Rovanperä wins the World Rally Championship, becoming the youngest World Rally Champion at the age of 22.
News source(s): wrc.com, dirtfish.com, autosport.com
Credits:

• Nominated by Unnamelessness (talk · give credit)
• Created by Mclarenfan17 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Despite the season has not finished yet, I believe the story is good to post as this is a record-breaking year. Unfortunately, I could not find a good image from Commons, so it would be very appreciated if someone could upload the free work of Rovanperä. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support for the alternative blurb with notability on the age. Compared with the other FIA sanctioned top-tier racing series, the F1, Sebastian Vettel's age was above 23 when he became a champion. 86.50.68.196 (talk) 05:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support great quality article. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Not seeing any coverage in the news media (unlike F1) and so it's not "in the news". For example, Dirtfish is a driving school! Andrew🐉(talk) 12:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Actually, major media like BBC, Reuters do report the event, just hours late. Unnamelessness (talk) 14:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Comment – Absent from main RS sites. – Sca (talk) 12:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • If you want to question the ITNR-appropriateness, that's something to discuss at the talk page. --Masem (t) 13:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Major world sports event, and more so in motorsport, just behind F1; so even if this was true then it would be more a reflection of the state of sports reporting rather than anything else. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support - Page looks to be in good shape, reported at BBC and Reuters. Youngest world champion is significant enough to make the blurb but I'm not sure it needs a link. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 16:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support – Article is looking good, nice work! Having the featured list bolded as well is a nice touch (though looking at it, I'm not big on how that list is formatted...) ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 06:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• support. itn/r states that "events are generally posted as soon as a winner is determined", so this seems like the right time to post, rather than when the season finishes. the age record also gives us a good opportunity to link to a featured list. dying (talk) 08:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• MOS:EGG comment In the alt blurb, the link of "the youngest World Rally Champion" is MOS:EGG when the underlying list does not show the drivers' ages. The fact that she is the youngest is already captured in 2022 World Rally Championship.—Bagumba (talk) 13:29, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • The age list is covered at List_of_World_Rally_Championship_records#Age. Unnamelessness (talk) 15:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Fixing MOS:EGG by adding an age section. Unnamelessness (talk) 02:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

    Seems like someone objected and has removed it from List of World Rally Championship Drivers' champions.—Bagumba (talk) 11:08, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: Hurricane Ian

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Article: Hurricane Ian (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Hurricane Noah (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Ian is about to be displaced from the ITN box by two nominations that are getting ready to be posted. I propose that it go to ongoing while the search for survivors and remains is ongoing. The death toll has been rising quite a bit and it's expected to continue rising as searches continue pending the receding of water. Noah^Talk 02:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose - Hurricane that was and isnt a hurricane anymore therefore not ongoing. These happen all the time and yes people get caught up in them... It already got a blurb which is more than what the average cyclone gets (even when it is a cat 4-5 storm hitting settled areas).✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  02:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • "Older stories which are scheduled to roll off the bottom of the list may be added to ongoing at admins' discretion, provided that the linked article is receiving continuous updates with new information on a regular basis." - We did the same thing for Idai in 2019 for the same reason, which didn't roll off as fast as this storm is going to. This is still very much in the news as it is feared that hundreds may be dead. We should keep it as an ongoing while these searches are turning up dozens of bodies a day. Noah^Talk 02:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose Pretty sure natural disasters don't go in ongoing. Per 4amking, it isn't even a hurricane anymore so there is zero point in adding it to ongoing. Iamstillqw3rty (talk) 03:05, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • We have done it before. See no reason why we should kick an item that is clearly in the news off the ITN box. The storm itself is dead, yes, but the search for remains and survivors is very much ongoing and being covered in the news. There have been thousands of rescues and dozens of bodies uncovered each day. Noah^Talk 03:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

    For that storm, at the time it fell off ITN, it was still a storm and still causing destruction. Ian has petered out, no one is expected it to cause further damage, so it would not be required for ongoing in terms of covering the long-tail of aftermath. Masem (t) 14:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

It wasn't posted to ongoing because it was still a storm (it was only a remnant low by that time). It was posted (and survived a removal nom[18] after it had fully dissipated) because of the long-tail. Perhaps the better argument here is the scale of Idai was larger. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

@GreatCaesarsGhost:I wouldn't say that's the case. It's simply that southeastern Africa is less developed and has worse infrastructure and no way to deal with the aftermath of a storm. The days of a hurricane killing thousands in the mainland US are over because of infrastructure improvements and the government's ability to handle the aftermath of a storm. The scale of impact is similar, but less people died as a result of the US being able to evacuate and rescue people whereas that was not the case in Africa with Idai. There's still 10,000 people unaccounted for and a massive hunt for remains and survivors going on in Florida. The scale of the search operations are quite similar, however, less people will die in this case. Noah^Talk 20:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Also, we just hit 100 deaths in Florida with more expected as searches continue. That's the highest amount of deaths in a single mainland US state from a hurricane for quite some time, especially considering the amount of preparations and building codes that have been implemented in Florida to prevent disasters like this. Most US hurricanes don't even reach 100 deaths and their impacts are spread out amongst multiple states, so to get 100 in a single state speaks to how bad the situation there is. Noah^Talk 21:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose for now I'd rather just expand ITN to five blurbs for a few days than move Hurricane Ian to ongoing. I'll revisit this if it looks like three blurbs are going to be posted imminently. NorthernFalcon (talk) 04:53, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Is it ongoing? Yes. Is it notable and in the news? Yes. Significant impact? Yes. Article quality? Fine. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The article states "Hurricane Ian was'..." and "Dissipated: 2 October 2022". So no, it’s not longer ongoing. The fact that I will no longer be in MP is circumstantial. It is what it is as new entries have been included. That doesn’t make it any less noticeable (this is why it was posted days ago). Just do not overload the Main Page either with it. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose the article is for the hurricane itself, which is no longer ongoing. i think it makes more sense to keep updates on search and rescue to the current events tab, which is the norm for most disasters natural and otherwise. e.b. (talk) 16:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose - We've already posted a blurb on the impact of the hurricane.--🌈WaltCip-(talk) 16:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose – All over but the shouting. – Sca (talk) 19:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• I agree with Noah that larger storms should be considered for ongoing during the "long tail" period, but the article does not demonstrate that significant events/updates are still happening. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:33, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 1

Portal:Current events/2022 October 1

October 1, 2022 (2022-10-01) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russo-Ukrainian War 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Battle of Donbas Second Battle of Lyman Ukrainian troops recapture Lyman after weeks of fighting for the city and one day after the annexation of the Donetsk People's Republic to Russia. (The Guardian) The Ministry of Defence of Russia says that it has withdrawn troops from the town of Lyman due to "a threat of encirclement". (BBC News) After the defeat in Lyman, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, calls on the Russian government to introduce martial law and use low-yield nuclear weapons in Ukraine. (Moskovskij Komsomolets) (CNN) (Reuters) (Al Jazeera) War crimes in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine A civilian convoy of seven cars attacked by Russian forces is discovered in Kupiansk Raion in Kharkiv Oblast with 24 people being killed, including a pregnant woman and 13 children, according to local governor Oleh Synyehubov. (Ukrainska Pravda) Israeli–Palestinian conflict An 18-year-old man is killed by Israeli soldiers in East Jerusalem, making him the 100th Palestinian killed in the West Bank this year. It is the deadliest toll of Palestinians killed there by Israeli's raids since 2015. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents 2022 Atlantic hurricane season The death toll from Hurricane Ian increases to 84. (NBC News) Three people are killed and two others are injured after a helicopter crashes in Frontera, Tabasco, Mexico. (AP) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Canada, Travel during the COVID-19 pandemic Canada formally ends all COVID-19 border measures, including vaccination requirements, pre-arrival testing, and quarantine, allowing all travellers to enter the country unrestricted without needing to submit public health information through the ArriveCAN government mobile app. (Global News) International relations United States–Venezuela relations Venezuela releases seven Americans from its custody, including five Citgo executives, in exchange for two nephews of Venezuelan First Lady Cilia Flores who had previously been convicted of drug smuggling in the United States. (Politico) Togolese Gilbert Houngbo becomes the new Director-General of the International Labour Organization, succeeding British Guy Ryder. (North Africa Report) Law and crime 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium disaster At least 125 people are killed in a human crush following the dispersal of riotors by tear gas. The riot occurred between supporters of Indonesian football teams Arema F.C. and Persebaya Surabaya at the Kanjuruhan Stadium in Malang Regency, East Java, Indonesia. (Al Jazeera) Kurdish separatism in Iran, Iran–Iraq relations Protests break out in Baghdad against Iranian involvement in the country following a series of missile and artillery strikes by the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps that killed dozens of civilians in Iraqi Kurdistan. (Iran International) Politics and elections Mahsa Amini protests Protests enter a fifteenth day as large crowds and strikes are held at Iran's universities. (Iran International) Iranians around the world hold rallies in more than 160 cities in solidarity with protesters. (Euronews) 2022 Latvian parliamentary election Latvians head to the polls to elect members of the Saeima. (The Business Standard)

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(Posted) RD: Sylvia Wu

Article: Sylvia Wu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LA Times
Credits:

• Created and nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MelanieN (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death reported on this date. TJMSmith (talk) 18:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

• Long enough with 400+ words of prose. Formatting looks fine. Footnotes can be found at expected spots. Earwig has found nothing wrong. This wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 23:37, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted, just reviewed this for DYK and it looks fine - Dumelow (talk) 10:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jim Sweeney (American football, born 1962)

Article: Jim Sweeney (American football, born 1962) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [19]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Support, I've tidied up the referencing a bit, looks OK - Dumelow (talk) 06:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 00:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium stampede

Article: 2022 Kanjuruhan Stadium disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Malang, Indonesia, at least 182 people are killed in a stampede at a football match. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Malang, Indonesia, at least 182 people are killed in a stampede at an association football match.
News source(s): Reuters CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Created by SunDawn (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Juxlos (talk · give credit), Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit), Dhiosk (talk · give credit) and 125.167.57.167 (talk · give credit)

 – Muboshgu (talk) 01:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment second deadliest football-related incident in history (unless you count the Football War). Juxlos (talk) 01:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  Further comment requesting article protection. There has been a wave of editors with very poor grasps of English attempting to edit the article and move it around, generally with noticeable slant of POV. Juxlos (talk) 05:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  Support for request non-user/IP-only editors started changing death toll numbers without giving reliable news source or proper context. Dhio (talk?) 06:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC) (Update: vandalism incoming. Dhio (talk?) 07:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC))

  Requesting on WP:RPP  Done. —Angga (formerly Angga1061) 08:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Very unfortunate event. I'm speechless. MarioJump83 (talk) 01:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Dhio (talk?) 01:40, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment the death toll increased to 153, according to latest reports. Might be appropriate to consider modifying the blurb as "At least 153 people are killed in ......" and so on (emphasis to at least). Dhio (talk?) 02:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support Pretty serious accident with significant death toll. And to think, just over soccer... what a crazy world. So unnecessary. — That Coptic Guy (talk) 01:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Support worst football incident in asia ever, worst football incident since 1964, worst human stampede in several years. so sad. e.b. (talk) 01:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support Article is sufficiently expanded to cover the basics of the event. --Masem (t) 01:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Strong support Extremely deadly disaster and the article is in good shape. Mount Patagonia (talk) 02:09, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• support. clearly significant. article quality already exceeds the fuzhou standard. dying (talk) 02:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support This is a Must Post. Why are we waiting? HiLo48 (talk) 02:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support I'm from Indonesia, and this is a very serious and significant event. 153 dead, just because a football team lost, is a HUGE disaster. ᐱᔌᕬᐱɭᕮ ᐱᒧᐱᕬ (Talk) 03:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Wait The article is not ready to be put on the front page, there are too many grammatical errors. Mlb96 (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't see them. Example? HiLo48 (talk) 03:55, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Wait, but support if more update sufficient They stated that 130 people are killed now, no longer 129. Here's the source 125.167.57.167 (talk) 03:59, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  182 and climbing now. — That Coptic Guy (talk) 04:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Tagging as ready. If there are errors in the article, tag the article per se. Howard the Duck (talk) 04:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Even deadlier than Hillsborough. But is it really confirmed, the number 182? —Angga (formerly Angga1061) 05:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
  • The number is confirmed, according to this report in Indonesian (supposedly the first to write so; other news websites in Indonesian are following suit) and this report from WaPo (quoting an Arema FC tweet). Dhio (talk?) 05:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support This is the second deadliest football-related disaster ever in the world. That shows a true significance. Chongkian (talk) 07:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- added Altblurb; specifying association football. Maybe not necessary, but it can provide some clarification for those of us who read "football" and think gridiron football. Rest in peace to all the victims. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 07:44, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Posted I've posted the altblurb. Schwede66 08:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment is it worth linking the Super East Java Derby in the blurb somewhere as well? Maybe for the word "match"? Abcmaxx (talk) 08:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
• Post-posting support – Very widely covered. [20] [21] [22] – Sca (talk) 13:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

• Blurb edit request: seems that there are corrections on the death toll, so it's still around 125-131 according to officials like the Vice Governor and the Chief of the Nat'l Police. Both stated that miscalculations had/might've happened from double records for single individuals. So, instead of "at least 182 people..", "at least 125 people..." might be better. Dhio (talk?) 13:09, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

  Done. See the update at WP:ERRORS. - Fuzheado | Talk 14:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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