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List of Sony Exmor image sensors[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of Sony Exmor image sensors. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. jp×g 06:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

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  • A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

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Eastern South Slavic[edit]

Well, the map has been there for quite a while. It was just taken down by a North Macedonian nationalist. So what the change is is the removal of the map, not its placement there. I don't intend to revert it again, but I have made my points on the Talk page, and it appears that I am the only to have done that. If someone has something to add—perhaps you—why don't you do it? I do agree that some of the areas mark historical or scattered distribution. VMORO

I don't know who is right- maybe you are, I don't know- but it needs to be discussed on the talk page and not in edit summaries, as I've indicated, and use appropriate processes should discussion not work. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unblock my account[edit]

Hello I am contacting you as on 28 april 2023, you've told that I could be unblock if you could see at least one draft accepted into the encyclopedia by an Articles for Creation created by myself. I've already got approved one draft - Oleksandr Zub . Iliochori2 (talk) 12:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please make a new unblock request; I'm not presently in a position to review. 331dot (talk) 13:00, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help with a new page[edit]

Hi I saw you on Teahouse and you look like you know what you're doing. I'm trying to merge a couple articles into a single article. My explanation is here: Wikipedia:Teahouse#General help merging and creating. Can you help me out a bit? NomzEditingWikis (talk) 00:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can say that merging is not an area I have much knowledge about, but the advice you've been given so far seems right. 331dot (talk) 06:26, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article Submission Related to Company[edit]

Hi there, I hope everything is good with you. I submitted a draft named Giga Group of Companies that you recently reviewed. It actually a firm of one of my close friends and he wanted to publish its Wikipedia page because the company is one of the largest Real Estate Group in Asia as well as Middle East. It is a pioneer developer firm that started construction on Jumeirah Lake Dubai bake in the early 2000s. It has massively contributed in national economies of many countries worldwide. Currently, it has been working for UN mandate in Pakistan. I have added multiple references related to this company but i don't know why the submission was declined. Kindly if you can guide me on how can it be approved. And yes i haven't been paid for any of this I am professional writer and what i am doing is my hobby. Please if you can consider my request and guide me i will be working for wikipedia as an editor in future.

Thank you. Nightowl4u (talk) 08:26, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nightowl4u Your statement seems to be contradictory- you say you are a professional writer but doing this as your hobby. Do you mean that your occupation is a professional writer, but you are not doing this as part of your work? Even if you are not paid, you need to declare a conflict of interest on your user page(click the link for instructions). If you ever do decide to edit as part of your work, the Terms of Use require you to make the paid editing disclosure. Your first edit had correctly written wikicode, which is unusual for a new user. Did you do your research first?
Regarding the draft, it does not establish that the company meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. It mentions an award, but most awards do not contribute to notability unless the award itself is notable and merits an article(like Pulitzer Prize or Academy Award or Nobel Peace Prize). The rest of the draft merely tells of the establishment of the company. A Wikipedia article must summarize independent reliable sources that have significant coverage of the subject- sources unaffiliated with the company that choose on their own to go into detail about what they see as important/significant/influential about the company. Doing work for the UN might qualify, if sources discuss that and how the company's contribution is important to that effort. The current sources do not seem to establish notability; two of the sources are by the same freelance writer and seem to be fluff pieces about the company. One discusses a visit by the Chinese Ambassador to Pakistan, another shows the company marking the Pakistani Independence Day. These aren't significant coverage of the company that discusses the importance of it. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 09:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi there,
Dear whatever i told you is based on truth. The company as i said is owned by one of my friend. Its a reality that i havent been paid for this work, though, yes i am a professional writer but if my affiliation with the company counts it as a paid content i have no issues to declare it. I asked for your guidance on the issue as you are much senior then me. Kindly, let me know how can draft qualify for publication. Even if i mention about the efforts they are making for UN mandate i believe still the draft would not come up to the criteria. So, how can i make this draft strong enough to qualify? I have to help this guy as i know he is really doing a brilliant job in upgrading lifestyles for people and supporting economies of many countries. The company has initiated many clean and green initiatives as mentioned in the resources. If the Chinese Ambassador is paying visit to them it doent mean they are doing something big? Nightowl4u (talk) 11:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you are not paid or compensated in any manner(it doesn't have to be money or even anything tangible, it could be consideration for further work for your friend), you do not need to declare as a paid editor, but your association with your friend and their company requires you to declare a conflict of interest. Please click that link for instructions.
I don't have much advice for you beyond what I said above. If you have no further independent reliable sources with significant coverage to summarize, the company would not merit an article at this time, and no amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. It doesn't matter how well you write, if the company is not notable. 331dot (talk) 13:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The Chinese ambassador visiting the company doesn't mean too much by itself; if it represents something significant about the company, such as work to further Chinese-Pakistani relations, or some broader geopolitical influence, there needs to be sources to show that. 331dot (talk) 13:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request on 14:55:34, 17 May 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Chenbas31[edit]


As other Top of the Pops presenters have their own articles, can Steve Anderson have one? Or is there not enough information in the draft at the moment? Thanks Chenbas31 (talk) 14:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chenbas31 Each article is considered on its own merits irrespective of whether other topics in a category have articles, see this page. That said, this person may merit an article, but the sources you have do not demonstrate that. You need independent reliable sources with significant coverage of this person. The sources must also be formatted into references as footnotes, please see Referencing for Beginners. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unblock request by QuMaRo[edit]

I'm evaluating an unblock request by this editor, who was (quite correctly) blocked for advertising and UPE. The editor has now agreed to follow the COI rules and properly disclose their paid status. Given this, would you have any objection to unblocking them? Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:05, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seraphimblade I will admit to being a little skeptical but it could be worth a shot in this case, so I'm happy to go with your judgement here. Thanks. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 18 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Response request[edit]

Hello @331dot! If you are available, could you respond to @Nathanquib on their talk page. I don’t understand what they are asking, but they requested your response through VTRS. If you don’t want to, feel free to not respond, I don’t really know what the user wants. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:34, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi 331dot. You probably don't know who I am, but I thought it would be a shame if your WikiBirthday went by without anyone noticing. So, here I am. Happy WikiBirthday, and here's to another 11 years ;) Schminnte (talk contribs) 20:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thoughts on these two edits by an account with no other edits on an article recently scrutinized for COI contributions? I normally am not involved in COI scenarios, but this seems a bit suspicious. Matt Deres (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, the Emma account was created the day after the other account was warned and admitted it was his assisstant. 331dot (talk) 08:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now it could certainly be the permanent assistant the first account spoke to. But they still need to disclose everything. 331dot (talk) 08:07, 31 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Peter Boykin[edit]

I wasn’t aware I couldn’t edit my own Wiki, if you would I would like to add that back in my 20s I was a webcam model. So many people have talked about to thinking I’m trying to hide it, when I’m highly open about it. I would also like to mention I’m running grassroots. If you’d like to speak to me privately, I would be more than happy to give you a call. :) 2603:6081:5F41:697B:A5FE:253C:8DB1:5F5F (talk) 08:54, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As a matter of policy I do not discuss Wikipedia matters off-wiki. As I posted on your user talk page, you are welcome to make edit requests on the article talk page so that independent editors can evaluate your requests. I also suggest that, although it's not required, it would be easier to work with you if you create an account in your name and then verify your identity as WP:REALNAME instructs, so we know it's you and not just any person on your IP sitting on the other end of the computer. This also helps protect you against impersonation.
When you propose edits to add information, they will need to be sourced to a reliable source that can be verified. We unfortunately cannot just take your word. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Corey Feldman IP edit to Talk[edit]

Just an FYI, as I saw that you reverted the IP's most recent removal of the "musician" claim: They also left a comment on the Talk page that Ponyo (talk · contribs) had redacted for BLP concerns, but which they've now reinstated in a subsequent comment. It's not an urgent matter, but thought you should be aware in case you may be able to address it more readily. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 13:38, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit War[edit]

Why am I the only one getting a warning for an edit war that I didn't start? Blair009 (talk) 07:25, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blair009 I wasn't finished reviewing the matter. I've warned them too. It takes two to edit war. Only you can control your actions. If others are edit warring with you, there are proper processes to address that; edit warring yourself is not one of them. I warned you immediately due to your threat to continue to edit war; "So no, it's not "for the last time"". 331dot (talk) 07:29, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ghost Care categorization page help[edit]

Hey man, are you able to help me correct the categorizations for the Ghost Care page? I can't seem to get it right, it just says the "pages don't exist" for the categories I added. Thanks so much. Charlotte Beaucannon (talk) 09:33, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You had apostrophes around the category titles, I've removed them. 331dot (talk) 10:31, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Problem with my signature[edit]

Hi, I created a new signature 1Flamealpha2 TalkyTalk and when I try to upload this signature to my preferences half of it just disappears. Can you please provide some assistance in this matter? <span style="border:1px solid; background: linear-gradient(to bottom right, #4B0082, #800080); box-shadow: 0px 5px 15px rgba(0,0,0,0.3);">[[User:Flamealpha123|'''<span style="background: linear-gradient(to right, #FF1493, #FF69B4);-webkit-background-clip: (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm sorry, I know little about altering signatures. 331dot (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh ok sorry to bother you Flamealpha123 (talk) 18:35, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Flamealpha123 You have copied my sign design, Let me see you at your page. Thank you. ⭐️ Starkex ⭐️ 📧 ✍️ 19:30, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

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  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
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Block evasion[edit]

You blocked Fascistinfowars and they requested an unblock with a new username (Humanwaveattack666). But then they basically admitted creating the account Humanwaveattack666 without the block being reviewed.

Or am I wrong because it's a soft block, and they're allowed to make a new account with a new name? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:38, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, a soft block means they are permitted to create a new account. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion[edit]

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. The thread is "Exmor".

Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!

— AP 499D25 (talk) 11:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Redirect Mobian to Debian#Mobian, please[edit]

Mobian says, "This page is protected from creation, so only administrators can create it." Draft:Mobian has been copied to Debian#Mobian, per Draft_talk:Mobian. Thanks -- Yae4 (talk) 18:56, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, I think I've done it. 331dot (talk) 19:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Looks good. Thank you. -- Yae4 (talk) 19:40, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Seeing the WP:DRN section about the Exmor thing got me looking back at the talk page, and reflecting on my posts there, they seem somewhat ill-mannered. Please accept my apology. jp×g 09:34, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you very much. It probably wasn't too bad since I don't recall it at this moment, but thanks. 331dot (talk) 11:16, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

William Shatner[edit]

Hey dot, can you please block this IP Special:Diff/1159509029. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Kindling (2023 film) has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Kindling (2023 film). Thanks! Twinkle1990 (talk) 06:11, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page stalker) Twinkle1990, 331dot didn't write this draft, they merely tagged it. I believe you should be contacting Starklinson, the creator. Bishonen | tålk 07:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I too realized later. I shall leave the message at Bishonen's Talk page. Twinkle1990 (talk) 07:47, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello sir The Wikipedia user Capitals00 is continuously editing wrong information on pages especially releted to 'Hindu Monarchs' and releted to them by adding hate words and unsourced statements as he now doing on the page of Mughal - Maratha wars where he didn't provided any single source and blanked most of the page including Result of it.when i undid his revision by asking him sources then instead of providing sources he undid my revision and stored his edit without providing any single resource!This is somehow close to Dictatership as his edits are more than 5000 so now he misusing his powers by deleting others history perticularaly 'Hindu Community' for his relegious agenda. So kindly look at this and take immediate action on him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryan330 (talkcontribs) 09:39, 14 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I suggest that you stop edit warring and discuss your concerns with the other editor. 331dot (talk) 09:45, 14 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I haven't edited further so Edit warring is suitable for him because i just stored what previous edit was & he undid that so i didn't edited edits done by me is only one but edits edited by him counts 2 so he is edit warring without giving sources & i was joined Wikipedia because i thought this is the only place where Dictatership or power doesn't matter,what matter is full proof sources & he is continuously editing hateful and wrong statements against icons of perticular relegion 'Hindu' and i am surprised that i told you to take action against him by undid revision of his edit on 'Mughal-Maratha wars' and give him last warning as i have checked on his talk page that many senior Wikipedia users warned him for blanking pages(like he did in Mughal-Maratha War page)and making many wrong and unsourced edits releted to Hindu religion. So kindly take action — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryan330 (talkcontribs) 12:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Accusing someone of a religious agenda is a serious accusation that requires hard evidence. Removing edits related to a particular religion is not hard evidence. You need to stop asking any user you can find to intervene for you and work to resolve this dispute yourself. Use dispute resolution if need be; admins do not settle content disputes. 331dot (talk) 12:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@331dothello sir,as I had already asked for your help against @[[User:Capital00|capital00]] for his disruptive edits, blanking the pages, targeting specific community & Ragging as recently doing on the page of "Mughal-Maratha wars",but you didn't take any action.

So kindly dive in this wrong thing and take strict action against him.. Aryan330 (talk) 11:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you have further comment, please edit this section instead of creating a new section of this page. I have nothing to say beyond what I said above. If you find that unsatisfactory, please report what you see as an incident to WP:ANI, though be advised that your own conduct will be examined as well. Do not harass admins and others on their user talk pages to intercede for you. 331dot (talk) 11:13, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Outer Terror's Wikipedia Page[edit]

Hello there,

So I know I've sent this over a couple of times but I believe this is the correct page to post this on (thank you for working with me on that).

For VoxPop, the team seems to be pushing more towards a publisher than a service, so I thought these articles would justify the inclusion.

MSN Article about Loppy - Metacritic Page for Outer Terror - Game Informer article about Weaponeer -

Let me know if I need to explain any of these further and I appreciate you taking a look at these. HiDot94 (talk) 23:43, 15 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I assume that these are sources intended to support an article about VoxPop.
  1. is a product announcement, a routine activity that doesn't establish notability.
  2. any sort of summary/aggregation page is not acceptable as a source. Reviews from professional reviewers directly would be good for establishing the notability of a game, but probably not the company that publishes it.
  3. Most of the content related to VoxPop in this source is an interview with the founders of the company. That wouldn't go towards establishing notability. That might actually be okay in an article about the Weaponeer game.
This is just how I see it, feel free to get other opinions. 331dot (talk) 08:08, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey, thank you for the response!
So what type of article would establish notability for VoxPop then? Also why does an interview with devs not establish notability out of curiosity?
Thanks again! HiDot94 (talk) 17:31, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
An interview with the founders of a company is not an independent source, as the company founders cannot have a neutral point of view about their company. Interviews can be used for other purposes, but not to establish notability.
Establishing the notability of the company, and not just its products, requires significant coverage in independent reliable sources that choose on their own(and not based on materials from the company) to write about the company and describe what they see as important/significant/influential about the company, not what the company itself(or its staff) sees as significant about itself.
As I suggest, it is possible for a company's products to merit articles but not a company itself. 331dot (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks so much for the answer, as far as the Weaponeer game goes maybe I should make a page about that then.
Would these sources be enough?
Game Informer:
All Ages of Geek:
The CG View:
Into Indie Games: HiDot94 (talk) 16:42, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The last three sources here are interviews with company staff, so those will not work for establishing notability.
The lawod source is little more than an ad for the game, but the first source isn't too bad. If you had a couple more like that, that might be enough to support an article about the Weaponneer game. 331dot (talk) 17:00, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lucin, utah[edit]

I removed content that had no reference, was off-topic, and had obviously been added by an individual as a means if self-aggrandizent. The only thing I added was the fact that Lucon had been abandoned as of 1997, a fact that I can verify BECAUSE I DO LIVE IN THE LUCIN TOWNSHIP. Hereticalhermit (talk) 22:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hereticalhermit Unfortunately while I believe you, your personal account is unverifiable. Information must be in a published reliable source that can be verified. 331dot (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ok, how about a reliable source, such as county records? I will send you a gis record of who the owner is, being the southern pacific railroad, with NO homes on it! SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE THAT I AM WRONG! NEWSPAPER ACCOUNTS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE AS PROOF OF OWNERSHIP! Hereticalhermit (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
When you are ready to stop yelling at me, I'll be happy to discuss this with you. 331dot (talk) 22:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
again, show me the "reliable evidemce" that he bought the land, that he lives on it, or that the information I deleted had anything to do with the history of lucin. Show me the "reliable evidence" that there are "4 owner inhabitants", other than the railroad. You can't. Hereticalhermit (talk) 22:59, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
and yes, I even went to the pages referenced. This was an interview with the guy where he made the aims, NOT an investigative report or anything which has any legitimacy as "reliable reporting", in addition to the articles on his business, which have no place in an article about Lucin. Hereticalhermit (talk) 23:07, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"claims", not aims. Oops. Hereticalhermit (talk) 23:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This doesn't mean that the information should be completely removed, it can be reworded to emphasize that it was accurate when the source was written("as of X date, .....")
There could be an argument for removing the information about the defector but if you could write a less inflammatory edit summary, it would help. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
i was not trying to be inflammatory, only factual. nothing about his defection or company belongs in that article, and it may have been believed to be accurate by the reporter, but the reporter never actually investigated the facts. NONE of the guys claims are valid or ever were. The airport the article mentions is about 3 miles ne of Lucin, not part of the town at all, never was. Nobody lives in Lucin, and has not simce before I moved out here in 1997, although several people live in the outlying "sections" of Lucin township. Railroads never sell their prpperty. All I have stated are the facts, without trying to be inflammatory. Hereticalhermit (talk) 23:23, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As I said, I don't disbelieve your observation, but it isn't acceptable article content. Something that might work as a citation would be census figures for this area. I've dated one passage and removed the one about the defector. 331dot (talk) 23:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
and yet a totally fabricated article, one which has clear mistruths in it, such as the "4 owner resident" thing, since railroads never sell their property, is somehow acceptable and left as a reference? Or the article about his business, which should be referenced elsewhere, if at all? Hereticalhermit (talk) 23:47, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you saying that the provided source or sources do not say what is claimed, or that the sources say what is claimed but are inaccurate? 331dot (talk) 00:07, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
absolutely. The claims of the source are entirely bogus, based upon the words of the interviewee, but not upon any independent evidence that was researched by the interviewer. And I can provide many eyewitness acounts as to Lucin (a) having been abandoned by 1997, (b) that I have lived here since then, (c) that the railroad still owns the property, (d) that Ivo does not live "in" Lucin, etc. Hereticalhermit (talk) 00:21, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It isn't up to the interviewer to provide independent evidence. They were confident enough in their reporting to air it. The interviewee does not seem to me to making up his claims out of whole cloth. You are free to disbelieve him, just as any reader is.
Eyewitness accounts are useless unless they are in a published reliable source. As I said, your best bet is probably census figures, which, if no one is living there, would report a population of zero. 331dot (talk) 00:42, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actuly, the census does not even mention Lucin, because it is uninjabited and was so during the 2000 census. And an article that was published "in good faith" which spreads misinformation is still not a valid source for the claims in the article, especially after having just been shown that any if the claims were false. Any mention of Uvo in the Lucin article is based upon an article which spread false information, and which he apparently linked into wikipedia himself in order to sell his airplabe parts...that last part is my opinion, as I cannot prove that he is the one who posted the links or edited the lucin article. Because the claims in the lucin article are provably false, no mention of the articles or anything in them should even be listed under lucin. Now, if there were an article about lucin airport, those things would be appropriate there. Hereticalhermit (talk) 00:53, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I've been told i have the patience of a saint, but I think you have more. Best -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:26, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tendentious editing and non-communication[edit]

I would have put this on WP:ANI but thought I'll consult a recently active admin first. User talk:Anolacrabsss has been adding the same unsourced content repeatedly at Ahaana Krishna. The user has had multiple warnings on their user talk page (since a few years), but there has been no response. I also tried communicating at Talk:Ahaana Krishna#LA Fest. I'm involved in the reverts, so I didn't want to give further warnings, or make the block. Please advise. Jay 💬 13:07, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've blocked for 31h and reverted. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

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Skullgirls edit war[edit]

Hello @331dot:. This is in reference to new user Grew Baddymore and their edit war on the Skullgirls page. I'm reaching out to you since you recently posted on their talk page. The person did take things to the article's talk page, where I tried to detail my disagreements with their edits to the best of my ability, rooting my reasonings in guidelines and such. Their follow-up didn't make much sense, and I personally don't believe this person is acting in good faith anymore. But, who knows, maybe I'm in the wrong here. Would you be willing to lend your perspective on the matter? Thanks for your time. Wani (talk) 03:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looks like the user is globally locked now. 331dot (talk) 09:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, do you have any objection to my revoking TPA per WP:DENY? The user's post-block comments are increasingly outrageous. It is clear they are enjoying the attention, not to mention controlling the conversation in a passive-aggressive, WP:WIKILAWYER-type manner. I would have revoked TPA a while ago and not asked "permission", but am reluctant to do so because of your and Newyorkbrad's apparent willingness to continue this tortured dialogue. Fluid dynamics? Give me a break.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have no objection. 331dot (talk) 00:40, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't have a veto power here, but since you are asking my opinion, I am not persuaded we are at that point or even especially close to it. If he wants to enter mainspace and edit about fluid dynamics I would probably let him. If it's an elaborate troll as you seem to think, we would find out soon enough. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just to be clear, I am firmly opposed to unblocking them.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bbb23: Understood. There's no unblock request at the moment anyhow. If the user posts one, someone else can take a look at it and opine on it. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 04:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To both of you: any idea what the user means when they keep referring to "movement", e.g., "My skills in reading a consensus are movement wide" and "This is movement level stuff"? Appears that Snow Rise understands the term, but I don't. I'd ask directly but don't wish to comment anymore on the user's Talk page for the same reasons I believe TPA should be revoked.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bbb23: See Wikimedia movement. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My, that's pretty hokey. Thanks for the link.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah, they are basically just saying that they are familiar with process here because they have participated on other Wikimedia projects. Per my comments on their TP, that explanation really doesn't hold water for me, especially in light of their steadfastly refusing to provide any additional details or context, which would not even necessarily require disclosure of sensitive information. Every bit of their responses feels calculated to try to continuously refocus the conversation on our burden to give them the benefit of the doubt--presumably because they have no legitimate editorial history to point to, other than that of whatever since-blocked account(s) they have here, and any question they do answer carries with it potential to catch them out in a lie. Just every bit of their responses feels like a practiced effort at redirection, involving an entirely emotive appeal to fairplay that keeps them from having to make even the least bit of an actual explanation for their behaviour, in even the narrowest of respects. Can I ask what the behavioural factors are that make you suspect a BKFIP sock, or are you trying to be careful about where you disclose that for WP:BEANS reasons? SnowRise let's rap 04:49, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Probably better if that isn't explained on-wiki. As I said elsewhere, if you're confident in that identification then go ahead and pull TPA. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 07:01, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think the reason for the block evasion has become clear. On July 4 at 22:39, YD was globally locked as an LTA. Since that time, YD has of course been unable to log in and post to their Talk page, so they used an IP. I didn't notice the glock until a short while ago.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, that takes care of that one. 331dot (talk) 18:02, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In the official language of the country/subject matter that gave rise to this chain of events: quelle surprise. SnowRise let's rap 01:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi again. Could you please revoke talk page access for Annd112? They're still posting crap ([1], [2]) even after being blocked for socking. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:16, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:History News Service has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:History News Service. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 14:35, 7 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply][edit]

In March, you declined an unblock request for this address. Disruptive edits are coming from there again. Has the block expired? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, the block expired in April. 331dot (talk) 22:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unblocking decline[edit]

Why it is declined? Explain to me please. Oksimormon (talk) 18:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I explained it on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User: Orelie[edit]

Hiya - just out of interest, was wondering how you picked this one up. I'da thought a 3RR filter would have picked him up before the legal threat... Just curious! (And thanks!) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I saw a post on Materialscientist's page. 331dot (talk) 10:30, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gotcha - great, and thanks again! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Valjean edits[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 11:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I dont think you are really involved other than discussion on my talk page (in which I was just asking for admin advice about policy), just thought I would put this here as FYI as I did mention you over there. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 11:18, 23 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

your real name[edit]

My real name is (not) Sammy Hagar. Best. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:33, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion of article on author Devika Rangachari[edit]

Hello, I saw that you deleted the draft article I had started on. I am trying to slowly get started with creating Wikipedia content and realize that my skills are extremely low. Nevertheless, I have the ambition to improve my skills as I go along. In this particular case, since I have read the author's books and know that she is well-reputed, I thought I would create a Wiki article. Obviously I have failed, and I just wanted to check with you whether this means I can still restart my work on this topic, but in a more methodic and professional way, or is the topic banned forever from Wikipedia? Bear with me please, as I am trying to understand this rather forbidding and daunting world of Wikipedia. Osreismagos23 (talk) 08:12, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The topic is not banned, the draft you wrote was a copyright violation and deleted. You may write a draft that is not a copyright violation and written in your own words, summarizing what sources say about this individual and showing how she meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person.
Be advised that writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and diving right in as a new user is not advised and likely to lead to frustration and disappointment, as there is much to be aware of beforehand. We usually recommend that users first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial is a good idea as well. 331dot (talk) 08:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks a lot, really appreciate it. Will have to sit down properly and get my head around this. Osreismagos23 (talk) 08:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit history of users and probably NOTHERE[edit]

Both Artificial Nagger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Unwokengarvey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) are most likely trolls/NOTHERE (and SOAP in the case of Unwokengarvey) as their edit history shows. I've explained about the first on the RFC/user names page and the second is pretty obvious. The user is trying to inject a certain POV across a range of racism-related articles. Don't see any reason not to indef both personally, save the trouble of going to ANI... —DIYeditor (talk) 08:18, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Doug Weller, didn't notice you were the original blocking admin on Unwokengarvey. —DIYeditor (talk) 08:20, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

respectfully, how'd I take a 31 hour block for adding a link between 2 hate groups with the exact same logo? mea culpa on process, but the dudes reverting my changes are deleting the talk topics and catching violations of their own for doing it. How are topics supposed to get updated if woketopian activists are patrolling the edits? Unwokengarvey (talk) 21:50, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you want the appropriateness of the block reviewed, the proper forum is WP:AN. I would advise you against doing so, but you can if you wish. I have nothing else to say. 331dot (talk) 22:24, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Draft AOMEI Backupper[edit]

I noticed that you deleted my draft entry AOMEI Backupper. I wish to re-edit this article. not bad? Lmj565 (talk) 09:19, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lmj565 I would first ask you if you work for the AOMEI Technology Company or have some other association with this product. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes,I work for AOMEI Backupper.But I just introduct product.not Promote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmj565 (talkcontribs) 09:27, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lmj565 You must read the paid editing policy and make the paid editing disclosure; this is a Terms of Use requirement and mandatory. You should also read conflict of interest.
Wikipedia is not a place to "introduce" a product- a product must already be known and written about by independent reliable sources before it can merit an article on Wikipedia. Put another way, Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. Please review the definition of a notable product and Your First Article. It's challenging to write a new article even without a conflict of interest as you have, that only makes it harder. 331dot (talk) 09:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What should I do after I read it? Is there any way for me to re-edit the draft AOMEI Backupper — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmj565 (talkcontribs) 09:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My advice is that you not attempt to write about your company's products. If you have been asked to do so, please read WP:BOSS and have your superiors read it too. The best indicator of notability is when an independent editor takes note of a topic and chooses on their own to write about it, trying to force the issue doesn't usually work.
If you still wish to proceed even after reading everything I have suggested, you may create a new draft if you can limit yourself to summarizing what independent reliable sources say about this product and can show how it meets WP:NPRODUCT. Please read Your First Article.
As one of your next edits, you should make the paid editing disclosure. You can be blocked for failing to do so. 331dot (talk) 09:56, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Requesting this edit to be censored.[edit]

Hello 331dot and sorry to interrupt you.

The IP address user which made an irrelevant edit at the Teahouse earlier did something similar here. Can I request that edit to be censored? Thanks! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 09:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have done so. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! 🛧Layah50♪🛪 ( 話す? 一緒に飛ぼう!) 09:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Can you help me with the exact details that i need to provide, or can you give me some samples for notable references.

Thanks Senthilkindia (talk) 09:49, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Senthilkindia We don't need the whole url when linking to another page so I've fixed the header. Probably a summary of reviews of the vehicle by independent professional reviewers would do it. 331dot (talk) 10:49, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the response, there are lot of professional reviews available on YouTube, can I add that reference will that help? Senthilkindia (talk) 14:06, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
YouTube is not generally considered a reliable source(as anyone can post anything there), but it would be okay if it was, for example, a video of a professional review from a verified news outlet's YouTube channel. 331dot (talk) 14:17, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for your guidance, i have added relevant verified news about Montra Electric Super Auto. Senthilkindia (talk) 16:16, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Draft for your attention[edit]

You rejected Draft:Sazzad Hossain, but a possible sock reverted that and resubmitted. I re-reverted it. Wanna report it to ANI or something? Festucalextalk 19:46, 1 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Update: I've reported this to WP:SPI. Festucalextalk 19:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, yes, that was right for you to do. 331dot (talk) 20:13, 1 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Battle Of Vani[edit]

@331dot see Battle of Vani I have created this page but it wouldn't desolayed on Google yet. What's the matter? Aryan330 (talk) 12:02, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Aryan330 Not everyone uses the mobile version even on a phone/tablet(it's great for reading not so much for editing IMO), so when linking to an article simply place the title in double brackets like this- [[Joe Biden]] appears as Joe Biden.
Regarding your question, it takes time for Google to index new articles; they must either be marked as reviewed by a New Pages Patroller, or a certain amount of time must pass(I think it's 60 days but I'm not sure at this moment). 331dot (talk) 12:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@331dot Thanks.
will it be reviewed by patroller even after not creating draft first?just asking as I directly created it Aryan330 (talk) 12:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. New Pages Patrol is different from the drafting process. They look at the New Pages Feed and look at new articles as they are created. 331dot (talk) 12:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ok,thanks for your time.
Just last thing can you link that article with bracket for this time as I don't know how it can be.
So next time I can use it well. Aryan330 (talk) 12:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You would type it like [[Battle of Vani]] which would appear as Battle of Vani. This will work with most articles and pages(Narendra Modi, India, New York Yankees). 331dot (talk)

Got it, thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aryan330 (talkcontribs) 15:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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You may want to have another glance at user talk:RetireIT, as he has answered your questions, albeit not within the proper template. DS (talk) 03:37, 7 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've picked you out of thin air for this. ACmuisc (talk · contribs) has posted this [3] and the same on Talk:Adom (musician) which is actually linked to this Boston (band) ( I'm not sure why that talk page is linked?) Anyway, looks like they need advice. Thank you, Knitsey (talk) 16:10, 7 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

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didn't read the rest of the sentence on WP:User pages. But the edit summaries? Personal attacks? Doug Weller talk 11:59, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

They're not making it easy with their removals from the page. Probably they're close to losing access. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unconstructive edits on page Maratha Portugese war 1683-84[edit]

Hey @331dot the users @Zocdoclesson & user @Wareno both are continuously changing the content of page Maratha–Portuguese War (1683–1684). Although @Zocdoclesson atleast discussed on talk page of that article & accepted it. but @Wareno didn't discussed about this battle.he didn't talked with references. The earlier edit was as "status quo ante bellum" & this user connecting it with the victory of one side.

This user also warned me on my talk page by accusing me for being involved in edit war but I just did only 1 edit on that page in this month.he is just targeting me.hope you would give your personal attention here. Thank you Aryan330 (talk) 16:19, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The user @Aryan330 has been engaging in arbitrary and disruptive editing as already detailed here. He also likes to deem edits he doesn't agree with as "unconstructive". Hope this will clarify things. Wareno (talk) 16:27, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are more than 4 sources in article itself stating that it was "status quo ante bellum" & could not be anyones victory.while this user provided only one source.
This user made more than 3 edits in last 48 hours and accusing me for causing edit war while I only did one edit in last month Aryan330 (talk) 16:32, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This user removes other users content but keeps their sources and moves them to support his changes. I kept both pieces of information, this user insists on keeping only his content. Wareno (talk) 16:36, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I have protected the article to stop the disruption; I'm not presently able to sort this out to be more specific than that. Very interesting the disruption on an article about a 340 year old conflict. Aryan330, you need to work with others here. 331dot (talk) 16:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @331dot This user also warned me on my talk page by accusing me for being involved in edit war but I just did only 1 edit on that page in this this a way to working?
    By the way thanks for reply. Aryan330 (talk) 16:48, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Per WP:RNEUTRAL, redirects do not have to have neutral names, and can be offensive, and such the CSD does not apply. Qwerfjkltalk 21:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

While I don't see it in the letter of the policy, I don't think a redirect can be a BLP violation. Also see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 14#Biden Crime Family. 331dot (talk) 22:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! Sorry for the trouble I have caused. I never wanted these drafts to be submitted for AfC. What should I do? Dev Darshan T. K. (talk) 07:27, 22 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have responded on your user talk page, please post further replies there. 331dot (talk) 10:05, 22 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

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Behavior at an AFD[edit]

Can you take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuck the War EP and see if there's some admin action that may need to be taken? Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 10:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've issued a warning to the the user that was the source of the attacks, though I'm not able at present to take a deeper dive into it. Maybe later. 331dot (talk) 12:52, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AfC notification: User:Connor TheWriteGuy Newkirk/sandbox has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Connor TheWriteGuy Newkirk/sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 13:15, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You may want to disable their talkpage access. Thanks. (talk) 18:00, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Ow, is that "Best known for IP"? Good to know. I will have no mercy with him/her/it from now on. Thank you. The Banner talk 10:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think it is, yes. 331dot (talk) 10:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi 331dot - in April you blocked Charlotte gurney for making legal threats following edits to Henry Smith (British politician). Would you be able to look at Political supporter 1, who has made similar edits to the same article to do with the subject's marriage - possibly a sock puppet / block evasion? Let me know if you would prefer if I made a report to WP:SPI. Thanks for your help. Tacyarg (talk) 18:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No idea where to go[edit]

Where do I go to get a very rude edit summary removed? The Banner talk 18:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can do that. 331dot (talk) 18:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That would be nice. It is this edit that needs cleaning up. The Banner talk 19:08, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done. 331dot (talk) 19:10, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the swift action. Much appreciated. The Banner talk 19:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi 331dot ~ you certainly don't know me and though i recognise your name i don't think i've ever interacted with you previously. May i just say that I would agree that I've dug a hole that I didn't intend to dig and I probably should just get on with other business and not say any more is probably one of the best, lightest-hearted, and most appealing admissions of mis-step that i have seen in many years here. Thank you and well done. Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 18:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lisa Nowak[edit]

She was an astronaut, someone highly trained and (supposedly) vetted mentally, who shouldn't be doing this sort of thing. Alas, your supposition is incorrect. Psychological vetting was completely inadequate. See Santy, Patricia A. (1994). Choosing the Right Stuff: The Psychological Selection of Astronauts and Cosmonauts. Human Evolution, Behaviour and Intelligence. Westport, Connecticut: Praeger. ISBN 0-275-94236-8.. The irony is that if Nowak had the sort of mental health care given to her counterpart in the movie the whole thing would never have happened. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:51, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reliable sources[edit]

Please don't do this. [4] WP:RSP is not an exhaustive list of reliable sources, and it is thoroughly misleading to suggest that it is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:52, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The user didn't ask for an exhaustive list, they asked for an example list, which is exactly what that is. The list itself does not claim to be exhaustive, nor did I say it was. 331dot (talk) 16:06, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, but I still don't think that the link was helpful in that context. WP:RSP is (or is supposed to be) a list of sources where reliability has repeatedly been questioned. Some are listed as 'generally reliable' certainly, after discussion. The fact that such discussion has proven necessary surely makes them a poor choice for examples? A simple link to WP:RS is much better in the context of a help desk question like that - more so since WP:RS explains in detail how context matters etc. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:28, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The first sentence of that page is "The following presents a non-exhaustive list of sources whose reliability and use on Wikipedia are frequently discussed." The user asked "give me an example (list) of sources that you think are reliable and can be trusted." WP:RSP describes the community views on the sources listed. I figured they would look at it and get an idea of what was considered acceptable and what was not. Perhaps I could have linked to WP:RS so they could learn what is looked for- and thanks for doing that- but respectfully I don't think what I did was unreasonable. 331dot (talk) 16:35, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please could you take a look at[edit]

Please could you take a look at User talk:Daniellenavy. The article page they are talking about is Danielle Bux. It seems likely that the editor previously edited that page as an IP editor. As for the allegation that I have been editing that article for years, this is a list of my contributions.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay. 331dot (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I took a look. I see nothing wrong with your edits, Toddy1. I replied to the user, nudging them to learn our policies that their edits have been disregarding. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]