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April 3[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 3, 2023.

College Heights Historic District (Durham, North Carolina)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 11#College Heights Historic District (Durham, North Carolina)

Doubled "and" redirects[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:26, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects with doubled "and". Both {{R from move}}s. First one stayed as the title for ~2 months, the second one for ~a month. Implausible search terms, not sure whether WP:RFD#K4 applies here, though. Randi Moth TalkContribs 21:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete both. With 0 page views in past 30 days for both and no mainspace incoming links, I think since they're not useful search terms, common misspellings, etc they're suitable for deletion. Skynxnex (talk) 22:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Neither of these are useful search terms when "and" is included twice. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:50, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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KWBD[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The WB 100+ Station Group. Jay 💬 06:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This callsign isn’t mentioned at the target article at all, that’s why I think this redirect should be deleted. From Bassie f (his talk page) 08:41, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak delete - looking back through the article history, KWBD was a callsign for a cable-only WB affiliate run by KDLH starting in 1995. When the WB and UPN merged to form The CW and went digital-only, KWBD became a sidechannel, KDLH-DT2. This was described in the article when the redirect was created, but was unceremoniously removed entirely in 2009. I say weak delete because the entire section was unsourced and I don't support restoring it, and also because KWBD is evidently also the name of a fictional station in a fantasy television organization (league?), the existence of which is my TIL for today, and good indication I need to get off the internet and go outside for a while. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:15, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nominator comment, I think, we should re-add the information with reliable sources.
    From Bassie f (his talk page) 09:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to The WB 100+ Station Group as an {{R to list entry}} — KWBD is mentioned there (most, but not all, cable-only WB affiliates were part of The WB 100+ Station Group; this one was). WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 16:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Multiple suggestions and still no consensus…
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Amar Bail[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 17#Amar Bail

List of Pokémon in Pokémon Gold[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Pokémon. Jay 💬 06:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect titles are inaccurate. The second generation of games (Gold, Silver, & Crystal) introduced 100 new Pokémon but the games also contained the original first generation Pokémon as well. The target only contains a list of the 100 new Pokémon. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep: The Nominator is technically right but I’ve gotta cite WP:CHEAP here. Yes, the target only mentions the new Pokémon added in generation 2 but someone could type this into the search bar trying to look for the new Pokémon added in generation 2. I should also mention that the target’s title is also incorrect. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment:I still see these redirects as an issue due to the inaccuracy of the titles. I think, if someone were to search these terms, they would be expecting to find an entire list and not just the new Pokemon introduced in these games. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Would a retarget to List of Pokémon work? * Pppery * it has begun... 01:36, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would make more sense. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Retarget to List of Pokémon since Gold/ Silver has pokemon from both Gen I and Gen II. Both generations are covered in this List. --Lenticel (talk) 10:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Arthur Fleck Wayne[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 11#Arthur Fleck Wayne

ESPN+ 44[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 17:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There have been 79 UFC on ESPN+ events, but this is the only one with the redirect in this format. It seems to be largely unused as it is a partial title match to the end of the title. I can't find much that refers to this event as just "ESPN+ 44" instead of UFC on ESPN+ 44. TartarTorte 16:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as partial title match --Lenticel (talk) 00:56, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentESPN+ 44" is the same as "UFC on ESPN+ 44" which is redirect to UFC Fight Night: Rozenstruik vs. Gane. Since there is a "UFC on ESPN+ 44" redirected to the actual event name, I am indifferent if the page should be redirected or deleted. Cassiopeia talk 06:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Dissenting catholic[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 17#Dissenting catholic

Bos redirects[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. To request the creation of redirects, please go to WP:AFC/R. (non-admin closure) Hey man im josh (talk) 16:17, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because the taxon Bison has been reclassified as a subgenus of Bos and IP editors can't create pages, I propose the creation of the above redirects. --89.206.112.14 (talk) 15:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The School Up North[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 13#The School Up North

Bade Miyan Chote Miyan 2 (film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is an unannounced film. No need of any redirect. Tousif ❯❯❯ Talk 11:41, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom, WP:REDLINK, and the fact that it makes absolutely no sense to redirect a title from a media project to one of potentially multiple notable subjects which are or may be attached to the project. Steel1943 (talk) 20:48, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Also, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 30#Bade Miyan Chote Miyan 2. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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R.S.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Someone reportedly targeted it to Renault Sport but it got suddenly reverted and after, the page was protected suddenly. Actually Jokestress created that redirect but that edit was back in 2012. 88.237.24.115 (talk) 10:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment What is your proposal for this redirect? The current state, a redirect to the RS disambiguation page,seems fine to me. Skynxnex (talk) 13:34, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep per below given no response nominator. Skynxnex (talk) 14:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The current target is appropriate and makes sense. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not seeing a reason to change. I highly doubt the car is the primary topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep clearly not Renault Sport -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 02:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Sunrisers squad[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sunrisers is an ambiguous term, as there are 4 cricket teams with that name, and the most well known of them is Sunrisers Hyderabad not the English women's team Sunrisers (women's cricket). As such, the links to this redirect should be fixed, and this redirected deleted as it's ambiguous and not helpful. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:23, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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War pigs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Move War pigs (disambiguation) to War pigs. Jay 💬 08:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This currently goes to war pig, which is about the general concept of a pig used in combat. I was expecting it to take me to War Pigs (a famous song by Black Sabbath) when typing this into the search bar. I'm unsure if this should be a retarget to the song or if we should create a dab, but I think that the current status of pointing at war pig is not optimal. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 21:25, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ephebo[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 10#Ephebo

JMI[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 17#JMI

Municipalite of repe Orny[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 05:15, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to determine why this old redirect exists. I can't find a "repe Orny", and the article about the municipality Orny, Switzerland doesn't help. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move the redirect to Municipality of Orny without leaving a redirect. 176.88.80.110 (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Municipality of Orny without leaving a redirect- as far as I can tell, this redirect is nonsensical and only very occasionally used (only 52 times in the past eight years). Edward-Woodrow (talk) 13:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom (a Google search finds absolutely nothing for me either). Per WP:MOVEREDIRECT, we generally don't move redirects, and this redirect has no history to it so it's not worth an exception. (Mostly unrelated comment: "municipalite" is not English – I think it's French, but without the acute accent. I initially thought this would also qualify for WP:RLOTE, but two entries on Orny, namely Orny, Switzerland and Orny, France, are both French-speaking places.) Duckmather (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Rules of the Senate[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 13#Rules of the Senate

Centiday[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Decimal time. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Word is not currently mentioned at target. Used in context of Chinese timekeeping at Metric time, and more generally at Decimal time (whither I just redirected the newly-created Deciday). 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • When you have a concern about an article not mentioning a redirect, have you ever considered actually editing the target article to add a mention of it? "Not mentioned in the current version of the article" is not an accepted reason for deleting redirects. Also, this redirect was created in 2006. That's 17 (seventeen) years ago. WP:RFD#HARMFUL says:

The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

  • a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
  • if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Deleting this would not be consistent with RFD's injunction to "consider the deletion only...of recent ones" (emphasis added). Editors might disagree over whether a redirect that is two years old counts as "recent", but nobody thinks a redirect that actually predates the birth of some of our editors is "recent". WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to decimal time. This is not a concept exclusive to Chinese timekeeping, and I have doubts that the term centiday is even used in this context; the article metric time claims that the Chinese unit kè is called centiday in a sentence that has had a {{citation needed}} tag for years. In any case, decimal time has a section about China with a link to the current target, and a section about France where centidays are actually discussed. V27t (talk) 19:41, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 21:30, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed that text. I found wikipedia mirrors saying the same thing, or websites that may have picked up from wikipedia, blogs. crowd-sourced info (see Why don't we have metric time?), etc. It is possible the source of the text was a reliable source, I just could not find it. Jay 💬 18:53, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The text was added back with a reference from the journal Units of Time in Ancient China and Japan. I have now removed mention of centiday for both the Chinese and French contexts. Jay 💬 05:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Decimal time is currently the only article to mention centidays.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 06:09, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Manipuri: The Bishnupriyas and Meiteis of Manipur[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 17#Manipuri: The Bishnupriyas and Meiteis of Manipur

The El (disambiguation)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 18#The El (disambiguation)

Global Series[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 17#Global Series

Baal-zebub In Rabbinical Literature[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The capital letters make this redirect unhelpful. Therefore, I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Corrected to Baal-zebub in rabbinical literature per Eureka. Jay 💬 16:21, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Delete or fix the capitalization?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 05:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a valid search term. This current capitalization needs to be fixed, but does not necessitate a page move. It is better to delete this redirect and create a new redirect at Baal-zebub in rabbinical literature per Steel1943. Carpimaps (talk) 06:04, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move per above, or do nothing. I don't see how WP:MOVEREDIRECT is relevant here, as the explanation there assumes that the move will not use suppressredirect. However, the proposal here is for the move not to leave a redirect behind. This achieves the same result as deletion (a redirect will no longer exist at the old title) whilst also preserving the history of that redirect (which has existed since 2007, so maybe not worth throwing away without good reason). On the other hand, keeping things as is wouldn't be so bad either: the redirect's only fault is that it has title case where our manual of style would nave preferred sentence case instead. – Uanfala (talk) 15:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for lack of a convincing argument to do anything else; as a general rule alternate capitalizations make sense as redirects. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I don't see any harm that necessitates deletion, though establishing the sentence-case version is still a good idea. --BDD (talk) 21:41, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Redirects are cheap, and some people type in title case when doing searches (erroneously thinking that is the standard). Plausible search term. Fieari (talk) 00:29, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:11, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. Not a fan of moving redirects. J947 † edits 02:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Unmentioned artifacts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget all to Book of Artifacts except keep Crown of Horns (Dungeons and Dragons) as is. ✗plicit 04:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No longer mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget Many of those are mentioned at Book of Artifacts. If this is the best new target, and what is the case with the others needs a bit of searching. Daranios (talk) 15:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Keep Crown of Horns as restored based on confirmation in secondary source. I've checked that all others appear at Book of Artifacts. Daranios (talk) 10:57, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget these to Book of Artifacts as mentioned above. Keep "Crown of Horns" as it was added back to the article. BOZ (talk) 16:30, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Maghiana District[edit]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 04:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target. While Maghiana is part of the city of Jhang in the district, I don't see any indication that the district is known by this name. signed, Rosguill talk 01:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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