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The Signpost: 2 March 2024[edit]

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March music[edit]

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in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this - and of Vami --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... and the premiere of Nabucco --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Next day, around Porto da Cruz, on Bach's birthday. You may remember that I suggested to give him an infobox in 2013. That one still listed some "prominent" pieces. Later we found the better solution: link to the complete list of compositions, - it's more neutral, avoiding editorial preferences. - On that background: what do you think of Vivaldi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration - did you think about Vivaldi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April music[edit]

I understand that you are busy, and Vivaldi can wait a bit longer, but we have the same situation now at Aaron Copland, with his Appalachian Spring going to by TFA in three days. The question is easy: does a list of compositions belong in the composer's infobox? I think yes (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven), and was reverted twice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My answer to the question is "whatever a consensus of editors decide is appropriate". This, even more than whether or not to have an infobox, is a content issue. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
You didn't look. They have an infobox, - that's not the question. The question is: does the list of compositions belong in the composer's infobox, and I rub my eyes how that can even be a question. What else could be more worthwhile to show? - As I write this I have two supporters against the lone reverts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understood the issue. This, even more than whether or not to have an infobox, is a content issue. where "this" means compositions in the infobox. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I really didn't know understand what "this" meant. Sorry, more sorry, but I don't agree even after understanding. See Vivaldi: it wasn't painted as "lets discuss if we have the works or not" but as "the link violates a guideline" (questioning at the same time all compromise versions, Bach etc.). A longish discussion resulted in "no, they don't". And now? My little brain has no room for any good reason not to point at a composer's works, sorry sorry, and a simple "ce" or "trim" for an edit summary doesn't enlighten me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I go to bed knowing that I have three supporters against the lone reverts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I woke up to see that she offered a new idea! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear that. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today I see Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein. - With the ballet, 10k+ readers saw the composer's and didn't complain ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Marian Anderson - finally a musician you're posting about who I'm very familiar with. She was an amazing women and an incredibly talented performer. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! I saw the news item last year when it was posted on Easter Sunday - as had been in 1939 - but then was too busy to listen to the whole broadcast. I did today, and was quite impressed, especially by the last two spirituals which sound as if sung by different women. - I brought Jessye Norman to GA, a singer where an infobox was never a problem. The short question & answer for Anderson from 2020 is refreshing (still on the talk). Why a few other cases are so problematic I'll never understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
followed by two birthdays in a row, and I prefer those (see my talk) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your suggestion about noticeboards[edit]

Hi!

I just saw that in the Venezuela discussion you proposed GS applying arbcom-like restrictions to noticeboards. Mind elaborating further on what your idea is and why it would improve things?

Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RadioactiveBoulevardier I wonder if the community would want to pass a general sanction to allow uninvolved administrators to impose word limits on involved parties at notice boards and, as a separate but complementary idea, to require involved parties to participate in certain sections. I genuinely don't know - there's a good chance the answer is no - but it's possible there's support for something like that. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rules[edit]

Regarding this comment: perhaps you might be willing to provide a bigger hint on what rule you feel is being ignored? I understand of course if it involves a private discussion or if you just don't want to go into further detail. isaacl (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. I have edited my comment. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the edit and subsequent comment. isaacl (talk) 00:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 25 April 2024[edit]

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The thing is growing faster than I can keep up with[edit]

... check your email before your inbox explodes. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SandyGeorgia sorry was in a rush so didn't reply but all have been sent. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's kind of a mess; should I resummarize it all in retrospect, or is it understandable as is? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I re-summarized it to one email. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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