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The result was no consensus. Not seeing strong arguments for keeping or deleting based on notability grounds and it seems like further discussion will not happen. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 01:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Balut (game)
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Seems like this game exists, but unsure if it has notability. Needs additional references, perhaps in Danish? Natg 19 (talk) 00:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
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- keep I guess? Sources seem to show it's a significant game. Sources are a bit odd (one comes from what seems like a country club hosted on a weird host for such a thing) but seem legit. It looks like Yahtzee, but it has an interesting history and appears to have a serious following in Singapore among other places. As games go, I give it a 2/10, but that's not the measure here. Hobit (talk) 21:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's definitely documented, and there might well be enough independent sourcing for a biography of Eddie Woolbright, which I have left dangling, too. The original Danish content is somewhat misleading. Look to the Philippines.
- Oaminal, Clarence Paul (2015-07-08). "Woolbright Drive, Beverly Hills, Cebu City". The Freeman.
- Uncle G (talk) 08:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, partly because it seems well-enough sourced, but more because the Eddie Woolbright article would be an orphan without it until someone starts an article on Beverly Hills Cebu or Annie Corrales. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:55, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist.
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The result was keep. Sandstein 07:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Veena Sood
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WP:BLP of an actress, not reliably sourcing any strong claim to passing WP:NACTOR. This was deleted by PROD in 2018 for lacking WP:GNG-worthy sources and then recreated in 2020, but the sources present now aren't an improvement: out of six footnotes, three are IMDb-style film directories that aren't support for notability at all, two are podcasts and the only one that actually comes from a real media outlet just briefly namechecks her existence in an article about her cousin Ashwin's divorce from Sarah McLachlan, and thus isn't about Veena for the purposes of establishing Veena's notability. As always, actors are not automatically entitled to have articles just because it's possible to verify that they exist -- the notability test requires evidence of third-party media coverage about her to establish the significance of her performances, not just film directories and interviews where she's talking about herself in the first person on podcasts. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - she is an award winning[1] (UBCP/ACTRA’s Sam Payne Award in 2014, the Lorena Gale Woman of Distinction Award in 2017, a 2018 Leo Award nomination for Best Performance in a Music, Comedy, or Variety Program or Series, and a 2019 recipient of The North Shore Fund Award and The Sam Payne Award for her accomplishments as an actress, and contributions to the creative community) and internationally recognized actress, who was given 131 credits for her TV show appearances in about 20 years and appeared in 27 movies. She was named among 100 most influential people in BC. [2]. Everytime she is mentioned in a piece of new she is referred as an award winning actress. [3]. I think the sum of all of the above easily let her pass WP:ANYBIO in my books. Kolma8 (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Not every award that exists is always an automatic "notable because award-winning" freebie. In order to be an award that makes its winners notable for winning it, that award has to be a top-level award that gets broad media coverage — Oscar, Emmy, BAFTA, Canadian Screen Award, that sort of thing — and ANYBIO does not just indiscriminately keep everybody who's ever won just any award that exists. All of the awards you named in your rationale would be perfectly fine to mention in an article that was well-sourced, but exactly zero of them are "inherently" notable enough to exempt Veena Sood from having to pass WP:GNG on her sourceability just because the body text has the word "award" in it.
- And when it comes to "notable because she's had roles", even that still requires reliable source coverage about her and her performances, and is not automatically passed just because any particular number of roles can be listed. Bearcat (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep- Seems to be a notable actress but sources may not be reliable , add more related sources. Georgeart01 (talk) 23:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- The new sources you've added haven't changed anything. We're not just looking for sources that glancingly verify the fact that she's had roles, by briefly mentioning her name in a film's cast list but failing to contain any substantive content about her performance — we're looking for sources that single her out for special attention that goes well above and beyond just having her name mentioned in them: news articles about her, film reviews that zero in on her performance being a standout part of the film, and on and so forth. Bearcat (talk) 21:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - seems to me like a borderline case for meeting GNG, but just on the right side. Some sources I found:
- Calgary's own comedy: 40 years of hilarity with Loose Moose; Newspaper; August 18, 2017 | StarMetro Calgary (Alberta, Canada); Author: Aaron Chatha. (Article is about Loose Moose - includes some paragraphs about Sood.)
- Performing Asian Canadian in Vancouver; Yhap, Beverly.Canadian Theatre Review Iss. 85, (Winter 1995): 5-8. (Sood was one of four people interviewed for the article, again some paragraphs specifically relating to her.)
- FEELING MINNEAPOLIS - CANDIDATE CO-STAR HAS PRINCELY TIE; July 26, 2004; Calgary Sun, The (Alberta, Canada); Author: LOUIS B. HOBSON, CALGARY SUN. (Around 350 words specifically about Sood)
- There are also some brief commentaries on her performances in periodicals like The Village Voice and Variety, which wouldn't be enough to meet GNG on their own.
- Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:08, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 18:01, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Isaac Saul
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Non-notable or not-yet-notable journalist. After discussions with the page’s creator, who has done extensive research, we were unable to identify significant coverage in secondary RS beyond a single source (Yahoo). This may be a case of WP:TOOSOON; for now the entry relies almost entirely on primary sources and does not meet wiki notability threshold. Innisfree987 (talk) 13:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete there is not enough coverage actually about Saul to justify having an article on him.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Johnpacklambert: since I'm still not a very experienced editor, and this was my first major article, do you mind explaining why this is? I thought that in particular three of the sources that I included justified this for publication:
- https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/voter-fraud-debunking-journalist-isaac-saul-talks-about-his-viral-election-thread-and-why-the-conspiracy-theories-put-poll-workers-in-danger/ar-BB1bewmv
- https://www.yahoo.com/news/16-people-who-shaped-the-2016-election-isaac-saul-175336283.html
- https://www.forbes.com/next1000/
- And then, there are the sources for his career in Ultimate on top of that. Do you mind explaining why you don't think it's ready? Kokopelli7309 (talk) 02:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Establishing notability for journalists is fundamentally difficult because news organizations don't want them to be the story. It looks like we have two qualifying sources ([4] (this WP:INTERVIEW has a substantial introduction), [5]). ~Kvng (talk) 13:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Typically the notability requirement is for secondary sources tho no? (I’m speaking just of what I understand consensus to be—and actually that’s what that essay says—but I guess I’d have to think over what I think the ideal policy would be on primary sources of this type.) Innisfree987 (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Innisfree987, Per WP:INTERVIEW:
commentary added to interviews by a publication can sometimes count as secondary-source material
~Kvng (talk) 01:57, 17 April 2021 (UTC)- My apologies, I thought you meant the interview itself was a substantial introduction (to Saul). I take it you were talking about what prefaces it. Agree for sure about regarding that as secondary but have to disagree that it’s substantial—it’s just a few sentences. Innisfree987 (talk) 02:15, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Innisfree987, Per WP:INTERVIEW:
- Typically the notability requirement is for secondary sources tho no? (I’m speaking just of what I understand consensus to be—and actually that’s what that essay says—but I guess I’d have to think over what I think the ideal policy would be on primary sources of this type.) Innisfree987 (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see any evidence that he's notable (yet, perhaps?) The Yahoo piece is pretty minor and afaict, has no byline and the interview isn't enough to satisfy independence of the source, nor coverage of him. TAXIDICAE💰 18:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I did want to add that I found a new source covering the election fraud Twitter thread that does not include an interview: https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/us-elections-2020-journalists-mega-thread-debunking-trump-campaigns-fraud-claim-is-viral-read-here. Also, here's another interview that I found (I know that these aren't considered high-quality sources on their own, but there are a lot of him, and every one of them includes a blurb before the interview itself): https://braverangels.org/tangle-reimagining-political-news-isaac-saul-with-ciaran-oconnortangle-reimagining-political-news-isaac-saul-with-ciaran-oconnor/. Does this help at all? Also, isn't the Forbes source stronger than the Yahoo one anyway? Thank you! Kokopelli7309 (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete I don't see enough secondary coverage independent from him either in this AfD or in the article to sustain an article on WP:GNG grounds, for instance the sources include his writings for Huffpost, personal interviews, and a Forbes piece (which doesn't contribute to notability due to the consensus on Forbes and self-publication.) SportingFlyer T·C 20:50, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Still looks borderline after 2 relists, hoping for more people to take a look.
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- Kokopelli7309, I see no one has replied about those additional sources, so my two cents: despite the header, the Free Press source is really about Trump and only has a passing mention of Saul. Prose before interviews can be helpful as Kvng was saying, but for AfD purposes we’re looking for material that’s gone through an editorial process, fact-checking, etc. and to me it’s not clear the podcast blurbs fit the bill. So for me these don’t change much, as far as giving us more to go on that’s not Saul’s own writing/commentary, but I appreciate your looking for more sources! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:05, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Eddie Kuligowski
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Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 13:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Notable fotographer, meeting GNG. 1, 2, 3. Described as “was one of the most astonishing photographers of the 70s and 80s. He had been one of the four photographers with Bernard Descamps, Bernard Plossu and Bruno Requillart to be exhibited by Jean-Claude Lemagny at the Bibliotheque Nationale in 1975. The following year, he won the Niepce Prize.” SportsOlympic (talk) 13:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - Eddie Kuligowski was a well-known mid-century photographer. The French Wikipedia says he’s in these four collections (which would be an easy WP:NARTIST pass): Bibliothèque nationale de France; Musée Nicéphore-Niépce; Musée Réattu; Musée Cantini. I found that he has numerous photos in the collection of the Biblioteque Nationale de France: [6]
But the three museums either don’t have a searchable database for their collections or couldn’t be verified.However, I did find that his work is in the Centre Pompidou:[7] There are at least three monographs on his work. All of the above combined with the Prix Niépce, I’d have to say he’s notable. There are a lot of hits on Google Books, for example Claude Nori’s 1979 book, “French Photography, from Its Origins to the Present”; a few things on Newspapers.com; and a journal article in the March 1978 edition of French Review on JSTOR stating that he was one of a small group of photographers who represented France as a cultural ambassador to the U.S. So also meets WP:GNG The article should be retained and improved but not deleted from the encyclopedia. Netherzone (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC) - All five collections (4 of which are museum collections) now have citations. Netherzone (talk) 16:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Easily meets WP:NARTIST.--- Possibly (talk) 16:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Meets WP:NARTIST with collections in Bibliothèque nationale de France; Musée Nicéphore-Niépce; Musée Réattu; Musée Cantini. Ut sic, Keep. --Whiteguru (talk) 11:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Here, the keeping arguments have not properly addressed the deletion arguments fully, so comparatively the deletion arguments weigh more. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 11:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Draw My Life
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Does not warrant its own article per WP:GNG. None of the sources discuss the subject in question directly. Not enough significant coverage by reliable secondary sources. Relies mostly on primary sources. Throast (talk) 13:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Seems to have a lot of coverage. The BBC:
- Draw My Life: Lindsey Russell | Blue Peter presenter - CBBC - BBC www.bbc.co.uk › cbbc › watch › bp-draw-my-life-lindsey It's Lindsey's turn to take a stroll down memory lane in her very own Draw My Life. See her life unfold in this unique animation that captures her amazingly!
- Draw my life | Blue Peter presenter | Richie Driss - CBBC - BBC www.bbc.co.uk › cbbc › watch › bp-richie-draw-my-life Richie gets his very own Draw My Life where you can find put about all the amazing things he's done! From his adorable pet cow Lucky, to his adventures across ...
- https://www.hollywoodinsider.com/conan-gray-music-youtube-tiktok/ explains Draw My Life was a social media trend that creatives participated in where they’d tell their life story in whiteboard illustrations. Google news search show a very large number of results, this just a common thing people do, and the media comments on.
- https://www.bustle.com/articles/199388-watch-hermione-grangers-life-story-through-drawings-in-this-incredible-video
- https://filmmakermagazine.com/108931-sitting-in-front-of-that-whiteboard-for-two-days-joe-came-up-with-some-hilarious-and-strange-drawings-eugene-kotlyarenko-spree/#.YGZduzxOmM8 states how effective they are to help understand a character and the film they were making.
- So I believe this proves it is a real thing, with ample coverage in the media to deserve its own article. Dream Focus 00:01, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Agree for the reasons stated above. The article needs to be improved by incorporating those better sources, but they do exist. The notability disclaimers currently on there have that covered for the time being. Internetronic (talk) 19:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep: Article is good enough to pass WP:GNG with sources indicated above. It's a typical topic done by several YouTubers. ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 15:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 04:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Max Hechtman
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Fails WP:NFILMMAKER. The article was deleted in the past, but re-created. Really, there is not enough for a BLP for this filmmaker, one nomination for his short, some student work, that short, that is even by itself not that notable. Kolma8 (talk) 13:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - Since the prior AfD still doesn't meet WP:NFILMMAKER. All the issues from the prior AfD still apply, and nothing they have done since 2017 contributes to notability. Onel5969 TT me 03:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Strong Dratify Until filmmaker reaches notability, dratify it so we don't lose the information and sources presented in the article.HM2021 7:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment' @HM2021: as a general rule a BLP article of a non-notable person must be deleted. See WP:CRYSTAL and WP:INDISCRIMINATE in WP:NOT. By the way, are you related to the subject of the article? Kolma8 (talk) 11:36, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete does not meet the notability guidelines for filmmakers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:05, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Jared L. Valanzola
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WP:BLP of a county councillor and local radio host, not adequately referenced as passing our notability standards for politicians or broadcasters. As always, neither serving on a county council nor hosting a local radio program in a single media market are "automatic" notability freebies that guarantee the right to an article in and of themselves, but the article is not referenced well enough to make him notable for those things -- two of the four footnotes here are primary sources (his staff profiles on the self-published websites of the county council and the radio station) that are not support for notability at all, while the two that come from media just namecheck his existence within coverage of the county council election as a whole, and thus aren't evidence that he's somehow more notable than all the other county councillors and/or candidates whose names also appear in those two articles. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have a stronger notability claim and better sourcing for it than just technical verification that he exists as a person who has jobs. Bearcat (talk) 13:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- For starters, Valanzola is a county commissioner, not a county councilor. This is not the same job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OverArmour (talk • contribs) 15:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- The job title that a county government uses for its members makes absolutely zero difference to our notability criteria for politicians, because regardless of whether the county government is called a "council" or a "commission", it's still a county government, which is still a local office where people do not get an automatic presumption of notability just for holding it. Bearcat (talk) 16:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- In some places the county commission has both legislative and executive power, so yes they are not the same. But this is Massachusetts, where very little power at all is in the county, so having legislative and executive power at that level still amounts to next to nothing. In the US terms county council, county commissioner, county judge, and county legilstor are all used. County Judges are almost all executives, but there are often multiple ones, in Utah County, Utah with roughly 300,000 people, maybe more, they have 3 county comissioners, so this is clearly an executive and legislative function, it is like how Bull Connor was one of the city comissioners in Birmingham, Alabama, he was part of a three member executive authority. However in Macomb County, Michigan before we got a county executive we had I think an 18 member county commission, for reasons I understand even less we made it smaller when we got county executive. However the county commission in Macomb County had less than full executive power, since the sheriff (over police operations on the county level and the jail system), the prosecutor (Michigan has county prosecutors instead of state district attorneys, which means the counties are the local level of crime enforcement for prosecution, the Wayne County Prosecutor, Kym Worthy is without question notable, some states divide prosecutorial districts in ways that ignore county lines, thus lessening county power), the clerk and the tresurerer, and I think even the assessor are all directly elected. I really thought the new charter should have made less of these postions directly elected and if anything increased the number of comissioners. I think Wayne, Oakland and Macomb counties should rename their comissioners councilors. In Utah, Salt Lake County, which has a county mayor, also has a county council, so if you compare that to neighboring Utah county you see they are using the words with their historic meanings, in Macomb County the county seat, Mount Clemens, Michigan, is run by a commission, Warren, Michigan has a mayor/council set up, while Sterling Heights and Eastpointe have a council/city manager set up, although in Sterling Heights the mayor is directly elected to that position, but he is just the chair of the city council with any extra function fully ceremonial. The fact the other 6 members of the council are elected at large, while the mayor is elected in a one person election and the mayorial term and the council terms are the same length means that at times mayors run unopposed, because it is easier to get elected if you run for the council.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:24, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- The job title that a county government uses for its members makes absolutely zero difference to our notability criteria for politicians, because regardless of whether the county government is called a "council" or a "commission", it's still a county government, which is still a local office where people do not get an automatic presumption of notability just for holding it. Bearcat (talk) 16:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Our consensus has long been that county politicians are not presumed to be notable, and a Google news search brings up nothing except election results. Plymouth isn't even a particularly large county. Fails WP:POLITICIAN, WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. pburka (talk) 15:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails all the relevant notability criteria, and that's even before taking into consideration that county office is not deemed presumptively notable, that even with that county government in New England is quite weak compared to the rest of the US, and that county government in Massachusetts in particular is vestigial: in most of the state the counties have been abolished as anything other than geographical references. Plymouth County's one of about three exceptions, and even there the county commissioners don't do much more than oversee the county lockup. Whoop-de-doo. Ravenswing 22:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per pburka.--Mpen320 (talk) 23:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: County councillors or commissioners (i.e., local government) do not inherit notability from WP:POLITICIAN --Whiteguru (talk) 11:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete no where in the US are county commissioners default notable, in Massachusetts they are pretty much default not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Best of Luck Nikki. Consensus was that the article fails WP:V and WP:GNG. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 07:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Murtuza Kutianawala
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Unsourced Biography of Living Person and the subject does not pass WP:GNG. Iflaq (talk) 12:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Redirect - restore redirect to Best of Luck Nikki, which is the only semi-significant role by this actor. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 TT me 14:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete this is a biogrpahy of a living person with no sources, we need to remove it with all possible haste.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:21, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Redirect - restore redirect to Best of Luck Nikki as per above. Citterz (talk) 11:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)struck confirmed blocked sockpuppet, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ✗plicit 00:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Evan Edinger
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Not enough significant coverage by reliable secondary sources, mostly primary sources. Sources cover him but not in a substantial way. Throast (talk) 12:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep As far as I can see, this page passes Wikipedia's general inclusion threshold. From reading through the 18 sources listed, one is on the BBC radio interviewing him directly about his life as a YouTube star and another by the SWLondoner interviews him about his his worklife which lends to the notability which is in question. That BBC report as well as the 2 inclusions on the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire Show fulfill verifyability. Further references in Mashable and other online publications definitely seem to aid in the notability requirement, so I do not think this page suits the criteria required for deletion as stated. It could definitely use a cleanup though. For instance, possibly by replacing the primary source listed for his hometown with one of the large number of secondary sources found upon a cursory search, but a lot of those sites appear to be content aggregators so I wouldn't class them as too reliable. But as far as I can tell, most info on this page seems to be cited by the aforementioned reliable secondary sources.TwinTelepathy (talk) 20:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Google search resulted in several meaningful coverage from reliable, independent, secondary sources such as a review on his digital content by New Media Rockstars at [[8]], a review on Favorite Evan Edinger moments by Ten Eighty Magazine at [[9]], and a story of his career by American Expat Finance at [[10]]. Believe subject satisfies WP:SIGCOV which states "significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content, subject is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roulisegee (talk • contribs) 2021-04-09T18:30:44 (UTC)
- Keep per TwinTelepathy, the other editor (who left their comment unsigned), and the prior AfD. See Yash!'s comment. Opal|zukor(discuss) 09:05, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Cabbagetown Group Softball League
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Article about a neighbourhood amateur sports league, not referenced to any evidence of reliable source coverage about it for the purposes of establishing its notability under our inclusion standards for sports organizations. The only sources here are its own self-published website about itself and an archival fonds of its own internal organizational papers (reaggregated on two different websites, but the same fonds). But the existence of an archival fonds is not a notability criterion in and of itself -- for the purposes of a Wikipedia article, the notability test is a question of the extent to which the organization has or hasn't been the subject of journalistic coverage in media, of which none has been shown and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt it from having to show any. Bearcat (talk) 12:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete No evidence this meets GNG, and all of the sources ultimately seem to derive from the league. Eldumpo (talk) 15:56, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, as nominated. Doesn't meet WP:GNG and certainly not WP:NBASEBALL. PKT(alk) 20:24, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Aaghosham
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Film appears to fail WP:NFILM. Nothing found in a WP:BEFORE. Donaldd23 (talk) 12:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Weak Delete: On doing WP:Before in both Malayalam and English, I found nothing. May be its due to the age of this film. Sources may exist somewhere else in any format. Kichu🐘 Need any help? 01:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. If a redirect is desired, one can be created (and perhaps contested) separately. Sandstein 07:15, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Happy Halloween (Dreamworld)
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Lacks notability. Sources to press releases repeated by sources of dubious importance/reliability, and to primary sources. Every theme park has these theme weeks, months, events, and they all announce them as something special. That doesn't mean that they actually get significant attention (i.e. beyond sources repeating or rehashing these press releases). Fram (talk) 12:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge anything useful and sourced to Dreamworld (Australia) per WP:ATD. Deus et lex (talk) 23:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom: the current article lacks sources needed to establish notability, and there's no reason to assume that more/better sources exist. Nick-D (talk) 04:54, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - what about WP:ATD - why is a merge or redirect not inappropriate? Deus et lex (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- No objection, but this seems an unlikely search term. Nick-D (talk) 04:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- The search term will probably be "Happy Halloween" so could be included on a disambig page or at the top of another main article. Deus et lex (talk) 10:45, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- No objection, but this seems an unlikely search term. Nick-D (talk) 04:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - what about WP:ATD - why is a merge or redirect not inappropriate? Deus et lex (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus due to a lack of participation. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:06, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Bernard Courte
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Biography of a journalist and activist, not adequately referenced as passing our inclusion standards for journalists or activists. The only references here are the biographical sketches attached to an archival fonds and a portrait -- but neither having his personal papers preserved as an archival fonds nor the existence of a portrait are notability claims in and of themselves, and none of the work summarized in the article body is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have been the subject of actual reliable source coverage by journalists in media outlets or books. And even on a WP:BEFORE search for other sources, all I can find is a couple of glancing namechecks of his existence as a giver of soundbite in articles about other things, with no evidence of any sources that are actually about him for the purposes of establishing his notability. Bearcat (talk) 12:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. The subject has a lengthy entry here in Who's who in Contemporary Gay and Lesbian History: From World War II to the Present Day by Robert Aldrich and was an Honor Roll Inductee in 1998 for his work with AIDS for the Ontario AIDS Network (link here). His papers/fonds are held in The ArQuives and they have a biography on him here. He has additional fonds at the Quebec Gay Archives (link here), and they also have a biography on him here. The ArQuives states "Everyone who worked in the gay and lesbian community in the 1980s remembers Bernard Courte, journalist for Le Berdache... He was also one of the founding members and then Editor-in-Chief of the magazine Sortie... He was one of the first in Montréal to truly understand the importance of AIDS and its impact upon gay people." (link here). When Gary Kinsman interviewed Ross Higgins, Higgins called Courte a "crucial figure" and "very instrumental in the francophone community in Toronto" (link here). --Kbabej (talk) 18:48, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Being inducted into an organization's own proprietary "honour roll" is not an automatic notability freebie in itself, especially if you have to rely on the organization's own self-published website to source the claim because journalistic coverage about it is non-existent — in order for any award or honour to make its winners notable for winning it, it has to be an award that gets media coverage to establish its notability, so you have to be able to source the claim to journalism in media, where somebody wrote a news article about the presentation of that award, before it counts as a notability claim.
- Having his papers held by archives is not a notability claim per se, and the biographical sketches attached to those archives' collections of his papers are not notability-making sources — because by virtue of directly holding a collection of his personal papers, the archives are not fully independent of him.
- Transcripts of Q&A interviews, held in PDF form in the private website of an organization and not published in real media, are not notability-supporting sources, and being editor-in-chief of a magazine is not an "inherently" notable job that guarantees a Wikipedia article in the absence of any WP:GNG-worthy media coverage about him.
- Notability is not a question of simply being able to show primary sources, like interview transcripts or the self-published websites of directly affiliated organizations, as technical verification that he did stuff — it lives or dies on the amount of third party journalism that has or hasn't been published about him and the things he's done in media. Bearcat (talk) 16:11, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: I don't agree with your assessment completely, but that's neither here nor there, as I've located additional sources (below) that are standalone news articles in a notable publication. Those, combined with his entry in Who's who in Contemporary Gay and Lesbian History: From World War II to the Present Day, meet GNG in my opinion. --Kbabej (talk) 20:47, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: I found two newspaper articles on newspapers.com. There's an in-depth article on his views on AIDS by Heather Hill of the Montreal Gazette called "AIDS plague spawns epidemic of defeat" (August 13, 1983) (paywalled); there's another in the Montreal Gazette on if the Gazette had been biased in their coverage of a gay story when Courte complained in the article "No bias found in homosexual story: council" (June 10, 1986) (again, paywalled). --Kbabej (talk) 20:44, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Do you see in my nomination statement, where I said "all I can find is a couple of glancing namechecks of his existence as a giver of soundbite in articles about other things"? Congratulations, you just found the exact same two articles I was talking about.
- They don't change anything, though. "AIDS plague spawns epidemic of defeat" just briefly quotes him as a giver of soundbite in an article whose core subject is the HIV virus, and "No bias found in homosexual story" just mentions his name as the plaintiff in a press council complaint about the tenor of other news reportage in the Montreal Gazette. Neither of them are about him for the purposes of helping to make him notable — we're not looking for how many sources we can find that happen to glancingly namecheck his existence, we're looking for how many sources we can find that have him as their subject: news articles about him winning notable distinctions, critical analysis about the significance of his work, and on and so forth. Bearcat (talk) 02:06, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment: Additional sources: Xtra reported Courte was one of the inductees in Canadian Lesbian and Gay Archive’s National Portrait Gallery in 2003 (link here). The same organization also holds a shirt with Courte's likeness on it; the same shirt is listed in the Wearing Gay History project (link here). --Kbabej (talk) 17:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Neither of which are article-clinching notability claims in the absence of GNG-worthy coverage about him. (The Xtra piece, frex, just glancingly mentions his name in the process of being about Denis Leblanc, and thus is not building Bernard Courte's notability as he is not the subject being written about.) Bearcat (talk) 02:52, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- It absolutely adds toward notability, as the subject is important enough to be added to the Canadian Lesbian and Gay Archive’s National Portrait Gallery in 2003. It seems obvious you’re embedded in your position no matter what sources are presented, so I won’t go back and forth any more about this. —Kbabej (talk) 03:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- There is no Wikipedia notability criterion in which "a portrait of him is held in an archive's proprietary commissioned collection" confers an automatic notability freebie that would exempt a person from having to be the subject of enough reliable source coverage about him to clear WP:GNG. I'm not "embedded in my position no matter what sources are presented", you're failing to show any sources that are about Bernard Courte doing anything that meets a Wikipedia notability criterion. Bearcat (talk) 03:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- It absolutely adds toward notability, as the subject is important enough to be added to the Canadian Lesbian and Gay Archive’s National Portrait Gallery in 2003. It seems obvious you’re embedded in your position no matter what sources are presented, so I won’t go back and forth any more about this. —Kbabej (talk) 03:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Neither of which are article-clinching notability claims in the absence of GNG-worthy coverage about him. (The Xtra piece, frex, just glancingly mentions his name in the process of being about Denis Leblanc, and thus is not building Bernard Courte's notability as he is not the subject being written about.) Bearcat (talk) 02:52, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was Withdrawn It appears that the article FC Dinamo Sukhum was redirected too FC Dinamo Sukhumi and more extensive history was there. (non-admin closure) Govvy (talk) 09:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
FC Dinamo Sukhum
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Appears to be an amateur team as far as I can see, I don't see enough for WP:FOOTYN. Sources are very weak. I also feel this AfD is testing the waters a bit as I don't really know football in Abkhazia, Georgia. But as far as I can see, Georgia has top four levels, and this team appears to play below that level and is regional. However there seems to be indication that football in Abkhazia region maybe being played independently of the main state of Georgia. Govvy (talk) 12:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, team with very limited coverage playing in regional league. GiantSnowman 15:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Probably keep Of all the Abkhazian teams you could have picked to AfD, this one is the most confusing since they could easily be confused with Dinamo Sukhumi, which is an Abkhazian team which plays in the Georgian league system. A "Dinamo Sukhumi" also played in the Soviet second division in 1991 and I cannot figure out if this team is new, related, or recreated to play in Abkhazia while the other team went off to play in Georgia. The Abkhazian system I believe is completely separate from the Georgian football system so they play in a quasi-top-flight league. Receives local coverage [11] (youth tournament, the first one I found - I don't think Sputnik is considered reliable, but I don't see why this would be unreliable) and have won local honours. I also searched for Naft Sukhum in Russian and found coverage of the league, so my assumption is that WP:GNG would be met, but this is not straightforward due to language and political difficulties. SportingFlyer T·C 15:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Baháʼí Faith in Chad
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Entire article is based on Baha'i sources. There are only a very few secondary sources that mentions the subject in a trivial fashion. Fails WP:SIGCOV Serv181920 (talk) 10:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - Graham Hassall, Moojan Momen, and Peter Smith are professional scholars who have published a number of materials in various professional journals as have others such as those cited. Statistics from demographic encyclopedias (Religious Intelligence, ARDA, Adherents.com) as well as the US State Department show notable population.Smkolins (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Compare with Christianity in Chad which is almost completely from a single source from the US State department and two demographic encyclopedias and Islam in Chad which depends on two US Federal sources, one academic and one semi-demographic encyclopedia.Smkolins (talk) 12:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Fine, but this article is almost totally dependent on Baha'i sources only. Adherants.com and Religiousintelligence are both dead websites since years. Not sure how reliable they are? Google search, Google books, Google scholar have nothing on this subject.Serv181920 (talk) 15:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- "Fine" it is. The *notability* of an article is from such as the above. The *development* of the article is developed with such reliable sources as are available.Smkolins (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- This article is absolutely a Baha'i article, supported with Baha'i sources that could be "reliable" for the Baha'is. No secondary sources, in any language have anything on this subject. WP:SIGCOV states : "Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.... "Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability." And none of your sources are "Independent of the subject".Serv181920 (talk) 07:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- "Fine" it is. The *notability* of an article is from such as the above. The *development* of the article is developed with such reliable sources as are available.Smkolins (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Compare with Christianity in Chad which is almost completely from a single source from the US State department and two demographic encyclopedias and Islam in Chad which depends on two US Federal sources, one academic and one semi-demographic encyclopedia.Smkolins (talk) 12:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think this subject can be evaluated based on a Google search in English. One of the main criticisms of Wikipedia is its consistent bias coming from young white anglophone male, technically-inclined editors. Chad is one of the least developed countries in the world, not an anglophone country, and lacks a system of universities and publishing that give notability to obscure topics like Mary Ellis grave and Bristol stool scale. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 16:32, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: I'm not sure why this was nominated. I have a copy of World Christian Encyclopedia (2001) and for Baha'is in Chad it estimates 80,000 in 2000 and says: "Rapid expansion to 50 local spiritual assemblies by 1973, with 3,500 active members and a school at Gassi. Thereafter, however, growth became explosive, rising by 1996 to 437 organized LSAs." Coverage from Baha'i scholars with academic credentials and independent publishers seems significant. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 16:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Any country with a reasonably large representation of a worldwide religion should be susceptible to supporting an article on that religion in that country. This example does not seem at all out of bounds. If there are concerns about the quality or independence of sources, tag them for better sources being needed. BD2412 T 16:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- WP:SIGCOV says : "Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.... "Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability." And none of the sources used in the article are "Independent of the subject".Serv181920 (talk) 07:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Comment – All the independent sources have mentioned Baha'is in a trivial manner only. Smith and Momen do not mention Chad, and Hassall gives one sentence in a non-scholarly online source. World Christian Encyclopedia (WCE) says the number of Baha'is in Chad is 80,300 (2000) and 96,845 (2005). However, as noted at Baháʼí Faith by country, Margit Warburg, perhaps the foremost expert on Baha'is, writes that WCE's Baha'i numbers are unreliable and exaggerated. Religious Intelligence (2007) mentions that there are 80,335 Baha'is, though it doesn't appear to be a scholarly source. Given that WCE and Religious Intelligence are not reliable sources and they tend to be vastly higher than census figures of Baha'is reported by the UN Statistics Division (see Baháʼí Faith by country#Adherents by country), we should not assume there is a major Baha'i population in Chad without a better source. The US State Department says nothing except that there is a "small" Baha'i community. Then another non-academic source includes this: "Baha’i weekly prayer meetings in French are held on Saturday afternoons at the Baha’i Center, as are regular meetings." Adherents.com is dead and not peer-reviewed.
With all that said, perhaps the page should be kept but trimmed down, on the basis that it is a world religion represented in Chad. No opinion on the final decision. Gazelle55 (talk) 00:57, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - on the point of "Smith and Momen do not mention Chad" - the uses of the article are two:
- "The community of Chad avoided being banned as part of a sweep across several Sub-Saharan countries."
- Note that Niger *is* listed and is immediately to the west of Chad.
- "The religion entered a new phase of activity when a message of the Universal House of Justice dated 20 October 1983 was released."
- This is a scholarly source for a point which is then expanded upon in the following section about activities of the type.
- As for "Hassall gives one sentence in a non-scholarly online source" I'm confused - he's used twice. There are two mentions of Chad in the same source. It's not just one sentence. See under
- and
- As for if this is a "non-scholarly" I think that's debatable. Looks scholarly to me - has sources for the summary he published.
- Smkolins (talk) 13:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree with pretty much everyone. Yes, only bahaï sources are cited and yes, in and of itself, the subject is notable. However, this looks to me like a case of WP:TNT. It is very unlikely at this stage that anyone will put in the effort to thoroughly clean the article and remove all the non-notable, non-NPOV, non-RS content. We better start over. JBchrch (talk) 20:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment New sources are always to be considered to improve the article. There is no objection to Baha'i or non-Baha'i sources. Certainly none were ignored attempting to write the article using non-Baha'i and Baha'i sources that were properly published. I hope new sources are included. Please note some sources refer to the generality of Africa or sub-Saharan or Arab-African countries and were limited to brief mentions in those regards. Obviously "only baha'i sources" is incorrect. Everyone has agreed non-Baha'i sources are used. Let's find ways to improve the article and there's nothing wrong with using sources in responsible ways. As for WCE please note the scholarly review of their information from other sources which actually counter Wargit's pov in that they over-estimate Christians and thus under-report other groups as a general rule in the section immediately above the commentary about the Baha'is - by all means look up the papers. World_Christian_Encyclopedia#Reception Smkolins (talk) 22:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment and to be explicit, "only bahaï sources are cited" is incorrect. A list of independent sources used in the article are listed above and expanded on below available for further work.Smkolins (talk) 12:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - further to independent sources:
- "Graber, Geraldine Louise". The Province. Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. 24 Mar 2011. p. 86.
- "Chadian Faith Leaders welcome Chargé Davis Ba". Africanews.com. Sep 12, 2019.
- Gala M. Pierce (13 Jan 2002). "Aurora college student to talk about his adventure in Africa". Daily Herald (DuPage ed.). Arlington Heights, IL. p. 3.
When Ian Blood of Aurora took a 10-month Baha'i youth service trip to the African nation of Chad last year, he missed luxuries such as electricity, air conditioning and running water. Blood contacted other Baha'is in Chad to see if he could be of use. He said there are thousands who practice the Baha'i faith in Chad. "It was the second private radio station (in Chad) to receive a license," Blood said. "Freedom of the press is really a new thing in Chad."
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- Comment - These are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONSServ181920 (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Elisha Paul Janes
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It does not seem to pass GNG. I found some passing mentions in the press ([12]) but nothing that indicates enough notability. MarioGom (talk) 09:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: Absolutely no evidence of notability. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:48, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Megtetg34 (talk) 18:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete most of the sourcing is unreliable in the extreme. Building a bunch of homes is not enough to justify having an encyclopedia article on someone.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:26, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Consensus is to delete. This is not a bar against recreation if their is increased coverage in the lead-up/during/after the election they are involved in. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Independent Green Voice
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Wikipedia is not a gazetteer of political parties. See Patriotic Socialist Party, Miss Great Britain Party and Scottish Family Party for precedents for the wider Wikipedia community agreeing that not all political parties are notable, and notability does not attach itself to political parties as of right. This article has sources, but no evidence of GNG, ORG and general achievement. Content of article has issues of tone, content, and sourcing. Political party has no evidence of achievement or notability prior to, or following, elections, and party has no evidence of notable coverage for campaigns expected of a political party. doktorb wordsdeeds 08:10, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Yet another step on the nominator's campaign to have every article on a small political party removed from Wikipedia. In the interest of balance, please list also the AfDs you have proposed that were declined. Emeraude (talk) 08:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Wait until after the May elections. Notability seems to be borderline at the minute, but I think it is in the interest of democracy that the article is kept during the election period, especially as they are standing candidates on most of the Scottish Parliament's regional lists. We can then take into account the party's results and media coverage in the election when deciding whether or not they are notable.If the article is deemed non-notable, I would suggest redirecting to List of political parties in the United Kingdom to preserve the page's history. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 10:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I am swayed by some of the opinions below. It is unlikely that this party will garner any significant coverage before the election, seeing as the campaign has been ongoing for two weeks already and there is nothing so far. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 08:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- I believe it is appropriate that this article be deleted. It is my view that, if the decision was taken on the other List parties mentioned by Doktorbuk, then this party certainly does not pass the threshold - there is no evidence at all that it has any remote presence on the political scene. The individual named as the sole member of the party may, himself, justify a page about his own political activity, but it is not appropriate for a whole wikipedia page to cover this party. There are hundreds of other list parties with bigger followings that do not make the cut. I disagree that the issue should be kicked until after 6 May 2021.* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.100.98 (talk) 13:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- ALSO - I do not think it is correct that this party are standing candidates in multiple lists, my understanding was that the individual himself was contesting one Glasgow seat. It is not a party with members and individuals elected to stand on the list. My understanding is that the Party is the man himself.
- I have checked all of the statements of persons nominated and they say that the party is standing on six out of the eight regional lists. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 14:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Apologies, that is correct I missed it when I looked because I did not check each list (82.2.100.98). It is not a one-man party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.100.98 (talk) 16:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - This is a complicated one. For a party standing in an in progress election they are currently attracting very little coverage. In the past there has been some coverage, but historically they have been a bit of a one man band and it might be argued that an article on Alistair McConnachie is more appropriate. I can see the argument for leaving until the end of this election, but I have doubts that this will make a difference in the long term. Dunarc (talk) 19:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - Considering that there is a moderate chance of increased notability in the leadup and aftermath of the upcoming election, it doesn't make sense to delete this article until after the election - then, whether or not Independent Green Voice is notable will become more black and white. Wait until after the 2021 Scottish Parliamentary elections. Cran32 (talk | contributions) 01:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete It fails WP:GNG. It's not even borderline. Arguments based on the proximity of the elections do not appear to me to have any basis in policy. What we have is a party so minor that secondary reliable sources are not talking about it. What RS coverage we do have is more about Alistair McConnachie than about the party, so my second choice would be to re-name the article Alistair McConnachie. Bondegezou (talk) 12:57, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: The party fails WP:GNG today. We are considering this article today. Should it become notable in the future the article may be restored, provided with delete without prejudice to future re-creation Fiddle Faddle 12:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails GNG. The article is basically just an acknowledgement that "this party exists". — Czello 14:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Diana (musical)#Live stage filming. Until there is more WP:GNG-compliant coverage about the film specifically, at least. Sandstein 12:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Diana (2021 film)
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Non-notable production/filming so far. It is the case of WP:NYF. Fails WP:NFF. Kolma8 (talk) 07:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep There are a load of hits for this musical, should this be moved to Diana (2021 musical) ? Govvy (talk) 12:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Diana (musical)#Live stage filming Just a filming of the existing stage show. Nate • (chatter) 14:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Rediect per Mrschimpf. This is not a film, it is a filming of an existing show, and is not independently notable of that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Dratify We may hear more news about it in the coming months regarding how it was produced and Netflix might submit it for awards consideration this fall like how Disney+ did it with Hamilton (Golden Globes/SAG).HM2021 7:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- I guess it would be better to redirect it to Diana (musical)#Live stage filming at this point. It can then be reverted back to its current form once it has been released on Netflix and reviews and other appropriate sections can be added in due course. Keivan.fTalk 19:00, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. After two relistings, no consensus for a particular outcome has occurred. Sources were presented later in the discussion countering the nomination, but the nominator and user !voting for deletion have not revisited the discussion to provide any commentary or input regarding those sources and the guideline-based rationale provided for article retention relative to those sources. North America1000 18:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
HRnetGroup
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Does not meet WP:NCORP- coverage is WP:RUNOFTHEMILL for a recruitment company. MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 07:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete, doesn't meet WP:NCORP, sources are limited to trivial business activities and PR. SailingInABathTub (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
From Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Publicly traded corporations (my bolding):There has been considerable discussion over time whether publicly traded corporations, or at least publicly traded corporations listed on major stock exchanges such as the NYSE and other comparable international stock exchanges, are inherently notable. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case. However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above. Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports.
Analyst reports
https://sginvestors.io/sgx/stock/chz-hrnetgroup/analyst-reportInternet Archive contains a list of analyst reports. Here are four of the analyst reports from three different firms:
- "HRNetGroup Ltd". DBS Bank. 2020-08-12. Archived from the original on 2021-04-19. Retrieved 2021-04-19.
The analyst report notes: "HRnetGroup is the largest recruitment agency in the Asia Pacific (excluding Japan), according to Frost & Sullivan. The Group operates in 13 Asian growth cities, with its headquarters in Singapore. It has two operating segments, namely Professional Recruitment and Flexible Staffing."
- Seet, Jarick (2021-03-03). "HRnetGroup - RHB Invest 2021-03-03: Proxy To Economic Recovery; Keep BUY". RHB Invest. RHB Bank. Archived from the original on 2021-04-19. Retrieved 2021-04-19 – via SG Investors.
The analyst report notes: "2020 was a tough year for HRnetGroup due to COVID-19, as hiring decelerated – as evidenced by its decreased number of job placements, which led to a decline in revenue from professional staffing. However, with many countries expected to see an economic recovery this year, hiring should rebound – and this should benefit the company. As such, we lift HRnetGroup's FY21 earnings forecast by 15%."
- Ong, Darren; Lim, Siew Khee (2021-03-01). "HRnetGroup - CGS-CIMB Research 2021-03-01: Forging Ahead In FY21; Reiterate ADD With Higher Target Price". CGS-CIMB Securities. China Galaxy Securities. Archived from the original on 2021-04-19. Retrieved 2021-04-19 – via SG Investors.
The analyst report notes: "Flexible staffing volume came in at a high of 14,347 (+14% y-o-y), stronger than we expected. HRnetGroup's FY20 core profit above our/consensus forecasts. Jobs Growth Incentive (JGI) could potentially lift our HRnetGroup's FY21F core profit forecast of S$47.9m by 2.8%-28.3%. Reiterate ADD on HRnetGroup, with a higher target price of S$0.70, as hiring activities accelerate in FY21F from job creation."
- Yeo, Alfie; Sim, Andy (2020-08-13). "HRnetGroup - DBS Research 2020-08-13: Cautious Outlook As Job Cuts Loom". DBS Vickers. DBS Bank. Retrieved 2021-04-19 – via SG Investors.
The analyst report notes: "HRnet Group's 1H20 earnings below expectations on lower permanent placements. Weak GDP dampens earnings growth potential. Cut FY20-21F earnings by 17-20% on weak outlook."
- "HRNetGroup Ltd". DBS Bank. 2020-08-12. Archived from the original on 2021-04-19. Retrieved 2021-04-19.
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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 21:43, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Elohor Aiboni
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Non-notable. Of the three sources, one only mentions her once as an attendee. The other two mainly report on her appointment, which is not significant coverage. And the main claim to fame seems to be that she is the first female to hold the position of CEO at Shell Nigeria, which in itself is not an inherently notable role. Fails WP:BIO / WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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KeepDelete Considering that it is rare for women to occupy prominent positions in Nigeria (see Women in Nigeria), being appointed to head the company is important and has been covered by multiple sources. An aide of the President is reported to have confirmed it. I think WP:CONTEXTUALISATION is important for the keep. Vikram Vincent 08:32, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- By that logic, every one of the couple of hundred male midwives in the UK deserve an article, given that they represent a fraction of a per cent of the total midwifery workforce. I think not. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, if the UK Prime Minister acknowledges their appointment to head the mid-husband company ;-) Vikram Vincent 08:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Updated my !vote to delete after looking at the new sources presented by Bennyontheloose though my logic of context still stands. VV 21:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Well, if the UK Prime Minister acknowledges their appointment to head the mid-husband company ;-) Vikram Vincent 08:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- By that logic, every one of the couple of hundred male midwives in the UK deserve an article, given that they represent a fraction of a per cent of the total midwifery workforce. I think not. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Reliable sources from Nigeria have been added that document her winning the SheCanTech 2019 Woman of the Year award (SheCan holds second conference, celebrates Nigeria’s ‘First Women’ (The Guardian Nigeria, 2019)), and that she was also the first female Asset Operations Manager at the Bonga DeepWater Floating Production Storage and Offloading (FPSO) facility operated by Shell Nigeria, and her educational background (‘We believe every woman can do more when she recognises her innate potentials, capabilities’ (The Guardian Nigeria, 2019)). Beccaynr (talk) 03:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete The level of psotion she holds does not grant automatic notability, and the coverage of her holding the position is not enough to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment An article has been published here in the last few days. There's also this and this. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk)
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- Delete — I’m not sure how this has eluded me for thus long, but yes per rationale by @DoubleGrazing, WP:GNG is definitely not met. Celestina007 (talk) 20:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:BIO. scope_creepTalk 19:02, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:BLP1E, looking at the coverage presented by BennyOnTheLoose and others it seems to all be from the singular event of her being appointed to her position as Chief Executive of Shell Nigeria, with the exception of an interview and a passing mention in The Guardian Nigeria. Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Nuclear Mango
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no indication of notability. lack of reliable references. fails WP:GNG Lastin4 (talk) 07:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- I have blocked the nominator as a spam sockpuppet. However, I am leaving this nomination open for it to be assessed on its merits. MER-C 15:11, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Searches find some announcement coverage in 2009 ([13], [14]), which fall under trivial coverage at WP:CORPDEPTH. My searches, including Indian media specific, are not finding substantial coverage of either "Nuclear Mango" or "Split Image Pictures". The company website now redirects to a hairdresser, so it is unlikely that anything further will emerge in future. Fails WP:NCORP. AllyD (talk) 10:20, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I am unable to locate any deep or significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 12:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ✗plicit 03:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Cherushii
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Fails WP:NMUSIC. After filtering through all the sources, it appears that there are only two sources that could potentially be tested for notability: KQED and Vice. Much of the sources listed there are either press releases, editable databases, or social network posts. The Vice article appears to be a personal account from the artist's friend, so it cannot be used as a source, and the KQED article is plainly a trivial mention following the Ghost Ship fire. Even if the Vice article can be used as a source, it still would not fall under "significant coverage" as per the notability criteria. Thus it does not merit inclusion in Wikipedia. Aasim (talk) 06:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:BASIC/WP:GNG, and because I have added an obit/review from the Chicago Reader, an obit from SFGate, news highlighting her death from LAWeekly, The East Bay Times and Pitchfork, which support her notability; I haven't yet added this ABC7 report or this LA Times report, but both also provide biographical information. There are also reviews of her music from Pitchfork, LA Record, and 5Mag as well as in-depth coverage of her music from Pitchfork, which supports WP:CREATIVE notability, because she
created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work
that hasbeen the primary subject
ofmultiple independent periodical articles or reviews
and similarly, per WP:NMUSIC, because she hasbeen the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician
. Beccaynr (talk) 04:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)- To be honest, I have never heard of this individual until after the Ghost Ship fire. None of the works that she has authored or coauthored with another artist is notable, and after doing some digging, she does not even have a big social media presence compared to other individuals and singers from the Bay Area and Los Angeles. This may be a case of WP:ONEEVENT, where all that she got attention and notability for is for being a slightly popular musician who died in the Ghost Ship fire. All of the coverage I am finding are from after the Ghost Ship fires. It may be better to merge this with Ghost Ship warehouse fire. But I do not think she merits an individual page on Wikipedia. See [15] and [16]. Aasim (talk) 22:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Per WP:IDONTKNOWIT,
Everything in Wikipedia needs to be verifiable information published in reliable sources before an article can even be considered for inclusion
. As to her notability, per relevant policies and sources cited above, including WP:NMUSIC, Cherushii hasbeen the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician
, with biographical information that can be used to further develop the article. Per WP:CREATIVE, the multiple reviews of her music cited above also support her notability. Per WP:SOURCESEARCH, social media posts are described as sources thataren't actually building notability at all
, and are cited in the nom as problematic, so an apparent lack of a social media presence does not seem relevant to her notability. I also disagree that this is WP:BIO1E, including because based on the multiple independent and reliable sources, she did more than die in the Ghost Ship fire. Her music and her life are reported independently from the Ghost Ship fire (even when her death is mentioned), including by KQED in 2016 and the sources listed above, including music reviews several years after the fire and articles that focus on her. The obit articles cited above also support her notability per WP:BASIC and WP:GNG because they are significant and in-depth coverage from multiple independent and reliable sources. She also was not low-profile after she died, due to her music being released and reviewed by multiple independent and reliable sources after her death, so this is not WP:BLP1E. In addition, merger with the Ghost Ship warehouse fire article does not appear to be feasible, because that article focuses on the fire and the legal aftermath. I also do not think that links to WP:GOOGLEHITS, especially when only using her stage name as a search term, provides support for deletion, because multiple independent and reliable sources are available to support her notability according to several guidelines. Beccaynr (talk) 23:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Per WP:IDONTKNOWIT,
Relisting comment: In particular, BLP1E and a merge have been suggested in addition to the NMUSIC and BASIC/GNG considerations. Further participation and discussion may help develop a consensus.
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- Comment Additional sources, per WP:NMUSIC and WP:BASIC/WP:GNG: 2017 in-depth coverage about her life and music from Dazed, 2016 music review and interview before her death from Dummy, 2014 interview with Femmecult, 2020 review from DJ Mag (of music recorded by Cherushii in 2015), 2019 review with background context/biographical information from DJ Mag, 2019 review from Exclaim!. Beccaynr (talk) 18:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as passes WP:GNG with significant coverage of her career as well as her death such as Exclaim!, DJ Mag, Pitchfork and Vice as well as newspaper coverage so this is not a case of WP:BLP1E and there is no valid reason for deletion in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Additional sources to support WP:BASIC/WP:GNG and how she was not low-profile before or after her death (and therefore not WP:BLP1E) include a 2016 Chicago Reader feature article before her death that includes a focus on her with substantial context, a brief 2019 KEXP review, and a Reverb magazine obit with commentary, which includes what is reported to be her last interview before she died. Beccaynr (talk) 23:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Atlantic306. ~Kvng (talk) 13:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, given the sources identified by Beccaynr that show the subject passing WP:GNG (in my opinion). Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:28, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. Selectively. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
American Music Award nominations for Whitney Houston
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We have already got List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. There isn't any justification for this as a standalone article. Bluesatellite (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge: It should be part of the article: List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston.Wasraw (talk) 12:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. TheSkinsAdded (talk) 06:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. I am not recommending a merge because this article attempts to add commentary, but that commentary is non-notable trivia and inappropriate mentions of who won when Whitney did not. No need to merge unsupported trivia to the larger article. This one is an unneeded split from an existing list that is fully informative in its own right. (I do not think this vote should lead to any sort of "no consensus" mess, because so far there is a consensus to at least redirect.) ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 23:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. Selectively. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Grammy Awards and nominations for Whitney Houston
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Whitney "only" won 6 Grammies. She is neither the most awarded nor the most nominated person in Grammy Award history. Even if she were, there's no rationale for this as a standalone article, when List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston is there. Bluesatellite (talk) 06:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. TheSkinsAdded (talk) 06:21, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of awards and nominations received by Whitney Houston for the same reasons as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Music Award nominations for Whitney Houston. I am not recommending a merge because this article attempts to add commentary, but that commentary is non-notable trivia and inappropriate mentions of who won when Whitney did not. No need to merge unsupported trivia to the larger article. This one is an unneeded split from an existing list that is fully informative in its own right. (I do not think this vote should lead to any sort of "no consensus" mess, because so far there is a consensus to at least redirect.) ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 23:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Wilhelm Friedrich Mittrich
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BLP which is a borderline attack page. The sources indicate the company and the scandal are likely notable, but not the individual. Mccapra (talk) 06:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- This heise.de article is a lot more about the company than the person, and this article should be rapidly refactored or deleted. Writing everything in the shape of biographies is not right. Uncle G (talk) 07:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and not enough content about the individual. Moving to Optical Disc Service might be an option if we want to talk about the company and scandal, but we don't have sources for a biography. —Kusma (𐍄·𐌺) 12:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom Sharath Abhivadyah Talk Page 15:17, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Donald and Douglas
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One of the few remaning stand-alone articles about characters in this franchise. Prodded last year with "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar.". Deprodded as "too iconic" for a PROD. Article has, of course, not improved at all since the PROD. Sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per the nomination. The subject is clearly not notable, and the article is way below the quality requirements of Wikipedia. Laplorfill (talk) 06:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep There's plenty of coverage out there such as the Thomas and Friends Character Encyclopedia and the details of their engineering and Scottish heritage are reasonably well done. And, as always, it's interesting to find where and how the engines have been recreated with actual working examples. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:44, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Andrew Davidson, Thomas and Friends Character Encyclopedia is an illustrated children book companion, neither reliable nor independent (just look at this). As for WP:INTERESTING argument... sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:BEFORE did not reveal any sigcov, fails WP:GNG CommanderWaterford (talk) 08:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Grub Smith
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I am finding articles by Grub Smith, but not really about him. I am seeing nothing that gives me a sense that this subject passes the WP:GNG. BD2412 T 05:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete. The BLP doesn't meet Wp:GNG and the two sources that are given are not reliable sources. The article must be speedy deleted. Iflaq (talk) 06:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Speedy Delete I agree, the meet Wp:GNG, and the sourcing is skimpy to nonexistent. Article reads more like a promotional blurb than anything encyclopedic.TH1980 (talk) 01:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable journalist lacking significant coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. While there was a consensus that the subject is not a hoax, whether it is notable and whether the subject falls under WP:NOT is unclear. A speedy re-nomination based on the above reasons would be reasonable. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 03:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
The Workshop for Non-Linear Architecture
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WP:BEFORE finds only mirrors of Wikipedia. Likely hoax. Fiddle Faddle 05:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- I'm finding plenty of mentions in a variety of sources, e.g. [17][18][19][20][21][22]. None of these are in-depth and not all of them are reliable, but they do appear to be independent of Wikipedia so while I'm leaning heavily towards it being insufficiently notable for an article I am convinced it is not a haox. It would not surprise me if there was something here that would be suitable for merging into an article like psychogeography, especially if someone has access to specialist sources. Thryduulf (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep, seems the only question is if it's a hoax, and Timtrent's research seems to show that it's not. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'm convinced it's not a hoax, I'm not convinced WP:GNG is met. Brought up only a couple hits in online scholarly sources, but not entirely sure what to recommend. SportingFlyer T·C 18:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- It seems to be borderline promotional given that it makes repeated references to "Stewart Home" including inline ELs to his work (now removed), his webpage, and all the citations are pretty much to him as well. It also seems to attract a remarkable number of single-purpose accounts. QuiteUnusual (talk) 15:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
The Arboretum, Charlotte
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This neighborhood is not officially recognized by the City of Charlotte or any other government. The shopping center at it's center is nothing more than an unusually large strip mall. I've not been able to find any source, probably because there are none to be found. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - Not a real neighborhood, just a shopping center and things nearby. No indication of notability (lack of significant coverage in sources aside from mundane local news) or need to standalone; we have a whole article on the city. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- I have not been able to find any in-depth documentation on this, either. Arcadia books are usually good for this sort of thing, at least as starting points, when a subject is a documented one, and I have used them to good effect with other articles. The facts that Rogers & Rogers 1996 has nothing at all, even though post-dating the subject, and nor does Ely, Drain & Rogers 2001 , are quite telling. Contrast Byers 2004 being a good indicator that Plaza-Midwood is documented.
- Rogers, John Reynolds; Rogers, Amy T. (1996). Charlotte, Its Historic Neighborhoods. Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 9780752405155.
- Ely, Vermelle Diamond; Drain, Grace Hoey; Rogers, Amy T. (2001). Charlotte, North Carolina. Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 9780738513751.
- Byers, Jeff (2004). Plaza-Midwood Neighborhood of Charlotte. Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 9780738517018.
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The result was redirect to Hanka Paldum. Basically a "soft redirect". As no sources were presented, redirecting to artist as WP:ATD. If reliable sources are located, no prejudice against restoration to article status. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Nek' je od srca
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Could find no evidence of notability, either under WP:GNG or WP:NALBUMS. The most I could find was this trivial mention in one book. WP:BEFORE was performed with the Croatian and English names, with and without the name of the artist. Were this an English album, I would've simply PRODed. However, as I don't speak Croatian, my WP:BEFORE in that language was very rudimentary, and so I'm using this as a check on myself to make sure I'm not somehow missing something and causing this to be unjustly deleted. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 03:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was Flip upside down. April fools' day is over now. (non-admin closure) -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 00:27, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Australia
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It doesn't exist. also, I don't like it. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 14:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- *Strong Keep due to this very reliable source https://twitter.com/mejesseandari/status/1509147338459291653 CT55555 (talk) 15:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Salt and redirect to New Zealand, basically the same thing. Oaktree b (talk) 15:14, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect and merge to Asia Islands per Heartland theory once the merger between Europe and Asia is completed.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:28, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus on WP:GNG. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:41, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Viðar Örn Hafsteinsson
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Simply does not meet WP:NBASKETBALL. Onel5969 TT me 02:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep One of the best known coaches in the country, passes WP:GNG with the sources already in the article. Alvaldi (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, as per nom. First of the subject fails WP:NBASKETBALL so he has to pass general GNG criteria. The sources in the article are not giving enough sigcov hence fails this also. Kichu🐘 Need any help? 14:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment - seems borderline. Alvaldi what would you say were the WP:THREE best sources on this player in terms of coverage? Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- For me it would probably be these: Morgunblaðið - Coverage about him and his success with Höttur. Vísir.is/Stöð 2 - An interview on Stöð 2 with him regarding his stay with the team and recent promotion in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic in Iceland. Fréttablaðið - Article/interview regarding him and the flow of foreign players in the Icelandic leagues. This one is also from Vísir.is but is a good coverage about him and his team and a discussion about the interview with him. He became a bit of a cult phenomenon due to his bluntness in the interview and his quotes have been frequent headlines in the Icelandic media.[23][24][25][26]
- Keep - I agree that the sources above are enough to demonstrate WP:GNG, which simply requires that multiple reliable sources discuss the subject in a non-trivial way (multiple paragraphs dedicated to the subject would be more than a trivial mention); the references cited are from major reliable Icelandic publications, many of which I am familiar with when working on Icelandic footballer articles. Furthermore, there would be no obvious merge target so it's essentially keep or delete. There's definitely enough Icelandic media coverage to support a keep vote in this instance. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 04:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Alan Haskvitz
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Second nomination; the last one was a "no consensus" in 2014. Sounds like he had an interesting career, but I don't think this meets the notability hurdle as there is no significant, in-depth, independent coverage. Neutralitytalk 02:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- weak keep clearly notable given all the awards
and a obituary in a (local) newspaper.--hroest 13:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- The obituary looks like a paid obituary rather than a staff-written one. The awards don't establish significant in-depth coverage independent of the subject. Neutralitytalk 14:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I considered that but I think this is the paid one. I am also not claiming that the obituary by itself gives notability but based on the prior discussion and all arguments I concluded that he is notable. --hroest 16:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Both of these appear to be paid obits, just in different local papers: the first in Pasadena Star-News and the second in Inland Valley Daily Bulletin. Neutralitytalk 17:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, I retract my statement regarding the obituary. I also share your concerns regarding RS, it seems they are very sparse and from the ones in the article it seems only [27] has any info about him, a source I have never heard of before. On the other hand, some RS may be pre-internet. --hroest 01:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the awards does not have the independent coverage that is needed to show notability, and even a staff written obituary in a hyper local paper would not be in and of itself a sign of notability. There is nothing here even remotely suggesting that Haskvitz was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails GNG.--MadD (talk) 11:15, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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PROD was removed but without a valid reason. Not a notable company, as the size of their fleet and the lack of proper secondary sources indicate. Drmies (talk) 02:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Agree that this fails NCORP, based on available sourcing.--- Possibly (talk) 02:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- This company has announced operations firmly beginning in Fall 2021. Previous editor deleted sources. This operator is notable due to fleet expansion / orders / options with deliveries over next few months. Operator is positioned to become direct competitor with Porter Airlines given fleet expansion of Dash 8 Q400 aircraft and FAR Part 121 service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyguyairlines (talk • contribs) 2021-04-01T15:04:20 (UTC)
- … none of which is at all relevant. Where has this company been independently documented in depth by identifiable people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy? Please point to that. That shows notability. Our personal opinions of how important something is are not relevant. Nor are company press releases. Uncle G (talk) 09:22, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:NCORP. PR coverage only. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:59, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete does not have enough news coverage. Expertwikiguy (talk) 02:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I am unable to locate any deep or significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 12:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was draftify. Consensus was that the subject does not meet WP:NFF as an unreleased film since the production itself does not meet WP:GNG.
There exists consensus to discount some sources for overlapping coverage (and likely non-independence) when determining whether the production meets WP:GNG. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 17:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
American Boogeywoman
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WP:TOOSOON fails WP:NFF as no indication out of pre-production and that principal photography has started. This was moved to Draft space to incubate, which was correct for this but rejected by the author. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:52, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Anyone can clearly read in the Deadline article that the film is in post-production phase, from what I see the person who opened this discussion did not even bother to read the links. It is also the prequel to a film known as Monster and will be distributed by an internationally known distributor. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 02:00, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify - It seems that the nom tried this, but perhaps if there is wider consensus behind it, it will stick a little longer? To ensure this, you'd probably have to (a) force it to go through AfC (some will cringe), or (b) just wait for at least two reviews per WP:NFO? I don't quite understand your comment, Bruno Rene Vargas. Deadline reports that it's in post-production--OK, that's one potentially reliable piece, but being in post-production doesn't automatically meet WP:NFILM or WP:GNG notability requirements. Being a prequel to another film doesn't have any relevance to this film since notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. And having an international distributor also doesn't matter as the first part of NFO is being widely distributed with at least two reviews. NFF says filming must have started, but it also says that the production must be notable. Thus far, I am only seeing one independent, reliable report. Casting reports are very rarely independent and these (or at least the one linked) seems to fail WP:NFSOURCES being churn of primary source claims. An independent casting report would mean a reporter dug in and uncovered something unannounced that was later confirmed. Varity Insight seems good for verifying info, but there is zero prose, so it cannot fulfil NFSOURCES.
Of course, if the production was notable and there are reports out there saying something like "Peyton List was a dream to work with" or "The crew had to work 22 hours a day to get this done, and everyone hates ___" or whatever, I'd be happy to adjust my !vote, but until then, there's no real rush to have this in main space until there is more real independent coverage. I'm 99% sure this will be notable soon, but I don't see enough yet. Pretend there is a fire and all footage is destroyed, and they cut their losses after insurance pays out, never to try again. Is what we have enough to say it was a notable production? Not yet, for me at least. -2pou (talk) 07:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Ok @2pou:, I agree with what you say in some things but I do not understand why drafity if it is practically 100% sure that the film will have more notability very soon. Also, under the argument of imagining that hypothetical case, the truth is that a great majority of existing articles should be moved to drafts because only mega-productions or films with renowned directors would be taken into account because it is this kind of productions that have hundreds of articles. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 07:46, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: The 5 sources in the article are enough to pass GNG clearly. Reliable, significant coverage that is independent of the source. The rest is irrelevant to an AFD. The length and/or quality of the article is an issue for the talk page and for future editors to improve upon. Macktheknifeau (talk) 16:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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1 (Bloody Disgusting) | 3 pieces saying the same thing within a day of | ? Most is quoted mat'l--harder to tell how | ✘ No | |
2 (JoBlo) | each other clearly fails WP:NFSOURCES | ? much is their work, but moot to analyze. | ✘ No | |
3 (FilmInk) | (i.e. no independence as press release per WP:NFSOURCES) | Same as above, and not even a byline | ✘ No | |
4 (Deadline) | ✔ Yes | |||
5 (Variety Insight) | Zero words (prose) | ✘ No | ||
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- Comment: You are inventing reasons to dismiss sources that don't follow GNG. Labelling sources as "non-independent" despite at least three of them being unrelated to each other, and unrelated to the subject. You've also quoted an essay as a reason to discount a source. Essays aren't guidelines, anyone can write an essay and they have no weight or bearing on official discussions. It is not surprising to me that multiple sources will report on something once the information is made public, so calling that "churn" anyway is ridiculous. Macktheknifeau (talk) 04:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm happy to remove the essay reference if that is distracting. It was only intended to expound on what the WP:NFSOURCES guideline is saying already in a paragraph--to better articulate for an interested reader what it meant if they want to read instead of ask. The essay is not important to the argument at all. The point was that they are not unrelated to the subject as it is being put out by them—JoBlo straight says it, BD says they're just repeating Deadline, and FilmInk doesn't give a writer because that's common for press release. This falls under what WP:N defers to WP:NFILM for exclusion. Regardless, I doubt I'll sway you, but I will remove the essay, and let the community decide. -2pou (talk) 16:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: You are inventing reasons to dismiss sources that don't follow GNG. Labelling sources as "non-independent" despite at least three of them being unrelated to each other, and unrelated to the subject. You've also quoted an essay as a reason to discount a source. Essays aren't guidelines, anyone can write an essay and they have no weight or bearing on official discussions. It is not surprising to me that multiple sources will report on something once the information is made public, so calling that "churn" anyway is ridiculous. Macktheknifeau (talk) 04:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment. To really establish that this is notable, the film needs to have coverage of the production in some form or fashion. As someone who writes very, very regularly about horror films on Wikipedia, this is often not doable with most films because there aren't that many outlets that really care to report regularly on horror media. Sometimes if something goes mainstream enough it will, but it's never a guarantee.
- Now as far as the existing coverage goes, this says that the film is in post, but doesn't really give us anything about the production itself. For example, there's nothing really about where it was filmed, when, or other important info needed to establish that the production was notable. It's relatively rare to find coverage that would firmly establish this, which is why so many horror films don't have articles until fairly late in the game, typically after they're released. Offhand there doesn't look to be coverage to show where production is notable - there needs to be some other details other than "it's in post production" to really establish this. If I have time I'll try to see what I can do, though. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 20:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Draftify. Part of the issue with establishing notability for films is that we need to be able to establish that the production has received coverage. This is usually done by news articles reporting on the start of filming, announcements of stars coming on to the film, and so on. But with this there's nothing. No coverage of any type until the announcement that the film will release and that it's in post production. This is kind of surprising given the names involved (Tobin Bell for one). The coverage all says effectively the same thing, to the point where it is very, very obvious that they're based off the same press releases.
- The issue here is that while there is a brief flurry of coverage, it doesn't really show any depth of coverage because it's all pretty much the same. If some were slightly different and went over the locations or if there were announcements about stars coming on, then it might be easier to argue for a keep but this is just a bit too soon. If this were to sit in post-production hell (which happens A LOT) then this coverage wouldn't be enough to justify it passing NFILM or NFF. TBH, this is fairly common for horror films. They tend to fly under the radar and then spring forth almost fully formed once it's time to release, gain more funding, or sell. This can just sit for a little while until more coverage becomes available. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: How long an article might be has nothing to do with if it's notable or not. This article while passing GNG might only need to be a 30 word stub. Macktheknifeau (talk) 15:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's not about the length, it's about the fact that the existent coverage all states content taken from the same press release. There's no depth of coverage here. If something were to happen and this were to sink into post-development hell, which can and does happen extremely frequently - particularly with horror films - there would not be enough depth of coverage to justify inclusion. The main keep arguments here are arguing for inclusion based on the amount without really taking into account the content of the sourcing. It's not like the sources are written all that differently content-wise or like any of this has info on the production (other than it being in post) or even a review. There's just not enough out there to show a depth of coverage. That's why I think this should be put in draftspace. I think I'm probably one of the more liberal people when it comes to film notability, particularly when it comes to horror, but this just isn't there. It's just not ready yet. There needs to be at least some other coverage to really help establish how this meets NFF. I mean, if there were at least an interview somewhere that would be something but there isn't. There's not much out there other than what was put in the press release that was sent out. I don't think that any of the cast or crew posted on social media about this during filming, that's how little there was out there when I looked. Having an article is just premature at this point. This could release by the end of the year and have a ton of coverage... or it could sit for a few more years on the shelf, completed but not seeing the light of day due to the typical industry stuff that happens with films. We can't judge it based on potential future notability, just on what's here now - which isn't enough in my opinion to establish notability. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Essentially, it's not the length of the article, it's the fact that all of the available coverage is based on a single press release. The outlets can't give any more details because they haven't been given any other than what was in that single press release or what they took from the outlet(s) that reported on said press release. If there was something, anything out there to give more depth of coverage then that would be great - and I definitely looked - but there just wasn't anything. Ultimately all that was told was that the film is in post, has the specified actors, and was purchased, but not anything about where it was filmed or anything along those lines. NFF is pretty much hanging on a single sentence mentioning post-production, which isn't enough given that it's based on multiple outlets reporting on the same press release. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 16:11, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: How long an article might be has nothing to do with if it's notable or not. This article while passing GNG might only need to be a 30 word stub. Macktheknifeau (talk) 15:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Stawell Gift. Daniel (talk) 04:26, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Sam Jamieson (sprinter)
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Does not meet WP:NTRACK. Has information from only one source, the Herald Sun, which isn't considered to be a reliable secondary source. Nevertheless, the subject does not have significant coverage and does not meet the notability guidelines for their sport. Ajshul 😀 (talk) 21:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge into Stawell Gift - not individually notable person as this race is a community handicap event rather than an elite competition. SFB 14:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Nomination shows a complete lack of WP:BEFORE. A basic search shows coverage in multiple other mainstream reliable sources. Even if you are not keen on a stand alone article (might see it as blp1e) there is a clear alternative to deletion as pointed out above. duffbeerforme (talk) 21:05, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Those three sources hardly make him meet WP:NTRACK. Guitarjunkie22 (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There is no evidence of multiple sources that would lead to passing GNG. Ideally people who want to argue for such should add the sourcing to the article. At a minimum they need to cite specific sources in an argument to keep. They key to Wikipedia is verrifiability, which means finding sources, not just asserting they exist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:38, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge per Sillyfolkboy - no one has demonstrated that a merge to there isn't inappropriate. Johnpacklambert's contribution is unhelpful and should be ignored. Deus et lex (talk) 06:13, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. There's little discussion, and given the apparent potential for confusion, any new nomination should make sure that we don't confuse this person with the subject of the last AfD (if they are indeed different people). Sandstein 07:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Kumud Das
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This journalist was found in 2013 to be non-notable, as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kumud Das. The information in this article is from or prior to 2013, and so already considered by the prior AFD. Naïve Google search finds LinkedIn and Facebook and shows that he writes for the Economic Times. It appears that not much has changed in eight years. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:06, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep : The person Kumud Das [31] mentioned in your AFD remark is a different person. Kumud Das is not only a journalist but also a noted writer in Assamese language. To avoid confusion, here is a video of Kumud Das while hosting his popular TV show - [32] Nalbarian (talk) 06:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Hi Eatcha, could you please elaborate? He is a author of several books and a leading TV journalist of a major TV channel in Assam (Check the article and references). I think namesake (people having identical monikers in a nation of 1.3 billion) is the only problem with him. Nalbarian (talk) 06:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America1000 19:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Momele
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Was deprodded with the rationale, "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." If so, I wish they had been added to the article. Which right now only has 2 press releases, an interview, and a couple of brief mentions. Does not meet WP:NALBUM. Onel5969 TT me 15:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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- And a whole review! Meet WP:NALBUM. Last time you deleted an album that had four reviews! --Sanslogique (talk) 15:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Okay, one more time for the road.
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- Redirect to Tamara Gverdtsiteli as a compromise, and that is standard procedure for questionably notable albums anyway. I am unable to find anything in Russian or Georgian beyond the sources already in the article, but that may reflect my foreign language searching skills. I reviewed the current sources via Google Translate and agree with the nominator on how they are brief press releases from questionably reliable sources, a review that might be reliable but might not, and an interview with the singer in which this album is only mentioned briefly. Redirect to the singer per the usual procedure, and if anyone finds anything more reliable the article can be re-created easily. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 02:03, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 12:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Frances Street Squats
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Previously ended up being soft deleted due to lack of participation. Someone WP:REFUND however no compelling sources have been offered. The article from the very beginning was sourced almost entirely from the The Ubyssey which is like a local paper. Another from a different college paper by the same author. I find that this former squat house of the local interest doesn't pass WP:ORGDEPTH, WP:NORG and in determining/WP:SIRS, series of coverage by the same publisher or journalist is considered one source. The student paper as well as local centric sources fail the audience base, because it is a intended for Vancouver area coverage. It also appears that the article's creator was an involved party of the article. Graywalls (talk) 01:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Nothing suggests this is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment The user who requested WP:REFUND added contents and sources, but it still doesn't amount to significant coverage in media not tailored to local cverage. Graywalls (talk) 20:52, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - appears to be extensive coverage in the Vancouver Sun, The Province, The Ubyssey, and it's the subject of a chapter of Under the Viaduct: Homeless in Beautiful B.C.. Some of the sources I don't have access to (like the text of that chapter), but considering the amount of pre-web coverage that's accessible or at least visible, I'd imagine there would be even more from contemporary sources. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- comment which The Province coverage? I didn't see it cited. Care to explain which source you mean? Local Vancouver matters (local affairs) covered in Vancouver press is hardly a surprise. The Ubyssey is exceedingly local. The Ubyssey would be reliable coverage for that those things happened near the UBC campus, but meaningless for notability. Have you looked at AUD in WP:ORGDEPTH? Also articles that extensively quote long quotes of "the subject organization said..." for the lack of intellectual independence should be properly discounted. That book you talk about is very much locally focused. A chapter in a locally focused isn't much in terms of audience. It's also over reaching to speculate on the coverage significance based on a chapter in a book you don't have access to. Graywalls (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- I found the Province sources when browsing newspapers.com. I'll have to get back to you with links as I'm now on a computer which doesn't have that login saved. As for the book, according to Worldcat it is held by 66 libraries, only 7 of which are in BC. It may have a local focus, but isn't "local coverage". — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- WP:AUD doesn't just concern geographical coverage, but field of interest too. If one tries, they could find books held by a number of libraries that talks about farms in North Plains, OR... or churches on Forest Grove, perhaps in some depth. Those have limited meaning in WP:NORG notability for those places named in the book. Graywalls (talk) 21:56, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- comment which The Province coverage? I didn't see it cited. Care to explain which source you mean? Local Vancouver matters (local affairs) covered in Vancouver press is hardly a surprise. The Ubyssey is exceedingly local. The Ubyssey would be reliable coverage for that those things happened near the UBC campus, but meaningless for notability. Have you looked at AUD in WP:ORGDEPTH? Also articles that extensively quote long quotes of "the subject organization said..." for the lack of intellectual independence should be properly discounted. That book you talk about is very much locally focused. A chapter in a locally focused isn't much in terms of audience. It's also over reaching to speculate on the coverage significance based on a chapter in a book you don't have access to. Graywalls (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Question Was this such a notable case that it resulted in any laws being changed, anything changed at all? Is it taught in any textbooks? A search through old newspapers shows its mention along with other squats, they quite common. Dream Focus 01:22, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment this is a valid point. There are locally themed books focused on Oregon Willamette Valley/Wine Country that has a list of vineyards that may have a many pages dedicated to each vineyard going into the vineyard's history, the family, then there are probably local papers that talk about those thing in depth, because they're of importance in the locality. I would say that's still not enough to satisfy creating an article here for that vineyard, unless you say, that vineyard is more greater significance than simply being talked about for a chapter in a local themed, topic specific book. I see no real indication that these group of houses that have become squatted are more than relatively common, run of the mill squatter occupations that happened to get picked up and covered fairly extensively in one source (per SIGCOV, series of coverage by one publication counts as one) Graywalls (talk) 05:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- That is not correct at all. We do not consider audience size or personal judgements, as that leaves us open to losing a lot of proper content, and this was a point made early on in Wikipedia history with the failed "Wikipedia:fame and importance" idea. Most subjects have limited audiences in one way or another, from species of beetle to 1970s music groups. It is writing not reading that counts. A vineyard that has its history, geography, economics, and whatnot independently documented in depth by multiple people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy is as valid a subject as a city that has history, geography, economics, and whatnot so documented.
Indeed, to the contrary: local history books are often very good sources, especially compared to the alternative such as robot-creating articles from GNIS database entries. I have found, for example, the Arcadia Publishing ones invaluable for rewriting things such as Robert, California (AfD discussion) or Escalle, Larkspur, California, and equally for filtering out truly non-notable things like The Arboretum, Charlotte (AfD discussion). Local history books point the way, and newspapers and other stuff flesh thing out, correct errors, and suchlike.
This subject is another case in point. The only major coverage that I could find, stating how important the author thought it was, turned out to be authored by one of the squatters. And the article started out sourced to squatter press releases. There's a lot more independent coverage of "Woodsquat" at Woodward's department store in Vancouver than there is of this. It's that that has actually escaped its authors/creators and been independently documented in depth, with background and analysis. A geography professor has discussed it, for example, in Blomley 2004, pp. 39–50 , as has another professor, in a university press book (Robertson 2011) . (There is nothing similar for this squat that I can find.) The erstwhile photograph manager of the Vancouver Sun includes it, per xyr talk on these sorts of things and presumably in the connected book Bird & Demers 2017 . That is definitely multiple people.
And once again Special:Whatlinkshere/Woodsquat tells us that we did not even know that we did not have this.
- Blomley, Nicholas (2004). Unsettling the City: Urban Land and the Politics of Property. Routledge. ISBN 9781135954192.
- Robertson, Kirsty (2019). Tear Gas Epiphanies: Protest, Culture, Museums. McGill-Queen's/Beaverbrook Canadian Foundation Studies in Art History. Vol. 27. McGill-Queen's Press. ISBN 9780773558298.
- Bird, Kate; Demers, Charles (2017). City on Edge: A Rebellious Century of Vancouver Protests, Riots, and Strikes. Greystone Books. ISBN 9781771643139.
- The examples you provided are not organizations or companies.WP:NORG is a SNG with emphasis on sourcing to prevent promotional articles that organizations/companies articles are susceptible to. In notability, under WP:SIRS, media of limited interest (which local coverage would be) are specifically discounted for notability building purposes. But, with regard to this article, it seems like you're suggesting it fails to meet notability requirements. Graywalls (talk) 10:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, that is wrong. Excluding limited interest sources loses the beetles and the like, as their sources are limited interest too. It is sources that are not independent or trivial that are discounted, which includes press releases, even recycled ones masquerading as newspaper reporting, and stuff authored by the subject or its inventors/founders/creators/whatnot such as Bruce Gongola writing in that volume of West Coast Line. Few people seem to have noticed that Wulwick in West Coast Line is a press release by the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty written in the first person. I know why Rhododendrites thinks that there's "an entire chapter" in a book about this, because I found the same book review. However, I've actually looked at that book. This "entire chapter" is first-person interviews with the squatters (all in quotation marks), followed by Squatters Alliance of Vancouver Press Statement (which is clear on its face), followed by Chu 1991 which is another first-person analysis by one of the squatters.
- Chu, Keith (1991). "The Frances Steet Squats" (PDF). In Baxter, Sheila (ed.). Under the Viaduct: Homeless in Beautiful BC. Vancouver: New Star Books. pp. 80–88.
And if the squat that I hyperlinked isn't an organization or a company, then this also a squat isn't either; not that that matters because these principles apply well to everything, from beetles to squats.
- No, that is wrong. Excluding limited interest sources loses the beetles and the like, as their sources are limited interest too. It is sources that are not independent or trivial that are discounted, which includes press releases, even recycled ones masquerading as newspaper reporting, and stuff authored by the subject or its inventors/founders/creators/whatnot such as Bruce Gongola writing in that volume of West Coast Line. Few people seem to have noticed that Wulwick in West Coast Line is a press release by the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty written in the first person. I know why Rhododendrites thinks that there's "an entire chapter" in a book about this, because I found the same book review. However, I've actually looked at that book. This "entire chapter" is first-person interviews with the squatters (all in quotation marks), followed by Squatters Alliance of Vancouver Press Statement (which is clear on its face), followed by Chu 1991 which is another first-person analysis by one of the squatters.
- That is not correct at all. We do not consider audience size or personal judgements, as that leaves us open to losing a lot of proper content, and this was a point made early on in Wikipedia history with the failed "Wikipedia:fame and importance" idea. Most subjects have limited audiences in one way or another, from species of beetle to 1970s music groups. It is writing not reading that counts. A vineyard that has its history, geography, economics, and whatnot independently documented in depth by multiple people with good reputations for fact checking and accuracy is as valid a subject as a city that has history, geography, economics, and whatnot so documented.
- Comment this is a valid point. There are locally themed books focused on Oregon Willamette Valley/Wine Country that has a list of vineyards that may have a many pages dedicated to each vineyard going into the vineyard's history, the family, then there are probably local papers that talk about those thing in depth, because they're of importance in the locality. I would say that's still not enough to satisfy creating an article here for that vineyard, unless you say, that vineyard is more greater significance than simply being talked about for a chapter in a local themed, topic specific book. I see no real indication that these group of houses that have become squatted are more than relatively common, run of the mill squatter occupations that happened to get picked up and covered fairly extensively in one source (per SIGCOV, series of coverage by one publication counts as one) Graywalls (talk) 05:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Graywalls, throughout this discussion you keep arguing based on WP:CORP (WP:AUD, etc.). This isn't a corporation or organization. It's a set of six houses. We're looking for GNG, not NCORP. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- I see it differently. They're a group of houses, organized by squatter occupants who have collectively organized them into "Frances Street Squats", a collective action of two of more people, thus I believe that NORG is appropriate Graywalls (talk) 17:38, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- They did organize themselves into an organization, which is mentioned in this article. This article is not about that organization. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:50, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I found a public-interest journalism source from 2016 that reports on the Frances Street Squats in the context of other squats, and mentions the documentary about the Frances Street Squats, which is linked in the External Links section of the article. This commentary, along with the documentary, appear to support WP:ORGDEPTH (the guideline specifically identifies a documentary film as an example of substantial coverage, and also states
at least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary
, which the source linked above and the documentary appear to satisfy), and there is another source, albeit from a student writing on a Pacific Rim College website in 2018, that describes the Frances Street Squats as "one of the largest and most notable public squats in Canadian history," which suggests that additional sources may WP:NEXIST. The article also is already more than a stub, which is part of what the WP:ORGDEPTH guideline seems concerned with avoiding. Beccaynr (talk) 03:17, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- op-ed. Did you see that this is an OPINION piece? "Opinion by Jakub Markiewicz" ? Graywalls (talk) 03:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- I did, and per WP:ORGDEPTH,
Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization
(emphasis added), and it includes reporting on the Frances Street Squats and the reference to a screening of the documentary as part of the larger opinion article, which both seem to emphasize the enduring notability of the Frances Street Squats long past the initial burst of news coverage. Beccaynr (talk) 03:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)- Reading there, I see coverage, but not sigcov. FWIW Graywalls (talk) 03:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Per WP:GNG,
Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material,
and it does not appear to be a trivial mention per that guideline due to the commentary and context, nor within the list of examples of what constitutes trivial coverage in WP:ORGDEPTH, e.g.listings and mentions not accompanied by commentary
. Beccaynr (talk) 04:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Per WP:GNG,
- Reading there, I see coverage, but not sigcov. FWIW Graywalls (talk) 03:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- I did, and per WP:ORGDEPTH,
- op-ed. Did you see that this is an OPINION piece? "Opinion by Jakub Markiewicz" ? Graywalls (talk) 03:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Delete The coverage highlighted above is not sufficient, it fails WP:GNG - the coverage in independent sources is not in-depth - I’m sure I could find a similar depth of coverage about my local grocery store. Additionally WP:ORG is the relevant policy and that requires a greater depth of non-local coverage than GNG. Those arguing it is not an organisation but a collection of buildings should consider that it obviously fails WP:NBUILD too. --Pontificalibus 11:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
List of properties of Hilton Worldwide
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Article is a directory that violates WP:NOTDIR and doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Aausterm (talk) 00:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep No, it's not a directory because it doesn't include contact information. It's a list and, insofar as it contains several blue links, that's fine. If the red links and plain entries don't seem useful then they can be removed by ordinary editing. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. Category:Hilton Hotels & Resorts hotels has 120 articles, how does the scope of that category compare to what was intended with this list? Nom is a WP:VAGUEWAVE currently. postdlf (talk) 16:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Comment This violates the simple listings part of the WP:NOTDIR as it just provides a listing of locations. Most of them are non notable and the notable ones are already covered by the Category:Hilton Hotels & Resorts hotels. If this page is to be kept, it will need to be changed Aausterm (talk) 18:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a directory of mostly non notable hotel franchises and accompanied by their official websites. Clear cut WP:NOTDIR. Ajf773 (talk) 08:40, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete This is WP:OR and fails WP:LISTN - there are no sources cited that confirm all these properties are operated, owned or franchised by Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. and not some other entity. Seeing a hotel branded as Hilton outside the US and assuming it should be on this list is a big leap that should not be made. Also, the group of hotels of Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc. is not notable - there are no sources discussing this group in detail. There might be scope for a navigational list more closely related to the category of Category:Hilton Hotels & Resorts hotels, but this isn't it.----Pontificalibus 06:47, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 23:10, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Mass automobility
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Neologism covered elsewhere such as Automobile dependence, History of the automobile etc. Darrelljon (talk) 14:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep The OED has usage of automobility back to the 19th century and so it is an established part of the English language and therefore not a neologism. Moreover, the topic seems to be reasonably notable and so merits a page. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Mass automobility suggests something distinct from mere automobility or other topics already covered such as automobile, history of the automobile, automobile dependence or modal share.--Darrelljon (talk) 17:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. It crops up in some papers and books, e.g. "Harmonizing Cars and Humans in Japan’s Era of Mass Automobility", "The Automobile Industry Since 1945.", "Exploding Johannesburg: Driving in a Worldly City", Republic of Drivers: A Cultural History of Automobility in America, "The Car and the City" Clarityfiend (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Automobile dependence, the articles essentially cover the exact same topic, the only difference being that this one goes of on an America-centric original research-ish tangent. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:35, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think it does. Automobile dependency is essentially current urban planning, while History of the automobile covers the nuts and bolts of inventions. Mass automobility is a social phenomenon. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Automotive city covers urban planning. Automobile dependency covers the social phenomenon. Mass automobility is surplus here and the title implies something other than mere automobility. The level at which it became "mass" automobility is covered in the history of the automobile.--Darrelljon (talk) 21:47, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. North America1000 09:04, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Pierre Szalowski
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WP:BLP of a writer, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NAUTHOR. As usual, every writer does not automatically get a Wikipedia article just because he exists -- the notability test requires some indication of his significance, such as winning major literary awards and/or having enough critical attention paid to his work in newspapers and literary review journals to pass WP:GNG. But this literally just states that he exists, and references that existence exclusively to his "our authors" profile on the directly affiliated website of his own publisher and a Q&A interview in which he's speaking about himself in the first person on a non-notable and unreliable blog -- neither of which are sources that can support notability. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have far more and better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 21:44, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete – doesn't pass WP:AUTHOR or WP:GNG Ajshul 😀 (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep there is decent coverage in French. I added four sources, including LaPresse, Le Devoir, and Voir, which are good publications here (in Quebec). His books have been subject to independent in-depth reviews. (General statement: pretty much all the coverage is in French, so if you cannot read French it is going to be difficult to assess this one.)--- Possibly (talk) 22:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ok I have now added nine sources. Four of those are for the Cinematheque quebecoise, which is a museum of Quebec cinema. What I am seeing overall is three decent-size independent profiles on him, a significant prize (Archambault prize), a tv episode that he was the subject of (Au Coeur du Cinema Quebecois) and three works that he wrote or directed are in the Cinematheque quebecoise's permanent collection. I am thinking this meets GNG.--- Possibly (talk) 23:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as Possibly's sources now demonstrate notability. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:55, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete I don't see how the current content of the article fits WP:AUTHOR or WP:GNG. Two books which almost nobody knows about? Guitarjunkie22 (talk) 22:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep per WP:NOTPOINTy (non-admin closure) — csc-1 23:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Zero-dimensional space
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This article, as well as the point (geometry) article, should be deleted per WP:POINT.[April Fools!] --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 15:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BATTLEOFBIKINIBOTTOM. Tanker4390 (talk) 15:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete and block all per WP:POINT. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 20:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was Make 4D. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 00:47, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Three-dimensional space
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If 3-dimensional space is not allowed on Wikipedia, then this article should not be allowed as well.[April Fools!] --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 15:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Super Paper Mario to unlock the third dimension. GlitchMaster2 (talk) 15:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:HOAX. Has anyone seen three dimensions? We can only see in two dimensions. --Heymid (contribs) 15:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/7 Years (Lukas Graham song) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walgreens Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dude
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The result was delete per WP:IDONTLIKETHENEWLOGO. (non-admin closure) GMXping! 00:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
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Obliterate all Wikimedia websites in one fell swoop by removing the engine! North America1000 13:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the logo isn't simplified enough. It must be user-friendly. Panini📚 13:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete there weren't enough flowers in the logo, my attempt to add it for 4 minutes. Tropicalkitty (talk) 23:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. April fools is over now (non-admin closure) -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 00:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Pompeii (song)
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"But if you close your eyes..." After that line, this article would be deleted just like some countries.[April Fools!] --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 12:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- ...and other geographical regions. --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 12:54, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pompey. Panini📚 13:11, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, almost feels like nothing changed at all when it was made. GlitchMaster2 (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Herculaneum "Does it almost feel like you've been here before..." Yes, That Will (talk) 18:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pompeii per WP:NSONGS. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 21:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was eaten. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 00:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Milky Way
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The article is written as though this location truly exists. However, it's a fictional location, claimed to exist only by those who claim to be from there. In fact, even Wikipedia's own article starts as: "The Milky Way is the galaxy that contains our Solar System". 147.161.9.166 (talk) 12:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete because life is meaningless. Panini📚 12:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Milky Way (chocolate bar) because it's delicious. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge into Milky Way (chocolate bar) - Obviously the real Milky Way. Foxnpichu (talk) 14:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with the Andromeda Galaxy to form Milkdromeda as will happen in several billion years. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 18:11, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: It's Wikipedia's responsibility to usher in the apocalypse. Some fear the inevitable, but we know our true purpose. Tyrone Madera (talk) 18:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was the article was fed to the tigers. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 19:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Tiger King
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This Netflix "documentary" contains several WP:BLP violations and should be deleted per WP:BEANS.[4-1] —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Nailed It! because it's clearly the best show on Netflix. Panini📚 12:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Burger King. North America1000 13:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Lion King per WP:Misspellings. --Heymid (contribs) 17:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was turned upside down. (non-admin closure) — csc-1 23:50, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Frown
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Turn that frown upside-down. North America1000 12:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- This AFD is sponsered by the WP:Department of Fun
- Keep for all of the angsty teenagers out there. Panini📚 12:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Smile to fix the problem. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 15:32, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge into Botox and tone it down a bit.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was Signed with ~~~~. April fools' Day is over now. (non-admin closure) -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 00:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Interstate 296
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If Interstate 296 in Grand Rapids, Michigan, is unsigned, then the article should also be unsigned.[April Fools!] --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 12:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sign your posts with ~~~~ —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:22, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- ~~~~ per above. Panini📚 12:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- For the love of god, guys, it's not that hard. SineBot (talk) 12:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was April fools is over. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 00:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Dr. Luke
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Non-notable producer with no Grammys and barely one or two hits over a decade ago. A publicized court case does not impart notability to this one individual involved in it. If it won't be deleted then at least redirect to Tik Tok (song).--NØ 10:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Dr. Eggman because it's almost Easter. Panini📚 11:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Luke Skywalker, the far more notable Luke —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Blond. North America1000 00:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Boris Johnson
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Nominating a wet wipe for obliteration per WP:Spam Idan (username is Zvikorn) (talk) 08:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Delete - only popular because of have I got news for you and he couldn't even do that properly 141.92.129.41 (talk) 09:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- His hair is wierd per nom. Panini📚 09:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - should have been deleted years ago per CSD G1. Sincerely, Marksomnian. (Talk to me) (if you reply, please {{ping|Marksomnian}}) 10:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - per WP:NEWSSTYLE,
Especially avoid bombastic wording, attempts at humor or cleverness, reliance on primary sources, editorializing, recentism, pull quotes, journalese, and headlinese.
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- Keep Who would replace him? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 10:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Donald Trump as basically the same person but British, hair and all. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- True. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 11:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- -While we're at it, why don't we redirect Narendra Modi, Jair Bolsonaro, and Vladimir Putin as they basically follow the same formulas? JayPlaysStuff (talk) 12:10, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- speedy keep to get brexit done! Yes, That Will (talk) 12:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Serious non-joke comment: Doesn't this count as a borderline attack page? Foxnpichu (talk) 14:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Foxnpichu: I don't think so. As long as everyone understands that this is just a joke and that no one here means what they say. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 14:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete Weird blonde-hair man... sounds like a violation of WP:COPYVIO to me. KingOfAllThings (thou shalt chatter!) 15:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete His hair violates WP:COPYVIO. –Cupper52Discuss! 18:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTNEWS, which says "Even when an event is notable, individuals involved in it may not be". What was this guy involved with besides being Prime Minister? :P SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was it's indefinite. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Indefinite article
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How can we have an article that self-declares it's not even about any definite thing? DMacks (talk) 06:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per A11 Opal|zukor(discuss) 08:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Kup Panini📚 09:50, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 11:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Indefinitely block. It is just asking for it. Foxnpichu (talk) 14:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:HOAX, because its not a thing 108.172.21.134 (talk) 17:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was Solve the GPU shortage. April fools' day is over now (non-admin closure) -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 00:51, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
GeForce 30 series
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GPUs of this series doesn't exist on retail market. NotCory (talk) 06:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I don't think it exists at all. We should not have an article on a fictitious product. Saucy[talk – contribs] 07:57, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Radeon RX 6000 series because they are superior and cheaper.[April Fools!] Purplneon486 (talk) 09:11, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- What the heck is a GPU? Panini📚 09:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- What does a GPU even look like? Casspedia (talk) 10:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Bitcoin One Blue Hat❯❯❯ (talk) 19:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was Whaled.. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Lepidammodytes macrophthalmus
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This poor fishie has never been nominated for deletion before and I didn't want it to feel left out of the April Fools' Day festivities:-( Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Not notable enough to be considered for deletion. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per WP:A2: This clearly isn't English. Opal|zukor(discuss) 08:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Just one source?! Wikipedia demands at least one source per ten syllables! Nuke it![April Fools!] クロッド (読んで) 09:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Unstubbify, expand, stubbify, draftify, take to ANI to show this fish what Wikipedia is actually like. Panini📚 09:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Trout because it needs it. HotdogPi 12:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete because I can’t pronounce it. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Anagram, this fish's letters will be useful for my Scrabble game. —moonytheantifool (Braden N.) 16:22, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Fish as it is not notable enough on its own. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 18:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, article title is far too long. Link20XX (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Smash!
You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly. InvalidOStalk 00:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was great wrong righted. (non-admin closure) — csc-1 23:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
United States Electoral College
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This should be deleted per the policy WP:NOTDEMOCRACY. In addition, it focuses all attention on swing states which means it should be deleted per WP:BATTLEGROUND. Finally, elections should be based on the popular vote which only could happen if this is deleted. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 05:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Lists of American universities and colleges. Obviously. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep and suggest close Stop the count! AllegedlyHuman (talk) 05:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Let's deleteDede2008 (talk) 05:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per A11, even if this were real it wouldn't even make sense. Opal|zukor(discuss) 08:25, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Donald Trump per "Trump 2020 Joe Biden is gonna die guys". Panini📚 09:54, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delayed DELETE! As soon as they sort out the constitution (or implement the NaPoVoInterCo), this page is history! The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete You know, this seems to be a bit overdue at this point. It was clear that this is an unreliable source for elections. Robertocomics fart 16:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Tertiary schools are usually presumed notable.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Australia. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Austria
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This is a fake country as it's another page of Australia HawkAussie (talk) 05:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Transwiki to Malagasy Wiktionary per this. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Australia as a common misspelling. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Spedy delet per WP:R3: This articel is clerly a type o of Austrayliya. Opal|zukor(discuss) 08:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Germany 141.92.129.41 (talk) 09:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- This page contains material that is kept because it is considered humorous. Such material is not meant to be taken seriously. per nom. Panini📚 09:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Hungary Idan (username is Zvikorn) (talk) 10:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete I don't like it. --Heymid (contribs) 11:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY: could be a typo for Australia or Asturias. HotdogPi 13:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Australia, cause they're the same place right? Link20XX (talk) 16:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result was [33]. (non-admin closure) Aasim (talk) 00:43, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Super Mario Bros. 35
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Limited in March 31st, Now is March 32nd/April 1st--119.237.10.81 (talk) 05:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Fortnite Battle Royale and call it Mario X Fortnite. Panini📚 11:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy delete not just this article, but also all the ones in this two templates per WP:G3 and WP:HOAX, this clearly has never exist. Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 15:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Create Mario games #5-34 and #36-62. (63 is already a fangame.) HotdogPi 16:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- "So long eh Bowser." This game is no longer accessible after March 31st. --AlphaBeta135 (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- DELETE Nobody cares about a bloated Japanese videogame franchise. One is enough! Estheim (talk) 21:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Main Page
Replace it with DuckDuckGo--119.237.10.81 (talk) 04:50, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I would say don't delete the main page, but I am curious... (Oinkers42) (talk) 05:22, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Blow it up. Obviously not needed. -KAP03 (Talk • Contributions • Email) 05:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Nuke, revdel, and salt as it's long past time this garbage was removed from the site. Gimubrc (talk) 13:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)