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January 21[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 21, 2021.

Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to 2016 United States presidential election. --BDD (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2016 United States presidential election, which Trump vs. Clinton and Clinton vs. Trump already redirect to. The election is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC under that name. Additionally, this seems to have been the conclusion of a prior RfD. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to 2020 United States presidential election. --BDD (talk) 22:00, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2020 United States presidential election, which Trump vs. Biden and Biden vs. Trump already redirect to. The election is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC under that name. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 20:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Butcher of Queen's Road East[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G7. Thryduulf (talk) 02:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An extremely pejorative redirect to a living person's article. There is no information or any source in the article to explain why it redirects here, so it should be deleted. Nonetheless, I've listed it here instead of marking for speedy deletion in case the redirect's creator can shed some light on why this redirect exists. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 19:52, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - confusing; no indication what this refers to. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Nothing comes up on a Google search sans this redirect, and with neither "butcher" nor "queen" mentioned in the target article, I can't make heads or tails of this. Hog Farm Talk 04:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I created this re-direct, apparently. I am sure it was for a good faith reason, from a reliable source, but I cannot recall what now. Best it just goes, for proposer's reasons. Onanoff (talk) 07:42, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete presumably some sort of reference to Hopewell Holdings' involvement in real estate redevelopment at Queen's Road East, but as a nickname it seems to be entirely unused in English WP:RS, and the only even vaguely-similar nickname I can find in Chinese is [1]. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 10:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete creator of the redirect now recommends deletion. I have taken the liberty of tagging.--65.92.160.124 (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Climate Barbie[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 21:44, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search term. This isn't a widespread nickname for Catherine McKenna so much as it is an insult used by her political opponents; there isn't anybody who knows the phrase "Climate Barbie" who doesn't already know her actual name. It would be like having something from the List of nicknames used by Donald Trump redirect to the person in question (Low Energy Jeb et all exist, but redirect to the nickname page— not the person).

But don't just take my word for it: it's received a grand total of six pageviews in the past 30 days. — Kawnhr (talk) 19:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per WP:RNEUTRAL. Opponents calling McKenna "Climate Barbie" went on for several years while she was the Minister of the Environment, and there is a significant discussion of it and her reaction in the article. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 19:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:RNEUTRAL. Unlike with the other redirects mentioned, the principal discussion of this nickname on Wikipedia is on the person's article. Thryduulf (talk) 21:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per those above. This is the best we can do for readers searching this up. Note that six pageviews in 30 days is actually quite a decent amount – and deleting this redirect only serves to annoy those readers. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Digitalization[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 29#Digitalization

Earnil[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II: The Rise of the Witch-king. --BDD (talk) 19:06, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Term not included in target. Hildeoc (talk) 11:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 17:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The right to remain silent[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#The right to remain silent

2021 Washington D.C protests[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#2021 Washington D.C protests

Bush era[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Presidency of George Bush. WP:SNOW closure. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 13:29, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect could be confused with George H.W. Bush. I recommend disambiguating this redirect. Interstellarity (talk) 16:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Frederick the II of Prussia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article was briefly moved to the redirect on 22 Oct. 2020 by a vandal and now-banned editor. Using 'the' with Roman numerals is neither correct nor a usual mistake and so I propose it be deleted. Avilich (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete as relatively unlikely search term (due to the "the"), although I don't think the history really factors into this, so long as neither G3 nor G5 applies (which AFAICT they don't). -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 04:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Õÿö[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep and refine to Angélique Kidjo#Õÿö. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 13:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. 122.61.73.44 (talk) 06:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Yes it is; the nominator is lying. Õÿö is mentioned multiple times at Angélique Kidjo; there's even a subsection on it at Angélique Kidjo#Õÿö. What kind of mistaken nomination is this? Ss112 06:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Strong words—we all make mistakes. See WP:NPA and Hanlon's razor. --BDD (talk) 17:09, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @BDD: I would have been inclined to give this user more of the benefit of the doubt until I found they have repeatedly edited experienced users' talk page archives for no discernible reason, several of their edits looked like vandalism—including telling one editor "reverting all your edits", and leaving several all-caps rants as edit summaries. It's still a mistaken nomination. Ss112 18:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair enough. --BDD (talk) 18:50, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and Refine target to Angélique Kidjo#Õÿö. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and refine as above. I just cleaned up its entry at Oyo (disambiguation) AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Ôzaru[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Ôzaru

Ïbïtoso language[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 05:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. 122.61.73.44 (talk) 05:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Please make sure to check "what links here" (Special:WhatLinksHere/Ïbïtoso language) before nominating redirects for deletion. This is a dialect of Chamacoco that is mentioned in multiple academic publications, including Campbell (2012), a widely used standard listing of Amerindian languages. The target mentions it as Ebidóso, and Jolkesky (2016) spells it as Ibitoso. — Sagotreespirit (talk) 23:53, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Onian Li language[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Given the statement by the bot owner that this is a relic of a minor bot bug, this is effectively a WP:CSD#G7. ~ mazca talk 19:28, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as confusing. 49.48.134.8 (talk) 05:00, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete This has nothing to do with Livonian. 122.61.73.44 (talk) 05:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both. Seem to have been created by a bot, perhaps mistakenly or due to a bug? The bot claims to have taken the names from the ISO 639-3 doccumentation, but I can't see either of these names listed on their website. Searching the internet resulted in no hits for either of these names. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've alerted the bot operator to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (from bot owner). That is a bug, of sorts: ISO 639:l contains the entry "Liv(onian)", and the bot interpreted this in the same way as "Lama (Togo)" etc. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:46, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Ȫ, Ȭ[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Livonian language#Alphabet. signed, Rosguill talk 05:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Refine section to Livonian language#Alphabet. 49.48.134.8 (talk) 04:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Europe's last dictatorship[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep with no prejudice against refining further to Belarus#Elections. signed, Rosguill talk 05:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:
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Donald Trump's mental health[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Donald Trump's mental health

Gay Republican[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 05:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gay Republicans is a documentary film about four Log Cabin Republicans and the debate over gay marriage in the United States. I would retarget there. Cnilep (talk) 23:47, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seventyfiveyears (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A disambiguation page that was at 'Gay Republicans' and linked to the film and to Log Cabin Republicans, and had the various conservative LGBT articles in its See also section, was deleted about a month ago. Those things are not actually ambiguous as Wikipedia defines it, since they are not called Gay Republicans as such. I moved the film to that title after the DAB was deleted. Cnilep (talk) 02:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If not a DAB page then how about a WP:SUMMARYSTYLE article? LGBT and the republican party seems like a notable topic that could have it's own article. It could be structured in such a way to cover all the related topics above, e.g. History and party views; Legislative history; LGBT members; LGBT groups and organisations; Depictions in the media etc. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 09:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No primary topic or really any topic with this exact name, and the DAB relating to this title was deleted. Maybe if there was a similar DAB somewhere this could point at it, but I certainly don't think one should be created at this title, so given that I'd just delete it BlackholeWA (talk) 06:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – As others have pointed out, there's no useful target article. Here are the three Pages that link to "Gay Republican":
  1. Paul Koering: He is believed to be the first openly gay Republican elected official in Minnesota
  2. Ezola Foster: ... to protest its recognition of the Log Cabin Club, an organization of gay Republicans.
  3. The Mostly Unfabulous Social Life of Ethan Green: a controlling and even emotionally abusive gay Republican
(These links should be unlinked, or split into gay and Republican.) — Chrisahn (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Momala[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Momala

贺锦丽[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 05:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFOREIGN. I don't think Kamala Harris has any special relationship to the Chinese language or any Chinese-speaking countries.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  01:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. --Ahecht (TALK
    PAGE    ) 03:35, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:FORRED. 49.48.134.8 (talk) 04:17, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, Kamala Harris has an official Chinese name 贺锦丽 and it is not the phonetic transliteration of her English name, see. This name is pronounced as Hè Jǐnlì in Mandarin (Pinyin) or Ho6 Gam2-lai6 in Cantonese which has nothing related to her English name. If the discussion close as delete, please also delete 賀錦麗 as it is the Traditional Chinese variant of her name. Sun8908──Talk 04:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not a name she is known by. cookie monster (2020) 755 05:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep On the contrary, Kamala Harris does have a relationship to the Chinese language. Chinese is widely used in San Francisco, where she was District Attorney. SCMP is considered generally reliable, and this topic avoids the problem areas of the source. (Chinese Communist Party and Alibaba) and [10] does explain the why pretty well. Rklahn (talk) 06:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep: per above, keep if the name is added to the article. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Sun8908, per the article linked this clearly is a name that she's been known by, and is a specific, chosen Chinese name rather than a phonetic transliteration. Her selecting a Chinese name in connection with voters in the area makes this not the kind of thing WP:FORRED is trying to stop. If there's a good spot to mention it in the article, great, but it's a big article already that's only going to get bigger. ~ mazca talk 19:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Sun8908. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 05:00, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Sun8908. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 02:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Sun8908. Yeungkahchun (talk) 18:37, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete As her Chinese name is not well-known in English world, this redirect makes most of English speakers confused. If you do want to keep it, please add it in a suitable place first.--El caballero de los Leones (talk) 15:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • In most if not all scenarios, the reader will arrive at this redirect via searching it up – so they will already know that it is a name for Harris, and expect to be redirected to Harris' article. It doesn't matter that the redirect may confuse people who don't know about the name, because they are extremely unlikely to come across the redirect. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Sun8908 and my comment above. Gets good views as well. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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List of federal judges appointed by Joe Biden[edit]

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The result of the discussion was deleted by BD2412 with summary This is a recreation of a deleted page. There is also a duplicate article currently in the draft space. (I !voted below, but this is a purely procedural close, simply reflecting an administrative action that's already been taken.) (non-admin closure) -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 10:14, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This subject is not discussed at the target.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  01:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Then discuss it. There are already vacancies to be filled and candidates for nomination who have been mentioned. As soon as an actual nomination has been made (probably within the next week or so), we will move Draft:List of federal judges appointed by Joe Biden to that space. BD2412 T 01:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and WP:REDLINK. This directs readers to a page with no relevant information. As soon as Biden makes an appointment, which might be next week but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, then this title will be free for anyone to move a draft to. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:27, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per REDLINK. There's rarely a good reason for a "List of" title to redirect to a page that doesn't contain the relevant list. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 02:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There is currently a version of the article in the draft space, and the article has been deleted. I move that we close this discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikehawk10 (talk • contribs) 05:51, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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