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February 10

Correction of Swimming 2010 at the Youth Olympics

I need your help to make correction about Swimming at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics – Girls' 4 × 100 metre medley relay. And I used a reference of Olympedia. Can you do that? 100.2.114.167 (talk) 04:44, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! Looks like you already made your edits to the Swimming at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics – Girls' 4 × 100 metre medley relay article. You may be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_361#Olympedia, which also links to a previous discussion. The best place to discuss the article and the source is the article's talk page: Talk:Swimming at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics – Girls' 4 × 100 metre medley relay. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:29, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Crown Heights riot

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I’m using the Crown Heights Riot to highlight an issue.

The Crown Heights riot is considered a Black American riot. It has nothing to do with Black Americans. This type of slander happens everyday. Two South American children were hit by a Jewish man's car. A Jewish ambulance assisted the Jewish driver and passengers. The SOUTH AMERICAN children were left under the car dying. This caused an IMMIGRANT from TRINIDAD to be angry and seek revenge by killing an innocent Jewish man with no relationship to the accident. The media knew Gavin CATO was a South American boy. Guyana is not America's 51st state. How is he Black American? It's a Caribbean and South American versus Jewish riot. The facts did not fit the narrative of Black Americans attacking Jewish people. How do we correct fake news? 2600:8802:3A12:E700:CD98:4710:36DD:848C (talk) 05:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! As you were told at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Wiki Administrators needed, you may post your suggestions for improving an article at the article's talk page - in this case Talk:Crown Heights riot. I suggest you be specific in your request, such as: "Please change the sentence __________________ with the sentence _____________ because ________________ per the following reference ______________." GoingBatty (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

IP user, you've been told how to proceed, and told that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say about a topic. If the sources are summarized accurately in a particular article, but those sources are in error with how they describe an event, your issue is with those sources, not us. If you want to wage a large societal battle to change how past events are described, this isn't the place to start doing so- this is the place to finish. Wikipedia does not lead, it follows, with how things are described. Please read WP:RGW. Please either do as suggested- propose specific changes based in what sources say about a topic- not your personal opinion- or move on from this. 331dot (talk) 09:47, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Cross-posted a third time, at WP:VPM#I’m using the Crown Heights Riot to highlight an issue. Mathglot (talk) 11:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I understand that Wikipedia follows. I just wanted feedback. To clarify, a South American boy is described as a Black American to push a false narrative that Black Americans are rioting. 2600:8802:3A12:E700:CD98:4710:36DD:848C (talk) 11:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

He was Black, and he lived in the USA. His parents were immigrants, but do we know that he himself wasn't born in the USA? Or that he was of Amerindian rather than African ancestry? Guyana is in South America, and was partly populated by slaves imported from Africa, just as the USA and other North and South American countries were – its population is defined as nearly 30% African. You seem to be insisting on a definition of "Black American" that is much more restrictive than that accepted by many other people. I am aware that this is an area of active contention, but Wikipedia is not the place to push an agenda and attempt to right great wrongs, nor should you use a particular article to WP:Coatrack an issue. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.141.181 (talk) 16:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

This is all moot, because the article does not claim that Cato was an American. I suspect the OP is talking about something they read somewhere other than Wikipedia. CodeTalker (talk) 17:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

• Is there a reason why this discussion is happening here and not at Talk:Crown Heights riot? --Jayron32 16:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Deane Waretini

The page on this singer says he grew up in 'Horuhoru' but this is an uninhabited rock near Auckland. The writer probably meant Horohoro, a rural area near Rotorua. 151.210.164.125 (talk) 08:15, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

This should be raised on the talk page Talk:Deane Waretini. Wikipedia is off the hook on this one if it is wrong, because it says Horuhoru in the sourcing at [1].--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

hello i would like to know why my article i uploaded hours ago became a redirect page to lao central airlines (the article i made was lao capricorn air)

my article about an airline of laos became a redirect page to another airline and i would like to know why CARLITOAHUISA (talk) 09:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@CARLITOAHUISA: It was blanked and redirected by @Mccapra due to a lack of notability. ––FormalDude (talk) 09:37, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes that’s correct. The new article didn’t include any verifiable information that wasn’t already in the other article. Articles about companies must meet the standard set out in WP:NCORP. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 12:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

thanks. CARLITOAHUISA (talk) 12:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

also is it reversible or not, i would appreciate it if it was a draft instead of a redirect page CARLITOAHUISA (talk) 03:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

also i will try my best to improve the article CARLITOAHUISA (talk) 03:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done – robertsky (talk) 12:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Unable to edit Notes section - Alexander Bolshunov

I wanted to correct a grammar error in a Notes entry on an article but when I clicked Edit there was nothing shown except: ==Notes==

Part of the Note says: `athletes from Russian and Belarus...`. It should say `athletes from Russia and` or `athletes from the Russian Federation and`. But I don`t know how to correct it. Is it a standard Note that is applied to several articles and so cannot be changed on an individual article. If I can`t fix it, can somebody else? Yameogo (talk) 10:37, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Which article are you working on? Meters (talk) 10:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Sorry just updated title to show Alexander Bolshunov. Yameogo (talk) 10:44, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

The "Notes" section on Alexander Bolshunov is actually footnotes. That section cannot be edited directly. The only footnote is coming from the level 4 subsection "Season standings" of the "Cross-country skiing results" section. The note would have to be edited there. Meters (talk) 10:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

fixed. Meters (talk) 10:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Yameogo (talk) 11:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

WHY is there not a obvious dark mode

enough is enough just put in dark mode dos350legit (talk) 13:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

There are some workarounds noted at Wikipedia:Dark mode. See if one of those works for you.--Jayron32 13:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect company title on google search result

Good afternoon,

I work for a company called igus and we have noticed an issue with our search results on google.

When someone types "igus" we appear as an Agriculture company on the right hand side of the google search results. This is incorrect. I am told this data is taken from Wikipedia so please can this be changed to manufacturing please.

Thank you.

Kind regards, Jade Ukmarketingservicedesk (talk) 13:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Ukmarketingservicedesk You will have to take up issues about Google searches with Google, we have no control over that. There should be a feedback link on Google. 331dot (talk) 13:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Pardon me, but do you mean to imply that Google might actually be responsive?? Uporządnicki (talk) 13:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Google is unlikely to be responsive. But we don't have a duty to adjust our data to compensate for their failings. Maproom (talk) 14:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

More to the point; if Wikipedia's articles aren't wrong, we can't do anything about what Google does. --Jayron32 15:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Ukmarketingservicedesk When I search for "igus" (from the UK) I get a right-hand panel which shows

igus is a German manufacturer and distributor of technical products made of high-performance plastics, including plastic plain bearings, flexible cables, energy chains, connectors, robotic components, 3D-printed products and ball bearings. Wikipedia

There's also a logo, and a map, and photograph for igus UK Limited, Caswell Rd, Northampton NN4 7PW.

Incidentally, I note that your Wikipedia username may not be valid: see WP:ISU. Bazza (talk) 15:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

(I see it's already been blocked. Bazza (talk) 15:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC))

@Ukmarketingservicedesk: A text paragraph which ends with a link on "Wikipedia" was copied from Wikipedia. All other parts are assembled by Google with unspecified sources, often not Wikipedia. "Agriculture company" is in the heading of the Google box and the word "Agriculture" does not appear in our article igus so it is not from us. There is a "Feedback" link where you can report incorrect information. I don't know how Google processes feedback and if you write something then it's uncertain it will ever be read but if many people just mark a field as incorrect then maybe they will change or remove it. I have marked it as incorrect to get started but it's not Wikipedia's responsibility to fix Google errors. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:05, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

It's not Wikipedia's responsibility, and we don't have the ability to make such changes. David10244 (talk) 08:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Entries for Filipino versus Tagalog.

Is there a project underway to create entries in Filipino? I see that there are quite a few entries in Tagalog but very few in Filipino, one of the two national languages (along with English) of the Philippines. Purslane (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

In Filipino language it is described as "a standardized variety of Tagalog". Looking at Filipino language#Comparison of Filipino and Tagalog there doesn't seem to be scope for two separate Wikipedias, but the place for any discussion would be at tl: rather than here on enwiki. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

There is a Wikipedia written in Tagalog language, if that's what you are looking for or describing, use this link. I don't believe any others exist. -- StarryNightSky11 ☎ 01:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Walk on By

I would like to add to the list of people who have covered Burt Bacharach’s song “Walk on By”. The great Laura Nyro performed the song at a concert in Japan in 1994. An album of the concert was released in the US in 2021 by Omnivore Recordings. It was also included on her album “Angel in The Dark”. She began work o this album when she was diagnosed with cancer in 1994-95. In accordance with her wishes, the album was released in 2001, after her death in 1997. 67.213.20.120 (talk) 23:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. These details are included at Angel in the Dark, so you could use its citations to add the information to Walk On By (song). Make sure you add reliable citations, which the latter article is short of. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)