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Jonathan King matter[edit]

Thanks for your reply on Talk. Both the Glitter and Harris matters are clearly listed in the lead, irrespective of their previous careers. A conviction of this seriousness generally trumps all other considerations on Wiki. To say he had a music career before he became a convicted child sex offender is essentially to say that Hitler was excellent with motorways before he started a war. I don't know if you want to kick this one up to mods, or request an RfC, but I must say it seems very odd. The (massive) lead seems almost an attempt to frustrate the inclusion of this absolutely essential information; which, by any metric, belongs in the lead. (talk) 14:10, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is a talk page matter for Talk:Jonathan King, so I can't go into great detail here. With the King/Glitter/Harris articles, there is a long standing consensus not to say "He's a paedo/sex offender" in the opening sentence. This is because the WP:LEAD establishes why a person is notable before introducing the controversies. As I've said before, if Paul Gadd from Banbury had committed sex offences, he would not have a Wikipedia article. The notability for the sex offences comes from the fact that Paul Gadd from Banbury is better known as Gary Glitter the glam rock star. The WP:LEAD is designed to be read in full over several paragraphs and is not a short description in the style of a Google search result.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Draft was Deleted.[edit]

My Draft Article duely name as Draft: Abad Mehmood Ali (Advocate was deleted) and considered to be promotional. Hafiz AALC (talk) 09:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As a general rule, you should not attempt to create an article about yourself or someone you work for on Wikipedia. See also your first article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:53, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]