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The result was redirect to State funeral. No need to drag this out, the only disagreement here being on the most appropriate redirect target. I selected State funeral, but if another target is judged more appropriate, that can be discussed on the talk page. Randykitty (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I was mistaken in my AFC acceptance. Redirect to List of people who have received a state funeral. This is not a true disambiguation page. It's really an incomplete list and a POV fork. Please accept my apologies. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 23:42, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. There are Greek sources, but no one here is able to evaluate them. If someone is able to read them, they can either add the sources to the article or renominate it for deletion if they conclude that WP:SIGCOV is not met. King of ♥ 03:35, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Centre for the Study of Traditional Pottery (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced for 14 years. I tried searching with its 3 names and only got 1 gnews hit for the first name. Unless someone can find coverage in Greek, I'd reconsider. LibStar (talk) 22:41, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I used way back machine on the official website to find the name in Greek: "Κέντρο Μελέτης Νεώτερης Κεραμεικής". A search of that in Google books identified many sources, but I can't use google translate on them. I added what I could find, two passing mentioned and a very long piece written in collaboration with the subject. My perception is that it is notable, just not written about much in English, we really need someone who can read Greek to look at Google books. I favour not deleting, but I cannot say it meets WP:GNG, as I do not know. CT55555(talk) 05:21, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:PROF. Unreferenced. Reads like a resume. Geoff | Who, me? 22:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Salvio giuliano 21:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article fails WP:GNG Simione001 (talk) 21:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Other than being the nephew of Tim Cahill this guy is not notable. Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - article is supported by numerous reliable independent sources, so easily passes GNG.--IdiotSavant (talk) 01:45, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- sources include significant coverage from national newspapers, local new sources, and international websites. --Gri3720 (talk) 13:13, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I am leaning towards keeping the article based on [2], Southampton wouldn't gave a testimonial match to a nobody, they gave him one on 16 May 1982. [3], [4] that is interesting, as that suggests there maybe more media and news on this person from the South coast outfit. Mentioned in The Times. Mention in the Southampton Daily Echo. That's just a start of what I have uncovered and I bet there is more. Govvy (talk) 22:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - I cant read the times article due to paywall so im not sure how much of a mention he gets but the first link is a player profile on the clubs website and as such is not an independent source. The second link is to a match day program cover... not sure how that satisfies WP:GNG and the other link is a brief twitter post confirming the testimonial match you are refering to which also doesn't really satisfy WP:GNG either in my opinion. Simione001 (talk) 23:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • Reply Umm, the saintsplayers.co.uk website (the first link) is independent of the football club, it's actually run by an author/historian who has written books in association for the club and players. He describes the websites as a wiki, but because of its oversight its deemed reliable. Govvy (talk) 09:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination. But it's close, I think BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 02:23, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Unlike today, when even a 17-year old football "starlet" gets plenty of press coverage, enabling them to pass WP:GNG, players in the 1940s rarely got such coverage apart from routine match reports. Does that make them all a potential subject for deletion? The article on saintsplayers.co.uk is a copy of the entry for Horsfall in the meticulously researched "All The Saints" published by Hagiology in 2013. If this article is deleted, then Wikipedia will end up having nothing about football players before the internet era, but will happily have articles about youngsters who have not achieved anything of lasting merit. Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 13:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Per Govvy and Daemonickangaroo2018. There is definitely offline coverage of him, such as here. Played for Southampton, a team currently in the English Premier League. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 19:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per reasons and sources above which show notability, although I note that the current PL status of the club is irrelevant. GiantSnowman 10:27, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:21, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 09:23, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article about a television series not properly sourced as passing WP:TVSHOW. To be fair, this article was first created at a time when Wikipedia's inclusion criteria for TV shows conferred an automatic presumption of notability on any TV show that could be properly verified to exist -- but the criteria have since been tightened up to require third-party coverage about the show in sources independent of itself as independent verification of its significance. This, however, doesn't have that and never did, as it was just an interstitial feature that aired in commercial breaks between programs, and thus never received any non-trivial coverage in its own right. Even on a WP:BEFORE search of ProQuest, I just get one glancing namecheck of its existence in local human interest coverage of a collector geek who appeared on it once -- and otherwise I just get accidental text matches on house fires starting in basements, which obviously don't help at all. So this was a good faith creation by the inclusion standards of 2006, but it just doesn't have the coverage needed to pass the stricter inclusion standards of 2023. Bearcat (talk) 21:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved from draft without submitting, fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. no significant coverage in the sources, just passing mentions and listings. Theroadislong (talk) 21:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. Consensus (albeit slim) is that it's too soon, but the draft window will bring is closer to the season start date and in that status, folks can update it and move when sourcing/info is sufficient. Star Mississippi 03:29, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article lacks notability. No source specifically mentions Napoli next season. No announced matches or deals concluded. It's too early to write an article before some things become clear. Sakiv (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sakiv: They have confirmed a spot in the next season of the Serie A. Why do we need to wait until a transfer happens or a match is announced for us to create the article? The fact that they have a 2023-24 season and will participate in said competitions is undeniable. Unless you want me to provide a source that they qualified? Mwiqdoh (talk) 20:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or Draft Should probably have been left in draft space for a bit, but article is needed. Pointless in deletion and pointless AfD. Govvy (talk) 20:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    If you had followed a little, you would have seen that I sent it to draftspace first but then they objected. Had no option after that. Sakiv (talk) 15:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Italy. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:18, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or userfy, obviously WP:TOOSOON for such a page, we are in the middle of the 2022–23 season, there is nothing certain about the next season (except saying they will be in Serie A, which is quite pointless). The page is basically empty of contents (the only meaningful content is the list of players, who actually are the 2022–23 season players). Also no secondary sources exist about the Napoli next season except rumors and speculation articles. Cavarrone 07:15, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cavarrone: Generally speaking, the various notability criteria that guide editors in creating articles require that the topic being considered be itself verifiable in independent secondary reliable sources. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, nor is it a collection of unverifiable content. It is an encyclopedia that must be reliable. If sources do not exist, it is generally too soon for an article on that topic to be considered. What part of this does the article not follow? The article has independent secondary reliable sources (Football Italia and Siempre Milan). Mwiqdoh (talk) 09:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Also I just added a source specifically about the 2023/24 season of Napoli. Mwiqdoh (talk) 09:15, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
None of them is significant coverage about the 2023–24 S.S.C. Napoli season. "Napoli" is not even mentioned in the two legitimate articles, even if a trivial mention would not change things too much, while this is a joke, it not even an article (it is a database entry) and claiming this is the 2023–24 list of players is pure crystal ball (these are the 2022–23 season players, period). So "If sources do not exist, it is generally too soon for an article on that topic to be considered" applies. Cavarrone 09:20, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cavarrone: Players are not going to switch clubs because the transfer window is closed, they can't switch clubs. There is not going to be a change in the squad except those people on loan. Mwiqdoh (talk) 09:22, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense. The 2023-24 season will start on 20 August, there will be a 2 month market window by then. Frankly, based on your replies here, I wonder if you have any basic competence to edit such articles. Cavarrone 09:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cavarrone: No it does not start on 20 August that's absolutely ridiculous! Look at any 2022–23 season article they include transfers on June and July of 2022 + almost every team plays pre-season matches in July! So are you telling me those July pre-season matches go in the previous article? Mwiqdoh (talk) 09:35, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if you have any basic competence to edit such articles Looking at your contribution history, it looks like you have never touched a club season article. Mwiqdoh (talk) 09:38, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, the pre-season (there is a "pre" suffix meaning "before" for a reason, I bet) matches in July! BTW "Look at any 2022–23 season article they include transfers on June and July of 2022", enough said about the claim that the transfer window is closed and this one will be the 2023-24 players list. And when I talk about competence, I talk about competence about recognizing significant coverage, recognizing reliable sources, understanding WP:NOT and so on. Also please read WP:BLUDGEON. Cavarrone 09:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete Once more information is available specifically about the upcoming season, the article can likely be recreated in April.--Sakiv (talk) 11:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the nomination is already considered a delete vote unless you state an alternative in the nomination. You are free to expand your rationale with further comments in the discussion but you are not able to "vote" again and can be seen as disruptive to the process. I have struck the delete comment that rest of the statement is fine. Please read through WP:AFDFORMAT in the when participating section point 5 which states '"Nomination already implies that the nominator recommends deletion (unless indicated otherwise), and nominators should refrain from repeating this."' McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 15:41, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Govvy and McMatter are correct. As the nominator, it is automatically assumed that you are !voting to Delete the article. Posting another !vote is therefore inappropriate. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 16:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My God, yes, what I did was wrong, but what the editor above did by trying to win over another editor who has full freedom to express his opinion is acceptable. Sakiv (talk) 16:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep No point of deleting as the article is clearly a notable subject and the 2023/24 season is only a few months from now. No longer a CRYSTALBALL as they have confirmed a position in Serie A and their participation in 2023/24 is confirmed. Mwiqdoh (talk) 11:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to draftspace as WP:TOOSOON and the article is not good enough for mainspace. We already have way too many empty abandoned season articles for 2022-23 seasons (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Empty club season articles, we don't need to start doing the same for 2023-24 seasons. Wait until there is significant news coverage of this season e.g. once the 2022-23 season has ended, and there's some actual fixtures, transfers to report. Right now, we have a 2022-23 current squad list, and that's it. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:21, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It's next season. I'm fine with having the shell already there. It's not like we're talking about the 2037-2038 season or something; having shell articles for the upcoming season seems perfectly reasonable and I have no qualms with this; its fully expected that a top-flight Serie-A team will pass GNG easily. It's not worth deleting an article which in a few months will just get recreated. --Jayron32 16:25, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep (in mainspace) Its a season that starts in less than six months and the club has already secured a place in top flight. Per WP:CRYSTAL, scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place, which is certainly the case here. Frank Anchor 16:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify or delete. Everything but the fact that they'll play next season is speculation (and even that may depend on e.g. not going bankrupt or some scandal emerging). The name of the coach, players, ... should all be removed as uncertain. This would leave us with an empty shell. Rushing to create these articles the day it is certain that the team will not be relegated should be strongly discouraged. Fram (talk) 09:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify wait until the current season matches have finished. GiantSnowman 10:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify or userfy look like the best options to me. I also think it was a bit too soon to create this page, but at least the basic elements are okay, so we could just keep it under cover until June or July (which isn't too far away), when the first details about the squad and transfers will be available. Oltrepier (talk) 11:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify per Fram. Not much sense deleting it now since it is almost certain to happen, but not needed in mainspace just yet. The WordsmithTalk to me 03:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of FIFA Women's World Cup goalscorers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested PROD. Reason for PROD: "For the same reasons as at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of FIFA World Cup goalscorers and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of UEFA European Championship goalscorers. WP:NOTSTATS". Natg 19 (talk) 20:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no indication this company is notable. Of the refs, the Techco one has a couple of paragraphs within a list of companies and USA today makes a passing mention so slight it carries no significance. Nothing significant was found by searching either, apart from reports of its acquisition (also the third ref), and that was by a company that itself has yet to be shown to be notable. The article itself does not really have a lot to say about the company either - in a little over five years it has hardly expanded beyond just a stub. Dorsetonian (talk) 20:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of National Football League players with multiple 1,000-yard receiving seasons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:OR. I tried to salvage this list article last week but the only source available is StatMuse. StatMuse is an AI tool which allows you to use "conversational search" to find statistics that match a question you enter (some have suggested this site functions like a chatbot). Hey man im josh (talk) 19:14, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I oppose merging due to the indiscriminate and trivial nature of this list. Frank Anchor 03:31, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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It sounds like company guff, although I haven't been able to find a copyvio. No refs on the page and there are few refs that I can find, none which seem good enough to meet the GNG. WP:NOTADVERT JMWt (talk) 19:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pegasus Bridge (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about an apparently never-completed film, not reliably sourced as the subject of enough coverage to pass WP:NFILM in the absence of ever having been finished or released. As always, Wikipedia does not want to indiscriminately maintain an article about every single film that enters the production pipeline without regard to whether it ever comes out the other end as a finished film or not -- but according to the article, funders backed out in 2017 and alternative new funders were sought out, and this has had an "update" tag on it since 2019 without ever being updated with any new information to indicate that it was ever resurrected.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation in the future if it ever actually does get completed, but the amount of production coverage shown here is nowhere near sufficient to earn a never-released film any sort of permanent "notable as a failed production" pass. Bearcat (talk) 17:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm not finding any significant coverage or recent coverage at all. Kind of hard to search for because the movie is named after a historical location but I don't think its out there... Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Other than having a famous sister, there isn't really anything notable about her. Only 6 acting credits according to IMDB, with the most recent one being a short film nearly 25 years ago. As far as producing, she only has 2 projects that have been released, neither of which are notable. JDDJS (talk to mesee what I've done) 16:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pay-TV series doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG - lacks nonWP:ROUTINE coverage in independent sources. MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:47, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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These sources on this page have enough coverage. 103.102.138.10 (talk) 23:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 16:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I've PRODed this with "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." It was deprodded now by User:Mast303 with edit summary "this article is fairly long". To that, I'll reply that WP:ITSLONG is not a particularly strong argument, we will need better then this. Otherwise, the best I can recommend is to redirect this to the List of Power Rangers characters. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:26, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the article is suffering from a bad case of all-plot-summary, but they are incredibly long-running characters and the sourcing demonstrates that they are considered popular and iconic. By the way I’m about as neutral as it’s possible to be because I know next to nothing whatsoever about power rangers. Dronebogus (talk) 09:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. With two "keep" !votes and 1 "delete" !vote (the nom), I am closing this as "no consensus". Given the low participation (even after 3 relists) no prejudice to a re-nomination in 1 or 2 months. Randykitty (talk) 16:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Left Front candidates in the 2019 Indian general election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:Notability and seems to be WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Not notable enough to be a separate article. Left Democratic Front based on Kerala won 1 seat and the content is already covered in 2019 Indian general election in Kerala. Similarly, 4 other left-wing candidates won in Tamil Nadu under DMK alliance, which is already covered in separate article. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 05:29, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep : This article consists of left front candidates. This article is not WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Although the page is for candidate list only, the result (won/lost) is written. XYZ 250706 (talk) 11:26, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. While noting that there's no policy for the speedy keep, which is moot anyway since the discussion had been running for approximately two weeks at that point, there is no consensus here and no indication a fourth relist will bring upon any. If further discussion is needed, perhaps the Talk page or a relevant project might find more eyes. Star Mississippi 03:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG. Reference 1 is its own website, reference 3 is a 1 line mention, reference 4 is a tourist guide listing and reference 5 is a directory listing. Previous AfD is here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kite Museum. LibStar (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is third nomination for deletion of this article, under slight variations in name. Deletion nominator mentioned first (2015) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kite Museum but not Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kite Museum (Melaka) of 2020. All three nominations by same editor. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 22:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. I don't like to do this, and I very rarely do so, but deploying WP:IAR here (which is what WP:ITSAMUSEUM also does, I think) and say that museums are exactly the sort of content that almost always is a net major positive to an encyclopaedia, plus the difficulty in searching Malay sources. The several brief mentions in books is a bit like WP:BASIC for biographies, but applies to museums. My sources:
  1. Frommer's Singapore & Malaysia. (1998). United States: Macmillan.
  2. The Guide to Melaka. (2004). Malaysia: Melaka State Government & Leisure Guide Pub.
  3. Starostinetskaya, A., Pikovsky, F. (2019). Off Track Planet's Southeast Asia Travel Guide for the Young, Sexy, and Broke. United States: Running Press.
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Are these sources just listings in travel guides rather than indepth coverage? LibStar (talk) 23:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They are nothing more than "brief mentions". CT55555(talk) 18:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Plane in adjacent Coronation Park
  • Comment. It has a separate article, and keeping and developing seems fine. It would be wonderful to expand Wikipedia's coverage of museums in Malaysia, but merging two museums out of 3 which have a presence in one building, and with at least one of these having substantial presence elsewhere, does not appear to make sense to me. People's Museum is complicated; its relationship to the Beauty Museum and to the Kite Museum (Malacca) is unclear (the creator of one or all 3 articles commented in the 2015 AFDs why they decided to keep them separate, though). Also not there is an adjacent park Taman Bunga Merdeka (formerly Coronation Park) which includes railway car(s) and planes; the "transportation section" of the park is part of the People's Museum. In 2015 in conclusion of three AFDs the current deletion nominator was strongly recommended to open a wp:MERGE discussion but did not. All three AFDs that had been opened by this editor then were closed "Keep". Subsequent AFDs opened by deletion nominator in 2020 include: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kite Museum (Melaka), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Petaling Jaya Museum, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melaka Transportation Museum, which were all closed "Keep". The latter discussion uncovered connection of People's Museum to the planes and trains. Note also Ayer Keroh article includes a table of museums in part of Malacca. It would be good to create expand treatment of museums in List of museums in Malacca and List of museums in Malaysia by making tables and including photos and descriptions. However, having a list-article row does not preclude having separate articles where there's more information. And currently there's more information in the separate article than is included in the list-articles' rows for this museum. "Keep" is how I !voted above, and what I recommend, unless and until there is someone seriously developing sensible treatments. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 11:32, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete and redirect to Bigg Boss (Hindi season 16). Given the history, I am deleting this before redirecting and will protect the redirect. Randykitty (talk) 15:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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repeatedly created and rejected in draft space then in mainspace following the win on reality competition "people stuck in a house" Bigg Boss 16. No other notability besides that win, so does not meet WP:ENT (requires multiple lead roles in shows/films) or WP:MUSICBIO (notable albums and songs). Recommend redirect to Bigg Boss 16. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 15:19, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2020) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is basically a repeat of the official statements from the Chinese government, not an article based on reliable, independent sources. I don't think a timeline for this region can be made based on such sources though, as the Chinese government tends to be rather controlling. But it is better not to have an article, than to function as the mouthpiece of a government. Fram (talk) 14:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to St. Louis Maroons/Indianapolis Hoosiers all-time roster. Randykitty (talk) 15:52, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Played once for a Major League Baseball team. Almost no Information the page, the databases have little else. Not notable, no refs that meet the GNG. JMWt (talk) 14:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Since this John Fogarty played baseball at the highest level, his name with “(baseball)” after it is a very reasonable search term. Frank Anchor 04:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. I see a Weak Keep but a Keep, nontheless that includes new sources. Liz Read! Talk! 04:45, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep due to WP:BASIC plus difficult to understand the deletion rationale. I find "fails WP:GNG" to be very short as an explanation and in the context of it obviously being possible to find lots of coverage about her, I would like to understand specifically how she fails WP:GNG and why the resources that we find in searches are not suitable.
I consider WP:BASIC to be passed due to the numerous sources that talk about her modelling and acting career and lupus advocacy. Some sources I found that support this:
  1. Gunter, B. (2014). I Want to Change My Life: Can Reality TV Competition Shows Trigger Lasting Career Success?. United Kingdom: Cambridge Scholars Publisher.
  2. Jet Magazine, Cover Story, Mar 1, 2004 - Page 55, Vol. 105, No. 9
  3. https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/g25575616/americas-next-top-model-best-contestants/
  4. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/peloton-ad-star-of-peloton-bike-commercial-appears-in-new-ad-for-aviation-gin-posted-by-ryan-reynolds-2019-12-07/
Some of these are tabloid, hence the "weak" CT55555(talk) 16:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to University of Calicut. Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SAFI Institute of Advanced Study (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Was deprodded without improvement (although a rationale was provided on the talk page). I agree with the prodder, "Non-notable institute, no significant coverage in independent sources. Cited sources are either promotional or non-reliable." Searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 11:02, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP; written as an advert. The only two working references are to the company's own website. While not a reason for deletion, 'What links here' indicates no links to the article other than redirects from variations on the article name. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Basically a G6. Randykitty (talk) 15:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regional 2 South East (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This rugby competition was previously known as London 1 South and was renamed Regional 2 South East in 2022. A new article was created at that title by what looks like a copy & paste from the existing article. This new article needs to be deleted to make room for a move on the old article. Bcp67 (talk) 12:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. No prejudice against creating appropriate redirects. Randykitty (talk) 15:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Pakistan Super League squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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We don't need separate articles for squad lists for each PSL tournament. The same squad tables are listed in the team articles e.g. Islamabad United in 2022, and the useful basic squad information is listed in the season article e.g. 2023 Pakistan Super League#Squads, with the changes listed in the player draft articles e.g. 2023 Pakistan Super League players draft. No need for a list of all the squads together in a separate article- generally we only do this for ICC World Cup events. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because the above applies to all PSL squad articles:

2022 Pakistan Super League squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2021 Pakistan Super League squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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2019 Pakistan Super League squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2018 Pakistan Super League squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Counties 1 Durham & Northumberland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This rugby competition was previously known as Durham/Northumberland 1 and was renamed Counties 1 Durham & Northumberland in 2022. A new article was created at that title by what looks like a copy & paste from the existing article. This new article needs to be deleted to make room for a move on the old article. Bcp67 (talk) 12:10, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fairprice Family Cook Off (season 2) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable TV show. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 11:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Lizthegrey (talk) 21:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]


National Tom Sawyer Days (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Orphan page, excessively promotional, no independent sourcing. Possibly could see merging it into Hannibal, Missouri where the festival allegedly still happens or into Mark Twain, but it's certainly no longer a "national" event, least of all one that meets WP:N. Lizthegrey (talk) 11:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dream Focus: Thanks for finding those. To get around the paywall I found an archived link for the NYTimes article and for the LATimes article. Lightburst (talk) 17:59, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:31, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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No citations, no specific claim to notability, no specific years played making this impossible to verify. google web search turns up no hits for `"Leo Murray" "bohemians" "ireland"`. Lizthegrey (talk) 10:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why do we think more time will help? This article has had the BLP sources template on it since March 2008. It can always be re-created if sources do turn up other than a single pamphlet/event programme that a fan says they had two decades ago which nobody else can verify. Lizthegrey (talk) 00:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article deleted after RPOD with reason "Non-notable publisher of non-notable journals. References are either in-passing mentions, trivial listings, or obvious press releases.". Article restored upon request of article creator without reason given. PROD reason still stands, hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the refences mentioned above, they also fail GNG/NCORP as follows:
Note that the three sources above also do not include in-depth information about the topic company, also fails CORPDEPTH. HighKing++ 14:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Salvio giuliano 21:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Asian-Australasian Journal of Bioscience and Biotechnology (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article deleted after PROD with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources discussing the journal in-depth (several don't even mention the journal). Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG.". Article restored upon request by creator, without reason given. PROD reason still stands, hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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All the matches on Google Scholar are false positives.

Two of the sources used in this article are mailing lists (cryonet.org and listserv.ru.ac.za).

All I could find are WP:PASSING mentions of this denomination in articles from February 2002 about its founder Freddie Isaacs having predicted his own death and still being alive after the announced date ([16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22]). The secondary sources Dispatch Online and The Herald Online in this article report the same event.

Health-e and IOL News used in the article also cover events related to Freddie Isaacs, but not to his denomination.

Therefore, this denomination does not meet WP:GNG nor WP:NCHURCH; so I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 08:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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not notable, puff piece, WP:AUTO violation. all of the cited awards/top X shortlist refs are obscure or from very narrow categories (e.g. "top 5 english language business books in China in 2013"); Forbes Contributor and HBR allow self-publishing. Lizthegrey (talk) 08:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The Forbes pieces are contributor pieces and written by her. The rest are simply interviews or repeating what's said elsewhere. Self promotion. Oaktree b (talk) 17:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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PROD was rejected, just gonna put what I wrote for that here:

"WP:DIRECTORY. Appears to only reach for notability for his Grammys (though he is among a long list of collaborators on all four of those projects) but the article severely lacks in prose and the subject severely lacks for SIGCOV (I saw interviews, including the Pitchfork one already here, but nothing else)."

User:Bri, who contested the PROD, says the Grammys should be worth a pass based on WP:NCREATIVE #4 ("has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work."), but as I said I wouldn't consider it a major role because he is "among a long list of collaborators on all four of those projects". QuietHere (talk) 01:34, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Rap albums have a lot of production credits. There is no threshold of number of Grammy winners when we start to ignore them. It's not up to me to decide "too many" and start deleting biographies of Grammy winners. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:27, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I would be more willing to go along with this if it weren't the only qualification this person has. Lemme put it this way: All three of the Kanye albums Kilhoffer has won Grammys for also include credits for Mike Dean. Looking at his article, I wouldn't begin to question his notability. He's worked on numerous major releases over the years in various capacities and has received independent coverage for his work for several major publications. The same can be said for several other artists involved in those projects, but it can't be said for Anthony Kilhoffer. Unless there's coverage that I didn't see in which case I'd ask you to link that here and prove me wrong, but until then this falls directly under WP:DIRECTORY. For a page that is just a discography and a list of awards, users should go to his AllMusic page instead. QuietHere (talk) 03:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    There are two main items in this discussion that require address.
    1. There is a potential bias/unfamiliarity issue that I’m seeing pop up in numerous conversations regarding notability of collaborators on hip hop projects. The nature of hip hop production is different from pop or rock genre writing that naturally includes a broader scope of collaboration. It does not dilute the contributions or significance of writer & producer contribution to hip hop songs or albums merely because there are more people on these albums than other genres. It toes a very dangerous line to assume that there is a difference in significance of contribution merely because it is a different genre of music (and in this case, a genre predominantly composed of black american artists carrying forward a unique cultural tradition).
    2. Anthon Kilhoffer is a significant contributor to the projects he’s worked on. There has been significant additional press on him (including interviews) in the years since this article was created. I will update the page, and no - it should not be deleted. Mistamystery (talk) 18:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mistamystery: Are you saying the article should be kept, then? Sorry to be pedantic but it has to be clear to the closer of this debate. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep notability is possibly seen through his rap albums and music achievements. I would not claim the subject is clearly not notable, so I lean towards keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mozzcircuit (talkcontribs) 11:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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For whatever it's worth, I still believe this article to be a blatant WP:DIRECTORY fail, and none of the responses have been about that. I stand by all the points I made above, both in my opening and in response to Bri, and have not seen a proper dispute of them. I'm surprised this got a relist, though perhaps Liz sees the same lack of proper counterarguments that I do. QuietHere (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Left a notice regarding this AfD at WikiProject Musicians. I suspect this is heading toward a no consensus close at the moment and I'd be more annoyed by that than a keep I disagree with, so hopefully more folks see this through that and we actually get somewhere worth all our time. QuietHere (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NOLY and WP:NGYMNAST. LibStar (talk) 05:18, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Lizthegrey (talk) 09:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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No sources or supplied reason why it might be notable. Lizthegrey (talk) 06:51, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Lizthegrey (talk) 21:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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No indications of why this place is notable. Lizthegrey (talk) 06:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NSINGER. Many of the sections are entirely unsourced. No significant coverage found. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 06:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:11, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unable to find significant coverage in any form, fails WP:NCORP while also reading as WP:PROMO fifteen thousand two hundred twenty nine (talk) 04:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The deletion rationale states "there's a chance it doesnt pass GNG", please only nominate articles that you are sure don't pass GNG. Liz Read! Talk! 03:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Pointed in the DYKN, and I struggled to find other sources, other than these few and the said suspected (Bergelora), so there's a chance it doesnt pass GNG Nyanardsan (talk) 01:41, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Long career, but no coverage in any sources found. Not seeing GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 03:18, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to World War II bomb disposal in Europe. Liz Read! Talk! 03:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Event with limited coverage. Old bomb found, people leave the area, bomb exploded, people return. No injuries, no property damage. Oaktree b (talk) 03:09, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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PRODded (courtesy @Courcelles:), which was challenged by creator. A BEFORE indicates a name change, but nothing approaching WP:ORG level coverage for this company. Star Mississippi 02:44, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Lacking indepth coverage to meet WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 01:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable company. Beyond having two famous founders, there is nothing about the brand. All PR releases or a mention in Glossy magazine, long way from CORP or even GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP. References are routine funding news, annoucements, PR. scope_creepTalk 00:42, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

* Delete: As per nomination. --- 👑Misterrrrr👑 (talk) 06:11, 15 February 2023 (UTC) blocked as a sock. Akevsharma (talk) 15:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails notability, he only participated at a World Championship without significant results and his so-called Asian medals are in youth categories and they are not seniors. whoever made the article (probably himself) didn't mention that. except his ICF profile you rarely can find any news about him anywhere. Sports2021 (talk) 00:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Joyous! | Talk 01:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:ORG. Could not find significant coverage, also searched by long name. 8 of the provided sources are its own website. LibStar (talk) 00:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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