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Speedy deletion : HelpIQ[edit]

Hello, I created a company page, same as all my competitors listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_authoring_tool I followed the same writing style and content that each of the competitors has including http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author-it but the page was deleted. I feel HelpIQ has the same right as the other companies to be listed. Please explain how the description of HelpIQ is different than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Author-it Thank you, Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:HelpIQ&oldid=454897107" Hidden categories: Noindexed pagesCandidates for speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlbrown 34 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Speedy deletion : ATEasy[edit]

{WikiRonnie (talk) 17:12, 23 September 2011 (UTC)} Hello Panyd. What copyright issue is there to delete the page? Can you explain? What do I need to restore it since I think Wikipedia should have article about this? I'm new to Wikipedia. Thanks.[reply]

Could you have a look at the above talk page? Thanks. Peridon (talk) 18:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looked, happy to see I was wrong. Unhappy to see that there are other issues at work. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:00, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
{WikiRonnie (talk) 19:28, 23 September 2011 (UTC)} What about the external links? They are IEEE and Nasa Tech Brief magazine. These are all reliable sources. I don't think it promotional since no benefits of using the product are mentioned, just facts that are known to me being an ATEasy user for many years. Any suggestion to restore instead of deleting it? Thanks.[reply]
Well, what would be a great idea is re-writing the article in your WP:Userspace, then asking others to review it before 'publishing' it. I'd be happy to take a look-see. Alternatively, you can use the article creation wizard to make another one from scratch. Either way, it'll need a rewrite to become ineligible for speedy deletion. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I made some changes to the wording and provide PDF links to the manuals instead of links to downloads as Peridon suggested. It in my User page. Any comments? Thanks. {WikiRonnie (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2011 (UTC)}[reply]

Thank you very much.[edit]

Thank you for protecting the Serer people article. Believe me I just want to edit with sources to the best of my ability. That's all I want to do. I don't like engaging in arguments. That's not what I am here for. Also it is so draining on my energy. Thanks again. Tamsier (talk) 20:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eron Falbo[edit]

Eron Falbo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I noticed you declined the IP request for the speedy deletion of this article. In your edit summary, you said: "May be a7able but isn't promotional in its entierty". In case you hadn't noticed, I wanted to bring to your attention that when the IP requested the delete, he specified both G11 and "Person fails to meet the relevant notability criteria", without specifying A7, which, of course, is actually a lower standard than notability. Subsequently, User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz removed the "notability" portion of the tag with the following edit summary: "remove invalid speedy, claim of "not notable" requires standard deletion process". I'm not sure if Hullaballo acted properly in taking it upon himself to change the tag, even though he was "correct" in his reasoning. Putting that aside, I just wondered if you would have taken the same action had the tag been the way it was originally clumsily presented.

As an aside, the article looks quite different now from the way it looked when you reviewed it because I stubbed it. Almost all of the material was unreliably sourced.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at it now I would A7 it. Sorry that I didn't see the tag earlier. My suggestion would be that you re-tag. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 11:42, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for looking at it again. I've retagged it.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of my article ABAS Software[edit]

Hi, you wrote on my page that I will need to rewrite the complete article ABAS Software so it will not be deleted again. Is that necessary even though it was only deleted because of a lack of sources? And if so, does rewrite mean to change some words or would I need to write a whole new article and find completle new sources? Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it!!! Sawa123 (talk) 11:25, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your article wasn't only deleted due to concerns about the lack of referencing. There were also concerns that the article was pure advertising, and as such I would suggest that you completely rewrite the article to allay these fears. If you need any more help, feel free to come back! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:11, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, that was not mentioned in the last deletion tag. I will try again. Thank you very much for your support! Sawa123 (talk) 09:32, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can I ask you one other thing!?! How can I write something when the page is logged? What do I have to do? Thanks! Sawa123 (talk) 13:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, a really good idea would be to use our submission system which will allow someone to review your article before it is 'published'. This also means that you can ensure it won't be deleted again (at least speedily). PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:02, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, ok I tried again with the submission system. However I made one mistake, I created the article under a wrong name [ABAS sotware]. And than I couln'd find where to change it so I resaved it correctly as [abas software]. I hope you can help me with that... And I also hope that this will be good enough now. I found many resources and it should not sound like an article!!! THanks eitherway!! Sawa123 (talk) 13:31, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey again, just to let you know, I think the Article Review guys are on this one. You will need more sources though. Good luck! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Panyd, could you help me with one thing. I cannot find the information about it, but I do not want to give up after I put so much effort into this. Can I use sources in other languages for this? Obviously there are many German sources, since it's a German company... But I am afraid it will not be accepted, if I only put the sources to my article. Thanks in advance! Sawa123 (talk) 08:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
German sources would be absolutely wonderful! We have many bi-lingual editors on the English Wikipedia who would be more than happy to verify them for you I'm sure. I can see you've mostly got blogs and web publications on the article at the moment. Unfortunately, taking a quick look at them, it doesn't look like they meet our verifiability standards. Have you got any newspaper articles which aren't based off of press releases? Those would be perfect, regardless of what language they were in.
Try and remember this gold standard from the verifiability page: Several newspapers host columns they call blogs. These are acceptable as sources if the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control. Keep that goal in your head when you pick sources and you should get further than you have thus far. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your efforts in eliminating unreferenced BLPs! joe deckertalk to me 17:00, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply] { }

Bedouin jewelry[edit]

Hi, You removed the CSD tag from this article stating that it has sufficient context. But I don't think it does. Besides the article was deleted once prior to its recreation by the author. Thanks, — Abhishek  Talk 06:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, the A1 tag is tricky. It means there isn't sufficient information/context on the page to guage what the page is about. Now this particular article, when I looked at it, had a full sentence describing exactly what the article was going to be about. That doesn't sound like it meets the A1 criteria to me. However, had it been deleted previously due to an AfD discussion that would be different and the tag should be changed to meet that criteria. However, I saw no evidence of that when I looked at the page; I was simply checking for A1 suitability. Does this make sense? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 11:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really sorry. I did not mean any offense here. I might have ended up tagging it wrong. But I just wanted to bring it to your notice that the page was deleted prior to my tagging it. Cheers! — Abhishek  Talk 17:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are a lovely person with good intentions. Never apologise for that. I am glad this has been resolved and if you have any questions about CSD tags in future feel free to some ask PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:05, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Thanks for using your mop on User:Arts Tasmania. Would you mind using it on that user's fine work Arts Tasmania too?   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 02:36, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Panyd, please consider not using {{UsernameHardBlock}} or {{uw-spamublock}} for situations like this; I assume we've driven away another potentially useful editor who probably needed information rather than a slap in the face. Personally, I wouldn't have blocked at all, given the fact that DGG was trying to talk to them, but at the very least if you thought it important to block them, I think this was crying out for a {{softerblock}}. IMHO, the report of this editor to AIV was inappropriate, although all too common; the same goes for the usernamehardblock/spamublock. These are needlessly aggressive for users who have not yet shown they're not willing to learn our rules.

This is a plea for you to consider my POV, not a correction or warning that you've violated a rule somewhere; you are definitely not alone in approaching new editors this way. But I think it it fundamentally at odds with the editing philosophy we should be trying to foster. --Floquenbeam (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

::I'm confused. I understand that you disagree with me, and I think there's room for that here. As I said to DGG, I've been wrong before, I will be wrong again, please do feel free to shoot me for it. Having said that, although I certainly think there's room for discussion, I am a little upset that you changed my block without telling me. Ok, I haven't been here for a few days and I can see you feeling the need to take what you feel is appropriate action quickly. As you said to me, you've broken no rules, this is just my POV, put please tell me in future.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of my actions above, but am perfectly willing to be swayed. You will also see with a quick scan that needlessly aggressive blocks are not my forte. You may be upset and feel that I didn't show appropriate courtesy to the user on this particular occasion but A) not showing me appropriate courtesy does not cancel that out and B) a disagreement should not mean we lose our manners. It is important for me to know these things.
On a last note though, thank you. I do really appreciate the feedback. I will certainly be more cautious in future, and I agree, the AIV report was silly. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm an ass. Ignore me. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my watchlist is an order of magnitude too large and I missed your response until now.
I know you struck it out, but just to be 100% clear, I don't think you make it a habit of making needlessly aggressive blocks; not at all. I just think that in these situations, the common response by many admins of a UsernameHardBlock and uw-spamublock is needlessly aggressive. Or perhaps better phrased: needlessly aggravating to the blocked user. Any frustration that leaked thru my comments was more directed at this all-too-common approach, rather than at you directly, so I'm sorry if I caused offense. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright permission[edit]

I have submitted copyright permission. Could you re-review my article? Johnadamsok (talk) 18:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you would please email me your OTRS ticket number I'll get that cleared up for you PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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India Scholarship[edit]

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This...[edit]

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Aww, you pair of cuddly kittens, you two. See WP:NOTDATINGSERVICE - and you're both admins!--Shirt58 (talk) 12:57, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween?[edit]

Hi, I noticed that the Halloween DYK sets have been prepared in Prep One and Two. I figure that any hook which mentions a ghost around this time of year was intended for Halloween; is that what you intended for James Kidd (prospector)? If so, that should be moved to one of those Preps soon. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 17:59, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love it if there was room for Mr Kidd in the Halloween DYK sets but I didn't think there was any left! If there's a dearth of paranormal articles for Halloween DYK then I'd love to assist. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:05, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, many previous DYK sets have had eight hooks, so I don't think it would hurt to do that for Halloween. Alternatively, a hook such as that for Robert Martensen in Prep 1 doesn't seem Halloween-y to me at all, so a swap could be done. In any case, I see you're discussing the subject on WT:DYK, so I guess it'll be decided there. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:03, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not be so patronising[edit]

The modern recognition of hallowe'en is a very recent development, with no religious, historical or social significance of any depth. That being the case, I think it is disproportionate to give it blanket coverage in this section of the main page. Regardless of whether you like the celebration, I think that deserves sensible consideration, not patronising edit comments. Do you actually wish to provide a rationale for giving this more attention in the DYK section than any of the other festivals that I mention? Kevin McE (talk) 21:36, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly wasn't my intent to be patronising. What it was my intent to be was flippant. It's been a long-standing tradition on WP to have blanket DYK coverage of Halloween. I certainly don't think Halloween (or I suppose if we wanted to look into it historically then Samhain) deserves specialist treatment. I am however, a very big fan of the holiday.
Rather than proposing that we demolish a tradition (which is rather hard to do), why not work with existing precident and argue for a theme with all major holidays? Of course the logistics of that would be rather difficult. For example, Halloween, though a recent edition to the calendar in its current form, is celebrated in all English-speaking countries, what precident is there for Thanksgiving? Kwanza and Divali are celebrated by sizable minority of English speakers, but are they sizable enough? But of course religious holidays have their own issues. Christmas and Easter of course, those are celebrated by billions of English speakers but Catholic and Jewish holidays roll around every month. Who are we to say that Easter is more important than Rosh Hashanah? Is Rosh Hashanah more important than Hannukah? Who decides and how and how many people's sensibilities will be offended along the way?
Of course none of these are insurmountable issues. It's just a question of whether the WP community is willing to take on such an enormous task and whether consensus could realistically be reached at the end of it. I'm not sure it could be. But that's my two cents. I assure you next time I will give you a more thorough answer and take your complaints more seriously. My apologies for any offence caused. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:55, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Liverpool geonotice[edit]

Feel free to do it yourself! Use "latlon tooltip" on Google Maps labs to help you find the coordinate of the corners of the geonotice. This map will give you all the currently-running geonotices to help you verify you're doing it correctly. :) Deryck C. 15:18, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for King House (Mayport, Florida)[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for James Kidd (prospector)[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

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Re:WikiProject Paranormal[edit]

I have edited some events pertaining to the paranormal, but in all honesty, it won't help said project if we delete pages that actually compile uncondensed information about fringe topics. DarthBotto talk•cont 18:32, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, we won't help the WikiProject or the credibility of paranormal articles by making some without taking into account the notability criteria of Wikipedia. Look at my DYKs at the top of this page (Demon Cat, Andrew Green (ghost hunter) etc). They have uncondensed information and stuck! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:40, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I admit that the Kodiak UFO incident is stuck, as well; it really deserved more attention, but for the most part, sci-fi fans and paranormal buffs, (maybe I'm one), gave it attention, which may have been detrimental.
I do digress, however, that seeing Beeblebrox go after this page is a big let-down for me; he practically haunted me four years ago. DarthBotto talk•cont 18:50, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm sorry about that, and as I said, I'm sorry I can't find any sources for it. It's like Black Eyed Kids. I want it to have an article, but it's just not notable by WP standards. Very notable in the fringe but their sources just don't count. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck and if you are literally being stalked just let me know (although I can't see any evidence of that atm). PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:12, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, the stalking thing isn't an issue or concern for me. It just seemed that this administrator was spending all his time canvassing me in the early days and it's disconcerting to run into this altercation with such a familiar subject. No, I'm sure it's not a problem, but I hope I don't run into him too much more. DarthBotto talk•cont 20:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the Kodiak Island UFO incident article is gone. That's one less article for the project; people could just as easily comb through and pick away the majority of the articles like this, the same way as esports. It pisses me off that Beeblebrox is just as easily here as he was four years ago, when he and I had our first round of arguments and only when he became an administrator did he see fit to shoot it down. It may not be relevant to you, but this article is the only inch he's ever going to get on me; with the measly coverage of the incident, I still outplayed his words and got the last laugh.
I'll keep supporting the project and wait until other articles with better resources but just as little notability get brought up on deletion; I'm going to keep on playing and tear them a new one, as well. Sir, you have a supporter for this project and thanks for you honesty! DarthBotto talk•cont 09:23, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe your understanding of WP:NOTDUP is mistaken. It describes how overlap of categories, lists, and navigation templates are not a reason to delete. It does not say that duplicating lists, content that exists in it's exact form in another list, is not a reason to delete. Futhermore, the "building a rudimentary list of links is a necessary first step" part can and should be done in the main article under there is content and consensus to WP:SPLIT. Please reconsider you're close.--v/r - TP 19:36, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please allow me to explain my interpretation of WP:NOTDUP, which I believe is in conjunction with the interpretations given in the AfD debate:
Developers of these redundant systems should not compete against each other in a destructive manner, such as by nominating the complementary work of their colleagues to be deleted just because they overlap. Doing so may disrupt browsing by users who prefer the list system. - I consider this to be self-explanatory. However, this is something that was brought up repeatedly by participants in the AfD debate. Although the List of North American "Occupy" protests overlaps with the main "Occupy" protests list, it is complementary in that it provides a more focused page for people who may be looking specifically for North American Occupy protests. Due to the size of the main page, this information may be lost, or at the very least is not easily navigable for people looking for this specific information.
Additionally, arguing that a Category or List is duplicative of the other in a deletion debate is not a valid reason for deletion and should be avoided. - I believe this does say that duplicating lists, content that exists in it's exact form in another list, is not a reason to delete.
Also, lists may be enhanced with features not available to categories, but building a rudimentary list of links is a necessary first step in the construction of an enhanced list—deleting link lists wastes these building blocks, and unnecessarily pressures list builders into providing a larger initial commitment of effort whenever they wish to create a new list, which may be felt as a disincentive. When deciding whether to create or avoid a list, the existence of a category on the same topic is irrelevant. - Allow me to explain this section in more detail. The original occupy list is so long, with so much information on it, that to make an enhanced list would be to sully the list itself. This is because the page simply cannot handle extra information bar nominal links to existing pages. However, the List of North American "Occupy" protests list page is concise enough to allow for a brief summary of every page, which would in this context qualify as an enhanced list. This would not only benefit those browsing the page, but also potentially allow us to take information off of the original Occupy list page and redirect the section to the List of North American "Occupy" protests page, which would shorten it and allow for more concise and accurate browsing by readers.
I hope this has answered your questions, and to my knowledge this interpretation of policy is correct and fitting with the arguments given in the AfD debate. However, if you still have concerns you feel I would not be amiable to, please feel free to bring the AfD up at deletion review where other editors can weigh in on my judgement. What I would ask is that you please post the above alongside your nomination there.
Have a good night and happy editing! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 05:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm, sorry, but it doesn't answer my question. Your interpretation is incorrect because the policy does not address categories that duplicate categories, or navigation templates that duplicate navigation templates, or lists that duplicate lists. The policy addresses lists that duplicate navigation templates and categories. It covers categories that duplicate lists and navigation templates. And it covers navigation templates that duplicate lists and categories. Per WP:NOTDUP: "arguing that a Category or List is duplicative of the other" (emphasis mine). "When deciding whether to create or avoid a list, the existence of a category on the same topic is irrelevant." (emphasis mine). Do you see now why your interpretation is incorrect? Relying on Northamerican1000's interpretation of any policy will undoubtably lead you astray. He doesn't understand the context of policies. He cherry picks sentences that suit him.
Your other argument about list size also doesn't apply here. The article containing the original list has not reached a size warrenting a split. Some simply reorganizing would make that article suitable for a comprehensive list. And besides, how deep do you plan to go? List of Occupy Protests in the United States? List of Occupy Locations in Oregon? List of Occupy Locations in Lane County? List of Occupy Locations in Eugene? List of Occupy Locations on Main Street? List of Occupy Locations Billy Joe Bob has gone to? We have a location to build a comprehensive list at List_of_Occupy_movement_protest_locations. When and if that list becomes large enough for an article split, this list can be recreated.--v/r - TP 12:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I officially nominate the following for the worst written sentence in the universe: Additionally, arguing that a Category or List is duplicative of the other in a deletion debate is not a valid reason for deletion and should be avoided.
Because, and I hope you'll see this, you can interpret this either way. You could either interpret that as how I originally did, or you can interpret it as you have. I would suggest that we take this to deletion review for further comment and then, with the arguments there, actually update this policy so that it makes it clear which interpretation is correct, because seriously, that's an awfully written sentence. Would that be ok with you? I'd like to work with you on it. The other can be seen as interchangable with another at the moment and I feel re-opening the debate with an emphasis on the interpretation of this sentence would be beneficial in stopping this from happening again. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We can sure do that. I'll go post it up.--v/r - TP 22:22, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2011_November_12. Thanks.--v/r - TP 22:31, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, sorry if I didn't make myself clear above. I've added my two cents to the DRV. Thank you so much for posting and look forward to fixing this with you! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 22:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The DRV closed a few weeks ago, but no one changed the wording at WP:NOTDUP, which I agree is non-ideal. Just wanted to let you know that I've made an attempt. —SW— yak 00:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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What happened?[edit]

See [1]. You deleted this hook set and it's now not on the main page, queue or prep lists. What's up? PumpkinSky talk 02:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I put it in Queue 2 (see here). The queue was then heavily edited by myself, User:Nikkimaria and User:Bencherlite. I can vouch for where my moved hook went (it's in another prep area/queue by now), not sure about the others but I trust that they are either at T:TDYK or in another prep area/queue. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 04:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Heavily edited"? It is not even recognizable. And no, they're not all elsewhere. Why should people even bother making prep sets? You guys destroyed this one. For example, the double lead I posted is nowhere to be found.PumpkinSky talk 11:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By "double lead" I assume you're referring to the Lake of the Woods hook? It was removed due to close paraphrasing concerns and replaced with another picture hook. The Chivalry game got moved out by Panyd due to discussion at WT:DYK, and replaced with the mushroom. Bubba was moved to prep. The Lake of the Woods one is the only one not slated to run, because of the problems with it. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:59, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About Rosemary Blight and copyvios[edit]

Hi Panyd - I noticed the article and the others associated looked like copyvios - see goalpostpictures.com/about/partners/rosemary-blight/ and so on - but I didn't have time to do anything about it. I'm busy again, but would be more than happy to help with user in a little while! --Shirt58 (talk) 06:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going through the CSDs at the moment so I'm sure I'll get to them as CorenBot does. I've left them a message on their talk page (hai if you're reading this!) so hopefully they will come and chat about it. Any extra help would be appreciated! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 06:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of creating a draft in my userspace for the editor to modify. (After I've tidied the references for about 1 000 main-belt minor planets, linked the binomial authority in every butterfly and moth article, finished translating March Action, etc, etc.)--Shirt58 (talk) 08:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Panyd, see: User:Shirt58/Rosemary Blight. As a non-admin, I can't see who that userspace draft might be addressed to. (Trust me, I've looked!) Could you possibly message the creator of Rosemary Blight about this, and if appropriate let me know about the outcome? Thank you!--Shirt58 (talk) 16:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Seems you already did two days ago! No word from them yet. It's User Talk:Leightondsam1. Nice draft! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:26, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand...[edit]

I understand you deleted the Ill Payne page i attempted to start, i know you did it in good intentions, but all i want to say (kind of like a last breath/shot of hope for getting that page back) is i meant it as something someone else could edit, make better than me, i am new to wikipedia and not sure how everything works, im sorry if theres a step i missed or something i mistaked on, i just had a good intention and thought it could be of some use, but i do respect your decision, i just wish some things could get a chance... Mickman1234 (talk) 06:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! No one is making a personal commentary on you. We assume good faith in these parts and don't think you had anything but the best of intentions. Unfortunately, if you have a look here you'll see why I had to delete it. Why not practice writing articles with the article wizard? It even has step-by-step instructions on what to do! That would be good practice and help safeguard against the article being deleted again. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 06:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, i guess the biggest thing i messed up on was the ref that was used, so what im wondering is what if theres no "professional refs" of someone who is "professional" or upcoming professional, sometimes not everything is professional about someone but what if its legit, i was thinking if its not a "professional ref" you should have 2 refs to refrence just one thing, cause chances are that its legit if its the same on the 2 "unprofessional refs" its not a lie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickman1234 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Romania articles, as in Romanian Volunteer Corps in Russia[edit]

Hi. Since you promoted the article, I would welcome a reply on the subject I raised here. Thank you. Dahn (talk) 07:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I walk through the valley[edit]

I just read your edit notice "As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death. I shall fear nothing :))" which made me smile because just minutes ago I had entered Psalm 23 in settings of psalms in the de WP. Thanks also for promoting Bach's cantata BWV 89, however early (next Sunday, and no German version yet ... whereas BWV 98 for last Sunday is still waiting), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Michaelion[edit]

Thank you. History2007 (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the "Welcome"[edit]

Hi. Thank you for the advice. I am an individual who loves horses and has started volunteering time for the International Society for the Protection of Mustangs and Burros (ISPMB). I do any graphics they may need. I created an account for Wikipedia so I can submit or suggest an article about the organization because there is an article about Velma Johnston (Wild Horse Annie) and she started the ISPMB. If I say I volunteer my time for them would that be a conflict of interest? I first created an account with the name "ISPMB Horses" with their info but found out by two other editors that was incorrect so I got locked out and created a new account per their suggestion. I want to do things correctly so I can see if an article about ISPMB can be added. So far the little bit I have done has all been wrong. Two other people are trying to help me too. I am open to any suggestions from any administrator. Any more advice you want to share would be great. Thanks. Equus Ferus (talk) 22:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well! You know where else would be a great place to go? Articles for creation! They'll review the article for you, help with issues and let you know when you fall afoul of policy. Remember, be bold! Everyone makes mistakes when they first get here. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 23:10, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
P.s. Being an admin? No big deal. Important thing to remember. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 23:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Finally a place to start! Thank you for your help. Equus Ferus (talk) 00:28, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK image removal[edit]

O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

Hello Panyd, Review of Template:Did you know nominations/Wiki Conference India is done. According to hook ...that the three day Wiki Conference India is running from 18th to 20th of November at the University of Mumbai? , it should be on main page either 19th or 20th. And It is not even in the Preparation Area. So please help. Thanks in advance. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 19:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done! It'll be up at a reasonable hour in New Dehli. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. :) You forgot to mention (logo pictured) in the hook. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 20:28, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well that I did! Fixed now. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:53, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Froze-to-Death Mountain[edit]

Did you read my commentary and suggested alt hook? The proposed hook which is now "gracing" the Main Page is an unexceptional factoid (many mountains in the world are high enough that snow is possible at any time of year). I found an excellent hook that was unique to the mountain and impeccably sourced. I thought it would be used ... apparently not. Daniel Case (talk) 17:56, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was more in favor of the first hook and saw the fact that it hadn't been crossed out as an indication that either was acceptable (that's usually the case, but apologies if that is incorrect). However, there was then further discussion on the hook here and it was edited some more to make it more appropriate. I thought the first hook was snappier and more relevant to the point which appeared to be showing off the article title. However, I've found with DYK that it's more of a mixture of art and consensus than a science. I am a little concerned that it appears to have been changed without consensus though. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies; I had to go out, I was under pressure to get off the computer and I was a little upset. Perhaps I should pay more attention to the queues. I do think it was such an unexceptional fact as to be embarassing to Wikipedia among anyone who knows anything about high mountains (also, it didn't say where the mountain was, something I think we should generally do with geography-specific hooks to avoid US- or UK-centrism, if nothing else). My understanding is that the reviewing admin is free to pick any hook from the nomination. Daniel Case (talk) 03:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did not get time to reply, but I'd still like to get my say. My original hook was intended as a simple introduction to an article with an interesting name. Call it too understated; call it too whimsical; but please don't call it embarassing. DYKs are meant to encourage volunteers and reward their contributions. Hooks are described at the DYK page as "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in" – there is no requirement to include an "exceptional factoid". SteveStrummer (talk) 04:32, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gleiss Lutz[edit]

Why did you remove Gleiss Lutz? The article wasn't "exclusively promotional". Besides, this is one of the largest law firms in Europe, which means they easily meet notability criteria. --bender235 (talk) 13:26, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I agree that they are notable, and had they been CSDed under A7 I would've declined it. I have moved the article to here for now so that you can edit it and then move it back to mainspace.
I took issue with the language of the article, which to my mind showed that the article would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. There are a few sentences which even read like they were taken straight out of a press release. For example:
Brussels was a natural choice for the firm's second office
Gleiss Lutz at that point aspired to build a pan-European practice.
The three alliance firms have continued to build links through partner and associate secondments, jointly competing for work opened up to tender and even sharing office space and training programs. They have mutually declined to deepen their referral relationships via a three-way merger.
Not only does this language appear unencyclopedic but none of it is backed by sources (well, not that my knowledge of German shows, of course some small facts are but the body of it doesn't appear to be). And one of the sources is a primary source which we really shouldn't be using. The Notable mandates section is also not written as an encylopedic narrative and looks instead like a showcase of the companys achievements, which doesn't lend credence to the idea of it being an encyclopedia article.
Anyway, it's ripe for editing and further sourcing so good luck and happy editing! I hope I have answered all of your questions but if there is anything else I can do let me know. I am here to serve. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify issue with spouse details in Russell Crowe[edit]

OTRS? can you explain what this is. SkyMachine (talk) 20:47, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I really can't which stinks. But the ticket numbers are 2011111910043841 and 2011112010040501 so if you would like to have another OTRS user check my work, please really do feel free. I'd actually appreciate as much input on this as I can get.
(Unless you mean what is OTRS? - That stands for open ticket response system and it acts much like Wikipedia's customer service arm) PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:54, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All tickets now merged into 2011112010040501 PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:21, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Help on creating new article [Noor][edit]

Hello Panyd, I am trying to create an article about Noor photo agency. Please revise the content on my user page sandbox so I can confidently move it to the main space as an article. Thank you. Ina Desk (talk) 13:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, I've edited your sandbox article a little bit so that it now contains a reliable and cited source. Unfortunately, your article will need more in the way of reliable sources before it can be safely moved to article space. Let me know if you need any assistance. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for the help, will look into your suggestions for sure. I do have two questions though. Why is the Members list not Encyclopedic, it states the names and dates they joined as well as their position in the agency. In the references, I had articles from respectable international publications about the agency and individual photographers such as Le Monde, NY Times, Polka, British Journal of Photography with content much to the likes of the one you used (thanks for that) , can you elaborate on this a bit for my understanding and follow up. Thank you for your help. Ina Desk (talk) 16:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well I looked at the sources you had used and although they were fantastic illustrations of NOOR's work, they didn't actually appear to have any content regarding NOOR themselves, and that's more what we're looking for. Also, the list of members is not referenced and doesn't appear 'woven into an encyclopedic narrative'. For a good example of how to make this more encyclopedic, see here. It's not the best article in the world but you can see that they have highlighted prominent members rather than listing all of them and that every member has a contribution to the project or reference (or both) to go alongside their entry. Hope this helps! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:50, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks once again. I looked into the references and your comment is correct. I revised the list and shortened it to less than half. I selected articles that have content about NOOR or its photographers rather than slideshows with images, hope this works. For the list of members, I thought it would be very useful in the article for quick access to the information. I took my cue from these guys and these. Also not sure about how I can reference them on a list, should I link their names to the Agency's website? thank you Ina Desk (talk) 15:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom election 2011[edit]

Thanks for nominating yourself and welcome to this year's election. Thank you also for being candid about your health, your relationship with another Arbitrator, and your alts. Welcoming you is one of tasks I've volunteered to do. Can you please look over your row on the table on the Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2011/Candidates/Guide page? Feel free to correct any mistakes or to fill in any missing information. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently I'm an administrator on the outreach wiki (I had no idea). Is that something that should be added? Also, thank you for your thanks. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, and no, I don't believe that being a Outreach sysop should be added, since it isn't relevant. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 02:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Always best to check :) PanydThe muffin is not subtle 02:26, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 21 November 2011[edit]

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Your AFD close didn't work right[edit]

William Elfving You closed it but the AFD message is still on the article. Dream Focus 01:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I apologise but that was on my list of things to do once I'd worked through the backlog. Anyway, done now. Btw, you can remove it yourself so be bold. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 01:30, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Stuffo[edit]

Hey Panyd, thanks--but that was a double DYK, which included Hülfensberg as well. Since they're up the whole day, can you bold that word on the front page? And I'd love to get credit for it since I don't make 'em so often anymore. Thanks in advance, Drmies (talk) 17:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, unfortunately not. If you take a look here you'll see that only Stuffo was approved for DYK and I chose a hook appropriately. I hope you'll understand but I cannot "embolden" Hülfensberg. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:28, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Noticing this: I think it should not have been promoted. The mountain just waited for a review, not that it was rejected, and I would have approved it if only I had seen that it was missing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

London Wikimania[edit]

Hi,

I assume it was you that did the excellent work on this (you don't have a user page on that wiki.)

You may be interested in my comment on WiFi on the talk page.

Yaris678 (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh don't look at me, I'm just the one who gets to boss people about. You can primarily thank User:Marek69 and User:HJ Mitchell for the page. They did a fantastic job :) PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:45, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. I've alerted them to my comment.
Thanks. Yaris678 (talk) 10:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK overdue[edit]

The DYK queues are empty and the main page is over 3 hours overdue for rotation. PumpkinSky talk 19:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My that's embaressing. Fixed. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 19:25, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning the Arbitration Committee Elections[edit]

Paynd,

As a candidate for the Arbitration Committee elections, please be aware that your name has been entered into the SecurePoll ballot and can no longer be removed barring the most dire of emergencies and direct manipulation of the database. While you may still withdraw from the election, your name will not be removed from the ballot, but only struck through. If you have any further questions on the process, feel free to contact myself, the other election administrators, or the election coordinators. --Tznkai (talk), 2011 Arbitration Committee Election Administrator. 21:18, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

I just checked WT:DYK before heading to bed and my jaw dropped. I want to thank you and Cavalry for attempting to have a discussion about moving forward and improving things for DYKers, and for the matter-of-fact and sensitive way that you, in particular, have shepherded the resulting conversation. I'm also thrilled to see people participating in the conversation there who I haven't seen there in a while if ever - I'm not good at remembering names but it's become more and more a small group discussion. However, that page is scary. I make myself look at it in case there's something there that affects me (like the discussion that led to the implementation of quid pro quo reviewing) or something I could help with (sometimes I have time to review or improve an article when someone pleads for help). But I don't feel brave enough to participate in the current discussion. I was used as a bad example after sticking my neck out once before, and felt I should get out of DYK altogether for a while so as to remove that ammunition. I resumed submitting articles and have submitted more than I otherwise would have because it's apparent that so many people have been driven away that DYK is starving for articles. But I'm all too aware that a lot of people - probably most of the people you and Cavalry would like to have participate in the current convo - have left it, and I'm still on the edge myself. I don't know how to get broader participation in either the convo or DYK itself in the current climate, although in some respects it's better than the climate a few months ago. Wimpiest edit I've made in a while, but I did want to offer applause. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:07, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Eric van der Kleij[edit]

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 03:07, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK Christen Pram[edit]

Quality control alert  :-} - perhaps there could have been reservations about promoting this for DYK in its original state - as it missed the essential feature that, although perhaps the first Norwegian novelist by birth, CP wrote in Danish. So the hook ref is possibly misleading. Also the English was rather stilted (written perhaps by a Norwegian?) and the names of CP's main works were not translated into English. I've tried to put these right. Best,--Smerus 08:01, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey! That's what DYK is all about, improving new articles, so thank you very much. None of these things are actually barriers at the moment to a DYK being passed, however, I'm going to shamelessly plug my new project here and say if you have any suggestions for improvement of our standards, either leave me a note here, go to DYKs talk page or come play with my new wizard! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:40, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Left brain interpreter[edit]

Thank you. History2007 (talk) 18:41, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


New article, going live [Noor][edit]

Hy Panyd. I revised the article according to your suggestions. I would like to go live with it, hope it is up to standard. Thanks for your help. Ina Desk (talk) 09:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's still not ready, please give me a few days to work on it for you. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for the help Ina Desk (talk) 09:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

dyk submissions[edit]

Hi Panyd. I saw you were working on a tool to help at dyk for processing submissions. Wonder if you have pondered about something that wouldn't even require modifying the user's .css, such as a toolserver gadget such as is used with submitting RFCs like http://toolserver.org/~messedrocker/postingtool.php. Click the link to submit the nomination and it can auto-populate the nom, credits, hook, subpage, etc. Anyways just a thought. Take care. Calmer Waters 20:56, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm thinking about that sort of thing for the end of the process. However, I'm taking everything one step at a time to garner community consensus. Thank you for the suggestion though! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of work ahead but I'm sure whatever you come up with will be great. Best of luck and best wishes. Kindly Calmer Waters 21:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 28 November 2011[edit]

DYK did not update, queues empty[edit]

No update to main page. Queues are empty. Two prep sets are full. Admins-stroke! stroke! PumpkinSky talk 00:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Otium[edit]

Thanks for the DYK credit for Otium. I believe I nominated User talk:7&6=thirteen as a joint nominator as he was a major contributor and we did this together. He should get credit also for the DYK. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 16:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have added him to the credits. Gatoclass (talk) 05:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Special Barnstar
Thank you for the admin coaching and encouragement to stand for adminship. I shall try to wield the mop carefully and justly!
—Tom Morris (talk) 11:01, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Woop![edit]

Many congrats :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:22, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed! Johnbod (talk) 21:16, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! I wish you the best!~ Matthewrbowker Say hi! 15:15, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

any news [Noor][edit]

Hy Panyd. Congratulations on recent events. Any updates on the article? I would really like to be able to add the members list and go live. Thanks. --Ina Desk (talk) 14:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The UGPN Deletion: 15 December 2011[edit]

Hi - you deleted my page (details below) citing copyright infringement. The truth is that we wrote the text that you are claiming we infringed! What do we need to do to get the page back up? It seems odd that information that is open that I wrote can't be used on my website and simultaneously on Wikipedia!

13:58, 23 September 2011 Panyd (talk | contribs) deleted "University Global Partnership Network" ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.ugpn.org/about/ http://www.ugpn.org/ http://www.ugpn.org/partners/ http://www.ugpn.org/news/63615_ugpn_launch.htm) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.227.206.48 (talk)

Oh dear, but what to is to be done with that talk-page?[edit]

Hi Panyd! Talk:2010 Deganga riots. Blanking it is possibly not the best solution. Is it really that impossibly intractable? --Shirt58 (talk) 12:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see that the content of the page before I blanked it was relevant to any sort of discussion. It just appeared to be racial slurs. Do you disagree? The dispute that was raging on the article appears to have not been an issue since January of this year now so I think it's fine to leave it as it is. However, if you have an alternative suggestion, please do let me know. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saved from the drama[edit]

The "narrowly dodging a bullet" award
Congratulations on narrowly missing the chance to immerse yourself in the most painful, unsolveable disputes stirred up by some of the most tiresome drama queens on the planet. Your civility and unflappable attitude rocks. The very reason you are so suitable for handling drama is why I'm both sad and slightly relieved that you didn't get it.
—Tom Morris (talk) 23:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Adding my regards here also. ArbCom is not a fun place, but I think you would have been a welcome addition. I thank you for your bravery in stepping up to the plate and running. I was hoping you'd be elected as I think you would have brought a lot of good ideas to the committee. I'm sorry you didn't make it, but the bright side is you don't have to deal with the drama, as Tom points out above. You can be certain to have my support if you decide to run in the future. Best regards. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 00:11, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I too have come here to express pretty much everything Hydroxonium and Tom have said. I think you'd have been great on the committee, and will be in future if you decide to run again. Thryduulf (talk) 02:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes - and not a bad poll showing in fact. As you know, I subscribe to the narrow escape school of thought! Johnbod (talk) 14:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Two things: Sorry about your loss and DYK[edit]

Just wanted to say I appreciate you having run for election. That is really courageous and scary. Good on you for putting yourself out there like that. Sad you lost, but ah well.  :) More time for women's outreach. ;) On a second note, I know I said no more Aussie Paralympian DYKs from me for a while, but did an expansion for Jeremy Doyle that I've asked some one to nominate. The only reason I did this was the sad news of his passing. :( --LauraHale (talk) 12:09, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw this and though of you immediately[edit]

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DYK on 18 November[edit]

Hi Panyd, this is just a courtesy notice to let you know that I have opened a discussion at WT:DYK about a hook slipping through the net in mid November, in which you were involved. I understand that you are not well (hope you do get well soon though, and happy new year), so don't worry; it's not that big of a deal. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you![edit]

Haven't seen ya in a while, I hope you're doing okay! Here's a cup of tea, perhaps it will help. Happy New Year, and looking forward to seeing you online again, soon. SarahStierch (talk) 19:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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RainbowDash / Futtershy and an unsuccessful ArbCom candidate[edit]

[2], [3] – Out of curiosity, are you the unsuccessful ArbCom candidate mentioned in these diff's? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 16:32, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if you noticed the box up top, but in case you didn't, Panyd is currently on medical wikibreak, so she may not be around to answer your question. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I did always promise not to log in when unwell, so maybe the CUs can tell you from exactly which hospital I am sending this message. Though you asked politely, no, no and no again and the idea that people still have the temerity to question my status as a user in her own right is really starting to annoy me.
PS please do not oversight this. I would sign it but my mobile doesn't have the correct characters for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.49.18 (talk) 17:24, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
He spammed the same question to all the arbcom candidates who didn't win, Panyd, so for what it's worth, he probably didn't mean it as a personal affront. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed he did, I had the same message myself. You're in my thoughts Panyd, chin up :) WormTT · (talk) 08:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 20 February 2012[edit]

MSU Interview[edit]

Dear Panyd,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.


Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at [email protected] (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at [email protected]. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.206.39 (talk) 03:47, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 27 February 2012[edit]

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