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Soccer Uniform Article Deletion Discussion
Hello, Soccer Uniform Article Deletion Discussion took place.
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AFC Ajax kit history
Please join the discussion 119.194.204.63 (talk) 03:13, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry! Don't get me wrong. I thought you are interested in Sports Uniform article. So, I just wanted to let you know discussion situation about sports uniform articles!
I'll be careful of Wikipedia:Canvassing in the future! I'll respect your any opinion about discussion! Thank you for your advice!119.194.204.63 (talk) 04:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Is this comment ok? not Wikipedia:Canvassing ?
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress#Chronological order of polls. —GoldRingChip 12:41, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Zach Britton Trade is now confirmed
https://www.mlb.com/news/yankees-agree-to-deal-for-zach-britton/c-287154688 there, MLB has reported it. Bdu754 (talk) 02:54, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Bdu754: That's not MLB, that's MLB.com, and it has editorial independence. Read the first sentence. "The Yankees have agreed to a deal to acquire O's closer Zach Britton, pending physicals, according to MLB.com's Jon Paul Morosi." So much hedging. "Have agreed". "Pending physicals". "According to" a source outside of the organizations. The Orioles make trades that fall through because of physical exams a lot. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:00, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi - a quick note to seek your input on the lead to the Tom Yawkey page. An edit was made yesterday by an unregistered user to change "alleged racism" to "racism", which I reverted (as being unsupported by source material). My revert was today itself reverted (by a registered user). I don't want to get into a revert-war, but I don't feel the current lead is appropriate (his legacy is pretty clearly disputed, as demonstrated in The Boston Globe citation that accompanies the line in the question in the lead). Would like your input on this, when you may have a chance. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for fixing my error. :-) 58.152.249.234 (talk) 01:52, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
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Ethan Happ article
PROD wasn’t really the way to go on this one. Happ meets WP:NCOLLATH as a legitimate All-American (major national award) and he also meets WP:GNG, which WP:BEFORE should have turned up. Now, the article is outdated and poorly sourced, but if you want to push sourcing then WP:AFD would have forced that issue without the risk that the article gets deleted without sufficient review. I will add sources to the article today so it’s clear the player meets GNG. Rikster2 (talk) 10:28, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Cole Hamels to Cubs
It was posted on ESPN prior to my edit.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbelknap (talk • contribs)
- @Sbelknap: Not sure if you mean "Cubs hoping for vintage Cole Hamels as they make playoff push" from ESPN. In that one, it says trade is not official:
On the surface, the trade with the Texas Rangers of Hamels for minor league prospects -- which the two sides haven't made official yet -- is a risky one
. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 10:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Ted Metz
Thanks for being an asshole. That page was not a violation. Ted himself gave me permission to copy the information from his page and use his photo for that article.
It's bullshit that you Republicrats are so butthurt that a Libertarian might get some lime light.
Railfan2012 (talk) 01:39, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Railfan2012: Be WP:CIVIL or you won't be here much longer. We follow basic principles found at WP:5P and that page violated them. Even if you have the candidate's explicit permission to copy his page, we can't accept that. Wikipedia is not to be used for promotional purposes. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Muboshgu, I gave them a final warning for the post towards me on their talk page, so now they've created their userpage. Think this is enough. Home Lander (talk) 02:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Home Lander: I agree. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:52, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- ...and I think their talk page rights can go bye-bye too now.
02:53, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Home Lander: Yeah I shouldn't have forgotten that. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- No problem, hopefully they're more civil than this with their political endeavors. Home Lander (talk) 02:57, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Home Lander: Yeah I shouldn't have forgotten that. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- ...and I think their talk page rights can go bye-bye too now.
DYK for Lucy McBath
On 29 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lucy McBath, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the fatal shooting of her son inspired Lucy McBath to advocate for gun control and ultimately run for the United States Congress? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lucy McBath. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Lucy McBath), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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You left me a message: See bleow
"Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Kamala Harris. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment"
First off, I did not feel the message was nonconstructive (which is nothing but your perspective and censoring of fact) as you put it. In your pusillanimous attempt to look down your nose at me and and comment. If you researched before removing or chastising others, you would have found this is a fact and is pertinent as to who she is or isn't and the smoke screens and mirrors surrounding her and those like you who promote her. i suspect if i had written something negative about Trump, it would have been ok, not that i am a supporter of his — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mensa517 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Messi article needs an indefinite lock
Hi. Thanks for protecting the Messi article. It became unprotected after the three days of being padlocked were over. Issue remains though, when it becomes unprotected (which it hasn’t been previously) on August 9 the same issue will occur. This is one of the busiest bios on the site, and being a sports page it is prone to vandalism, especially given the player involved and the team he plays for. It needs indefinite protection. Thanks. F8RIL (talk) 14:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- @F8RIL: We tend to increase protection incrementally rather than going straight for indefinite. I do agree that vandalism is likely to continue based on the profile of that individual. If the vandalism resumes on August 9, ping me, and I'll protect it for a longer period of time. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:46, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Hillary Email Scandal
You reverted an edit without any comment or adding to the talk page. This is long past controversy, and does not meet the definition of controversy. Bongey (talk) 01:37, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Bongey: I should have left a comment. That was my mistake. You did well to post on the talk page with your next move rather than try to edit war. But, there is no "scandal" there. It was a ginned up controversy. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:57, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Bongey: Never mind. You had started off so well, and you went and edit warred. Mind WP:BRD, which says the established version stays until consensus changes. Undo your edit or risk being blocked. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: You can remove this , you sanctions link is some kind of threat I guess.Should be an un-involved admin commenting, not one involved in conflict. Just delete this section , giving up on wikipedia. Bongey (talk) 02:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Ron Dellums
On 31 July 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ron Dellums, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ad Orientem (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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Question about redirects
Hey, I just created this redirect: Jennifer Lewis (politician). Should I add it to Jennifer Lewis (disambiguation), or do we not add redirects to disambiguation pages? Thanks. Marquardtika (talk) 18:52, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Marquardtika: I don't think we do. I don't add redirects to dab pages, personally. I'm not 100% sure if there's a rule on that or not. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks! Marquardtika (talk) 02:14, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Molinaro Picture
@Muboshgu
Which email do I need to send my 'copyright release' to? To be clear, the image is not copyrighted—but I will email the appropriate channel to verify my identity. If you could let me know what that address is I would be very appreciative. Thank you!
- @583Ladybread: Email it, and a description of who you are, to photosubmission (at) wikimedia (dot) org – Muboshgu (talk) 13:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Will do, thanks!
Administrators' newsletter – August 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).
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- After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
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Recent undo
Greetings, Muboshgu. I am curious about the undoing of the change to the article about the 2016 Democratic primaries. Was it too much detail or not on topic? Thank you. A. Resident Expert (talk) 20:36, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @A. Resident Expert: Your edit was "This contributed to a perception among some voters of Hillary Clinton's inevitability and influence by political elites in smoke-filled rooms." That violates WP:NPOV, and I don't know that that source passes WP:RS. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
User Melonthonyfantano
Something going on at their talk page, maybe you'd want to go ahead and revoke access. Also two other socks: ThatAwesomeGuyyy, PoKeMoNza. -★- PlyrStar93 →Message me. ← 20:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- @PlyrStar93: Thanks for bringing them to my attention. All dealt with. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you too. I fixed the ping BTW. -★- PlyrStar93 →Message me. ← 20:33, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for Aretha Franklin
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- Thanks? I'm not looking for any credit for this one. All I did was make some minor edits. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:30, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Christine Hallquist for deletion
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Muboshgu, you said that you'd be providing a QPQ review for this nomination that same day back on August 7. Pinging you since it appears to have slipped your mind; if you don't expect to have it done by the end of the weekend, please let us know how soon you think you can finish a review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:42, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Whoops! It slipped my mind. I'll do it now and ping you when it's done. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:41, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
2019 NCAA Division I Baseball Tournament
I Was Trying To Finish An Article but you had to stop me because of a Edit Conflict stop this why did you do this is it too soon. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 03:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, in checking whether we mentioned that the uniforms are debuted at the MLB Little League Classic (we did), I looked up MLB Little League Classic and found that it is divided into 3 pages: 2017 MLB Little League Classic, 2018 MLB Little League Classic, and 2019 MLB Little League Classic. I left a note on the 2017 talk page asking why this was so; and alternately, whether Players Weekend should also be spun off by year? What do you think? Personally, I think that when MLB debuted these new schemes last year, it may have looked like a one-time thing and was worthy of a specific article. But now that these have been established as annual programs, I think both MLB Little League Classic and Players Weekend should be stand-alone articles, with each year's event listed at the bottom of the page. This point has also been made by a post at Talk:2017 MLB Little League Classic. Thanks for your feedback. Yoninah (talk) 20:21, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Unhinged (book)
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Really interesting but there may be a neutrality issue with the hook and the picture doesn't appear in the article. – Reidgreg (talk) 18:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Paul Penzone for deletion
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Reverting edits
Please refrain from reverting well-sourced edits for no reason as you did for Robert Reich. Thank you. 45.62.219.78 (talk) 23:08, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Devan Watts
Can you please retrieve the page Devan Watts and create a re-direct to the player's section in Chicago White Sox minor league players? Said player is now back with an affiliated organization, and I've already added his section back to the CWS minor league players page. You originally deleted his player page.Pozzi.c (talk) 16:22, 25 August 2018 (UTC)pozzi.c 16:21, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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What commentary?? Bruno SanMartino (talk) 03:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
What commentary?? Bruno SanMartino (talk) 03:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Bruno SanMartino:
"The FBI has claimed they have no evidence of Chinese hacking. However, this claim ignores that if the intelligence had been uncovered by another agency - the NSA or CIA, for example - the information would have been compartmentalized and, therefore, would not have been passed along."
- That is commentary. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- I left a strong admonition on User:Phmoreno's talk too. Seriously, he needs a topic ban. Big competency issues, in spite of repeated warnings. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 05:54, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- This should also be of interest. He considers what RS say a "false narrative", and that's because his narrative is from The Daily Caller, Fox News, etc. We don't need conspiracy theorists pushing their false theories into articles, when those theories come from unreliable sources. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 06:16, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- @BullRangifer: But the Fake News Media! Enemy of the People! Lügenpresse! </sarcasm> I agree with you. If this continues we should probably find the appropriate noticeboard to seek those topic bans. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- This should also be of interest. He considers what RS say a "false narrative", and that's because his narrative is from The Daily Caller, Fox News, etc. We don't need conspiracy theorists pushing their false theories into articles, when those theories come from unreliable sources. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 06:16, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
10 Year Old Says He No Longer Wants to Raise His Cat-Like Enemy
Good evening MuboShgu.
I'd like to inform you that Coop kid and his feline-looking enemy who was aptly named Kat had been taken off the air a while ago. A few years later after this happened someone had protected their episode guide. You didn't do that right?
It happened sometime back in November or December '17. But since the main page ain't protected it shouldn't be protected either!
The vandals aren't that frequent compared to EEnE's episode (and character) guide which have been locked up permanently. And yes there is no season 3.
I appreciate it if you do this for four weeks and get unlocked rather than SP'ed indefinitely. And please notify me if it works for you!
Yours truly,
67.81.163.178 (talk) 23:20, 26 August 2018 (UTC) Source: en.wikipedia.org/w/List_of_Kid_vs_Kat_Episodes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.163.178 (talk) 00:04, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Page? – Muboshgu (talk) 23:22, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
- Oh I only now just saw the page link added after my comment. I have had nothing to do with that page. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
WikiCup 2018 September newsletter
The fourth round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The eight users who made it to the final round had to score a minimum of 422 points to qualify, with the top score in the round being 4869 points. The leaders in round 4 were:
Courcelles scored a magnificent 4869 points, with 92 good articles on Olympics-related themes. Courcelles' bonus points alone exceeded the total score of any of the other contestants!
Kees08 was second with 1155 points, including a high-scoring featured article for Neil Armstrong, two good topics and some Olympics-related good articles.
Cas Liber, with 1066 points, was in third place this round, with two featured articles and a good article, all on natural history topics.- Other contestants who qualified for the final round were
Nova Crystallis, 
Iazyges, 
SounderBruce, 
Kosack and 
Ceranthor.
During round four, 6 featured articles and 164 good articles were promoted by WikiCup contestants, 13 articles were included in good topics and 143 good article reviews were performed. There were also 10 "in the news" contributions on the main page and 53 "did you knows". Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.
Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best editor win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Lego Adventurers
Would it be possible to restore the page's edit history and just redirect it to List of Lego themes instead of having it outright deleted? That seems to have been what's happened to most Lego themes whose pages have been removed. Sorry to bother. --Jessietail (talk) 06:08, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Jessietail: No bother, that's fine. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
2018 NBA draft article
So with the formatting that you have inserted, how does one remove the shading from a name once that player has appeared in a game? I’m not trying to break MOS:ACCESS but it is not intuitive how to actually perform this task now. Rikster2 (talk) 17:53, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think "bgcolor" is outdated syntax. "Background" would probably work. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:56, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- So, I have no idea what this means in actually editing the article and I doubt most who edit these articles do. If you give me instructions I’ll do the work, but this is my problem with the edits in the first place - there was a lack of understanding of how these articles are used and updated. If I know how to do it I can put instructions on the talk page or something similar. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- I did not do the best job explaining. And unfortunately I don't know why "bgcolor" doesn't work but "style=background" does, so I don't know that I can better explain that part of it. The best I can do is point you to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Data tables tutorial, which explains it decently well. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- So, I have no idea what this means in actually editing the article and I doubt most who edit these articles do. If you give me instructions I’ll do the work, but this is my problem with the edits in the first place - there was a lack of understanding of how these articles are used and updated. If I know how to do it I can put instructions on the talk page or something similar. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).
Administrator changes
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Asterion • Crisco 1492 • KF • Kudpung • Liz • Randykitty • Spartaz
Optimist on the run → Voice of Clam
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- The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.
Page
I did not think my page I created for Marlon Rossouw should be deleted Royalreporterupdater (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Royalreporterupdater: I think that before you attempt to create another article, you should read Wikipedia:Your first article. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:06, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Gabriel Guerrero
Can you move Gabby Guerrero to Gabriel Guerrero when you get the chance?--Yankees10 03:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Gwen Graham
Knock off your edit warring. If you think you have a constructive edit to make have at it. Otherwise stop the reverts. 68.46.226.6 (talk) 03:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
lol
nanny was never convicted
Your sources do not show the nanny was convicted. It is a claim. I have to wonder why you are white knighting this dreck. 19:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- The nanny was convicted. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
There is no record of this conviction in any court in Florida, nor is the Nanny on the Florida Sex Offenders database [1] which is public and searchable. So how do you know the nanny has been convicted? All you linked to was another claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:343:280:4D9B:3488:9C22:155C:94A (talk)
- The nanny is named Waldina Flores, and she shows up in that database. So stop trying to smears a victim of sexual abuse. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Ybor Stadium
On 6 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ybor Stadium, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the proposed Ybor Stadium would be the smallest in Major League Baseball by seating capacity? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ybor Stadium. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ybor Stadium), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Paul Finnegan
I noticed that you deleted the Paul Finnegan page. I don't agree with that decision -- he was the Treasurer of Harvard, and all prior Treasurers have had pages. He's also a reasonably notable guy throughout the Chicagoland community.
I'm relatively new and don't know the formal mechanism to go about challenging these things, but I'd ask for a bit more debate before deleting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlCarlsonIV (talk • contribs) 02:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- @CarlCarlsonIV: Hi. The reason I deleted the page is because it was proposed for deletion for seven days and nobody objected. "Proposed deletions" are one way that articles can be deleted. WP:AFD is the process by which articles that someone objects to deleting get a discussion to determine consensus.
- Looking at the article as it was, the sourcing was poor. However, the article didn't say that he was Treasurer of Harvard. Perhaps there's more that could be added to it. What I can do is restore the content in draft space, at Draft:Paul Finnegan. Then, if you can improve upon it, you can submit it for approval through WP:AFC to ensure it passes muster. Sound good? – Muboshgu (talk) 02:59, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Is there a way to restore the content that was there before? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlCarlsonIV (talk • contribs) 03:04, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- @CarlCarlsonIV: I've restored the content to Draft:Paul Finnegan. Have at it. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlCarlsonIV (talk • contribs) 03:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Jeffrey Ballinger
If the Trahan article can not yet be distinguished from the election one, does Jeffrey Ballinger need a redirect as well?Hoponpop69 (talk) 18:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Hoponpop69: I don't know. Maybe. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:05, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Patrick Kivlehan was sent to the D-Backs
http://arizonasports.com/story/1655907/d-backs-acquire-patrick-kivlehan-from-mets-move-dyson-to-60-day-dl/ Theres the link. PhoenixRancor (talk) 23:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- @PhoenixRancor: Thank you for citing a source. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Re: Booker
I'm no sockpuppet, but I did neglect to keep my emotions in check, and they did compromise my neutrality. For that, I am sorry. I have no objection to including in the article Booker's violation of Senate rules. SleuthOfTruth (talk) 09:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Mary Gay Scanlon for deletion
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Discussion at Talk:Beto O'Rourke#Arrest
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Beto O'Rourke#Arrest. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:30, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
I put the infobox back. I don't why the infobox template for all court cases uses Italics, but that seems to be the way it is and was done on purpose. You can bring up the issue in the Teahouse and maybe all the templates can be changed.
The Italics are not a 'bug'. They are used throughout the templates. I don't know who you contact about the issue. Geo8rge (talk) 12:39, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Geo8rge: We're not going to try to change the template for this one issue, especially because the template is working as intended and it's the use on Butina's page that is wrong. I see that another editor fixed it. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:41, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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Alessandra Biaggi
I want to write an article about the New York State Senate Alessandra Biaggi. It was put as a redirect, can you please undo it so can move it into a draft space. There is a lot of information about her and its a stunning victory in local politics. She beat the incumbent Jeffrey D. Klein, who led the IDC. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez canvased the district with her. She was endorsed by the New York Times, New York Daily News and Kirsten Gillibrand and the following politicians Scott Stringer,Jerrold Nadler, Corey Johnson,Keith Powers (politician) and more. Also she is a fourth generation politician Newyorkelection (talk) 03:00, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Newyorkelection: I can put it back in draft space. It's WP:TOOSOON as of now. She will be notable no later than when she takes office. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Sure no problem. Can you please do that. Newyorkelection (talk) 02:26, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
The Eric Swalwell entry in Wikipedia is a one sided pro Swalwell piece to which I made several minor edits to give even a small attempt at balance yet you removed them. Could you be more specific as to why "the edit you made to Eric Swalwell, did not appear constructive and has been reverted."? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.75.93 (talk) 18:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Unhinged (book)
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Revert
You reverted me at Tim Lincecum on 30 September. I was mobile and my edit summary was accidentally misleading, so my apologies for that. But I fail to see where it is mentioned in the article that he is Filipino-American. As far as I can tell, his mother is Filipino-American but he was born in Bellevue, WA. Also, the information that I had changed was added by an IP a couple of weeks prior without a source. Just seeking clarification. Thanks! Jip Orlando (talk) 20:18, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
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Nomination of Jim Nettles for deletion
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Request
Can you please move David Hulse (baseball) to David Hulse?--Yankees10 01:38, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Opener (baseball)
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Odd decision
The Kim Davis article was quiet until 107.77.237.142 started vandalizing it late Sunday. You protected the page. But ... why didn't you just block the IP? —Prhartcom♥ 03:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Prhartcom: There's two different IPs: 107.77.233.178 and 107.77.237.142. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:48, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Harley Rouda draft
Hi. I'll add more news articles/etc to meet the Notability claim. Obviously, if he wins, he's there but we'd like to have the page up prior. There are other notable candidates with existing pages.
Thanks,
Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelADonahue (talk • contribs) 10:58, October 24, 2018 (UTC)
- @MichaelADonahue: Other candidates in the 2018 elections do have Wikipedia articles, but they are notable per WP:GNG or WP:NPOL guidelines, or should be. Rouda's coverage doesn't appear to be there yet. A number of the things in that draft are unsourced. The draft wouldn't pass a review right now. I have been working on a lot of drafts for 2018 candidates right now, and I'll put some time into the Rouda draft to see how much we can improve it.
- I appreciate that you have disclosed your conflict of interest with Rouda. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:40, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
AfC notification: Draft:Brendan Kelly (politician) has a new comment
DYK for Opener (baseball)
On 26 October 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Opener (baseball), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that several Major League Baseball teams adopted the "opener" strategy during the 2018 season? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Opener (baseball). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Opener (baseball)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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I think you may have misunderstood the purpose of the quotation marks I added in your revert here [2]. The word "unsubstantiated" was specifically used in the report, and the quotes as an attribution. Do you still believe that constitutes scare quoting? Wikieditor19920 (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Wikieditor19920: It's one word that was specifically used, but it's not a quote. It doesn't need quotation marks. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:51, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- It just seems like since the word was drawn directly from the conclusion of the report, and not thought up by a Wikipedia editor, quotes were appropriate. I see how you could interpret it that way, but I think calling them scare quotes is a slight mischaracterization. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 03:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Wikieditor19920: Fair enough. I understand your point on this. I think it should be up to the community consensus how we handle that. I try to avoid quotes for one word like that because of the possible implications. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- It just seems like since the word was drawn directly from the conclusion of the report, and not thought up by a Wikipedia editor, quotes were appropriate. I see how you could interpret it that way, but I think calling them scare quotes is a slight mischaracterization. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 03:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
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Elissa Slotkin article
You tagged the Elissa Slotkin article as a copyvio, but the source you gave is a US government site, which isn't subject to copyright, so it's acceptable to reuse. It just needs appropriate tagging. Guettarda (talk) 01:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Guettarda: Yeah I picked the wrong template. It's a copy-paste job, and that was the tag I meant to use. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:27, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Dawn Adams
Hi. I noticed that you moved Dawn Adams, but Talk:Dawn M. Adams was left behind, I assume inadvertently. Just wanted to let you know. Station1 (talk) 03:11, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Station1: Odd. I thought it was checked off that it should move too. Thanks for letting me know, I'll correct that now. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:14, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Merrick Garland Revert
Hello,
Several months back I removed the term "unprecedented" from the following sentence on Merrick Garland's page:
"Senate Republicans' unprecedented refusal to consider the nomination was considered highly controversial."
The senate's refusal to consider was by no means "unprecedented" as it has happened several times before. A quick search of "Unsuccessful_nominations_to_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States" will show.
Not for nothing, this sentence is beneath the standards of wikipedia in the first place.
I'd like to understand your motive for removing this edit, and why, despite happening before it is still somehow unprecedented.
Thank you,
Missionsurf6 (talk) 04:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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@Binksternet has proposed a compromise regarding the Grimes article (see [3]). What say you? Quis separabit?
- I already responded to it before your post here. I await feedback from others. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:14, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Jim Hagedorn (politician)
It appears we both moved an article to Jim Hagedorn (politician) at almost the same time, I from main space and you from draft space, making the edit history confusing. I'm not sure what, if anything, to do about it, as it's being expanded quickly now. Jonathunder (talk) 23:38, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Jonathunder: Things like that can happen in hectic times. I undeleted the revisions that got overwritten, so they're in the article history. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:42, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Alyse Galvin
Thanks for your note on my talk page. As far as the MFD goes, the damage has already been done. I am willing to discuss things here, though. I haven't cleaned up my talk page in quite some time, so perhaps you didn't have the time to look it over. I'm pretty sure that someone left a note a little while back asking why we don't have an article on Jim Duncan. I tried, but it looks like some of your fellow admins have some really funny views of what collaboration is, with draftspace serving as their personal laboratory to push those views, aggressive deletionism being one of their tools. Ignoring and/or actively burying and eventually deleting content such as that, while pushing something like this covering a comparative nobody, sends a crystal-clear message that our only purpose is to mindlessly repeat whatever the news media is pushing today. I can't begin to tell you how fraught with danger such an approach is. This is hardly the only example of such I've witnessed in the more than 12 years I've been contributing to this website. I met Galvin on the campaign trail some months ago. She consented to a photo with the explicit understanding that it could possibly be used to illustrate Wikipedia content related to her campaign. After seeing some of the stuff I've seen the past few weeks, I'm rethinking whether I'm going to eventually upload it. Past experience has shown that there are plenty of fellow editors who love to get their hands on my intellectual property to use it more for puffery and gratuitous promotion than for any greater good, the Margaret Stock photo I contributed two years ago being a prime example. If the draft looked more like a real biography than a repetition of her campaign propaganda, I might think otherwise, but then there's the problem of "reliable" sources who don't feel the need to provide their readers with such information, information which was considered commonplace in their coverage not too terribly long ago. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 01:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @RadioKAOS: When I undid your edit, that was all there was. You hadn't yet started the MfD, but you did after, which I don't understand. I would've moved this to my userspace or deleted it myself without needing the whole community to get involved. This seems like you're trying to make a WP:POINT. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:29, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Scheduling a page that shouldn't exist for deletion isn't "disruptive" dude. Quit being a self-righteous, power hungry Wikipedia user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BingBong321 (talk • contribs) 16:41, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Sharice Davids
For the purposes of Category:LGBT members of the United States Congress, it is not relevant whether she's been formally sworn in yet or not. As an LGBT person who has an article because politics, she must already be in Category:LGBT politicians from the United States, or a relevant subcategory of it, today — but she isn't even in the general parent category yet, so the addition of some category which places her in that context is immediately mandatory. But the practice has never been that we stopgap a person into the general parent category for the intervening two months and then move her to the relevant subcategory only after swearing-in day actually arrives — the practice has always been that the person just immediately goes into the role-specific subcategory regardless of the nuances of whether she's a sitting member or just a member-elect. The category may not be named ideally, but its core purpose has never been to segregate sitting members from members-elect — its core purpose is to contain all LGBT people who have been elected to Congress, even if they're still just members-elect as of today. Bearcat (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: She's not a member until January 3. The vote hasn't been certified yet. So I don't agree with your argument. I don't see why she can't stay in the LGBT politicians category for the time being. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:48, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter whether she's a sitting member yet or not — the category's point of distinction is not and never has been "sitting members in, members-elect out", but has always been "members and members-elect". And you didn't replace the members of Congress category with "LGBT politicians from the United States" — you simply removed it without adding any alternative category to place either Sharice Davids or Katie Hill in any "LGBT politicians from the United States" context at all. But at any rate, temporarily placeholdering somebody further up the tree for two months, and moving them to the endgame subcategory only after they've already been formally sworn in is not standard practice for that category tree — the article's body text certainly needs to be precisely accurate about the fact that she hasn't been sworn in yet, but there's no value in being so finicky about the categories that it would be useful or necessary to temporarily stopgap the article somewhere other than the endgame category for eight weeks pending a distinction that was never actually relevant to the endgame category's purpose in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 18:04, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: The category is for "members", and she's not yet a member. She's a member-elect. There are no other Congress "member" categories present there, like the Democratic member category of the member from Kansas category. Why should LGBT category be different? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- The rules aren't different for any other category — for all political categories, the rule has always been to just use the endgame category right away rather than temporarily stopgapping them in a more general category for a few weeks and moving them to the endgame subcategory only later on. Members-elect to a legislature don't get placeholdered in "State politicians" for a few weeks before getting moved to the appropriate "members of Congress" or "members of the state legislature" subcategory only after January 8, and new mayors-elect don't get temporarily excluded from "Mayors of [City]", or confined to "State politicians" in the interim, just because they haven't already been sworn in as mayor yet — there's no value in transitional or temporary categorization, but rather a person just goes into the role-specific category right away, and it's the job of the article's body text to clarify the distinction between "sitting member" and "member-elect".
LGBT categories aren't actually different from other categories in this regard — they're just the sum total of my personal concern with either of the articles, because as a Canadian who isn't usually involved all that much in creating or contributing to articles about American politicians except for the occasional LGBT one, the fact that they're LGBT is their only relevance to my sphere of editing activity. What other categories they should or shouldn't be in is not my area of concern, or my job to figure out — at this time, my interest in these people begins and ends at the LGBT issue itself. Bearcat (talk) 18:40, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- The rules aren't different for any other category — for all political categories, the rule has always been to just use the endgame category right away rather than temporarily stopgapping them in a more general category for a few weeks and moving them to the endgame subcategory only later on. Members-elect to a legislature don't get placeholdered in "State politicians" for a few weeks before getting moved to the appropriate "members of Congress" or "members of the state legislature" subcategory only after January 8, and new mayors-elect don't get temporarily excluded from "Mayors of [City]", or confined to "State politicians" in the interim, just because they haven't already been sworn in as mayor yet — there's no value in transitional or temporary categorization, but rather a person just goes into the role-specific category right away, and it's the job of the article's body text to clarify the distinction between "sitting member" and "member-elect".
- @Bearcat: The category is for "members", and she's not yet a member. She's a member-elect. There are no other Congress "member" categories present there, like the Democratic member category of the member from Kansas category. Why should LGBT category be different? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter whether she's a sitting member yet or not — the category's point of distinction is not and never has been "sitting members in, members-elect out", but has always been "members and members-elect". And you didn't replace the members of Congress category with "LGBT politicians from the United States" — you simply removed it without adding any alternative category to place either Sharice Davids or Katie Hill in any "LGBT politicians from the United States" context at all. But at any rate, temporarily placeholdering somebody further up the tree for two months, and moving them to the endgame subcategory only after they've already been formally sworn in is not standard practice for that category tree — the article's body text certainly needs to be precisely accurate about the fact that she hasn't been sworn in yet, but there's no value in being so finicky about the categories that it would be useful or necessary to temporarily stopgap the article somewhere other than the endgame category for eight weeks pending a distinction that was never actually relevant to the endgame category's purpose in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 18:04, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello, any reason for this?:
- Muboshgu (talk | contribs) restored page David Trone (53 revisions)
Flooded with them hundreds 18:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Flooded with them hundreds: I didn't see any reason why the revisions were deleted in the first place, so I restored them. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Seems like they were deleted validly per G4 and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Trone. Flooded with them hundreds 18:40, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
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