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Halo Burger

You edit to the Halo Burger article was reverted because it is clearly false. Halo Burger was founded as Kewpee in 1923 and changed its name to Halo Burger in 1967 with the same management and food. Only the name was changed, everything else remained the same. Even Halo Burger's logo says "since 1923." Steelbeard1 (talk) 12:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for that :) GrahamHardy (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Now I'm trying to avert an edit war, but I need help with the Halo Burger article as I reached 3RR. Can you help? Steelbeard1 (talk) 21:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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I've got a question about this file and others like it: File:AnneOfAvonlea.jpg. This book was published in the USA before 1923 and is two-dimensional, so I'm wondering why it wasn't uploaded to commons? I've uploaded 100+ USA book covers and title pages using the commons tag ({{PD-US}}):

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Category:Highest points of English counties‎ and several other categories, which you created, have been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. __meco (talk) 09:06, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Hi Graham! This minor barnstar is for the major project you have been undertaking regarding categories and artworks - you come up frequently on my watchlist while updating the categories about public art! Thanks so much for your great work! Sarah (talk) 18:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Category:Sculptures

It's a bit late now, but is it actually a good idea to put sculptures just into a "by year" category? One of the main uses of categories is for searching for articles you can't quite remember the name of, and if they are tucked away only in a date category covering just a single year, this is likely to be impossible. I would have left them in the main category myself, or at least left them also in some larger category. They should at the least also be in a "by country" or "by city" etc category as well; please do this. Before embarking on any future schemes like this, please seek comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts (or whatever the appropriate project is). Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 19:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I think you're right - I'll go back and add country categories GrahamHardy (talk) 23:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --Jgmikulay (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 00:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

You're a boss categorizer! --RichardMcCoy (talk) 01:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I have been watching you

rip through my watchlist of sculptures at an amazing rate, doing good work all the way. However, I think that the travesty (opinion) National Monument to the U.S. Constitution‎ is made of silicone bronze, and I am not sure at all that this qualifies as bronze. And I am not a in aplace to check it out. Could you at leasat think about it, or I'll try later? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

According to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/silicon+bronze it is bronze with 2-3% silicon... GrahamHardy (talk) 17:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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Someone else undeleted it for you and it's now ended up in your userspace at User:GrahamHardy/Carol Topolski. If you don't want it you can just request speedy deletion, of course. Regards, Bencherlite<sup>Talk</sup> 01:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Not sure if it was intentionally done, but many thanks for going through most of my created articles and categorising them properly! (I count 20 in the last month!) Nikthestoned 11:14, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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Having just started a Colin Bostock-Smith article, I was doing a quick check for references to convert to links and noticed that you have a "todo" on your user page to create the same article. Obviously that's not possible now (I got there first, sorry :-) ), but I thought you'd like to know so that you can contribute to it yourself if you like.

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Hi, first of all I want to say I have read your contributions and I congratulate you for the excellency of your work. I would be exceedingly grateful if you could help editing an article. The book I refer to you is the Autobiography of a Yogi. I will try to make a small résumé of what is happening. The book was published in 1946. This first edition is being widely reprinted and can be freely read and downloaded (for years) in many sites, including the Guttember Project. One of the publishers, Self-Realization Fellowship (SRF) made literally hundreds of change in the text after the author´s death - without providing any proof of the author´s wishes to change the content of the book. They also removed and inserted photographs, changed photographs of yogis dressing them, etc. So, the book SRF publishes and sells can only be called a version. The article does not have a neutral point of view because its main editor (Red Rose) removes any of the controversy about these changes and the trajectory of the book. For you to have an idea, SRF even changed the author´s signature many years after his death wich makes us wonder if the other changes were his wishes. These are facts, not subjective opinion and SRF admits and even tries to explain the changes. Also, since there are many publishers reprinting the book - which is in public domain - the article could not be illustrated by the cover of one of the publishers (SRF) only. Either all of them should be included in the article, or only the original cover. I keep asking for an editor with experience in book articles to take a look and help to improve the article. Which is being used to advertise SRF´s version of the book, thus giving the impression Wikipedia sponsors SRF´s edition in detriment to the others. The text of the article is terrible. Since my English is not perfect, it would be a great help to have you rewriting the article. Just in the beginning it says: "Autobiography of a Yogi" is an autobiography. This is redundant and I cannot change this ugly repetition of words because they say it is a Wikipedia´s guideline to categorize the article. But I was reading well written articles and when the title of the book mentions the word "autobiography" the text goes on sayig something like: ... Autobiography of ... is a book written, or it is a mémoire, etc. Another point is the encyclpedic list of reprints of the book. Technically I think there could not be any new edition (book) of the book after the death of the author and without evidence of explicit instructions left by the author. Hoping to hear from you, I thank you for your attention. Tat Sat (talk) 14:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC) PS The cover of the first edition which is in public domain (as I have already mentioned) has just been wrongly marked for deletion, due to Red Rose mere opinion it could be copyrighted, without the presenting of any uncontested and uncontroversial factual assertion made by reliable sources. Red Roses allegations are buffling editors with good faith. I could upload it as fair use but then I would be giving a wrong information because no one detains the copyright of the first edition of the book. Thank you again, Tat Sat (talk) 14:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have very little understanding on the whys and wherefores and have no appetite for an argument; all I can suggest that if you fail and the image is deleted then let me know and I'll try uploading a smaller version of the actual original book (as at http://www.biblioteca-ga.info/50/toon/165/26 ) and try using the simple book cover template and see how that goes... Sorry I can't be more positive but I am more than happy to have a go separately myself if required, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your answer. The problem is not the size of the cover but the false allegation of copyrights. Instead of portraying the book as a literary text, the article advertises a sect. So the intention is to use the cover of SRF´s version. Nothing stirs people to such a frenzy of shame-faced excitement as unreasoning zeal. It´s so tiresome few people have the time to help improving the article. By the way, the first edition was the only book in Steve Jobs´ ipad - as you can read in his biography. It gives the book some near present notoriety. For 3 months now I have tried unsuccessfully so far editing the page. Do you have any suggestions of what I could try to do? Also the cover you found is the cover of a reprint. I uploaded the original one, since I own the first edition. How can I use the book cover template, please, and how can I tag the article as an autobiography without saing the "autobiography" is an autobiography? By the way, I do not belong to any of the sects involved in the book publication. But the changes made in the book have wrecked the minds of a couple of friends. Until they found out that even the author´s signature was forged they lost so much time... I am delighted with your help and wish you could edit the article but I don´t have the heart to insist since you would be in for not one, but many arguments. Thank you very much and sorry for the typos. Tat Sat (talk) 21:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

The image further down the page at http://www.biblioteca-ga.info/50/toon/165/26 appears to be the first edition. I have no real advice I'm afraid; happy to try uploading the image if your's is deleted. GrahamHardy (talk) 21:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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I see you deleted "Nothing Gold Can Stay" from the list of Frost's works at the end of his article. Would you be willing to add A Boy's Will to that list? As his first full-length volume of published poetry, it certainly should be there. As a non-registered user, I can't add it myself. (Yes, yes, I know, I should get an account....) 206.208.105.129 (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Done !GrahamHardy (talk) 20:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! 206.208.105.129 (talk) 14:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually, looking back at the entry, it looks like you added an entry for the 1915 (Henry Holt) American edition, rather than for the 1913 (David Nutt) British edition. I hate to trouble you again, but could you switch it around? (The text of the article, incidentally, does give the correct date.) Thanks again for your help! 206.208.105.129 (talk) 20:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I see you are cat'ing Viking Press books. Do you know whether Harmondsworth: Kestrel Books was a Viking Press imprint? (always or from what date?) Covering award-winning British children's books, I have wondered asked about this and compromised about linking "Kestrel" to Viking Press.

Here is one extended example: Thunder and Lightnings (Kestrel, 1976); Talk: Thunder and Lightning#Kestrel Books (July; my September reply to self is a red herring); Talk: Viking Press#Imprints.

Is there a group working on books by publisher? --P64 (talk) 23:05, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

No idea I'm afraid - my intention had been to do the obvious pubishers first and move on to trickier ones later ! Suspect Kestrel will be a subcategory of Viking Kestrel (assuming some books were published under "Viking Kestrel") which in turn will be a sub-category of Viking Books which is a subcategory of Penguin ! But I'm only doing the easy ones first... GrahamHardy (talk) 00:51, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Skimming your top page I see "illustrate Category: Newbery Honor winning works". Are there any example categories you have "illustrated"?

Please accept this point of entry to my concern about category prefaces --such as the time period and geographical setting categories for British fiction. (Let me insert a new section here altho it is no longer the bottom of the page.) -P64

Historical fiction by setting

Category:Novels set in sub-Roman Britain has a good preface. Many ancestor and neighbor categories have trivial prefaces that I am inclined to improved --motivated partly by evidence that I and others have made some mistakes around here, but this is a pet peeve of mine about wiki categories.

Please visit Talk: The Stronghold when you have a chance. It's the partly accidental place for many specific observations and questions. --P64 (talk) 17:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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I fixed the licensing information for File:MountainInterval.jpg to reflect this, and mentioned the above facts/cites on the talk page.

I notice you've uploaded some other public domain cover images with totally unnecessary fair-use rationale for pre-1923 images (eg, Our Mutual Friend).

I have no idea about other countries' laws. In particular, I have no idea about suitability of these images for WikiCommons.

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Beezus and Ramona cover

Are you sure the orange cover is the first edition cover? I'm 99.999999999% sure that both the first and second editions were Louis Darling illustrations. http://cd.pbsstatic.com/xl/86/8286/9780590118286.jpg http://img3.etsystatic.com/000/0/5169979/il_fullxfull.279239399.jpg

I believe that cover is the Alan Tiegreen cover. I didn't want to change anything without checking with you first, though. LoomisSimmons (talk) 06:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll check shortly, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 05:37, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I think you're right, which of the two you provide is the 1st edition ? Thanks, GrahamHardy (talk) 22:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, Re the last two Chrestomanci books by Diana Wynne Jones.

Do you have a copy of either UK first edition (or equivalent) that identifies the cover artist? S/he is distinct from the illustrators of UK (Slater, Rostant) and US (Newbold, Craig, Dorman) "recent" covers in the series --2000 to date. It's necessary to visit more than one title in the series at ISFDB because some entries that do identify cover artists are not linked to images. --P64 (talk) 03:24, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=5129058955 says that the Conrad's Fate illustrator is Tim Stevens; I have added this to the Infobox GrahamHardy (talk) 20:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=8806819709 says that The Pinhoe Egg has Tim Stevens as both illustratoe and cover artist; I have added these to the Infobox GrahamHardy (talk) 20:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Books by Publisher publishers

(I like the section heading but it fits the first paragraph only. Thus the bold heading.)

The subcats of Random House books for RH imprints or divisions or acquisitions, such as Chatto & Windus books, are also in cat Books by publisher. Is that double listing general so that the latter shows all the publishers/divisions/imprints whose books by publisher categories have been created? If not, is it general to the smaller number such as Chatto & Windus that were once independent publishers of some books covered by wikipedia articles?

Book series

Shouldn't we put Harry Potter books in Bloomsbury Publishing books and Scholastic books and remove the individual Harry Potter novels? I have in mind book series categories and articles, not Novels by J. K. Rowling if it happens that there has been one publisher for all them. Do you agree? Or disagree because there is one auxiliary Harry Potter book, not one of the famous novels, from a different publisher: The Tales of Beedle the Bard? (For Rowling among others, we have a novels by writer category that includes book articles on non-novels. I have no problem with it, at least for today.)

Series articles such as The Chronicles of Prydain may also be placed in books by publisher categories. Are you doing that at least where there is one publisher for a series? (Holt books have no category yet, iiuc.) I don't believe that categories need to be renamed for books and book series but I would say "Books and books series" in the Books by publisher category prefaces.

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Hi. "Preferred", I'm almost postive, means that an image from the 1st edtion is preferred to another edition. Since the image wasn't replaced with one from another edition, there is nothing to be preferred. I removed it basically because the image doesn't actually contribute to the article—it's not strongly associated with the book, and it doesn't contribute to understanding the article. Do you really believe the image makes "a significant contribution to the user's understanding of the article, which could not practically be conveyed by words alone"? Rather than a "significant" contribution, it seems to me that it makes no contribution at all. Fine if it were free, but hard to justify when it's a Fair Use image, I think. Curly Turkey (gobble) 21:30, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

I just follow Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Style_guidelines#Images which appears fairly clear, or at least always has done till now... GrahamHardy (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

It does appear fairly clear: "do you know why you are choosing that image and can you justify it?" Why was this image chosen? Does it improve the article? Does it improve the reader's understanding of the article's contents? Does it help the reader identify the book? If it were out of copyright, there'd be no issue, since it wouldn't actually harm the article, but it's pretty hard to rationalize how it improves the article. Curly Turkey (gobble) 00:41, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, as appeasement to the disinfobox crowd, I prefer to keep infobox parameters to a minimum. For example, are there any editions besides the first that are 230 pages? I have two copies (ISBN 9780553125160 and ISBN 978-0-385-24089-5), neither of which are 230 pages. This parameter is no more than misleading clutter. Ditto the publisher: it's been put out by Doubleday, Penguin, Anchor, Avon, and Bantam that I know of—quite likely several others, as well. Curly Turkey (gobble) 00:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Moved the debate to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels talk to be continued for wider debate...Hope that's OK GrahamHardy (talk) 08:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Not that I have any problem with it, but I think there was probably a more elegant way than just copying & pasting this whole discussion there. Curly Turkey (gobble) 12:13, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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Seriously, man, this is just obnoxious. You're well aware that I am not the only one objecting to this. Curly Turkey (gobble) 20:52, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

It is a pretty foul image I'll admit - moved into Publication history GrahamHardy (talk) 21:37, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

The issue, as I've already talked to you about, is not the placement of the image. If a cover image is going to be used, the infobox is probably the best place. The issue is using a Fair Use image when the image itself is never talked about at any point in the body of the text. If it were a Free image, it would do no harm—it would be decorative, anyways, if gratuitous.

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Let me begin with a belated "heads up" where I should have notified you five weeks ago. Recently at Template talk:Infobox book#Illustrator and cover artist, reviving a theme you raised last year, I suggested that when we do have a cover image we should use the image caption to identify the cover artist, as for The Borrowers (current version) and The Borrowers Afield (previous version, but the image no longer fits). When the cover artist is the illustrator, this replaced my previous suggestion that we use surname alone in the cover_artist field (the suggestion now holds only when we show no cover image). Either way, this affirms we know the cover artist of the image we show. One editor approved; no other replied.

I hope you will begin to use "F/first edition" rather than "1st edition" in the caption field of infobox book. A numeral should not begin a caption, as it should not begin a sentence. The infobox documentation elsewhere shows "(first edition)" for illustration and it uses '1st' only in documentary talk and code, not for illustration. I don't now find this point in the manual of style but I'll suggest somewhere that we not use ordinals such as '1st' at any position in prose (something now under discussion regarding dates).

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Sigh. Another discussion about a tiresome topic. Why oh why did you have to unlink United States and English language? The Way of Kings has the same layout, and I imagine Wikipedia would be glad if we linked these pages. So can you argument your change or revert it? Much appreciated. Greetings, --J.A.R. Huygebaert (talk) 17:22, 10 March 2014 (UTC)J.A.R. Huygebaert

I just used the model example given in Template:Infobox_book. I've seen MOS/OVERLINK cited also, give me a while to dig that out...GrahamHardy (talk) 17:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Fixed, not sure what happened there ! GrahamHardy (talk) 13:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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I thought they might not remain, I was sent there by the presence of Kendermore in Category:Novel has infobox needing 1st edition cover which I am working thorough, as it appears the talk pages still remain. The talk page Talk:Kendermore also says the novel is of Mid Importance so its curious it was merged, anyway I'm not arguing, if the image goes then it goes, althogh all the captions should be removed from the infoboxes...ThanksGrahamHardy (talk) 14:30, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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Graham Hardy, Thanks so much for getting the first edition book cover for every one of the twenty novels in the Cadfael Chronicles.

This is something I have not learned how to do, in particular the copyright stuff, and you did it all. The articles are so much better with those covers. It is interesting to see how they change in style over time, too. The Monk's Hood cover in particular, hard to see what the intent was -- showing the making of the external-use-only salve, or the small bottle that was tossed out the window? The others are clearer to me, at least. First edition cover for Virgin in the Ice, most impressive, artwork exactly to the point. Thanks! --Prairieplant (talk) 05:53, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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You are adding this for theaters completed in categories. However, this is probably not correct since all theaters are not commercial buildings. Many of these are associated with schools and are therefore not commercial. This would violate WP:CAT. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, Graham:

I took a very splendid photo last summer (2013) of the Verdi monument in Verdi Square, at W 73rd St and Broadway in Manhattan, and would like to release it under the GNU license system for use at this article and for the article on Verdi Square, the editors of which have been crying out for a good photo. It's been a long time since I sourced photos for other articles (never my own photo), and I know from experience that it can be tricky. Many photos I sourced completely within the guidelines of WP were summarily challenged and then deleted.

This time I would like to go about it in the right manner. If you have experience and knowledge of this sort, and can help make sure I am credited as the photographer, I would gladly work with you to get the photo into the article. I will also reach out to other editors of this article with the hopes that someone can step up to the plate and get the photo up properly.

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Just made deletion myself. -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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Bryant Nelson

Hi Graham. My name is Bryant Nelson. I saw that you were the last person to edit me and I would like to add a few things if that's ok with you. This is going to be my legacy and how a lot of people will judge me and my career.. Thanks for your time. Hope to hear from you soon. Yours Truly Bryant Nelson

Latest edit on Sjokz

Why was removing the Defaultsort Necessary?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sjokz&diff=656253518&oldid=655951021
--- :D Derry Adama (talk) 22:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

So that the article appears in the correct location within the categories, if you want Eefje Depoortere to appear in the categories also I am happy to create a redirect, please advise, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 09:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

There is already a redirect, Eefje Depoortere, so if it's better to do what you plan, certainly go ahead --- :D Derry Adama (talk) 20:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

All done, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Sorting Brazilian/Spanish footballers

Hi Graham, how are you?

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Thank you, MYS77 <sup>✉</sup> 03:51, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Can you PLEASE READ what I wrote to you before? Thank you, MYS77 <sup>✉</sup> 03:06, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I do read, I leave most as they are, but changed this one because of Template:Clube Atlético Paranaense squad which has E Junio... GrahamHardy (talk) 07:48, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I see. Although it was written in the intro "known as Edigar Junio", but thanks for your reply. Cheers, MYS77 <sup>✉</sup> 03:18, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Default sort

I saw you changed the DEFAULTSORT in Haliru Mohammed Bello from "Haliru Mohammed Bello" to "Bello, Haliru Mohammed". I think this is incorrect. The Hausa/Fulani do not have surnames in the European sense. Local newspapers may call the subject "Mr. Mohammed", as in [2], or may call him "Bello", as in [3]. The BBC calls him "Bello Mohammed Haliru", so do some local sources, e.g. [4]. Another local source uses Haliru Bello Mohammed [5]. Whatever you choose as the sort key is wrong. It is probably best to just use the article title, which is also wrong. Aymatth2 (talk) 11:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

undone Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 13:00, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks. I forgot to mention "Bello Haliru Mohammed" and "Mohammed Haliru Bello". It is impossible to get it right. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

'Leave it to Psmith' cover

Hi Graham,
I'm curious about the cover illustrated here. The caption says that it's from the US first edition (which the text says was published "14 March 1924 by George H. Doran, New York") but this [6] has "A.L. Burt Company" with no mention of Doran, and on the Doran wikipedia page there's no mention of A.L. Burt, so I'm confused. Is there some information missing somewhere? Thanks --TyrS 03:34, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Didn't look right, I have changed it ! Hope this one is correct GrahamHardy (talk) 09:10, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that Graham. I do think there's a connection between AL Burt & Doran but haven't been able to find documentation.--TyrS 03:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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I've just undone your attempt to move Janine Gordon via cut and paste. That's not acceptable, because it breaks the chain of attribution in the edit history. I'm looking to see if the situation is clear-cut enough to move the page without discussion; otherwise, you'll need to open WP:RM discussion about the title. —C.Fred (talk) 12:44, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Looking at the article, it seems like Jah Jah is her common name, but that's in use. I don't think it's clear-cut to move to MC Jah Jah, so I suggest starting discussion on a requested move to get broader consensus. —C.Fred (talk) 12:50, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Re the categories by year, I have added navigation templates to the series for "Buildings and Structures" and "Sports venues" eg Category:Buildings and structures demolished in 2010 and Category:Sports venues demolished in 2010 Hugo999 (talk) 10:47, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

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So i see you repeatedly change the default sort on 4-5 articles like "Mascara Dorada" as if the last name was "Dorada". It is not, his name means "Golden Mask" and should not sort by Dorada. Just like."Green Arrow" should not sort by "Arrow" or "Lone Ranger" not sorting by "Ranger". Even if sme article uses just "Dorada" that does not make it his last name. Please stop changing these, they are correct already.  MPJ-US  00:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Same here: [7] and [8]. I had to undo those edits. 91.152.204.249 (talk) 14:01, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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I'm puzzled by this. It certainly does not seem to meet wp:Minor, and the edit comment seems incorrect. "To my missionary critics" was published in the April 1901 issue of The North American Review (available on JSTOR). If there is something else published between, then should that something else not have been inserted in lieu of the deletion? LeadSongDog come howl! 22:46, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, from the Infobox Book documentation : preceded_by should contain the Title of prior book in series and followed_by should contain Title of subsequent book in series or sequel.

These fields are not meant to hold the last written and next written books, but only to indicate order within a series... OK ? GrahamHardy (talk) 22:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:44, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for the entry in wiki... Good to see it there. I have some minor additions and corrections .. Might you do these for me? Thanks again though for initiating this. Sue Gillingham Susan Gillingham (talk) 11:03, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I think User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa is who you should speak to, as he appears to be the main contributor to your article, I just made a little tweak, thanks...GrahamHardy (talk) 11:09, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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removing a working ISBN

Dear GrahamHardy,
I am not sure what drives you to remove an ISBN from a book article like Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison (novel). I also mentioned with my revert that "you can in fact find this title by this isbn on a couple of online databases and on books.google.com, so pls leave it there". You changed it again anyway. Are you up for an unreasonable edit war? Edit wars do not look sane to me. --johayek (talk) 18:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just following the guidelines given in Template:Infobox book, if you do not agree with these guidelines then I suggest you continue the discussion there ! GrahamHardy (talk) 18:38, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

I cannot confirm you are saying the truth. You removed an ISBN that some online databases know and some online databases don't. The article you are quoting does not say that GrahamHardy must remove an ISBN that amazon does not know, does it? I consider your repeated removal of the ISBN as vandalism. --johayek (talk) 13:16, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Have you looked at Template:Infobox book ? Another option is to include a publication history section to the article where all relevant ISBNs can be included GrahamHardy (talk) 15:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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Great work. Thanks! Rwood128 (talk) 12:02, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Your upload of File:Seven Days in New Crete Cover.jpg

You uploaded a new image (quite interesting, by the way), but didn't adequately update the information. Bob Foster and Avon publishers had absolutely nothing to do with the cover whose image you uploaded... AnonMoos (talk) 19:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Well spotted, now fixed, thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

The Color Kittens

Hi GrahamHardy, just to let you know that i have reverted your edit of the cover title at the above article as the picture is not of the 1st edition but of a later edition. please see Talk:The Color Kittens. thanks, Coolabahapple (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

thanks, picture looks greatCoolabahapple (talk) 15:00, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Image for The Little Grey Men

I took a closer look at my copy of "The Little Grey Men" and it is a 1965 UK reprint of the third edition (labelled "Seventh Printing" on the front flap.) Perhaps by the third UK edition, listed as 1952, they had started using the cover from the American edition, if that's what this is? Either way, it is possible that this is actually a better example of Watkins-Pitchford's art than the original cover, and we might want to continue using it for his article, while using the original cover for the book article. But it doesn't make much difference either way. Brianyoumans (talk) 15:50, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Defaultsort

Hello there GH, from Portugal,

even though I did have an account, now I do not, "courtesy" of a troll that almost hounded me into retirement, I asked then that my account be vanished because I had the intention of leaving forever... Anyway, 10 years in October since I started, and counting!

Now, for the title of this message: Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish footballers ofter have that specifics about them where they are known by a nickname or their first name. In the case of the latter, the first name is at times TWO names (i.e. Juan Pedro, Juan Pablo, like the late Pope John Paul II, he was not known as John or Paul, but as both). So, I think the defaultsort field should reflect this and, in for example Joan Tomàs Campasol, it should be under the letter "J" not "T", as player is not known as Tomàs.

Attentively, happy editing --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:07, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

I think the reason I changed the Defaultsort is that throughout the article he is referred to as Tomas, not John Tomas...GrahamHardy (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, will get to it immediately! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:31, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

default sort too

Greetings. I noticed a couple of your default sort edits actually being wrong and wanted to.be sure you are aware of why i reverted them. Both deal Mexican pro wrestlers who use ring names that are not proper names. Pimpinela Escarlata is Spanish for "Scarlet Pimpernel" thus should not sort Escarlata.as if it was his last name. Pirata Morgan Jr's first name is not "Pirata" and should notbsort by M but by P. I know we cannot be aware of every detail, but I.just wanted to.clarify why i reverted those.  MPJ-US  19:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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What is defsort edit? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_False_Prince_(novel)&curid=49458894&diff=707198203&oldid=705585562 --Captain Spark (talk) 12:12, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Just added a DEFAULTSORT parameter which determines where, alphabetically an article appears in the Categories to which it belongs...GrahamHardy (talk) 20:01, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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DEFAULTSORT

I see others have left comments as well. What is the source of the rule by which you assigned DEFAULTSORT for Mary Kay, Arthur D. Little, S. C. Johnson & Son etc.? What you've done runs contrary to everything I've ever seen with respect to alphabetizing organization names. In particular, it's inconsistent with The Chicago Manual of Style and Association of Records Managers and Administrators (ARMA) filing rules Rule 6. Thank you. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 06:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

I'll not change any more, Sorry GrahamHardy (talk) 10:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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Cindy can't have any more kids. --Allygggggg (talk) 17:58, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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The Silver Sword

I recently had occasion to visit The Silver Sword article again, and I started to wonder if the cover is really the first edition. It does look like 1950s, but is it the original? As you are so good at finding first edition covers, could you take a look? Thanks. Robina Fox (talk) 20:36, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

I think you're right, replaced with 1st edition image... :-) GrahamHardy (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hello GrahamHardy, Seek advise to remove neutrality tag. Corrections are made to maintain neutrality. References and citations are checked for verifiability. There are no disputes and the neutrality tag is remaining for long time without any activity. Looking forward to your suggestions to improve the article further to remove the tag. Mzqerd001 (talk) 04:28, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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Explaining the genre novel you asked about at WP:VPT

Hi. In case you wanted more info:

{{Infobox book}} has the code | data15 = {{#invoke:Wikidata|getValue|P136|{{{genres|{{{genre|FETCH_WIKIDATA}}}}}}}} which gives data15 the value of {{{genres}}}, {{{genre}}} or the result of invoking Module:Wikidata's getValue function with the request to {{{FETCH_WIKIDATA}}}.

That's where the novel value will have come from; since no genre was explicitly defined, the code falls back to requesting wikidata about the genre if there is any.

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While I agree that we cannot use it to categorise films, how do we use it to identify films? Do we say, "Chandralekha is a 1948 Indian historical fiction film", or something else? Kailash29792 (talk) 09:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Indian historical films I guess...GrahamHardy (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

What about Category:Historical fiction films? Kailash29792 (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I suspect the assumption is that a historical film is a historical fiction film, otherwise I guess it would be a documentary film...GrahamHardy (talk) 10:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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I saw you changed the default sort for Bárbaro Cavernario, but it looks like you did not actually pay attention to the article? "Bárbaro Cavernario" means "Barbarian Caveman", his last name is not "Caveman" so don't make it sort by it.  MPJ-US  11:27, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I saw he was referred to as "Cavernario" several times in the article itself so used that as my justification, but happy to leave alone now, thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 12:39, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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say something like, why havent you archived your talk page recently. In this case it is important what I see. However, as this is on wiki and open to the colander like nature of eyes in every orifice, I was wondering if youd take a look at something... your call, not the slightest bothered if you ignore, or look the other way ... JarrahTree 00:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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Re this edit - North Norfolk District did not exist in Cubitt's lifetime. Mjroots (talk) 06:44, 25 September 2016 (UTC);

That has crossed my mind, leave it with me, thx GrahamHardy (talk) 09:28, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

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Deleting mistake categories

FYI, rather than blanking categories to delete them as you did with Category:People from Sandringham, it's better to tag them with {{db-self}} which sends them directly for deletion rather than needing someone else to tag them for deletion.Le Deluge (talk) 23:02, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

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Humphrey Repton

Hi Graham. I've noticed you have added Repton to people from North Norfolk category. I know he worked and died in Norfolk but he didn't originate from the area. Sorry can't see the connection. Northmetpit (talk) 10:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

My understanding is that 'people from' does not just mean born in or originate from, it also covers where you lived for an appreciable time, which Repton appears to have done...GrahamHardy (talk) 10:37, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your swift reply and helpful answer. Northmetpit (talk) 12:00, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

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Dear Graham, Thank you for your addition of Aaron Scharf to the category "People born in North North Hampshire". I had no idea he was born or lived there. Do you have any more information on Scharf? I'd be most grateful if you would add it to the article. There is scant information on him. Much obliged, James Jamesmcardle<sup>(talk)</sup> 02:55, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

North Norfolk, not North Hampshire...GrahamHardy (talk) 13:10, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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"Nader El-Bizri" article for your attention!

Dear Graham Hardy, based on your technical knowledge and your role as master editor, I wanted to bring an urgent matter to your attention: It seems that I caused some confusions around the Wikipedia entry "Nader El-Bizri" when I first un-did an edit with tags and then contacted the Wikipedia NoticeBoard & Miscellaneous Queries about it without knowing that a casual editor like me should not do so! Tags were placed on the entry and even some suggested that it should be deleted altogether, or that it was copied from the website of a school in Lebanon even though this Wikipedia entry dates back to 2008, and it is clear that it was Mirrored by the school and not the other way round. Some editors might have acted in haste but with the good intention of protecting the entry from vandalism. This Wikipedia article received over 359 edits since 2008, including some by you, and it has numerous links across Wikipedia and to many reputable external websites as well. I am just bringing this to your attention since maybe my unintentional confusions with my casual edits caused all of these editorial issues, and I do not want that my casual edits result in harm to the reputation of the actual living person who is covered by the article, and who based on the various Google searches has a broad public persona of notability. I have been dismissed by the editors who hold usernames since I am not registered via Wikipedia and I only casually edit here and there when I can. I hope you do not mind me bringing this matter to your attention... I have understood now that as a casual editor I am not allowed to make edits or contribute as such to talk pages unless I am fully registered with Wikipedia (or at least this is what has been conveyed to me through the talk pages by some users). Thank you for your consideration of this matter since I feel partly responsible for some of this editorial confusion and I feel I should not longer make edits... Thank you 2A02:C7D:36C6:8300:DCDF:6069:402F:B06 (talk) 20:00, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

In some benign wp:CANVASSING

Community input is politely requested for Jimbo's tkpg with regard ur expertise in gen. notability per wp:GNG & applicabilities of eg wp:PROF, wp:AUTH, etc. w/in AfD's
... here: User talk:Jimbo Wales#Suggested fix.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 01:01, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Wierd test edits

Sorry, those are some of my weird test edits for reasons which only I know (Francis D'souza)! -Polytope4d (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

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Issues with articles on novels

Hi, GrahamHardy, you have been responsible for an admirably wide coverage of modern novels over the years. However, although you frequently revisit your articles to make small adjustments, you don't seem to be revising them in the light of Wikipedia guidelines, several of which you routinely transgress. Could I ask you to look at some of the issues I raise below?

• Your plot summaries seem lifted from the back of the works in question and are inadequate as per WP:PLOTSUM. In particular you avoid spoilers.
• At times you use bullet points unnecessarily, whereas editors are encouraged to prefer prose exposition as per WP:USEPROSE
• The Reception sections are inadequate, and sometimes are lifted from the works themselves, where the publishers naturally only highlight favourable reviews. This is not in accord with WP:NPOV. The relevant Style Manual entry gives advice on how such entries should be written at MOS:NOVELS.

Senior editors have lately been reviewing WP policy in an effort to bring it up to encyclopaedic standards. I could follow in your track, freely using the Delete function, as I did recently at Shuttlecock (where I have yet to rewrite the plot summary), but you would probably make a better and more sensitive job of it! Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 16:36, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Slightly confused, what is wrong with "and is said to be the best of his earlier novels" taken from page 431 of Good Fiction Guide ed. Jane Rogers, 2nd edition published 2005 by OUP>? And where does "following a period of ups and downs" come from ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 19:29, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

"The best of his early novels" doesn't make much sense without a definition of which those are. If it's the first three, then declaring "Shuttlecock" better than "Waterland" is controversial and requires further documentation. But if Jane Rogers is just saying the second novel is better than the first, it's hardly earth-shattering and anyway means nothing without an explanation. A source consisting simply of an expression of opinion isn't enough to command respect. There are far too many statements in Wikipedia of the kind that "this work was considered the greatest thing since sliced bread according to a readers' survey published in"...Readers Digest or whatever. That's no more than a piece of empty-headed journalism. An editor ought to exercize judgment before retailing such questionable trash. As for "after a period of ups and downs", that's a summary of what is said in the linked article. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 21:28, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

So a quote taken from the Good Fiction Guide ed. Jane Rogers, 2nd edition published 2005 by OUP is questionable trash is it ? Think we'll continue this discussion in the Wikiproject novels, you may well be right but I'm losing the will. Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 22:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm also struggling to understand whats having ups and downs and where it comes from ! GrahamHardy (talk) 22:55, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Questionable trash, I feel got at, GrahamHardy (talk) 22:57, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Not sure i can be bothered to fight - change what you like. GrahamHardy (talk) 22:58, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Lifes too short ! GrahamHardy (talk) 22:59, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Abu Eesa Niamatullah

Hello! I am notifying interested projects and editors that I've listed Abu Eesa Niamatullah for discussion at AfD, and you were listed on the revision history page.

I invite you to contribute to the discussion. Mujaddouda (talk) 23:33, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Mick Quinn

Was just browsing the edit history on the article for former Supergrass bass player Mick Quinn, and noticed that you added the following text which led to the page later being protected:

"This slogan is ironic, as Quinn is known to have never fought a man in his life. He has, however, hit women and children (female) several times."

Could you please advise what basis you had to make such a claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.185.92 (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

That is not something I would ever have added. I have no idea how my name came to be associated with that update, all very worrying, I can only apologise for what was added in my name... GrahamHardy (talk) 18:37, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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James L. Alcorn

Thanks for changing the category. I should have changed it myself. He lived in a place called "Eagles Nest', east of Friars Point. I took the photo of his grave that is in the article. Eagles Nest is nearby. This is one of the poorest places in the United States. I wrote most of Jonestown, Coahoma County, Mississippi. Read the description in the economy section. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:30, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

HotCat

Did you know you could add more than one category at once? Instead of clicking "OK" after each addition, click the plus sign until you're done... then to the left of the Category footer, click "Save". You might know this but maybe not. It might save some time. Same goes for removing. --Jennica✿ / <sup>talk</sup> 09:04, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have tried that in the past and got in a pickle, I'll have another go some time, Thanks for the advice, 'so many categories, so little time...' GrahamHardy (talk) 19:40, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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Lena d'Água

Hello there GH, from Portugal,

i apologize for my action in this article (even more so because i did not write a summary). I honestly thought (maybe it was back then, but not anymore) that the defaultsorts did not display well with apostrophes/commas/hyphens/caps, I remember reading something along those lines in the past.

Happy editing, sorry for any possible inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Sorting

Maybe you should create a section at WT:FOOTY asking for input to gather more consensus, then. I already replied you there. Cheers, MYS77 <sup>✉</sup> 22:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

• In fact, I think your consensus is already pretty clear on WP:MCSTJR. MYS77 <sup>✉</sup> 22:14, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

David Braz is not known primarily by his first name only, he is known primarily as David Braz, so not pretty clear to me... GrahamHardy (talk) 23:01, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson

I'd noticed that on Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson, the default sort names were in the wrong order with first name first. I wonder if you can check to see if I have done it correctly. Iggy (talk) 12:39, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Looks good, I added a couple of sorts...Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 17:32, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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Robert Wilson (Music for Youth) rename

I have been asked by Robert Wilson to change the title of his page. I have tried to find a way of editing it myself but don't have access. Could you rename the page:

Robert Wilson MBE

KariDun (talk) 17:17, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Moved to Robert Wilson (music entrepreneur), as I'm not sure honours should be part of titles... ThanksGrahamHardy (talk) 09:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Removing DEFAULTSORT

Please don't remove the {{DEFAULTSORT:}} when one or more of the rules at WP:SORTKEY apply. For instance, at St Lawrence (Isle of Wight) railway station you removed the {{DEFAULTSORT:Saint Lawrence Railway Station}} - instead, it should have been amended to {{DEFAULTSORT:Saint Lawrence Isle of Wight railway station}} because "St" is an abbreviation, and so is covered by WP:SORTKEY item 4 "Spell out abbreviations ... used in place of words"; and the parentheses are similarly covered by item 5 "All other punctuation marks should be removed." --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:17, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Deni Bown

I reverted your edit here because the Daily Mail is discouraged as a source - see WP:DAILYMAIL. Please find a different source if you can. Home Lander (talk) 00:39, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

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You say "replace HarperCollins edition (1990)"

Harper Trophy?

by 1st edition, published by Lothrop, Lee & Shepard

do you know that its the first edition? (From a quick glance at the history, I think you think so [9].) It now says "4 edition".

If it is the 1st ed., presumably the cover illustrator is Schick, the interior artist named on the cover. If you have the book, can you check that. Since we name 4 interior artists, I suggest we then state as caption "Schick cover of 1st ed." or equivalent. --P64 (talk) 00:48, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Graham, I've just noticed your addition of Category:People from Rushcliffe (district) to Jack Dowsey. According to the sources, he was born in Willington, County Durham and there is no mention in the article of ties to Rushcliffe. As categories should be supported by the article text, I've reverted this, but feel free to readd it if you can add something to the article which supports its inclusion. Thanks, Nzd (talk) 02:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Place of death: Costock, England was my reasoning...GrahamHardy (talk) 20:25, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. I had noticed that but I'm not sure this signifies a particular tie to the area. Having written most of the article text, I didn't come across one (although I didn't spend significant time researching him so that's not to say there isn't). The article, as it is, doesn't mention anything about him living there even and, according to the relevant guideline, place of death is not normally categorised. Nzd (talk) 23:42, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

No worries, if we find he was living in Costock when he died then it can be changed back, thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 23:44, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

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I'm trying to disambiguate "Dorothy Summers" on the article about actress Vicky McClure. Do you know if the former is a retailer in England? Here's the sentence: "After starting a drama foundation course at the local college on leaving school, she left to work in retail, initially for H. Samuel and then Dorothy Summers." Thank you.
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Dorothy Perkins or Ann Summers, but not Dorothy Summers! GrahamHardy (talk) 21:11, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes it should be Dorothy Perkins as per https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jul/17/vicky-mcclure-nothing-i-do-will-ever-top-working-with-shane-meadows

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Hi Sorry to blther u I'm new here and i wanted to ask u I saw that u are one of those who edited Ólína Guðbjörg Viðarsdóttir And that she is in a lesbian football player She and her partner Edda Garðarsdóttir both are football players that can be both put under a new category:LGBT sportspeople from Iceland which will be under this category: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_sportspeople_by_nationality Instead of how edda is icelandic but has no mention to it and olina is a sportspeople with no category Can u do it please and thx and sorry to bother u

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Can you create a new page please

Hi sorry to bother u again And please respond with a yes or no this time so i know if i should ask another editor

but can u pls Create this timeline page by translating it from spanish 

Its an important page misding in english wiki Whenever u can or have time https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Cronología_de_la_despenalización_de_la_homosexualidad_por_país AdamPrideTN (talk) 03:03, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Unsure why you ask me, is it because I am in Spain ? GrahamHardy (talk) 08:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi no its just that u seem to be on lgbt wiki project and u edit some pages and create ones sorry to bother u anyway Ok i will ask another editor ok So can u at least in the table of same sex marriage in faroe islands edit the first table under the map in gay marriage since 2017 it redericts to denmark and not to faroe island marriage page Can u fix that please Sorry again

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