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May 4

Derby Day USA

Factoid - Kentucky Derby (Day) Changes w each calendar year (as Determined by race track officials) Louisville, Kentucky USA 157.100.71.13 (talk) 00:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

sorry, what? lettherebedarklight晚安 00:20, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Kentucky Derby says it is "almost always on the first Saturday in May". Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:25, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Upload file?

How do I upload a file? I wanna upload the album cover of The Prophecy by Ninja Sex Party, but I cannot seem to find out where the upload file page is. HoveringSombrero (talk) 01:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@HoveringSombrero: Go to Wikipedia:File upload wizard, click on the non-free image button, and follow the instructions. -Arch dude (talk) 01:43, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

When I click on the button, it just refreshes the page. It does not take me to a new page. - HoveringSombrero (talk) 14:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@HoveringSombrero: Strange. I cannot see what happened, so try using this alternative: Wikipedia:Files for upload. -Arch dude (talk) 03:14, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Improving sentence structure

Have my latest edits to medical conditions actually improved sentence structure or violated the Manual of Style?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeschylus (talk • contribs) 02:05, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

I searched and found that this was added by Aeschylus. The most recent in Aeschylus's list of contributions is this. Aeschylus, I get the impression that you dislike the passive. The passive is a fully grammatical, very convenient and with rare exceptions (exemplified by the weaselly/risible "mistakes were made") fully acceptable device for changing the valency of an English verb, most suitable when the identity of the doer of the deed is of little or no importance to what is being said. (Highly recommended: "Fear and loathing of the English passive".) -- Hoary (talk) 03:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Some of the changes are good. However, going from "If normal thoracic duct drainage is disrupted" to "If disruption of normal thoracic duct drainage occurs"; from "Chylothorax can also be congenital" to "Chylothorax can also occur congenitally"; from "It is especially common in surgeries requiring mediastinal dissection" to "in particular, it frequently complicates surgeries requiring mediastinal dissection": each of these seems unfortunate to me. (Only the first of these three goes from passive to active, of course. Another possible explanation: you have an odd aversion to the verb be.) There are more besides, but three examples should be enough to make my point. -- Hoary (talk) 08:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok. When are to be verbs a good idea and when are they a bad idea?
I have heard that they are a bad idea, but I want to know when they are useful and then they clutter the sentence.
In addition, which of my changes were good compared to my bad changes? I want to know the difference between my good and my bad changes so I can avoid future issues.
Additionally, when is combining sentences a good idea? I want to remove clutter/wordiness from a sentence. What should I look out for? I used to have a great obsession with length, so added a lot of meaningleff fluff to my articles. How can I amke the text concise but easy to understand? aeschylus (talk) 20:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Aeschylus, there are few simple rules. When you say that you've heard "to be verbs" are "a bad idea", I suppose that you mean some talk about occurrences of be somehow degrading the sentences they're in. Of course this is possible. I can add an utterly superfluous be to a sentence above, resulting in "It is especially common in surgeries is requiring mediastinal dissection". This is ungrammatical. But a writer of English as a first language who has no language impairment (and who isn't senile, drunk, very sleepy, etc) wouldn't accept this sentence. You're probably not asking about that kind of thing. As for uses of be that aren't ungrammatical, I can't think of any that's stylistically undesirable. You say you want to remove clutter and wordiness, but these should be examples of clutter and wordiness that stand out when you read them, not those that you identify via some "rule" propounded by the kind of fool "language expert" who tells people that they should avoid adjectives (a link I warmly recommend). -- Hoary (talk) 07:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Hoary, if possible, can you please show me a good and bad change I made so I can compare the two take into account what was helpful? When adding new content, I want to know if my structure is appropriate for Wikipedia. aeschylus (talk) 04:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Aeschylus, please choose a sizeable paragraph you wrote that's of some concern to you, and, on your user page, point to it (or make a copy of it), and ping me to draw my attention to this new message. I'll read the paragraph and see whether there's any particular comment on it that I think is worth making. -- Hoary (talk) 05:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@Aeschylus The PDF linked above is a good read. It discusses the relatively recent shunning of the verb "to be". I would argue that the advice you heard, that "to be" is bad, is bad advice. David10244 (talk) 05:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Aeschylus, I've looked at your recent edits, and for me, most of them make the text harder to understand. The most recent introduced a grammatical error: "Surgery has in other animals has had limited success". Maproom (talk) 07:47, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

uploading image in infobox but says connection error

i am creating a bio graphy of a person that is not available on wikipedia, in the section of info box i am trying to uploading image in infobox but says connection error, while my connection is good Nasir Gondal Wiki (talk) 08:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Nasir Gondal Wiki If you are trying to upload the image directly to this Wikipedia, you lack the permissions needed as your account is not yet autoconfirmed. If you took the image yourself, you may upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Please see Files for Upload if you did not take the image yourself.

It seems you are trying to write about yourself, please read the autobiography policy.

Note that images are not relevant to the draft approval process, which only considers the text and sources. You don't need to add an image right away. 331dot (talk) 08:33, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Article counter per saved articles folder is fake

Hi there, Am I the only one who has noticed that the article counter is sometimes wrong? I mean, for some folders of saved articles it does show the correct number of saved articles, whereas for some others it is wrong. By the way, none of my articles is available off-line, just in case someone decides to re-produce the problem. 87.255.2.43 (talk) 08:30, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Are you using a Wikipedia app? Which one? —Kusma (talk) 08:33, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

yep, the latest version from Google Play for Android. 87.255.2.43 (talk) 09:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

See https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Bug_reporting for the instructions to report bugs in the app. —Kusma (talk) 03:20, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Change to relevant category

I have submitted article, but I am unable to change the categories. would like display article in art, interior designing, nyc inter designing category. Please guide me.

Madhukogan (talk) 10:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Madhukogan Assuming this is about your Draft:The Designers Group, we don't categorise drafts, only accepted articles. There are various ways to add categories to items in mainspace but the most versatile is probably the WP:HOTCAT gadget. (Some people do add potential categories to the foot of their drafts in a way that means the actual category pages are not populated but I think that is a waste of time since it won't help the review of the draft.) Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Understood. Yes it was for draft article. Thanks for the help Madhukogan (talk) 12:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Copyright

I wish to use the aerial photo of the airfield in 1916, shown on Villers-Outréaux website, the photo if I can obtain permission will be used in an article for Flypast magazine published by Key Publishing UK.

Sincerely,

Anthony Moor AJMoor (talk) 13:50, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

The file in question is hosted on Commons, and is listed as public domain. [1] See the notice on file status there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

In other words, there is no copyright on that image and it can be used by anybody for any purpose with no restrictions. Cullen328 (talk) 17:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

HotCat not loading

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I noticed that despite downloading HotCat on my Wikipedia account (a long time ago) HotCat doesn't show up in the Categories section. Is this a bug or something? -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 14:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Shadow of the Starlit Sky I don't know how HotCat was set up in the past but it is now an option within the gadgets/editing section of Special:Preferences. Are your preferences ticked correctly? See WP:HOTCAT for details. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

AFAIK I did set it up in Preferences. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 15:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merging an article

Hi all. I was browsing Wikipedia when I saw an article that had a deletion discussion closed as merge, but the merge has not been performed yet after more than a month since the closure of the discussion. How would I carry out this process myself? Can I? Article in question is Boo (character). — theki (hit me up) 14:22, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Merging#How to merge has the step-by-step instructions. --Jayron32 14:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Changing the name of a page

Hello,

I want to change the name of Deborah Berke Partners to TenBerke because they changed their name. Martiacosta (talk) 16:38, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Martiacosta I have undone most of the changes you made to that article. I left the new name in, but also added the old name back in. I got rid of the long, unsourced list of awards you added, and the list of completed projects you added (leaving the ones that were already there). Now, as for the article's title; see WP:NAMECHANGES. Basically we don't move an article automatically when an entity changes its name. We wait until we have sources demonstrating that the new name is the name being used by most sources. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:53, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Ok thanks, but the long list of awards I added did have sources as well as a lot of the projects. I can readd them and link to the websites... Martiacosta (talk) 17:25, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Martiacosta, based on your username, you seem to not only have a conflict of interest with this subject, but to be a paid editor. Please read WP:PAID and follow the disclosure requirements. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

What to do if the administration of Wikipedia ignores the request?

Short description. I am a rather active editor of my national Ukrainian branch of Wikipedia. More than half a year ago, my account was restricted from creating new articles. I asked to remove this restriction, but the administrators ignore my request. What should I do if the administrators ignore the request? Who can help with ukrainian group of admins?

* I corrected that problematic article for which restrictions were imposed on me. BlackStar1991 (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@BlackStar1991, English Wikipedia has no control over other Wikipedias. The only folks with cross-platform powers are Wikimedia's stewards - see here. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 20:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

thanks for help BlackStar1991 (talk) 20:37, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

IP Addresses

how do i report a suspicious IP address who's only edit is support in a discussion. Everyone in the discussion is in support as well so i can't tell if he's a sock or if he is who's sock is it? Blitzfan51 (talk) 20:19, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Which discussion? Without seeing the context it's hard to know if I should point you to {{Single-purpose account}}, or WP:AIV or WP:ANI or WP:SPI or tell you to leave it alone, or something else. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:30, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

it's here. Blitzfan51 (talk) 22:57, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Blitzfan51, IPv6 addresses for a single user can change over time. In most cases, addresses with the same initial 64 bits belong to the same person. See IPv6 address for more details. In practical terms, if you append "/64" to the URL of an IPv6 user's contributions page, you can see all of their contributions. In this particular case, Special:Contributions/2601:5CE:4380:3A0:40FC:A02C:968:6D1C shows only one contribution, but Special:Contributions/2601:5CE:4380:3A0:40FC:A02C:968:6D1C/64 shows many more. The most likely explanation is their address changed recently and they have made only one contribution under the new address so far. CodeTalker (talk) 00:51, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Dash

In "MOS:DASH" this type of dash is not listed: "--" (broken). The sentence in question is as follows: "Earlier texts, such as the 1340 treatise De Heraudie, for example, makes no mention of the rule--even when discussing armorial bearings that violate the supposed rule. Other 14th century authors like Bartolo and Johannes de Baudo Aureo do not make mention of the rule either.[2]" (I have indicated the dashes in bold). Page: "Rule of tincture". JackkBrown (talk) 22:20, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

In "MOS:DASH" this type of dash is not listed: "--" (broken). Really? I didn't have to read very far before I found this:

Do not use a double hyphen (--) to stand in for a dash.

The obvious solution to the sentence in Rule of tincture is to replace the double hyphen with an 'approved' dash; either a spaced ndash or an mdash; you choose.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk: I meant that this hyphen, among the dashes that it is correct to use, doesn't exist (as specified in the "MOS:DASH" guide), and I didn't know if the person who wrote the sentence wanted to use the en dash or the em dash. JackkBrown (talk) 23:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

You did not say that. When writing posts here, say what you mean and mean what you say. It does not matter what that other editor wanted. This is wikipedia; tons and tons of stuff is broken or malformed. Out of 6,820,679 articles, you found one where hyphens are used in a way that is contrary to the MOS. WP:SOFIXIT. How you do that (which 'dash' you use) is entirely up to you.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:29, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

May 5

Mzee jomo kenyatta son

he was the son of mzee jomo kenyatta from his first wife grace wahu Ben muya (talk) 04:20, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

OK. What do you expect volunteers here at the Help Desk to do with that information?

If you want to suggest a change to a Wikipedia article, please do so on the WP:talk page of the article - preferably with a citation of a reliable source for the information. Information that you know (or that I know) is not acceptable in a Wikipedia article without a source. ColinFine (talk) 11:20, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

How to change the preview of Lusitania

When you hover over the link of "Lusitania" in the Background section of the page Titanic, the only thing it shows is the picture and "it was made in 1569". How do I change this? Kzhangak (talk) 04:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Kzhangak: this was caused by vandalism in the RMS Lusitania article that has been reverted. -Arch dude (talk) 05:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arch dude

But it is still there for me. Is it just on my end? Kzhangak (talk) 05:58, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Seems OK just now. Have you tried refreshing the page? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Kzhangak: mw:Page Previews uses caching and sometimes shows an old version. I saw it too. A purge fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! It worked! Kzhangak (talk) 04:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Possible incorrect licensing on a commons image

How do I challenge the licensing on an image held on commons? I recently reverted the addition of this image file:Office_women_in_pencil_skirt.png here, as I'm pretty sure it's not the author's own work (and in fact there's a whole boat load of uploads I think are not theirs), but I don't recall the process to challenge. Chaheel Riens (talk) 05:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

You need to bring up Commons issues at Commons. See C:Help:Contents for guidance as to where to raise this. Mjroots (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: Their upload File:Prostitute seducing with her client.jpg is a definte copyright infringment. I found the Shutterstock original and have nominated that for deletion. Checking the image that you spotted, reverse image search points to it being from a porn video. Look at my talk page on Commons, someone left me a note on the quick way to tag stuff that needs the Commons version of Speedy, follow the link in their note.- X201 (talk) 10:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: Just an update. User blocked as sock by Commons admin. All images deleted. Well spotted. - X201 (talk) 15:14, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Carla "KC" Hanson article

A page was created about me several years ago, Carla "KC" Hanson, and I discovered it by accident. I did not create it not authorize it, but did not mind. It was mostly factual, but had one error. That's when I signed up for Wiki editing, and I fixed the error. The page has now been removed, which is disappointing since the fact of my existence has not changed. This begs several questions. 1. Can I see the removed page in any archive? 2. Who has the authority to completely remove pages? 3. May I know who both posted my page and who removed it? KCinPDX (talk) 05:56, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

An article titled Carla Hanson was deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carla Hanson. (1) Yes, you can see it here. (2) An "administrator", if an "AfD" ("Articles for Deletion" process) has determined that it should be removed. (3) It was created by PortlandSaint, edited by various others (including not once but twice by you, in both June and December of 2020), nominated for deletion by Bedivere, and deleted by Liz. -- Hoary (talk) 08:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC) PS Perhaps I should have pinged KCinPDX. Well then, belatedly pinging KCinPDX. -- Hoary (talk) 21:31, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Hoary Your "ping" is a red link to her non-existent userpage. Does that really ping? 🙂 David10244 (talk) 05:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

David10244, I believe so, -- Hoary (talk) 05:23, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@KCinPDX One point: it's not necessary that you "authorize" an article about yourself. I'm sure the current Pope didn't authorize the article that's about him.

As the linked deletion discussion implies, a subject needs to be notable, meeting certain notability guidelines, for an article to survive. Existence is not enough, or else we could have an article on each person who is alive or has ever lived. David10244 (talk) 05:12, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I posted my questions before I found the section on "notability". After I read that, I was even more curious as to why a page on me was posted in the first place. And just now checking out the notes on "Portland Saint," the original author, I am scratching my head as to why someone with opposite political views would create a Wiki Bio on me. I am guessing those errors in his "bio" of me may have been intentional. 2601:1C2:980:3C10:E984:7D10:5191:8B2A (talk) 07:56, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are not limited to creating articles about topics that they "like". Any editor can create any article that they want, but repeatedly creating poor quality articles can lead to sanctions including blocks. Since the article in question was deleted 2-1/2 months ago, I do not see the point in discussing factual inaccuracies. It is gone, after all. Cullen328 (talk) 08:05, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

KCinPDX, administrators are the only group of Wikipedia editors who have the power to delete articles, and I am one of about 450 active administrators. We need to follow policy, though, and this deletion was the result of a community discussion. Cullen328 (talk) 08:10, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

To be clear, I am not arguing for my "bio;" I am fine with the policy, and I am glad I understand it better. Frankly, I have just kept an occasional eye on my bio since the original had the errors I've noted. However, I would caution any of the administrators to not be overly blasé that an error is moot because a post is deleted. "Portland Saint" took the time to create a page on me which had an error that was significant, describing me as affiliated with a well-known ANTI-LGBT group in the 90's when I was and am a LGBT activist. Yes, my page is moot, but, for whatever reason, he created a false bio of me, there is a strong possibility and even likelihood that more of the "Saint's" posts/pages contain factual errors and even disinformation, and I am guessing that there is a Wiki rule that applies to posting inaccurate information. 2601:1C2:980:3C10:DD41:9B8E:B4CF:3492 (talk) 15:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Remember to log in to your account, so your posts are properly attributed to you. There is a rule that articles about living people must be well sourced and accurate, it is called the Biographies of Living Persons policy. You are free to examine any articles that you wish and their sources to determine accuracy, and if you find inaccurate statements or poorly sourced statements, discuss the removal of that content on the article talk page or even remove it yourself. 331dot (talk) 17:09, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

You misunderstand how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia is crowdsourced by a huge number of self-selected volunteers editors with no hierarchy and no assigned tasks. There are no "administrators" in the sense you use the term: our administrators carry out functions like deletion after editors arrive at a consensus. We (including you) are all equally responsible for correcting errors. This chaotic process has resulted in what is arguably the best encyclopedia ever created by a very large margin. We have about 100,000 editors active in any given 30-day period, collectively making more than 10 edits per minute, every minute of the year. You are free to investigate "Portland Saint"'s edit history, and you have exactly the same rights and responsibilities to do so as any other editor. If you find a pattern of bad editing, come back here and we can help you with the next steps. -Arch dude (talk) 17:13, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Second order disambiguation

At present Wu Qing is a disambiguation page between

• Wu Qing (athlete),
• Wu Qing (footballer), and
• Wu Qing (politician).

However...a second politician by that name has now emerged (a male born April 1965 obviously distinct from the female born November 1937 who is the last one listed above). He would seem destined to get an article as he's listed as an Alternate Member of the 20th Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (currently executive vice mayor of Shanghai Municipality so number 2 to the mayor and around number 5 in the combined party/state leadership there...Bloomberg News has speculated that he will succeed Yi Huiman as head of the Securities Regulatory Commission and until 2018 he chaired the Shanghai Stock Exchange). The two politicians are of the same party and nationality so what does one call the article for him?

• male politician?
• Shanghai politician?
• politician born 1965? (the two Lu Haos would seem a precedent for this).

I realize the disambigs here are rather chaotic and coverage of namesakes can be spotty. Every president of the Ramakrishna Order has an article except for the first and longest serving of them all who despite being the "spiritual son" of Ramakrishna himself is shown on the Brahmananda disambig as a redlink with a link to a subhead on Disciples of Ramakrishna and I wonder if this is because there's no consensus on titling an article for him (redlink is "Swami Brahmananda" below two Brahmanand(a) Swamis). William Edgar "Bill" Oddie has an article but the writer/cleric/editor William Oddie (1939-2019) doesn't even get a hatnote to distinguish them. And the Amadeus Quartet that disbanded on its first death in 1987 has an article with no mention made of the four Romanian women who have performed under that name since 2000 to distinguish them.

But...any clarity increase is an improvement? 108.29.145.226 (talk) 06:06, 5 May 2023 (UTC) 108.29.145.226 (talk) 06:06, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

References

For footballers, the standard dab format is (footballer, born xxxx), e.g. Phil Jones (footballer, born 1961) and Phil Jones (footballer, born 1992). I don't see why this can't be extended to politicians. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:29, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Why is my account blocked?

Your username or IP address has been blocked.

The reason given is:

There are multiple blocks against your account and/or IP address.

• Start of block: 06:14, 5 May 2023
• Expiration of longest block: 18:29, 22 April 2028

• Relevant block IDs: #453273, #3118678 (your IP address may also appear in a blocklist)

Your current IP address is 2001:67c:2628:647:4::2b4. Please include all above details in any queries you make.

email:(Redacted) Owosenibayo (talk) 06:16, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Owosenibayo doesn't seem to be blocked at the moment, could you give more detail?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:41, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

2001:67c:2628:647:4::2b4/48 is globally blocked as an open proxy. Owosenibayo Your account doesn't appear to be blocked, but the underlying IP adress is. Please see meta:WikiProject on open proxies/Help:blocked. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:13, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Redirects

Where can I find both recent and old redirects? Is a log present? Dancing Dollar ^{(let's talk)} 08:07, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia contains several million redirects. As far as I am aware they are not logged separately from articles. Can you be more specific? Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:33, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Special:WhatLinksHere example: Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Dancing_Dollar .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 12:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Select "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" on WhatLinksHere to see all current redirects to the page. There aren't any for User:Dancing Dollar. If you want to find former redirects then there is no general way. There are some ways to guess and examine page histories. If this is what you want then do you have a specific page in mind? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:17, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Supergrass & Informant

Supergrass (informant) & Informant should be merged. What are the templates? .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 12:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I see no reason to merge those articles, but you would first need to initiate a discussion on the article talk pages. The templates are Template:Merge and the similar ones listed on that page. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:07, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

i want to use one image from wikipedia article for publication in a scientific journal. How do i get permission from wikipedia for the same ?

i want to use one image from wikipedia article for publication in a scientific journal. How do i get permission from wikipedia for the same ? 2409:40F3:0:D3B0:70AB:4D18:2342:83C6 (talk) 13:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

We really need to know which image, giving you and accurate answer depends on it. - X201 (talk) 13:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Article feels weird

This article feels like a press release and has a lot of inline links to its own website. How do I ask for help to fix it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randolph-Macon_Academy Kurkulc (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I've tagged this one, but in future just add {{Cleanup press release|article}} to the top of the article. If it's a specific section, change article to section and place it in section in question. But the absolute best way is to dive in and clean it up yourself. - X201 (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Citation query

Hello. I had an edit paragraph removed by Aaron Liu as he said it lacked citation. I have some issues with how to cite this particular paragraph on Stewart Nozette PhD. On the talk page for Stewart I posted that I was adding this and that I had documents pertaining to his pardon but as I don't have a website I was aaking how I could make this available to cite what I had added. Also, although his literary agency - Gold Dust, out of Las Vegas - have signed him they have not updated their authors page with him as yet, so I could not cite that. It seems that the only issue with the innocuous paragraph is the lack of citation - given what I've said, is there anything I can do to make the edit allowable? I have not edited on Wiki before, so would appreciate feedback. I spoke to Stewart about this and he says the official pardon number is C277648 and that they are part of the Presidential Records ACT and can be obtained from the National Archives. Can this be cited? Can I submit the documents to Wiki somehow? Aaron was unable to answer this and directed me here. Thanks. SalzenD Salzend (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Pinging @Aaron Liu: as a courtesy. In short biographies are held to a higher standard than anything else on Wikipedia. All major claims on Wikipedia need to have a citation, on biographies it's prerequisite; you need the reference, before you type the prose. Someone may be able to help regarding C277648 and National Archives so wait and see what develops. Wikipedia doesn't have a deadline. - X201 (talk) 14:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I was hoping someone at the help desk would be able to help with the archives Aaron Liu (talk) 18:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Salzend You won't need to submit any documents to Wikipedia, but you'll need to create "references" to published material that verifies the information, once those published references exist (or once you can locate them). And you'll put those references into the document, next to the information that the references support. See WP:REFB. David10244 (talk) 05:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

That's good. Thanks for the information, much appreciated. Salzend (talk) 09:59, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Adding an artist

I want to add an Artist to Wikipedia.

How do I do that? Csmilkov (talk) 14:41, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

It all depends on how notable the person is. It would also help considerably if you did not have a conflict of interest caused by being linked to the person in some way. See your first article for more help.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 14:46, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Csmilkov Wikipedia is not a mere database of artists, this is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, such as the definition of a notable musician or notable artist. If a person meets a notablity definition, there then must be significant coverage in independent reliable sources that can be summarized. If you have sources and the person is notable, you may create a draft via Articles for creation. Be advised that creating a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia. You are advised to first gain experience by editing existing articles first, and using the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 14:48, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Title

Good morning. Could someone change the title to italics (if I'm not mistaken, titles should not be written in italics). JackkBrown (talk) 14:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

The title of which article? - X201 (talk) 14:51, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@X201: the page in question is "Tar (drum)". JackkBrown (talk) 14:52, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

MOS:FOREIGN applies.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:00, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I removed the italic title as tar can be found in the English language.[2] But it's up to consensus.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 15:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

But that's a word for a stringed instrument. Is there any evidence that this tar, a drum, has the same origin? Maproom (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Ianmacm: same here: "Saharat Thai Doem". JackkBrown (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

People have different interpretations of MOS:FOREIGN. Personally I don't think this needs italic titles either, but will wait to see what other users say.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm inclined to disagree. The guidance at Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Common usage in English recommends the use of English-language dictionaries which Britannica is not. If I go to Google and enter define:tar (link) I get a listing of several dictionary entries for 'tar':

• Merriam-Webster
• Cambridge Dictionary
• Oxford Learners Dictionaries
• Dictionary.com
• Vocabulary.com
• Wiktionary

Of these, only wiktionary has a definition that matches the definition of the en.wiki article (see §Etymology 4)

If I go to Google translate and enter the Arabic: طار, it shows the transliteration as tar (link). I can't speak to the accuracy of the translations that it returns but the transliteration does suggest that the use of tar in the en.wiki article is not the common term usually understood by native English speakers as the black sticky stuff. I would therefore markup all instances of tar in the article as {{transliteration|ar|tar}} – perhaps even the title: {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{transliteration|ar|tar}}}}. I don't know if the article should keep the Arabic script طار because unsourced and because the translations at Google translate don't fit – I did look in ar.wiki but there doesn't seem to be a matching drum article there (intitle search results). Wiktionary's Etymology 4 does use طار but that use is unreferenced.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Translating French Wikipedia page into English

I am looking for information on the book Nos Enfants par Anatole France and found a page on FR.wikipedia but I was surprised to see there is no page on the American Wikipedia. Is there a way to get the page translated? 2600:8802:5300:69E9:256A:2B39:9ABA:61C5 (talk) 18:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

See the options described at this link. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:44, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

By the way: there is no such thing as "the American Wikipedia". This is the English (language) Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 21:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm not going to criticise someone who thinks this is the American Wikipedia. Perhaps it was a bit of humour?Naraht (talk) 23:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction. I thought it was the American Wikipedia because I noticed there is a UK Wikipedia. 2600:8802:5300:69E9:AC52:58E0:4EF6:3A60 (talk) 13:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

If you are meaning uk.wikipedia.org, then that is the Ukrainian language Wikipedia. Here in England we tend to use the ... (wait for it) ... English language Wiki! We allow our transatlantic cousins to read it as well :-) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Martin of Sheffield Do you know where those codes came from? The two-letter ISO country code for Ukraine is "ua". If "uk" is the Internet domain suffix for Ukraine, I wonder why that was chosen for the Internet instead of the ISO code. David10244 (talk) 05:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@David10244: I think you are confusing country codes and language codes. See List of ISO 639-1 codes where Ukranian is listed as uk or ukr. The country code for Ukrane according to ISO 3166 is indeed ua or ukr. The ccTLD is .ua. So, uk.wikipedia.org is the Ukranian language Wikipedia whereas ua.wikipedia.org would be the Ukrainian country Wikipedia (which doesn't exist). HTH, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Stripping personal info from reference URLs?

What is the term for the extra stuff in the URL that identifies things like how you looked for it and other information about you and what are some of the tools that help strip it off. I know I've seen edits to do that using some sort of at least semi-automated tool.Naraht (talk) 20:17, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

It's called tracking parameters. Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations#Remove tracking parameters says to remove them but doesn't mention tools. I only know AutoWikiBrowser where you can make your own regular expressions. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

May 6

Person profile

Dear wikipedia editors, I would like to ask help to create an article about Pol Corpas Cuatrecasas TronPuzzle (talk) 02:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@TronPuzzle: The only absolute requirement for a Wikipedia article is that the subject be notable by our definition. See WP:NPERSON. If the subject is not notable, we will delete any attempt you make to create an article, wasting your time and ours. Really. See WP:AMOUNT. If you are fairly sure the person meets our notability requirements, proceed to WP:YFA. -Arch dude (talk) 03:11, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

A casual search reveals that he is the 23-y-o manager, with 1 year in the post, of the Under-17 squad of Lusitano F.C. (Portugal), whose First team was in Portugal's third tier in 2017 (the article badly needs updating). If he were the manager of the Senior team, he would likely be Notable, but not on the strength of his career to date. In 10-year's time, maybe? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.213.18.208 (talk) 07:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@TronPuzzle: See WP:TOOSOON. -Arch dude (talk) 14:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Couldn't Wikipedia find a more respectful image/photograph of our lovely person of colour who married into the British Royal family? Compared to Kate Megan's introductory picture is disgraceful!!

Megan Markle Wikipedia photo. Karaokejackie (talk) 12:18, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Here are other images to choose from at Wiki Commons of Meghan Markle: Meghan Markle. Just make sure they have cross usage. Also, if you can find either public domain or fair use images online (Flickr, etc) you are more than welcome to upload a more suitable image that you deem appropriate for the infobox. But it must comply with certain WP infobox image guidelines H:INFOP. Maineartists (talk) 12:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Karaokejackie: You can suggest a specific image at Talk:Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. Merely asking for a "more respectful image/photograph" is not helpful. Our license requirements reduce the possibilities. File:Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex (2022).JPG was suggested at Talk:Meghan, Duchess of Sussex/Archive 12#Image update but didn't get consensus. I don't know who Kate Megan is. Maybe you mean Kate Middleton. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

OP missed a comma. Compared to Kate, Megan's introductory picture is disgraceful. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Maineartists, when you say Also, if you can find either public domain or fair use images online (Flickr, etc) you are more than welcome to upload a more suitable image that you deem appropriate for the infobox, I suppose that by "fair use images" you mean "conventionally ('all rights reserved') copyright images that can nevertheless be used in a particular article via a claim of 'fair use'". If so, note that Wikipedia:Non-free content says: Non-free content should not be used when a freely licensed file that serves the same purpose can reasonably be expected to be uploaded, as is the case for almost all portraits of living people. -- Hoary (talk) 00:09, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@Maineartists What is "cross usage"? I don't think that is a Wikipedia term. All images at Commons are freely usable in any Wikipedia language project. Just to be clear, there aren't really "imagebox" guidelines, but there are image guidelines. David10244 (talk) 05:36, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I never said it was. When a file uploaded for one particular page but is used on other Wiki pages, that's what I call: cross usage; but then there are uploaded images that can only be used for the sole purpose of that page they are associated with and cannot be used on any other page. I've attempted to do this several times. An uploaded image of a BLP on a page that is not their own, but when I tried to use that image on their BLP page, it was not allowed. The image was only uploaded for use on that one single page. Maineartists (talk) 13:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Not too surprisingly, this has come up before:

• Talk:Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex/Archive_12#Request_to_update_Meghan_Markle's_photograph
• Talk:Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex/Archive_12#Image_update
• Talk:Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex/Archive_12#Photo

One thing you can try if you like, is to contact her representatives and suggest they make a "better" picture available. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Can I copy and modify a table

Can I copy and modify a table of California Counties found on Wikipedia? Thank you. Billkerrey (talk) 13:31, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but you must then license the copyrighted table and the work it is in uder the CC-BY-SA, and you must attribute the table to Wikipedia. See WP:COPYING. -Arch dude (talk) 13:55, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

MOS:UPRIGHT

The policy MOS:UPRIGHT reads: "Except with very good reason, a fixed width in pixels (e.g. 17px) should not be specified. This ignores the user's base width setting, so upright=scaling factor is preferred whenever possible."

I would appreciate some clarification on this, though it seems very straightforward to me. In most cases I confront, a fixed width in pixels has correctly not been specified, and I have employed the upright scaling, exactly as the policy suggests, "whenever possible." I would welcome additional and objective input on this question: In what possible cases should upright be used? "Whenever possible" seems very clear. In what possible cases, if any, should it not be used?

Thanks for any enlightened insight on this question. Keystone18 (talk) 21:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

@Keystone18 I am not sure exactly what you are asking, but you know that 17 pixels on one device might be vastly different in size from 17 pixels on another device, right? David10244 (talk) 05:41, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

May 7

Turkish cuisine

The 'Turkish cuisine' page needs a complete overhaul, it's full of all kinds of errors. 151.68.11.81 (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry to learn of this, but not at all surprised. Many pages need complete overhauls. If you have reliable sources (which of course may be in Turkish) for Turkish cuisine, then fix the mistakes, or as many as your reliable sources and time and energy permit. Be sure to say which reliable source you're using for which correction. If this seems too complex, then instead make specific recommendations in Talk:Turkish cuisine. -- Hoary (talk) 00:39, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

There are 6.6 million English language Wikipedia articles and 8 billion humans on the planet. I think that it is safe to say that you are the human being on the planet most interested in improving this particular article at this time. So, go right ahead and get to work. Be sure to explain, with references to reliable sources, how Turkish cuisine differs from Levantine cuisine and Greek cuisine, and more broadly Mediterranean cuisine in general. Cullen328 (talk) 07:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Hoary and Cullen328: I make the observation again: the page on Turkish cuisine is badly placed, not so much because of the text, but because of the use of italics; italics are used badly (there are so many Turkish-only foods for which italics should be used; the problem is that I don't know which ones need italics and which do not). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.82.171.114 (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

How to bookmark pages within Wiki account (logged in user)?

Is there a way to bookmark pages within my wiki account and not just on my web browser? Similar to the way that logged in wiki users have a Watchlist, except that is maintains lists of changes and I just want a simple Bookmark feature. Skræling (talk) 02:34, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@Skræling: As far as I know the only platform that has something similar to what you're asking for is the mobile app's reading lists. You can also use your watchlist to keep track of pages you manually watch. The entire watchlist can be viewed by clicking on the "View and edit watchlist" link at the top of the watchlist. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:56, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@Skræling: you can also create a subpage of your user page (e.g., User:Skræling/bookmarks) and put links on it. -Arch dude (talk) 04:39, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Cadillac CT5

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Information0007 (talk) 06:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC) hello, how do I add a citation

Information0007, are you asking about https://patentcenter.uspto.gov/applications/29621189. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)? If so, you need to add title= 29/621,189 | DES000041-US-DP_D[9]: Vehicle Front Fascia. -- Hoary (talk) 12:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Redlinks

I've noticed recently that some wikilinks, such as this one Zucchini (disambiguation), now appear to me in red, even though they're to pages that exist. I've tried changing browser, I've tried changing changing skin, they're still red. Is this a known bug? Maproom (talk) 07:10, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Actually, it's orange. Somewhere in your preferences (I've lost it ATM) there is a check box to show disambiguation links in orange. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets has "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". Zucchini (disambiguation) is orange for me. Zucchini (no such page) is red. They look quite different to me. The gadget code is:

a.mw-disambig { color: #f17600; }

You can pick another color by disabling the gadget and adding similar code to your CSS. See Web colors for options. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Candi_CdeBaca article formatting error?

Hi, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candi_CdeBaca the infobox appears as text in the article, at least in my browser. Does not look right. T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 11:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 11:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Turkish cuisine

I make the observation again: the page on Turkish cuisine is badly placed, not so much because of the text, but because of the use of italics; italics are used badly (there are so many Turkish-only foods for which italics should be used; the problem is that I don't know which ones need italics and which do not). 151.82.171.114 (talk) 13:22, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

"Plot" of this article

Could someone look at how 2_Hearts_(film) complies with WP:PLOT, if it does at all. Thank you. doktorb _words^deeds 13:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

ChatGPT

It's probably been asked already, but is it acceptable to add ChatGPT output to Wikipedia? Let's assume that the content is all stuff whose truth I would verify and that I would provide reliable sources for. Nevertheless, starting my edits with ChatGPT output could significantly accelerate the writing of material which in theory I could write myself, but would otherwise take a lot longer. Are there copyright issues with such output, or any other issues I can't think of? Ar2332 (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

See WP:LLM for the developing policy on usage of large language models such as ChatGPT. Art the cirrent stage of LLM's, I do not believe using ChatGPT will be significantly faster than writing encyclopedic material the old fashioned way, because a large amount of the time gained by not having to write the material yourself will be spent fixing up the AI output. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 15:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Naming a article

What should I do if I want to make an article but the naming is difficult. I am wanting to make a article about an event that led to 6 students being hospitalized. At this time it is known a unknown smell caused the event. How should I name the article? Another event would be a fight between a Russian and Ukraine deploy at. How should I name articles if I don’t know how to name them? LuxembourgLover (talk) 17:07, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Frankly, I doubt that either event would meet Wikipedia:Notability requirements for an article. As for naming articles that do, see Wikipedia:Article titles. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I think the school would meet it. It lead to 6 critically injured students being taken to the hospital and the school closes for two days. LuxembourgLover (talk) 18:19, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Remember, this is a global project. "There was a funny smell down at the high school; doctors looked at six kids and the school closed" is barely notable enough for local coverage, if your kid doesn't go there. There's no hint of an indication that this event is globally notable, unless the kids exposed start turning into lizard people or switching genders or develop superpowers or something. --Orange Mike | [[User talk:Orangemi}}ke|Talk]] 18:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

LuxembourgLover, the source you linked to does not say that the students were critically injured. Instead, it says that they are in stable condition. Accurately summarizing sources is an essential skill for Wikipedia editors. Cullen328 (talk) 18:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

I have seen many sources for the event. I just grabbed that one for the question. LuxembourgLover (talk) 19:27, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Netflix

can you search old movies? Pedia115 (talk) 17:48, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but I don't see how that is relevant here. Do you have a question about how to use or edit Wikipedia? Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

New Article Submitted

a journalists biography submitted Tarin7767 (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Why doesn't my page accept even after I submit the page with correct reference again and again? Tarin7767 (talk) 18:18, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

You need so provide independent sources demonstrating in-depth coverage, not citations to the individual's own website. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Now see if everything is ok.?  If correct please make public and if wrong please let me know Tarin7767 (talk) 18:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

There is literally NOTHING there that is not cited back to his own website. We don't care what he says about himself. We want to know what the world says about him. If there is no substantive coverage about him in the national and worldwide press, then we are forced to conclude that he's just another of the millions of journalists globally who are not notable enough to merit an article in a worldwide project. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

It is extremely unlikely although not impossible that a 20 year old journalist would be notable. Cullen328 (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

This person is not notable for Wikipedia's purpose. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Partially expanded navbox?

Is there a way to force a navbox to display partially expanded?

My userpage includes {{Userspace linking templates}} navbox for quick reference. My preference is to partially expand the navbox to show the four subcategories headers, but not expand the subcategories.

Is there some trick to do this with WikiText? — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 19:15, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@BillHPike: I have added state parameters without changing the defaults.[3] You can now call with |state=expanded |state1=collapsed. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:48, 7 May 2023 (UTC)