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October 28[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 28, 2022.

List of games with support for high-fidelity image upscaling[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 5#List of games with support for high-fidelity image upscaling

Kerotan MGS3[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Kerotan MGS3

EZ Gun[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. czar 04:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Appears to be WP:GAMECRUFT #7 (non-notable weapon). Dominicmgm (talk) 21:53, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete—Too granular a mention for the target article. Would be a suitable redirect to a "list of weapons used in Metal Gear franchise titles"-type of article. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:54, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Smg4[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of unofficial Mario media#Videos. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion. How does Smg4 relate to Meta Runner? SMG4 was already nominated for deletion, and having a redirect to Meta Runner makes no sense. SMBMovieFan (talk) 22:28, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion. SMG4 itself is a show entirely seperate from Meta Runner. That space should be reserved for its own eventual page and not treated as a redirect to an unrelated subject. - K-popguardian (talk) 23:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Appearance of extrasolar planets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Exoplanet#General features. Legoktm (talk) 03:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Too narrow for the target article, which is only about gas giants. For example, helium planets are described in their article as appearing white or gray. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Just Dance 2023[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. It's snowing! (non-admin closure) Clyde!Franklin! 15:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would like this redirect deleted because there is already an article named Just Dance 2023 Edition in the mainspace. 104.247.238.154 (talk) 21:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • While WP:RDRAFT does not directly imply here since this was a BLAR and not a pagemove, I think the spirit of it means we should keep. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 22:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as {{R with history}}. Looks like the article in mainspace was made while this was still in draftsapce. The primary author of the draft may wish to retrieve their work for possible incorporation of some of the content into the mainspace article. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:38, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as {{R with history}} per Mdewman6. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 08:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:SRE (ie drafts for articles that exist should be redirected to the article they are for). A7V2 (talk) 03:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per above Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 18:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Brüün, Jonathan[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Brüün, Jonathan

List of yaoi games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of yaoi anime and manga#Other media. signed, Rosguill talk 23:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirect: No such list exists in the target article. IceWelder [✉] 15:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Category:Yaoi video games * Pppery * it has begun... 18:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose retarget to category per WP:CLN: Redirects of list articles to categories are highly discouraged: list articles should take the place of the redirect. There was an AfD that resulted in merge. It was merged in a prose format, which still exists at Yaoi#Video games. I think that counts as a list because the paragraph does list a few significant games. Otherwise, a traditional table-style list of some yaoi video games exists at List of yaoi anime and manga#Other media. A final option I'm open to is restoring the list. It was purged of non-notable entries during the AfD, which made it a bit short (11 entries). If we can get more sourcing for the non-notable entries, it could actually be a nice list. -- Tavix (talk) 14:15, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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NoCopyrightSound[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#NoCopyrightSound

Redmi Note 12[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. Product now mentioned at article. Multiple reliable sources found. (non-admin closure) AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TOOSOON, no discussion of next-gen product AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:56, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: This product was announced 2 days ago. —Hajoon0102 💬 01:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - there is nothing about this product at the target. The redirect can be created if/when content is added to the target, and should not have been created before content was added. A7V2 (talk) 02:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Content was added to the target today. I have also notified of this discussion at the target talk page. Jay 💬 18:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Vortian prisoner 777[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be a minor character in the comics. However it is not mentioned in the article and no reliable sources mention it. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 16:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Mon Mothm,a[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 16:15, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's not way this is a common typographical error. What possible benefit could this serve as a redirect? It's a dangerous, time-consuming precedent if you ask me. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Minor Sith and dark Jedi in Star Wars[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 16:03, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not a feasible redirect, and that is not how this page is divided anyway. Equating Minor Sith and Dark Jedi under one umbrella search term is confusing and unhelpful. Delete. TNstingray (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Swollen eyeball[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Chemosis without prejudice to further drafting of a dab at Swollen eye signed, Rosguill talk 23:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This could be a generic term. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Chemosis, although I could see an argument to disambiguate with Periorbital puffiness (potentially at Swollen eye with this as a redirect to that). BlackholeWA (talk) 15:48, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, I don't exactly know where this should go to, but it definitely should not be redirecting to a TV show. "Swollen eyeball" can be used to describe the swelling around the eye (not the eye itself since it can't really swell, tho most people just refer to their eye swelling and not the area around it). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment History shows this originally was an article that got BLARed to a "List of characters from Invader ZIM" article, which itself was BLARed into the main Invader ZIM article. MightyArms (talk) 20:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Swollen eye per Blackhole assuming we can write up a dab. Jay 💬 15:57, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Chemosis per Blackhole, and add a hatnote pointing to Periorbital puffiness. A DAB can also be created at Swollen eye, but I'm not sure it's necessary. CycloneYoris talk! 01:39, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Seargeant Slab Rankle[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A character that only appears in one episode of the TV series. Not mentioned in the article and reliable sources don’t mention this character. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Moosey fate[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This “episode” is not mentioned in the article. Nor is it mentioned in reliable sources. Before being a redirect, the article A Room with a Moose used to be under this name. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia’s Wikipedia article[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 5#Wikipedia’s Wikipedia article

Temp (hairstyle)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Temp (hairstyle)

Southern Cross 9[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Southern Cross 9

Nigger Hills[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Legoktm (talk) 03:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Term not mentioned in the article; seems a bit odd to have a redirect like this without the term being mentioned in the article. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, as per above there is no reference to this nickname ever being used in reference to Ernie Hills. Dan arndt (talk) 05:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this was the original title, which was changed after an AfD, and a source in the initial revision (now a dead URL, seemingly after the website was bought by ESPN) seems to give it as a nickname. jp×g 06:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Given it was the original title, and the nickname is used in some coverage, I'd say keep. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:50, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - despite being incredibly offensive, the name does appear to have been used - two of the current article sources have -that word- in their titles (I will not be googling to double check). Therefore, it seems to be a possible search term. ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 18:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Regarding sources used in the current article, see my reply to A7V2 below. – Scyrme (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:RDELETE, point 3. Calling this "a bit odd" is an understatement. Just because some people have used this "nickname" doesn't mean Wikipedia should reproduce it. – Scyrme (talk) 22:43, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as this seems to be a name used to refer to him. WP:RNEUTRAL applies. Also was the title of this article for a year. A7V2 (talk) 23:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    "Non-neutral" and "offensive" are two different matters. Regardless, the AfD moved the article because reliable sources refer to him as "Ernie". In-fact, WP:RNEUTRAL (last paragraph) explicitly gives this as a valid reason for deleting the old title, particularly in cases of point 3 which I cited earlier. The sources cited in the article that refer to him by the previous title are a permanent dead link with no working archive (unverifiable, reliability can't be assessed) and what is basically a blog (not reliable). That casual racists with no self-awareness have used this term in informal contexts does not mean this redirect should be kept. – Scyrme (talk) 14:20, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This just reads as WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. People called him this. We shouldn't go out of our way to make it harder for someone to find this article. I don't know where the name comes from but it is used in at least one reliable source, the "permanent dead link" from the article [1], so presumably the fact that the players association website also uses it [2] means this name was used. What benefit comes from deletion? No-one will see this except people clicking "what links here" or people searching this. A7V2 (talk) 23:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't remotely see how WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS applies. Everything I've argued complies with the guidance at Wikipedia:Redirect, including WP:RDELETE and WP:RNEUTRAL. Nothing I've said is leading ahead of the sources; the reliable sources that call him "Ernie" (and in-fact there are old newspaper columns dating to the 1940s that do so, so this isn't remotely new). I wasn't able to find that archive you linked to because the domain had changed; I've now updated the link in the article. This means the one reliable source is dead but is accessible through an archive, so it can be verified. Note that WP:RNEUTRAL requires multiple reliable sources, not just one. However, the updated ESPN page also calls him "Ernie", so even the one reliable source we have has moved on. – Scyrme (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    ""Non-neutral" and "offensive" are two different matters", "That casual racists with no self-awareness have used this term in informal contexts does not mean this redirect should be kept." - this is why I mentioned rightgreatwrongs. I'm not going to go into the reasons for this as they may be incorrect (and perhaps not WP:AGF on my part) but I think are obvious enough (in terms of my interpretation of what you were saying). In any case I apologise for that. That all said, I don't believe that a reliable source using this name in the past would be for no reason. Given there is no actual benefit from deletion advanced thus far (how can something no-one will see be offensive?) we should keep this as a valid search term. I don't agree that WP:RFD#D3 applies either since my reading of it is that the redirect would need to be offensive to the person, and there is no evidence of that here. A7V2 (talk) 23:14, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not convinced that it only has to be a offensive to the subject of the article to qualify, that's just the example given, but I can understand why you might read it that way since the guidance doesn't explicitly say anything either way. Unless there's guidance elsewhere which affirms one interpretation over the other, I think we're stuck here. Best to get more opinions. – Scyrme (talk) 23:40, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for lack of coverage in reliable sources. I have no problem in principle with redirects containing profanity or slurs. However: [3] does not appear to be a reliable source, and a since-revised database entry is not enough coverage to justify a potentially inflammatory redirect. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 05:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete there appears to be no reliable source for the nickname let alone one that would justify it as a redirect.Skeene88 (talk) 15:18, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Game hacks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget.

These should probably target the same article. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:31, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note - I had the same thought, but there is no Game hacking page... I guess we can create one based upon the outcome of this discussion. ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 13:29, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The million dollar shot[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 3#The million dollar shot

Israei beer[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Israei beer

Salam[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to As-salamu alaykum. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 11:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Salaam was retargeted to As-salamu alaykum as a result of Talk:Salaam (disambiguation) § Requested move 16 October 2022. I think the same argument I presented at that RM applies to this redirect as well. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 04:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Alabama Supercomputer Network[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 23:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the redirect target and I can't think of a way it could be without starting a slippery slope of spam, per the edit that removed it from the target (I'd ping the user who made the edit, but they're inactive). The only links/mentions are on IP talk pages and discussion about them. Graham87 04:12, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Alabama Supercomputer Network seems to be also known as the Alabama Supercomputer Authority, which is a state agency. It is plausible sources could be found to establish notability as an independent topic. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I don't think the 200+ IP talk pages have discussion about Alabama Supercomputer Network, but were added as part of a notification via {{Shared IP edu}}. I do not know if the mention there will become redlinks after deletion, or become bolded black text. Courtesy ping Gilliam to see if he knows more. Jay 💬 06:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:REDYES. Not sure what the article would be titled exactly, but the subject appears notable, I quickly found [4] and [5] as sources. Legoktm (talk) 03:23, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Disambiguated Three Worlds Cycle plot points[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Disambiguated Three Worlds Cycle plot points

Scrutators[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Scrutators

Mirror of Aachan[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 4#Mirror of Aachan

Fiz Gorgo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another split-off from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19#Three Worlds cycle plot points that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. If the pre-BLAR content were to be merged, the probable target would be the island where the fort is located, Meldorin Island, on which there is no article. Jay 💬 03:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Elienor[edit]

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Selial[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another split-off from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 19#Three Worlds cycle plot points that is not mentioned at the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. If the pre-BLAR content were to be merged, the probable target would be The View from the Mirror, which also is a BLAR whose last best revision does not mention Selial as a main character. Jay 💬 03:06, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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