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December 12[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 12, 2022.

Tmtp[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 20#Tmtp

Nazis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:22, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recommending a retarget from Nazism to Nazi Party.

As of writing, there are 2 other redirects that are of interest and relating to this, which is Nazi (currently targeting to the Nazism ideology), and The Nazis (which targets to the Nazi Party). I agree that for the former two, these are the best options save for maybe making Nazi a disambiguation, but that's beyond the point of this RFC.

Presently, this redirect also targets to the Nazism ideology, however, it's difficult for Nazis plural to be able to refer to the Nazism ideology in common conversation. If I say "Nazis" in a discussion, I'm most frequently referring to either the regime/party/Third Reich, or neo-Nazi movements/participants. Based on this, I don't believe that "Nazis" plural as a redirect should target to the ideology but rather the party, as modern proponents of the ideology and party are designated as "neo-Nazis" rather than "Nazis" on WP. I believe a reader looking for information on Neo-Nazism would type neo-Nazism or related terms in the search box. A person typing "Nazis" would expect to find the regime, not the ideology. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:20, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as is - I'm afraid I have to disagree. There was not one Nazi Party (there was one in Austria as well) and insofar as "Nazi" is also colloquially used to refer to neo-Nazis and others who share the Nazi's ideas, the ideology article gives a better sense of what they stand for then the Party article does, since it's primarily historical. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:34, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree with Beyond my Ken here. The average reader might not necessarily type in "neo-Nazis" for contemporary adherents of the ideology. (Indeed, the term "neo-Nazis" doesn't seem to be in as common parlance as one might think based on my experience). Since the current target is broader in scope, it seems like a better target to me. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The singular Nazi redirects to Nazism and I don't think there is a good argument to be made for targeting each to different articles. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:42, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. Came due to the RfC request, but followed the breadcrumbs here. GenQuest "scribble" 15:01, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Diktyology[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, and not mentioned anywhere else on Wikipedia, leaving it unclear with this redirect is meant to refer to. Steel1943 (talk) 22:47, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for reasons stated. Topic may be notable, and could be recreated as a stand-alone article if anyone cares one day. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:16, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Cascade (social network theory)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:39, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in either target article, and not mentioned in Social network, the target of redirect Social network theory, either. This leaves these redirects unclear in what they are meant to refer to. Steel1943 (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for reasons stated. Topic may be notable, and could be recreated as a stand-alone article if anyone cares one day. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:16, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Networks in Political Science[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Policy network analysis. ✗plicit 23:40, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is unclear what this redirect is meant to refer. The target article does state that "social network analysis" is used in political science, but political science is just of many subjects mentioned in that sentence, and "Social network analysis" does not mean "Network" (the first word of the nominated redirect). Steel1943 (talk) 22:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Policy network analysis, which is an obvious target candidate from a google search. (Role of networks in electoral behavior may also be a good fit, though it seems like an obscure-er subtopic.) Duckmather (talk) 00:17, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Social network creation[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Social network creation

Social network concept[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Social network concept

Smugging[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Smugging

Unauthorized access in online social networks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:41, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article at all. The redirect is a {{R from merge}} from 2013, but if any material was merged into the target article, it seems it is presently nowhere to be found. Steel1943 (talk) 21:37, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for reasons stated. Topic may be notable, and could be recreated as a stand-alone article if anyone cares one day. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Electronic sociability[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Electronic sociability

Social networking[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Social network and keep those that already target there. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:45, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since these redirects' current target, Social networking service, is about a web site or platform where a social network can be used, whereas the article Social network is about the concept and the act and structure of social networking ... I'm thinking all of these should target Social network (if they don't already). Steel1943 (talk) 20:59, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Such terms are often imprecise. It may be better to retarget them to Social network (disambiguation). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:10, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect all to Social network. None of the titles are about the platform that social media can be used but just the general topic of social media. There is a hatnote at the top so no need to send readers to DAB page when the social netwprk page is the primary topic. RoostTC(ping me!) 06:45, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Social Surfing[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 20#Social Surfing

Social networking 2.0[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Social networking 2.0

Social networking in Canada[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Canadian online media#Social media. ✗plicit 23:42, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no mention of "Canada" anywhere in the target article or Social network, most likely leaving readers with no place to find the information stated in the title of this redirect. However, this redirect is a {{R with history}} that was created as an article in 2008 and was subject to a WP:BLAR and converted to a redirect towards the current article (with a different name then) in 2010. Steel1943 (talk) 19:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Too specific, delete. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Circle of Trust (social network)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 19:28, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 19:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for reasons stated. Topic may be notable, and could be recreated as a stand-alone article if anyone cares one day. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Blended networking[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 23#Blended networking

List of suggested topics for computer networking research[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:19, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No such list at target article. In addition, this redirect seemed to previously have content, and after a series of moves, the content ended up at Draft:Outline of computer networking, which was subject to a WP:G13 deletion in 2019. Steel1943 (talk) 18:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you've found another route by which material is deleted. Move it to draft space, and then it disappears a few weeks later as a matter of routine. I wonder how much WP content has been deleted through this method. As for the redirect, there appears to be no need for it. Delete.    — The Transhumanist   07:18, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Workgroups vs domains[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 23#Workgroups vs domains

Solomon system[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Solomon system

Ostbahnhof[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Ostbahnhof

Math Olympiad[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of mathematics competitions and keep those that already target this page. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These should all link to the same page, especially Mathematical olympiad and Mathematical Olympiad which differ only by capitalisation. List of mathematics competitions appears to be a more plausible target, but I'm not entirely decided on which one should be chosen. Randi Moth (talk) 15:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget all to List of mathematics competitions. Targeting some of them to International Mathematical Olympiad doesn't make sense when there are so many other mathematical olympiads. (To be fair, not every mathematics competition is called an "olympiad", but this distinguishing factor isn't strong enough to warrant making another page entirely in my opinion.) Duckmather (talk) 19:49, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The Royalty Tour (Mary J. Blige and Nas Tour)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 26#The Royalty Tour (Mary J. Blige and Nas Tour)

Draft:Minecraft[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Draft:Minecraft

United States/Government[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Federal government of the United States. ✗plicit 06:11, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a redirect with history from the days of CamelCase, but ideally it should target Federal government of the United States instead as that is more appropriate, not sure if retargeting will cause any harm, but the history would be preserved anyway. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 10:54, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:11, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support The retarget has more information specific to the governmental systems of USA. RoostTC(ping me!) 13:34, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per nom. A7V2 (talk) 00:18, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Stink eye[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Cut-eye. Jay 💬 02:35, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SSRT, no reason why this term would need a Wiktionary redirect Fram (talk) 10:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:10, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Adriano (footballer, born 1982)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Adriano (footballer, born 1982)

Selective-sliding[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 20#Selective-sliding

Downshift[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. While there was some debate over the target location, it seemed like consensus was towards locating at Downshift. With no comments on location since the last relist explicitly about location and the lean towards Downshift, the result is DAB at Downshift with Downshifting retargeting to Downshift. (non-admin closure) TartarTorte 01:14, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what should be done with these. While at face value the current target seems ok, I have a couple of issues with it, namely that the concept of downshifting specifically isn't discussed at all, as well as the fact that other types of transmission (eg Automatic) also include downshifting. Note that both of these were originally created as articles, with Downshift moved to Downshift (Transformers), an article [1] which has been twice BLARed (and now is probably itself unsuitable but I'm getting sidetracked) and Downshifting moved to Downshifting (lifestyle) per a requested move discussion Talk:Downshifting (lifestyle)#Requested move 31 October 2017 where consensus found that shifting gears is the primary topic. A7V2 (talk) 08:01, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: At which title should the DAB be? I have removed the HTML comment tags from AjaxSmack's draft at Downshift.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:17, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Convert to dab page per AjaxSmack - I think that would provide the most clarity for a reader who finds the page. (I removed the mention of "gear stick" from the proposed disambiguation, as this also applies to automatic transmissions.) --Sable232 (talk) 21:17, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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H-pattern[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 27#H-pattern

Four on the floor (transmission)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Four on the floor (transmission)

Template:R to publisher[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 December 19#Template:R to publisher

SouthAfrica[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 06:17, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely misspelling due to lack of space. Created in 2021, so not old enough to be a {{R from CamelCase}} that should be kept. Steel1943 (talk) 20:14, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep - I don't think it's particularly unlikely, if anything I'd say quite plausible. I don't see a good reason not to take someone to exactly what they were looking for. A7V2 (talk) 23:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep seeing that examples like UnitedStates exist, I will vote for this to be kept as well. RoostTC(please ping me when replying) 09:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Ambivalent on keeping vs. deleting for this, but as a note UnitedStates was the original title of United States when the page was created in 2001 due to the naming rules on wikipedia at the time. This is not the case with SouthAfrica. TartarTorte 13:03, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Unlikely misspelling and an unnecessary redirect overall. I would also like to remind some participants here about WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS (*cough* Roost and 49. IP), and how it's usually not considered a valid argument to make in deletion discussions. CycloneYoris talk! 11:14, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    My previous argument appears to be invalid. However, I will still vote keep because it got around 8 views in around 20 days. This excludes views before the RfD nomination. It is a likely typo. RoostTC(ping me!) 13:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Plausible typo, sometimes used intentionally as a hashtag. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 02:17, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:42, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Plausible misspelling and other examples such as the mention UnitedStates exist Qwv (talk) 11:15, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Darling (2014 film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. This is not the correct venue for this discussion as noted below. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:29, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The film released in 2015 and the history of Darling (2014 film) should be merged to Darling (2015 Indian film). There is Draft:Darling (2014 Kannada film), which should ideally be moved to Darling (2014 film) as this is the only film with the name Darling that released in 2014. DareshMohan (talk) 06:12, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Procedural close. Go to WP:RMTR or WP:RM#CM per instructions at the top of WP:RFD. If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. Also, this was a page move, so there is no history to merge. Jay 💬 09:53, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Mud Hen Lakes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Mud Hen Lake. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 11:37, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Other than appearing in a list and indicating in which township these lakes exist, there is no information at the target or anywhere else on enwiki about these lakes. Other lakes listed at the target without links do not redirect there. Creates potential confusion with Mud Hen Lake, Minnesota, a township in a different county of Minnesota. Suggest deletion. Mdewman6 (talk) 05:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest a retarget to Mud Hen Lake, Minnesota and adding a hatnote that leads to the lake in Dakota County. Mud Hen Lake, Minnesota is the primary topic. RoostTC(ping me!) 13:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Roost's suggestion. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:07, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly oppose retargeting to Mud Hen Lake, Minnesota as we don't have Mud Hen Lake (due to ambiguity with a lake in Wisconsin, and perhaps elsewhere), but even if we did, it would make no sense to target the plural of a township name to the name of the township. That would be like having New York Cities be a redirect to New York City, or Grand Lakes (a town in Texas) being a redirect to Grand Lake, Colorado. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:35, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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