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November 9[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 9, 2021.

Adlib[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Ad lib (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:32, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect should be retargeted to the disambiguation page, Ad lib (disambiguation). It is at least as likely that the reader is looking for the musical or theatrical phrase as for a company. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ricardo May[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of a Ricardo May at the target article or anywhere else that I could find. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Myanmar People Defensive War[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 17#Myanmar People Defensive War

Daddy Brown[edit]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 13:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, an internet search does not suggest that this phrase is primarily associated with the current target, or anything else in particular (although I would guess that this is probably a nickname used by some of the BU or MIT student body). Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, clpo13(talk) 20:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Troy NY[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. clpo13(talk) 20:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Troy, NY. The typical convention is to use a comma to divide the city name and the state code. I somehow missed that Troy, NY is already a valid redirect. Bad research on my part; I apologize. I withdraw nomination and argue for keep per WP:CHEAP and its >1/day visitation numbers. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 20:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Nick Jr. (around the world)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 13:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely disambiguation, unclear what utility this redirect serves regardless of target. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Bobby Laurie[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Robert Laurie (journalist). ✗plicit 14:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Robert Laurie (journalist), subject has his own page and doesn't need to point to the show. Rusalkii (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Rachmanianoff[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 17#Rachmanianoff

Saints[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 17#Saints

Aurat (Malaysian and Indonesian nomenclature for Intimate parts in Islam)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Nothing links to this redirect and it is highly unlikely someone will stumble upon it just by typing. It is already covered by more intuitive redirects Aurat (Malay language) and Aurat (Indonesian language).VR talk 09:49, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No issues from me. Thanks Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 12:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Derner (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist (t) 02:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To be deleted. Derner is changed to the list-article Estopedist1 (talk) 09:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Valid and useful search term. Most readers may not know the difference between a DAB page and a list article, so this redirect is still helpful to them, and it's still serving its purpose. CycloneYoris talk! 10:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore disambiguation footer, and add "Gordon F. Derner School of Psychology" to the list, since it exists at Adelphi University -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 11:53, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per CycloneYoris. A surname page is a type of disambiguation page so this is a perfectly valid WP:INTDABLINK. Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment. A surname page is most certainly not a type of disambiguation page. A surname page is a type of SIA, which is a type of list article; see WP:NOTDAB. A DAB page is a non-article page; see MOS:DAB. Chalk and cheese. Narky Blert (talk) 22:43, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Set indexes are, for practical purposes, also types of disambiguation pages. The only reason they are separate is to work around the very (often overly) rigid interpretation of style guidelines for disambiguation pages. Thryduulf (talk) 01:46, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. WP:G14, "Unnecessary disambiguation pages", contradicts itself.
"[G14 applies to a] redirect that ends in "(disambiguation)" but does not redirect to a disambiguation page or a page that performs a disambiguation-like function" (i.e. G14 does not apply to a page which performs a disambiguation-like function).
"G14 also applies to pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists)" (i.e. G14 does). Narky Blert (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The original formulation of that part of G14 was "G14 also applies to orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists)", added by Shhhnotsoloud following the discussion now at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 74#Deletion of redundant (disambiguation) redirects. They clearly show that the intent is clearly that redirects ending in "(disambiguation)" which target pages such as lists and set indexes that perform a disambiguation-like function cannot be speedily deleted under criterion G14. Previous RfD discussions have repeatedly found either consensus that such should be kept or ended in no consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 01:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I know. That's why I didn't !vote. It doesn't change the fact that the guideline contradicts itself. Narky Blert (talk) 16:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not brilliantly worded, but I don't think it actually contradicts itself. However this is a discussion that belongs at WT:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 18:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Sebastian shaw.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 11:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused file redirect that resulted from a file rename of a duplicatively named file. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:45, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment FILEREDIRECt was copied from COMMONS without considering the differences between a Wikipedia and Commons. (ie. we do not distribute files across different projects, needing to keep redirects around, so that files will still work) The Filespace instructions copied from COMMONS without considering that a Wikipedia does not distribute files across multiple projects makes fixing files problematic. That fils can be simply and easily renamed with the recent versions of MediaWiki, and have no difference in workload with renaming an article, should be put into consideration with the filespace rules when dealing with a single project's files (ie. not on COMMONS) -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 22:34, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • See this discussion. The file had been at this title for over 10 years, thus the existence of old links is highly likely. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:02, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT. Unlike what the IP says, Wikipedia is in the business of distributing images - even if not between multiple Wikimedia projects, images on Wikipedia are linked from many places on the internet. Thryduulf (talk) 14:32, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hayweauhdfkjakdahakhaya[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect was tagged for speedy deletion as nonsense, which it seems to be, but since it has existed since 2008, I thought it deserved to go to RFD in case any editor could understand why it was created and has not been deleted in 13 years. I couldn't find any reference to "Hayweauhdfkjakdahakhaya" on the target article or anywhere on Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 04:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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