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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 21, 2018.

Currydon[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 30#Currydon

Subtopic redirects to Funeral[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Funeral#Humanist and otherwise not religiously affiliated. Much obliged to CWM ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

These subtopics not mentioned in the target article. Thus, readers trying to find these specific subtopic as referenced by these redirects will not find what they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 20:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • This seems like one of those twilight areas between WP:REDLINK and "what we have is better than nothing". If I were looking for this topic, I'd find Funeral#Humanist interesting, but it's not a great deal to go on, and it's entirely UK-centric. Is this better than a situation that makes our absence of coverage explicit? I really don't know. --BDD (talk) 20:44, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom as with Atheist wedding. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further thought: "Non-confessional funeral" suggests to me a nondenominational Christian funeral. Is that just personal bias? Wiktionary isn't giving me a clear answer, but use of an unusual term like "non-confessional" rather than "non-religious" suggests something different to me. --BDD (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be redirects for Non-confessional marriage and Non-confessional confirmation which should perhaps be reviewed as well. But non-confessional doesn't mean non-denominational. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Out of sanctuary[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 13:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Thus, the connection is unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 20:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom, confuses with news articles talking about "opt out of sanctuary city" AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:06, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I agree. This seems clumsy in an unhelpful fashion. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Horizon (video game)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Horizon (disambiguation)#Games. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, a PC game called Horizon exists, which has no relation to the game Horizon Zero Dawn. 2001:14BA:8864:B700:8C81:139D:7E69:643E (talk) 19:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: no need to delete a redirect just because there is another possible target. No need to delete a redirect even when there is a better target. If there is a better target article on Wikipedia (I don't think there is right now), consider retargeting the redirect and tidying up existing links to the redirect. If there are multiple possible targets with no obvious main article, consider a disambiguation page. If there is likely to be confusion about which article a reader wants, consider hatnotes and a disambiguation page in addition to a redirect. Any of these changes can be made by any editor, but be prepared for discussions if there is any disagreement. Lithopsian (talk) 19:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the video game cover, Horizon is in large font, while Zero Dawn appears in smaller letters like a subtitle, so the colon might be a plausible typo, and Horizon can still be thought of as the main video game title. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:55, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Festive-themed[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. 11.5 years and *poof* gone ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The use of the word "themed" and what it is supposed to represent is not clear in the target article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fiesta Day[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Search results do seem helpful, there are several articles that mention a local "Fiesta Day" of some sort. Perhaps there could be a disambiguation if someone wishes to curate them. -- Tavix (talk) 13:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is confused. In its current form, it cooks be argued that it has WP:FORRED issues due to the use of the word "fiesta", in addition to representing topics other than holidays. I'd imagine there may be a retargeting option for this redirect, but if not, it's probably best to delete it so that readers can use Wikipedia's search function to locate the page which they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as vague. It has been used in a number of local events, and doesn't have any usage from any incoming links on articles. We don't have redirects for "classic car show" or "art and wine festival". AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:36, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Paul konerko polish[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Paul Konerko is American! -- Tavix (talk) 13:43, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect. Paul Konerko has his own article and it is a stretch to retain 'Paul konerko polish' as it already includes the target article. Jip Orlando (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleteme[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:49, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to have been created for deletion to make way for a move of some sort. Created and left here on accident? Also note the title. Person who formerly started with "216" (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as placeholder redirect. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think this is eligible for speedy deletion per G6 and possibly G7. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:11, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Even if we don't 'speedy' this, it'll be gone soon. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:55, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't understand why the old name wasn't left on this redirect. And it has been sitting like this for almost 6 years, so hardly in need of a speedy delete, but I agree, it looks like it will be gone soon enough. - Donald Albury 16:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Religious founder[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 30#Religious founder

Religious affiliation[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 30#Religious affiliation

Defence screen (Farscape)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No longer specifically mentioned in the article. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Shield (Stargate)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 13:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No longer specifically mentioned in the article. Overly vague. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Not a widely used jargon term that requires a redirect. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:10, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the nominator. Although I am a fan of the franchise, the redirect is not currently needed and I concur with AngusWOOF. --TheSandDoctor Talk 00:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Lista De Religioes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. What the hell Eubot ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:FORRED. Steel1943 (talk) 17:19, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Toad from the mario games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 00:54, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Worthless redirects that can easily take readers to the target article just by an external search. It's also worth pointing out that the creator has created worthless redirects like these in the past. ToThAc (talk) 16:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop the violence[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Drafted a dirty dab from the suggestions, feel free to improve AngusWOOF and TheSandDoctor. Restored Stop the violence (disambiguation), pointed here ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:09, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: this redirect page makes it more difficult for users to locate other uses of this term via the search engine. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Subtopic redirects to Dress[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all except shift dress, where it appears AngusWOOF has started work on a stub. -- Tavix (talk) 13:28, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

None of these redirects are mentioned at the target article. Thus, readers attempting to find information about these topic will not find what they are looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 14:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom, except Shift dress which can expand to a stub article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:12, 21 May 2018 (UTC) updated 23:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - To the extent that readers want to know more about fashion in terms of seasons and other details, then I guess it's better to just let them use the search engine. Worth mentioning as well that the general redirect 'Winter fashion' doesn't exist. 174.206.36.61 (talk) 05:04, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I stumbled upon this RfD because I read this article and wanted to know what a shift dress was. I guess I agree that a redirect is pointless if the target doesn't say anything, but dress does say (under 17th century), Working women ... used simple patterns to create shifts. Don't know if that's enough to justify the redirect. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:39, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not. List of dresses recommends the searcher to visit Category:Dresses to see all the different types. I noticed that Sheath dress is a comparable to Shift dress so that one could potentially be an article. [4] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:13, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We got lots of pictures of Shift Dress in Commons! [5] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Skirt & dress[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per WP:XY; Skirt is a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 14:34, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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List of religions by age[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 13:23, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This certainly WP:SURPRISEd me when I was looking for a list of religions, rather than a list of people. List of religions and spiritual traditions isn't organized by age, and Timeline of religion has a broader scope. Can anything be done with this? (Should it?) BDD (talk) 14:07, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • We can delete it! (because WP:XY). It does have history, but hasn't been edited for 10 years. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:20, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete founders isn't a bad place to start, but there's nothing in that list that shows when they established the religion, so someone looking for ages will not get what they want. And in some cases, the religion isn't established until after the founder has died. Other religions don't have a founder. So until such information is incorporated in the founder list or in a separate list, this isn't needed. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • N.b., I found this when looking into the RfD for Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 17#Former religion, in hopes that we might have a place that effectively listed defunct religions. It doesn't seem we do, and as I think about it, I realize how difficult such a list could be to compile. --BDD (talk) 18:54, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Given that many spiritual traditions either don't have a clear founder or else the relationship between the founder and the faith is complex (including, as stated above, things coming into being after the founder has died)... yes, this seems like something where deletion is the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 17:09, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Chris Comstock[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:27, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Comstock is another person. Should this redirect point there? feminist (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is there evidence that either of them has been called "Chris Comstock"? —Kusma (t·c) 14:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes on the DJ [6] [7] [8] Hatnote should be added to the other one. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep then. If the other Christopher hasn't been called Chris we don't even need a hatnote at Marshmello. —Kusma (t·c) 12:00, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Chris Comstock is the birth name of Marshmello, who is most probably the primary topic. —Z0 (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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2060 Summer Olympics[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G4. The redirect was deleted before as a result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 18#2060 Summer Olympics. It's the third (re)creation, so it's also time for some salt. -- Tavix (talk) 14:01, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:CRYSTAL, too soon to be creating this. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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2034 Asian Games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:24, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:CRYSTAL, too soon to be creating this. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:39, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Just some redirect creators looking to get credit for the future creation of these articles. WP:CRYSTAL » Z0 | talk 07:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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2030 Asian Games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:24, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:CRYSTAL, too soon to be creating this. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Just some redirect creators looking to get credit for the future creation of these articles. WP:CRYSTAL » Z0 | talk 07:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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2038 FIFA World Cup[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 21:23, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:CRYSTAL, too soon to be creating this. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, 20 years away. GiantSnowman 14:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I agree. It's presumptive to talk about a possible event so far into the future. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Delete. Just some redirect creators looking to get credit for the future creation of these articles. WP:CRYSTAL » Z0 | talk 07:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Republic of Malaysia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. {{R from incorrect name}} (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 01:53, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect should be deleted because Malaysia is not a republic and never was a republic. It is constitutional monarchy that is a sultanate. Otis the Texan (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. It might make sense to target an article discussing republican movements in Malaysia, however we have no such article that I can find and based on google results it doesn't seem to be a significant topic in Malaysian politics - less significant even than in Norway (c.f. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republic of Norway). Thryduulf (talk) 14:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and tag with {{R from incorrect name}}. It's a very plausible error, since Malaysians elect people to represent them in the Parliament of Malaysia. I myself was surprised in my early Wikipedian days to learn that the British don't consider themselves to have a republican government. As per Republic, "In American English, the definition of a republic refers specifically to a form of government in which elected individuals represent the citizen body." So while I can completely respect that countries with monarchs will not call themselves republics under such circumstances, we must assume American readers, if no one else, could make such mistakes. And at the risk of venturing too far into WP:WAX territory, we tend to keep other incorrect redirects for countries and their governments, such as Prime Minister of the United States or Republic of Japan. In fact, the latter's RfD has discussion that bolsters my point. --BDD (talk) 20:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per BDD, considering BDD found one of the very past discussions for keeping such redirects that I was attempting to find myself. Steel1943 (talk) 19:34, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:51, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Technically, the nation is a "federal constitutional monarchy with a Westminster-style parliamentary system of legislators" or something like that, indeed. Yet, as stated above, the definition of what is or isn't properly "republican" as far as structure goes is a shades-of-grey issue. I'd prefer that we err on the side of leaving the redirect be. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Field hockey at the 2019 Pan American Games – Women's tournament[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Unopposed. -- Tavix (talk) 13:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Way too early for this redirect to even exist. No information exists about the event (at least for now). Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:47, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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