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May 20[edit]

Please help - I have added a file in grandparents section - it is way too big. I had created a caption too. please help - sorry. 2001:8003:D968:5701:D02:3A9C:54C7:9AA4 (talk) 01:00, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, It was just missing "thumb". MB 03:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

George Hulse[edit]

My friend GEORGE HULSE, is alive and well. He is a living, breathing African-American Health Industry Executive here in New York City. Therefore, his photo should NOT be appearing on Wikipedia for the bio of George Hulse the White British actor who died in 2001. Please remove the black American Mr. Hulse's pic from the deceased white British Mr. Hulse's bio. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allendewane (talkcontribs) 01:23, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Allendewane: Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. – Þjarkur (talk) 01:27, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Allendewane:: to add to Þjarkur's advice above, please note that the Wikipedia article about George Hulse the actor does not have a photo, and there are no Wikipedia article about any other persons called George Hulse. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 21:27, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How To Get A Simple Wikipedia Page for a Company[edit]

I represent a large corporation in a marketing capacity. Recently, my contact at this company asked about what could be done to get them referenced on Wikipedia. I contacted a company that focuses on writing articles for Wikipedia and they said that the only way a company can receive a dedicated Wikipedia entry is by providing examples of how this company has received dedicated exposure in the past - not through press releases or other self promotional means, but by exposure in a major publication that was not obviously instigated by the company itself.

I searched and found several articles about this company on different mediums, with a few referencing my client right in the headline, but the third-party Wikipedia editing company said it wasn't enough.

I'm confused because when I do searches for other companies on Wikipedia, I find several that don't have strong - or any - references. At least there are not references I can see.

For instance, I did a search on a local attraction called Bonanzaville and the following Wikipedia page came up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonanzaville,_USA

There doesn't seem to be any references that led to the establishment of this page, and there's a notation that this page is a "stub." I'm guessing that means it won't get a major writeup. So that leads me to the question, if my company doesn't have the right references for a comprehensive writeup, would I be able to establish a "stub" page?

Appreciate the help anyone can provide.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.186.101.235 (talk) 04:57, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. Stub or full-blown article, a company still has to satisfy WP:CORP. I've also nominated Bonanzaville, USA for deletion. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Other inappropriate articles existing does not mean others can, too. If you know of other companies that do not merit articles, feel free to nominate them for deletion. As this is a volunteer project, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected; we can only deal with the ones we know about. Also note that any company that claims to specify in writing Wikipedia articles must have its employees comply with WP:PAID. You too must comply with WP:PAID if you are here as a representative of your company. 331dot (talk) 12:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Long-time volunteers here are leery of paid editing in general, on the grounds that a truly notable subject will attract the interest of a volunteer eventually. You appear to be dealing with a fairly ethical paid editor. Others might claim that they can get an article accepted for you and take your money, after which the article will get deleted and you will have no recourse. More than 200 articles get deleted every day, mostly because the subject lacks notability by our definition. -Arch dude (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to include the actual Arctic portal icon – instead of the default portal icon – in the footer of the above template?--Hildeoc (talk) 13:10, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The image was inserted with {{icon}} template with has predefined set of images to display. So you cannot use it unless the icon is added there which also must have sort of justification before being added. Alternately the image can be inserted directly without using the {{icon}} template, but even then it would be good to know what's even the icon of the Portal:Arctic? And why the change is needed. – Ammarpad (talk) 20:11, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting info in article[edit]

How do I submit the following info? Seems like there should be a clear link to submit such feedback, but I couldn't find it quickly. How do I submit the following?...

The Yellow Jacket article contains conflicting info: one sentence says the queen lives through the winter, and a few sentences later it says the queen dies in the autumn: "Yellowjackets are social hunters living in colonies containing workers, queens, and males (drones). Colonies are annual with only inseminated queens overwintering." …"From this time until her death in the autumn, the queen remains inside the nest, laying eggs."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.211.84 (talk)

You can tell any concerns you have with an article on its talk page, in this case, Talk:Yellowjacket. Every article should have a link to its talk page at the top of the screen(if you are on a computer). 331dot (talk) 15:39, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Wikitable[edit]

I've been editing the HP Saturn CPU article and another editor insists that the following Wikitable be present, where'd I'd use an SVG file instead if it were my choice :

HP Saturn register fields
Bits 63-60 59-56 55-52 51-48 47-44 43-40 39-36 35-32 31-28 27-24 23-20 19-16 15-12 11-8   7-4   3-0 
Nibble F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
Fields   XS B
  A
S M X
W
P=0   P
P=7   WP

The problem is that I'd like to get rid of the the blank table cells in the column that contains the "P = 0" and "P = 7" table cells and merge them into the dark grey background.

In an SVG editor this is trivial, but I'm not very well versed in wiki markup and I have been tearing my hair out about how to get rid of the above empty cells.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jdbtwo (talk) 15:51, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Changed, let me know if that works.Naraht (talk) 17:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! :D It worked perfectly :) Jdbtwo (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with the edit history when splitting an article[edit]

The list of 21st-century earthquakes is far too long and should I think be split into list of earthquakes 2001–2010 and list of earthquakes 2011–2020. I suggested this back in August last year on the article talk page and I commented again recently in the same section to announce my intent. There has been no response in the nine months since my initial suggestion, so I'm planning on being bold and just splitting the article. Splitting the content is trivial, but there are some issues concerning practicalities:

  • Do I create two new pages and later ask for the original to be deleted or rename one of them and create the other (does anyone care)?
  • How do I handle the editing history? Do I copy the original into both articles or somehow split them, although I don't know how to go about that?

I've read WP:SPLITTING, but it doesn't really address this kind of split. Mikenorton (talk) 15:54, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mikenorton See WP:CORRECTSPLIT and copying within Wikipedia for how to handle the editing history for attribution purposes. Basically, your edit summary should say, "Contents [[WP:SPLIT]] from [[Source article name]]; please see its history for attribution." and add the {{Copied|from=|from_oldid=|to=|diff=}} template to the talk page of both articles. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:48, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but the original article would be redundant and should be deleted, so where does the shared editing history go? Apologies if I'm being dumb about this. Mikenorton (talk) 16:59, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would move the original article to list of earthquakes 2001–2010, then split off the post-2011 stuff into list of earthquakes 2011–2020. The shared history would then be at list of earthquakes 2001–2010. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:13, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, you could turn list of 21st-century earthquakes into a dab page, listing each decade's article, and leave the history where it is. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:15, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I like that final suggestion (and the other would also work). Mikenorton (talk) 18:10, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references duplicate key[edit]

Hello, I just need help fixing a citation for the public Criminology page. Claims a citation was used multiple times under different context. Thank you. TaylorMarcusStudent (talk) 17:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TaylorMarcusStudent. Two different references are defined with ref name=":1":
  • Turner, E. (2013). "Beyond 'Facts' and 'Values': Rethinking Some Recent Debates about the Public Role of Criminology". British Journal of Criminology. 53 (1): 149–166. doi:10.1093/bjc/azs048. ISSN 0007-0955.
  • Rock, Paul (2010). "Comment on "Public Criminologies"". Criminology & Public Policy. 9 (4): 751–767. doi:10.1111/j.1745-9133.2010.00667.x. ISSN 1538-6473.
Visual editor gives references names like that. It is much better to use names like "Turner2013" and "Rock2010" to avoid mixups like this, but the visual editor makes that difficult. If you have trouble tracking down which references are which I can look at the history to see if that helps. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:24, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TaylorMarcusStudent, it turned out to be easy to find so I fixed it. Happy editing. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The ownership of marie byrd land[edit]

Marie byrd land is owned and not unclaimed land — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.138.21 (talk) 19:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

courtesy link: Marie Byrd Land (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Eman235/talk 19:23, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And possibly also Territorial claims in Antarctica - X201 (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, IP user. If you have suggestions to make for improving an article, the best place to make them is on the talk page of the article: in this case, Talk:Marie Byrd Land. Any information to be added requires a reliable published source. --ColinFine (talk) 19:26, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]