Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yaw Myay F.C.

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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:55, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yaw Myay F.C.[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG Search revealed only mentions in score/scheduling database sites. // Timothy :: talk 02:04, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. // Timothy :: talk 02:04, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:GNG as written. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:26, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 11:17, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 11:19, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep on the basis of the new sources found below. Giant Snowman 10:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Article does meet WP:FOOTYN. Found mentions in articles such as this and this which shows that this club does exist and does play in the MNL-2, which is a national level league. There are plenty of mentions of the club when you search their name on google and focus on the sourced site. Article might fail WP:GNG though. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 17:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - plays in a national league Spiderone 11:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep agree per above.SoeThiha5 (talk) 19:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I don't understand this nomination. The team plays in the second tier of Myanmar football, and all teams in the second tier participate in the national cup. Not surprisingly, all teams in the second level also have articles. With the top tier being fully professional, we normally argue whether the players in the second tier are notable - I don't recall ever seeing a discussion about whether clubs themselves are notable. I'm really surprised at User:GiantSnowman's delete - which seems unusual for a club at this level. The prime issue here is a complete lack of access to media in that country. Nfitz (talk) 23:06, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - FOOTYN is an out-of-date WikiProject guideline only, what matters here is GNG, and those !voting 'keep' admit there is no coverage. So why is this club notable? Giant Snowman 11:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 13:54, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't even find mention of the city it's in, in a Burmese media search ... a lack of available online media in the west, combined with an impenetrable script, does not equal "no coverage". I'm not aware that we've depreciated the plays in national tournament guideline ... and it's not even borderline here ... the first tier is fully professional, this is the second tier ... and the third tier also plays in the national cup. To not include this, is huge WP:BIAS. Nfitz (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: WP:FOOTYN states: "teams are required to meet the general notability guideline. The following guidance may indicate at what level teams generally have enough coverage to meet the GNG. The criteria listed below aren't notability guidelines themselves but rather mere tips for confirming if the teams meet GNG, which this does not. It has mentions in a few local sources but per nom most search results end up in automated databases. As people who voted "keep" already admit it fails the first step of establishing notability, this isn't a hard one. GN-z11 ^☎ ^★ 19:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I just found some coverage of Yaw Myay FC in reliable Burmese news see [1], [2], [3], search with Burmese language [ယောမြေအက်ဖ်စီ]. I think there is enough to meet WP:GNG. Cape Diamond MM (talk) 18:52, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good Find! Coverage - GNG met! I must have been messing up my search. Gosh, that should even melt User:GiantSnowman's objections! Nfitz (talk)

Comment I've been looking for sources of information about the team to add information to the article, but I have been unable to find any. I'd like to save the article and change my vote to keep, but the references listed above are simply scores and references to particpation in individuals games and one about a team member getting into a fight, not information about the team itself. WP:GNG states "Significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail ... Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention". I'm just not seeing this in any of the above references. If I am missing something, please direct me to it and I will be happy to add it to the article. I really would like to improve the article and change my vote. // Timothy :: talk 12:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I expect what you are missing are newspapers that you'd get on the street. Nfitz (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can those meet WP:V? I really am hoping someone puts up some sources so I can change to keep. // Timothy :: talk 18:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lol very negative. Cape Diamond MM (talk) 01:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes WP:FOOTYN plays in national league.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:46, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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