Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Razmik Papikyan

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Razmik Papikyan[edit]

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Fails WP:NMMA and WP:GNG Nswix (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports, Martial arts, and Armenia. Nswix (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - He has 8 other wikipedia pages, wikimedia commons photos and placed in what was equivalent to the world championships - 2020 Individual Wrestling World Cup. The MMA guidelines shouldn't be mentioned here since the author of this really didn't go into his MMA career. He also generally seems to be a figure of interest in Armenia judging by the references. The "News" section needs cleaned up or removed though.KatoKungLee (talk) 21:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The number of wiki pages he has does not impact notability on the English WP. I have corrected the article's incorrect claims of a bronze medal at the 2020 World Cup--which was downgraded from an official world championship event because at least 8 of the world's top countries did not participate (due to Covid-19). Junior championships do not show notability and he has yet to have success as an adult at a major world event. I'm not voting to delete the article, which is my inclination, because I haven't looked at the sources to see if WP:GNG is met. Papaursa (talk) 14:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There are 50 sources in this article, WTF. We can immediately discount those that are obviously non-independent: his own website, UWW (8 refs), the Armenian National Olympic Committee (3 refs); primary: youtube and flowrestling videos of fights (10 refs); unreliable sources: panarmenian.net, blognews.am. Of the remaining 26 sources, 4 are routine fight/transactional press: [1], [2], [3], [4]; 3 are essentially database entries: [5], [6], [7]; 13 are trivial/passing mentions: [8] and [9] (identical), [10], [11] and [12] (identical), [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20]; 2 are Q&A interviews: [21], [22]; 2 I can't access (Vnews.am)

Only two articles had anything that could possibly contribute to BASIC: one is just six sentences of mostly-independent background info before an interview: [23], the other contains 8 sentences in an interview intro that are a mix between independent and reporting what Papikyan "wants" or "feels" (not independent): [24]. Altogether, I am not seeing a GNG pass. JoelleJay (talk) 00:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per deep dive and rational completed by JoelleJay. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.