Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kings–Golden Knights rivalry

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftified.‎. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:44, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kings–Golden Knights rivalry[edit]

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Welp if my last submission to create a rivalry page didn't get any traction, this one has far less to throw around PontiacAurora (talk) 04:17, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since you mention another example, can you please link it for reference? - Indefensible (talk) 04:56, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don’t even think about deleting this page. There’s plenty of sources to prove they have a rivalry. If this page was created at the time of the Knights' inaugural season, then these conversations would stand, but it’s been 6 years, and there should be enough info to gather on the Kings-Golden Knights rivalry. Marino13 (talk) 07:00, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the previous discussion on this topic: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golden Knights-Kings rivalry. Marino13 did not participate in this conversation. Conyo14 (talk) 17:10, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ice hockey, California, and Nevada. Shellwood (talk) 09:10, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G4 (recreation of a page deleted in a deletion discussion). Please refer to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golden Knights-Kings rivalry which was closed with overwhelming consensus to delete on 24 June 2023. Frank Anchor 10:40, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G4: I not only concur with Frank Anchor, Marino13 is due for a sharp reprimand for recreating this just two days after the prior AfD closed. They've received a few too many talk page warnings over the years to be unaware of our policies and guidelines regarding proper sourcing, as well as civility. Ravenswing 11:19, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is possible Marino13 was unaware of the recent deletion since the article was created with the team names reversed and this user did not participate in the previous AFD. However G4 applies whether the re-creation was disruptive or if it was made in good faith. Frank Anchor 12:23, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

At least I research the sources before I add them on to a page. Delete this page and will only be brought back as a draft. You should know better. Marino13 (talk) 16:42, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Attempt to bring this back after being deleted twice in a week, and not only will this be liable to being salted, but you'll be courting a block. You should know better. Anyone carrying the attitude of "Screw what you all think, I'm going to do whatever I want regardless" is someone who doesn't belong on the encyclopedia. Ravenswing 03:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whereas one only wishes to create and expand, I feel like there are those whose efforts to build a good page are being purged despite proof of valid, factual sources. It’s in draft mode now, so YOU don’t have to worry about it being incorrectly recreated. Marino13 (talk) 16:08, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per nom. At least the previous edition had one source meeting WP:GNG. Also, considering your behavior and threat of recreating the article, Marino13, this can get you on the WP:ANI. Conyo14 (talk) 17:10, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of arguing about it, maybe help out with the creation of this article. I am looking at various sources to keep this page up. And following the example of other hockey rivalry pages too. Marino13 (talk) 17:23, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete - exactly what G4 is for Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:57, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as per WP:G4. Recreation of a page deleted as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Golden Knights-Kings rivalry. Flibirigit (talk) 11:27, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment this article was moved to Draft:Kings–Golden Knights rivalry by User:ONUnicorn, who declined a G4 request with the rationale: decline G4 - this isn't "substantially identical" to the deleted version. That said, I will be moving this to draft. I HIGHLY suggest it go through WP:AFC, given the history. There doesn't appear to be anything more to do here, so I recommend a procedural close. I will not do so myself, as I am involved in the discussion. Anyone is free to open a WP:MFD discussion if they object to having a draft version. Frank Anchor 16:03, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note I have declined the WP:G4 as it was not "substantially identical" to the deleted version (different creator, different sources, different wording). That said, it had all the same problems as the deleted version (lack of WP:RS coverage). I have moved it to draft, and I suggest, since an article on this topic has previously been AFD'd, that the creator send this through WP:AFC rather than moving it to mainspace directly. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:12, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ONUnicorn, would you close this AFD discussion then? Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I wasn't sure if I should or if I should leave it for someone else. I'll close it. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.