Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khaled Soliman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. After three re-lists there is no consensus to delete this article, whose sources have been difficult to verify (understandably); can be revisited again (non-admin closure) Aszx5000 (talk) 20:28, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Khaled Soliman[edit]

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I don't believe this former Olympian has enough notability for a standalone article. There are some small pieces online relating to his coaching career and brief mentions in newspaper archives. But nothing I can find contributes to GNG.

As Soliman competed in both the foil and epee events, and is not mentioned in the Fencing at the 1984 Summer Olympics article, there is no obvious redirect target here as far as I can see. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 11:53, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports, Olympics, Egypt, and United States of America. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 11:53, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe Egypt at the 1984 Summer Olympics? BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:59, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I should say explicitly that I agree with this as a redirect target. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep According to Al-Ahram, his name was actually Khaled Abdulrahman, and under that name I have been able to find some sources, despite their archive not being the best for searching:

٤ دول تشترك حتى الان ببطولة اكتوبر الدولية للسلاح بالقاهرة (4 countries are participating so far in the October International Arms Championship in Cairo) July 31, 1978, pg. 10

فوز عبدالحميد صبحي ببطولة الجمهورية لسلاح سيف المبارزة (Abdul Hameed Sobhi won the National Sabre Fencing Championship) September 30, 1985, pg. 10

"لجنة المسابقات تقرر بداء لدوري غدا وتأجيله بعد اسبوعين إلى يوم ١٤ ديسمبر" (The Competitions Committee decides to start the Games tomorrow and postpone them after two weeks to December 14th) August 31, 1989, pg. 10

All of these sources discuss, although admittedly do not feature, him and his fencing, and I believe that, given their span and sustained coverage, it should satisfy the general guidelines at WP:N. If I had more time, I might be able to overcome the search engine issues - and it doesn't help that there was a footballer active at the same time with the same name - but hopefully this is sufficient to at least keep the article. Canadian Paul 03:26, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Enos733 (talk) 22:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 1984 Summer Olympics BLP, fails GNG and BIO, single ref in article is a database record, BEFORE showed routine sports news and mentions, nothing that meets SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from IS RS. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 19:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Surely Egypt at the 1984 Summer Olympics is a better redirect target as he is mentioned in that article? MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 10:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note that that part of the BLP guideline is there to make sure that information is truly verifiable, not gossip - it's saying where there are sources present about any detail that could be contentious, make sure they are good ones; it is not saying that a BLP cannot exist if the major sources supporting it are newspapers. Just to make sure you're applying the guideline correctly, since I've seen you quote that line in a few deletion discussions and it doesn't have anything to do with N. Kingsif (talk) 09:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:50, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: per request for further input.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 15:39, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Timothy. Therapyisgood (talk) 18:09, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. Although they don't sound too in-depth, I'm willing to trust that Canadian Paul's offline sources are sufficient if he believes them to be - especially since the vast majority of sources potentially covering him are very difficult to access. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.