Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dionna Marie Dal Monte

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. slakr^\ talk / 13:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dionna Marie Dal Monte[edit]

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This is a biography of a living person, yet nothing in the article is verifiable. There are no reliable sources, and I can't find any. Basically, it is an unreferenced BLP and as such needs to be deleted. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:56, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The lack of references is more a cause for a blp PROD tag, but subject does not seem to be notable.TheLongTone (talk) 13:19, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a cese for a WP:BLP-PROD, because there are some references, albeit they are not reliable. BLP-PROD may be used only when there are no references of any kind. Vanjagenije (talk) 15:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The article is terrible. Yet she could be famosa. An "indiscreet" website (not obviously as stupid as its title suggests) has an article about her (with a biography), calling her La famosa cantante newyorchese Dionna Marie. She could be big in Italy: Nell'agosto del 2012 Dionna sceglie uno dei migliori studio europei, i Massive Art Studio di Milano, per incidere quello che sara' ricordato come l'album rivelazione del 2012, says the article. -- Hoary (talk) 14:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dionna Marie Dal Monte is the daughter of one of the most famous American Pornstar, Screenwriter and Actor (Victor Colicchio). She recorded a cd with a Ramone (With Marky Ramone), a song with David Peel (The Pope Smokes Dope), a song with Death SS. U should stop to delete her page for political reasons. I will report you to the attention of the world press if you go on this way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepevalentine (talk • contribs) 21:15, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I really wouldn't mind some attention of the world press. I like attention. By the way, notability is not inherited per WP:NOTINHERITED. Being a daughter of a famous person, and working with famous persons do not make one notable. Reliable independent sources are needed to establish notability. Vanjagenije (talk)

Hello Pepe. I note that

you are the creator of the article;
the page at lindiscreto.it to which I linked above says: Il padre, Victor Colicchio, ex pornostar di fama mondiale con lo pseudonimo PEpe Valentine, e' famoso attore e sceneggiatore: ha scritto tra gli altri il film di Spike Lee Summer of Sam, ispirato alla sua vita reale, e diversi episodi della serie televisiva LAW AND ORDER, in cui e' anche attore.

I therefore have a question for you: Are you Pepe Valentine?

If you are Pepe Valentine, then you have a conflict of interest which you should declare. Or anyway, make it clear that you are her father.
If you are not Pepe Valentine, then your username "Pepevalentine" infringes Wikipedia's username policy.

I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to your speedy reply here. -- Hoary (talk) 03:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I am not Pepe Valentine I used the porn name of her father. HEre you are some articles that explains ou why Dionna Dal Monte should be in wikipedia. 1) She recorded a cd with her songs with Marky Ramone as a drummer, in the only cd from Adios Amigos where Marky plays original songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDECwbi66I in the video Marky Ramone says: Dionna's songs are memorables and will be for years and years from now). 2) She also recorded a single with John Lennon Guru's DAVID PEEL, she is the only artist that David Peel allowed to remake a version of his songs, in this case the 1972 john lennon's producer THE POPE SMOKES DOPE, where Dionna duets with David Peel, and 3) a single with the band DEATH SS (Hangin on the devil's wall). Here with Marky Ramone: https://itunes.apple.com/it/album/with-marky-ramone-single/id585327599 here with David Peel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ThVzPQBilg 4) You are deleting Dionna's page because you think she is famous only for being white power (she is not, as she told to GQ she has a swastica tatooed on her breast only because she likes the symbol: http://www.gqitalia.it/show/musica/2013/ottobre/dionna-del-monte-il-tatuaggio-con-la-svastica-una-questione-estetica 5) I don't know why you report an article of a small webmagazine like l'indiscreto (I am an Italian fan of Dionna) when magazines as ROLLING STONE, GQ, MAXIM published articles about Dionna Dal Monte (RS: http://www.rollingstonemagazine.it/musica/news-musica/avenue-x-tre-generazioni-punk-riunite/46750/ GQ http://www.gqitalia.it/show/musica/2011/12/marky-ramone-torna-a-suonare-con-lo-skypunker-italiano-e-l-ex-attrice-dei-sopranos). She is wife of a very famous skydiver: Skypunker (www.skypunker.com) that has a program on Italian MTV and is always on Maxim, Playboy, GQ, Max etc. There is also a lot of interest about her collaboration with David Peel: http://sentireascoltare.com/news/the-pope-smokes-dope-rivisitata-la-collaborazione-tra-john-lennon-e-david-peel/ ... 6) Dionna is known by all the hollywood stars and she appeared in 4 movies. I don't understand the reason why she cannot be in wikipedia: isn't wikipedia an Encyclopedia? Here we see a person that people know, that recorded songs with rockstars, that's becoming famous worldwide, that has articles on GQ, Rolling Stone, Maxim.... So, I see people very not important are on wiki. Why Dionna not??? 7) She has been also on Italian Rock TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfwTzuJ9c8Q on NYC based Steve Stanulis Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1it4OoV5aI and in rockin america http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUvkvc9loGw, not counting 8) that her song YOU MEAN EVERYTHING TO ME is in every Alitalia airflight, is played on Italian Virgin Radio, and 9) the song TONIGHT is in the compilation REVOLVER of VIRGIN RADIO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUvkvc9loGw on Disc 2 track 18, together with Sex Pistols, Stranglers, Iggy Pop... not mentioning that she played twice at the world famous Italian rockabilly festival Summer Jamboree in front of 40.000 people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepevalentine (talk • contribs) 17:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS She is also in IMDB, as I linked. acting in 4 movies, including Spike Lee's masterpiece Summer of Sam. If you google her name, you will find a lot of informations about her. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0171468/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepevalentine (talk • contribs) 17:50, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Belated discovery: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dionna Dal Monte. -- Hoary (talk) 12:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as re-creation of content deleted per a deletion discussion, as indicated by Hoary. As a second choice, regular delete because nothing here indicates that the subject is notable as an actress -- her IMDb entry indicates that she has never even played a character with a personal name (her biggest role seems to be as "Girl at Block Party") -- nor as a musician per WP:MUSIC. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, she just seems to be mentioned here and there. So delete. But since this second AfD has already started, let it run its dreary course. And then the two article titles can be salted in order to prevent more timewasting in the future. If D(M)DM becomes much written about in the future, an article can still be written if it's done in the right way. -- Hoary (talk) 08:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.