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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to The Elf on the Shelf. RL0919 (talk) 19:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christa Pitts[edit]

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The awards aren't enough to meet biographic notability and it's not clear she's independently notable of her company or its famous product. A redirect to Elf on the Shelf, where her book has also been redirected and which most of the sources are actually about would be fine Star Mississippi 16:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: The Adweek, Entrepreneur and Good Housekeeping articles are specifically about Pitts, which demonstrates notability. Toughpigs (talk) 17:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This biography of a living person does not speak for itself and does not explain what third parties have said about her. It says what she and her company say about her, and that is not important. The article has been reference-bombed, so an assessment of the sources is not feasible. The Heymann criterion is, first, to identify between three and five sources, and, second, within seven days, to include text in the article based on what the sources say that establish biographical notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Does the originator have a conflict of interest? After becoming autoconfirmed, they have made no edits other than to this article. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I think the source push this just over WP:GNG. Adweek is likely the best source here. Others are interviews, which are questionable. Needs some clean up, potentially. tla 02:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or redirect: Good Housekeeping and Entrepreneur are interviewers, with the standard introduction. Likewise, Adweek relies largely on what she says so even with all three sources together there's not enough to meet WP:BASIC and the coverage is largely about The Elf on the Shelf so appears to be WP:BIO1E. Redirecting to The Elf on the Shelf is an WP:ATD option though. S0091 (talk) 19:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect: there's nothing here other than her association with Elf on the Shelf, so even if there is enough coverage to technically pass WP:GNG I don't see how it would serve readers to have a separate article for Pitts anyway. That said, I'm not convinced that there is the coverage of Pitts we would need anyway: the sources about her are interviews (I don't have the full text of the Adweek article, but contra tla, that also appears to be an interview, judging by the subheadline "Christa Pitts on taking The Elf on the Shelf from a self-published book to a global IP"). But she is mentioned at The Elf on the Shelf and that redirect would be a valid WP:ATD. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 15:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional conversation regarding WP:1E/WP:BLP1E would be helpful in establishing a firmer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to The Elf on the Shelf: AdWeek is good, but most of the sources cited her and that I've found via searching Google and Proquest lack independence from the article subject. I don't think BLP1E applies since being a CEO of a company isn't an event. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Perhaps borderline but the full profile in Adweek and multiple other significant sources that extend beyond mere mentions confer independent notability in my view. WilsonP NYC (talk) 21:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which other sources? S0091 (talk) 21:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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