Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018–19 Southland Conference men's basketball season

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2018–19 Southland Conference men's basketball season[edit]

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As a D1 division I have no doubt that sourcing exists to make this article policy compliant but as it stands now fails NSEASON and serves primarily as a sports directory. Was created by a now blocked user but has been updated by others since then. Suggest delete or draftify until it can consist mainly of well-sourced prose, not just statistics and lists of players. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have no doubt that sourcing exists to make this article policy compliant: If that is the case, it seems unnecessarily bureaucratic to AfD this. Moreover, WP:BEFORE is expected to be performed prior to a nomination, and sources existing would preclude deletion. Per the policy WP:DEL-CONTENT, we generally do not delete notable topics merely due to content issues. @Barkeep49: Please consider withdrawing this unless your BEFORE shows a notability issue. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 08:40, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Bagumba, NSEASON is a notability guideline. NOT is a policy. I am making a policy based argument for why this argument should not exist. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 10:19, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Barkeep49: Understood, but we would not delete for not meeting NSEASON if GNG is met, which you indicated in your nomination that you believe it would. If sources exist to take this topic beyond a directory, than NOT is ... not a concern.—Bagumba (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Well in all fairness NSEASON would suggest a redirect is the correct solution to the issues presented by this article which I didn't suggest in my nom but seems like a PAG acceptable outcome too. In the time this article has existed, which is through the entire season, 4 sentences of prose has been added while 5 different directory tables have been added. We have no deadline can argue for this side too - when someone is ready with a policy and guidelines compliant article we should have one. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 10:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:NSEASONS says to redirect ... if no sourced prose can be created. However, there is a big difference between "can be created" versus "has been created". The main question should be, "Does this topic meet WP:GNG"?—Bagumba (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. AFD is not cleanup. As you say yourself, it is very likely that there are sources to make this article compliant. This article needs work, not deletion. Dammit_steve (talk) 08:42, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. If sources exist, then it should not be nominated for deletion. It should be tagged and improved.--TM 10:32, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep AFD is not cleanup. No valid reason specified for deletion, complete waste of our time. Smartyllama (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep WP:BEFORE was not performed. Per policy WP:DEL-CONTENT, If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Nominator leaves discussion open to make a WP:POINT about technicality in WP:NSEASONS.—Bagumba (talk) 11:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. AFD is not cleanup. Sources exist to show that this subject meets WP:GNG. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:20, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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