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The result was merge to Maccabi Haifa F.C.#Early years. Clear consensus that there is some material here worth merging to the main club article. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:07, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1922–23 Maccabi Haifa F.C. season[edit]

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Removed PROD, article fails WP:NSEASONS and I feel this fails WP:GNG also. Govvy (talk) 16:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Govvy (talk) 16:18, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Per WP:NSEASONS, this is presumed to be notable as historic information regarding a team that plays in a top professional league, and should be merged with Maccabi Haifa F.C. rather than deleted. The article is prose, not merely statistics and lists. This was an abbreviated season, and I expect additional sources would be limited due to world and regional events since 1922/23, so a detailed article is unlikely to be developed, therefore merge and redirect to the main article on the club is appropriate. Jack N. Stock (talk) 16:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I don't see why you would need to merge anything, the club reorganised in 1923, however there is nothing else of interest to note. Nothing else significant happened. Also the league wasn't established till 1928. Govvy (talk) 16:33, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America1000 17:20, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. North America1000 17:20, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. North America1000 17:21, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The establishment date of the league is a red herring. Yes, the founding of the league was significant, but nonetheless it was incidental. It's common to trace a pro club's history back to the founding of the club, even if their current (or later) league was not yet established at that time. Here's a random example, and there are numerous others. OK, I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but why not start the history of the club from when the club was founded? It would be fairly easy to include this as part of the history section in the main article, and the main article is of a length that could readily include expansion of the early history. Jack N. Stock (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not notable, not needed, nothing worth merging. GiantSnowman 13:47, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, at least in some form - the article's sourcing is fine, and I'm sure someone could expand this with WP:NEXIST. I think it might be better suited as "Maccabi Haifa in the 1920's," though. SportingFlyer talk 23:51, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - I don't believe that a collection of friendlies qualifies this as a season, per se. However, the information on the Hebrew Cup is well-sourced, and is at the least notable enough to be mentioned in the club article. Maccabi Haifa F.C. certainly needs more information about the club's early years, and this would be a part of the club's history that could be merged in to that section. 21.colinthompson (talk) 19:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Maccabi Haifa F.C.#Early years. It really is all of one line (once you cut out the OR in the lede (10th season) and tables for two matches) - After a period of inactivity, the club was re-organized in February 1923.[1] The club playing a handful of matches during the season, including taking part in a cup competition which was called "The Hebrew Cup". Due to its distance, the club was given a bye to the final,[2] in which it lost of Maccabi Nes Tziona 0–2.[3][4][5]. Icewhiz (talk) 08:05, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Haifa Doar HaYom, 8 February 1923, Historical Jewish Press (in Hebrew)
  2. ^ Maccabi Haifa First Final Loss 24 May 2016, Kaduregel Vintage (in Hebrew)
  3. ^ The Football "Hebrew Cup" Doar HaYom, 11 May 1923, Historical Jewish Press (in Hebrew)
  4. ^ The Hebrew E.I. Cup in Football Doar HaYom 3 May 1923, Historical Jewish Press (in Hebrew)
  5. ^ The Football During the British Mandate Era Asher Goldberg, 28 September 2010, IFA (in Hebrew)
  • Merge per all above comments. Information passes WP:V but WP:NSEASONS would prevent this from being an actual article. Redditaddict69 (talk) (contribs) 21:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge somehow I find it difficult to believe that this was a professional club, when it seems to have had no potential opponents. However it maight in usefully merged to an article on the club or Football in Mandatory Palestine.
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