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Tech News: 2024-15
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
- A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
- Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [1][2]
- Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [3]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [4][5]
- New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [6]
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This Month in GLAM: March 2024
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Hi Valereee
I appreciate your advice. I don't think what I commented was battle-grounding or bludgeoning though, in this instance. Jack4576 (talk) 16:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, there are varying opinions on what constitutes those behaviors. But it's a risky move. Valereee (talk) 16:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand its risky but my primary interest in this website is to contribute toward improving it, intelligently, considerately, and in good faith, I'm not going to be constrained in my approach just because of some motivation to remove sanctions; even if they were imposed for justified reasons at the time.
- Anyway appreciate your comments and advice Valereee. Despite our occasional disagreements in policy debates I have always valued your opinions and contributions. I'm thankful for your weighing in with advice. Go well. Jack4576 (talk) 16:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
WikiCup 2024 April newsletter
We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.
Our current top scorers are as follows:
- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
- voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
- Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
- SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
- Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
- Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.
Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.
If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Closing the T-ban thread at ANI
Hi, Valereee. Thanks for closing the lingering Nycarchitecture212 thread at ANI. I felt a pinprick of worry, though, when I saw Nycarchitecture's quite cheerful reply to your notification. Do you think it's possible that they misread your information about the ban being appealable after six months, as implying that the ban would expire after six months? Of course that is by no means what you said. But, as you remarked, they're quite new. And you didn't actually mention the word "indefinite" anywhere. Do you think we can be sure they got it? Bishonen | tålk 00:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC).
- Hm. Do you have any thoughts on how to fix? It's listed at Editing restrictions as an indef...I could leave another message at their talk explaining further? Valereee (talk) 10:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Request to delete draft of Adel Rehman.
If Adel Rehman's draft is not notable then please remove this draft as soon as possible. It will be your great kindness. Rathorenareshrathore (talk) 07:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Fire safety • Jean Gabin Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • |
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Tech News: 2024-16
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [7][8]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [9][10]
- Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [11]
- A new variable
page_last_edit_age
will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [12]
Future changes
- Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
- Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the
abuse_filter
andabuse_filter_history
tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [13]
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Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is blocked from updating external links. Thank you. This is regarding one of your blocks, the user did not notify you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Antarctic • Fire safety Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • |
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Good article reassessment for Clementine cake
Hello Valereee. I noticed that you recently worked on the Clementine cake article. This is a neutrally-worded notice to advise you that the article has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, you can participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. North America1000 05:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-17
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [14]
- You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [15][16]
Future changes
- This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [17]
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Books & Bytes – Issue 62
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 62, March – April 2024
- IEEE and Haaretz now available
- Let's Connect Clinics about The Wikipedia Library
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The Signpost: 25 April 2024
- In the media: Censorship and wikiwashing looming over RuWiki, edit wars over San Francisco politics and another wikirace on live TV
- News and notes: A sigh of relief for open access as Italy makes a slight U-turn on their cultural heritage reproduction law
- WikiConference report: WikiConference North America 2023 in Toronto recap
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Newspapers (Not WP:NOTNEWS)
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- Traffic report: O.J., cricket and a three body problem
Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review regarding an action which you performed. Thank you. AlexAndrews (talk) 06:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Seriously, paid editors like this exists?
Talk:Jack_Antonoff#Requested_Changes.
Wow. Do you think she's expensive? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- lol...well, she certainly seems to be experienced, and she understands the whole "we're all volunteers, make this easy for us" thing. There's been a similar paid editor at Bob McDonald (businessman) for years. We had to limit their requests, as the urge to polish became absurd. I finally just removed the section on board work as every time he went on or off a board, there was an edit request to update that section. Valereee (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
The Merchant of Venice
Hi,
Could I ask why you have vandalised the Merchant of Venice article and then protected it in its vandalised state?
Thanks,
Alex AlexAndrews (talk) 18:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AlexAndrews, Wikipedia has a very specific definition of vandalism which is editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge. You can find more information at WP:vandalism.
- You have edit-warred to insist upon the addition of content for which you have not been able to get consensus, and you have been casting aspersions on highly-experienced and long-trusted editors who have been pretty darn patient with you while you've done that. Despite the fact several of them have tried to explain the applicable policies to you multiple times, you are apparently unable to or unwilling to understand those policies. This is not serving you well. Valereee (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Valereee, to quote your reply:
... editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia ...
- The purpose of an encyclopedia is to provide facts that are informative and educational. The content I have added is not only factual but informative and educational. That informative and educational material has then been deliberately removed (repeatedly), thereby obstructing the project's purpose. Ergo, according to the definition you have quoted that is vandalism. You and the other editors on the article have vandalised it by removing the informative and educational factual material I have added.
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- I should like to know why?
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- My guess is that there is a chronic case of Groupthink where the article is concerned:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome ... The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup").
- The repeated removal of my informative and educational factual material from the article is wholly irrational given the stated purpose of Wikipedia.
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- So again I ask: why have you vandalised the Merchant of Venice article? Is it because the consensus of the editors on the article is the irrational decision to vandalise it? AlexAndrews (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AlexAndrews, I did not vandalize the article. I protected it from someone who doesn't understand Wikipedia but thinks they do, and because of that is editing disruptively. But you're certainly free to report me to WP:AIV if you think I'm a vandal or to WP:XRV if you believe my admin action needs scrutiny. Valereee (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- As I clearly explained, you did vandalise the article given the stated purpose of Wikipedia that you yourself quoted. You are contradicting yourself and trying to explain away your irrational decision-making by falsely accusing me of editing disruptively (which is, in fact, what the other editors are doing) which I believe is called casting aspersions.
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- So that is first vandalism, then denial of that vandalism through its false rationalisation, and now casting aspersions.
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- All perfectly in line with Groupthink. AlexAndrews (talk) 05:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) AlexAndrews, you have been pointed to the explanation on WP:VANDALISM. You need to never bring it up again in contexts that don't apply or you risk being blocked for a lack of civility or of competence. The same applies to accusations of co-ordinated editing, irrationality, inconsistency, aspersions, groupthink and whatever other terminologies you have been throwing around in attacking and trying to discredit other editors. You're being given some leeway because you're new but you should expect people's patience to run out soon. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Encyclopedic content is non-contentious material that is informative and educational.
- The additions I have made to the article are non-contentious material that is informative and educational; in other words, encyclopedic content.
- Yet that encyclopedic content I have added has been repeatedly removed - that is the definition of vandalism:
... editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia ...
- So please don't falsely accuse me of using the term incorrectly, otherwise you risk being blocked for casting aspersions. AlexAndrews (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) AlexAndrews, you have been pointed to the explanation on WP:VANDALISM. You need to never bring it up again in contexts that don't apply or you risk being blocked for a lack of civility or of competence. The same applies to accusations of co-ordinated editing, irrationality, inconsistency, aspersions, groupthink and whatever other terminologies you have been throwing around in attacking and trying to discredit other editors. You're being given some leeway because you're new but you should expect people's patience to run out soon. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AlexAndrews, I did not vandalize the article. I protected it from someone who doesn't understand Wikipedia but thinks they do, and because of that is editing disruptively. But you're certainly free to report me to WP:AIV if you think I'm a vandal or to WP:XRV if you believe my admin action needs scrutiny. Valereee (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)