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Hi Valereee

I appreciate your advice. I don't think what I commented was battle-grounding or bludgeoning though, in this instance. Jack4576 (talk) 16:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Sure, there are varying opinions on what constitutes those behaviors. But it's a risky move. Valereee (talk) 16:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
I understand its risky but my primary interest in this website is to contribute toward improving it, intelligently, considerately, and in good faith, I'm not going to be constrained in my approach just because of some motivation to remove sanctions; even if they were imposed for justified reasons at the time.
Anyway appreciate your comments and advice Valereee. Despite our occasional disagreements in policy debates I have always valued your opinions and contributions. I'm thankful for your weighing in with advice. Go well. Jack4576 (talk) 16:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
And you! Valereee (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

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Closing the T-ban thread at ANI

Hi, Valereee. Thanks for closing the lingering Nycarchitecture212 thread at ANI. I felt a pinprick of worry, though, when I saw Nycarchitecture's quite cheerful reply to your notification. Do you think it's possible that they misread your information about the ban being appealable after six months, as implying that the ban would expire after six months? Of course that is by no means what you said. But, as you remarked, they're quite new. And you didn't actually mention the word "indefinite" anywhere. Do you think we can be sure they got it? Bishonen | tålk 00:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC).

Hm. Do you have any thoughts on how to fix? It's listed at Editing restrictions as an indef...I could leave another message at their talk explaining further? Valereee (talk) 10:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Another message is a good idea, I think. The user is surely not going to look up what the editing restrictions log says. Bishonen | tålk 15:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC).
They got it lol... Valereee (talk) 21:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
😀 Bishonen | tålk 00:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC).

Request to delete draft of Adel Rehman.

If Adel Rehman's draft is not notable then please remove this draft as soon as possible. It will be your great kindness. Rathorenareshrathore (talk) 07:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

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Good article reassessment for Clementine cake

Hello Valereee. I noticed that you recently worked on the Clementine cake article. This is a neutrally-worded notice to advise you that the article has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, you can participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. North America1000 05:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Valereee (talk) 11:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review regarding an action which you performed. Thank you. AlexAndrews (talk) 06:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Seriously, paid editors like this exists?

Talk:Jack_Antonoff#Requested_Changes.

Wow. Do you think she's expensive? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

lol...well, she certainly seems to be experienced, and she understands the whole "we're all volunteers, make this easy for us" thing. There's been a similar paid editor at Bob McDonald (businessman) for years. We had to limit their requests, as the urge to polish became absurd. I finally just removed the section on board work as every time he went on or off a board, there was an edit request to update that section. Valereee (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

The Merchant of Venice

Hi,

Could I ask why you have vandalised the Merchant of Venice article and then protected it in its vandalised state?

Thanks,

Alex AlexAndrews (talk) 18:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@AlexAndrews, Wikipedia has a very specific definition of vandalism which is editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge. You can find more information at WP:vandalism.
You have edit-warred to insist upon the addition of content for which you have not been able to get consensus, and you have been casting aspersions on highly-experienced and long-trusted editors who have been pretty darn patient with you while you've done that. Despite the fact several of them have tried to explain the applicable policies to you multiple times, you are apparently unable to or unwilling to understand those policies. This is not serving you well. Valereee (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
@Valereee, to quote your reply:

... editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia ...

The purpose of an encyclopedia is to provide facts that are informative and educational. The content I have added is not only factual but informative and educational. That informative and educational material has then been deliberately removed (repeatedly), thereby obstructing the project's purpose. Ergo, according to the definition you have quoted that is vandalism. You and the other editors on the article have vandalised it by removing the informative and educational factual material I have added.
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I should like to know why?
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My guess is that there is a chronic case of Groupthink where the article is concerned:

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome ... The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup").

The repeated removal of my informative and educational factual material from the article is wholly irrational given the stated purpose of Wikipedia.
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So again I ask: why have you vandalised the Merchant of Venice article? Is it because the consensus of the editors on the article is the irrational decision to vandalise it? AlexAndrews (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
@AlexAndrews, I did not vandalize the article. I protected it from someone who doesn't understand Wikipedia but thinks they do, and because of that is editing disruptively. But you're certainly free to report me to WP:AIV if you think I'm a vandal or to WP:XRV if you believe my admin action needs scrutiny. Valereee (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
As I clearly explained, you did vandalise the article given the stated purpose of Wikipedia that you yourself quoted. You are contradicting yourself and trying to explain away your irrational decision-making by falsely accusing me of editing disruptively (which is, in fact, what the other editors are doing) which I believe is called casting aspersions.
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So that is first vandalism, then denial of that vandalism through its false rationalisation, and now casting aspersions.
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All perfectly in line with Groupthink. AlexAndrews (talk) 05:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) AlexAndrews, you have been pointed to the explanation on WP:VANDALISM. You need to never bring it up again in contexts that don't apply or you risk being blocked for a lack of civility or of competence. The same applies to accusations of co-ordinated editing, irrationality, inconsistency, aspersions, groupthink and whatever other terminologies you have been throwing around in attacking and trying to discredit other editors. You're being given some leeway because you're new but you should expect people's patience to run out soon. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Encyclopedic content is non-contentious material that is informative and educational.

The additions I have made to the article are non-contentious material that is informative and educational; in other words, encyclopedic content.

Yet that encyclopedic content I have added has been repeatedly removed - that is the definition of vandalism:

... editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia ...

So please don't falsely accuse me of using the term incorrectly, otherwise you risk being blocked for casting aspersions. AlexAndrews (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)