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Hi Kenchikuben! That's great work you did on Kenzo Tange, finally a real article is emerging. I was a bit lacking time so I only had a very quick read. I think with a few tiny corrections would become a clear B on the quality scale. Two issues are most apparent: first, the structure needs to be clearer as currently his work is presented in three consectutive chronologic sections (i.e. Biography, Notable Buildings and Selected Projects). I think this needs to be simplified probably by integrating the "Notable buildings" into the biography. Second, his later career and legacy are slightly underrepresented: the Tokyo City Hall complex for instance is a major iconic project which chould get a bit more emphasis; that his son is also an architect who now leads his father's company and completed some of Kenzo Tange's designs after his death is notable at least from a biographic point of view; and while his major influence on 20th century Japanese architecture is mentioned in the text, I think is worth further emphasising in the legacy section. It would be great to see this article follow the path of Antonin Raymond :).
In any case I strongly encourage you to nominate it within the next days for the DYK section of the main page, as the article has been expanded more than 5x. If you need any assisstance I am happy to help. --Elekhh (talk) 01:45, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On June 24, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kenzo Tange, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Is great to see significant progress on this topic! I left a few comments at the Kenzo Tange peer review, but I don't think you'll have problems getting the GA status. The Athens Charter is an article now! I think the influence section could be further expanded, and probably place Europe in one section, as its influence expanded over the whole continent, not only France and UK (notably including also Germany, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia). The criticism section is not yet fluid, and could have a bit more about the postmodern movement (however I know postmodernism is also poorly covered on Wiki, see The Architecture of the City). Regarding Antonin Raymond, I think you certainly should get a peer review before nominating it for FAC, as the FA review is extremely meticulous. For comparison see the recently promoted I.M. Pei. Finally, if you have time to provide feedback on this proposal would be appreciated. --Elekhh (talk) 04:55, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Elekhh, I'll do some more resource digging for Europe. The I.M. Pei article is very thorough, I think I'll work slowly towards that one! I'll also have a think about the structure of Tange as per your comments. I've added my support to the proposal on you talk page. I think it will be a very useful tool. Kenchikuben (talk) 06:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On 9 October 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Togo Murano, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
The article Kenzo Tange you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Kenzo Tange for things which need to be addressed. Jappalang (talk) 14:00, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to your article and topic improvements it climbed this month into the top 1000 architecture articles. Good work. --Elekhh (talk) 23:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations to the recent promotion of Kenzo Tange as GA! Your contributions to articles on modernism and modern Japan architecture are much valued. As once you expressed an interest to contribute to the most read articles: I found Japanese architecture (17,500 views/month) and Tadao Ando (16,500) are both in big need of improvement and might be within your field of interest. --Elekhh (talk) 12:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kenchikuben, great to see you back! You are right that there is no FOP in France and therefore is not possible to upload images of modern buildings from France to Commons, unless they are released by the copyright holder under a free license. The same policy applies on Wikipedia. However, a small concession has been made here, in that in exceptional circumstances, and under a number of conditions, it is possible to upload non-free images for illustrating articles, when such illustration is essential for understanding the subject of the article. This is based on US "Fair use" law, and is possible only on the English Wikipedia which has its servers in the US (i.e. still illegal in France, but cannot be prosecuted in the US). This however is kept to a minimum -usually one key image per article- as it contravenes Wikimedia's commitment for promoting free content only. This conflict between the educational and free-source commitments of Wikimedia is highly problematic when illustrating 20th century architecture from countries which do not have FOP, including France, Italy and Russia. There has been a lot of debate on Commons about this issue, and it may be also discussed at the upcoming Wikimania Conference. --Elekhh (talk) 21:51, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again, I just noticed that there are articles about La Ville Radieuse - the book, on the Slovak and Japanese Wikipedias. Do you think is worth having separate articles, or should there be redirect? --Elekhh (talk) 15:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tricky. I don't think the book is as well known as some of his other books, but I think a separate article in English could work. It might be that it would be just a stub or a start for now, but that might give another editor the opportunity to expand it. Let me know if you want me to put it on my to do list! Kenchikuben (talk) 12:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As a reader I tend to find stubs disappointing, so maybe the best way to link these all together is to simply create a redirect, and have a subsection on the book within the Ville Radieuse article. That would than justify adding the .sk and .jp interwikis there as well. --Elekhh (talk) 13:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for creating that article. I had been meaning to do so for quite some time, but never got around to it. It looks perfect. —Soap— 14:17, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It had been on my "to-do" list too for a while. I was eventually inspired after seeing it on the Simple English wikipedia.Kenchikuben (talk) 14:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Almost ready for DYK. Issue outstanding: [1]. Best, Mephtalk 18:52, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On 31 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Terunobu Fujimori, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the towers of architectTerunobu Fujimori's Lamune Onsen have pine trees planted on the apex of their roofs? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Hi, Kenchikuben. Urashimataro here. I have just finished, for the time being at least, working on the Buddhist and Shinto architecture series of articles, and I was thinking of adding a Shinto architecture section to the Japanese architecture article. I know that's your baby, so I would like to know if you mind if I do. I am also available and indeed would prefer a collaboration in any form you choose, including limiting myself to giving you a bulleted list of points I consider essential, if you so wish. (BTW, I have noticed with disbelief that the same article of Japanese Wikipedia doesn't have a section about shrine architecture either.)
In a sense, we would be opening a can of worms, because the necessary changes are many and profound: religious architecture, here as anywhere, is fundamental to an understanding of architecture. It's also a subject about which not much has been written in English, but I have plenty of books in Japanese. The good news is that much of the work has been already done in the articles Shinto architecture, Buddhist temples in Japan and Japanese Buddhist architecture.
Native Shinto architecture consists mainly of three pre-Buddhist shrine styles, so the section would have to go before that about Buddhist architecture. This last would also have to be modified to discuss cross-pollination between the two. Because these styles derive partly from that of pre-historic granaries and temporary shrines, the prehistory section would also have to be modified. The Edo period section would have to discuss the forcible division of Shinto and Buddhism, with its catastrophic consequences for religious architecture in Japan. This last is a subject I believe to be of capital importance, all the more so because it's never discussed. Finally, if you decide you prefer me to write those parts, I wouldn't mind having a native speaker check what I write. What do you think? - Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 05:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. I'd be more than happy if you want to contribute to the article especially considering the work you've put into Shinto and Buddhist architecture. I agree that religious architecture plays a major part in pre-Meiji era architecture and that it would be important to add content to a number of the periods, for example showing how the pre-historic building forms influenced temples like Ise and Izumo. As this is your field of expertise please feel free to write directly in the article. Now that I've bought Nishi and Hozumi's excellent book I'll try and add some info about Kabuki and Noh stages - but I won't get in your way!
I think we should aim to get the article to GA status. Would someone reviewing it have access to the non-English references? (Although I appreciate there is a distinct lack of English resources!!). Kenchikuben (talk) 19:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good. Let's do as you say: I do the religious stuff, you do the rest, with the possibility of interaction. About non-English references: that's a sticky point, but there is no question that Japanese references are way better than the English, which are mostly riddled with errors. And a true peer would have to read Japanese. I take it you don't read either. If you need help with some text, let me know.
Hi, it sure has been a long time ... I have started working on a revision of the article (for the time being it's here, feel free to look, add and subtract, but there isn't much there yet. Leave comments in the talk page), but I already have a problem. My additions will be substantial, and the article is already huge. Do you think we could break it in two? - Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 08:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I too am still alive (sorry I've been away). Could you put your work up again please as it's disappeared from the link? Kenchikuben (talk) 13:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back! You can simply check the edit history to see what was there. Bringing this article up to GA would be a great milestone for Architecture. I think you are very close and should not let yourself discouraged by the FA standard peer-review. --Elekhh (talk) 15:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Frank (Urashima Tarō) I think that you've added an impressive amount of information to the article. It's an interesting read and gives a much fuller picture of the topic. I think we should continue and assume that it stays as one article because it would be better to come to one place for the information. I guess the main challenge we have is integrating your contributions with the structure of the "time periods", is it a step too far to say that all of the pre-Meiji sections would be split by building type rather than era? Or should we keep it as it is and integrate the "evolution of style" info into the eras like your Shinbutsu bunri sub-section of the Meiji era? Kenchikuben (talk) 12:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Let's continue the discussion on my user page's here. I took the liberty to copy there what we have written here so far. Eleekh, if you read this, your opinion would be welcome there. Frank (Urashima Tarō) (talk) 07:00, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kenchikuben, nice to see this major article upgrade! Probably you know much more about this topic than I am, so my comments are mostly about readability. I think the lead could be a bit expanded to include some of a the key projects, urban visions, and maybe to make the point that most of the projects were never built, and most of the members (except Kikutake) later changed direction. The first section "Otterlo, 1959 and the Boston Bay Project" I would rather call something like "origins", and keep short. I imagine readers would also like to find some info about what happened after the 1970s "apotheosis". Probably a good way to test the prose is to nominate for GA. In terms of illustrations, I think at least a few illustrations of the grand urban visions are essential, and fair use should be fine. I am happy to upload if you can suggest which images available on the net are the most relevant. --ELEKHHT 06:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Elekhh, thanks again for taking the time to read through the article. As you now know my Lead Sections are always weak because I never want to give anything away! But you're right, I'll expand this section and be more generous in the ways you suggest! I have some information about the post 1970 era and I will try to summarise this. Thanks for the offer for the "fair use" uploads, you will find images of Marine City, Sky House, Tange's Tokyo Bay Plan and Tange's Boston Bay Project in these locations. Let's chat again once I've modified the article and before I nominate for GA. Kenchikuben (talk) 09:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just letting you know that I nominated the article for DYK. Please feel free to improve the blurb or suggest an alternative. From the images you suggested, Sky House might not qualify for fair use, as is possible to take free images (unless it can be proven that the particular image you linked to was influential), while Tange's Tokyo Bay Plan seems also problematic as it is not described to be of major importance in the article yet. I will proceed with the other two instead. --ELEKHHT 12:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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; see Talk:Antonin Raymond for eventual comments about the article. Well done! S Masters (talk) 04:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Kenzo Tange for things which need to be addressed. Jappalang (talk) 14:00, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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