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David Hu (IIG)

Could I please see a copy of David Hu (IIG). Davidgoodheart (talk) 15:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll email it to you, I'm not putting a negative BLP in userspace. WP:BLP1E explains the concept to start with, I can answer more questions if you have them. Courcelles (talk) 15:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Oh, wait, appears you don't have email enabled. Courcelles (talk) 15:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Your recent changes

Hi.Thank U for making the change I requested for the article Microsoft Office. Can U please remove the {{pp-pc1}} from line 2? Again, thanks in advance.197.26.153.57 (talk) 18:00, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

DoneM Courcelles (talk) 19:56, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Rollback

I saw your name on the Admins granting rollback and was wondering if you could grant me that permission to help stop vandalism on RC. Thanks, PalauanReich (talk) 00:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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DYK

Could you please nominate this page Paul (given name) for DYK. I have spend countless time expanding this. I also don't know how to use DYK. Davidgoodheart (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I haven't spent any significant time at DYK in literally a decade. I wouldn't be considered conversant in their rules anymore by any reasonable measure. Maybe ask at Wikipedia talk:Did you know? Courcelles (talk) 12:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Fontainebleaugrantleingang‎

Hi, I see that you blocked Fontainebleaugrantleingang‎ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for username violation. I wanted to mention that this same editor is apparently using several other accounts. They have the same username pattern and the exact same type of strange edits to articles about hotels in Las Vegas, all with the same edit summary. The other accounts are:

CodeTalker (talk) 14:56, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Cleaned the sock drawer. Thanks. Courcelles (talk) 15:13, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Longer block needed

This user went right back to edit warring, f y i. Two reverts in a half hour. SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

A WP:BRD reversion of an unsourced edit by you is not edit warring. Gugrak (talk) 18:41, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
You have learned nothing from your recent block. If we feel a source is missing, we ask for that, we don't revert twice in a half hour, no less with snotty comments like a discussion with yourself. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:48, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Both of you, discuss. Find the talk page, find a WP:3O, something rather than the revert button. Courcelles (talk) 20:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
I always discuss and use talk pages. Very sad that an admin would tell me off too, rather than seeing habitual edit warring on the part of the user recently blocked for edit warring by that same admin. Very sad. Gives free license to go on edit warring. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:10, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Look at the timeline. You made a proposal, no comments were made so you enacted your own proposal after a few days. No issues there. The problem is then you were reverted, and instead of discussing, you simply reverted. At that point your edit had been challenged, so bringing up the history of the person you were disagreeing with is not the way forward. Courcelles (talk) 14:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
"please see and use the talk page to discuss this further" is not what I'd call simply reverting, but you are the boss. It's your prerogative to let someone off the hook who did not see and use the talk page to discuss this further but rather reverted twice in a half hour after recently having been blocked for that by you. I thought you'd care, or I wouldn't have bothered you. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Are you interested in that user's continued very speedy use of revert without visiting a talk page? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Edit war on Reichstag building

Hey, I have seen you fully protected the Raising a Flag over the Reichstag article because there is a dispute on the content of a photo. But in the Reichstag building article, this editorial war is still ongoing. Please fully protect this one too. If I found any related editorial war on the content of that photo on any article, I'll let you know so you can fully protected it. Best regards, SeanTVT (talk) 14:38, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm asking you not to make any more reverts on this matter as well. But I did issue one block for edit warring combined with personal attacks. Courcelles (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Dilbaggg

This user has defended themselves about their edit warring by repeatedly accusing me and two other users of meatpuppeting. I'm not one to question admin actions, but is 36 hours a long enough block if we factor that in? LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 11:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, block lengths are as much a matter of art as anything. It was longer than their last edit warring block, which was in 2020. Blocks, not being punitive makes me say this; if the editor comes back and repeats the behavior, it wasn't long enough and I can block them again. If they come back and engage in collegial editing without revert warring, it was exactly long enough. Either way, we end up with an answer on Thursday. Courcelles (talk) 12:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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Why did you name yourself after a municipality in Belgium?

I'm just curious. CodemWiki (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

LOL. I actually picked it not from Belgium. My place in Paris was on Line 2, two stops from Etoille. No longer being my residence, but somewhere I enjoyed living greatly, it seemed reasonable enough. Courcelles (talk) 16:29, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Australia article

Hello there I request that you change the article back to the stable version which is the one last edited by Materialsscientist here. The repeated attempt by one editor to include a definite number of Indigenous languages in the info box does not have consensus, is contradicted by the information in the main body of the article and is contradicted by other sources which I have included on the Talk page. I think we should revert to the stable version until a consensus is reached on the Talk page. Thanks. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 12:47, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

We really don’t pick a version to protect unless there’s something utterly unacceptable on the version we happen to find. [21]. Courcelles (talk) 12:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Australia Languages Misinformation

there is a guy that keeps putting like 200 native languages in the Australia info box and it’s incorrect and outdated plus it doesn’t belong to the info box. please fix it thank you Michael Reinolds (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

See above. We don’t really have a lot of choice between non vandalized versions when protecting. Courcelles (talk) 20:55, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
i understand that, but wouldn’t it be possible for the references that he added to be removed? everyone on the talk page says the same Michael Reinolds (talk) 21:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
I dropped it back to EC to allow edits to be made, since the talk page appears to have a rough consensus. Courcelles (talk) 21:42, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
ok Michael Reinolds (talk) 21:42, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

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User 2nd 2nd Mugistan

2nd 2nd Mugistan Was recently blocked from editing for socking. They can still edit their own talkpage, where they are repeatedly spouting hateful language. Can they be blocked from editing the talk page in the same manner as the puppet master 2nd Mugistan? IceBergYYC (talk) 16:25, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. Courcelles (talk) 16:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you IceBergYYC (talk) 16:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, the article lacks some important events for its NPOV. Can I write you here and you add (after your consideration/edit)? Thank you. Lilijuros (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

You can try the talk page? Courcelles (talk) 16:03, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Tried. Can you do this? Lilijuros (talk) 07:01, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
No. I am not getting involved in this topic as an editor. Courcelles (talk) 12:39, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Australia protection duration

Hi, I saw that you put Australia under ECP due to edit warring, which seems like a good move, but I'm wondering if it was necessary to impose it indefinitely, rather than, say, a week or so? It looks like the edit war around languages, vigorous as it was, had only been going on for less than 24 hours. Colin M (talk) 16:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

It was "indef" only in the sense that there's no way to automatically restore the semi, and I didn't want it to fall back all the way to unprotected. I'll send it back to semi now. Courcelles (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Ah, got it, I wasn't aware of that limitation. Thanks for clarifying! Colin M (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, it's kind of a stupid thing, but if you raise a protection (to ECP or full), the system loses the underlying semi when it expires. On a high-profile target like this, that's not a desirable outcome. Something like "ECP for a week, semi indef" has been asked for before but never coded into the software. Courcelles (talk) 17:47, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot for semi protecting Prodigy Education! It's been facing some severe disruption from a bunch of IP's. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 13:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Couldn’t find a beneficial and proportional range block, so this was the fallback plan. Courcelles (talk) 13:08, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Yeah. I expected to find a lot of vandalism on that page anyway because it's about an educational game that is commonly used in schools.... and thus might attract some school IP's. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 13:21, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

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For probably the most thoughtful close I've ever seen. Pure excellence. Curbon7 (talk) 13:42, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
I appreciate it! At the core, "merge and delete" is not an allowable action under the CC-BY-SA, and the merge had already been done. That said, if this came back under a different title, I'd consider G4 to apply and be willing to delete it (noting one of the AFD's was under a different title years ago.) Courcelles (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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Anonymous resumed the edit war and vandalism after leaving the block

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.



As I predicted, after the end of the blocking, the anonymous person resumed deleting information with renewed vigor and with a monotonous repetition of his actually only argument about the alleged lack of connection between the discussion of decisions during the localization of the show and the show itself. It is obvious that this was vandalism and the anonymous person, as before, is not going to discuss anything. But I'm not even going to delete it again, because last time you made it clear to me that the removal of systematic vandalism is an edit war and is punishable. Even despite the removal of information from sources and the general surrealism of the situation (anonymous insists that the situation is not related to the show, although all sources mention this only in the context of the show). Not to mention that the requester most likely complained about an "edit war" due to a conflict of interest and interest in removing this information. Thank you. Solaire the knight (talk) 11:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Still not vandalism. Likely even a valid removal per UNDUE. Continuing to say it doesn’t make you right. Courcelles (talk) 13:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't it even bother you that he continued the edit war after being blocked for it? Having an up-to-date warning on the talk page? That is, now blocking and warnings, even blocking, do not matter, the main thing is who was the last to cancel?! Okay, let's "play by your rules". If I now undo his edit, will it be a violation of the rules? I literally predict that he will undo edits again, up to the next block. You don't care at all? Or do you want me to cancel each time until he breaks the three-time cancellation rule, and then wait for him to block then again every time they come out of the block? Considering that the anonymous person is obviously not going to discuss anything and will do it forever, this is a vicious circle. Which, however, only exists if one takes his edits seriously. Solaire the knight (talk) 14:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Or you could start an RFC and get a consensus this material belongs from the wider community. You’re crying vandalism, but not making any case for the reinsertions you made as to why this material isn’t a COATRACK in this particular article. Courcelles (talk) 15:11, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
He will not write or discuss anything there, he will just continue the edit war. Well, or completely ignore the discussion if the article remains on his version. Just look at how he completely ignored my warning or your message about blocking and just continued to delete the text without any reaction (In fact, I already added a source to the article that covered the topic in much detail and connected these two issues much better, but it was removed because users recognized it as non-authoritative, because it contradicted their political views. Another irony). As for the arguments, if you stopped defending the vandal for a second and looked at the source, then you would know that the situation with this anime is being used as complaints about representation in the casting, because a number of VAs, including, believe that the show could not take a variety of casts for the role of characters due to a number of very unfortunate decisions of the licensor. Moreover, you continue to ignore the fact that the anonymous one monotonously deletes it without any arguments and, judging by the history of edits and bans of other addresses, it does this because of a political conflict of interest. Anyway, I already explained the situation to you. And I want to repeat my question, would my undoing their edit be a violation of the rules? I have no other options, because the anonymous person will either ignore the discussion or continue the edit war. Or most likely both. Only if you do not offer me to uselessly waste my time creating a meaningless topic in which no one will participate only in order to prove to you a few days later that the anonymous person is not agreeable. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Due to your blocking and subsequent disputes, I even forgot that the necessary section was created by ME on the article's talk page a few months ago. At the time when the section was discussed even with its original author. Of course, anonymous successfully ignored him. But if you like wasting my time so much, then I created another one, only to once again show that anonymous is not negotiable and will wage edit wars endlessly. By the way, while I was creating it, another user had already canceled it. I bet the anonymous person will continue again and not even look at the thread. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:43, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi @Courcelles Could you take a look here and here and here [27]. Solaire is really starting to be overtly WP:UNCIVIL and some administrative action might be warranted. Best, CandyScythe (talk) 15:42, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Oh, as soon as I created a section to demonstrate that the anon will ignore any discussion and continue the edit wars again, you started complaining about me again. If you really want to convince me that you're not covering him up because you want to save his edits, then you've clearly not chosen the best tactic. However, you have a literal conflict with me, which you are well aware of. What did you expect from me? Solaire the knight (talk) 15:45, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
I have notified you that I view your behavior as targeted harassment. In this case, I will ask the administrators to stop any contact between us and from now on I will ignore any of your comments to me. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:51, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Change to the Checkuser team

Following a request to the Committee, the CheckUser permissions of Courcelles (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) have been restored. For the Arbitration Committee, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Henrysemple

Please revoke TPA for Henrysemple, whom you blocked. Thanks. Firestar464 (talk) 17:39, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. Courcelles (talk) 17:59, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For blocking the editor that trouted me 40,000 times. What a waste of perfectly good trout.

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Thanks, and, yes, that trout would be better fed to my cats! Courcelles (talk) 23:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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Protection level for Charles III

Hello Courcelles. I'm requesting the protection level for Charles III to be reduced from 30/500 protection to 4/10 protection. Per WP:RFUP, "[b]efore posting, first discuss with the protecting admin at their talk page". I understand that the page had just been vandalised, but that was because it was the day of his coronation; things have cooled down since then. Cheers, Tim O'Doherty (talk) 16:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 16:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
The coronation was full of mess-making accounts. Think we can try regular semi now. Courcelles (talk) 16:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

FoXX4961

You had blocked them as Mosart.fr; they have changed username and talked about what edits they would make. Can you take a look? Daniel Case (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Reblocks are cheap. Let them try. Courcelles (talk) 12:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

New creation - you might like to see how similar it is to the previous one you deleted. The creating editor has a rather similar editing history (10 minor edits and a full scale article). PamD 17:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Cleaned the sock drawer. Thanks. Courcelles (talk) 17:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Three socks and a few drafts removed. Courcelles (talk) 17:56, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Courcelles, none of the accounts is autoconfirmed. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:07, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Twinkle misclick… but I think I’m good with it. Some are old enough to get autoconfirmed with a few edits. Courcelles (talk) 23:48, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Stubbing clarification

Hello Courcelles. I'm hoping to get something clarified about my topic ban please. Am I still allowed to remove old posts from my Talk page? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:33, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Unlike some of the other actions you are restricted from, stubbing is something that, by definition, can only be done to content pages. Archiving/managing your own talk page is an entirely different matter. Courcelles (talk) 11:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For speedily dealing with a transphobic troll and protecting my page - thank you! TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 21:49, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Anytime. We do not need trolls at AN, ever. Courcelles (talk) 22:00, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Follow-up re. Meeraa chopraa

Hi! I saw that you blocked the user Meeraa chopraa following my report at UUA. First, a quick thanks for your work! I have a question regarding this block. I also reported this user for an unrelated issue at AIV, and this report was subsequently removed by the helperbot. I'm not sure anyone saw the report at AIV; my concern was that the user in question has been editing in blatant violation of WP:COI, and (in my opinion) their comments indicate that they have no intention of familiarising themselves with relevant policies. What do you think? Thanks! Actualcpscm (talk) 10:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, the bot removed it because we can’t block that account twice. At this point, they’ll have either do the verification VTRS lays out, and be unblocked, or not. Nothing else to do. Courcelles (talk) 11:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Of course they can't be double-blocked, but I thought a hard block from AIV would have some kind of precedence over a precautionary soft block. Or not? I imagine this is not a very common situation :) Actualcpscm (talk) 11:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
(Was just explaining why the bot did what it did. Yeah, it’s unlikely a human admin saw the AIV report I didn’t) Well, two possibilities. Either they are Ms. Chopra and just completely unfamiliar with WP. Or they’re not, and the soft block stops the impersonation. Either way, the edits were not vandalism, so that sort of block would be unnecessarily antagonistic in case they are who they say they are. Courcelles (talk) 11:14, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Fair enough, thanks! Have a good day. Actualcpscm (talk) 11:53, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Another sockpuppet in hiding

Hello!

Thank you for executing a block on the sockpuppet "Sem Lula" and the anonymous IP user "182.228.179.211". There seems to be a third account to which this person is linked.

In a preceding discussion, two people were referred to as "militant women". Then "Sem Lula" made clear that she was one of these people. None of them is yet blocked. They are "Dinoz1" and "Ertrinken".

In order to get to the bottom of this abuse and root out the problem, we should put a block on the main user behind all of this. Otherwise that person might continue their suspect activities. Trakking (talk) 11:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

No. The LTA who started that thread has a history of lobbing grenades into ANI with new socks. Nothing they say should be taken seriously. Courcelles (talk) 11:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
I don't relate to those IP and accounts. To be clear, yesterday I've opened and incident against user Gondolabúrguer, wich has a consolidated history of crosswiki abuse. Ertrinken (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
@Courcelles: Today I was vandalized again and had my legitimate edits reverted by an anonymous troll using the same extremist phrase "sai minion" as the previous troll you blocked. Trakking (talk) 11:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Blocked for 60 hours. Courcelles (talk) 12:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Russian SFSR

Since what I recently edited [32][33] Vladimir Vysotsky with Russian SFSR to infobox, then someone removed it, every Russian person has an infobox with "Russian SFSR" without redundancy per |birth_place = parameter. In this recent case as a result for edit warring on Vladimir Putin article, [34][35][36] as per discussion from the talk page and ANI notice. Should we enforce these restrictions per WP:GS/RUSUKR and WP:TBAN? 112.204.206.165 (talk) 03:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Vysotsky died in 1980, so he has nothing to do with the general sanctions. And who is topic banned? What are you even asking be done? Courcelles (talk) 10:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
See User talk:Mike Novikoff#Unsolicited advice, as posted by Firefangledfeathers, so if this user had tried to warn them, next time you revert it I'll report you to WP:ANI, the case will be indisputable. But also for example, Russia-related topics with "Russian SFSR" is needed for the infobox in biography and historical events, including Vladimir Lenin, 1980 Summer Olympics, Battle of Stalingrad, and so on. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 12:17, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Okay why is this here? (As in, on my talk page?) Courcelles (talk) 12:36, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
I was pinged, but I'm not involved and don't care to become so. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Neither am I... hence my great confusion! Courcelles (talk) 13:11, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

What account or accounts did the user sock with?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:08, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

WikipediaWarrior01, TheWarriorOfWikiiz, User101FrOas… and it all traces back to Javalsta which means this is MasterofRoblox anyway. Courcelles (talk) 22:14, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
My.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
What a catch Courcelles! What tipped you off? -- Ponyobons mots 22:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Some stranger from BC, I think… ;) Courcelles (talk) 22:40, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Teamwork makes the dream work.-- Ponyobons mots 22:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Charles III protection

Hi Courcelles! I noticed you changed the protection level at Charles III with summary "dropping to semi", but the actual change made was to drop move protection from sysop to ECP, with editing protection unchanged. Misclick? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 19:08, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_III&diff=prev&oldid=1156387788 I changed editing to semi and moving to ECP. Not sure if we need sysop move protection or not, but I think I got the editing protection exactly where it needs to be. Courcelles (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
And if you think we need sysop move protection, please feel free to put it back. Courcelles (talk) 19:39, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Huh, guess I misread that! I was confused because it was showing up as "recently extendedconfirmed-protected", but I guess that's because of the downgrade on move prot. Sorry for the confusion. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 19:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

MenuRax39272

Hey Courcelles. MenuRax39272 looks like a dead ringer for User101FrOas. Worth another sweep? -- ferret (talk) 23:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Yep. Blocked and tagged. Courcelles (talk) 23:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Got three more sleepers and tagged everyone. Courcelles (talk) 00:12, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
For a fun follow up, MenuRax39272 joined Discord to complain to me about this "incorrect" block and that I brought it to your attention. They did so under the Discord account "Javalsta" :P -- ferret (talk) 12:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
ROFL… they’re socking everywhere. Courcelles (talk) 13:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Looks like there's another one: Special:Contributions/JaioLang. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Confirmed and tagged. No new sleepers, though. Courcelles (talk) 20:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

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  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
  • As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

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Arbitration

  • The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

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Wikidata weekly summary #579

Ruach Chayim

Should not their other account, HoneymoonAve27, be blocked too? They have accepted on srwiki they are the same person, and their editing on enwiki too shows obvious similarities. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

I saw Ruach Chayim claiming to be Honeymoon, but nothing from Honeymoon indicating such. I'm not sure I trust the word of a troll to confirm sockpuppetry when I can't confirm the same through checkuser. Do we have anything more definitive? Courcelles (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Agreed, one can't rely just on RC's words. However, behavioral evidence is strong IMO. Among other things:
  • HA27 proposed to split the Netflix article into Netflix Inc and Netflix [41]. RC did the same thing [42].
  • HA27 made that edit [43]. RC edit warred to readd that edit and got blocked for that [44]
  • HA27 had the habit to write "fix" in the edit summary (some examples [45][46][47][48]). So did RC (some examples [49][50][51][52]). In many cases what they are "fixing" is adding the now-deleted "Kosovo template" to next to every mention of Kosovo
  • HA27 removed Albanian names from the Balsic article [53]. So did RC [54]. Note how for both the justification in the edit summary is "no need"
  • Both removed stuff they did not like from articles with the justification "no need" in the edit summary. Many such examples as [55][56][57][58][59][60][61]
  • HA27 added that [62] and RC edit warred to keep it in the article [63][64][65]
I can cite more similarities if need be, but IMO these are enough. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:00, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Over on the Serbian wikipedia they submitted a request to have their user rights transferred to this account [66] and were apparently able to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the Serbian wiki admins that both accounts were controlled by the same person [67]. I expect the evidence is in the revision deleted history of the first account's talk page [68], which was deleted to protect their privacy [69].
Behaviourally there's also this thread on their talk page, where the new account is warned to avoid getting involved in the same problems their last account was getting involved with [70]. I don't think it's too likely that someone impersonating an established account would mimic drama that would risk getting the account blocked.
I do find it funny that on srwiki they seem to be telling everyone who'll listen what their previous account was, but when asked on this project who they are they evaded the question [71] then got offended and demanded an apology [72]. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 18:02, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Now that was a convincing case. Blocked. Courcelles (talk) 18:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I had been trying for some time to figure out their previous account, but only the IP user made the connection. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:11, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
I guess my first response was too jaded... I've seen entirely too many socks show up and claim to be a more experienced editor to take such statements at face value without deeper analysis or a reciprocal declaration. Thanks to you both for providing that. Courcelles (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Afd ?

Hi Courcelles. I was just going through to see how the AfD backlog got down so quickly and I came across Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suryapet Junction. Given that the only keep vote is from someone not topic banned from deletion, it seems to me that maybe there's a draftify and/or soft delete consensus? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

I was aware of Jack’s topic ban, but A) the AFD is so old the comment was not a violation, so I’m not sure we can discount it and soft delete purely on the later topic ban, and B) the two other commenter’s arguments are not the strongest reasoning I’ve ever seen. Courcelles (talk) 00:56, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hiya!

Would you mind revisiting this? I think we mistook a good faith misunderstanding of WP:RS and WP:NOR with WP:HOAX. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 18:59, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@Jpgordon Can you verify anything they’re saying? Because this blew all my AGF when I was trying to investigate if they were legitimate or trolling us. If you can see enough to feel like they’re working legitimately, go ahead and unblock. Courcelles (talk) 19:37, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Agreed, that stupid piece of nonsense hurt his appeal pretty badly. I've reduced his block to mainspace only and suggested he prove himself in his user space. Thanks. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 21:35, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Tendentious IP at Ramen

Howdy! There's lots of WP:RGW activity going on here from an IP who targets random articles for "Chinophilia", with no sources and no talk page usage. Do you mind taking a look? Thanks. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

3 months without that IP should help. Let me know if they change IPs and I’ll drop some protections. Courcelles (talk) 00:24, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I see you deleted Mark Curry (rapper). He had a No. 13 hit with Bad Boy for Life, thereby satisfying WP:MUSICBIO#C2. Please restore to User:Launchballer/Mark Curry (rapper). Launchballer 11:25, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

@Launchballer As far as I’m aware, userifying isn’t really a thing now that we have Draftspace. So I’ve moved the entire history to Draft:Mark Curry (rapper). Courcelles (talk) 13:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Sacred Name Movement

You inserted a warning about sock puppetry for the article "Sacred Name Movement". I've not been watching an article that became marked in this way before, so I don't know the protocol. Thought it would be logical to name at least one of the accounts you thought was socking. My first time, so I'm only asking about this. Pete unseth (talk) 14:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Look through the history. I count six accounts blocked for being socks. Wikipedia:Deny recognition, as to not calling out the sockmaster in the protection log. Courcelles (talk) 15:05, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
I have not yet learned how to spot such. Thanks for helpful reply. Pete unseth (talk) 17:12, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Special:Contributions/Church of Christ (Temple Lot) Independence, Missouri QUORUM OF THE TWELVE. This is just one of the endless stream of socks that have been hitting both that page and the content area. Courcelles (talk) 17:15, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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IP block exemption request for my alternate account

Hello, I plan to be travelling a lot this summer, which will at times involve the use of VPNs or anonymous proxies to avoid local blocks of content. According to WP:IPECPROXY, I should be able to get IPBE for this reason. I would like it on my alternate account, User:Asheiouy, which is the account I will be using to travel with. If you need any information from me, please let me know.

Please @ ping me as I often lose conversations. > Asheiou (they/them • talk) 21:18, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

@Ponyo, you might have handled something like this more recently than I have? Do you have any thoughts? Courcelles (talk) 23:07, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, the policy has loosened up quite a bit whilst you were on your sabbatical. You can set it for a specific amount of time now as well. How long will you be travelling Asheiou?-- Ponyobons mots 23:11, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
@Ponyo I'll be popping in and out of my home country until the end of September. I don't see myself needing it after that point for a good while > Asheiou (they/them • talk) 23:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
(So expiring Oct 1 would be perfect, I am flying back home for the last time on Sep 30) > Asheiou (they/them • talk) 23:19, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Ok, you should be good to go (literally and figuratively).-- Ponyobons mots 23:29, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Knew you’d know what was up. Courcelles (talk) 23:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your help :) > Asheiou (they/them • talk) 23:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

UT Bethsheba Ashe mention

Good <morning/afternoon/evening> Courcelles. I got the notification that you mentioned me on BA's page but of course their silliness has been revdel'd so I can't actually see whatever it was. Was it anything that needed attention like a mistake I made or something I should have done differently? -Thanks for your time, GabberFlasted (talk) 16:41, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Nope. Just me basically saying I was deleting that self-promo user page they had. Courcelles (talk) 16:44, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Update to the SP/SM situation. Please check your filtered emails.

Hello Courcelles. Last week, I emailed you updates to the SP/SM situation with more ongoing evidence but my guess is they may have been filtered to spam or a similar category. Please check those and pass them on to the functionaries. Thank you. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 20:10, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

I’ve sent everything up to functionaries-en. Courcelles (talk) 22:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #580

Thank you

For this, I was recently informed that I can not use the template anymore because I am not an admin... - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:12, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Hmm… not aware of the background on why you were told that, but the bot is quirky enough that “nothing left to do here” requests sit around a good bit. Courcelles (talk) 22:16, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I know, that is why I have generally tried to do my best as a useless non-admin to clear the backlog when possible... lol - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
P.S. I just happened to notice this, just to make us both feel old... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:02, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Wikihistory, wow. Just for the record, I need little help feeling old these days! Courcelles (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I merely mentioned you, but I’m not 100% sure if I need to do this, but I’m just doing so to protect myself, and for your information, of course. It’s in regards to an issue involving my protection requests. Fork99 (talk) 20:22, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

You're a coward

Just admit you only protected those pages due to some perceived threat to protect their honor. I'm just telling you, those pages did not meet any criteria to jump protection and there wasn't any mass coordinated disruption. You're a coward who is only on here to spread your far-right worldview of pointing out every hypothetical Jew with a blue badge of dishonor. 77.247.90.25 (talk) 15:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Me? Far right? ROFL. Courcelles (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #582

A beer for you!

Here's to cowardice! SPECIFICO talk 17:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I did find it funny to be called a coward without them saying what pissed them off. Courcelles (talk) 18:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Blocked user

Hi - I think you recently blocked User:CptJohnMiller as a sock of User:Militaryfactchecker. You might want to take a look at User:Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves Britons never, never, never shall be slaves who is apparently a new editor but has a very similar edit pattern and does not hesitate to make offensive comments. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 23:35, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Confirmed and blocked. Courcelles (talk) 23:41, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Reducing the protection level for 'List of active Russian Navy ships'

Hi! You increased the protection level for the 'List of active Russian Navy ships' page on 25 May 2023. In my opinion, I think this protection level should be reduced, as now the edit activity on this page has decreased substantially. Due to the topic's relatively niche nature, many relevant sources will only present on Russian-language sites, without which the page would be updated much less frequently. Since the protection level has increased, myself along with other regular editors of the page, can no longer update the page based on these sources. For example, over the past month, two new vessels have been laid down for the Russian Navy, and another is expected to be commissioned imminently. Despite me putting in a request on the Talk Page (with sources included), there have been virtually no updates to the page since the protection level increase was implemented, aside from a few minor updates to references. Thanks. IvtI 09 (talk) 15:05, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

We can try semi… but non Wikipedia:Extended confirmed editors can’t edit anything about the ongoing war, per Wikipedia:General sanctions/Russo-Ukrainian War. Courcelles (talk) 15:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

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TP access

You and ToBeFree recently rangeblocked this IP. Could we please revoke TPA access, if possible? Thanks in advance. Add: See User talk:2600:8807:A00:23:703E:BC2A:F771:8306. Amaury • 23:47, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Done. We need not tolerate this kind of abuse. Courcelles (talk) 23:57, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi Amaury and Courcelles, thank you both very much. Please let me/us know if this continues from other addresses. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Topic Ban

Ive appealed your ban, I think it was an unfair knee jerk reaction[94]. DarrellWinkler (talk) 16:30, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

Forgot to say thank you for sorting out the sock puppets I posted at ANI, so thank you, cheers. Govvy (talk) 15:08, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Happy to help! Courcelles (talk) 15:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)