Talk:The Game Awards 2018

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Question about esports[edit]

Seeing as though there are tons of new esport categories (seven in total), would anybody oppose making them into their own grouping? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It probably should. I think those are also more inclusive of fan-voting awards too. --Masem (t) 18:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the official awards list doesn't make any note if they are jury-voted or not (which last year's did, I think). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just separate them for now, separate from the audience ones, and then once its clear, we can re-arrange as necessary. --Masem (t) 18:43, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add the content creator award with that too then, but I think the esport game award should be kept with the actual game awards, at least for now. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question about developers being listed[edit]

Wouldn't it make more sense if we listed by publisher instead? Outside of the major AAA titles, these games sometimes have non-notable developers, but a notable publisher. It would also help with simplifying games within a publisher that was made by different internal studios, such as Ubisoft and Sony. The Game Awards also list the publisher alongside the developer, so us using this format is Wikipedia-specific. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been able to access TGA's site yet since the noms were named, but we should follow how they recognize the nominees. If they are doing both dev/pub, then we should too. --Masem (t) 19:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They list both. So should we just format it exactly as "developer/publisher" like they do? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:21, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Check the sports and multiplayer groups for how it would look. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:32, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think that's fair. --Masem (t) 19:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Standardizing the writing style as articles of the previous Game Awards[edit]

I mean for "Best Score/Music", as example, would be Celeste – music by Lena Raine or "Best Narrative" would be Detroit: Become Human – written by David Cage and so on. Previous years awards did not mention people too as I remember, yet we did, which I consider a really smart thing where possible. Note that where "developed by" is present, inevitably publishers would be omitted (I would not worry too much anyway). But honestly I am more for following our own style and coherence, even for reader's comfort in consulting The Game Awards articles year by year.

I would not even necessarily follow the order of the list on the website. Lone Internaut (talk) 09:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say the opposite, previous Game Awards should follow this new standard set by the discussions above. No reason to add "music by" when it's obvious that's what the person is being awarded for in that specific section. The site/announcement video also didn't list people for Best Narrative, meaning it would be more WP:OR by us to include them there. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:39, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This way articles would seem just a copy/paste of what is written on the website or on the news. I would not want to flow into OR and I think is what thought who organized previous GA articles. Hardly to say a new standard have been set. There are two users who see it the same way and one not - not completely - (myself). Considering the importance of this event, setting a standard would need a discussion with much more users participation.

Then, what stardard would be? It changes with the GA website. If next year they would start listing people (as game writers) what would we do? Changing the standard again? I mean if the standard is based on what is written on the website. I don't think this is easy. Lone Internaut (talk) 06:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We should just be following what the site/other publications are listing. For example, I'm pretty sure that they did used to list people for the best direction (or narrative) award, but they did not for this year's event, so it seems a bit odd to go against that. Perhaps TGA are trying to honor the entire writing staff instead of the lead person now? Note that the original announcement video (1:40) did mention the composers for the games in the music category, which is why I included them there. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:59, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To which end, let's see how the awards are presented when they are given out. Maybe for brevity of noms they omitted names, but we'll see. --Masem (t) 22:03, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Very possible. If the actual writer goes on stage to accept an award, I think that's more than enough reason to actually link them instead of the companies (for people-specific awards, like direction and narrative). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok guys, I'm with you. We'll find out. Lone Internaut (talk) 06:57, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

While we await for the thing above, should we occupy about a more imminent thing? The image in the infobox for example. Would be nice to put one into it. Searching I've found some nice ones, like this (directly from GA website), this (contains 2018 exclusive slogan "Worlds Will Change") or maybe this. I think I prefer the first one. What you guys think? Lone Internaut (talk) 07:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The first one works. At first, I thought that because it showed the date/URL, that it would be too promotional to serve as an ideal cover image, but then I saw how the Oscars do it without any issue. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:38, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in The Game Awards 2018[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of The Game Awards 2018's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "vg247":

From God of War (2018 video game): Nunneley, Stephanny (November 14, 2017). "The Game Awards 2017 GOTY nominees include: Wolfenstein 2, Horizon: Zero Dawn, PUBG, Zelda: Breath of the Wild, more". VG247. Archived from the original on April 13, 2018. Retrieved November 15, 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
From Epic Games: Nunneley, Stephany (November 9, 2012). "Epic judgment doubled, Silicon Knights ordered to pay over $9 million". VG247. Videogaming247. Archived from the original on August 8, 2016. Retrieved August 24, 2016. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
From The Game Awards 2017: Nunneley, Stephanny (November 14, 2017). "The Game Awards 2017 GOTY nominees include: Wolfenstein 2, Horizon: Zero Dawn, PUBG, Zelda: Breath of the Wild, more". VG247. Retrieved November 15, 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 21:54, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed this (it was a source from last year it was having a problem with). --Masem (t) 22:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ITN nom[edit]

I've nominated the article for the ITN for the first time in TGA's history. Let's see whether there's any willingness to post the winners to Wikipedia's main page. Feel free to join the discussion here Openlydialectic (talk) 07:13, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]