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User:Banana Republic reverted my removal of the stub stag. My removal followed my reassessment of the article as "start" using the rater tool, which I find to be a useful and impartial ways of rating articles.
I don't have a strong feeling about this, but did want to at least mention that my assessment was supported by the assessment tool, which I think is common way to assess articles on Wikipedia.
I doubt anyone would disagree that the article needs expansion, but that is not synonymous with being a stub. CT55555(talk) 14:53, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've never heard of the distinction between "start" and "stub". Is there an essay you could point me to? Banana Republic (talk) 15:33, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ASSESS is the relevant guideline. I find the examples part to be the most useful part. But honestly, rather than try to implement subjective criteria, I just use the rater tool and that way I feel confident I can say I assessed without favour or bias.
Normally, I think we don't template things once they get out of the stub range. I find the best two ways to get articles improved is to mention in discussions at WikiProjects WP:WOMRED or at WP:ARS. CT55555(talk) 15:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Judging by the examples listed at WP:ASSESS, it seems that this article is closer to a stub than a start. But as you pointed out, that's subjective. Regardless, I think it's a good idea to put the stub template in the article, or something else in the article, to encourage readers to add to the articles. Banana Republic (talk) 17:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
