Talk:Haitian crisis (2018–present)

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Name change[edit]

I changed back the name of the article to 2019 instead of 2018-2019 protest. Yes a protest started in 2018, but the prose of the article and its references seem to address only the 2019 part. If you disagree please discuss here.--MaoGo (talk) 15:38, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Now in addition to adding further information about 2018 (i.e. general strike in November [1]; tens of thousands demonstrating in October [2]) someone also will need to spend the time undoing this page move... May I suggest that next time you ask first before renaming a page you've never worked on? 🌿 SashiRolls t · c 18:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@SashiRolls: I understand, I am sorry. I was working on the rush of the newly created 2019 Latin American protests. As I understood from the information in the text, there was only a major protest on February July 2018. If you wish you may revert the title, nevertheless the text is still pretty focused on 2019.--MaoGo (talk) 19:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, no problem, sorry to have been a grump. (I think you mean Feb. 2019 above) You're right that the article as is doesn't trace the 2018 part of the story very well at all. Maybe someday. :) 🌿 SashiRolls t · c 19:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I meant July 2018.--MaoGo (talk) 19:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Maogo, any objection to moving it back now that the period July 7, 2018-Feb, 2019 is more amply covered? 🌿 SashiRolls t · c 02:38, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Be free to do that, I will check the text soon, but now the Nicaraguan protests has moved also to 2018-2019 so I think the main issue would be with 2019 Latin American protests and not with this article.--MaoGo (talk) 08:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection?[edit]

Shall we ask for page protection? The dynamic IP who has kept adding and removing the same text over and over can come here to make their case, if they want... -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 08:11, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SashiRolls: good idea. --ReyHahn (talk) 09:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that didn't turn out exactly as planned. Anyone is welcome to edit this page with solid sourcing. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 16:27, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I do have a few worries of biased editing or vandalism but if it's smooth sailing then we should leave it as it is Daisytheduck (talk) 10:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Name change to 2018- 2020 protests[edit]

The protests have re-ignited again in september and october this year. https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2020/10/18/haiti-protests-bullets-tear-gas/

https://www.wsls.com/news/world/2020/10/17/haitian-police-protesters-clash-president-calls-for-unity/

https://www.france24.com/en/20200914-haiti-capital-port-au-prince-brought-to-a-standstill-by-protesting-police

https://www.voanews.com/americas/haitian-protesters-clash-police-during-call-president-resign

If there is no opposition I may edit it in after some time. Seekallknowledge (talk) 13:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There were also protest in february and march 2020. That certainly makes it relevant enough to change the title. Seekallknowledge (talk) 18:43, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Page Redirected[edit]

Page is redirected. I am removing the ”merge” tag. Wikipedian India (talk) 13:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elimination of fuel subsidies & gangs blockading the fuel terminal[edit]

Does the elimination of fuel subsidies and gangs blockading the fuel terminal go here, or in a different article, or does it need a new article? "Haiti at breaking point as economy tanks and violence soars". Associated Press. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:35, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it it should be the first and the latter. It's defintely connected to the protests, but it is also shaping up to be it's own thing. No clue why there isn't more written on it already Genabab (talk) 07:09, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and added a section to this article for now. If it gets big enough we can spin it into its own article. If that happens, we should probably use {{Excerpt}}, as it is not good practice to write the same thing twice in two places (double the work). –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:03, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 June 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (closed by non-admin page mover) * Pppery * it has begun... 16:09, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2018–2023 Haitian crisis → Crisis in Haiti – There are no other articles (other than one apart of the overall crisis) that are called the "Haitian crisis" or "Crisis in Haiti". Even the Crisis in Venezuela has no specifying of names, despite the existence of the Venezuelan crisis of 1902–1903. Either "Crisis in Haiti" or "Haitian crisis" is fine- if the dates are not removed, then at least rename it to Haitian crisis (2018–present) or something similar, so that we don't need to update the years in the title constantly. Presidentofyes12 (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:52, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Haiti could have experienced several crises in its history. I would accept moving it to "2018-present". Maybe "Crisis in Venezuela" is badly titled. PatGallacher (talk) 22:42, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The Venezuelan article is badly titled. Srnec (talk) 20:32, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    How would moving it to Haitian crisis (2018–present) be? There wouldn't be any necessity to move the page to a new title every new year, along with the fact that there would be no implication that the crisis is over Presidentofyes12 (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Haiti's history is a succession of crises. The proposal seems to ignore Haitian history. The proposed name should point to a history of Haiti article -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 07:16, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 19 July 2023[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 14:36, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2018–2023 Haitian crisis → Haitian crisis (2018–present) – This is typically how ongoing events are titled on WP; the way the article is currently titled would suggest that the crisis ended sometime this year. This was mentioned in an earlier RM but never gained clear support/opposition. An anonymous username, not my real name 11:34, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. TheCorvetteZR1(The Garage) 22:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 23:06, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. In general, it's better for searching and indexing purposes to not have the dates at the beginning of article titles. Rreagan007 (talk) 22:18, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Violence directed towards women[edit]

I removed some unsourced material about a march in April 2021 because the source cited did not refer to it at all. If anyone runs across a good source on this question, please feel free to add the info back. In general, the 2021 sourcing needs to be checked (provided by a blocked/banned account).-- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 00:24, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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