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Guitar Hero: Tested and confirmed PS2 Singstar Mics work[edit]

As the title says really. (pbeesley1985 (talk) 13:27, 19 Decemeber 2008 (GMT))

Guitar Hero: World Tour instrument compatibility with Rock Band 2[edit]

The article says that the GH:WT instruments aren't compatible with RB2. You even have a source, but when I clicked the source, that article says the GH:WT incompatibility with RB2 is only confirmed on the Playstation 3. The Xbox 360 GH:WT instruments work fine with RB2, says the article. But I can't edit the page since it's semi protected (I'm already a member though, maybe not long enough?) (ZeppelinNL (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I am serious. A Harmonix Rep on the Rock Band forums confirmed it. You don't get more edirect than that. The WT instruments are not yet known for RB2, but we can pretty much assume the GHWT guitar will work, the drums are just the real unkown. --24.63.18.184 (talk) 00:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I was talking about the Wii instruments. All the other systems' instruments are compatable with each other.

the guitar hero is a game to learn the things of easy music but is a hard game if you play in de option of expert —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.167.59.189 (talk) 02:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wii Instrument Compatability[edit]

The GH3 guitar will work with RB2. A HMX rep said it on the RB forums. The WT instruments will probably work, but this is what we know so far. --24.63.18.184 (talk) 00:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Social[edit]

Is it REALLY in? It's already in Guitar Hero 3 as downloadable content. --66.130.30.245 (talk) 13:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The source is there. You'll note that WT also includes songs that have already been feature in GH: On Tour. -- TRTX T / C 13:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the gitar hero i a baddddddddddddddddddddddddd game better you play a gooooooooooood game like a rock band —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.167.59.189 (talk) 02:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mocap??[edit]

Should I put information about Ted Nugent & Ozzy doing mocap?? Estemshorn (talk) 00:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change the font[edit]

IS there a way to change the font for the singing in guitar hero four for the wii? its annoying i cant read the font. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.21.102.68 (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ADDED SATCH BOOGIE[edit]

There's no real reason that I can see as to why it isn't in the setlist, so I added it. It's been confirmed to be in the game, so therefor should be in the list. Thank you. --ZacLOL (talk) 01:08, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Get me a reliable source that says satch boogie is confirmed, and then it can be added. You don't just add songs without sources. Nothing that i've seen has proved Satch Boogie to be a track in the game yet. 71.149.162.76 (talk) 01:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Satch Boogie" has been reported by at least two sites that had multiple representatives invited to Neversoft to preview the game yesterday, and they've shown screenshots of the score screen with the song title on it. See a few entries above on this talk page.Dmwiki (talk) 01:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just report the websites, and it will probably be added. --Sw2493 (talk) 01:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the screenshot - http://media.coveritlive.com/media/image/200809/JRCPRcMHivsatch_boogie.jpg. That's from Scorehero's liveblog of the private preview at Neversoft. I can't dig up the link to the archived text of their liveblog, but a moderator at the GH Community forums was also at the event, and reported Satch Boogie, as well as Stranglehold in their liveblog at http://community.guitarhero.com/forums/55708/forum_topics/119869#forumposts-1534392. (And if this does get added, doublecheck the song count, think we might be off by one).Dmwiki (talk) 02:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hell yes that is a source! That was really interesting to read. I am a new user, so I can't post up the song, but can someone else with that ability do that? --Sw2493 (talk) 02:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Satch Boogie"[edit]

I see "Satch Boogie" was deleted again, because a "'random screenshot' on a forum is not a reliable source." I understand being wary of using forum gossip, but I think this should be considered much more solid than idle chatter. The screenshot is not something "random" that just popped up on a forum without any explanation or context. It comes from Scorehero's liveblog (http://www.scorehero.com/liveblog, click replay and scroll to the very end) of an event at Neversoft where prominent members of Scorehero and a few other sites were given the chance to preview the game and release some information with Neversoft's permission. The inclusion of "Satch Boogie" is corroborated by another liveblog from someone at the event (http://community.guitarhero.com/forums/55708/forum_topics/119869#forumposts-1534392, about four or five posts from the bottom). This doesn't seem any less reliable (and, to me, even more solid considering the in-game screenshot) than the sourcing for "Bullet with Butterfly Wings", which only comes from that early Stuff article and was conspicuously not mentioned in the press release announcing "Today" and the Pumpkins DLC. I won't stick it back in, but can we reconsider? Dmwiki (talk) 15:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is an example of one of the bigger problems that faces this article. Currently the setlist is a group of approx. 75 songs glued together from a series of reports, press releases and rumors. At this point, I would like to suggest a split on the setlist. Two tables. One with songs we got OFFICIALLY from Activision. Via press release or direct reports from official Activision events. The second table would be with songs from other sources, which have yet to be confirmed by Activision. A simliar split was performed on the "Upcoming Songs" in Rock Band DLC, which resulted in FAR fewer headaches and far less conflict amoung editors. -- TRTX T / C 15:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Full Setlist revealed.[edit]

Actually this might all be moot. Gamespot UK says Activision has released the full 86: http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6197604.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1. Reliable? Or wait a bit to see if more US sites pick it up? If this list is true, "Light My Fire," "In the End" and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" were incorrect. Guess that Stuff article wasn't such a reliable source. Dmwiki (talk) 15:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gamespot (uk or not) is reliable, so that technically is our list to work from. --MASEM 15:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. I've got time on my hands so I'll jump on it I guess. Dmwiki (talk) 16:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

← Some suggestions as you're editing this.

  • A similar situation occured with Rock Band 2. Songs were reported to be in the game, and later were not in the official setlist confirmed by HMX. What we did there was include previously reported songs in the original game article. See RB2 for examples.
  • Now that we have an official setlist, it's time to split off List of songs in Guitar Hero: World Tour. When you do this, instead of putting a reference by every song title, only include those song titles which are in this list, and have one reference at the beginning (see List of songs in Rock Band 2 for an example of this). This will produce far less clutter and reduce the number of references (we now have one SOLID reference to cite vs. a number of scattered references).

This should help trim some of the bulk off this article and help make the creation of the song list article that much easier on you. -- TRTX T / C 16:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

← OK, new article is created. Let's salvage the two or three references from the setlist that are used elsewhere in the article (cbc jimi, ign leipzig and something ozzy) and take that content out of this article. Dmwiki (talk) 17:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should we also add the DLC songs to the new article? Demoman87 (talk) 17:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Consider it done. Dmwiki (talk) 17:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IP Vandalism but Semi-protected?[edit]

What's with the recent IP vandalism? The page still has the semi-protected icon, but I can still edit the page when I'm not logged in. Dmwiki (talk) 02:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, it expired but the icon wasn't removed. Have requested an extension. Dmwiki (talk) 04:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mic in Music Studio[edit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3kYTa4EgtU Brian Bright says "One guy can grab the mic," at about 1:01 in the video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.54.185 (talk) 22:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They say that the Mic will OFFICIALLY not be in teh studio. But Brian Bright needs to be careful with his wording. It wasn'y very noticable. Maybe he's hinting at something...what does someone else think? --24.63.18.184 (talk) 02:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen an in-depth video on the Music Studio that clearly showed the Mic as an optional recording instrument. I'm guessing the actual voice is not recorded and it's converted into a melody track or something similar. SpinachPuffs (talk) 19:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.gamertagradio.com/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?p=55460 Mic is shown around the 1 min mark. Sadly he doesn't actually show the mic in action, but more or less everything else in the Studio is shown. It's the 360 version btw. SpinachPuffs (talk) 19:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Within the last couple of days I read that vocal tracks will be available for custom songs, but that they will be tracked to a keyboard (or whatever you choose, I suppose) part that can be sung along to during gameplay. I'm not sure where I read this exactly, but I believe it was an IGN article. Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk) 04:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Confirmed on G4TV's X-Play... You will create a "keyboard" track to make the melody that you sing in game play.

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/33541/Guitar_Hero_World_Tour_Music_Studio.html Armygurl10983 (talk) 05:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)armygurl10983[reply] 

good i'll add, if it's not already on there. Estemshorn (talk) 05:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

minor fix[edit]

in the game play section it says that the game evaluates you from 1 to 5 stars. while I cannot be 100% certain that it will remain true in this version in GH3 the worst score you could get was a 3. when you enter the no fail cheat even if you play no notes you get a 3 star rating. I would fix this myself, however my account is new and it will not let me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MasterSilve (talk • contribs) 10:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Free Guitar with Pre-Order[edit]

It has been announced that people in the United Kingdom who pre-order Guitar Hero World Tour's ‘super bundle’, which retails for around £150 and comes with a guitar controller, a microphone and drums, Activision will give away a second guitar controller completely free.

“This programme signals our enormous commitment to Guitar Hero World Tour,” Activision’s marketing director for the UK and Ireland David Tyler told MCV.

Reference: http://www.mcvuk.com/news/31815/Activision-gives-away-free-guitars —Preceding unsigned comment added by Batmanners (talk • contribs) 01:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Barker[edit]

The article says that Travis Barker has been seen doing mo-cap but during the E3 conference Travis said he will be a character in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Accent Aigu (talk • contribs) 22:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In this video on youtube, you can clearly see travis barker as the drummer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kGbN3gc7t4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.204.242 (talk) 21:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gamestop Preorders[edit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7b__FLVkbw

According to that video, put out by Gamestop, anybody who preorders World Tour from a Gamestop store will automatically have all songs unlocked. This, of course, can only mean that they are either packing a separate disc (highly unlikely and would likely upset many players) or they are simply giving out a cheat to unlock all songs. Either way, it's worth looking into a little more if possible and possibly adding I suppose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk • contribs) 02:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's really all that significant. Read the text in the video. It just says you get the unlock all songs cheat... which anyone can get on scorehero.com within days after the game's release. KhalfaniKhaldun 02:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right you are; I see the text now. I imagined as much. Dfsghjkgfhdg (talk) 04:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Game SetList[edit]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/909/909727p1.html The entire setlist has been revealed, should it be added to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.89.183.90 (talk) 18:56, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See List of songs in Guitar Hero World Tour. --MASEM 20:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confirm or delete[edit]

"Vicarious Visions has confirmed that controllers developed for the Wii version of Rock Band will not be compatible with the Wii version of World Tour." That needs to be confirmed or deleted, especially with the release so soon is a time we do not need disinformation. 114.75.10.27 (talk) 15:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/883/883120p2.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.54.185 (talk) 13:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is probably because the Guitar Hero World Tour drums require the Wii Remote to go into it and the Rock Band drums connect via USB port —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.23.105 (talk) 23:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pause timer[edit]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4LTICsFdg At :50, their controllers are disconnected for some reason, pausing the game. After, it shows them what's coming and gives them 4 seconds, should this be added? --MasterOfTheXP (talk) 00:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube isn't a reliable source.--Megaman en m (talk) 11:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, but it seems to be actual gameplay... this should at least be noted. 72.140.33.57 (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But per Wikipedia policy we don't mention anything like this without a reliable source. KhalfaniKhaldun 19:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The pause-timer is actually confirmed in Game Informer, issue 186, page 72. I'd add it in myself, but...the page is protected. Inane Asylum (talk) 13:36, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wii Instruments Might Be Compatible With Rock Band 2[edit]

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55371 They said GUITAR HERO 3 instruments will work and since Guitar Hero World Tour guitars and Guitar Hero 3 guitars are cross compatible, I'm guessing it should work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.54.185 (talk) 19:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New DLC[edit]

THey just released some new GH:WT songs on psn, could someone make a table of this songs, and make a new page called List Of Downloadable Songs On Guitar Hero: World Tour, and put it on there. if you can think of a shorter title also post this underneath my post. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estemshorn (talk • contribs) 03:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These are all listed on List of songs in Guitar Hero World Tour. A separate page for DLC is not needed in this case since (save for Death Magnetic) the songs are only good for GHWT, compared to Rock Band's DLC. --MASEM 03:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Travis Barker is definitely in the game[edit]

There's plenty of gameplay videos of him and a screenshot on the Guitar Hero Community website. http://community.guitarhero.com/accounts/323529/blogs/81736 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.54.185 (talk) 18:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, he isn't in the game. Doshindude (talk) 00:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Instrument pictures need replacing[edit]

If anyone can provide their own free-content pictures of the GHWT controllers (at least the guitar and drums), we need to have that done since the existing image is no longer appropriate. --MASEM 23:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary Drums Incompatibility[edit]

I just read on Joystiq that the drum set for the PS3 version of GH:WT is currently incompatible with Rock Band 2 for the same console, and is being recognized as a microphone instead, although a patch will likely be issued in the future. Bolmedias (talk) 10:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that this problem has remained unpatched for over a month, and with no sign from Sony or Harmonix that a patch will arrive anytime soon, I'd recommend updating the article to avoid spreading the misconception of working cross-compatibility. The link: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/27/guitar-hero-world-tour-drums-not-recognized-by-ps3-rock-band-2/ 76.217.97.164 (talk) 17:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PC World article[edit]

This article does not look to be hurting for sources, but I stumbled across a PC World article that may or may not be of use. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Not much new per the game, but we do have an updated sales number from the yahoo article its linked in. --MASEM 18:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS2 version instrument compatibility[edit]

I see I can't edit the article, so I'll post my findings here.

Instruments from the PS2 version of Rock Band ARE compatible with GH:WT. [1] [2]

Elie195 (talk) 19:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://redoctane.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/redoctane.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=21584&p_created=1224860213&p_sid=NAISyuhj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzcsMzcmcF9wcm9kcz0zLDEwMDEmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PTIuMTAwMSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1
  2. ^ http://redoctane.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/redoctane.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=21584&p_created=1224860213&p_sid=NAISyuhj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzcsMzcmcF9wcm9kcz0zLDEwMDEmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PTIuMTAwMSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1

Wii Rock Band Instruments[edit]

It is confirmed that Rock Band Drums, microphones and guitars are not compatible AND do not WORK with Guitar Hero World Tour, although World Tour instruments DO work with Rock band. I tried using the drums form rock band on world tour but it wouldnt work at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.187.148.133 (talk) 21:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, the microphones DO work. Any USB microphone will work. You could use the USB microphone that came with the Xbox 360 version of Rock Band with Guitar Hero World Tour for the Wii because it's a standard microphone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.54.185 (talk) 20:52, October 29, 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that's not true. I have tried two different USB microphones and neither of them worked. I think it was part of a lot of false advertising by Activision (remember "stereo" in the GH3 Wii?) Some guy (talk) 04:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS2 Singstar Mic Compatibility[edit]

Simply put, SingStar microphones are NOT compatible with Guitar Hero: World Tour for the PS2. But Rock Band`s mics DO work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.4.201.77 (talk) 14:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.30.95.127 (talk) 00:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protection status[edit]

Should this article stay semi-protected? The game has been out for about 2 weeks and the original reason for the page being put on semi-protection was because of the disputes over the release date and because of people adding songs to the track list that weren't actually going to be in the game. I doubt there will be much more "vandalism" like that now that the game is now on the market. Wolfemiester (talk) 22:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wii instrument compatibility, availability, false advertising and overpricing[edit]

First, Amazon.com wants $282 ($95 over retail) for the Wii band bundle, and that's the cheapest option available at Amazon. My impression is this is related to a massive shortage of the bundles. I think it's worth mentioning in the article, but I'm not certain. The band bundles for the other consoles are all at standard retail.

Secondly, Activision/Red Octane support says only previous GH controllers are compatible with the Wii version and no other peripherals are compatible. I have tried two different standard USB mics and neither of them worked, so I'm guessing the marketing hype about "any USB microphone" compatibility was a bunch of bullshit. There is an interview with the CEO of Vicarious Visions at IGN where he stated "The microphone however is a wired USB microphone (also Nintendo's recommended approach), so any USB microphone will work." If it's indeed true that some or most USB microphones are not actually compatible with the game, this is also worth mentioning in the article. This all reminds me of the stereo problem with GH3, and the download content that was promised and never materialized. Activision just doesn't care until they get tangled in lawsuits... Some guy (talk) 04:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Rock Band mic works fine. I used it cause it was already plugged in; the GHWT mic is still in packaging. I find with both games though sometimes you have to unplug it and then plug it back in if it doesn't recognize it at first. Generacy (talk) 13:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's possible I've just gotten unlucky with my USB mics, though "any USB microphone" was probably a foolish claim to make. Some guy (talk) 20:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just tested the singstar PS2 microphones and they are a no go as well. I tried both usb ports, as well as swapping the mike ports on the usba adapter, as well as 2 resets. I noticed some Ebay sellers need to change their ad as it is currently not compatible with our Wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.230.224 (talk) 03:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Wii drum controller only accepts MIDI in, making it unusable as a MIDI controller. Another lie from Activision. Some guy (talk) 22:25, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Did they ever say otherwise? I don't recall them saying you could use the GHWT drums as a MIDI controller outside of the game. I thought they said all along that what the MIDI port allows is for you to connect another MIDI drum kit to the GHWT kit and then play your MIDI drums in the game -- you can do that with the GHWT drums, and the statement you removed from the article said only this, which is why I will revert that edit. You may be right about what they claimed, but check your sources and make sure you didn't just misread it in the first place. TheMolecularMan (talk) 03:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Release dates?[edit]

Released in North America is all it says. There's no mention of a european release or any other releases. Should these be added or not? (I say yes) --MooNFisH (talk) 13:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Might want to learn to read the infobox. Some guy (talk) 20:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Gameplay?[edit]

In the first section of the article (gameplay), it claims that during band mode play, all members of the band must do star power movements at the same time to initiate star power, however, this isn't the case as each member of the band can initiate their star power seperatly. ChrizC (talk) 15:11, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wii mic compatibility[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}The Mic peripheral from EA's Boogie works with WII GH World Tour.—Preceding unsigned comment added by SimDietrich (talk • contribs)

 Not done Please re-frame your request in the form "Change X to Y", as suggested by the {{editsemiprotected}} template. Also try to provide sources to backup the change. Unpopular Opinion (talk) 19:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Complaints of Ps2 version not working[edit]

some people say that when they try to play guitar hero world tour on the ps2,that it does not read the disc and that it may cause the system to misread all discs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockstar itachi uchiha (talk • contribs) 01:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! If there are widespread media reports of this occuring from reliable sources, then we can talk about whether that information belongs in the article. Otherwise, talk pages are not a forum for discussion of the article's subject, only the article itself. TheMolecularMan (talk) 03:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wii drums, notes not "armored" but "accented."[edit]

I have the Wii version of GH:WT, and with the drums, you do not get "armored" notes, but you get "accented" notes which are like "armored" notes, however you do not need to hit the note harder to play the note, but you score more points based on how hard you hit the note. ChrizC (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's how it is on all versions of the game. You are never required to hit the drum harder to play the note. "Armored" and "accented" notes are just two different terms for the same thing. There's no difference. TheMolecularMan (talk) 01:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is a difference in the way the notes are presented. The notes look totally different. ChrizC (talk) 21:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed[edit]

I notice this article lists John Devecka's MTV Drumscape as the first music game. I can easily name more than 10 music games that came earlier. Perhaps the most obvious would be PaRappa the Rapper or maybe Karaoke Studio. Either way, I think this statement needs to be qualified in some way. Perhaps it could be changed to say "MTV Drumscape was the first music game to use drums," but we also need some kind of reference for this. -Thibbs (talk) 22:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the dubious tag to a disputed tag because though verifiable, the statement that MTV Drumscape is the first music game is blatantly wrong. To demonstrate this, I am including a few reliable sources which show an earlier date for another earlier music game: Parappa the Rapper (1996).
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  • Cummings, Alastair H. (2007). "Evolution of Game Controllers and Control Schemes and their Effect on the games" (PDF). University of Southampton: 8. Retrieved 2009-02-14. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); More than one of |author= and |last= specified (help)
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  • Chan, Alexander (2004-03-16). "CPR for the Arcade Culture - A Case History on the Development of the Dance Dance Revolution Community" (PDF). Stanford University: 4. Retrieved 2009-02-14. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help); More than one of |author= and |last= specified (help)
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I repeat my recommendation that the line in question be changed to say "MTV Drumscape was the first music game to use drums," but we also need some kind of reference for this. Cheers, -Thibbs (talk) 23:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would need to dig out my GI that had that article for this claim to see exactly what they said. In the short term, marking the entire section dubious/disputed is probably more harmful than just changing the language until it can be verified, which I have done to remove the "first music game" and just that he previous did MTV Drumscape. --MASEM 23:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. Yeah, the disputed tag is kind of harsh. I wish it could be placed inline like the dubious tag. Thanks for making the change. -Thibbs (talk) 23:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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