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No, wrong again, he actually attended White Oaks secondary School in Oakville, ON with me.

The highschool listed as the one Chris Hadfield attended is incorrect. He attended Milton District Highschool in Milton, Ontario not in Oakville. His NASA biography verifies this. (--Mphilp 19:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

He definitely went to WOSS, he comes every few years and gives a speech..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.183.88.202 (talk) 17:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no source that says that he did. Both his CSA and NASA bio's say Milton. If you have a reliable source that says other wise then please show us. Just because he goes to a school and speaks doesn't mean he attended that school. A lot of astro's go speak at schools, its a program that most if not all space agencies have.--NavyBlue84 01:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I, too remember Chris Hadfield from White Oaks Secondary School in Oakville, ON. Maybe he didn't attend the full five years of high school at WOSS, but he was definitely there. Maybe he finished in Milton, I'm not sure.----

He did both. He went to Milton District Secondary School and then switched to White Oaks to take some extra classes in order to get into RMC. He met his wife while attending White Oaks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.191.242.188 (talk) 07:28, 17 December 2011, (UTC)

View count of Space Oddity[edit]

Last available count I saw was over 7 million-worthy of a mention on this page, but on checking YouTube today it said zero views (on all vids, maybe just my iPad app playing up!). Grateful if someone could check and add in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.102.83 (talk) 19:33, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This citation link "2. ^ "First Canadian ISS Commander Named". Aviation Week. 3 September 2010." is broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.118.65.65 (talk) 12:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Third public school after Chris Hadfield in Brooklin Ontario[edit]

A public school in brooklin Ontario was named after chris hadfield, "Chris Hadfield Public School" This summer.

http://www.durham.edu.on.ca/html/unnamed_vipond_ps/unnamed_vipond_ps.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.153.184 (talk) 14:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of his recent book?[edit]

Hadfield's book An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth: What Going to Space Taught Me About Ingenuity, Determination, and Being Prepared for Anything appears frequently in the citations, but is never mentioned in the body of the entry. Brauden (talk) 05:09, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Gildir (talk) 18:14, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He has a new book as well, called You Are Here. It's a photobook with commentary which includes his favourite photos from space. I feel like that should probably be included in his post-retirement section as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.120.91.12 (talk) 02:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of a street and park named in his honour? Walk of Fame?[edit]

In Milton, Ontario where his parents still live, there is a street called Chris Hadfield Way and a park called Chris Hadfield Park that are named after him. Source: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1+Chris+Hadfield+Way,+Milton,+ON+L9T+1Y1,+Canada/@43.5206056,-79.8953103,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x882b6fb8bd2c874f:0xce6a76a81284f6fe Also, Hadfield was inducted into the Milton Walk of Fame. Source: http://www.milton.ca/en/townhall/resources/WalkofFame_Feb2014.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.255.6 (talk) 20:13, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fourth "Chris Hadfield Public School" in Mississauga[edit]

Last year another elementary school was named after him in Mississauga, Ont http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/5650181-astronaut-chris-hadfield-helps-open-mississauga-school-in-his-name/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.62.19 (talk) 20:16, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Space Sessions Label and CD Release[edit]

Cmdr. Hadfield's album, Space Sessions: Songs from a Tin Can is listed as being released in digital download only, and with no label. There is also a CD release (and according to allmusic.com, an LP release) through Warner Music Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiedyemike (talk • contribs) 19:32, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No mention of his popular youtube channel, Rare Earth?[edit]

https://www.youtube.com/user/ColChrisHadfield? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.76.116 (talk) 13:33, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2018[edit]

6h0ust (talk) 15:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC) trump[reply]
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Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2018[edit]

68.145.33.29 (talk) 03:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Other occupation: Musician[edit]

I was thinking that "other occupation: Musician" isn't really appropriate for the info box. His "musical career" is entirely related to playing music in space, thus being part of his astronaut career. To my knowledge, he hasn't toured as specifically a musician or officially released any music not related to his time his space, with the exception of a few youtube collaberations. While his music is definitely worth being in the article, I question if it is truly a second occupation. Thoughts? †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 14:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. He's a musician in in the same way George W. Bush is a painter; he makes music, but not as a career. TJRC (talk) 22:11, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2020[edit]

Since Hadfield held the rank of 'Colonel' in the Royal Canadian Air Force, his infobox should include the title of 'Colonel' as an honorific prefix above his name - as is standard for individuals with military service who do not have a military infobox (e.g. Erin O'Toole). 70.31.125.32 (talk) 19:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done! GoingBatty (talk) 21:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey guys, heads up that I'm going to go ahead and re-format the rank in infobox, as in Canadian military articles we typically don't include rank as an honourific since it doesn't make sense to list twice in the same infobox. As well for retired members, they are not entitled to use/display of the full rank title unless they indicate as such, per 15.09 of the Queen's Regulations and Orders. Thanks, WildComet (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Randusk: please note that it is improper to refer to retired CF officers by their full rank; that is a privilege only afforded to people with an active commission. This is made very clear in the 15.09 of the Queen's Orders and Regulations which is linked above. You mentioned that the government's website continues to refer to Hadfield using the rank, but this is not the case. His current governor general website page doesn't use the rank: https://www.gg.ca/en/node/111 , when it was used in the past, like when he received his MSC, it was either made clear that he is retired by including (Ret'd) beside his name: https://www.gg.ca/en/media/news/2013/governor-general-presents-meritorious-service-cross-civil-division-chris-hadfield , or, it was prior to his retirement, in which case no indication is required: https://www.gg.ca/en/honours/recipients/139-226 . As for his personal use, that's his discretion and not a valid source, per WP:SELFSOURCE. He doesn't write the QO&R and his self-use isn't an official practise.
Let me know if you have any questions - thanks, WildComet (talk) 00:40, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @WildComet: thanks for the info. I was referring to the GG's website entry here [1] along with all the other entries for him, which were published after his retirement titling him as "Colonel Chris Austin Hadfield" and CTV News uses it [2] as well. The CSA's biography of him (again after his retirement) [3] also uses his rank with his name multiple times as "Colonel Chris Hadfield". The RMC write-up from 2017 [4] also uses his rank. And like you mentioned above, his website [5] and other social media names use Col. in them. It is a very used title.
15.09 (2) states ...may use the rank title held by him or the designation of rank authorized to be used by him at the time of his release and, when so used, the word "(Retired)" or its abbreviation "(Ret'd)" shall be included. If there are so many uses of his title out there for him, and he uses it himself, and is entitled to use the rank title as stated, I don't see why we couldn't either use the honorific as it was or follow those standards and use it with the appropriate abbreviation. I'm happy to discuss. Randusk (talk) 18:16, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Randusk: So I do see that the GG website uses both forms, CTV and his own website aren't official sources on the proper use of military ranks however. At the end of the day though, the final authority on use of ranks by former members is the Queen's Orders & Regulations, which very clearly state it's not proper. Another issue is that a military rank simply isn't an honourific and shouldn't be included in that space of the infobox anyways. Neil Armstrong, David Scott, Michael Collins (astronaut), which are featured articles, don't include it, more recent examples like Doug Hurley, Bob Behnken, and Sunita Williams don't include it, and military specific articles like Leonard W. Murray, Harry DeWolf and Billy Bishop don't include it. The military career section of the infobox is more than sufficient to reflect past or current rank, and the only place to put in to comply with QO&R and per the precedence. I understand that he had a very accomplished military career and agree that it's important to reflect that, but when we start putting titles and ranks on for the sake of it, it just clutters the infobox and it becomes decorative, rather than conveying any useful information (ie, dates of service, branch, position) and frankly just looks tacky. Thanks for starting a discussion on this, WildComet (talk) 19:56, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @WildComet: I think it's important to note that a majority of the examples you provided are individuals of the US (Americans) and as a republic the US does not use honorifics, so it's not a fair comparison of title standards (like comparing the UK to India). If they did in any common, official way, presidents and high-ranking officials would be titled "The Honorable", which they are not. The Canadian examples you provided do use their entitled rank and post-nominals, but not in the infobox as it's repetitive. I'd agree that an honorific should be not be used in both the infobox andpreceding a name, but I don't agree with the idea that having an infobox honorific would clutter it. The final authority does say it's use is proper provided there's an indication of retirement.
IMO, I feel that there is nothing wrong with including it properly and that even if for whatever reason is not a standard, this could certainly be an exception since he is so widely referred to as colonel. Again, I fall back on all the government sources using his title after retirement, and the QO&R allowing its use with the 10-year "CD". I won't bother to add it back, but this is a good discussion. If anyone in the future sees this, it would be nice to get other thoughts on this too. Randusk (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2020[edit]

Luke thenotable (talk) 05:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chris is 61 years oldhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AChris_Hadfield&preload=Template%3ASubmit+an+edit+request%2Fpreload&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Template%3AEdit+semi-protected%2Feditintro&preloadtitle=Semi-protected+edit+request+on+31+May+2020&preloadparams%5B%5D=edit+semi-protected&preloadparams%5B%5D=Chris+Hadfield as of 2020.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AChris_Hadfield&preload=Template%3ASubmit+an+edit+request%2Fpreload&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Template%3AEdit+semi-protected%2Feditintro&preloadtitle=Semi-protected+edit+request+on+31+May+2020&preloadparams%5B%5D=edit+semi-protected&preloadparams%5B%5D=Chris+Hadfield

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Semi Protected Edit Request on September 13 2021[edit]

Chris Hadfield commented on twitter that he spent time in Maracaibo, Venezuela as a toddler while his father was working as an aerial survey pilot flying a B-17 for Kenting Aviation. I think this would be interesting to add to the beginning of the "Early Life" section.[1]

Proposed language: 

Hadfield was raised on a corn farm in southern Ontario, however he also spent time in Maracaibo, Venezuela as a toddler while his father was working as an aerial survey pilot flying a B-17 for Kenting Aviation

Source: https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/1437471785189060612

References

  1. ^ https://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/1437471785189060612

"Chris Hadfield Rocket Factory" does not exist[edit]

I cannot find any NASA page supporting the idea that NASA renamed its Michoud Assembly Facility to Chris A. Hadfield Rocket Factory. The sources cited are the Canadian Encyclopedia, which does not have any references for that fact; and a Flickr page, which says it only in the caption. There is a Facebook page for the so-called Hadfield Rocket Factory, but it is not run by NASA. Google Maps' Street View of the same location (see https://goo.gl/maps/8skGoumMMpZjKbc28) shows it is still named Michoud. The Michoud Assembly Facility wiki page also claims it was renamed, but cites the same two non-NASA references.

Searching the internet, I was unable to find any NASA page that mentions a 'Hadfield Rocket Factory'. There are some pages that show entrance signs for NASA Marshall Spaceflight Center renamed for Chris Hadfield. And in common-sense terms, the United States' NASA would not be naming anything after a Canadian, no matter how nice the guy is.

Therefore, the Chris Hadfield Rocket Factory appears to be a prank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.127.176.33 (talk) 21:00, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@174.127.176.33 Bumping this, since it's reoccurring in 2023. It appears to be the work of a troll who's made a Minecraft "tour" of the facility and footage of the Artemis I SLS has been interspersed with doctored images of the "renamed facility," along with the fake Flickr page that is used as a "source" for this misinformation on other articles. The cited article is not a veritable source, and having been to Michoud on multiple occasions, can confirm that there is no Hadfield Rockrt Factory on the premises. 2600:8807:5464:C00:14E8:71E0:55D5:3A55 (talk) 23:08, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@2600:8807:5464:C00:14E8:71E0:55D5:3A55 rocket* 2600:8807:5464:C00:14E8:71E0:55D5:3A55 (talk) 23:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]


  • Chris Hadfield has written several essays and books, including recently a novel called "The Apollo Murders". He is a writer in addition to being an astronaut, musician, professor and more. However, while his page has a section devoted to music, there is not really a section for books, except for the bibliography. I would like to see a mention of his writing accomplishments in one of the first few paragraphs on the page. Also, a new section could be created, perhaps above or below the "music" section to describe his books. There is currently a mention of his autobiography in the "post-retirement" section, but his other books could also be described. It might make more sense to put all his books in a new section titled "books.":
  • I feel his books are at least as important to the world as his music.:
  • Major media including the New York Times has covered "The Apollo Murders." :

63.157.251.26 (talk) 04:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris Hadfield is also an Author.[edit]

Hadfield's published works include: An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth The Apollo Murders The Darkest Sky (children's book) You Are Here (photo collection) 2001:56B:3FE0:74DE:0:62:B443:6A01 (talk) 02:20, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@2001:56B:3FE0:74DE:0:62:B443:6A01
But that isn't what he's known for tho.
Some people may know that he wrote books but most of them will also know that he's an astronaut 114.34.118.86 (talk) 11:16, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2023[edit]

Change "In 2005, 820 Milton Blue Thunder Squadron was renamed 820 Chris Hadfield Squadron in honour of Hadfield, who was a cadet there from 1971 to 1978." to "In 2005, 820 Milton Blue Thunder Royal Canadian Air Cadet Squadron was renamed 820 Chris Hadfield Royal Canadian Air Cadet Squadron in honour of Hadfield, who was a cadet there from 1971 to 1978."

This helps increase clarity due to the fact that Squadron could be interpreted as Air Force squadron instead of Royal Canadian Air Cadet squadron. Urlocalsandwich (talk) 23:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Language added similar to what was requested. Rehsarb (talk) 22:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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