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December 12

Inquiry Regarding Recent Contribution

Dear Wikipedia Team,

I hope this message finds you well. I recently attempted to contribute information about the founding organization of Pete Capano, and I also included a reference link to support the addition. However, it appears that my contribution was rejected. I am writing to seek clarification on the specific reasons for the rejection and to inquire about the proper procedure for adding this information.

I am committed to ensuring the accuracy and relevance of the content I contribute, and I would appreciate any guidance or feedback you can provide to help me improve my contributions. Additionally, if there are specific formatting or citation requirements that I may have overlooked, I would be grateful for any pointers.

Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to your response.

Sincerely, 96.230.129.157 (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Your edit was reverted because it included formatting errors that resulted in big red error messages in the article after your edit. That is why your edit wss reverted. Please read Referencing for beginners. Please also be aware that secondary sources are strongly preferred to primary sources, such as websites associated with Capano. Cullen328 (talk) 02:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your contributions. In addition to the concern brought up by the comment above, it also seems that your edit was reverted because of the content and the source are not neutral enough to be included. Your introduction of the organization that the subject founded reads like promotional material, and lacks substantial description on what the organization did and how is it notable. The two sources you provided are the official website of the said organization and a document introducing the subject as a candidate, neither of which are independent enough to be suitable sources. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! We encourage people to be bold and make edits to improve articles. However, sometimes another person will revert those edits. Per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, the best place to discuss situations like this is the article's talk page: Talk:Peter Capano. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for everything 🙏 41.116.183.79 (talk) 12:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Is this the right time to use this template?

I was planning to put the distinguish template on the top of the article West Point, New York to distinguish it from the United States Military Academy, which is also known as West Point. Would this be the correct time to use the distinguish template? ‍ ‍ Relativity ‍ ‍ 04:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I don't think this is unreasonable. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 04:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Philip Meadowes

Please fix up ref. number 4 - it was difficult for me. Thank you 115.70.23.77 (talk) 04:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Looks like you just need to change {{cite journal}} to {{cite web}} to resolve the error. Folly Mox (talk) 04:14, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

 Fixed 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Help with personnel section

Let's say I'm writing a personnel section for an album, and a performer is credited with something unusual, such as "word bitz". This is obviously a type of vocal performance. Should I credit them for "word bitz", or "vocals"? Thank you in advance.

SupremeLordBagel (talk) 05:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

SupremeLordBagel, how obvious is it that "word bitz" refers to a vocal performance? Without seeing the rest of the bespoke credits, I could see it having to do with lyrical composition without contributing to the vocals. If your source says "word bitz", feel free to credit the contributor for "word bitz", with the quote marks included, citing the source that uses the term. Folly Mox (talk) 12:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Full guidance is at MOS:PERSONNEL. If it's genuinely obvious that "word bitz" refers to vocals, you could say "vocals" without it being considered Original Research. Folly Mox (talk) 12:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the help. I'll go with "word bitz" with quote marks. SupremeLordBagel (talk) 04:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

simple question?

I have been operating my own "CDC" or "Data Warehouse" for nearly two decades. Currently it is 20+ Servers/ 125+/- Virtual Servers, no less than 80 CPUs/800 Cores, 40TB RAM, and 2.2PB SAN Storage. I do all this for less than $20,000.00/year, yet I see that you are all the time asking for donations to operate this site. I wonder two things, the first is, what are you doing with all your money that you always need more, and second is, how do you think your information can stay accurate when so many people edit the posts? Just for my interest I data minded your site, and found that in doing so for just three days the reliability of information varied by 4.7%, one would think, for all the donations, the number would be less than .05%... Crisp411 (talk) 06:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia_Foundation#Finances may be the place to start on money.

On how we think info can stay accurate, see Wikipedia:General disclaimer, Reliability of Wikipedia, Vandalism on Wikipedia, Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia, Ideological bias on Wikipedia etc. Note also, that the donations don't go to the people who edit WP-articles, those people are mostly volunteers who edits WP as a hobby.

Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

You may or may not find this article interesting: The Huge Fight Behind Those Pop-Up Fundraising Banners on Wikipedia Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:47, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Monica Guerritore

The biography is very confusing; moreover, there are some links that look like spam, even though they are not. JackkBrown (talk) 10:50, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I agree that the article is very bad, but I don't find it especially confusing. The main problems are external links in the body (including one to Facebook), sourcing to IMDB (which is user-generated), and the later bits of the biography being wholly unsourced. Other problems are ALL CAPS where Title Case or italics is meant, and a statement that places 2019 in the future rather than the past. Feel free to fix it up, JackkBrown. There should be plenty of guidance at MOS:FILM for actor biographies. Folly Mox (talk) 12:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Per references, it's a pretty bad BLP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:50, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

What to do with all-white non-free logos?

I will admit, I'm fairly new to the non-free image upload system, but having just uploaded the updated logo for Go-Ahead London, with plans in the works for extracted SVGs from companies such as Go North East and Go North West, I'm not sure what the technical policy is for white-on-transparent non-free logos such as what I've uploaded. Should a colour background be included (e.g. TfL red, as they appear on London buses; I can't find any instance where a white Go-Ahead London logo is not used), or would that both go against policy and look a bit ugly? Looking through WP:LOGOS, I can't find any advice on the matter. Hullian111 (talk) 11:22, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

MOS:CONTRAST would imply that the white logos should be placed on a contrasting background. Since the logos themselves are non-free, this could be accomplished by setting the background colour of the infobox element in which they appear using standard CSS, rather than editing the images themselves. (As an unhelpful aside, as a dark mode user the logo at Go-Ahead London already looks fine for me.) Folly Mox (talk) 12:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, messing with the infobox itself does feel like an unnecessary complication. Per another user's advice, I may have just found another alternative on the Go-Ahead Group's website that I somehow overlooked. I'll see if the logos listed are SVGs and then maybe I'll put the new one out as replacement. Hullian111 (talk) 12:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

promotional material

Hi,

I've submitted content for a page buts it's being flagged as promtional - can anyone point out why?

The page I was submitting was the 'Williamson Trust' but it's clashing with 'The Williamson Trust' which is now dissolved (no connection) but when the article was undone 'The Wiliamson Trust' article reappears, which will confuse readers. EcomStudios (talk) 11:50, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi User:EcomStudios, thanks for disclosing your paid status. I'd encourage you to use the Articles for Creation process rather than overwriting a redirect. Fair warning is that your sourcing doesn't establish "notability", which we really ought to call "already published aboutness". Your sources are the organisation's own website and a listing of all registered charities, neither of which meet the three critera of reliability with independence with significant coverage. If you're able to establish notability of your subject, the decision of how to disambiguate Williamson Trust and The Williamson Trust can be made afterwards. Best luck, Folly Mox (talk) 12:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Folly,

Do you think I could just add a general statement like 'The Williamson Trust is a charitable trust[1] established to improve health and wellbeing. It was founded in 1987 by William Salt (1925 – 2020) with the aim of enabling quality of life and longevity. [1] Registered charity no. 327601, Charity Commission for England and Wales'

To get the page started?

I also first submitted the article as a draft but it seemed to get 'stuck' in the process - does this normally take a long time - it was over a month. EcomStudios (talk) 12:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

EcomStudios, unfortunately yes, AfC is chronically backlogged and often takes weeks to months. This is actually a bit of a more interesting (read: complicated) situation than it seems at first blush, because the sourcing for the existing article The Williamson Trust isn't really better than the sourcing at Draft:Williamson Trust, and The Williamson Trust may not have passed AfC if it had been created through that process today rather than directly in mainspace five years ago.

Based on my total inexpertise on either of these trusts, it seems there's likely no primary topic for the term "Williamson Trust", and if your article already existed the choice to disambiguate the two Williamsons Trust would be very probable.

I would say your first order of business is to find additional sourcing for your client Williamson Trust, rather than trying to put information about it into mainspace. Once you have more sources, you'll have a significantly stronger position to argue for disambiguation, as well as get your article through AfC. Repeatedly overwriting the redirect currently at the title Williamson Trust is only likely to cause you trouble. Folly Mox (talk) 12:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, EcomStudios. Absolutely the first step in creating any article, big or small, should be searching for the independent reliable sources which are a non-negotiable requirement for establishing that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, because if you cannot find such sources, any other work you may have spent on the article will be wasted. ColinFine (talk) 02:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Donation

I would like to donate by cheque. I do not give out my money card details. 159.196.132.85 (talk) 15:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

The page Ways to Give includes a mailing address to which you can send a cheque. Thank you for wanting to support the project! -- John of Reading (talk) 16:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Added upcoming Project was reverted

Yash upcoming project reverted after adding wiki page toxic (2025) wiki artical created on the name of Toxic (2025) with all link provided in the page Please check this link

https://www.filmcompanion.in/news/yashs-next-film-titled-toxic

https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/south/yash-19-titled-toxic-directed-by-geethu-mohandas-set-to-release-april-2025-1263993

Gangasutha (talk) 17:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Gangasutha, per WP:FILMOGRAPHY, do not add future film projects until filming has begun as verified by a reliable source. Please talk with the person that reverted you first before coming to the Help desk. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 18:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

When to post to COI/N?

Laureys1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) created his own article, Steven Laureys. There has been work on it since its creation, but until my recent edits it had no mention of the COI anywhere in the article or talk page. The article is also undersourced, and so I have added that banner as well. I alerted the user on their talk page. My question is: is putting up the COI banner on the article enough in this situation? Or is the fact that he created his own article an issue that should be handled in another manner? Kimen8 (talk) 21:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Kimen8, Laureys1 created that article with three edits in July, 2009 and has not edited since. The article has been edited repeatedly over the years and about 40% of the content has been added by other editors. I see no point in filing a noticeboard report about an editor who has been inactive for 14-1/2 years, and I wonder whether the tags you added are appropriate in this particular situation. Efforts to improve the article are, of course, always welcomed. Cullen328 (talk) 21:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. There are articles (I am thinking of Michael Abramoff recently), that I think had the COI banner because the editor who created the article had a COI; in that article's talk page it was decided the COI banner should stay. I guess it should be handled on a case-by-case basis. I think it would be reasonable to remove the COI banner from Steven Laureys, but it is still undersourced so I would leave that banner. Unless something else is said, I'll remove the COI template and leave the sources needed template. Kimen8 (talk) 22:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Kimen8, that case is quite different because there has been obvious undisclosed paid editing on that article in recent months. Cullen328 (talk) 22:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you again. I'm still trying to figure out how to handle these sorts of situations. I value the integrity of the project as a whole and want to make sure COIs are addressed when they need to be, and I'm trying to learn when they need to be addressed, and when they don't. Kimen8 (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Kimen8: It's a matter of editorial judgement. You are an editor, and you can choose to make the judgment. If, in your opinion, the article as it stands today is not biased by a conflict of interest, then there is no reason to warn the readership by using the template. If you feel that the article is biased, then use the template to warn the readership. Better, fix the bias if possible. If unsure, discuss on the article's talk page. Go to COI/N if the COI editor is actively messing with the article and discussion on the talk page is not working. -Arch dude (talk) 23:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Mainspace links to Draft???

Is the following statement correct? No mainspace articles should link or redirect to Draftspace, correct? I did a search for insource:/\[\[Draft:/ in mainspace and got 389 hits including some redirects from Mspace to Draft:Mspace. So 389 articles that need to be fixed, right? Naraht (talk) 21:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Most, but not all were in comments, looks like about 20-25 that are actual.Naraht (talk) 21:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that statement is correct. Like every rule on Wikipedia it's up to the subset of the community who cares to enforce it. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Did some cleanup on those, lots are inside comments, but I figured out how to eliminate most from a search.Naraht (talk) 09:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Blow magazine and Public relations

Hi there. I notice the magazine I did in the 90’s is not listed when I search on Wikipedia. How can I add it please. Many thanks Michael1133 (talk) 21:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Michael1133: Hi there! Creating a new Wikipedia article can be quite challenging, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles. To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction. I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills. Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article and summarize what the sources have published, and be prepared for a process that may include waiting for review, declines, and rewrites before an article is accepted. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

HI There, I don't understand this really. The magazine was published from 1992-97. It was written about extensively in the fashion and media circles. It launched the same time as Dazed & Confused, which is listed. We had global distribution. I have a ton of press on the magazine. Michael1133 (talk) 09:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

If you can provide this press that you claim to have, and it meets the requirements stated at WP:RS, then editors may create an article about your magazine. It is not recommended that you create the article yourself. miranda ^:3 22:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

in addition to what GoingBatty says, if this was your magazine, then you would have a conflict of interest in creating an article about it. This doesn't mean that you can't do so, but it tends to make a challenging task even harder, as you will basically need to forget everything you know about the magazine and write an article based on what the independent reliable sources say (even if you think they are wrong). ColinFine (talk) 02:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

article about non-existent place

this article for "Petrel" minnesota (an unincorporated community) is inaccurate, it is just a creek and not an actual place, I also found no way to delete this page. If anyone could fix this that would be great! Bradinator33 (talk) 23:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

@Bradinator33: I used the {{prod}} mechanism to nominate it for a proposed non-contentious deletion. If you ever need to do this yourself, just go ahead. The other two ways are "speedy delete" for egregious cases, or WP:AFD for cases where discussion is needed, you can do those, too, if needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arch dude (talk • contribs) 23:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

December 13

Ban Appeal

Earlier I was banned and I want to see if there was a comment made about my ban, How do I navigate to the comments page 76.144.33.67 (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that the IP you're using has ever been blocked or banned. I'm not sure what you mean about a 'comments page' either – you might be thinking about a user talk page? You might try typing "User talk:Username" (with your username, of course) into the search bar to access that page. Tollens (talk) 03:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

If you have a Wikipedia account that had been banned, then you are violating your ban by editing logged out. You must stop doing this. As exlained above, go to the user talk page of the banned account, and follow the instructions there very carefully. I recommend that you read and study the Guide to appealing blocks until you understand it thoroughly. Cullen328 (talk) 09:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Spellchecking

Hello, Wikipedia. My question is, is there a tool specifically for spellchecking, and looking for grammatical errors in articles? Thank you. Kimosaabe (talk) 06:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Kimosaabe. I recommend that you read Wikipedia:Spellchecking to start. Cullen328 (talk) 09:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Sylva Koscina#Death

Very quick question: I deleted "aged 61" and "from" and added "at the age of 61" and "of", but the sentence doesn't seem to have improved much; any opinions on how to improve it? JackkBrown (talk) 12:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Read wikt:aged, then restore the sentence to its original Koscina died in Rome in 1994, aged 61, from breast cancer. You can replace from with of if you wish, although I would choose to retain the former. Bazza (talk) 14:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Where can I ask for a Korean source to be translated?

This one, for NW Rota-1. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:53, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Cited sources do not necessarily need to be in English, you can insert the translation of the title when adding a new citation. See WP:RSUE. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 13:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

WP:RSUE links to Wikipedia:Translators available, which includes a Korean-to-English section. TSventon (talk) 13:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Podcast companies list

You are missing the largest podcast production firm for corporations and government in the world. Obieandax.com 99.229.243.189 (talk) 16:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. The notability criteria for organizations is at WP:NORG; if you think this company meets the criteria, and you have reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage of the subject, then Help:Your first article has instructions on how to get an article started. 57.140.16.1 (talk) 16:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Why are articles about places in Scotland often stubs & have some weasel words? Or even capital letters which I say means poorly written?

Are they just poorly written or not? Or created by Scotish editors who are beginning Wikipedia? This is also the case of many Indian village/town/state district articles. Many of the words have capital letters, which means it’s poorly written. Why? —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 16:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

So, respond now ASAP if you are on the help desk right now! —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 16:26, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

There are many poor quality article on Wikipedia, roll up your sleeves and start improving them. Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

But why? Give me some reasons in such Scottish & Indian articles. —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 16:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@The Industrial Me 1563 Maybe because the population of India is 300 times the population of Scotland and hence has many more editors here? You are going to have to give some actual articles you believe are poor if you want other editors to try to improve them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:55, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Looking at the OPs contributions [1] it would appear that WP:NOTHERE applies, I'll stop feeding the troll. Theroadislong (talk) 16:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Trying to add my Tallest Stilts Record

I am having difficulty trying to make a submission. I find do so is very complicated. I went throught the tuter section with no success. I did put a draft in with ref. to Guinness World Records with prove of my accomplishment. Not sure if it went in for review. Thanks Stilts 55 (talk) 16:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Your draft here Draft:Worlds Tallest Stilts has no content, it is doubtful that the topic is notable however. Theroadislong (talk) 16:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Stilts 55, your draft has not been submitted for review, and seems to have no content at all. What sources do you have that cover yourself and your accomplishment? 57.140.16.1 (talk) 16:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

If you can find several places where people wholly unconnected with you, and not prompted or fed information on your behalf, have chosen to write in some depth about what you have done and been published in reliable sources, then it is possible that an article could be written; but it sounds a bit like WP:BLP1E to me. ColinFine (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

O que é Estáter e uma das primeiras moeda s?

Moedas comercial. Sueliit (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sueliit, the help desk is a place to ask questions about using or editing English Wikipedia. For questions about currency, I'd recommed asking at WP:RD/H (and it would be helpful if you could ask in English, but those folks might just use Google translate if you don't, as I just did). 57.140.16.1 (talk) 20:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Wiki criteria

Hi Wiki, I wanted to ask what is the criteria for a personal insertion? I was hoping to add a personal insertion for a departed family member and although not famous person , he was very successful local business man from the UK who has a very interesting background and I would like to have his story told for prosperity and longevity. I look forward to your response. Mr Kevin Moore. KMoore244 (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what do you mean by personal insertion. If you want to create an article about a person, make sure that there are multiple significant coverage of the subject from reliable and independent sources (See WP:NBIO). And since you mentioned that it is a family member, you must declare your conflict of interest when creating the article. If you don't have prior experience of writting a Wikipedia article, it is advised to make a draft first and waits for approval of experienced editors.

If you want add some material about a person to an existing article, again, make sure that the content you add can be backed up with sources from reliable and independent sources. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@KMoore244 Relevant criteria are briefly summarised at WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Wikipedia is not concerned about fame but equally is not a place to memorialise someone. You business man would need to meet the relevant wikinotabilty guideline based on published sources meeting these criteria. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

If the gentleman doesn't pass the notability criteria, as seems likely, I recommend you write his story on a free blog hosting site such as Substack. --Viennese Waltz 09:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Aria di Festa

Should "Aria di Festa" be written in italics? JackkBrown (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, you know more about this issue than the vast majority of English Wikipedia editors, so why don't you just make that determination yourself? Just follow the Bold, revert, discuss process. Cullen328 (talk) 01:24, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

MOS:BADITALICS: A proper name is usually not italicized. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Abbey

"Abbey" of "Abbey of Leno" in lower or uppercase? Same in "Abbey of San Zeno, Verona"; I noticed that on these pages there is lowercase, while on the others there is uppercase. As always, Wikipedia doesn't apply consistency... JackkBrown (talk) 23:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

It's clearly a proper name, like Kingdom of Sicily. I've changed it accordingly. Thank you for pointing it out. Maproom (talk) 23:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Maproom: also in the second article; remember to edit the whole "Abbey of" articles; I could do it, but I'm away now and since you started it, you could do it. Thanks in advance. JackkBrown (talk) 23:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Maproom might choose to do it. But you are the one concerned (I might say "obsessed") with this, so why do expect anybody else to do it? ColinFine (talk) 16:16, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: if there were no "obsessed" users, the encyclopaedia would be much less accurate. JackkBrown (talk) 16:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Possibly. But most of them quietly get on with their obsession, without keeping on coming back to ask "Is this all right?" "Should I do this?" "Can somebody do that for me?" ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: for this very reason, that of questioning even my own modifications, makes me a much more precise user than another "obsessed" user. JackkBrown (talk) 19:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, you say "Wikipedia doesn't apply consistency" as if "Wikipedia" has a single mind, but "Wikipedia" has been compiled over more than 20 years by the efforts of hundreds of thousands of different individuals – currently, in any calendar month over 100,000 different people perform edits.

Even though standards have been laid down (and evolved over years, not made imprimatur from Day one) most contributors will not have managed to follow them perfectly, and this is fine, because creating articles and getting correct, verifiable information into them is much more important than worrying about the cosmetics of presentational consistency that less than 0.1% of users are likely even to notice.

Improving consistency is a laudable activity, and you are welcome to contribute to it, but do not assume the right to badger others into prioritising it over many, many other improvements that they may prefer to concentrate on. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 19:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

December 14

Another question

How long should a template remain in place until something happens to the text that needs to be cited (i.e. the text is deleted, there's a discussion, etc.)? Just for context, I'm trying to find this out because part of part of paragraph two in West Point, New York#Geography and climate is unsourced, and I'm having trouble finding a citation for it. ‍ ‍ Relativity ‍ ‍ 01:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

If you can't find suitable sources, you can just remove the content in question. Technically there are no time limit on those things, but if they've been there for a while and no improvement can be made, then removal is quite reasonable. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Tutwakhamoe: I mean, this citation has been there since July. I don't know if that's long enough at this point. ‍ ‍ Relativity ‍ ‍ 02:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

If you are referring to the sentence started with "Extremes in temperature...", I don't see any cited sources for it. You can remove the content, as you've done your search and did not find suitable sources. If anyone wants to add those back, they'll be expected to provide sources, that's all. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Relativity: If you wish, you can remove it five minutes after it is added, even without a {{citation needed}}, as part of the WP:BRD process. Removal is a signal to the other editor that the entry must be discussed before it is re-added. However, be reasonable. Let the other editor have a bit of time first, maybe a day. We are supposed to be collaborating, not fighting. -Arch dude (talk) 03:11, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Relativity, the information you removed here just needed to be updated. The specific weather numbers are available in the sources linked at the bottom of the colourful climate table (NOAA and National Weather Service).

The reason the numbers present in the article didn't already match the sources is because they came from an older dataset: 1981–2010 instead of 1991–2020. When {{Weather box}} at that article was updated in 2021, the updating editor neglected to update the prose paragraph preceding the table. The matching numbers can still be seen at NOAA. The record high and low temperatures (sourced to this) don't need to be updated, but take a little bit of work to verify.

The source website must be interfaced with in the following way: in the default tab (NOWData), in the left pane (1. Location) select "West Point, NY"; in the second pane (2. Product) select "Calendar day summaries"; in the third pane (3. Options), the default range will be "all time", which for me displays as "por - 2023" inside two lozenges; you can select under "Variable" either "Max Temp" or "Min Temp", and leave the "Summary" as the default; in the fourth pane, tap "Go" and you will be shown a sortable table with record daily high (or low) temperatures in Fahrenheit, with the record monthly high / low displayed in red / blue. Oh right I forgot to mention: you'll have to extract the record all time temperatures by comparing the coloured numbers. This falls under WP:CALC and is not considered Original Research. 04:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Since all of the processing takes place server-side without altering the URL, it can make it seem like the source doesn't support the prose, and it took me a few minutes to figure out how to do it, but the information is there.

Being that you've taken an interest in this article, I'd suggest you restore the removed information and update the relevant numbers using the more recent dataset, perhaps specifying the year range, and adding inline citations that point to the same sources cited at the bottom of the {{weather box}} template, which you can do easily (see Wikipedia:Named references, a redirect I correctly guessed). If you wish not to restore any of the climate information, that's probably fine too, but I thought you might want to know how to source the information since you asked about it here. Folly Mox (talk) 04:17, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Folly Mox: Thank you for telling me! ‍ ‍ Relativity ‍ ‍ 00:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Steps between letting a paid editor know there's an issue and COIN?

I've recently been dealing with a paid editor- however, I feel like I've exhausted my (very limited) ability to explain the issues to them. Other editors have also left notes when they reverted the paid editor's contributions, but they haven't stuck around. I don't feel like escalating to the WP:COIN is a good idea yet, but I'm very inexperienced in this area. Also, with a paid editor, I'm not entirely sure how to have a genuine conversation, which isn't helping either of us. What are some good steps to take before taking this to the noticeboard? Is there a guideline of how many time somebody can try to add promotional material to an article before an editor should escalate? Thank you for any advice you can give me.GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 06:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@GreenLipstickLesbian: when you are inexperienced and feel like you are out of your depth, it's time to step back and turn the problem over to more experienced Wikipedians. Take it to WP:COIN now. Coming to the help desk was a good idea, but in this case I do not think there is an appropriate intermediate step. -Arch dude (talk) 06:34, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Arch dude:Thank you for your advice. I don't want to trouble the noticeboards unnecessarily, but you're right. I really do need to let somebody more experienced take over, before I can do any damage. I'm going to take the issue there now. Thank you again. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Arvind Limbavali how to edit this content

Hello team, We need to edit content of Arvind Limbavali now it showing Semi protected K rakshath (talk) 07:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

K rakshath, why do you say "we"? -- Hoary (talk) 07:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

The extensive "Controversy" section may not be WP:BLP-good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@K rakshath For articles that are locked to you, it is always possible to make suggested edits on the corresponding Talk Page, in this case Talk:Arvind Limbavali. There is an explanation of the process at WP:ER. Note that this biography falls into the class of Wikipedia:Contentious topics so you should also read that linked page before making any suggestion. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:21, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

When somebody says "we need to edit [article]", they often need to read WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. ColinFine (talk) 16:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@K rakshath At your request, the semi-protection on that article was removed. You proceeded to delete all the controversy section but that has now been restored by User:Celjski Grad. At this point in our bold, revert, discuss cycle, you must discuss your proposed version on the Talk Page of the article. You have repeatedly used the word "we" in making edit summaries. Are you in any way connected with Limbavali or acting on his behalf? Is so, your conflict of interest should be declared and any edit suggestions made using the {{edit COI}} template, via the Talk Page. See also your own Talk Page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I've also brought the article up on the BLP noticeboard for additional guidance Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Arvind Limbavali Celjski Grad (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

OP indeffed for VAND. Folly Mox (talk) 14:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

[Suleyman Demirel University] => [SDU University]

Добрый день! У нас в университете сложилась проблема с наименованием, пришлось сделать ребрендинг и поменять название университета. Проблема в том что в википедий мы никак не смогли поменять тему/заголовок https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleyman_Demirel_University [Suleyman Demirel University] => [SDU University] ISpeciaLxx (talk) 09:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Machine translation:

Good afternoon Our university had a problem with the name, we had to rebrand and change the name of the university. The problem is that on Wikipedia we couldn’t change the topic/title. Tollens (talk) 09:19, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Please provide a suitable source for the rebranding, preferably not from the university itself. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@ISpeciaLxx: There is also a discussion at Talk:Suleyman Demirel University, so it would be best to continue the discussion there. If you work for the university, you must declare your conflict of interest. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Image for Macon B. Allen on Wikipedia

Dear Staff,

The image for Macon B. Allen is inaccurate. There are no known pictures of Macon Allen. In fact, the existing image is of Robert Elliott, Sr. How would one address this error and have the existing image deleted?

Thanks you.

Wink Twyman 2600:1700:A380:C1D0:95A5:4C14:FB77:487C (talk) 15:11, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

There are no "staff" in Wikipedia, we are all volunteers. When reporting a problem with a page please include a link such as [[Robert_B._Elliott]], it helps us to know which of the 6 or 7 million articles you are referring to. I'm assuming that you are talking about Macon Bolling Allen and Robert B. Elliott, there are quite a few Robert Elliotts. At first glance the image of Allen doesn't look like the images of Elliott, do you have any references for your assertion? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I concur: the hairlines are implausibly different. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 19:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! It's also best practice to first ask at the article's talk page. For example, if your concern is about the image at Macon Bolling Allen, then the first place to ask would be Talk:Macon Bolling Allen (along with any published reliable sources). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Wink, unfortunately, people occasionally misidentify historical images on blogs or other sites. Then these get added to Wikipedia by well-meaning editors, which means that they very soon spread across the internet with the incorrect identification. It is very difficult to counter this once it has happened.

To my mind, this looks like Robert Morris (lawyer), but this Philadelphia Tribune article shows the the two side by side, so what do I know? Counterfeit Purses (talk) 15:58, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Change country where a page is deposeted

Anyone that can help me with changing he country where my page page is deposited (now is DE.wikipedia... and it should be EN.wikipedia...)?

Thank you in advance Simomalna (talk) 15:19, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Simomalna: Hi there! Are you referring to de:Banca del Sempione? You could follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Translation to create a draft here. GoingBatty (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Simomalna, If you mean that you want Banca del Sempione to be an article on en-WP, see guidance at WP:TRANSLATE and WP:NCORP. As currently written, that article will not be accepted on en.WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:51, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Simomalna, why shouldn't there be a (German-language) article about this (or any) subject on the German-language Wikipedia?

Why indeed should any-language Wikipedia not have an article about this subject (in its appropriate language)? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.,230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 19:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

If a subject meets the requirements for notability in one language Wikipedia, but not another, then there may be an article about it in the first but there cannot be one in the second.

Otherwise the answer is the same as every other "why isn't there an article about X?" viz, "Because nobody has written it". ColinFine (talk) 20:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

En-WP shouldn't if the subject fails WP:NCORP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

This may be a minor point but it is important conceptually. The various versions of Wikipedia are not organized by country but instead by language. Any German speaker anywhere is welcome to contribute to the German Wikipedia. There are 20 times more speakers of Portugese in Brazil than in Portugal. There are 500 million native speakers of Spanish in Latin America and only 50 million in Spain. Wikipedia language versions know no national boundaries. Cullen328 (talk) 08:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Correct, but when it comes to less international languages, they tend to largely become country-WP:s (I saw a journalist making that point recently). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

That doesn't surprise me, Gråbergs Gråa Sång. But if it's true, as it probably is, then it's not something I'd want to encourage. Let Swedish-literate Finns and others contribute to Swedish-language Wikipedia, Abkhazian-literate Turks and others contribute to Abkhazian-language Wikipedia, and so on. -- Hoary (talk) 12:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely, I'm not saying it's a good thing. But for many languages, there won't be many other-country people getting involved. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Editing the history section of the vital articles page: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/History

Hi, I am an active editor of the vital articles project here on Wikipedia. The main reason I am reaching out is because I am editing this page which are the level 5 articles for the history section. When you look at the last three sections of 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries, I would like to change them so that Late modern covers events before 1945 and Contemporary covers events after 1945. I have tried making the changes before manually, but my edits got reverted because the list didn't come out right. I asked for help on the vital articles talk page, but I didn't get a lot of comments there. It is frustrating because I would've thought that other editors would build off my edits to make it better and instead reverted my edits. I am hoping that I can find a good tool that I can use to complete this task there. Interstellarity (talk) 15:49, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Interstellarity, I've put some time into trying to understand what is going on at the linked page, I read the talkpage conversation between you and Piotrus, and I looked at the edits you made 24 November. With no edit summaries, and context lacking in diff mode, it's really difficult to see what you're trying to do.

Are pages like this the sole data repositories of the Vital Articles project? There's no underlying database or anything? Without a more structured form of data, any reperiodisation is going to have to be done manually, and I'm rather astonished that Cewbot is able to make anything of that page (which I had to view in desktop mode: in mobile view the 3300+ entries are flatly unnavigable).

Since you seem to have consensus at Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level/5/Subpage 2#History to perform the reperiodisation, unless there's an underlying data structure you can update, I think the methodology I would tentatively suggest would be first to create "Early modern" and "Contemporary" subheadings on the enormous V5/Hisory page, and progressively fill them up with entries and subcategories by removing them from the existing 19th, 20th, and 21th century categories. This will result in a transitional phase during which two competing incomplete periodisations will coexist on the page, which I can only imagine people will hate, but it should be easier not to drop articles. I'd also strongly recommend leaving an edit summary with each edit in this process, along the lines of "19th century Africa topics → Early modern Africa topics". That way people will be able to follow what you're doing.

An alternative idea would be to copypaste the wikitext of the existing periods into a separate app, reorganise it there, and then dump it overtop the existing schema all in one diff. If you export the relevant sections of the page into a spreadsheet program, you should be able to add columns for "updated period" and "subcategory" (most of which will be geographical areas), then order the contents of the spreadsheet by those two new columns, and export the reordered links back to wikitext. This will help make sure you don't drop any items, and will reduce the amount of time two competing schema are present at the project page to zero, but will be extra work.

Any way you approach this seems like it will take a long time. I'm hoping someone might have better suggestions. Folly Mox (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

The Communist States Page

I think this page should be entirely deleted, and instead have "Communist States" redirect to "Communist Nations", since there can be no such thing as a communist state, considering a communist society is notably "stateless". Also, most of these nations are socialist SpookyScarySocialist (talk) 19:19, 14 December 2023 (UTC)SpookyScarySocialist (talk) 19:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Usually, States commonly described as "Communist" by themselves and/or others are (or their ruling politicians supposedly are) aspiring towards communism, and are likely either in the Socialist stage of this hoped-for evolution, or would like others to think they are. I don't know offhand of any State that has achieved full communism yet, and in political discourse this is widely understood.

In what way do you think that the article Communist state fails to make this clear? If you can specify your concerns and find Reliable sources that corroborate your unverified thoughts, you should discuss them on the Talk page of the article and seek to build a consensus in favour of introducing your proposed change(s). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 19:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@SpookyScarySocialist: Please always link any page you refer to or want help with. I don't know whether you mean Communist state, List of communist states, Category:Communist states, or something else. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:36, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I will do as such in the future, but this applies to all of those articles truly SpookyScarySocialist (talk) 16:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I feel it fails purely in it's name. The name "communist state" itself is an oxymoron and completely contradictory, even if it is explained SpookyScarySocialist (talk) 16:38, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I fear you are in the minority. Many terms in English are idiomatic, not literal, and it is not Wikipedia's mission to WP:Right great wrongs by ignoring our own WP:Commonname policy. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 18:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Heads up: problematic user

Hey

I'm not an admin so I can't do much about this. Please look at User:188.251.247.192 and the talk page of @Soetermans. I think we need to be wary of our block powers here. ,doktorb _words^deeds 23:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Hey Doktorbuk, thanks for taking action. The IP user had been abusing TheDeviantPro's talk page, which has been edit protected. They sign their messages with "MySuperBelt85", which is a sockpuppeteer. Considering they have stated to continue their abuse, perhaps it's a case for WP:LONG? soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 23:28, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Mathematic formula too long

I have several formulas in my sandbox (MathewsSH/sandbox) for this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datar-Mathews_method_for_real_option_valuation) that are very long. I cannot figure out how to display them in a shorter context. Here is one of the formulas: $C_{0}=E\left(if\langle \left({\tilde {S}}_{1}e^{-Rt_{0}}\geq {\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\right),if\lbrace \left({\tilde {S}}_{2}e^{-Rt_{0}}\geq {\tilde {X}}_{2}e^{-rt_{0}}+{\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\right),\left[max\left({\tilde {S}}_{3}e^{-Rt_{0}}-{\tilde {X}}_{3}e^{-rt_{0}},0\right)-{\tilde {X}}_{2}e^{-rt_{0}}-{\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\right],-{\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\rbrace ,0\rangle \right).$ I have tried several editing techniques including various multi-line formatting (\begin{align} etc.) and line breaks ({br}, etc.). None seem to work as the formula cannot be cut with inducing an error code. Do you have any suggestions? MathewsSH (talk) 23:51, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Scott Mathews

What do you mean by shorter context? Can you use separate math inlines and display them on separate lines? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I assume "in a shorter context" means "on a narrow screeen". Maproom (talk) 09:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@MathewsSH: It appears that \left ( must have a matching \right ) on the same line. How about this:

${\begin{alignedat}{2}C_{0}=E{\Bigl (}&if\langle \left({\tilde {S}}_{1}e^{-Rt_{0}}\geq {\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\right),if\lbrace \left({\tilde {S}}_{2}e^{-Rt_{0}}\geq {\tilde {X}}_{2}e^{-rt_{0}}+{\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\right),\\&\left[max\left({\tilde {S}}_{3}e^{-Rt_{0}}-{\tilde {X}}_{3}e^{-rt_{0}},0\right)-{\tilde {X}}_{2}e^{-rt_{0}}-{\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\right],-{\tilde {X}}_{1}e^{-rt_{0}}\rbrace ,0\rangle {\Bigr )}.\end{alignedat}}$

I used extra big \Bigl( and \Bigr) to give a visual hint that they are matching parentheses on different lines, and I used alignment after "E(" to indicate that E's parameter continues on the next line. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter It worked perfectly. I've copied the solution into my sandbox article.

Also, I guessed there was a mathematician behind your answer - first to understand that it was a complete formula and then to very helpfully suggest the \Bigl( and \Bigr).

(By the way, your website is quite impressive! Igen, tak.) MathewsSH (talk) 18:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Scott Mathews

@PrimeHunter A continuation ... I applied your suggested technique to three other formulas - all with success. Then in a reference section, I have several more long formulas which overrun the reference section's constrained visual space, as follows:

I want to shorten formulas #3 and #4 using your technique by embedding \begin{alignat}{2} ... \end{alignat} within the larger external formatting of \begin{align} ... \end{align}. But this technique fails. What is your suggestion? MathewsSH (talk) 19:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Scott Mathews MathewsSH (talk) 19:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@MathewsSH:I have a math degree from a zillion years ago and forty years' experience with equations in programming languages. I find this equation to be nearly unreadable, regardless of the technical details, so I think the average Wikipedia reader will probably have the same problem. Programmers often solve this problem by using intermediary equations. In particular, your outer block is a function E, with one parameter. its parameter is (as written) the constant i times a function f, which has three parameters f(something1,something2,0) , where something1 is another constant i times a function f of three parameters. To simplify this, I would start with an equation for that inner something2. I would then write an equation for something1. Finally write the final equation. if the intermediate equations are meaningful, you can also add comments for them to assist the reader. -Arch dude (talk) 18:57, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Arch dudeThank you for your reply. Yes, this formula (and several others) are complicated. The formulas are embedded in a much longer, mathematical article that fully explains their derivation with intermediate steps along with images illustrating the salient points. These longer formulas represent 5 U.S. patents, which have extensive documentation, again all referenced in the article.

This article is not for "average Wikipedia reader(s)", but for those professionals involved in the computational finance fields.

Again, thanks for helping out. Given your math and programming background, I may have to call on you again for assistance in the future. Best, MathewsSH (talk) 19:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Scott Mathews

References

@MathewsSH: My interpretation is nested if expressions of form if(exp, a, b) which evaluates to a if exp is true and b otherwise. I agree it's hard to read but I don't know the practice in the field. I don't think long formulas are suited for a reference. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Yes, the prior formula(s) employed 'if' expressions. However, the formula can also be evaluated using a series of probability functions $\mathbb {P}$ (for example, 44%, 20%, ...) multiplied by fractional parts of the multiplicand. In some cases such a fractional structuring of the operation can be better understood to represent the whole (lengthy) formula. In a sense, the fractional representation is a deconstruction of the whole formula. Again, thanks for your input. MathewsSH (talk) 21:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Scott Mathews

December 15

Category: "Banks by year of establishment" and child subcategories should be renamed for clarity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banks_by_year_of_establishment

The lists contained in this category include both banks and credit unions. As credit unions are distinct from banks but provide the same services, the title of the category is imprecise and could be confusing. Either the term "banks" should be changed to "banking institutions" or a new category should be created for credit unions. 63.228.212.200 (talk) 00:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

It might require a community concensus through discussion. Consider create a discussion by following the instructions in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Long article?

I think Economy of India is too long, and has too many sections. I want to know what can I do? Dinesh | Talk 11:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

It is pretty long and has WP:SIZERULE problems with text of well over 100 kB. You could add the Very long template and discuss on the talk page where it might be trimmed.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Dineshswamiin 15,035 words, so per WP:TOOBIG, you're right.

There is a template (see History of Christianity), you can add that. You can WP:BOLDly start working, or try to discuss it at the talkpage first. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Dineshswamiin Many sections of that article use the template {{main}} to indicate that there is already a more detailed article available about the sub-topic. Hence one strategy might be to reduce further the summary nature of what remains in this overview. You might also get some idea from related articles "Economy of [country]" although I suspect that many of them suffer from the same problem. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

How to change my picture that comes up when you google my name?

How do I change my picture that appears when you google my name? It is 7 years old. Merabmma (talk) 17:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Merabmma, us Wikipedia editors don't really have any ability to change what comes up on Google. Maybe try posting this on the Google Help Center? This doesn't really belong on Wikipedia and I doubt there's anyone here who can help you with your problem, but I hope you get it solved. Best regards, TypoEater (talk) 18:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello Merabmma.

1. If there is a Wikipedia article about you (whoever you actually are) with this picture in it, it's likely that Google copies this as well as article text to display in its 'Knowledge graph' panel (or whatever it's called), which can amalgamate data from a variety of sources. If that is the case, that picture in Wikipedia could be replaced with another, and Google might eventually start using that instead, although Wikipedia cannot influence this.
2. If there's a Wikipedia article about you that doesn't have this picture, Google is likely taking it from somewhere else and perhaps combining it with text from the article.
3. If however there is no Wikipedia article about you, this is something completely outside Wikipedia's control, as TypoEater says above.

Note that you have asked this question at the Wikipedia Help desk, which deals with problems specifically about using Wikipedia. It's possible that if 3. is the case, someone might be able to give you advice at the Wikipedia Computing Reference desk, where respondents try to answer questions about that general area of knowledge. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 18:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Interlanguage links.

What is the policy of interlanguage links in English WP? I am a regular contributor in the French pages, and we welcome any outside links that can bring us to information to complement our pages. Sometimes, an article written in another language that doesn't deserve a full page in french has a connection to what is written. Today, I put this interlanguage link, Brad Cole, in the short article Live '88 (Supertramp album). FlightTime immediately reverted and my objections, simply stated, were just ignored in the end. I believe this is a mistake since intead of getting access to this american musician's article, who had a career in France, thus his inclusion on french WP, the info just disappears. Your thoughts? JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 18:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@JeanPaulGRingault As far as I can tell from that article's history you removed that link yourself after FlightTime seemed to change his mind. Interlanguage links are, as you suggest, helpful. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Looks like FlightTime only partially changed his mind. He restored the link to Marty Walsh, but not the interwiki link to Brad Cole. JeanPaulGRingault readded it, but then reverted themself to ask here. --Onorem (talk) 18:32, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Exactly, I wanted to restore my edit, but thought better of it and decided to raise this here instead. But of course, my hand touched the pad and I accidently published it !!! I immediately reverted it. Do you agree with my view or to we leave the name without the link ? JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm putting it back...Thanks JeanPaulGRingault (talk) 21:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

adding spouse

I am married to screenwriter Eric Roth. I want to add this to his profile and link it to my profile but can't seem to do it. Can you help me? Thanks. Dr. Anne Peters Norakit (talk) 22:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)