Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Journalism/Archive 4

Help with the National memo article

Hi. I as for the community help in reviewing The National Memo article. The article has been undergoing dramatic edits and I ask for the assistance in editing/improving this article.

I while ago I was asked to make several minor edits to the article as paid editor (this fact has been clearly stated following all the COI editing rules). At that time the article had minimal content and was no more than a stub. I’ve added some information following the structure of such articles as Salon (website), HuffPost, Politico adding infobox, improving categories and adding well-referenced info. The article started to look more like a normal website/media article.

Then it got heavily edited in 2 waves by editors deleting large chunks of well-written (ok, my personal view :)) and well-referenced information. I believe that some of these edits/deletions are extraneous and actually make the article worse/less useful to Wikipedia users. I also believe that The National Memo article has an undisputable notability. There is an interesting discussion about this at the article’s Talk page.

A lot of what is going on around this article is plain nonsense. Being an ex-journalist, I feel that the edits go beyond the limit of good faith, so if you are interested in improving this article, please take a look at January 10th version or January 29th version. Also if you have any suggestions on improving the article, please share. I am also tagging here Nbauman who wanted to share his point of view on the facts to keep. Thank you in advance. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

There has been a longstanding tradition of elaborating upon publications in Wikipedia. For example, the New York Times article would describe for the reader, under various headings and subheadings, certain aspects of the Times, calling attention to various details of importance (i.e., calling it a "newspaper" versus digital media). Occassionally, other elaborations would follow, including the publication's political leanings and any discussions of whether it leaned right or left. This can be described as "holding the hands of the reader" in that Wikipedia (as the adult) must hold the hands of and guide the reader (as the child) through the article in a manner similar to "Now look here, this part explains what a newspaper is, it is a printed piece of paper," etc. As far as partisan leanings, the hand holding would continue, in a manner similar to "The paper has been known to express liberal leanings, here are some notable examples" etc.

This hand holding can be controversial for obvious reasons, as editors can and do worry about the political leanings of the particular hand doing the holding on behalf of Wikipedia. This is why hand holding which describes the political leanings of publications has traditionally been done only when that publication is well established or otherwise immediately apparent (Der Stürmer for example) and when it does occur, it traditionally has been lower down in the article, not being one of the first things mentioned. As times become increasingly partisan, there has been a renewed sense of the need to hold hands of the reader - in this case, the COI editor believes for the publication the National Memo that this hand holding should be immediate and compulsory, even though the publication itself is relatively young and its leanings not demonstrably apparent. It would seem that this is to skip the traditional safeguards which have been set in place for hand holding of this type. Spintendo      19:08, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Incoming links from Facebook

Hello, all, I thought people at this WikiProject might be particularly interested in this announcement. As I understand it, Facebook's news stories will be linking to Wikipedia articles about the newspapers that they originate from.

BTW, User:Harej keeps an up-to-date list of users who frequently edit related articles for most WikiProjects. You can see the list for your group at Wikipedia:WikiProject Directory/Description/WikiProject Journalism. Some of them might be interested in this news as well, or might know people who are likely to be interested. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• @Whatamidoing (WMF): Thank you for the heads up! Will definitely be good to keep a close eye on this in the coming weeks. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 10:24, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Drmies, MrX, Chrissymad, Fram, Jayron32, and The Wordsmith: I think you all might like to be in the loop in this too... — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 10:30, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
    • @GoldenRing: Messed up your ping... — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 10:31, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
      • Keep a look-out for more disruption on articles about the publishers, I guess. This is going to have a difficult interaction with AP2 DS - I think we're likely to see lots of new editors coming to "correct" information about a publisher where we wouldn't normally see the publisher's page as falling under the AP2 topic. Does the fact Facebook uses the information to inform readers of the publisher's reliability on political topics push the article into the AP2 topic? Does the fact that editors are disrupting a page for political purposes even though the page hasn't an immediately obvious political connection push that page into the AP2 topic? GoldenRing (talk) 11:01, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks for the heads up. I'm actually more concerned about WMF working closely with Facebook to track visitors than I am about the impact that those visitors will have on our content. New and newly-resurrected SPA editors coming here to "correct" content has been an ongoing issue for roughly the past 1-2 years.- MrX 🖋 11:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

• Interesting. I saw those little icons for "information" but hadn't yet pursued. Thanks Coffee. Drmies (talk) 15:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
• Something that strikes me is that this will put a lot more attention on the first two sentences of the publisher articles. Looking at them in my Facebook feed, I find that they frequently include only very routine identification data and often don't contain any information that users will find valuable. E. g., here is NBC News:

NBC News is the news division of the American broadcast television network NBC, formerly known as the National Broadcasting Company when it was founded on radio. The division operates under NBCUniversal News Group, a subsidiary of NBCUniversal, in turn a subsidiary of Comcast....

And here is Fox News:

Fox News (officially known as the Fox News Channel, commonly abbreviated to FNC) is an American basic cable and satellite television news channel owned by the Fox Entertainment Group, a subsidiary of 21st Century Fox. The channel broadcasts primarily from studios at 1211 Avenue of the Americas, New York City, New York.

I'm not sure just what should be in this first graph, but I'm pretty sure the fact that Fox broadcasts from studio 1211 is not the lede people need. I wonder if folks in this project will find it desirable to think about our guidance re. what should be in the first paragraph? Jmatazzoni (talk) 16:58, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

New kind of Set Index Article

Animalparty has set up a new kind of set index article, to be list articles of newspapers with the same name, e.g., List of newspapers named Globe. Feel free to expand such list articles. Thanks! —hike395 (talk) 01:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Consensus-seeking discussion notice

Notifying project members of a consensus discussion taking place at Talk:Trump–Russia dossier. Discussion is currently found in sub-section titled Seeking consensus to restore content challenged by _____. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 00:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

New page

Hello. I put up a stub page for the Pennsylvania Evening Post, the first newspaper to print the U.S. Declaration of Independence, and if editors would like to add to it that'd be "revolutionary". Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:16, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

RfC notification

There is an RfC at the Trump-Russia dossier talk page found here that members of this project might interested in taking part in. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 01:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Shah Marai

Please, let's dig for a non-free Shah Marai image. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:06, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Wiki4MediaFreedom

Hi. please take a look on meta at this page m:Wiki4MediaFreedom contest. it's an event organized by Rossella Vignola (OBC), there is a list of articles to improve also on English wikipedia.--Alexmar983 (talk) 20:10, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Sources for Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market

Please join the discussion on what sources would be adequate for what claims on this time-sensitive article. We have the problem that countless sources point in the same direction, but the usual sources for such aggregate information fail to provide it. --Nemo 07:11, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

American journalists a non-diffusing category?

Category:American journalists was tagged on 2018-03-18 as a non-diffusing category by 142.161.81.20 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), which as far as I can tell is consistent with similar categories -- we generally categorize people by occupation, and place them concurrently in other categories based on gender, ethnicity, religion, etc., without removing them from the nationality-occupation category. At WP:DUPCAT the guideline says "Subcategories defined by gender, ethnicity, religion, and sexuality should almost always be non-diffusing subcategories." This is expanded on in the guidelines at Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality.

So Ser Amantio di Nicolao has just removed several hundred bios from category:American journalists with no edit summary -- I'm assuming the reason is because they are members of category:Jewish American journalists or or something? If that is the reason I think they need to be reverted. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:30, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

So, the ones I removed are either in subcategories such as the subcategories of Category:American journalists by state or the subcategories of Category:American journalists by type. My removals had nothing to do with categorization by gender or ethnicity; everything I removed should be in one of the diffusing subcategories. (That's the way, for instance, Category:American novelists and its subcategories have been handled over the years.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:47, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Wiki4MediaFreedom contest

Hello, the Wiki4MediaFreedom contest is running and will last until the 15th of July. You can either improve or update articles in English or translate articles from English to Italian, Albanian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian or Montenegrin (see the rules). The prizes are online gift voucher. See Meta for more information. --Niccolò Caranti (OBC) (talk) 07:44, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

The Daily Telegraph

Many wikilinks to The Daily Telegraph should be changed to The Daily Telegraph (Sydney). If you can help to identify them, please reply at WT:WikiProject Newspapers#The Daily Telegraph. Thanks, Certes (talk) 22:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Proposed corrections and updates to the Ezra Klein article

Resolved

Hello! On behalf of Vox Media, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I've proposed some corrections and updates for the Ezra Klein article here. I've identified inaccuracies, suggested specific wording, and provided reference markup for easier implementation. Are any WikiProject Journalism participants willing to take a look and update the article appropriately? I do not edit the main space directly because of my conflict of interest. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:59, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

This edit request has been answered. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, another editor removed the "Personal life" section, which mentions his marriage to Annie Lowrey, altogether. I've submitted a talk page request to return mention of their marriage, if any project members care to weigh in or update the article appropriately. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 22:53, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

List of journalists killed in Europe

Hi! I've just created a List of journalists killed in Europe, divided by country. If there are no objections I am also planning to create circa 20 redirects such as List of journalists killed in France > List of journalists killed in Europe#France. There already were articles about Russia and Turkey, and a section about Ukraine (I've linked them with {{See also}}), but it probably doesn't make sense to create autonomous articles on other European countries. --Niccolò Caranti (OBC) (talk) 08:53, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done: I've created the redirects. --Niccolò Caranti (OBC) (talk) 08:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Looks good! I added tags to the articles without their own articles such as Russia, Ukraine and Tajikistan and copyedited article. Shushugah (talk) 13:16, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Jewish Newspaper cleanup

Hello, I boldly merged List of Jewish newspapers in the United States to List of Jewish newspapers, while creating articles and editing existing ones as needed. Many of the articles are stubs/low class. I would love more eyes on this. Additionally, for the important ones, creations of infoboxes and copyediting could be useful. Shushugah (talk) 16:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Request for Comment - Including China's stance on Hamas

Please join the discussion and give your needed opinion on whether to include China's position in the article Hamas. Veritycheck✔️ (talk) 13:12, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Mark Judge (writer) for deletion

Resolved

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mark Judge (writer) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Judge (writer) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Sagecandor (talk) 02:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Wiki4MediaFreedom contest - II edition

Hello! I'm happy to announce that Osservatorio Balcani e Caucaso Transeuropa, with which I'm working, is launching today the II edition of the Wiki4MediaFreedom contest. You can participate by writing articles in the media freedom topic, with particular attention to the access to public information and killed journalists. There's time until November 30th. More information on Meta. --Niccolò Caranti (OBC) (talk) 15:00, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Bot to improve names of media sources in references

Hi everyone! I just wanted to draw your attention to a recent proposal I made for a bot. I'll copy the request below:

Many references on Wikipedia point to large media organizations such as the New York Times. However, the names are often abbreviated, not italicized, and/or missing links to the media organization. I'd like to propose a bot that could go to an article like this one and automatically replace "NY Times" with "New York Times". Other large media organizations (e.g. BBC, Washington Post, and so on) could fairly easily be added, I imagine.

Any thoughts or help would be appreciated! - Sdkb (talk) 00:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Chequebook journalism expansion

I've expanded and updated the Chequebook journalism article, and could use some suggestions on things like adding categories, adding a quality and importance rating, or any other editing or improvement ideas. The article was originally tagged as being Australia-centric, which I think is now fixed. I'm planning on editing the lead next to incorporate some of the new body text. Thanks in advance for anyone's time in reviewing it.--Light show (talk) 22:29, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

I'll take a very quick look. If you're looking to add perspectives from some U.S. sources, this podcast episode might be useful.

A discussion folks here may be interested in

Hi everyone, I've started a discussion that you all might be interested in, so just wanted to flag it here: Wikipedia_talk:External_links#Adding_guidance_on_external_links_to_media_outlets_of_record?. - Sdkb (talk) 00:13, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Om Thanvi

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Om Thanvi.  — fr ⁺ 09:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

The Verge updates

Resolved

Hello again! I've been working to update the Wikipedia article for The Verge on behalf of Vox Media and as part of my work at Beutler Ink. User:Lordtobi has been responding to my talk page requests, but they're currently experiencing health issues. Lordtobi has been very helpful, but now I'm wondering if another editor can help by reviewing my talk page requests. Currently, there's one posted here to update the "Video content" section: Talk:The_Verge#Requests_for_"Video_content"_section.

I have a few more updates in mind, but I prefer to submit shorter, straightforward requests in a series, so they don't take too long to review or implement. Are any members of WikiProject Journalism willing to help out? Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

This request has been answered. Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 18:03, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Ida Tarbell GAN

Hello all. I've reviewed Ida Tarbell at GAN and found it's pretty close to good but the original nominator appears to be on a wikibreak. Planning to leave it open for another seven days if someone else wants to take a crack. see here. —Ed!^(talk) 22:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Nonfree logos in newspaper infoboxes

Nonfree logos cannot be used in the same infobox as a sample front page; it's one or the other. This was previously discussed here and was recently endorsed here. I've been removing some of the redundant and noncompliant images from infoboxes; it'd be great to get some help. --MarchOrDie (talk) 13:56, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

• I've removed a few of them. If folks could please refrain from adding any more pending a consensus that they are a good thing (or even a consensus that they are justifiable fair use), that would be amazing. The instructions at the template do say not to do this. --MarchOrDie (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

OK. But at Hamodia, you just replaced a fair-use logo with a fair-use front page. What's the difference, licensing-wise? Yoninah (talk) 22:29, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

No, look again. I replaced two fair use images with one fair use image. The consensus is that one is ok but two is excessive. --MarchOrDie (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't see how removing valid logos (especially those in PD-ineligible form) is worth spending time and energy on, especially when supported by sporadic discussion over a decade-long period. Call a proper RfC, will ya? SounderBruce 23:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Great idea. If you want to change the longstanding consensus that's definitely your best move. What is it that you think having the logo twice achieves exactly? --MarchOrDie (talk) 23:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Some articles lack front page images, others use front pages that don't clearly display the logo (or have it very small, which makes it pointless). Website articles include both the logo and a screenshot, and we should follow suit. SounderBruce 23:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate this being brought up, and I tend to agree with SounderBruce that there's not much point in rushing ahead without discussing a bit more first. I also don't know that a full-blown RfC is worthwhile until we've more done a bit more evaluation of what issues and precedents are involved.

In the case of Hamodia, I don't think the logo is under copyright. Unless I'm mistaken, it should simply be moved to Commons, and labeled with the textlogo licensing template. I would imagine this will be the same in the case of a great many newspaper logos, which have perhaps been labeled as "fair use" due to an inaccurate assessment of their copyright status.

Glad to see this issue brought up, and I hope we can discuss a bit more before forging ahead with substantial article-space action. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

More detail on simple text logos here: commons:Commons:Licensing#Simple design -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:50, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

In the case of The Stranger, the logo is already on Commons, marked as public domain, and has been since 2011. So this one is quite clearly not a violation of the consensus you cited, MarchOrDie. Again, I urge discussion, so we don't have to get into stuff like WP:3RR. I'm confident we can figure out a path forward we can all agree with. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:56, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

One thing to note is that prematurely removing non-free logos means that they get scooped up for automatic deletion by the bot (e.g. File:Tacoma News Tribune logo.svg). We should restore the status quo and discuss things first so that the vector non-free logos aren't lost forever. SounderBruce 04:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The either/or choice of logo vs. front page is longstanding but it has not actually obtained a community consensus. As discussed here, the results after more than a decade are inconclusive. I would like to see this question raised at RfC because it affects a very large number of pages, many of which are very high profile. I think a hi-res masthead should always take precedence over a lo-res front page, for purposes of quality and easy identification. I question the need for a front page at all, given how subjective the choice can be: some are current, some are a century old; some are a paper's most anodyne, some are its most notorious. Is it worth it to hash this out on all these talkpages, when we could simply go with a masthead? Front page choices will be continuously re-litigated as times go by, while a firm decision in favor of logos/mastheads would save a lot of arguments and wasted productivity among editors. SteveStrummer (talk) 01:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree with SteveStrummer about masthead/logo only. It gives quick and easy identification of the product at the top of the infobox. Yoninah (talk) 17:52, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

I do like having the front pages if they are representative of normal/day-to-day content. It's a pretty easy way of giving users an idea of how the newspaper presents itself (as they can literally judge the book by the cover). SounderBruce 08:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

So how will we resolve this? The user who made many edits based on their interpretation, some of which had inaccurate or even threatening edit summaries, has not (yet?) returned to discuss. I respect that there are divergent interpretations of policy, and divergent opinions about what best serves the reader. How should we resolve this?

I would suggest as a starting point that the bulk of the logo removals should be reverted, pending further discussion. It seems to me that most were removed on the basis of flawed logic, as described above (i.e., most of the logos are not actually copyrighted or copyrightable). Removals based merely on aesthetic judgment (i.e., it looks bad to have both a logo and a front page) shouldn't, in my view, be made en masse, but should be discussed first, either article-by-article or in a central place like this. Thoughts? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:22, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

The policy regarding front page images was inserted in 2014 into Template:Infobox newspaper/doc. This was justified by this one-on-one discussion at the Template:Infobox newspaper talkpage. Considering the wide impact, this issue needs a community consensus at RfC. SteveStrummer (talk) 02:06, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Pinging John and Ssolbergj to join this discussion, and leaving notice at the template talkpage as well. SteveStrummer (talk) 02:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

IMO it's best to do as much processing ahead of filing an RfC as practical... so as to present the issues in as clear a way as possible to the wider community. And the aesthetic side of it -- that is, what to do when the logo is copyright free/public domain -- seems like one that's better decided by people who care about newspaper articles, than seeking community-wide consensus.

Maybe drafting an RfC statement here, with a week or so for input from those in this discussion/WikiProject, would be a good step? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 03:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

The question put forth in this particular section was "Can nonfree logos be used alongside nonfree cover images?" The answer is No: only one nonfree image may be used to illustrate a page. But free logos were being removed as well (like here and elsewhere) because of the wording in the template. There never was a consensus to have such wording, and I think the first step should be removing it from the template doc — which I plan to do in one week absent any objection here. Logos and covers have coexisted in Template:Infobox magazine and Template:Infobox website since dragon days and there's no reason why they shouldn't here. Ultimately the question for RfC will be: When both logo and cover are nonfree, what illustration is most appropriate? SteveStrummer (talk) 02:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

After waiting an extra couple of days, I removed the disputed guideline. Now we have to decide what to do when both image options are non-free. Alongside that, we have suggestions to simply drop the use of one or the other entirely. Currently image options are a matter of editorial discretion on a case by case basis, but I think it's time we developed a firm policy by consensus. Can we settle this here or should we have an RfC? SteveStrummer (talk) 22:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Tennessee Tribune

The Tennessee Tribune needs a major expansion, if anyone is interested. The publisher received an award last month and she probably passes GNG to have her own article as well.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

WP 1.0 Bot Beta

Hello! Your WikiProject has been selected to participate in the WP 1.0 Bot rewrite beta. This means that, starting in the next few days or weeks, your assessment tables will be updated using code in the new bot, codenamed Lucky. You can read more about this change on the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team page. Thanks! audiodude (talk) 06:46, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Tony Kornheiser/GA1

Hi all, I've been reviewing Talk:Tony Kornheiser/GA1, and completed the review. There's a few issues with the prose, but the nominator is away (last posted early last month). Would anyone be interested in looking at the nom? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Comments sought

Hello everybody. I've started a discussion about an edit to the article Stop Funding Hate and I'd appreciate any comments. The discussion is here: Talk:Stop Funding Hate#"Finances" section. -- Polly Tunnel (talk) 12:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Request for comments on List of Photographers

You are invited to join the discussion regarding edits to List of Photographers. The discussion is addressing the following questions:

• Within each section, should the entries by sorted alphabetically or chronologically?
• Should date of birth and date of death be added to entries?
  • Should nationality, date of birth, and date of death information be supported using reliable sources if that information is in the entry's corresponding article?
• Is the Photographers' Identity Catalog (PIC) a reliable source for nationality, date of birth, and date of death?
  • If a source is deemed reliable, should there be a limit on how many times it is used?

Your contributions are welcome. Thank you! Qono (talk) 15:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Carlos Slim's ownership of The New York Times

With all the talk about foreign interference, it seems odd to me that Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim is barely mentioned in The New York Times (only in the infobox). I believe it should be added to the lede, and there should be a subsection about his stake (when he acquired it, how much he owns, and what the public reactions have been). I think we need to be mindful to use very reliable third-party sources to make sure the content is neutral. Is anyone interested in working on this please?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

There is quite a bit at The New York Times Company#Carlos Slim loan and investment. Perhaps this content could be copied and pasted? Most of our readers will only read The New York Times, not The New York Times Company, so we are currently doing them a disservice. We are supposed to edit for them!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:26, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I think it'd be worth mentioning briefly in a sentence somewhere in the body of the article, but unless there's evidence that Slim's involvement has affected the Times in an editorial capacity, I don't think it'd be appropriate to add as much as is in the company article, and not in the introductory section. - Sdkb (talk) 15:53, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I think it should be in the lede, just as (American) billionaire Jeff Bezos is in the lede of The Washington Post. As far as I can tell, Carlos Slim is a foreign national with a significant stake in the American "newspaper of record"...that sounds like foreign interference to me. (Does he have a green card?) Of course, any wealthy foreign national with investments in the U.S. exerts foreign interference/influence in U.S. society, but that is the reality of globalization. To your point, are there interviews with Slim telling us how he feels about the editorial line of his newspaper? And does it matter? I don't think Bezos necessarily controls what WP journalists publish.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Are foreign nationals stakeholders in many US firms? Yes, they are. Do they get identified in the lead sections of those companies' articles? Almost never, and certainly not without a clear reason. If no reason can be given for singling out Slim as opposed to any other NYT owner, then this is deep body content, and the other owners should be mentioned too. SteveStrummer (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I think we should follow the same pattern as The Washington Post, where billionaire investor Bezos is mentioned in the lede. After all, Slim has been the owner of a significant stake of The New York Times since 2015. You make a good point about foreign influence in U.S. society through corporate investments, and it is particularly relevant with newspapers, as they manipulate our perceptions of reality by publishing "the news", including political speech--and remember The New York Times is supposedly America's "newspaper of record"!Zigzig20s (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm not all that knowledgeable about business structures, but I'd imagine that there's quite a difference between having a 17% stake in a company and owning a company, so I'm not sure it's appropriate to make a direct comparison between the NYT and WaPo. - Sdkb (talk) 21:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I made no such point about "foreign influence" much less "manipulation". I said foreign stakeholders are common among US firms - just like American stakeholders are common among foreign firms. There is nothing remarkable about this. SteveStrummer (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Help with independent review

Hi,

The article Jonathan Swan has an advert tag, with a discussion at Talk:Jonathan_Swan#Advert User: Ronz has requested an independent review of this issue now that the article has been through a couple of rounds of edits and the discussion seems concluded. Ronz agreed with my suggestion that I post a request for someone in the Journalism Project to do the review. Many thanks to whomever might have the time to take a look. Cheers, BC1278 (talk) 21:23, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Carlo Casalegno

Please see Talk:Carlo_Casalegno#Verification_and_notability. --Niccolò Caranti (OBC) (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for Comment on Facebook

There is an RfC on Facebook at Talk:Facebook#RfC_on_inclusion_on_HuffPo_source's_claims that may be of interest to members of this project. Thanks. BC1278 (talk) 16:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Please review draft article about journalist Sarah Jones

Hello! I am working on a draft article about journalist Sarah Jones, founder of the Remembering Fallen Journalists movement. I would appreciate input from members of this project. The draft is located here: Draft:Sarah_Jones_(journalist) Thank you! DanDavidCook (talk) 20:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Requested changes at Piano Media

I would like to create a Wikipedia page for my company, but our logo and additional information is being used on a page for a former company (acquired during a merger) with a similar name. Would someone here consider making the edits I’ve requested at Talk:Piano_Media (at the bottom) per the conflict of interest rules, so that the page about Piano Media no longer uses the Piano Software logo and other information? Lisa at Piano (talk) 20:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Charles Dickens for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Charles Dickens is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Charles Dickens until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:55, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

RT (formerly Russia Today)

Hello. You are invited to participate in two related RfCs: Talk:5G#RfC:Russian disinformation and Talk:RT (TV network)#RfC:Propaganda. R2 (bleep) 18:28, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Arun Budhathoki

This page is under proposed deletion even though he is a journalist. Please check. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozar77 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Kathmandu Tribune

It is an independent news media from Nepal and some editors are not happy that it is not a mainstream media. SO aren't new independent media qualified to have a page? please help out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozar77 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Nepal Tribune Media

It is a new media and runs Kathmandu Tribune and yet so-called editors have proposed deletion. I do not understand why independent media and journalists have to fight for their place in Wikipedia. Please check. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozar77 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussions of interest

There are a number of discussions on Talk:James Martin (priest, born 1960) which may be of interest to the members of this group, in particular this RfC. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Missing in list American Newsreader... DEBRA NORVILLE

Where is DEBRA NORVILLE? 2600:8801:7F03:300:40CF:9EEA:7293:F983 (talk) 20:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Do you perhaps mean Deborah Norville? —hike395 (talk) 06:31, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Please make opinion on Pozareport.si

This is an invitation. Wikipedians who are not from Slovenia are kindly invited to read Pozareport.si and decide whether to delete or keep it. This media published articles that triggered resignations of three government ministers and some other officials within last year alone. It is a politically sensitive media outlet and local users may be biased. Moreover, local users keep vandalising it and deleting sections. nomos2019 (talk) 14:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Rfc on James Martin (priest, born 1960)

There is an open RfC at Talk:James_Martin_(priest,_born_1960)#Request_for_Comment_2 that may be of interest to this community. --PluniaZ (talk) 21:55, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Move request

There is a requested move at Talk:Man bites dog (journalism) that would benefit from your opinion. Please come and help! PI Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 17:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

RfC on reliability of Sixth Tone

There is a request for comment on the reliability of the online magazine Sixth Tone. If you are interested, please participate at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § RfC: Sixth Tone. — Newslinger talk 02:37, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

COI Edit Request

Hello, I am proposing extensive restructuring of the Earth Journalism Network page to address existing issues and bring it up to Wikipedia's standards. However, as an editor with a COI my requested edits have been declined, and I have instead been asked to discuss with editors engaged in the subject-area. It can be viewed at my second sandbox at User:Theintern007/sandbox2. Thank you in advance for looking over my request. Any feedback is appreciated. Theintern007 (talk) 19:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priashevshchina

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priashevshchina. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 07:45, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Reviving WikiProject Newspapers

I have revived the related Wikipedia:WikiProject Newspapers pages. Please join us! We are trying a top down approach by having the Lists of newspapers complete with a list for every country. The United States states and sovereign countries in Asia, South America, and Europe lists have completed lists to a first order with sourcing. We could use some help with a few countries in North America, Africa, Oceania, as well as states with limited recognition, dependencies, and other territories with newspapers. There are several U.S. states with extensive lists of current and defunct newspapers and articles on many notable newspapers, including List of newspapers in Washington, D.C., Newspapers founded in Washington, D.C. during the 18th- and 19th-centuries, List of newspapers in Minnesota and List of newspapers in North Carolina. Considerable progress has also been made on African American newspapers, also. Please join us and put Wikipedia:WikiProject Directory/Description/WikiProject Newspapers on your watch list.

G. Moore 11:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Press Photo Archives

A review of this draft is requested. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:06, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

How would a person find information about an e-edition?

I have a red link in an article about a newspaper and don't know where it should redirect to. The concept of E-edition might even be able to have its own article. A Google search will just give you e-editions of individual newspapers but it won't explain what that is or its history, although some of the results did have the explanation of what the individual newspaper's e-edition was, which is an online replica of what the newspaper looks like, or would look like. I say would look like because some newspapers have begun not publishing on a particular day or days of the week and instead are giving subscribers something online that looks like the newspaper would look if there was one on that day.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Impact of COVID-19 on journalism

Given that we have articles as specific as ones like Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on Disney, and that I haven't yet put in the time/been able to persuade others to expand the scope of Misinformation related to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic to include coverage of all aspects of information dissemination related to the virus (which would allow the article to more easily note things like newspapers lowering paywalls), I think it's past time we create Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on journalism. This would cover the financial struggles of newspapers, as already covering in places like 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States#Publishing, as well as how journalists have shifted the types of reporting they're doing, etc. It'll be linked from 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in the "information dissemination" section (which is mostly misinformation, but does have a broader scope, unlike the misinfo article itself). Anyone want to help write it? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Update: it's now a stub, but the link is only barely blue. Help expanding it would be useful! {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

RFC at Oscar Wilde

There's an RFC underway at Talk:Oscar Wilde:

What is the best option for the lead image (See MOS:LEADIMAGE)?

Your participation would be welcome! Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Propaganda

There is currently an ongoing debate regarding the head image on Propaganda [1] Do join in, ty, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 16:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Merger proposal regarding NSO Group and Pegasus (spyware)

Talk:NSO_Group#Merger_proposal:_merge_Pegasus_(spyware)_into_the_appropriate_section_of_NSO_Group Notrium (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

RfC on misinformation visual for COVID-19 pandemic

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:COVID-19 pandemic#RfC: Misinformation visual. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

A.G. Sulzberger updates

Resolved

Hello! On behalf of The New York Times Company as part of my work at Beutler Ink (I've disclosed my COI appropriately), I've proposed some updates to the entry for A.G. Sulzberger, who serves as publisher of The New York Times. One editor helped me to update the Providence Journal and The Oregonian subsections, as well as part of the New York Times subsection, but has asked for others to review the most recent request to update the second half of the New York Times subsection. In my request, I've outlined specific updates and proposed markup changes in my user space for easier copying and pasting. Is a member of WikiProject Journalism willing to review the request and update the article on my behalf? Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

This request has been answered. Inkian Jason (talk) 15:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Move request – List of underground newspapers

Your feedback would be appreciated at List of underground newspapers#Requested move 23 July 2020. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

No article for editorial firewall

This seems like a pretty important topic. Would anyone be interested in writing a page for it? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 06:42, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

RSN RFC on South China Morning Post

I started an RFC on the South China Morning Post on the RSN at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#South_China_Morning_Post_(and_Lin_Nguyen,_a_fabricated_writer). At the very minimum Wikipedia:Perennial sources should tell people not to use articles by "Lin Nguyen" as it's a fabricated persona. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

RE: Debate on creating a Chris Mullin disambiguation page (now it automatically leads to the basketball player)

Right now, the Chris Mullin page automatically leads to the basketball player - at the same time, there is a Chris Mullin (politician) - the one who led the fight to release the Birmingham Six and vote A Very British Coup (which was adapted to a TV series).

I've started a discussion on the talk page there, requesting to rename the basketball player page to Chris Mullin (basketball), and make the Chris Mullin page a disambiguation page with equal representation to both of them.

Arguments raised against my proposal:

• The basketball player has more views.

My main argument for the move:

• The basketball player gets most of his views from the US, while outside the US he's hardly known, and in Britain itself the politician-author Chris Mullin is much better known.

I invite you guys to take part in the discussion.

The link: Talk:Chris Mullin#Requested move 22 August_2020.

Thank you! Maxim.il89 (talk) 19:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Infobox newspaper § "Free online archives"

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox newspaper § "Free online archives". {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

List of editors-in-chief for student newspapers

Should there be separate lists of editors-in-chief for student newspapers as with Draft:List of Editor-in-Chiefs of The Daily Collegian? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

AngusWOOF, I don't think it should be in a separate article, but I could see it being useful information for within an article. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 09:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Help updating New York Times Company articles

As mentioned above, I'm currently working to update a few entries related to The New York Times Company. I've submitted a request here to note role changes for Meredith Kopit Levien and Mark Thompson. I've posted similar requests on their respective talk pages (here and here). I'm not editing the pages directly because of my COI. Can a member of WikiProject Journalism review these requests and update the pages on my behalf? Inkian Jason (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I've also posted a request here to improve the Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr. article, if a project member is willing to take a look. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Webinar on Friday Sept. 11

All, this is rather last-minute, but if you're free, you may enjoy attending a webinar tomorrow launching Phase 2 of News On Wiki. We'll be talking with librarians Jessamyn West and Molly Schwartzburg, about how to build lists (of newspapers that need articles, and of source materials for writing articles). Hope you can join us! Free registration & all info here. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Can somebody look at John Sepulvado bio?

I've found several items in the bio of John Sepulvado that initially seemed unsourced, and upon further digging appear they are likely simply untrue: a claim he was a founder of a radio station, and tenuous or nonexistent connections to two awards that appeared in the bio. I've removed them, and put some more details on the article's talk page. More eyes would be helpful. Pinging Aprilaser and Kaldari who were involved early on this bio. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

The Australian Financial Review

Hi guys, I'm currently a university student working on the Australian Financial Review article. I would be grateful if you could give me some pointers as what more I could include and also if the article could bet let in (?) to the wikiproject's scope. The AFR is the biggest business journalism paper in Australia (think WSJ equivalent in the US) and thus I think it would be a great addition. Lebronverstappen (talk) 23:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

John A Adam

Hi. I have been updating and expanding numerous stub articles since I joined. I have been looking at the BLP on John A Adam. Something isn't right, I may be wrong, but except for writing for the NY Times (which is behind a paywall) and Scientific American, I can find nothing to support any of the claims. Even the reference to a book...Could someone please take a look at it? I'm still a newbie and not sure what I should do, so I thought a message here might help. Thanks.Mollifiednow (talk) 03:41, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Mollifiednow this is great. My public library offers archives of the NY Times, so I can search there. Your instincts sound right to me, but I'll see what I if I can find any relevant info before taking action. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 06:04, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Have a great day! Mollifiednow (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 November 11 § File:Elbegdorj.JPG

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 November 11 § File:Elbegdorj.JPG. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:37, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Neue Zürcher Zeitung

"The NZZ is known for its objectivity and detailed reports on international affairs". Is this still the case? The referenced cited for this statement in the article is from 1959. Graywalls (talk) 01:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Good point. I usually handle that sort of thing by just attributing in the test, like this. (Quick edit, please feel free to rephrase.) -Pete Forsyth (talk) 21:54, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

The Times of India

The Times of India is shown as politically 'no consensus'. But I believe that in non-political matters, it should be graded as Huffpost, where the articles by contributors should be 'gu' and for editorial non-political mattters- 'gr'. Please comment by joining the discussion in [2].--Atlantis77177 (talk) 04:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Aligning the differing notability guidelines on news media

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability § Aligning WP:Notability (periodicals), WP:Notability (media), and WP:Notability (academic journals). {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Brooke Foucault Wellees

 Courtesy link: Draft:Brooke Foucault Welles

Hi, I did a draft for an article about Dr. Foucault Welles, a network scientist who studies behaviors on twitter. THe first try it got marked for speedy deletion due to copyright concerns (I am new to Wikipedia and didn't understand the rules) so I fixed it, and now I would like the big red message to go away. Can anyone help me/does anyone have any advice? I'm really stressed out about it. Thanks, Luvbug3158 (talk) 19:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm fairly new here too, but I'm pretty sure you should ask this type of question at the Teahouse. Welcome and Good luck! Mollifiednow (talk) 21:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Luvbug3158, I tagged the draft with two issues that I'd suggest you address before trying to submit the page. The notability one is particularly important—if coverage of Dr. Welles does not exist that can establish that she meets the WP:NACADEMICS guideline, she will not be able to have a page. Once you've addressed those things, paste the code {{subst:Submit}} onto the top of the page, and it will be reviewed. Further information is at Help:Your first page, and as Luvbug mentioned, you are welcome to seek additional help at the Teahouse. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help! Luvbug3158 (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Phill Feltham

Please fix this stub, or it risks deletion. Bearian (talk) 21:37, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I just took a look, and I'm curious about what do you think is notable about the individual? Mollifiednow (talk) 00:15, 18 December 2020 (UTC) Just to be clear, I thought I might be able to help out, but after doing a quick search and couldn't come up with suitable sources. If you can give me additional information about the subject and point me in the right direction, I am willing to help out, if you can answer my question about what makes him notable.:-) Mollifiednow (talk) 00:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC) Actually, User:Bearian cancel my offer. From what I see, more than half of the article is copied and pasted from his LinkedIn page. Personally, I think it should be nominated for deletion. But since I'm still fairly new here, I'll leave that for someone else to make the call. Best-Mollifiednow (talk) 01:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Actually,, I think it should be deleted. Bearian (talk) 17:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

-) Mollifiednow (talk) 20:27, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request

Hi. I know that I could ask this question at the Teahouse, however, I'd like to get feedback from WikiProject Journalism, since this is what I focus on.

I have expanded numerous articles, and think I'm on the right track, but I'm at a point where I could use some feedback on areas of improvement. For example: I just finished expanding the BLP for Chuck Neubauer and I'm having second thoughts on the subsection "Washington Times reporting". Have I added too much detail? If so, should I remove it?

I would really appreciate it if someone with more experience, could take the time and look at the article, or any of the articles that I have worked on (they're listed on my userpage). I'm looking for any advice on how I can improve on my contributions. To be clear, I'm not fishing for compliments, I really want to do a good job here, and care about what this project offers to its readers. Thanks, Mollifiednow (talk) 21:30, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mollifiednow! I just took a look and made a bunch of edits (mostly tweaks) to Neubauer's page that should give you an idea of potential improvements. Regarding the Washington Times section, yes, that seems like way too much detail. Unless the story is Watergate, it should really only have a paragraph or so in a biography article. And to the extent that we discuss the story, the topic needs to be the article itself, not the topic of the article. So don't just summarize the article with only the article itself as the reference. Instead, discuss how he went about reporting the article, what reactions or impact the article had, etc. If there's no discussion of the article in reliable sources, it probably doesn't warrant anything more than something like Neubauer wrote a report for The Washington Times raising ethical concerns about Diane Feinstein's husband allegedly profiting from the financial crisis. "Allegedly" is probably needed to be safe, given that The Washington Times is considered only marginally reliable. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:51, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the input. I appreciate you taking the time to help me out. I'll go take a look at your changes, and go from there. As to the Washington Time, yep. ;-) The articles seem to have quite the hook, but on further reading, well, no need to say more... Thanks again! Mollifiednow (talk) 23:54, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Article Expansion

Hi. I just finished expanding an article, Lenoir Chambers. I had expanded on an earlier article about Louis Isaac Jaffe, who was at the same organization, and found the Chambers article needed expanding. Later, when I took a look at my stats page, I noticed the article on Chambers was listed as stub-class, however, there was no stub template on the article, and of course, nothing to remove. I thought someone might want to take a look-see at why. Thanks- Mollifiednow (talk) 00:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

More on my comment about the article (above), I looked at the talk page, and it is listed as a stub class article there. I'm still new to a lot of things here, should I delete it? Would that be in-line with what I can do at the level that I am? Sorry, I'm just not sure and it's difficult to know exactly what is okay to do at my experience level. I really wish there were a "Dummies" guide for this kind of stuff ;-) Mollifiednow (talk) 04:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Mollifiednow, I just reassessed the article to C-class. For future reference, you can reassess any article, including ones you're written/contributed to, up to B-class. More information is at Wikipedia:Content assessment; I definitely agree with you that I wish our documentation/instructions were better! {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:03, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I didn't realize that I was able to do so. I will take the time to go read, and learn. I appreciate your quick response. Have a great day.Mollifiednow (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I have another question. I started going back to the articles that I expanded and revising the stub tags, (most will be start class). I'm only changing the rating on journalism templates. Am I correct in assuming that other WikiProjects are responsible for their own ratings? Thanks in advance for your help.Mollifiednow (talk) 02:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Mollifiednow, sorry, just seeing this now. When I reassess a page, I typically change the rating for all projects, not just the one that brought me to the page. Most projects aren't active enough to be regularly reassessing pages, so I chalk up differences to the fact that the page may have changed since it was last assessed. Eventually, I hope that every page will just have one assessment, rather than a bunch from individual WikiProjects. It's hard enough to keep 6 million ratings up to date, let alone 6 million * the average number of tags on each page. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

No problem :) I think I'm sensible enough to change the others as well, unless, of course, I'm not permitted to at my level(?) as an editor. If it's ok, let me know. I have a list of maybe 100 biographies, and don't mind going back and updating others. Best-Mollifiednow (talk) 23:44, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

There are some parts of Wikipedia that are highly developed, where it's better to stick your toes in gently to avoid messing anything up. As I alluded a bit above, article assessment is absolutely not one of them; it's very much in need of attention. So go ahead and re-assess as you see fit, and don't let the prior assessments (which might be years out of date) be an obstacle. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Great. Will do. I appreciate the "toe-dipping" analogy, trust me, I've been stepping lightly, I had one bad experience when I first arrived at the Wikiverse; I'm trying very hard not to step on anyone's toes again. ;-) I'll go back through the articles that I've expanded on and do my best. If someone wants to revert, they can have at it. Thanks again for helping me. I try to look for answers on my own, but it's good to be able to ask a question of someone more experienced, if I need to. Mollifiednow (talk) 00:37, 22 December 2020 (UTC) PS bookmarked the links, thanks :-)

Incorrect Redirect?

Some time ago, when I first joined, I found some discrepancies between two articles: George Ticknor (journalist) and another George Ticknor. The journalist article was deleted.

I was just going through my contributions list, updating class ratings on articles that I had expanded/improved on. I found the journalist Ticknor, (mentioned above) and clicked the link; it redirects to The Keene Sentinel.

If I recall correctly, Ticknor & Sons held part ownership in the Sentinel for a short period of time, but not this journalist; he is not mentioned in the article, which makes me think the redirect is an error. I'm not sure, maybe there is a reason for the redirect, but I wanted to bring it to the attention of someone who knows more about these things. Mollifiednow (talk) 02:12, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Mollifiednow, it looks like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Ticknor (journalist) resulted in consensus to redirect to the Sentinel, with the redirect tagged with {{r to related topic}}. Generally, we try not to make redirects to pages that don't mention the term being redirected from, but in this case I think it's okay, since the Sentinel's page is a start class article at best, but if it were more fully developed it presumably would mention Ticknor somewhere as part of a comprehensive history section. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the explanation. I'll make some time to work on the Sentinel article, since I'm aware of the situation now. ;-) Mollifiednow (talk) 03:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh my, I am embarrassed now that I see mention of him in the article, as I take another look at it this morning. Apologies. Mollifiednow (talk) 13:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Review

Hello, can someone kindly review my Draft:Harry Fear ? He is a journalist known for his live coverage of the Gaza/Israel conflict in 2012 and the documentary Gaza:Still Alive. Thanks in advance Engy Badawy (talk) 23:52, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

The Philadelphia Inquirer featured article review

I have nominated The Philadelphia Inquirer for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:00, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Master of Journalism stub

Hello!

I just created an article for the Master of Journalism degree. It is currently a stub.

I have written a bit about the degree and included the schools in Canada and the U.S. If anyone else would like to help by adding to this article, that would be great!

Thank you!

13mka1 (talk) 02:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't know what to add to the stub, but I just linked an article I'm expanding, Bob Drogin, to it :-) cheers - Mollifiednow (talk) 00:18, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Bruno Maddox FAR

I have nominated Bruno Maddox for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. RetiredDuke (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

RfC on the acceptability of a source

I've started an RfC on the acceptability of a source and would greatly appreciate it if a few editors who are familiar with how industry topic-specific Trade Media in the modern journalism landscape gets sorted might choose to join the conversation. How to separate the decent from the poor, particularly in an industry where a number of outlets seem to have started up that are not considered reliable sources? The RfC is here. N2e (talk) 22:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § RfC: Asian News International (ANI)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard § RfC: Asian News International (ANI). Walrus Ji (talk) 09:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Tidying up and updating the Ezra Klein article

I have noticed that article on Ezra Klein is well below Wikipedia standards. I did my best to amend the lede and beginning of the article but the main body is still disorganized, non-chronological, outdated, and poorly-sourced in parts. Could somebody from this group please help solve this? Further yet, could you adopt it as a group project?

Klein is one of the most influential journalists in the United States among Democratic politicians at the moment and this article not only does a disservice to him but it's poor quality reflects poorly on this website as a whole. I recommend we take action on it. Cosmopolismetropolis (talk) 00:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move

It has been proposed that Clandestine press of the French Resistance be renamed to Underground media in German-occupied France. Your feedback would be welcome at this discussion. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

RS: Polish media

Invitation to join the following discussions:

• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Gazeta Wyborcza and OKO.press
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Telewizja Polska
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Sieci & wpolityce.pl & associated portals
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Do Rzeczy
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Rydzyk's media empire
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Polskie Radio
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#niezalezna.pl
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Gazeta Polska & TV Republika
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Najwyższy Czas
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Polska Press

Abcmaxx (talk) 00:41, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Where is the "Requested journalism articles" section?

Where is the "Requested journalism articles" section? Can a link to this be added in an easy-to-find location, right at the top of this WikiProject page? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 00:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

You can add a WP:RED link in the articles requested bit of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Journalism/to do

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Newspapers § New archive of history of newspapers

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Newspapers § New archive of history of newspapers. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 06:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

International Herald Tribune and The New York Times International Edition: One article or two?

Please contribute to a discussion at Talk:The New York Times International Edition. Recently, an editor started a new article at International Herald Tribune, which had previously been a redirect to The New York Times International Edition. The former is the pre-2013 name of the latter; Wikipedia's NYT International Edition article includes the history of this newspaper through several name changes back to its Paris Herald days. Thoughts of WP:Journalism participants are welcome. _``` t b w i l l i e _{`</sub> $1.25 <sub>`} 21:20, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Two articles. The International Herald Tribune is listed in the Library of Congress https://www.loc.gov/item/sn94021607/ Based on that combined with other references, it would appear to merit its own Wikipedia entry. For example, the International Herald Tribune has its own chapter in the robust six-volume "Encyclopedia of Journalism" which covers all significant dimensions of journalism and history. https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/encyclopedia-of-journalism/book226164

Heath Freeman

I recently created a draft for Heath Freeman, the managing director of Alden Global Capital, which owns Digital First Media, the company that is dismantling many major American newspapers. He has been subject to extensive reporting over the last few years. I think it is time he have his own article. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you, Thriley (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Anil Bhoyrul

I came across an attempt to whitewash the ..."colourful"... history of British journalist Anil Bhoyrul which includes a conviction for buying shares ahead of tipping them in the Daily Mirror and writing lies about Conrad Black in the Sunday Express. He's since forged a new life in Dubai and has just set up a new media company there, so it's perhaps no surprise that somebody is trying to rewrite his article. Of course that's just a red rag to a bull, so I've rewritten it to not far off WP:GA standard as far as I can with publicly-available sources, there's just a few things that need filling in like the basic bio stuff of education, birthplace, wife's maiden name etc. I imagine that as a prominent editor of business magazines in the mid-90s his fall was given extensive coverage by his rivals. So if anyone has access to British newspaper archives of that time, I imagine there will be profiles and more detail on eg exactly how he came to leave BusinessAge the second time, which looks like it was a result of Owen Oyston having to sell his media interests after being jailed for rape, but I haven't found a source that says so definitively. He's not the most significant figure ever, but having got this far it would be nice to fill in some of those bits and get it to WP:GAN. Even if you can't help on the article, it would be useful to have a few more eyes watching it for further attempts to whitewash it. Le Deluge (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Kommersant has an RFC

Kommersant has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to test systematic linking of newspaper titles in footnotes

Please see here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon#Proposing a small experiement

Summary: This proposal is to take about six months to (semi-)systematically link the titles of newspapers of Oregon politicians, in order to inform any future discussion of doing so more broadly. Thank you sdkb for your advocacy and analysis on this! -Pete Forsyth (talk) 21:25, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Update: I've started a page for this here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Newspapers/Links in footnotes -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Recommend adding this project to David Ruggles article

Hello. I've been a long time absent contributor, but recently heard an interview with Jonathan Wells, the author of The Kidnapping Club: Wall Street, Slavery, and Resistance on the Eve of the Civil War on the subject of his book, which included Mr. Ruggles, as he wrote a contemporary artcile on the subject in the early 19th century. I see that the currentle article is not so bad, but still a start up and so am waving it under the nose of projects I thought it would fall under in the hopes that more active contributors might add to it/fix it/etc. IMHO (talk) 22:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

InMyHumbleOpinion, to add this project to the article, use the project's template on the article's talk page. I'll do so using an assisted tool, Rater. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Why only Publisher, Owner, and Editor in the infobox for newspapers?

A question - in working on updating some of the articles for newspapers published in Vermont, I noticed that the infoboxes almost always have only Owner, Publisher, Editor. However, in most newspapers there are usually multiple editors. Sometimes a Managing Editor or an Executive Editor, or sometimes a News Editor or a section editor (ex. Sports Editor). Is there a particular convention or rationale for limiting the infobox to just having these three positions? Is there any reason NOT to include additional editors, for instance? (Realizing that Wikipedia is not a directory, but also realizing that a newspaper is the product of so many more people than just those top three positions.) - Dyork (talk) 20:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Dyork, we generally only include the top positions for any organization. There's no firm standard about who those people are or a specific number of them. But per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, if you're listing more than four people, you're probably listing positions that aren't really at the top. Having those increases the maintenance burden (since people change jobs frequently), and as you note, it's not really our job to provide a directory. Only the very top people at an organization have enough influence over it to rise to an encyclopedic level. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 01:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dyork: To expand on what Sdkb said, the reason these three positions are usually sufficient for a newspaper infobox is because these are the three "where the buck stops" positions in most newspapers. The owner is, well, the owner. He, she or it can make drastic changes, shut down the newspaper or fire any particular employee. The publisher is the person who bears legal responsibility for the contents of the paper, and is the "CEO" of the newspaper as a business operation. The decisions of an advertising director or circulation manager can be appealed to a publisher; the decisions of a publisher on these matters are final. But in most cases, the publisher is not involved in day-to-day oversight of the newsgathering and publishing organization; here, it's the chief editor (sometimes known as executive editor, or some similar title) who has the final say. The decisions of a sports editor or photo chief can be appealed to the executive editor; the decisions of the executive editor (on news matters, in most well-respected 20th-21st century American newspapers, at least) are final. _``` t b w i l l i e _{`</sub> $1.25 <sub>`} 03:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

• Sdkb and Toll Booth Willie - Thank you both for the helpful explanations. - Dyork (talk) 18:33, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Career section of NBC President Noah Oppenheim

There is a discussion that grew out of a Request Edit taking place on the Talk page for NBC president Noah Oppenheim. It is here: Talk:Noah_Oppenheim#Request Edits March 2021. Project members may be interested in participating. I have a WP:COI disclosed on the Talk page. Thanks. BC1278 (talk) 20:38, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Isaac Saul

Hi there! I recently created this article, and I was curious if anyone wants to review it. I'm especially curious to see whether it meets notablility (I think it does, since I found several news stories about him, but I'm not sure), and how I can improve the writing style. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokopelli7309 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

This draft has been deleted. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:20, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Notability policy discussion of strong relevance to this project

There is discussion at WT:Notability of removing WP:NMEDIA from the SNG sidebar because it is an explanatory supplement, not a guideline. This adds some urgency to the question of whether we ought to make NMEDIA a guideline (it has a more inclusive standard than the overlapping alternatives, so without it being as visible fewer newspaper pages are likely to survive AfD). Please head over there and join the discussion if you would like to share your thoughts. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 16:02, 4 June 2021 (UTC) {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 16:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Robert C. Maynard Institute for Journalism Education#Requested move 28 May 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robert C. Maynard Institute for Journalism Education#Requested move 28 May 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Pulitzer Prizes

The 2021 Pulitzer Prizes have been announced; some help building up the article would be appreciated, especially as the ITN nomination (if it gains consensus) can't be posted until the article is ready. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

International editions updates for Playboy

Hello! I'm Zach, an employee at PLBY Group. I've been working with volunteer editors to help me with some updates to the Playboy article, which I don't edit personally because of my conflict of interest. Right now, I'm looking for an editor to help review a list of changes to the article's section on international editions of Playboy, and thought it might be of interest to this WikiProject. If you'd like to take a look, you'll find the request here. Many thanks, PLBY ZG (talk) 20:52, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Notability of Michael Sean Winters

Hello. I have a question concerning the notability of a journalist. Does Michael Sean Winters have enough notability to have a Wikipedia article? His WP page has only one link to a third party source. Veverve (talk) 00:01, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Journalist Jose Guevara

Greetings, I put a draft of something on the late Manila columnist Jose Guevara:

Draft:Jose_Guevara

However, its AfC request has been marked decline. It is too thin to move into mainspace as it is, and I don't have the background or the access to media to fill this out. A few more paragraphs on the man and some more references would be a good thing. He was one of the Philippines' best-known and most trenchant columnists, on the level of Mike Royko or Bill Safire for that market. But there's just not much online to demonstrate notability. It was recommended I check with folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan Philippines or Wikipedia:WikiProject Journalism. Anyone capable of picking this up? Zelchenko (talk) 16:01, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I expanded the draft and moved it to Jose Guevara. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:26, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Godi media § Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2021

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Godi media § Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2021. 122.179.87.96 (talk) 13:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Godi media § Photo request

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Godi media § Photo request. 122.179.87.96 (talk) 13:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata proposal of potential interest to this project

A Wikidata property proposal regarding Media Bias/Fact Check is at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Media_Bias/Fact_Check_ID. --Animalparty! (talk) 17:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Notice of Featured Article Review

I have nominated Ramón Emeterio Betances for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 02:53, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Review of NBC News/Farrow Matter

I have started a discussion regarding a complex journalism issue at Talk:NBC News#Review of NBC News Farrow Matter regarding the Harvey Weinstein investigation at NBC News. Members of this project may find it of interest. Please not I have a conflict of interest as a paid consultant to NBC News. Thanks. BC1278 (talk) 18:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

RfC re: Ronan Farrow reporting at NBC News

There is an RfC at Talk:NBC News#Request for Comment NBC News Farrow Reporting that members of this project may be interested in. Please note I am a paid consultant to NBC News. BC1278 (talk) 15:37, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Drawing attention to an article

The article on Harry Lambert (journalist) has been getting more attention recently. I've had a quick look, and while I'm not familiar with notability guidelines notability looks like it could be an issue. Is there anyone who could take a look? Richard Nevell (talk) 19:55, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata proposal of potential interest to this project

A Wikidata property proposal regarding Issuu is at Wikidata:Property proposal/Issuu ID. Feel free to join the discussion there. --Animalparty! (talk) 23:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

RSN discussion on The Times of India

There is an ongoing proposal at the reliable sources noticeboard regarding The Times of India. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § Circular references from The Times of India. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 17:08, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Drawing attention to article discussion

Hi, there is a discussion about a controversial matter concerningNoah Oppenheim, the president of NBC News, that could very much use the input of members of the journalism project. Talk:Noah Oppenheim#Proposed lead. BC1278 (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

You're a paid editor, and you've already sucked up a ton of volunteer attention with your efforts to influence our coverage of the NBC's role in the Weinstein scandal. And now you're giving an invite to a conversation that has been dead for almost a month? Stop. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:14, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Yahoo! News has an RFC

Yahoo! News, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Aceing_Winter_Snows_Harsh_Cold (talk) 03:28, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pink-slime journalism#Requested move 14 November 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pink-slime journalism#Requested move 14 November 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. SkyWarrior 02:06, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

RFCs on Talk:Éric Zemmour

I would like to alert you to the RFCs currently active on Talk:Éric Zemmour. Fresh eyes would be helpful and this Wikiproject is relevant. Munci (talk) 05:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

RfC Notice: Wall Street Journal editorial stance on climate change in the lead

Should the lead of the WSJ article include the following statement, "The Journal's editorial board has promoted views that are at odds with the scientific consensus on climate change, acid rain, and ozone depletion, as well as on the health dangers of passive smoking, pesticides, and asbestos." Discussion here: Talk:The_Wall_Street_Journal#Should_editorial_opinions_be_posted_in_the_lede_summary Springee (talk) 03:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supriya Shrinate

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Supriya Shrinate. Venkat TL (talk) 18:38, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

RfC about rapid-onset gender dysphoria

Comments would be welcome at Talk:Irreversible Damage#RfC: Should rapid-onset gender dysphoria be described as "fringe"?. Crossroads ^-talk- 07:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Kanssallissosialisti (publication)#Requested move 25 December 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kanssallissosialisti (publication)#Requested move 25 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 17:29, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Raw Story Request

Hi editors, my name is Nathalie and I work for The Raw Story. I had made a request to update the History section over at the Raw Story page and was wondering if anyone here would be willing to take a look at it. I won't make any changes myself since I am a COI editor. I really appreciate the help! Nathalie at RS (talk) 19:50, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Join us! Become part of the Wikimedia Human Rights Interest Group. :)

Valued members of the WikiProject Journalism!

We are reaching out on behalf of the newly formed Human Rights Team(HRT) at the Foundation. We are currently in the process of forming a Human Rights Interest Group (HRIG) that aims to listen to and address the various human rights concerns and challenges pertaining to the Movement, its members and the readers around the world interested in the content you produce while also aiming to address the knowledge gap pertaining to human rights content i.e. human rights ideas, challenges, movements and actors (both historical and current) across the platform. We are reaching out to you to start a dialogue, present our ideas, hear your feedback and perhaps find some motivated Wikimedians to turn the HRIG into a successful initiative. Should this be of interest to you, please feel free to reply here or reach out to us at talktohumanrightswikimedia.org. We very much much look forward to hearing from you. :) -–KUrban (WMF) (talk) 08:46, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Joseph Lelyveld, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 7 February 2022 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team

Outreach article for journalists

Hi All,

In case you are interested I found this article on Outreach about using Wikipedia for Journalists. It might be worth updating - it didn't even have any categories.

Best, --Adam Harangozó (talk) 12:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Peer review

Hi all, I have nominated Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus for a peer review here, if anyone is interested in commenting. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Organized interference at Wikipedia by the Zemmour campaign for President of France

Multiple articles are being edited by members of a task force attached to the Eric Zemmour campaign for President of France. This is being covered by numerous outlets in the French press. Please see WP:VPM#WikiZedia: an organized influence operation at Wikipedia by the campaign of a candidate for French President. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Template:Financial crime

To discuss the suggestion to create a Template:Financial crime, see Talk:Financial crime.

144.85.134.215 (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC).

Request on The Players' Tribune page

Hi editors, I'm M and I work with Minute Media. I had made some requests over at The Players' Tribune and at the WikiProject Sports talk page and hadn't heard anything. I was hoping someone here might be willing to take a look. I know I can't make changes myself because of my conflict of interest. Thanks in advance for your help. M at MinuteMedia (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Andrew Castle page, code to convert currencies

I have tried to convert US dollars to British pounds on the Andrew Castle page, but it is not working. Can anyone help please? BrightOrion (talk) 06:45, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Largest newspaper chains?

I've done some work on Lee Enterprises, Digital First Media and Gannett. Gannett is the 1st largest chain in the U.S., DFM is the 2nd. Lee is said to be the 4th. I'm not clear which newspaper chain is the 3rd. Does anyone know for sure? It's not for lack of trying! The sources out there are (it seems to me) having a hard time keeping up with the consolidations. Novellasyes (talk) 18:52, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates § Pulitzer Prizes

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates § Pulitzer Prizes. Flagging for this project because if the nomination succeeds, it may set a precedent for WP:ITNR to post the Pulitzers each year. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Junk news

Hi all, I'm new to Wiki editing and a student, I have just added quite a bit of information to a previously pretty scarce stub for the topic of 'junk news.' I was wondering if anyone could have a look over it and was willing to give any pointers? I'd appreciate any help, thanks! RekNek42 (talk) 07:39, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Puck, digital media company

I recently created a stub for Puck (media company), a newly founded digital media company. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 02:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposal to add the Pulitzer Prizes to ITN/R

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:In the news § Pulitzers. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:00, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi There! I'm Brand New Here. Where Is The Most Useful Place For a Newcomer To Start?

Dear WikiProject Journalism friends. I just joined this wikiproject because I think that upholding the reliability of media sources is really the foundation of wikipedia which relies on the veracity of the media. Thank you for the incredible work that you have done and currently do. I'd like to be as useful as I can here. Where would you recommend newcomers like me start? Is it to expand stubs? Is it to refine and improve current pages with basic copy editing tasks. Any guidance from a potential mentor would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to meeting many of you! PaulPachad (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Dom Phillips, missing British journalist

I recently created a draft for journalist Dom Phillips. He went missing on Sunday while on a remote part of the Brazilian Amazon. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikifact

Hello. I would like to share a vision for a real-time fact-checking resource: Wikifact. I hope that the project is of some interest to those who contribute to Wikipedia in this journalism portal.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikifact

In the not-too-distant future, it may become possible for end-users to fact-check arbitrary portions of documents in word processors and Web browsers simply by selecting content, using context menus, and making use of crowdsourced, collaborative resources such as Wikifact. End-users would be able to select content from social media websites, news articles, digital textbooks, or arbitrary other documents and websites, and then open context menus providing options for exploring, e.g., fact-checking, the content.

I am hoping that more people will express interest on the project proposal’s website. I am hoping to publicize the project proposal. I am hoping to disseminate these ideas.

Please express your support for or opposition to the proposal on the project’s wiki page. We also welcome any of your comments, questions, or feedback with respect to the proposal, in particular ideas for improving it. Please feel free to share any of your ideas in our talk pages.

Thank you, AdamSobieski (talk) 09:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Splitting the editorial board content off the Wall Street Journal article

Recently a child article of the Wall Street Journal article was created around the paper's editorial board [3]. I think this is a split that could use some review. Please see the discussion here [4]. Springee (talk) 01:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Avisa Partners/Nativiz/iStrat

People here may wish to keep an eye on the article Avisa Partners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), since it relates to journalism in France and beyond. Boud (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

The Points Guy - update assistance

I suggested a few updates for The Points Guy here Talk:The_Points_Guy#Proposed_Updates_to_Article to help fix the article (missing sources, outdated information, etc.). I’d edit the page myself, but have declared a COI. Is someone from this project able to review the suggestions and update the article accordingly? Thanks.Cheergirl325 (talk) 15:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Andy Ngo has an RFC

Andy Ngo has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:20, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Erin Moriarty (actress)#Requested move 31 August 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Erin Moriarty (actress)#Requested move 31 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Alden Global Capital versus Digital First Media

Digital First Media (DFM) is the official name of the media/newspaper-publishing division of Alden Global Capital. We have an article on each entity. Increasingly, though, when comment is made on this company, the only name used is Alden Global Capital. Here's an example from the New York Times from October 6, 2022. The gist of the story in the New York Times is that "Publications owned by the hedge fund Alden Global Capital, the second-largest newspaper publisher in the country, will no longer endorse major political candidates in their opinion pages." That's a decision about editorial content, obviously. Nowhere in the NYT article does the phrase "Digital First Media" appear. Looking through Google search results over the last year for "Digital First Media", it doesn't get many. (Alden Global gets a lot.) I'm not 100% sure where to go with this, but there doesn't seem to be much point in elaborating within the Digital First Media article about this new editorial policy. Just looking for some guidance on this perplexing situation. Novellasyes (talk) 18:33, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

James Gordon Meek

I just created an article for journalist James Gordon Meek. He was the subject of major news recently. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 04:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Looking for Feedback

Hi all! I recently added a new section to Music Journalism titled "Conservative Christian Criticisms of Rock Music". I'm currently looking for any feedback and ways to improve the section and/or article as a whole. Thanks! Musicluvrr (talk) 18:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Rahul Ligma

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Rahul Ligma. ––FormalDude (talk) 19:16, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

RSN RfC on reliability of The Wire

There is an ongoing RfC on the reliable sources noticeboard regarding The Wire. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § RfC: The Wire (India). Tayi Arajakate _Talk 14:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Departure of NBC New president

Hi, I've had a Request Edit pending since January at Talk:Noah Oppenheim#Proposal for Updates January 2023 that is about the departure of the president of NBC News and other updates. Any assistance by members of this project would be greatly appreciated. BC1278 (talk) 19:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

2023 Pulitzer Prize

I recently created 2023 Pulitzer Prize. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 14:00, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Ben Collins (journalist)

I recently created a draft for NBC journalist Ben Collins. Any help with expansion would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Kyle Spencer#Requested move 30 May 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kyle Spencer#Requested move 30 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Added to an additional newspaper

Hello everyone: I have taken the liberty to add your wikiproject to a newspaper from Puerto Rico, HERE. If the addition was correct, there's nothing that needs to be done. If not, please feel free to revert or modify according to your project's practices. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 23:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Song about Edward R. Murrow and journalism up for deletion

Project members may be interested in the AfD (articles for deletion) nominatioon of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murrow Turning Over in His Grave, concerning a song by Fleetwood Mac centering on Edward R. Murrow and his reputation. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:27, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Daily News and Analysis#Requested move 25 September 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Daily News and Analysis#Requested move 25 September 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 15:52, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Rahul Ligma

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Rahul Ligma—has been proposed for merging with Acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. ––FormalDude (talk) 00:44, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Rfc - Richard D. Gill and Kate Shemirani

There's an ongoing RfC at Talk:Richard D. Gill#Rfc - Kate Shemirani radio show appearance of relevance to this project. Structuralists (talk) 21:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war

The pace of the news has badly outstripped the maintenance of the page Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war - flagging given the high pertinence to this WikiProject. Thanks. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Jamie Kalven FAC

I have nominated Jamie Kalven, an American journalist based in Chicago, for Featured Article status. Your feedback is welcome at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jamie Kalven/archive1. Cheers! Edge3 (talk) 02:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Need some help at: Visegrád 24

Visegrád 24 is one of the Twitter accounts that have become wildly popular in the wake of the Rus-Ukr war. There seems to be a lot of mystery in how it's run. The current article is some...what? of a start, but it's not quite in shape yet. This paywalled Polish article might be promising based on the limited text preview. Artoria2e5 🌉 06:06, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merge at Talk:Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war#Merge proposal (5 January 2024)

There is a proposed merge discussion at Talk:Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war#Merge proposal (5 January 2024) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. JM (talk) 23:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Colin MacKay (journalist, born 1944)#Requested move 6 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Colin MacKay (journalist, born 1944)#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:41, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Rome Sentinel#Requested move 31 December 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Rome Sentinel#Requested move 31 December 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. SkyWarrior 01:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Eric Berger (meteorologist)#Requested move 8 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Eric Berger (meteorologist)#Requested move 8 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:SME (newspaper)#Requested move 9 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:SME (newspaper)#Requested move 9 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Larry Koon#Requested move 12 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Larry Koon#Requested move 12 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 01:00, 12 January 2024 (UTC)