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February 28[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 28, 2021.

Secession crisis of 1860-61[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 8#Secession crisis of 1860-61

Redirects to Template:Translated page[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and misleading template redirects. These had all started out as small templates indicating that the page was a translation from the Wikipedia in the given language. The trouble is that the target template is for general uses, and requires the language code to be specified. This means that if you tried to use one of these redirects, the intuitive way won't work – {{Danish|Stød}}, for example, would spit out an error – you'd need to specify "Danish" twice: {{Danish|da|Stød}}. – Uanfala (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete currently unused and unnecessary. Prior to the redirects, they were useful, but have all been replaced. I agree that whoever did the redirects should have chosen a different method of tagging the relevant articles. What about template {{Da}}? --Bejnar (talk) 23:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • {{Da}} consists entirely of the string {{danish}}. It's also unused, and it will be WP:G8-eligible if Template:Danish is deleted. Converting it into a dab page may be an option, as several templates have existed at the title over the years. – Uanfala (talk) 00:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Fa[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The title is short for "Farsi" and it had previuosly existed as a redirect to the now deleted {{fa icon}}, which made sense at the time. However, the current target is misleading – it is a template for marking up paragraph-length text as being right-to-left. It's both too narrow (only for paragraphs) and too broad (not restricted to text in Farsi). If there is anything that comes close to what {{fa|...}} could be expected to do in a context like this, that would be {{lang|fa|...}}, but that doesn't have a separate template to retarget to; {{lang-fa}} does something a bit different, and that family of templates don't have redirects of this sort anyway. – Uanfala (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Racquel Spurlock[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete redirect that points to an entirely different person. 2600:1700:F771:58A0:E9F9:3890:932F:447E (talk) 17:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I was unable to locate any connection between the names. This seems like a straightforward delete. ―NK1406 01:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The article Katrina Colleton was moved from this redirect about a week after creation by the creator (with edit summary "The article is about Katrina Colleton, not Racquel Spurlock") so presumably it was simply a mistake and so this should be deleted. A7V2 (talk) 08:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Draft:Ignite India Education[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Deleted by User:Jimfbleak under CSD G8. (non-admin closure) (non-admin closure) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 15:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am aware, there is no reason for a draft article to redirect to a talk page of an article that will most likely be deleted shortly. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 14:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Saikyo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. signed, Rosguill talk 19:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:XY. Ambiguous title which can refer to lots of things. Saikyō can be a transliteration of 西京 (Western Capital), 最強 (literally "strongest", used in many anime and manga titles), 埼京 (as in Saikyō Line), and possibly other Japanese terms I am not aware of. The current target is a WP:PTM. feminist (talk) 12:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support changing to a general disambiguation page WhisperToMe (talk) 15:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment At first I thought that all of the Wikipedia article targets would be partial title matches, but looking at the text at Saikyo (without the diacritic), the ship is referred to as just "Saikyo". See, for example, The Kwang - ping and a torpedo - boat then joined the Pingyuen , and all three turned their attention upon the Saikyo. quote from Proceedings of the United States Naval Institute volume 20, page 811, there and the previous page. And the two articles about individuals with the Saikyo surname seems to fit with a disambiguation page. --Bejnar (talk) 05:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fair point, as I failed to realize that "Maru" is simply a suffix for a ship in the Japanese language. I have struck this part from my nomination. feminist (talk) 06:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Zyz, Italy[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete, without prejudice to recreation if a verified mention is added. Thryduulf (talk) 14:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target or its wikilinked articles on other language projects, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill: the source is on page on itwiki. Borteddd (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Borteddd, the cited source for that claim ([1]) gives the name as "Ziz" and doesn't appear terribly reliable. I tried searching for both "Zyz" and "Ziz" together with a few terms related to Phoenicians on Google Scholar and couldn't find any relevant results. signed, Rosguill talk 17:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's a mention of this (or something that looks like an alternative transliteration) at History of Palermo, but I'm having trouble verifying the claim against the sources cited. LlywelynII: you've added that mention in 2018, would you be able to help here? – Uanfala (talk) 23:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete. From the above discussion, it seems that this redirect does not help a reader searching for this title. Deryck C. 14:51, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Divinium[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Materials science in science fiction#divinium. Deryck C. 14:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional element used in the Call of Duty series but not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Consider procedurally closing and re-listing with other fictional things in Category:Fictional materials which are redirects to pages that do not mention them. Or, be WP:BOLD and add a mention of this in the target, making the argument from deletion "disappearium". davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC) Tweaked davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget Hello guys, I accidentally put it in Moscovium and didn't redirect it to Category:Fictional materials. I have made around 10 Redirects and I don't know how the redirect process works. So I would say retarget to the Category Davidwr said and someone should tell me either in this or the talk page about how the redirecting of Fictional and Non-Fiction combined together. --StaleGuy22 (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Officer under the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 04:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target, unlikely alternate name Onel5969 TT me 17:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. A quick web search shows a diversity of different uses for this terminology relating to the more legally significant term "officer of the United States". Even though this phrasing doesn't have a fixed meaning in itself, it's still useful as a search term for the article that discusses the correct terminology. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 18:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Keep per the similarly kept Office under the United States; likely search term. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. "Officers of the United States" and "Office under the United States" are both phrases which appear in the constitution; "Officer under the United States" does not, but it's a plausible mix-up of the two phrases. A search shows plenty of examples of "Officer under the United States" appearing in actual legal writing. Adumbrativus (talk) 04:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Josef Vinatzer[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 22:04, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The former CEO of the target article company, but he is no longer mentioned in the article. KnightMove (talk) 05:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Governor 1%[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 7#Governor 1%

Ace Deuce[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 7#Ace Deuce

Hitler and the Jews[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bad target - the Holocaust isn't just Hitler's opinions on the Jews - Mein Kampf discusses them in depth. While this is a rather significant interaction Hitler had with Jewish people, it's an inappropriate target for this redirect. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While your analysis is unassailable, I think we can agree that calling the Holocaust a a rather significant interaction Hitler had with Jewish people sets a new record in understatement. EEng 03:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
+1 to both. The requester's wording is inappropriate, but he is right with the request as such. --KnightMove (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's like saying Jackie Kennedy found her trip to Dallas "rather memorable". EEng 06:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, it wasn't the best wording, but what else should I have said? You got the idea. Elli (talk | contribs) 08:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above, not an appropriate target for this redirect and I'm not sure that one exists. — The Earwig (talk) 06:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete We do not have an article on either Adolf Hitler's personal beliefs about Jews, nor his policies about them. We have plenty of articles on Nazism and its worldview, but relatively few of the beliefs of individual Nazis. Dimadick (talk) 08:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There's a book by that title, and if there's an article about it, or its author, it should probably redirect there. Mathglot (talk) 08:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, why not redirect to Nazi racial theories? —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:26, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    How about if vague conjunctions not redirect anywhere at all? EEng 19:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:XY. This conjunction results in a vague redirect with lots of possible targets. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of books about Nazi Germany#Hitler and the Nazi Party as R with possibilities — I believe Hitler and the Jews: The Genesis of the Holocaust is WP:NBOOKS-notable, having been reviewed by German History (journal) [2] and Foreign Affairs [3], and having been cited by other RSes [4]. The book is already an entry on the list, and the redirect could probably be expanded into an article about the book. Levivich harass/hound 00:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Honestly, I believe thinking of redirects as search aids is, like, pre-Google; I've never, ever found something in a search via a redirect. The use case for redirects is for linking e.g so that [[Franklin Roosevelt]], [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], and [[FDR]] will all work. EEng 01:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    If it's notable, then I don't see any reason not to create a 3-sentence long stub about the book instead of deleting the page. →Σσς. (Sigma) 12:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or retarget to List of books about Nazi Germany per above - not specifically to the section "Hitler and the Nazi Party" because the book is listed in two different sections. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Draft:Cessation of life[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Move to mainspace. Now that's a rare RfD outcome. signed, Rosguill talk 04:54, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless, created as a redirect, not what draftspace is for. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think this is a useful title for a mainspace redirect (it's a definition of death and not a plausible search term), but I want to object to nominating with this rationale. Draft redirects like this are usually created by new users who cannot create mainspace pages and don't know about WP:AFC/R (the article wizard does not point them there, and it's not always easy to find). It would be more helpful for everyone involved to treat them like AFC/R submissions and either accept them (create as redirects in the mainspace) or reject them (decline the AfC submission with a message to the submitter explaining why their suggestion does not make a good redirect, as in this case). — The Earwig (talk) 05:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to article space Seems like a reasonable enough search term and is unambiguous. Either move this redirect or make a new one in article space. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to mainspace per Earwig and our unregistered friend. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 23:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Draft:Yhdysvallat[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No reason for this to exist, a redirect with no history from a nonsense title in draft space. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete per G1. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Finnish may be a strange language to English speakers, but come on, it's not nonsense! wikt:Yhdysvallat! Though this would still be appropriate to delete per WP:RFOREIGN and prior discussion here and here. — The Earwig (talk) 05:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:FORRED. Nothing particularly Finnish about the united states, and no point having a redirect from draftspace if the article was never at this title. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Walmart*[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible misspelling. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep* as a kind of stylization of the logo. That's how the star appears next to the name,* but I'm not 100 sure* about this course of action.* Regards, SONIC678* 02:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • true I guess. In looking at redirects I saw about twenty things like Wal*Mart which I didn't nominate, I guess since that was their previous logo. I haven't been to a Wal-Mart in quite a while, lol. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:02, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Sonic678's argument is reasonable, but I don't think this works out to a plausible search term, as someone who's gone to the trouble of typing 'Walmart' already will have it come up before they can add the asterisk. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 23:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Transgendered (Male-Bodied)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term, was created as an article before being redirected in 2005. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 02:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Implausible search term, weird capitalization, Transgendered already redirs to Transgender, plus it wouldn't break anything. Srey Srostalk 02:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not even clear what someone would be searching for, and I can't imagine them typing all that, and not selecting one of the pop-ups that were offered before they got that far. Mathglot (talk) 08:58, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - "Transgendered" is an improper term in itself, let alone with this qualifier. This reads like someone attempting a pathological categorization, and it's sort of unpleasant. BlackholeWA (talk) 23:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the above. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 12:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hair Fairies (people)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 8#Hair Fairies (people)

Serial Shooter[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Serial killer. signed, Rosguill talk 04:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a generic term that somehow got redirected to one particular pair of criminals. EEng 01:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per EEng. -sche (talk) 06:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Retarget per 86.23.109.101's comment. -sche (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Origin is via an earlier article title from before the culprits were known, but looking back 15 years later (WP:RECENCY and all that), I don't know if this can be called the primary topic of this redirect. — The Earwig (talk) 06:38, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    EEng, want to bundle Serial Shooters into this nom as well? — The Earwig (talk) 06:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Far be it from me to shoot that suggestion down. EEng 06:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Retarget is likely better per the IP below. — The Earwig (talk) 21:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget both to Serial killer. These seem to be commonly used terms for serial killers that kill by shooting, and Serial Shooter got over 17,000 page views last year. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    "Retarget" is maybe not the best word choice in this particular situation. EEng 23:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll make sure not to overshoot my target while figuring out the best shot for this redirect. We're all gunning for the right outcome here, after all. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 23:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re...uh...put it somewhere else (to Serial killer). Vaticidalprophet (talk) 23:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – if this seems useful, then put it at Serial shooter instead, without the over-capitalization. Nobody is going to cap Shooter if looking for this. Dicklyon (talk) 00:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    wikt:cap#Verb, sense 8. EEng 14:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per the ip. Thryduulf (talk) 05:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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