Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 6

April 6[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 6, 2021.

Leo John (Schindler's List)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Leo John (Schindler's List) → Schindler's List (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in the target article. Looking it up it appears to be a non-notable character. Dominicmgm (talk) 22:28, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. The character is a German soldier played by Harry Nehring, who doesn't have an article on Wiki. Less Unless (talk) 11:58, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Aseleste/Category holder[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 01:57, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Aseleste/Category holder → User:Aseleste (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This little-used redirect page clutters up a huge number of categories. My first choice would be deletion, second choice would be to turn it into a standard redirect with no cats, third choice would be to add leading colons to the cats. (Example: [[:Category::Wikipedians who should probably stop screwing around with categories, lest they draw unwanted attention from the Categories Police]] ). Guy Macon (talk) 18:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why did User:Aseleste/Category holder end up with "#invoke:RfD" instead of linking to this discussion? Is there a way to fix this? --Guy Macon (talk) 18:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Normally that means you've exceeded some limit in the template parser, or the LUA module has produced an error. Rather than expanding the template it just produces a wikilink to the template or LUA module. I assume it has something to do with NAMESPACE and ROOTPAGENAME magic words on the page, I don't know if the RfD LUA module has error handling to deal with being passed those magic words. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fixed. It has nothing to do with magic words, the problem was instead that the page had too much wikitext to process. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep, as I can't see any evidence that the nominator contacted this active and productive user before nominating their page for deletion. Aside from that, the deletion nomination doesn't make any sense - All of the categories are Wikipedia user categories, and how is the presence of a user page "cluttering" categories that are intended to hold user pages? If a user wants to put their user categories on a separate page, there is nothing wrong with that. No valid reason for deletion, and serious incivility against another editor. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So you see no problem with a redirect that is in all of the following categories, and which makes all of the following categories larger?

Vein attack[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vein attack → Aneurysm (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target, neither an internet search nor a Google Scholar search suggest that this is an alternative name for the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:05, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nothing meaningful in PubMed either. NikosGouliaros (talk) 07:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and above - same results. Less Unless (talk) 12:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Searching "vein attack" gives me several horror movies about someone killing some else by (what else?) attacking their veins, but no aneurysms. 🐔 Chicdat ^{Bawk to me!} 10:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Brilliant brown[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 17#Brilliant brown

Centre vendéen de recherches historiques[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Centre vendéen de recherches historiques → fr:Centre vendéen de recherches historiques (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete. Fails WP:SRD: "Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they will generally be unhelpful to English-language readers.". Per WP:SOFTSP as well, soft redirects from the mainspace should be towards other English language sister projects, not to articles in another language. Fram (talk) 14:22, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. This should be a redlink to encourage the creation of an English language article. French language content will not be of great use to a large number of our readers as they will not speak French and will have to read the article through a translator. If it is desirable to add a link to the French article {{Interlanguage link}} should be used, rather than a redirect. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, unless there is an appropriate local target for this page. Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful. The plain {{soft redirect}} template is not used in the mainspace (along the lines of the sentiment expressed at WP:SOFTSP). See here for precedents. — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 15:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, I've replaced the only use by {{ill|Centre vendéen de recherches historiques|fr}} so it will continue to send people to the right place after deletion. —Kusma (𐍄·𐌺) 11:54, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and above, also to inspire article creation. Less Unless (talk) 12:01, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --Devoke water 21:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Grifo (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Talk:Grifo. -- Tavix ^(talk) 02:00, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Grifo (disambiguation) → Talk:Grifo (noble) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

~~Delete because the only logical target does not exist.~~ (To match main namespace, this page should redirect to talk for the disambiguation page currently at Grifo~~, but that has no talk page~~.) Certes (talk) 13:53, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think the solution here would be to make a blank talkpage at Grifo and retarget this to point at it. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just tag Talk:Grifo with {{WikiProject Disambiguation}} and the nominated page with {{Talk page of redirect}}, and the problem goes away. Nothing to see here. - Eureka Lott 16:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, now that Talk:Grifo has been created, the obvious and uncontroversial solution is to retarget to there. Certes (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Twin Drive[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:34, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Twin Drive → Volkswagen Group (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Volkswagen seem to have been using a technology by this name in their golfs at some point, but it isn't mentioned in the main article on the car group. A google search shows this phrase being used in a large number of different contexts, so it seems a bit ambiguous. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. It's ambiguous. I've found it used in Seats and there are also twin drive-ins and an anime system (thank you, google). Less Unless (talk) 12:08, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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60i[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:27, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

60i → Vaxell 60i (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This might also refer to 60-frames-per-second interlaced video, and I would argue this is the primary topic, though it is only really described at the 24p article as far as I can see. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:23, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to turn it into a disambiguation page! - Ahunt (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahunt As I said, "I would argue this is the primary topic". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate per Ahunt. Dominicmgm (talk) 22:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Unclear if disambiguating would be the correct outcome.
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Disambiguate. Draft provided. Without an article, I don't think there's enough for a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:26, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sandra Lindsay[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:41, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sandra Lindsay → Gary M. Heidnik (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Sandra Lindsay was a murder victim and is mentioned at the target article. However, a Search for other uses of "Sandra Lindsay" shows 9 articles that mention the term, many about different people, but none of whom is worthy of an article. In this case, therefore, the redirect obstructs a more productive Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sandra Lindsay was the first person to be vaccinated for Covid in the US. She's so unknown that she was part of the televised inauguration of Biden as an announcer. I don't say she should have her own article, but she should be a redirect as well. In the case of two redirects, then the disambiguation page is the best solution. --Deansfa (talk) 14:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Disambiguate per Deansfa -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:40, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Taxonomy/"Labyrinthodontia"[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 15:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Taxonomy/"Labyrinthodontia" → Template:Taxonomy/Labyrinthodontia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

accidental creation. Apostrophs are invalid. Just clutters enwiki database Estopedist1 (talk) 07:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Quotation marks indicate an uncertain genus. This particular template is unused and may qualify for Unnecessary taxonomy templates, but others with quotes are being used correctly. For example, Template:Taxonomy/"Hylarana", as used in "Hylarana" attigua, has a subtly but deliberately different meaning from Template:Taxonomy/Hylarana, as used in Hylarana taipehensis, which a taxonomist could explain better than I can. Certes (talk) 11:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by creator: I have no opinion on whether to keep it or not, but I can assure you that it was transcluded somewhere when I created it. Someone would have to dig deep to figure out where, but that may indicate future usefulness. I have no objection to deletion of an unused template redirect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete because this redirect is unused, but noting that other titles with quotation marks play a useful and necessary role in the taxobox system. Certes (talk) 09:16, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Melania (gastropods)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Thiara. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:15, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Melania (gastropods) → Siccia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Siccia is not a gastropod. And disambiguator qualifier "(gastropods)" is invalid. See User:Estopedist1/Taxons and disambiguation Estopedist1 (talk) 12:21, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. The target is a genus of moths, not gastropods. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:15, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually Retarget to Thiara which is a genus of gastropods with this name as a synonym. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete / speedy CSD 3 now I've created singular Melania (gastropods)) or Retarget (already done fixing my typo) to Thiara - same as the redirect this redirect replaces Melania Lamarck. This should be obvious to anyone who has seen the original two redirects that this (and the other one Melania (moths) now Melania (moth)) replaced. As the nom of this does know those two redirects intimately having only just nommed them WP:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_March_23#Melania_Lamarck WP:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2021_March_23#Melania_Wallengren, this nom of User:Estopedist1 beggars belief why it isn't obviously the intended target. Widefox; talk 17:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Widefox: Sorry but I found that comment difficult to follow. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ultraconservatism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:35, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ultraconservatism → Conservatism#National conservatism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 December 5 – delete

Previously deleted. No mention of term at target page and meaning is dubious at best. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:52, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Ultraconservatism literally means extremely conservative and could refer to various groups, depending on context. I haven't seen any sources where national conservatives are referred to this way. TFD (talk) 19:53, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree with TFD - anything could be called ultra, but there's no such term in widespread usage.Less Unless (talk) 12:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom. --Devoke water 21:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiger Asia Management[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tiger Asia Management → Archegos Capital Management (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I don't understand why this redirect was created. The only link between Tiger Asia Management and Archegos Capital Management is that an employee of the former created the latter. These are clearly separate entities. JBchrch (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As stated above, these are different firms. I agree. Deletion is the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Tiger Asia Management needs it’s own wikipage. --Devoke water 10:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. According to this source cited in the article, Archegos came from Tiger Asia: "In 2013, Hwang converted the firm [Tiger Asia] into a family office – Archegos Capital Management". The "History" section should be clarified, but the redirect seems appropriate. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 09:09, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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April 6[edit]

Leo John (Schindler's List)[edit]

User:Aseleste/Category holder[edit]

Vein attack[edit]

Brilliant brown[edit]

Centre vendéen de recherches historiques[edit]

Talk:Grifo (disambiguation)[edit]

Halo pc[edit]

Halo game[edit]

寶馬汽車[edit]

Fuel industry[edit]

Twin Drive[edit]

60i[edit]

Sandra Lindsay[edit]

Template:Taxonomy/"Labyrinthodontia"[edit]

Melania (gastropods)[edit]

Ultraconservatism[edit]

Tiger Asia Management[edit]