Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 3

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September 3[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 3, 2020.

Homosexuality in the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to LGBT in the United States. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm Bacon 22:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should redirect to LGBT in the United States, which covers a broader topic and discusses LGBT rights. —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 23:43, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Cultural references in Pokémon[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As redirects, there seems to be no appropriate place for these to target per WP:XY, given there is no appropriate information at Pokémon which these redirects could refer, and the titles of the redirects do not show exclusivity to Pokémon (anime), their current target which doesn't include such information either. The redirect Cultural references in Pokémon was previously an article which was deleted in 2006 per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cultural references in Pokémon (4th nomination), but then had its edit history restored in 2009. However, with all that being said, I am not seeing the content which was formerly at this title present in any Pokémon-related article, meaning the edit history should be safe to delete. Steel1943 (talk) 18:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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2020 Singapore Grand Prix[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Singapore Grand Prix#2020. (non-admin closure) Hog Farm Bacon 22:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have no clue why this page redirects to the "2020 One World Championship" article. Seventyfiveyears at 19:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To awnser the question directly. This redirects to its destination because the 2020 Singapore Grand Prix was supposed to be a round of the 2020 Formula One World Championship before it got cancelled due to COVID-19. This is made very clear within the article.
SSSB (talk) 21:23, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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PLpro[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A Scholar search suggests that PLpro stands for "papain-like protease", which is not equivalent to papain itself. It's not mentioned at the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 21:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak delete to encourage article creation. It does seem to be a protease that's been researched significantly because it turns up in coronaviruses, and other related ones like 3CLpro have significant articles. I don't think it's necessarily harmful to point it at Papain as it is at the moment (as the article does explain the mechanism) but it's not really all that helpful either, and while it's mentioned in several coronavirus-related articles it's not really discussed usefully anywhere else to retarget. ~ mazca talk 12:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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BERSATU Blackout[edit]

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Mississippi Mudflap[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Slang terms that receive hardly any use anywhere, falls within WP:RFD#DELETE #8 as novel or obscure synonyms. Hog Farm Bacon 15:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Holler (film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 19:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Film-title-to-director redirect for a film that entered the production pipeline a decade ago but appears never to have come out the other end as a completed film, and is not mentioned in the target article at all. The more serious problem is that a completely different film of the same title, by a different director, premiered this year -- meaning that a person who wants to find the 2020 film will get badly confused and misled by this (in fact, there's already an inbound link expecting the 2020 film). If I could find evidence that the Shapiro film had ever actually come out at all, then I'd just move this to a new title that added the year of release to the disambiguator -- but I can't find any such evidence, so deletion is the more appropriate response. Bearcat (talk) 19:57, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. As the nom suggests, this is ambiguous, and confusing without a mention. Without prejudice to its re-creation as an article about a future film. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The Midnight Raymond Chandler[edit]

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Chandler (occupation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Keep the one with the useful disambiguator. signed, Rosguill talk 19:13, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if the most appropriate target for these redirects is Chandlery or Candle. They should probably both go to one or the other. Steel1943 (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirects to Raymond Chandler[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget all except The Midnight Raymond Chandler (which will be separated into a new nomination) to Raymond Chandler bibliography. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Various topics (probably works) that are not mentioned in the target article, leaving readers searching for these terms left with finding no such information. Steel1943 (talk) 16:30, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The King of Burgers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 16:08, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Burger King" has neither any content nor mentioned anything about "The King of Burgers". Seventyfiveyears at 01:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to The Burger King per Google. Google seems to direct this phrase with the article and honestly the redirect would make more sense. CaptainGalaxy 20:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete since there is no mention of this ambiguous phrase in any Enwiki article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:14, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete since ambiguous. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:12, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no evidence that either the chain or the mascot is known by this term.--67.68.208.64 (talk) 04:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Draft:Goosebumps: Slappy Halloween[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete "untitled", no consensus for the rest. signed, Rosguill talk 16:08, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Related to the nom. from yesterday, this is an example of the mess that results when out-of-date redirects are nonetheless kept in the draftspace, all of which target an article that was itself never in the draftspace! (though I am fine keeping the now-title-matching Draft:Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween in spite of that). UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:00, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all per nom since these were created as redirects to existing articles. (And for what it's worth, I do not believe this nomination is in any way similar to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 25#Draft:Untitled Harley Quinn project.) 04:50, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
    • Only that both sets resulted, in the first place, from in-draftspace moves: that was the only point I was trying to make by connecting them. UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the "Untitled" one as it's plausible that title could be used for a future draft article about another sequel. Keep the rest as there is no benefit to deleting them - it is not plausible these will ever be needed for drafts about any other topic. Thryduulf (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Your "no benefit to deleting them" makes me think you spend very little time in draftspace maintenance, which depends heavily on Special:AllPages, a tool that has 1) no way to suppress display of redirects and 2) can only display 200 draftspace pages at a time. This means a draftspace maintainer has to scroll past page, after page, after PAGE, containing mostly redirects similar to the ones above, before finally reaching a draft page needing maintenance such as Draft:Gopi Einstein (The Scientist). UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's a reason to develop alternative tools and/or improve the ones we currently have rather a justification for deleting redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • You and I both know that will never happen. I'll take my work to a place less frustrating in en-wiki. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:39, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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06452017[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 16:06, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it's an inmate number, not a likely search term. Hog Farm Bacon 14:51, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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2019–20 California energy crisis[edit]

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Wading[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 16:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wading and swimming are not the same thing. With only two rivers, I can't find enough entries to justify converting this to a dab page. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All I could find are WP:PTMs, sort of: Wading River (a dab), the redirects Wading pool and Wading bird (not to be confused with Category:Wading birds). You would think this should be a subtopic of Aquatic locomotion, or at least an associated term, but there's nothing in that article specifically about "wading". – Uanfala (talk) 10:13, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and there's Deep wading, for vehicles. – Uanfala (talk) 19:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Gynecologic and Obstetric Investigation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 16:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lemma not included in target. Hildeoc (talk) 19:39, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is not. It's a redirect to Karger, because it's fairly standard practice to redirect lesser notable journals to their publishers. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:22, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Right, so it's the good crap instead of the bad crap. Steel1943 (talk) 20:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Might feel differently if this were part of a well reasoned bulk nomination, or was testing consensus for same, but per Headbomb, makes no sense as a one-off delete. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:04, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Sketch Films[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:23, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not mentioned in target article and potentially ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I created this redirect in 2018 as a replacement for a piped link in 2012 in film, in connection with the film Underworld: Awakening, which Len Wiseman directed - presumably in association with Sketch Films, who are mentioned in the film's article as a production company, though no explicit connection is made between the company and Mr Wiseman. Colonies Chris (talk) 15:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep I suppose. All title case matches in wikipedia are related to Len Wiseman's production company (external ref). I added a sentence that Sketch Films is his production company. -2pou (talk) 18:00, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Invest 99-L[edit]

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Creation vs. mainstream science in cosmology[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 16:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

not a plausible search term. jps (talk) 03:13, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete sort of an WP:XY; unlikely to be searched, as the nominator says. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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