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January 8[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2020.

List of births, marriages and deaths in Hollyoaks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search target, recreation of recently deleted article. — MarkH21talk 23:40, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Article was recently deleted and redirect target makes no sense. Ajf773 (talk) 17:14, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Teeth of Mordor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The "Teeth of Mordor" does not appear to be a place, thing, or anatomical function described in Wikipedia. A movie with this title appears to be referenced exactly once in a filmography, but since the apparent film has no article, no reason to redirect there. I think this is an attempt at "The Towers of the Teeth", but I wouldn't call this a logical search term for that target. Hog Farm (talk) 22:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thistle Brook (Middle-earth)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not discussed at target article. Hog Farm (talk) 22:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete These rediirects just hide the fact we need to delete lots of links. Outliking in LotR articles is just crazy.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Middle-earth inns[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 16#List of Middle-earth inns

Duin Dhaer[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in any article on the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 21:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Movie theaters and handpainted movie posters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not a plausible or relevant search term or link. —Matthew - (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Even if it wasn't an unlikely search term, this redirect is likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Longest Street in North America[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirect from an implausible search term. While it is true that Yonge Street was once incorrectly labelled by sources as the "longest street in the world", that's been disproven and is no longer claimed -- however, now that it's lost that braggadocious claim and had the sources chop it back down to its actual length, it definitely does not continue to hold the status of being the longest street in North America either, as it's fifteen miles shorter than the length ascribed to Colfax Avenue in Denver CO. And even Colfax Avenue is merely claimed by some, but not all, sources as the longest street in the United States alone. I can find no sources that make any claims as to the longest street in North America as a whole — but even if there is another street longer than Colfax, it definitely isn't Yonge. Bearcat (talk) 20:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as ambiguous and misleading redirect. Hog Farm (talk) 20:41, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the nominator. Indeed misleading, and risks being that regardless of what it targets. Glades12 (talk) 06:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Noo Yawk[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. If it's of any interest to anyone, my own preference would very strongly be "delete", but consensus is clearly "keep". JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not a plausible search term or link. The only plausible explanation for this redirect that comes to mind is that it was meant as a joke. R'n'B (call me Russ) 02:29, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

'Keep Common enough spelling for how it's heard in a New York accent, or at least perceived as such. It's in Wiktionary. Google finds the term having been used in the NY Times and Post, and in other media sources. It might be obvious enough to an American what it is, but someone whose first language isn't English might not know. "I wouldn't search for this term" doesn't mean nobody would. Redirects are cheap. PaulGS (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per PaulGS. Redirects like this are cheap N harmless. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 13:10, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Even if a joke, it has significant enough coverage in reliable sources that linking and searching for it are plausible. (We even have an article Noo Yawk Tawk, by the way, also connected to its usage). ComplexRational (talk) 14:37, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, retarget to New York English per Glades12 as that seems to be the theme of many RS. ComplexRational (talk) 00:01, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do not delete: This has use in reliable sources,[1][2] and is clearly a plausible search term referring to New York English. I am not sure if the current target is the best though. Glades12 (talk) 17:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Dave Anderson (August 5, 1998). "Sports of The Times; Franco's Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk". The New York Times. Retrieved January 1, 2020.
  2. ^ Sheila McClear (February 6, 2010). "Why the classic Noo Yawk accent is fading away". New York Post. Retrieved January 1, 2020.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It seems like we have a consensus forming against deletion, but I'd like to see a little more discussion of redirect vs. keep before closing (although obviously if editors feel strongly about deletion they should not hesitate to argue for that point as well)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 20:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment: Original research: google:Noo+Yawk gives Urban Dictionary Noo Yawk. –84.46.53.207 (talk) 17:14, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's original research? The redirect itself, others' comments or yours? Glades12 (talk) 19:38, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It was a joke, using Google + Urban Dictionary to get a 3rd opinion is no valid argument, but convinced me that this redirect is no nonsense, fine, and "could" be kept as is.(="should", but IPs aren't supposed to say this in an XFD.) –84.46.53.221 (talk) 23:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:DSC[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Current areas of conflict. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:29, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are too many delsort topics starting with C to single out cricket. ミラP 19:41, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This seems like a pretty cheap retarget/delete given only 10 links. (More likely delete unless someone comes up with a good target.) --Izno (talk) 20:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Girdley Island[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:28, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 18:47, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Ignacio Parada[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 16#Ignacio Parada

Disparity(Brain)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:24, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A redirect with a doubly-malformed qualifier (no space, capital letter) to a DAB page - delete. (Nb The correctly-formed Disparity (brain) exists.) Narky Blert (talk) 15:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Stephen Gabbard[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Steve Gabbard. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:26, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not a useful redirect, subject is not notable and not mentioned in target section. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Greenlander(s)[edit]

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Wikipedia:Weikfield Foods[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete under WP:G6 (uncontroversial maintenance). — Newslinger talk 08:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to have been created mistakenly by a move to the wrong namespace — MarkH21talk 08:14, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Blue Mountains north of Grey Havens[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:21, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is oddly specific, and is probably too specific to be a logical search term. Hog Farm (talk) 06:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Could we bundle these? Having all of them as separate discussions clogs RFD. Glades12 (talk) 10:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Glades12: I agree with you, but I'm not familiar with bundled RfDs, and bundled XfDs often fail on procedural grounds. However, I would be open to bundling very similar ones. If you know how to bundle to an existing RfD, could you either add The Floating Log to the Floating Log entry or point me to where this is explained on Wikipedia? Thanks, Hog Farm (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • How to (manually) bundle RFDs is explained in the second step of WP:RFD#HOWTO. I am not exactly sure which ones should be bundled either, but I think I can add The Floating Log. Glades12 (talk) 20:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unneeded absurd specificity.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:33, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Four Middle-earth redirects with similar names[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These items do not appear to be mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 06:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Brown Lands/The Brown Lands[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at all in target article. For an explanation as to why I'm RfDing so many of these, AfDs of list articles have led to a lot of stray redirects leading to the section Middle-earth#Geography, and I'm cleaning up the more obscure ones. Hog Farm (talk) 06:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: Neither Mordor nor The Two Towers mention it, The Brown Lands are irrelevant at the moment and no likely search term. OTOH Brown Lands has a 12 years old edit history, maybe {{R to section}} #The Two Towers and wait for better times.
Thinking longer about this, it's actually a generic term, reducing it to Middle-earth violates WP:POLA, on the border to a "harmful redirect" (per policy). How about rename without leaving a redirect (name TBD) + retarget? That would defeat the purpose of keeping historic redirects as is (per policy), but at least preserve the edit history. –84.46.53.207 (talk) 17:34, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Killed my convoluted suggestion, John Pack Lambert's WP:KISS plan is better. –84.46.53.221 (talk) 23:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC):[reply]
  • Delete preserving page histories is not a worthwhile goal when we are dealing with what amounts to a non-notable subject.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:33, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Floating Log[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:18, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the context of Middle-earth (target article) at all. Delete as weird fancruft. Hog Farm (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: An inn mentioned once in Lord of the Rings, which the characters don't visit. Very weird fancruft!--Jack Upland (talk) 07:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Note: I added The Floating Log now. Glades12 (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:32, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Forsaken Inn[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned once, and not at the target article, in a passing sense. No reason to redirect to Bree (Middle-earth) if there's only one minor mention of it there, or to Middle-earth, since no mentions there. Hog Farm (talk) 03:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: this is an abandoned building mentioned once in Lord of the Rings.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Minor miscellaeneous places in Arda[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minor places in Arda redirects to Arda (Tolkien). However, I cannot anticipate "Minor miscellaeneous places in Arda" being a logical search term, even without the apparent misspelling of "miscellaneous." Hog Farm (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Ibrahim S. Quraishi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An editor added Ibrahim S. Quraishi to the cast list of The Night Clerk but Quraishi's part is so insignificant that it's not even listed on IMDb so there's no sense in keeping a redirect. Pichpich (talk) 03:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to discuss the deletion of this page. I recreated the page for Ibrahim S. Quraishi and disclosed paid contribution by putting up the tags as required by Wikipedia guidelines in my User Talk page and the article's talk page. However, it was still flagged and removed as a paid contribution. I was just now informed by one editor that there were issues with the tone of the article, that it sounds promotional, and that is something I am ready to work on. Redrafting the article to make it neutral and properly sourced. Ashley.Bell (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Gwathlo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned approximately four times in all articles in Wikipedia (three articles, none of which are the target article), all very briefly, and with no clear priority for redirect. As an implausible search term, I suggest deletion. Hog Farm (talk) 03:23, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Langwell (Middle-earth)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:11, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned once in the Wikipedia, and the one mention (not the target article) is is in a page that does not seem likely to survive AfD. Hog Farm (talk) 03:12, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: an unimportant fictional river.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete' There is a real river with name, so lets have that instead of this.scope_creepTalk 21:56, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Lond Daer Ened (Two spellings)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does not appear to be mentioned anywhere in the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 03:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Note: Originally nominated separately, but have been bundled due to the redirects' similarity. Hog Farm (talk) 21:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:31, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Druwaith Iaur[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 10:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned once each in a minor way on three different pages in the English Wikipedia, none of which are the target article. Since this is really obscure fancruft with no clear priority for the redirect, I think deletion is a definite possibility. Hog Farm (talk) 03:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bundushathûr[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article whatsoever and implausible redirect target. Is mentioned at Khuzdul, but since Khuzdul is a language article where "Bundushathur" is only mentioned as an example, it makes little sense to redirect there either. Hog Farm (talk) 02:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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All-welcome Inn[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:13, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article whatsoever. Appears to have been redirected to the target article after the redirect of the original target. Hog Farm (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: According to this, the inn was only mentioned in a 1960 rewrite of The Hobbit that was never published.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This got a LOL from me. Although I have a sinking feeling that either Christopher Tolkien or another Tolkien family member will at some point find a way to publish the 1960 version of the Hobbit, with a few more changes, so that All-welcome Inn will exist in a published work. If that does happen it will still not be notable though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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