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April 20[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 20, 2020.

The Simps Movie[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Implausible search term, no incoming links, clutters search results for legitimate uses of "simp." as an abbreviation for "simplified" (link). Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Economy of Wake Island[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 28#Economy of Wake Island

Carn Dum[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Lord of the Rings: War in the North#Plot. signed, Rosguill talk 02:00, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at target. Other articles also only mention it along the way and do not really describe it. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Mountains of Angmar[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Just an obscure bit of trivia. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Misty Mountains#Fictional geography where it is mentioned. I see no reason to delete, since a clear mention of it is present. For awhile, Misty Mountains redirected to Moria, so all of the redirects to Misty Mountains got bot fixed to Moria. The redirection of Misty Mountains was undone, but not all of the redirects were retargeted back. Hog Farm (talk) 18:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Simp Ep[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Implausible search term, no incoming links, clutters search results for legitimate uses of "simp." as an abbreviation for "simplified" (link). Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:11, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lift plus[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Live+. signed, Rosguill talk 01:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lyft plus is offered by Lyft and Lyft is pronounce Lift Tsla1337 (talk) 22:04, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lyft coupons[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of coupons on article Tsla1337 (talk) 21:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. This should have been deleted in 2018 instead of being redirected. - Eureka Lott 22:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Wikipedia is not in the business of providing people with discounts. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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American Interventionism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Foreign interventions by the United States. (non-admin closure) buidhe 21:40, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Current target is too narrow and clearly unsuitable. Can someone find a better target, or should this be deleted? King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:50, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 21:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you are using an Apple system, the character in the redirect should look like this.

Should this point to the current target, Apple, Inc, Fonts on Macintosh#Apple logo, or somewhere else? For those who can't see this character, it is a PUA character (U+F8FF) that renders as an Apple logo on macOS systems (image). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:25, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget - The most logical thing, I think, is to go to 'Fonts on Macintosh#Apple logo' and thus give readers information about the logo itself. I don't particularly like the current target as it stands. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 12:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget. The now removed, unreferenced section suggests this is the most common use. I would add a hatnote on the target, however. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:46, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine to Private Use Areas#Vendor use or keep as is. Its use as the Apple logo is mentioned there, but unless clear evidence is presented that this is the character's primary use, I see no reason to not make it easier for readers searching this character in different contexts (for one, the Klingon mummification glyph). See also this, why not to favor the Apple logo. ComplexRational (talk) 01:28, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep should redirect to what it is part of, not just one use of it, even if it is the most prominent. Peter James (talk) 08:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or create disambiguation page. While Apple logo is the primary use (e.g. Google includes Apple Inc. results), it is not the only one, and it is quite confusing since non-Apple users see different things. I think it would be better to use a disambiguation page with something like this: The Unicode character  (U+F8FF) may refer to: (1) Fonts on Macintosh#Apple logo ([1] (2) Windows logo ([2]) (3) Klingon mummification glyph ([3]) (4) other system-dependent usages, per Private Use Areas. It would probably need a fifth entry for its usage in IBM codepage 1449 ([4]) but I didn't find what that usage is yet. --MarioGom (talk) 07:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Danionin Common Name Disambiguation[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 27#Danionin Common Name Disambiguation

B Dasher[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While this vehicle was introduced in Mario Kart DS, it has also appeared in Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Mario Kart Tour, potentially making it ambiguous. Also, the B Dasher is not mentioned by name on the Mario Kart DS article. It had 70 views in all of 2019, so it's not being used very much either. – numbermaniac 15:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Super weak retarget to Mario Kart, since it appears in multiple games in the series, or delete because it doesn't mention any specific karts by name (nor do the articles about any of the other games mentioned, for that matter). Regards, SONIC678 21:49, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 18:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I don't think it would be appropriate to mention this in the broader page 'Mario Kart' at all since listing the varieties of different carts by name would be unnecessary trivia. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Angmar[edit]

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Draft:Betviton[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Target article only mentioned this name, because the creator of the redirect put it there, without providing a source. I removed it for that reason. Page was previously deleted as unambiguous advertising. Kleuske (talk) 18:06, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Redirect which is an improper use of the "Draft:" namespace that doesn't meet the requirements to be kept per WP:RDRAFT since it is not a {{R from move}}. Steel1943 (talk) 22:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I agree. This isn't appropriate at all. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 12:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Cultural insensitivity[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Cultural sensitivity. "Cross-cultural sensitivity" was recently moved. (non-admin closure) buidhe 21:37, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These terms don't appear to be equivalent. "Insensitivity" is not mentioned at the target. Based on search internet results, "cultural insensitivity" appears to mostly refer to unintentional failures to accommodate individuals' cultural norms (often in a business setting), whereas Cultural racism describes intentional opposition to multicultural society. I would suggest deletion unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes, the intent makes both terms different. Cultural racism argues that culture are intrinsically incompatible between each others and cannot coexist within the same territory, whereas cultural insensitivity ignores the consequences of an action on the sensitivity of another culture. Azerty82 (talk) 19:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't assume that someone who is culturally insensitive is culturally racist (I think intention is far less important here though), but I would see forms of cultural insensitivity deriving from (cultural) racism. It's not that there is simply no overlapping, but I would agree that cultural insensitivity can be a distinct, but related, concept. --Goldsztajn (talk) 19:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, they're not totally unrelated, but I'm concerned that with the status quo, anyone searching for "cultural insensitivity" is not going to learn anything about what they're looking for, and could even incorrectly infer that these terms are equivalent. signed, Rosguill talk 20:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I would argue that the intent makes the difference, although not as I have expressed it. Cultural racism implies the belief in the intrinsic superiority of a culture over others, whereas cultural insensitivity does not necessarily have this connotation. Azerty82 (talk) 22:06, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Cross-cultural sensitivity. Cultural insensitivity may be due to unawareness of cultural differences. It is something you may find in many tourists ;-) --MarioGom (talk) 00:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget - I agree that this should go to 'cross-cultural sensitivity'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:35, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Cross-cultural sensitivity. Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:56, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Matthew Webster[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:19, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. The draft in the redirect's history is being developed at Draft:Matthew D. Webster, there's no need for the revisions in the redirect's history. signed, Rosguill talk 17:47, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete once the new article is released. I'm fine with the redirect being removed. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:50, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Kenneth Hulme[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:21, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence that any of these names have been used by the target; their real name was Leslie Hulme, their stage name was Ken Barrie. I would suggest deletion unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: I'm going to WP:INVOLVED relist this because it had been accidentally deleted a couple minutes after it had been relisted 4 days ago, and was finally restored today. Moving this to today's listing so that the discussion can receive its due diligence, and there would be a point for the initial relisting.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Utopes (talk / cont) 17:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - I disagree with the notion that these are helpful. Deletion seems to be the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:30, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - Jumbled together names, potentially harmful if some of these hybrid names are actual people's names in the future. Hog Farm (talk) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Anaheim FC[edit]

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Samux[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 27#Samux

CCP Virus[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 28#CCP Virus

  • Keep This name is in common use, as I have seen it in print and on television in the last 24 hours. It is a POV name, but we should enable our readers to find out what it really means easily by having a redirect. Whether the name is epxlained in the article is a different issue, and I do not think it is required for all redirects. A possible alternative destination is Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2‎. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It seems to have adequate usage on social media. --Hiveir (talk) 11:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

COVIDemic[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 27#COVIDemic

  • Keep This name is used in an informal sense. Whether the name is explained in the article is a different issue, and I do not think it is required for all redirects. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Starspinner[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. Article creator has the strange habit of writing stub articles on non (or borderline) notable subjects and immediately redirecting them, but if the subject is not even mentioned at the target, then this is not a useful redirect. Fram (talk) 09:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Non-notable science-fiction work that, while it does indeed exist, isn't particularly worth discussing in the context of the publisher's page. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not mentioned anywhere else in English WP; no good target. Narky Blert (talk) 12:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Megan Wants a Millionaire Cancellation[edit]

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Gamelog[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. Article creator has the strange habit of writing stub articles on non (or borderline) notable subjects and immediately redirecting them, but if the subject is not even mentioned at the target, then this is not a useful redirect. Fram (talk) 09:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Impedes searching. "Gamelog" appears in one form or another in over 200 articles. Narky Blert (talk) 12:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The concept of a "gamelog" is an incredibly vague one that can be based on all varieties of different entities. I agree. Let's simply have people use the search engine. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Gems for Death[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. Article creator has the strange habit of writing stub articles on non (or borderline) notable subjects and immediately redirecting them, but if the subject is not even mentioned at the target, then this is not a useful redirect. Fram (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Not mentioned anywhere else in English WP so far as I can see. Narky Blert (talk) 12:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I'm seeing random mentions of this term online without any particular sense as to what exactly is being referred to. It's possible that different products by this name exist, but they're quite obscure to say the least. No notability. I agree. Deletion is totally the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:02, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The Gamer's Connection[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. Article creator has the strange habit of writing stub articles on non (or borderline) notable subjects and immediately redirecting them, but if the subject is not even mentioned at the target, then this is not a useful redirect. Fram (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Trump virus[edit]

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Artemis Fowl: The Ending Of All Time[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 01:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Back in 2007, when the sixth Artemis Fowl book was still upcoming, this article was written, possibly in anticipation that this would be its new title and that it would be the last one in the series (turns out that wasn't the case, it was released in 2008 under Artemis Fowl and the Time Paradox and the series ended with The Last Guardian)...and this was later blanked and redirected to the article about The Time Paradox. It might be time for deletion unless someone can find a reliable source showing that this is an alternative title (e.g., working title, title in another country) for the book (or a justification can otherwise be provided). Regards, SONIC678 04:11, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - The term "the ending of all time" is used in a variety of different contexts, but none of them seem to involve the book series. As stated above, this appears inappropriate and not worth keeping at all. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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