Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 15

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December 15[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 15, 2019.

Of Alexandria Chaeremon[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just closed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 7#Of Athens Plutarch as "delete", and it was suggested there that similar redirects listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/1911 verification/O should also be deleted. I present them now for discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 20:23, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all. The unusual word order and (lack of) punctuation makes these unlikely to be link targets and therefore useless as redirects. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:34, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per David Eppstein. These redirects are not useful with this reversed word order, for they will not be linked and it would be rather unusual to search for them in this way. If they were intended to be index entries, they should at least have commas, but that is a seperate matter for discussion if necessary. ComplexRational (talk) 21:23, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per discussion above. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:57, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Nobody's going to search for them under these titles. It's just an artifact of an old article creation process. P Aculeius (talk) 14:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all as above. Not the title of some media either. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Libertarian black-clad-mad-bomberism[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Invented neologism. Unlikely to be useful. Recommend delete. czar 19:11, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Anarchism (Viciousite)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely to be useful. "Viciousite" alone is not a common search term in relation to Sid Vicious. Recommend delete. czar 19:10, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Nonsense on several axes. 1. "Viciousite" is, per nom, not a commonly used term to relate something to Sid Vicious. 2. "Viciousite", were it A Thing (which it is not), would presumably mean "advocating the doctrines of Sid Vicious" (cf. "Trotskyite", "Leninite"), especially when it is modifying a word like "anarchism", which already describes a political philosophy. 3. Sid Vicious wasn't even a member of the Sex Pistols until some months after "Anarchy in the UK" was released. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 09:36, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Illusions (band)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25#Illusions (band)

Required reading[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25#Required reading

Yo dawg[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. As AngusWOOF has not seen fit to introduce the changes suggested in their conditional keep vote, we default to delete. No prejudice against recreation and/or further discussion if someone introduces mention of "Yo dawg" at either of the target articles mentioned. signed, Rosguill talk 01:11, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect has alternated between Xzibit#Internet meme and Pimp My Ride#Pop culture references. Neither section exists, the first was removed in March 2014, the second in April 2019. Wikipedia currently does not mention anything about the "yo dawg" meme anywhere. Only incoming link is from the article Know Your Meme. This redirect is now useless. Delete. JIP | Talk 13:38, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 18:25, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hell, or High Water[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Hell or High Water. (dab page) czar 19:14, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should we keep this redirect (with a comma) targeting the album on which it is a song, or retarget to the more general disambiguation page Hell or High Water? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:15, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or send to disambiguation page?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 11:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Since I've already !voted, I'll just say I think it'd be confusing to have two substantially similar redirects, one with a single comma and one without, pointing to two different places. Seems like unnecessary hatnotes to the dab page, personally. Doug Mehus T·C 16:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to the dab page. Google "helpfully" ignores the comma in my search term but even so I'm not seeing the song as a high likelihood target. Thryduulf (talk) 16:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to dab page per above. buidhe 19:11, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that the band's name Woe, Is Me also has those intentional commas and that Hell or Highwater project has its own page. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:24, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @AngusWOOF: Noted. They'll be mentioned on the dab page, if they aren't already. Doug Mehus T·C 00:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as {{R from song}}. Maybe I'm overestimating the degree of intent here, but I think someone searching for this title (with the comma) is specifically looking for the song, not one of the other topics on the dab page. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:27, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, this is the only usage with the comma. Since it's a highly unusual comma placement, I find it very unlikely for someone to search for a different usage with this same comma. Perhaps a hatnote could be deployed just in case. -- Tavix (talk) 00:19, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I still think retargeting to the dab page makes the most sense. No evidence of primary topic here, and who is to say someone entering either phrase wants some music album?Doug Mehus T·C 00:28, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Primary topic for what? "Hell or High Water"? No, no one's talking about moving that disambiguation page. "Hell, or High Water"? Yes, I think so—what other topic has a claim to this name? --BDD (talk) 18:55, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
BDD, thanks for the reply. I assumed Tavix was thinking the Numbers album was primary topic thus !voting to keep targeted to the current target. I think retargeting to the dab page that Airbornemihir first proposed and now Headbomb makes the most sense per my above !vote. Doug Mehus T·C 16:50, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 20:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This is a WP:INVOLVED relisting so the 1 December log page can be closed. Any uninvolved closer may asses the consensus at any time. Thryduulf (talk) 13:19, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Occupied territories of Pakistan[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. While Thryduulf is correct that redirect titles do not need to be neutral, there was a consensus that a single suitable alternative target does not exist and that deletion is preferable. G5 speedy deletion is intended for cleaning up uncontroversially inappropriate pages created by blocked users, and thus isn't really appropriate once multiple editors with varying opinions are involved. signed, Rosguill talk 01:16, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

POV Ymblanter (talk) 09:03, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Uanfala struck my G5 tag on the redir and I'm OK with that. All I ask is that, if this discussion should result in retargeting, the page should be deleted then recreated to WP:DENY the sock any credit. Cabayi (talk) 09:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Metal Gear Solid Drama CD[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 25#Metal Gear Solid Drama CD