Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 10

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September 10[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 10, 2017.

Peirce Middle School[edit]

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. I have (as editor action) disambiguated the page in the same manner as Pierce Middle School. The page is now outside the scope of RfD. WJBscribe (talk) 09:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is more than once pierce middle school (with probably none of them being particularly notable), so having this redirect to one school district doesn't make much sense. menaechmi (talk) 22:04, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep unless the other school has an article. Steel1943 (talk) 00:08, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I'll start by noting that the redirect is "Peirce", not "Pierce". The middle school in South Redford School District is "Pierce", so this would have to be a typo redirect to the current target. That being said, Peirce is a real surname, and it's common enough that there are some middle schools named after a "Peirce". For example, there is a Peirce Middle School in Nantucket Public Schools and West Chester Area School District. -- Tavix (talk) 01:29, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This one was apparently originally an article on the one in West Chester, but was redirected to John D. Pierce Middle School (Michigan) in November [1], and then John D was redirected to the school district and a bot fixed the double redirect. menaechmi (talk) 13:15, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Would it retarget Pierce Middle School then? That would be fine. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:19, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hinduism in Åland[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is no mention of Hinduism at the target Åland_Islands#Religion which is not surprising since 76% of the few thousand residents are Lutheran and immigration is very restricted. Legacypac (talk) 19:57, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Without any discussion of Hinduism at the target, this redirect is misleading. -- Tavix (talk) 02:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. No stats for Hinduism presented, so no redirect. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:29, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hinduism in Abkhazia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Like others in this series, Hinduism does not warrant a mention in the target because it's just not a thing there. Legacypac (talk) 19:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Without any discussion of Hinduism at the target, this redirect is misleading. -- Tavix (talk) 02:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Even Judaism has a section talking about 150 people, so Hinduism would need a similar paragraph to be notable for a redirect. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:27, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hinduism in Christmas Island[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another one where there is no mention at the target. Given there are only about 2000 people, mostly Chinese and Buddhist, I'd be surprised if there are any practitioners of Hinduism on Christmas Island and I have no idea why anyone would even search for this term. It's actually misleading because these redirects get picked up by search engines Legacypac (talk) 18:37, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I agree, this doesn't seem useful at all. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 19:16, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Without any discussion of Hinduism at the target, this redirect is misleading. -- Tavix (talk) 02:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Need sources that specifically list the counts for Hinduism. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:28, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Dramatize[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Dramatization. (non-admin closure) feminist 15:09, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like this is a too specific redirect with other reasonable meanings. I'm not sure what would be better maybe Drama? Neelix list Legacypac (talk) 18:29, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - could mean melodrama, drama, or other things. I don't really see this as useful at all. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 19:12, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Dramatization is a little dic def stub, perhaps retarget there? -- Tavix (talk) 22:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I like that one. Legacypac (talk) 04:02, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The Other Wiki[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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EncyclopediaDramatica and TVTropes both use this to refer to us. KMF (talk) 17:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wolf (TV series)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 20#The Wolf (TV series)

BJ(Broadcasting Jockey)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search term. When this was an "article" (a term I use loosely), it was a not-so-clever way to refer to...well y'know. At the very least, the redirect, with its spacing issues, needs to be moved without retaining the original version. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete this redirect and don't recreate one with the space. Legacypac (talk) 18:46, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete because of the space. As for re-creating the term, is it exclusive to Afreeca? I only see references to the term from sources like allkpop and kotaku which aren't really that reliable. Otherwise it should be more generic like podcasting or youtuber. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:08, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete due to format issues --Lenticel (talk) 05:58, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Spring(hydrology)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely, WP:COSTLY redirect due to lack of a space between the title and the disambiguator. Steel1943 (talk) 16:25, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Mon Not Roy Astron Soc (MNRAS).[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely search term. Someone would search for "Mon Not Roy Astron Soc" or "MNRAS", but never "Mon Not Roy Astron Soc (MNRAS)". Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:23, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete typical rookie editor name for an article. Legacypac (talk) 18:43, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, and per the unlikely period at the end of the redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 20:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Should be either "Mon Not Roy Astron Soc" or "MNRAS". Online papers also show usage of "Mon. Not. Roy. Astron. Soc." [2] but not the abbreviation followed by the acronym and it's a weird disambiguator with a period at the end. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:13, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Torrential[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 20#Torrential

Second Child of Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden and Prince Daniel, Duke of Västergötland[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No longer a plausible or useful redirect now that the child has a name. 173.2.255.128 (talk) 13:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete like the others not useful. Legacypac (talk) 23:02, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a useless redirect. Keivan.fTalk 08:36, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no need for this
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Second Child of Princess Madeleine, The Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland, and Mr. Christopher O'neill[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No longer a plausible or useful redirect now that the child has a name. 173.2.255.128 (talk) 13:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete useless and inplausable search string Legacypac (talk) 18:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Keivan.fTalk 08:35, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not needed
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Second Child of Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this redirect needs to be deleted as this child has already been named, and it's totally unnecessary and useless now. Previous examples include "Second child of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge", a redirect which was deleted after the announcement of that child's actual name (Princess Charlotte of Cambridge). Keivan.fTalk 05:58, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Mini-System[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Weird capitalization makes this an unlikely search term. Given the vagueness of the expression, even the overcapitalization-corrected Mini-system redirect is suspect. PS: The redir used to have actual content as a stub [3], and it might be worth skimming that to see if any of it should merge into Shelf stereo.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  05:30, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as the lower-case one covers the same topic, as well as Mini System and Minisystem. Have not seen any product literature showing Mini-System besides an electronic component company Mini-Systems. [4] AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:35, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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💁[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete without prejudice as to whether an article should be written regarding the emoji. WJBscribe (talk) 09:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The definition for this emoji is "person tipping hand". "Help desk" and "Person tipping hand" are not the same. Steel1943 (talk) 05:29, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per my longstanding opposition to emoji redirects. We are not "emoji-pedia." If we continue down the path of creating redirects for emojis, then it is only a matter of time before readers will be able to use reverse image searches to find articles that correspond to the image. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 14:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete useless and misleading. Legacypac (talk) 18:38, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I've always seen it used to mean "I'm being sassy". This goes to my point about the unicode definitions being useless. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:57, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. According to Emojipedia, the Unicode name is "Information Desk Person". Information desk redirects to help desk, so this one is fine. -- Tavix (talk) 22:29, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Per my comment above, no one knows what it means even if it has an official definition. The question should be whether it is visually unambiguous, which it isn't. Also, on a personal note, I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks it means someone is being sassy according to Emojipedia TonyBallioni (talk) 01:09, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Tavix: Seems different sites have different definitions. The emoji list at Unicode.org defines this emoji as "person tipping hand". Is either source more "official" than the other? IMO, I do not think so, especially considering that Unicode.org and Emojipedia.org are both ".org"s. Steel1943 (talk) 15:12, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • I was wondering about that, because Emojipedia does list both. My assumption is that "information desk person" was the original definition, and it was changed to "person tipping hand" some time later (probably when they gendered it). Since "person tipping hand" has no logical target on Wikipedia, I think the "information desk person" definition would be the only one we can provide a target for. -- Tavix (talk) 16:03, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a bad idea. There's some precedent for Emoji articles, such as Face with Tears of Joy emoji and Pile of Poo emoji. -- Tavix (talk) 21:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete because of the ambiguity, unless an actual article is created as suggested by Andrew D. – Uanfala 12:31, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as ambiguous. Everyone seems to agree that there are at least two plausible targets and that neither is unambiguously primary. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 20:52, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Qiot[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been able to find a logical connection between the redirect and the target. QIOT is only one letter off from BIOT, but Q and B are no where near each other on a keyboard, so I can't see it as a typo redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 01:49, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I oppose that suggestion because this particular product is not discussed at that article. -- Tavix (talk) 18:05, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
+1 oppose per Tavix Legacypac (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, it's also a vague acronym that another group has used for "Quantum Internet of Things" that isn't notable. [6] I suspect the QNAP product is just QNAP Internet of Things. Striking vote. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:12, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. I could not find any sources that use "QIOT" when referring to the British Indian Ocean Territory. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:41, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. My first thought was that the Q was a timezone identifier, but Q corresponds to UTC-4 which is an offset used only in the Americas and BIOT uses UTC+6. Thryduulf (talk) 16:22, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Home stereo system[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Entertainment center. (non-admin closure) feminist 15:06, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This should be a redlink so the proper article gets created. This term almost never means shelf stereo (boombox); the "system" in it indicates it refers to a component stereo system a.k.a. rack stereo system, but these are also redlinks. We appear to somehow actually not yet have the article on the typical home stereo setup of the 1960s through 1990s. These systems are today an integral part of a home theater setup, but even Home theater is a disambiguation page and doesn't include anything pertaining to component/rack home stereo systems in particular. If we really do already have the right article under some name, then this should redirect to it, as should the other redlinks above. The article may really be missing, though. Even at articles like Preamplifier and Audio power amplifier (i.e., specific components of such systems), there's no indication of such an article, and people are writing awkward circumlocutions like "consumer electronics sound products" and "high-end stereo". Also, the Home entertainment system DAB, too, is also conspicuously lacking an entry on the concept, having one for home theaters, and one for computers used as replacements for home stereo systems, but not one for home stereo systems.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  01:15, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hinduism in the British Indian Ocean Territory[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:25, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Religion is not mentioned anywhere at the article, so someone searching this would not even be able to assume how many people aren't Hindu, etc. -- Tavix (talk) 00:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete since the population of BIOT is exactly zero (outside temporary military and support staff stationed there... Legacypac (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and the Hinduism on Mars argument. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:22, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete due to lack of people in said territory to warrant a belief system --Lenticel (talk) 05:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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