Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 20

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April 20[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 20, 2017.

Hodd[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:05, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY. Peiple might be looking for a hod or whatever. Bot creation, eubot. Si Trew (talk) 23:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK I'll take it and draft under R as usual. Si Trew (talk) 08:23, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Made a draft for your consideration. We can probably make it better. On the way I found Hoed, by eubot, listed above. Si Trew (talk) 08:45, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dabify. SimonTrew has done a great job on the disambiguation. (I assume you meant "See also" where you wrote that you couldn't remember, feel free to undo if that's wrong, though). Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, the words went out of my head. "See also" was exactly what I meant, just couldn't find the words. I think there is a comment in there saying so. Si Trew (talk) 12:19, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just warning you, with clean hands, that a bot has notified me at [[1]] sec 35 as stands, that this has been noticed. This is User:DPL bot and probably nothing to worry about. Seems to me we have a strong consensus to dabify. Si Trew (talk) 12:25, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Paasselka[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:25, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) not Germanic but Finnish Si Trew (talk) 23:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, User:Patar knight is right on this one. Usually eubot has a habit of mangling Finnish names, but didn't on this one, it is a straight speedily keep. Si Trew (talk) 07:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@SimonTrew: per WP:IAR, I am ignoring all pertinent rules and deputizing you to close these discussions yourself if you elect to withdraw them in good faith and there have been no competing arguments. To do so, please place directly below the discussion header this code: {{subst:rfd top|'''withdrawn''' by nominator. {{nac}} ~~~~}}, and directly below the last line of the discussion: {{subst:rfd bottom}}. Thanks in advance for helping with the administrative load. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Ivanvector: WP:XFDC was extended to RfD a couple weeks ago. Now, closing a discussion is literally two clicks. While I agree with you that Simon should start closing his own discussions (and start doing some WP:BEFORE!!!), it's really not as big of a deal as it once was. -- Tavix (talk) 15:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I've picked up a new tool today. Also I left out some steps in my instructions (like removing the templates from the nom'd pages) so perhaps this was bad advice. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:23, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I will close the discussion if I make a cock-up. I didn't think it was wise to do it in this case, but thanks for the kinda "deputising". I do actually check and do my homework, but sometimes I miss. Two more lists gone red today. Si Trew (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Mobius loop[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator

(eubot) this would seem to me like a straight keep, listing because I am a bit unsure of myself when it comes to eubot ones. Si Trew (talk) 23:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, but most people would call it a "Mobius strip", wouldn't they, not a "Mobius loop"? But I guess it does no harm... 'Keep and (I shall) mark as {{R from other name}}. Si Trew (talk) 07:12, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Dilly Hussain[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:29, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete, there is nothing about Dilly Hussain in the redirect article. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. Si Trew (talk) 07:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:REDLINK and WP:XY. From the Middle East Eye website: "Dilly Hussain is the deputy editor of British Muslim news site 5Pillars and a political blogger for the Huffington Post UK." There is no information on this person at the current target or anywhere else on Wikipedia at the moment, but several equally plausible targets. If they are notable they should have their own article. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:08, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Huanuco (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:08, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Another disambiguation that makes things more ambiguous Si Trew (talk) 20:34, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, Delete. The reason that I bang on about these (disambiguation) ones is not that they have or have not diacritics. There is already a disambiguation and so to have the incorrect spelling is reamiguating it. That to me seems slightly worse than harmless. Anone searching (and I realise there are many ways to search) now has two paths to the same destination, as if they were Robert Frost or something. It is not the worst, but I can't see what good comes of having a bot-created redirect to a disambiguation. Si Trew (talk) 07:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Tavix and Patar knight. Every page title with diacritics should be accessible from the same title without, per WP:DIACRITICS. The only reason we wouldn't have this redirect is if there were separate disambiguation pages for "Huanuco" and "Huánuco", but they would still be linked to each other. Thryduulf (talk) 22:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Voodoosult[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete both. The consensus is that substituting the Latin c with a Cyrillic s (looks like c) is wrong already, and Eubot made the mistake obvious by deriving Voodoosult from it. Deryck C. 17:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) I think this is a bit too far out. A back-formation. as usual. Not at target. Si Trew (talk) 20:27, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, which C is Cyrillic? Eubot will have "translated" it. Does it make any sense thus? I can't see any at the target either, but I bet there is one somewhere, just my poor little laptop can't display it. I have checked the source and can't find one, but I am sure you are right. Si Trew (talk) 07:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There's literally only one c in "Voodooсult". I do hope you can figure it out. -- Tavix (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have added Voodooсult to this nomination, as the keep/delete rationale will be the same for both. For me it's delete as I can't figure out why a band originating in Germany would use a Cyrillic с in their name otherwise stylized with Latin script, there is no discussion of this at the target, the redirects both get no use, and the creator of the Voodooсult redirect has not edited in 10 years. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:00, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Vikor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy retarget to Vikør. -- Tavix (talk) 01:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not at target. Probably another back-formation by the bot, but I can't see it. Si Trew (talk) 18:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy retarget to Vikør, which the creation summary clearly indicates is the intended target but which has since been turned into a disambiguation page. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedily retarget as above, close and keep. Si Trew (talk) 20:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I did check the history and did a bit of WP:BEFORE, but I still coouldn't see that. Eubot gets you like that. Si Trew (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Yueksek Sadakat[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:18, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
IN the confusion with Twinkle I forgot to say this is eubot and nominated by me, not Germanic but Turkish Si Trew (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Mac OS XI[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:29, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unreleased version of Mac OS per WP:CRYSTAL. The latest version is macOS 10.12. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. as per nom. They might call it anything else. We didn't have Windows 9 for example. Si Trew (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, especially when they have been incrementing by .1 for releases. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Also doesn't help the redirect's cause when they've renamed the OS to macOS and dropped the "X" entirely. Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:01, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Only seems to be used as a speculative term on forums by very few people. Not a generally accepted term and likely to cause confusion by redirection. PriceDL (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Keflavikurflugvoellur[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:10, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not germanic, but Finnish Si Trew (talk) 17:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

At Google Search Books? That is handy. The fact it is used once, and I will assume it is in that book, is not too much to say about it. That just means an English translator, or more likely the printer publisher, has translated it that way, which still doesn't count. Consensus is in general to scrub Finno-Ugric language ones made up by eubot. So Hungarian and Finnish tend to go. Germanic, consensus is to keep. Some are on the borderline because of, er, the borders changed... Si Trew (talk) 07:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really think that someone searching for Keflavik is going to write or search for "Keflavikurflugvoellur"? They won't. This is a back-formation by User:Eubot that is just downright WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 09:17, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You already have a mixed-language redirect in that "flugvoellellur" is not the Finnish for "Airport". It's a mixed-language redirect created by Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 09:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why would you want it to be Finnish? This airport is in Iceland, and flugvöllur is Icelandic for "airport". Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Maraja[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Nomination withdrawn by SiTrew. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:31, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) that seems a long way out to me, but is probably a keep Si Trew (talk) 17:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep - one can see from the creation summary that this is a direct transliteration from Marajá which redirects to the same target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Righty ho, Speedily keep per nom, me. User:Ivanvector have you seen we got list 12 all done?! Yay! Si Trew (talk) 07:24, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Cooperative online dictionary of trauma[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:30, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A soft redirect to a glossary in Wiktionary where it's not mentioned. I think it's strange to redirect something like this to Wiktionary in the first place as it's more of an encyclopedic topic than a dictionaric topic. -- Tavix (talk) 17:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete the book is not mentioned in the references section for that wiktionary entry. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am against cross-wiki redirects anyway but for a different reason. (Because I just don't think they help.) But for now I am not sure on this particular one, considering that "co-operative" can be spelled/written in so many ways. Is it useful? I would say not. But on the other hand I suppose people will search that way. It gets a steady trickle of hits, about twice a week one or two... so it is harmless, but probably those are bot hits or in its absence they would find it anyway. Si Trew (talk) 07:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per the nomination, this is a very specific title. If someone is searching for this they almost certainly want encyclopaedic information about the subject, not a general dictionary of trauma. Thryduulf (talk) 23:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Note that the nominator is currently blocked and is involved at a discussion at ANI, there was essentially no consensus to delete other than comments from the nominator. (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:42, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) that is WP:FORRED. Si Trew (talk) 17:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And Agglomeration community is not English then, and the back end is French? Je peut parler francais comme une vache espanol. "Agglomeration" makes no sense in English, it would mean "built-up area" roughly, this is just WP:RFD#D5 nonsense.
  • Keep per Tavix. Direct translation of the former pre-2016 term. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete. You cannot translate "Agglomeration" in that way, it should never have been translated in that way in the first place. Eubot making more of them is just adding salt to the fire. "Agglomeration" is also traffic jam". Should I go around creating Traffic jam community of the Angers and so on? Si Trew (talk) 07:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Combined" is probably the nearest, it is a word hard to translate really, the essence of it. All of these "Agglomeration" ones should never have been made, that is a shitty translation. Si Trew (talk) 07:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean. Agglomeration is the English translation of agglomération, is it not? (Wiktionnaire says it is) And the name of the community is "Angers Loire Métropole". Prior to 2016 this was Communauté d'agglomération d'Angers Loire Métropole, which this title translates properly other than missing diacritics. It is now named Communauté urbaine ... or "urban community" in English. I think it should be "Urban community of the Angers Loire Métropole", but it's the right target nonetheless. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Gyoergy Kolonics[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:21, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) another bit of nonsense WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 17:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Gyoergy is a transliteration that is in use. [4] ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete. this is a crappy way to translate the Hungarian name. "George" would be the correct translation as in, for example George Mikes. It is just a crappy bot creation. "Gyorgy" I can accept but not this. Si Trew (talk) 07:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Crappy or not, it's in use by such sources as the LA Times. Thryduulf (talk) 23:19, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Groefaz[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:11, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is proably alright , standard Germanic dong, but since it goes to a glossary that doesn't have it, I think this is a bit iffy. Si Trew (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep - clearly indicated in the creation summary that this is intended to transliterate Gröfaz, which is at the target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Ivanvector. Valid transliteration of term at target section.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes... welll, it is a transliteration I grant you that. But it is not at the glossary of terms. If someone wants to (why I don't know) look up specifically "Groefaz" in a glossary, they are not going to find it there. WP:NOTDICT, essentially. Si Trew (talk) 07:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Andres oend[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Andres oend

Doeme Sztojay[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 16:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Coty Inc Class A[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Coty Inc Class A

Vornado Realty Trust Reit Trust[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete as unopposed and nominator has demonstrated that there is something wrong with these titles. Deryck C. 10:40, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All unlikely titles with redundant terms added in. A REIT is the same as a realty or property trust, and all of them are also trusts. The titles are also oddly truncated in most cases. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete not helpful to keep redirects of shorthands of mutual fund notations for a company. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Fortune Brands Home And Security I[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete as unopposed and nominator has demonstrated that there is something wrong with these titles. Deryck C. 10:40, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All strangely truncated titles, suggesting the (mis)use of an automated tool to mass-create redirects. Unlikely search terms. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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NASDAQ:NDAQ[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect format for a {{R from stock symbol}} creating a pseudo-namespace redirect. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Texas Instrument Inc[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Texas Instrument Inc

User:Gears of War/Sandbox/Ubidays[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#User:Gears of War/Sandbox/Ubidays

Ketchapp Games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. I'm not sure I see consensus for either of the two proposed rcats, so I'm leaving that to editor discretion. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:14, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how to handle this one, but "Ketchapp Games" is neither the official, nor a frequently used title, I heard it that time or another, but that's about it. Lordtobi () 10:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, just mark as {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}. Or do you suggest it be retargeted to Ketchup or what? 10:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
It's probably best we make a DAB and cut this redirect in the meantime. Si Trew (talk) 10:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's pretty common for game studios go have "Games" after their name, so it's a valid {{R from incorrect name}} assuming this is not a legal name. The unique spelling precludes any target being sought. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's true, but then you're getting into it being WP:NOT a billboard or advertisement. Which considering what we had yesterday, I am not sure of. Perhaps I am too cynical. Si Trew (talk) 08:02, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I was not going to vote on this one, but I've found a few websites that has called them "Ketchapp Games": [5] [6] [7]. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:17, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Anarchyte's findings. Thryduulf (talk) 23:30, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Games created by Ketchapp[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 2#Games created by Ketchapp

Ubisoft Ukraine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:21, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Studio was never known as "Ubisoft Ukraine", it was mistake made on many Ubisoft studios that were confused with their coutry-named marketing offices. AFAIK, there wasn't even such an office in Ukraine. Lordtobi () 10:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BBubng this in with the others. Combine. Si Trew (talk) 10:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Marketing offices aren't notable, but game studios are. Makes sense to redirect to the only such game studio in the country. It also might have gotten use (incorrectly?) in the past [8]. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And how is "Ubisoft Ukraine" somehow more notable than "Ubisoft Hungary" or "Ubisoft Czech Republic". Do I have to call it? I call it. WP:COMPANY. These are not notable. Si Trew (talk) 20:01, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Am I the only one who has the feeling that Ubisoft is trying to get its name known by "advertising" on Wikipedia? It is a small start-up company, good luck to them. Most of their games only work on Windows, not cross-platform except a couple work on IoS. If they should be advertising to anyone it should be me. Good luck to them but this is not the place to do it. Si Trew (talk) 20:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, redirects certainly don't have to meet a notability standard. Ubisoft has a studio in Kiev, so it's plausible that referring to it incorrectly in this war will occur. Ubisoft doesn't seem to have studios in those countries, so those should stay red. Ubisoft is absolutely massive and has an income of more than half a billion Euros each year. It certainly doesn't need to "advertise" on Wikipedia. If you feel any of these studios aren't notable, take it to AFD.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:33, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Guillemot, Inc.[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Guillemot, Inc.

NADEO[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep per WP:SNOW. -- Tavix (talk) 01:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We don't usually make redirects with names in full-capitalsation. Redirect only had 30 clicks in its 2-year lifespan. Lordtobi () 10:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We actually do make {{R from other capitalization}}s, all the time. Because the search engine has got a bit better, we don't really need it, but this goes for a Keep, Two years is long enough, it wasn't made yesterdazy, Si Trew (talk) 10:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ivory Tower (game developer)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary disambiguation, redirect only receives an average of >1 visits per day. Lordtobi () 10:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. We already have a disambiguation, we don't need two. That is ambiguating a disambiguation. Si Trew (talk) 10:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Blue Byte (version 2)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Blue Byte (version 2)

Ubisoft Romania[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Ubisoft Romania

Ubisoft Kyiv[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:57, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unofficially localized version of target name. Wikipedia is not a dictioniary, especially not on fictional words. Lordtobi () 09:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Odd to call the official romanization used by the Ukrainian government a "fictional word". ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    By "fictional word" I meant 'Ubisoft Kiev'--pardon if I didn't express that properly. Lordtobi () 15:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If "Ubisoft Kiev" is fictional, take it to WP:AFD. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Redirect is fine, as for the article, take it to AfD if you feel like it isn't notable. Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:45, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Infovia[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Infovia

Ubisoft Quebec City[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. I find the arguments from Ivanvector and Patar knight that this is correct and useful sufficient to keep this. Thryduulf (talk) 11:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Target never held the name "Ubisoft Quebec City" in primary or secondary sources, only some IMDb and IGN databases (tertiary sources!) mention, but do not detail out, that name. Lordtobi () 09:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am one of the few here who have actually been to Quebec City, and the capital, Ottowa. If it is not in RS kill it. Strong delete. Si Trew (talk) 09:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actually User:Ivanvector lives somewhere in Canada. He would be the expert on this one. Si Trew (talk) 09:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, Ubisoft's official site calls it "Ubisoft Quebec". -Einstein95 (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment ((responding to ping)) - Ubisoft Québec is physically located in Quebec City, as the city is commonly known amongst Anglophones to distinguish it from the Province of Quebec, and in this case may further disambiguate this location from Ubisoft Montreal, also located in the Province of Québec. The redirect is not wrong, but is it useful? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As Ivanvector notes, many people call the city Quebec City, and this helps distinguish it from Ubisoft Montreal. At best useful, at worst harmless.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Austro-Hungarian coroana[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Keep Thryduulf (talk) 12:53, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) this can go speedily. The Korona or Corona, fine, but this is a bot creation from a misspelling. This is well too far out. I think Speedily Delete. Si Trew (talk) 09:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. A simple Google Books search that anyone can do in ten seconds [9], or even searching Wikipedia (see: Coroana) would show that this is Romanian translation for the Austro-Hungarian currency. Given that large parts of Romania were under Habsburg rule for centuries, this should be kept. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And a simple dictionary search in your own head will tell you that "coroana" is not a word. In Hungarian it would be with Korona. In other languages i would be in several. This isn't oene of them. Wikipedia, the misleading encyclpoaedia. Si Trew (talk) 15:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is Romanian, without the diacritic, which is fine per WP:DIACRITICS. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is not fine. I can speak a bit of Romanian, a lot of Roma live around here. This is nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you telling me that "Austro-Hungarian coroana" is Romanian? That just makes me laugh. Si Trew (talk) 16:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
coroana goes to DAB, by the way. I know what it means, none of the entries have this spelling. This is just wrong. Si Trew (talk) 16:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And your Google Books search brings up for me Romanian dictionaries and nothing more. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"coroana" is Romanian, without the diacritic. Having the country name in English is standard (e.g. Turkish lira). The dictionaries show that coroana and krone both mean "crown", and some of the sources do refer to the two analogously. [10] Austro-Hungarian_krone#Name also supports this and notes that the Romanian spelling was apprently used on Austro-Hungarian currency in Romanian-heavy areas. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We are not doing numismatism here. I think this one needs more discussion. That links throuh to "Krone", not "Coroana". I know what an English Crown is or whatever, that is not the point. Si Trew (talk) 17:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about money it is about crowned heads of state etc. WP:XY at the least. Si Trew (talk) 17:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Besides our article make this connection, it's made in numerous academic papers (e.g. [11] at n 12). It's no more a case of WP:XY than Chinese Yuan (is it about Yuan-era people), Japanese Yen (Circles in Japan?) or British Pound (maybe they're looking for locations housing stray dogs?). ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:50, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep This seems like a quite implausible search term, and the total lack of page views backs that up; but WP:CHEAP applies and Patar knight makes a good argument for keeping. Sideways713 (talk) 20:41, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Zuercher Oberland[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Well is it or sn't it. It's not English, Iffy. Si Trew (talk) 09:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes... but it's a bit nonsence... Withdrawn by nominator (me). Si Trew (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Gueenes[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Gueenes

Correao[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubo). This spelling would not exist but for Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Pokemon Water Blue[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) probably via neelix. I dunno. Patently Water Blue is not FireRed and LeafGreen, on any reasonable search. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 09:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Possibly got confused with Pokemon Blue, but either way this isn't a real thing and is an implausible redirect. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A user, when typing this in the search box, would probably mean Pokémon Blue for Game Boy. I see why this redirect exists -- for those who were confused that the partner to FireRed is LeafGreen and not something like WaterBlue, but I still stand against this redirect, for the fact that it has never existed and never will exist. Manfred (talk) 00:12, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Peck Building[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 2#Peck Building

A (betu)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#A (betu)

Ubisoft Italy[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 2#Ubisoft Italy

Valcea (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 12:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) This does not disambiguate in any way at all... it clutters Si Trew (talk) 09:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, it hinders. There is already a disambiguation page. Now we have a bot created misspelling to that same disambiguation page. That is just clutter, and doesn't help but hinders people searching. Si Trew (talk) 20:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Kiar[edit]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 11:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) this may be a bit too far out. Probably OK. Not in article, though, with this spelling. I could imagine people would look for the Ford Kia or something, perhaps better as red. Weak delete. Si Trew (talk) 08:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate. I've made a draft DAB at the page. If this happens, the hatnote at the current target should be fixed to point at the DAB. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • DAB it as Patar said above. Si Trew (talk) 17:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ubiquitous Software[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 2#Ubiquitous Software

Hybride Technologies[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 1#Hybride Technologies

Judaeo-Golpaygani[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot). On the face of it, this makes a reasonable redirect. "Judaeo-" after all is an all right English prefix. Since this is a back-formation by a bot, I do think we have to get reliable sources that this term is used in real life beyond Wikipedia. Listing then checking. Si Trew (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unsure. I see hits for this, some of which are obviously derived from Wikipedia but others I'm not sure about their indpendence. Thryduulf (talk) 05:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. Judaeo is a legitimate spelling. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as a very plausible (mis?)spelling. – Uanfala (talk) 12:54, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ubisoft redirects of entities that do not exist[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all but the last two, which I find no consensus to delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Target holds no information on the given subject, and subject itself does not exist. Lordtobi () 08:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Lordtobi: have you just been fired from Ubisoft or what? Go carefully, because they do have information on the subject. I list a lot from eubot lists, I am just saying, it can look like that if you're not careful. Si Trew (talk) 08:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And also thanks that I am not the only one here tidying up the mess at Wikipedia! Si Trew (talk) 08:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • (on Ubi Soft Entertainemt Ltd. / Ubisoft Entertainment Inc) Delete, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Si Trew (talk) 08:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the last two (but especially the last one) as {{R from incorrect name}}. Not too unlikely that people might not be familiar with the precise legal classification of the company. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Note, though, that no company by the name "Ubisoft Entertainment Inc" (in what variation ever) exists, as the French HQs are "Ubisoft Entertainment SA", while the North American subsidiary is simply "Ubisoft, Inc."; Ubi Soft Entertainment LtdLimited did exist, though the article itself holds no information on the British marketing office, really, and it is not a plausible term after all. Lordtobi () 20:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all but the last one. The 2nd to last could possibly be kept, but "Ubi Soft" isn't written anywhere, so I'm neutral on that one. The last one is 100% viable and should be kept. Anarchyte (work | talk) 13:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Rainer Bluem[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:45, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Germanic, but you can't bugger about with surnames like that. He was not called "Bluem" Si Trew (talk) 08:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Valid transliteration. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep These types of transliterations are quite common. scope_creep (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the above. It seems that either the subject or someone else with the same name has registered domain names with this spelling of their name, so all the evidence points to this not being "buggering about". Thryduulf (talk) 05:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ubisoft studio redirects with only list entries[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all. Thryduulf (talk) 12:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Target holds no information on the given subject, except for a list entry. Lordtobi () 08:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFD#D2, confusing. There is nothing about Ubisoft Casablanca. Si Trew (talk) 08:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Onyx Engine[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 2#Onyx Engine

Ubidays[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Thryduulf (talk) 12:59, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Target holds no information on the given subject. Lordtobi () 08:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Presumably internal company slang for a day off or whatever, not encylopaedic even if we had information on it. Si Trew (talk) 08:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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If --[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) I suppose this is all right and we have consensus, nearly, that changing an em dash to two hyphens is fine. I am not looking for evidence in print etc, I just trying to establish consensus, that these eubot ones with em dashes replaced by hyphens (as "{{R from title without diacritics}}", of course) are all right? Weak keep on my part. Si Trew (talk) 08:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you notice, there is a space in the R that there isn't in the target title. I don't think that makes any difference. Si Trew (talk) 08:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Most cases of – to -- are probably fine. Target is unlikely to be moved, so it's also WP:CHEAP. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Plausible and harmless. Change the R cat template if it is incorrect. Thryduulf (talk) 05:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Laszlo Koeteles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) not Germanic but Hungarian Si Trew (talk) 08:10, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is not OK. Laszlo is "lesley", roughly. To then change someone's surname is a but absurd. It is not OK. Si Trew (talk) 17:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The consensus as far as we have so far is to keep Swedish and German ones and to throw out things that are not Germanic language. This is Hungarian language. You can't just stick dots on the top or take them out and say oh that is all right. Usual Eubot WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Still;l see no evidence of this name being used. Si Trew (talk) 17:18, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Considering that Hungary was ruled by Germans for centuries, I'm inclined to keep these transliterations if the transliteration gets use, which this one does, per the cases in the link above. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the spelling "Laszlo Koeteles" is in widespread use for this person. Thryduulf (talk) 05:14, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Januaria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 01:17, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot). Hmmm. Well, since we have January and so on, and it is called "Januaria" in several languages, I am not sure this is the best target for it. No doubt a keep or retarget, but to where? Si Trew (talk) 08:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How do you propse to hatnote a redirect? Si Trew (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Added redirect for the month. If there's a better hatnote notation, go for it. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! This was clearly what was meant by "hatnote per nom". ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • technical withdraw by nom. User:AngusWOOF has sorted this one out. It can go keep, I think, technnicaly. owww my tilde is missin SimonTrew 23:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ortakoey, Corum[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Evidence of usage has been found. -- Tavix (talk) 00:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 08:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That search brings me up Lonely Planet on Google Books. Try again. WP:RS please. Si Trew (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And Lonely Planet is a major travel guide publisher. Other non-Lonely Planet hits exist too from that same search (e.g. Sotheby's Art Auction [14]). ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Patar knight. It matters only that the spelling is used, uses don't have to be in reliable sources. The point of redirects like this is so that people can find the article, which is an entirely different matter to the content of the article. Thryduulf (talk) 05:16, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Choerten[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not Germanic. Not given at target, which is about Buddhist monks/nuns in Japan. Really not sure how it managed this, but we have (I was counting quickly) about four thousand redirects to this target... Si Trew (talk) 08:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That is a ridiculous number of redirects to one target. Not by Eubot, this is the first time I have found one to here by Eubot. Seven or eight, is fine, but about four thousand is probably something that we should do something about. I clicked on 500 each page and I got to eight or 9, so I might be off by a bit, but it will be around 4000. Si Trew (talk) 08:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Mea culpa, I think Wikipedia search gave me the things that link to it, not the redirects. There are about a dozen. My fault. This should not be one of them. Si Trew (talk) 08:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. In use. Shockingly, German archaeologists (of which there are many) like to use familiar transliterations when writing in English. [15] ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Straight Speedily keep. I get differnet search results from what Patar Knight gets. But I take it on trust on this one. Si Trew (talk) 17:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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C. O. Mueller[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:54, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) I can see how it got from here to there, (presumably someone has written "Carl" instead of "Karl" at some point), but the article does not have this, WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. I did some WP:BEFORE and a basic search gives me car companies in Hungary. I can't see how someone might possibly search for it this way, by hook or crook, and if they did they might get a WP:SURPRISE. We have Mueller Co. for example, so I am just not sure on this one. Si Trew (talk) 07:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Both Carl Ottfried Muller and C.O. Muller were used, and this is a valid transliteration. [16] ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • All right. All I get is a Google Books search. I guess Patar Knight has done his homework. Speedily keep. Si Trew (talk) 17:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Reopen please.. The only link provided is to a google books search not to actually it being in use. That is running around in circles. Reopen. Si Trew (talk) 23:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not discussed, Redirects stay open for "about seven days", the only link provided is to a Gbooks search. Si Trew (talk) 23:33, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Literally all the hits on the first page except four explicitly mention how either Carl Ottfried Muller or C.O. Muller were used. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andres ond[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Donald Duck#Nordic countries per WP:SNOW. I am also undeleting Andrés önd per the discussion. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) um.... I thought In English Donald Duck was called Donald Duck, not Andres ond. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Again, the lede has this in various languages, no problem with that, but he is not called "Andres ond" in English. Si Trew (talk) 07:50, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think we have Andres onde too by Eubot. Somewhere on my list. Si Trew (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am out on that one, but there are a few more. Si Trew (talk) 20:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is not a reliable source, that is a scrape by a lazy sub editor. That, I will bet you all lombard-street to a China orange, has been scraped from Wikipedia. 23:34, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Refine per Patar knight, this is mentioned in the article with diacritics and so the version without is also a fine redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine per Patar knight and Thryduulf, and undelete Andrés önd, which clearly should also point there if this does. Sideways713 (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine per everyone else, and undeletion per Sideways713 is apparently obvious too. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Impact de Montreal[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 01:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) another kinda cross-translation one. The target obviously is in English, and this has been back-translated by the bot. There's nothing wrong with it as such, but since we have Montreal Impact and Montréal Impact and so forth, because this is a bot translation, I think this should go. This clutters Wikipedia, but more, things like google translate use wikipedia for their corpus, and this just clutters that with meaningless jibberish. Si Trew (talk) 07:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, there is no doubt that that is their name in French. But this is the English Wikipedia and I doubted English-speakers would search this way. But User:Ivanvector is the expert really on this, at the canuck, so Keep and withdrawn by nom, me. Si Trew (talk) 20:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well the RFD template above allows you to look at the page views pretty easily. This one has gotten 165 hits since July 1, 2015. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 00:10, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) I can see the transliteration, but I think this is very unlikely to an English speaking audience, considering the target title is already a transliteration. Delete Si Trew (talk) 07:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. This does not appear to be used. Thryduulf (talk) 05:19, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Koelcse[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 11:14, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

()eubot) not germanic but Hungarian Si Trew (talk) 07:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And where do you thing the "FBIS Daily Report" scrapes its news from?" Not a reliable source. Si Trew (talk) 20:18, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you're implying. This report was produced in 1990 by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, which is a part of the CIA. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Patar knight. It also doesn't matter whether the source is reliable or not, just that it is used independently of Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 05:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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First Battle of Inoenue[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Closing in conjunction with Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 19#Second Battle of Inoenue. -- Tavix (talk) 00:09, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) not Germanic but Turkish. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 07:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another link to Google Book Search. Please quote your sources properly. Si Trew (talk) 20:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it is not "FBUS Daily Report" it is "Google Book Search". That is not enough to dissuade me. Si Trew (talk) 23:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Many of those sources refer to President Inönü (who named himself after his victory after the introduction of surnames by Ataturk), as "President Inoenue", showing that this is a valid transliteration. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:16, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is 'not a valid transliteration. That is the whole point. We have consensus that Germanic and Swedish ones are substituted, User:Patar knight, but this is not Germanic but Turkish. What eubot did in its mindless way was to transliterate any sodding thing with an umlaut assuming it was German, so we get "Inoenue" instead of what you write. You just can't do that, you can't. It makes a mockery of this encyclopaedia. I am happy to keep {{R from other language}} and {{R from geo}} and so on, but what we are doing here is misleading people. You and I both want to make this encylopaedia better, and I thank you for it. But on this one, you're wrong. Si Trew (talk) 09:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To fill you in, I can speak Hungarian, English, French, a bit of Spanish, a bit of Latin, some ancient Greek not the new stuff, and a few odds and sods besides. Sometimes I know what I am talking about. I don't know Turkish at all but I know that is not a bloody Germanic umlaut that eubot has substituted in there. Si Trew (talk) 09:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Suehbaataryn Yanjmaa[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 00:10, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not Germanic but Mongolian. WP:RFD#D5 as usual. Si Trew (talk) 07:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Koelsch (beer)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 11:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) I suppose this is all right, Germanic and stuff, but with the English (beer) disambiguation at the back, it does make it a bit nonsense. Weak Delete. Si Trew (talk) 07:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Valid transliteration. Parenthetical disambiguators are generally in English on this Wikipedia for good reason. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Patar knight. Thryduulf (talk) 05:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I might actually type this when I don't have easy access to the ö. —Kusma (t·c) 06:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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JZ series 664[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy retarget to JŽ 664 locomotive. -- Tavix (talk) 17:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) no idea, not in article. WP:RFD#D2 confusing. Si Trew (talk) 00:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

and before anyone else says WP:BEFORE or WP:RS or whatever, why do you think we are building an encylopaedia as a collaborative project. If we have nothing to say, we should say it. Si Trew (talk) 00:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@User Patar Knight: I do thousands of these each day, to sift through the crap Eubot made. I do not have time to boldly retarget, we do not have a WP:X1 consession. I just sift, say that is OK, that is a bit iffy, that needs delete. (List 16 os already at Miscellany for Deletion). That is what I do each day. We'll be there in about a month. The Neelix redirects, we got through in about three months, with that concession. Si Trew (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Retkoezberencs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 00:06, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot). Not Germanic but Hungarian. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 00:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can see from Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Eubot_3#.3DS this bot was approved for a trial of ten edits. Too late now, but I have asked and asked again, and this bot has never had approval for a run. A trial run, yes. Si Trew (talk) 13:56, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Arloev[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:55, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot). On the whole consensus is to keep Swedish ones, but this is I think a bit on the cusp, for helping people to search. Not sure. Si Trew (talk) 00:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep' and withdrawn as useful. Si Trew (talk) 16:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Huerriyet[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 11:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another turkik turkik from eubot. WP:RHD#D5 delete, nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I presume you don't speak any Hungarian. This is bloody nonsense. Never mind. Si Trew (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's Turkish, and given the large number of Turks living in Germany, it's not surprising that German transliterations for umlauts get used on Turkish words occasionally. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:08, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
NO, I don't think we can do that. Turks in Germany would not suddenly chuck in a "ue" for a "U umlaut" in their native language., and then back-form it to "Huerriyet", That is just WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. 13:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
User:Champion's list twelve has gone too. Yay!
  • Keep gets plenty of uses independent of Wikipedia. Most prominently, but far from exclusively, in the captions of stock photos and the sources that include such photos. Such uses are very visible and likely to lead to people searching for information using that spelling. Thryduulf (talk) 05:32, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Koroesi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist 06:19, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot). Koeresi is not a Hungarian surname, the target is a surname page. The lede tells you some of them, but this ain't one of them, this is a back-formation by eubot. Delete, WP:RFD#D5] nonsense Si Trew (talk) 00:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You ever lived in Hungary? Ever seen that surname? You can just not do it that way. Let me explain. The "y" at the end is suspicious enough because only used by Hungarian nobles who hang on to their old surnames. Then to make a back-formation from a bot that assumes that an accent in the middle is Germanic whent isn't, is nonsense. The link you gave is to Google Books search and is no use to me at all. I need proper WP:RS that this is used. Si Trew (talk) 17:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the hits in my link very clearly refer to people of Hungarian descent using this transliteration. [23], [24], etc. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:13, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I get different hits from you. I think you need proper WP:RS to substantiate your position. For example, near where I live there is a street called Wesselenyi utca. Now Wesseleny (not sure if we have it) is an old Hungarian noble name. The I just means "named after", "Mac", "O'" whatever (roughly). In this case what you have done is taken Koeresi which already has that "mac" on it, taken it off, and stuck a Y at the end of it, and then Germanised it. It's just too far out, I think. Si Trew (talk) 14:04, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Patar knight's findings. What matters is uses demonstrating usefulness as a search term, not reliable sources verifying information in the article. Thryduulf (talk) 05:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hinzert-Poelert[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:55, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That seems very unlikely to me, the redirect Si Trew (talk) 00:08, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Junter[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 17:55, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Basically WP:XY. If people plausibly mistyped they may have thought of a Junta or a Jumper or many other things. I don't think without the diacritics they would automatically be thinking of the mascot of a german football club. Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 00:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep and withdrawn by nom (me). Si Trew (talk) 16:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Woert[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 01:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Well, Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 00:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. "Eubot" isn't a reason for deletion. This is a German place, thus the redirect is the proper way to transliterate the umlaut. -- Tavix (talk) 01:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Tavix. Valid German transliteration into English. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is a valid reason for thinking what are people are searching for when they type this. They might want wort or some such. I think this is an WP:XY case. Si Trew (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I think Si has a point regarding possible title confusion, but in this case it does seem to be a common transliteration and thus more likely intended to this target. For example, [25]. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I know "Eubot" is not a reson for deletion, I list it that way for brevity. I am about the only person here who actually bothers to list a reason for deletion. Nobody else does. Si Trew (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Withdrawn as Keep by me the nom. Si Trew (talk) 20:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Joseph McColgan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 00:04, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, name no longer on target. But also see Talk:Ballymote and User_talk:BDD#Sophia McColgan Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Subject of redirected title is not mentioned in the target article. So, per WP:EASTEREGG, a reader will undoubtedly be confused as to why they ended-up where they ended-up. RFD #5 (redirect makes no sense) and RFD #10 (target article contains no information on the subject) also apply. WP:PERP and related NN criteria also apply to subject of redirect title. Redirect is orphaned. Guliolopez (talk) 12:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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